What are Belle and Wise hiding? (Zenless Zone Zero 1.4 Lore, Story, Recap)

[@zellrang]

what if the "real villain" is them, the academy was attacked because they're trying to get these 2, and when armed attackers almost got them, something happened to the teacher and the siblings triggered the hollow

[@Hhhh22222-w]

The hollow is much older than them though, but yeah the academy from where they were from and their teacher is probably related to the hollow.

[@biowbe4522]

@@Hhhh22222-w OP might have been talking about the hollow that took Eridu, not the first hollow ever

[@silverhawkscape2677]

​@@Hhhh22222-wI think he ment making the hollow worst

[@MGS-lore-enthusiast]

​@@Hhhh22222-w it isn't, the hollow disaster was 11 years ago in game, the siblings are older than 11 years

[@deadlystalker7483]

You might be on to something

[@ordo3297]

After hearing Bringer's line about Belle and Wise's search as a fantasy, I've been interpreting the ost track "60% fantasy" a bit differently. Wherever the story goes, I'll be waiting with bated breath for the answer.

[@rexex345]

Its worth noting, at no point are they said to have low aether capacity, rather in chapter 4 billy states they have a special condition that makes them unable to stay in hollows long. Considering that whatever it is made them flatline from just partial corruption, yeah something is up.

[@nathanpapp432]

The real question is, "What is Nicole hiding?" I think she just as sus as the twins. Connected to literally everybody, was in possession of Fairy and her weapon is a literal black hole generator in a suitcase.

[@theglobalwarming6081]

True

[@saahil0855]

She is Granny Welt of ZZZ...!!!

[@xemnasxiii3992]

Tbh she wasn't in possession of fairy, she was given a mission to steal a strong box from the red fang gang without any other information, one of her character trailer shows that too

[@nathanpapp432]

@@xemnasxiii3992 So she says... She was still in posession of it.

[@Selaziam]

Nicole is the most detailed in terms of backstory, she wants to help people, that's it. She had Fairy because someone gave her the task to steal it. She gets connections because of her job. But yeah the black hole suitcase I don't know.

[@plvto1]

maybe they're PROGENITOR GODS HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS-

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

pluto when did u get here

[@plvto1]

​@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i was avoiding your channel for a bit cause i didnt want any spoilers is all, but im back baby

[@Aman_Mondal]

Fun fact, the current plot line of Zenless Zone Zero feels oddly similar to Fire Force. I have a theory that Belle and Wise aren't humans at all but rather creatures who were born with in the Hollow and learned to shape like humans and showed interests in humans which is why Wise has so much appreciation for old technology, this theory wouldn't work since Belle went unconscious within the Hollow with Miyabi but what if they themselves don't know about the truth of their origin, or what if their teacher has manipulated their memories after finding them and white she raised them. I mean this is Mihoyo we are talking about the plot could go anywhere 😂

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

im interested in the prospect the two are something more, but the only evidence i have is beyond circumstantial and isnt really evidence, but helios academy being behind 3 SETS OF SECURITY GATES, is really odd to me.

[@fuckingtiredloll]

@@Aman_Mondal that would be a nice twist, although if this theory was technically true, the fainting would only allude to it rather than dismiss it, their fainting could be them starting to regress, they seem to have the same symptoms as Asaba if he stays in the hollow so idk

[@Aman_Mondal]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Whatever the next chapter of ZZZ will reveal will point to the nearest options. I have a feeling that they are either not human or they kids who are the only survivors of some form of experiment with Hollow powers, since you know Bringer was yapping about the lord refining him and what not also the Elixer, I have a feeling that ZZZ is taking heavy inspirations from anime such as Blue Exorcist and Fire Force, both of those stories have many similarities with ZZZ and Hoyo being Absolute Otakus would make sense..

[@billyperez8309]

Interesting theory, however there is one problem. At the start of the game when you play as Anby, she will encounter Billy who she thought was an Ethereal in disguise. She even talked about how an Ethereal disguised itself as a human and left the hollow. Then Billy countered that the disguised ethereal didn’t survive that long after that. This could mean that ethereals could not survive outside of the hollow similar to how a fish cannot survive out of water. If the siblings were ethereals that had taken human form, there would be no way that they could have survive that long. Now one could argue that the siblings might be human ethereal hybrid. But even if that were the case, then how the siblings are still able to suffer from the negative effects of ether energy? While the theory sounds interesting, I’m wouldn’t count on it to be true.

