What is The Herta hiding about Nous explained (Honkai Star Rail 2.7 Lore and Theory, Reaction)

[@NuriumAstrum]

"Okay Google, What is divinity?"

[@ZeHoovy2595]

I wish they'd add it as a dialogue option, and after choosing it it would be another false ending

[@Cheetozin]

😮😮😮

[@TravelerSaniar]

Divinity refers to the state or quality of being divine, which is often associated with gods or deities. In different religious and spiritual traditions, divinity is seen as a supreme power or force that transcends the ordinary human experience. This can encompass concepts like the divine nature of gods, the sacredness of certain rituals or objects, and the divine qualities within human beings or the universe. For example, in Christianity, divinity is often associated with God and the nature of Jesus Christ. In Hinduism, divinity can be seen in multiple gods and goddesses, each representing different aspects of the divine. In a more philosophical or metaphysical sense, divinity can also refer to the inherent sacredness or spiritual essence of the universe or life itself. The idea of divinity often evokes feelings of awe, reverence, and a sense of connection to something greater than oneself. It plays a crucial role in shaping beliefs, values, and practices across cultures and religions. If you’re curious about specific aspects or examples of divinity, I'd be happy to explore those further with you!

[@ZeHoovy2595]

@@TravelerSaniar the end of 3.0

[@Nyx_TheGodess]

@@TravelerSaniar you’re so annoying You clearly copy pasted that also, that does not work in this context Honkai star rail and genshin impact plays with the idea of divinity a lot and it is different from what we defy as divinity

[@zippytrippy3041]

8:50 Finally someone pointed it out! MF thinks he's gambling when all this time he's been backed by the triceratops of 100% winrate

[@umascariatuerich2014]

you betcha! If don't comply you are steamrolled three times, impaled by three horns and then looked down by three eyes

[@TravelerSaniar]

Dont you dare disrespect my king

[@MegaFederico01]

The fact that the triceratops is implied to be order makes it funnier. Bro literally has the LAW on his side and still thinks he gambling

[@bunnywifalaptop3684]

I just realized the connection between dice and major historical events in HSR Gold and Gears & Swarm Disaster both have us throwing dice to progress through the different stories and narratives Herta talking about how heroes journeys are just dice tosses the aeons made, and the dice in Swarm disaster literally changing depending on the path you take

[@yadakakadu]

In the simulation that was made by Herta. You are talking the connection between an in universe VR game UI and the turn of phrase used by the developer of said VR game.

[@bunnywifalaptop3684]

@yadakakadu Yes, and she uses that phrase as a descriptor, which could be the in game explanation of the dice

[@YindigoYangMonk]

Nous is a lucky fella... got gazed upon by THE Herta herself

[@nickter745thebold8]

THEY gazed upon THE Herta first, so…

[@YindigoYangMonk]

@@nickter745thebold8 ​ Let me introduce you to sarcasm. You'll get used to it 🙃

[@ZeHoovy2595]

who the f-

[@Tacit_helmet]

I don’t think they really give a damn who’s looking at em ngl

[@Truck-kun11]

I think it's pretty cool how everyone had to be evacuated from the station so Herta could talk to Nous since just being near the presence of an Eon should be enough to evaporate anyone who isn't an Emanator.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

It depends. Some Aeons like Fuli can be seen by Ordinary humans with no problem.

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

​@@silverhawkscape2677what ordinary humans saw Fuli?If you are talking about the Louis fleming Retire,Fuli disappeared too fast and only could be seen on the cameras that registred they

[@yadakakadu]

Then how does one become an emanator in the first place? IIRC you have to interact with an aeon to become one.

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

@@yadakakadu emanators are blessed It power thats it

[@yadakakadu]

@@rickelmehanwinckel2699 You have to interact with an aeon to become an emanator. If you sublimate before you can interact with said aeon, how do you become an emanator? And being seen is not enough, or the trailblazer would be a triple emanator by now.

[@hannahtgp9421]

Fun fact: the red glowing light is not nous eye that’s its side of its head. It’s real eyes are can be seen as two dots that look as eyes in simulated universe pic

[@burstlogic3457]

Theory: The PRIMORDIAL ONE is Ena The Order: in the Amphoreus trailer there is a bunch of symbolism and order of events that signify that they it was one of the civilizations that Ena created. And how it’s done sounds a lot like how the Heavenly Principles operate. Create separate god like beings that represent laws of the world and have them govern them (the Titans/ the Shades) then rule over them from on high while giving them prosperity. The law of the world Remus was trying to avoid is a law Ena canonically enforces. The rise and fall of nations. Then the planet as a whole fell because both something dark and evil seeped in and humanity’s own folly, as well as rogue gods. Then due to a giant event the over arcing order went quiet. Maybe The Primordial One as Ena is now part of Xipe Sounds entirely like Tyvat