[@NamKyo1]

I thought the same bro. However, W and B, in my opinion, could be cloned from the genetic code of ancient people (maybe from HI3 lol, just kidding). Or they were implanted with some special technology that Carole Arna discovered. Up to now, only the 2 siblings possess special abilities such as connecting directly to the HDD, connecting with Bangboo to penetrate the rift indirectly without harming the body, unlike other Proxies, they have a very high chance of dying. Phatheon became a legend maybe because they are the only ones still alive lmao 😂 In addition, Proxy could just be a title, and the real name for those who possess abilities like W n B, could be revealed soon?

[@blackmark2899]

When Bringer said to "revel in the fantasy of trying to find the real villain" that got me thinking there are two possibilities. Either Arna really DID cause the Hollow Disaster and then buggered off via the White Hand either because she knew she'd be taking the entire fall for it and/or she had completed a long standing mission or there was no real cause of the Hollow Disaster and the disaster gave Bringer and Sarah's organization the opportunity to capture Arna because they needed her.

[@RenOnPhobos]

with the themes of christianity we have in zzz, what if the reason why the belle and wise' eyes have been affected by the abilities of the creator is because they resemble this world's version of the anti-christ? we have old themes of sacrifice which is associated with devil worship. Their proxy name is that of a previous god. And Bringer attacks them in the NAME of the creator. I'm not sure if this is enough proof but I do believe it's something noteworthy

[@phaseaken]

Intergalactic reach

[@MfwPrivate]

Sacrifice Bringer is quite literally the Jesus Christ of the Creator: man reborn to be the prophet and guidance for the literal "Hand of God (or of the Creator)" So yeah, the real villain probably refers to Carol Arna and, by extension, B&W being some sort of Anti-Christ

[@Spaxder2]

​@@phaseaken I dont belive it myself, but is not that much of a reach, asian games love putting christian symbolism in their games

[@winnie7668]

Some of the stuff i noticed from that cutscene with Bringer: A) Bringer is surprised after the explosion. Why? Is it because the siblings weren't injured?? I remembered watching/reading a theory saying that Bringer was waiting for someone or something to show up after the explosion, but when they/it didnt, hes like 'so be it.' And offs himself. B) why is reality glitching around the proxies? Iirc first time this is happening when their so called 'eyes' actually 'hurt'. Their eyes have hurt before, once with the previous sacrifice and iirc when they had a vision of the future after fairy took over the hdd C) the proxies aren't the only ones who can mind sync with their Bangboo... atleast not until 1.3. Astra Yao uses a Bangboo to go ahead and save her friend. So the tech is still experimental and top secret.

[@biowbe4522]

To add for Astra Yao point, during the event it was said the tech was still very much in experimental phase, having somekind of cooldown time, unlike Proxies HDD. So not only the tech were still experimental even though its developed by the government (I think?) our HDD are more flesh out and ahead of the current tech

[@kuroblakka]

What if what Bringer was actually implying is that the "real villain" is actually Wise and Belle

[@downhill18]

Maybe we'll end up getting some answers or atleast cules in some random event before Season 2, same way how we found out TOPS has Bangboo deep-sync tech in the Snap event or how they revealed who the antagonist faction is : The Order, in the computer virus event

[@ErisCalamitasButFR]

the computer virus event only confirmed that The Order was our antagonist faction, we've known essentially since 1.0 thanks to the prophecy quest

[@cowboydevil5993]

All gacha games are hitting peak rn… wuwa.. genshin , Hsr, and now zzz.. Gacha people are eating good ..

[@Starry-kun]

Yeah 😁

[@MfwPrivate]

I would like to point out that Sacrifices are actually, supposedly, the "eyes" of the creator, his way of interacting with the world. We know this, because the hand existed before Bringer even mutated and was what "refined" Bringer, implying that the hand is actually the Creator's. What Sacrifices simply do is redirect its Destructive power onto whoever they want, and its Creative power into whatever they desire (like the replica Tailless Bringer created). Essentially, Sacrifices "sacrifice" their own humanity to become guides and prophets of the Creator.

[@JaxElectroSaiyan]

Belle's arms when she runs looks like she has inflatable tube arms lol It's cute tho

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Yeah cause girls have extra layers of fat under the skin than men

[@Zeis]

Nah dude, we had no idea they had ocular implants for ages - that is brand new information that was dropped this patch, and then repeated over and over again in this story. Which felt really weird to me, like the writers saying "here, look! That's why their eyes glow! It's an implant! AN IMPLANT! Did you notice that I called it an implant yet?". As far as I can remember, it was only ever implied that there was something going on with their eyes (implant or otherwise), but it was never EXPLICITLY called an "implant" up until now - they kept it vague.The eyes are also not what allows them to communicate, Belle/Wise said they had a "bio comms module" that was still broken when they tried to contact the outside world. My theory still remains that Belle and Wise are not human: They could be some sort of prototype intelligent construct, perhaps the next generation of intelligent constructs that doesn't need charging ports like Qingyi and Billy, but can fully rely on their internal bio reactors (which Qingyi has well, though more rudimentary). Since their internals are likely much more sophisticated and delicate, Ether corruption could wreak havoc, that's why they can't stand in the Hollows for long. This would also explain how Belle/Wise were able to literally just shake off dying from cardiac arrest and suffering from ether corruption without ever going to the hospital or seeing a doctor, and springing back into action immediately after. They also never mention any family or parents, or their childhood. Only that they 'essentially' grew up at Helios Academy. Helios Academy created the HDD and the custom/advanced Bangboo Eous (greek goddess of dawn), and likely many other incredible technologies. I wouldn't be surprised if Belle/Wise are responsible for the Hollow Zero disaster, unbeknownst to them, much like Phaethon in the old greek tale of Phaethon. The son of the sun god Helios. Who desired to have his parentage confirmed. Who tried to ride his fathers chariot across the sky, pulled by four horses he couldn't control (like the 4 AIs we have in the game; Fairy, Youkai, Jinni, Ghost. Belle/Wise have difficulty controlling just Fairy). He crashed all over the place, his crashes resulting in the creation of snowy wastelands and deserts. Eventually, Zeus struck him down with a lightning bolt and killed him. His dead body falls into the river Eridanus. I also find it fascinating that the area around their eyes after the explosion had the same glitch effect going on as when The Sacrifice and Bringers hand died. As if their eyes killed the explosion.

[@iamnotKMR]

Wise and Belle had the implant when they were hacked and lost the Phaethon inter-knot account during the cunning hares story. You could see their eyes glowing

[@jorb5994]

this is prob the theory i enjoy the most. i did not consider looking into the history of the names but that fits really well

[@Zeis]

@@iamnotKMR Yes, but they weren't called implants then if I remember correctly. It was just never explained why their eyes glowed. Same when they used the HDD to take over Qingyi in a Hollow, we saw their eyes glow again, but got no explanation for why. This patch is the first time (again, if I remember correctly) that they explicitly said they have ocular implants.

[@NamKyo1]

Good one bro! The most logical theory I found so far. Only the part they're IC, I'd add some points that if you guys read Blame!, humanity can store memories on AI databases and use replicable bio-electrical bodies to replace normal human biological bodies. As long as memories are stored, humans can live indefinitely by connecting memory data to new bodies without worrying about aging.

[@Zeis]

@@NamKyo1 Thanks! That's kind of sort of what I assume they are and what I meant by them being the next version/evolution of an intelligent construct. Basically just artificial bodies.

[@_Choco_]

1:00 as someone who is trying to get into animating, I completely agree 😅

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

gl bro. actual monk mental to try and perfect the craft

[@RazeluxeMeitzen7]

What if Belle and Wise is actually some kind of humanoid bangboo, and the real belle and wise is actually still living in Hollow Zero, in Helios Academy LAB in some kind of tubes 😂 They are not corrupted because they are entity made from ether that Carole Arna create

[@lowesgameing2003]

THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS.. *Posts a picture of the fingers from elden ring*

[@mega2009man]

I don't know. The way he said it. Like he was mocking them for not knowing the truth. As if they should know. I think the siblings are responsible, indirectly if not the actual cause. Besides, they were there right, how'd they get out of Hollow Zero seeing how they can barely handle Companion Hollows?

[@jeremiasnicolasbustos5001]

Maybe one of them, has the fault, but other don't know about that, and try to fix the mistake, to find they teacher. Imagine, that the final BOSS it's with your sibling and no they teacher. Put an conflic between siblings, make more emotional the story.

[@mega2009man]

@jeremiasnicolasbustos5001 Unless they used to be a single person 🫢🤭 that missing Void Hunter is very suspicious

[@jeremiasnicolasbustos5001]

@@mega2009man what? I don't follow

[@mega2009man]

@@jeremiasnicolasbustos5001 Old crackpot theory. The most mysterious and anonymous Void Hunter goes deep into Hollow Zero and is never seen again. One who also went to the academy

[@F0xdash]

...Noboddy is talking about Fairy, huh? i think Fairy is the most misterious entity!

[@bang-naim]

Everyone seems to overlook the fact that Fairy's symbol is literally Belle's and Wise's blue eyes

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@bang-naim their eyes are inspired from the eye of Fatima talisman 🧿 from Turkiye, it's for warding off evil etc

[@TinkRomero]

Ok, I’m just throwing out this idea … Wise and Belle aren’t their actual names. Considering how targeted Carole was during the Hollow Disaster, and Bringer’s immediate action of attempting to blow up Carole’s students … Carole Arna was hunted down. Nothing new with this realization, however it is Eous who may point us in an interesting direction … Belle and Wise are ALIENS!!!! So, it’s been discussed that Eous is a very clear connection to the Greek Goddess of Dawn, Eos. And that’s kind of where most similarities end, it’s very interesting to learn of Eos having a brother Helios, God of the Sun, and a sister Selene, Goddess of the Moon. Obviously we connect Helios to Helios Academy, and we connect Selene to … nothing? Looking more into the connections between the Moon and ZZZ, we can immediately see that there is some relevance since the Moon in ZZZ is nearly overtaken by Hollows as well, and we have heard absolutely nothing on how this even occurred. Something is happening on the Moon, and who knows when that will become relevant. The reason why I’m pointing such significance towards Selene right now is because there is a significant male equivalent for Selene … their name is Men … yes. So yeah, Belle’s name is Selene, and Wise’s name is Men. These Twins came from the Moon, and I have absolutely no proof for this idea! :D please have mercy on me, there’s just extremely little amounts of lore about the siblings in the game, significant lore has only JUST begun appearing. Oh, but please, have no mercy on my theory, if you can immediately debunk it, go right ahead, I wanna hear every little detail that I’ve missed XD

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Idk about aliens but the greek stuff yeah, but no they are humans just with implants, it's mentioned several times in their story

[@ungamer6241]

0:38 im sorry your daughter was born sad and sick

[@Vipera217]

i was ready to call it a day, but the scene where their eyes glow behind the smoke sent chills down my spine.. im binging lore stuff now

[@whothewu]

1:52 realizing that Zhu Yuan and Qingyi did not seem to notice the Random Play Staff patch on Eous in chapter 2.

[@roseofbones]

nothing brings me more joy in life than dawit giggling at his own jokes 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Zarozian]

Am so happy bro is doing ZZZ lore at last

[@angpham941]

if Belle and Wise are not true humans, I think they might be some form of Neo-Human or Etheral hybrid or sth because if they are something too otherworldly, the medical and perceptive personnels would know immediately like how Miyabi and Qingyi always knew us being fishy

[@yadakakadu]

Ethereal hybrid is unlikely, as they literally have a cardiac arrest from being in a hollow. Genetic engineering to be more compatible with the HDD tech is more likely. So their bodies would not reject the implants and interfacing would cause less strain.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

They are human, just with implants, they are like androids in a way, it's part of their academy training, they were trained to be able to navigate the hollow, Fairy as well from that section of the HIA

[@yadakakadu]

@@Hhhh22222-w Androids are not human. It literally means man shaped robot. Billy is an android. What you are thinking of (I assume) is cyborgs. Which they technically are, because of the implants. For further understanding, guess what a gynoid is and who is one from the playable agent roster.

[@nettedteeth]

Yippee!

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

yipper

[@adityabutimdumb]

Yippee! Yipper

[@RzVishal]

As someone who uninstalled zzz on 1.0 Miyabi got me into her gameplay and lore😂🎉

[@Zarozian]

Yesssss

[@ossmboy7914]

Thanks for covering my favourite game❤❤❤

[@GPSiu]

Congratulations on the k-...

[@dalhaval283]

4:08 Astra Yao can also do that with Snap the bangboo tho shes not a proxy, also Astra's group Stars of Lyra, makes you think of the Lady Sunbringer, creator of bangboos, makes you wonder bout the connection

[@WhymeObie]

BRO IT WAS INSANE THE NEW QUEST P E A K

[@thegamingfiend5443]

my guess is they are something like a sacrifice like bringer and the one in the mounument but differant in a way

[@KahlevN]

Just a heads up, this video popped into my feed, not familiar with you or your content. But was interested in the title. But got bored by the whole first minute just yammering about whatever is going on in your life and backed out. You might want to make bespoke videos like that for your dedicated community to update them on what's going on with you, and leave them out of videos that might draw in viewers unfamiliar/uninterested in those details. It's probably hurting you re: the algorithm as well. Or maybe put them at the end, and not at the beginning of what might be a new viewer's first exposure to you.

[@colamanodoy4775]

All “the eyes” things remind me of fairy Both the one on bringer, and their glowing eyes

[@phaseaken]

The teacher is definitely dead, after all bringer said something like “it’s finally done” we he thought he killed wise and bell (the students of the guilty)

[@An1metrev1n]

You know when fairy got hacked, there's only one of the 4 AI who could do that. The hacking one i bet did it

[@elisabethnunez4569]

I'm hoping they have battle forms

[@Archetype_Angel]

0:37 may she be born happy and healthy.

[@AruLily]

it's almost as if he said they don't remember but they did it themselves, they might not know everything about their implants

[@516callersurge4]

Hopefully ur enjoying the story! Zzz has built this 1.4 moment and its ending was so good. Glad if ur on for the ZZZ ride!

[@MeryKeit]

9 min of yapping, and bro said NOTHING 😂 For those of you who want to actually find some interesting theories look through the comments - that’s where people are cooking fr ☕️

[@crammothy]

“Call me MAPPA” 💀

[@StarMechV]

I doubt the story would go to such lengths to just make it so Carole did it or the siblings are the culprits. My guess of why Bringer calls their misson a fantasy is because it isnt as simple as just "a bad guy". We are possibly desling with a whole cult of Hollow worshiping whackos if some of the events have hinted at, some may be as ingraved in New eridu as being part of TOPS. These folk may no see this Creator as just some villain like Belle and Wise so Bringer mocls their attempt as fribolous. Its like him going "Sure little puppes, go fight chuthulu like if he were some mustache twirling villain in a silly film" Or maybe Carole while not intentional was pushed or accidentally brought these vreator into happening so its more of being a villain by association

[@Krillos]

How tragically ironic would it be if this “real villain” Bringer was talking about was Carole all along, emphasizing that Belle and Wise won’t find the mastermind as long as they keep having this “fantasy” of Carole being innocent in all of this.

[@Chareddragon]

I have so much backlog in ZZZ

[@Ahammedf9091]

I think belle and Wise is the main reason for the Hallow zero and their teacher took the blame for them 🤔

[@jeremiasnicolasbustos5001]

Or at least, one of them, and other don't know about that.

[@StrongestDebunker]

Im pretty sure people just dont pay attention at the story... I mean, lol it is LITERALLY so obvious They are indeed humans and nothing more than that. But they are incredibly talented and smart with technology, both proxies could fix Miyabi's blade and also develop EPEN They just went to confront Bringer with preparation and used something to defend themselves from the explosion

[@marcusbullock2753]

They're hiding that they're tank players.

[@muhdhakim2785]

What is Rhinedottir doing in ZZZ ? Back to her crazy experiment again and then just gone ? Dang give my twin and Albedo a rest.

[@KefkaVI]

Feel really bad, sorry to hear that about your daughter. :(

[@harris3boyz]

Will TV Mode Return in Story in Future Updates?

[@harris3boyz]

Will Solider 11 Appear in Story Updates?

[@harris3boyz]

Will OC Characters from Fanfictions appear in Future Updates?

[@robinranmay]

i really wanna play the game again to play the story myself, but it keeps crashing when i try to log in, i play on mobile because i'm more comfortable playing on my phone but a pc is definitely better for this game

[@Hhhh22222-w]

You can try using cloud gaming like GeForce now if it has zzz

[@oozin9025]

The implants are probably not standalone. They are prob just a part of some bigger tech inside of belle n wise

[@nihili4196]

Bringer's insinuation is too vague, at least in English to settle for one clear thing. It might as well suggest that their search for real villain is meaningless, because there was none, and either things spiraled out of everyone's control due to multiple different factors beyond single person's control, or that hollow apeared naturally for some reason, and Carol either knew something and tried to prevent it, or had no idea and was made a scapegoat for natural disaster.

[@crashbug4343]

The new hoyo trifecta 😂

[@max188]

The minute of yapping was enough to make me quit the video early

[@Bolu467]

Day 24 of asking for a razor lore video

[@winnie7668]

EARLYYYYYYYYY

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

winnie

[@winnie7668]

@DawitsLookingforEmilia Dawit

[@Jonathan-em8ld]

They could be cyborgs

[@Rnua779]

I’m here

[@ShadowKillerX]

Interesting

[@dekomavix3914]

I like your words funny man. Say more funny words.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

lol

[@Roihclem871]

Ayo

[@Abcxyz-ey9nn]

youre just yapping nonsense omfg

[@Sky_314]

I see you never seen a girl run before

[@IAmNotDiluc]

I dont pay attention to the zenless lore since i literally nap 99.9% of the time i play it but on an unrelated note MERRY EARLY PRIMORDIAL-MAS 🔥🫡

[@jamesarnoldbelardo3228]

Same everytime I play Genshin