[@istvancsanyi1344]

I feel like that might be a bit off since it seems a lot like the Twins might be from the same place the Primordial one is from or at least they are connected somehow, also there is this theory that talks about the new lore of the dragons sending "Void shuttles" out to space. Maybe the Primordial one arrived bc the dragons or "Vishaps" as an alien race, attack their planet and they came to take revenge and terraform their planet as a new beginning to their destroyed civilization. The twins planet is destroyed according to the xbox wings lore and the twins found Inteyvat flowers, well...in Teyvat. So Im guessing the Primordial one is the same race as the twins and their planet got conked off by the dragons, twins go travelling or went travelling before that fuck the timelines, and now they found the settlers of their home planet. This theory has holes as well so both could be true or false but I do like the Phanes is Ena theory but it feels a bit...belittling towards Genshin and so far they havent made Genshins lore less relevant even with all the Honkai connections.

[@burstlogic3457]

@ I see where you’re coming from. Your theory also gives me another reason to hate dragons.

[@SirZelean]

​@@istvancsanyi1344 I think I can bridge both of your theories. The creation of Teyvat feels more... mundane, for a lack of a better word. Aeons are way too OP, they are more like forces of nature than actual beings with biological function. Why do I say that? Because the way it's described that Phanes created Teyvat feels like a powerful person came, fought the dragons and created the world as they wanted. If it was Ena themself, I think she could probably just snap her fingers and get rid of the dragons and any future descenders xD BUT! I too think Ena fits way too well with things we see in Teyvat. For example, Penacony too has A LOT of connections with Teyvat, and Ena is involved too. What I propose is: The Primordial One isn't Ena herself - but one of her Emanators. They can be powerful enough to do that, while also being a living person.

[@rafaelramirezsalgado8980]

​​@@SirZeleanall good theories so here's mine: We know from the hi3 and hsr collab that their worlds are separare due to they are so far fron each other that not even the "Trailblaze" could reach them so no Eon rules over other worlds such as Hi3 or Teyvat. Now we kinda now that Qilipoth the preservation created the Great Wall which is suppose to separare HSR cosmos from a supposed nothingness or void. So why are deities from both worlds (HSR cosmos and Teyvat) so focused on shielding/ protecting from outer space? Theory is that as according to Gun girls Z, cosmic horros exist in the outer space so we can assume Eons & Celestia and other god like beings only seek to safeguard their territories from these horrors

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Imma read later, but all of them are great theories!

[@OOOBBSSS]

Why is Himeko voiced by Mickey Mouse?

[@dragonballMS]

It's the collab we deserved

[@Marbeary]

I spit my coffee out for this. Job well done

[@TravelerSaniar]

Because it's lore accurate (in my head canon, mickey is dead)

[@tigergirldw9103]

@@TravelerSaniarnever let you~ ahh mickey

[@YindigoYangMonk]

Not sure if it's mickey or Clockie... but i didn't heard any "TICK TOCK". So it might aswell be Mickey yeah...

[@deathsjb]

everyone out there making kingdom hearts references with The Herta's key, now you're turning Himeko into Mickey Mouse.

[@TheUnintelligentOne]

Again the Herta is THE BEST CHARECTER IN FICTION

[@aperson6562]

Pure fiction. perchance

[@Pre4xes_]

Nah, there’s someone better and almighty than herta. You simply lack the comprehension of the greatness of this almighty being

[@HELLOIAMMEHI]

@Pre4xes It’s hook😌

[@Pre4xes_]

@@HELLOIAMMEHI it's power is too great to comprehend. You'll never understand

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Perfect looks too!!!

[@shikinami-san]

Anyone else think Herta could be a member of the hexenzirkel

[@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk]

Do we know who ‘H’ is?

[@shikinami-san]

@@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk i believe herta may be the 8th member who hasnt been revealed yet in genshin.

[@TmanAcc4]

Wait, you're onto something. In Herta Space Station, she DID in fact have a wind glider as a curios. Does that mean....

[@yadakakadu]

Probably ex-member, 'cause she got bored. Or distracted.

[@haroonafridi231]

Or maybe tevyat is past according to HSR So maybe Herta hasn't yet joined it

[@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681]

Finally herta with chat gpt

[@theresaspiderr]

I like to believe that the "gods" they believe in are the Aeons without them knowing. Take Gatra Triclops, for instance, the game makes it pretty obvious that THEY are just Ena the Order, so the Titans on Ampohoreus are just that world's explanation of the Aeons.

[@integralfreak1296]

She's goin no where. She's comin home. I'm ready for her 💪

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Agreed, I have enough to get her guaranteed, then I will save for Castorice

[@communitygamer117]

The Nous that Zandar built probably doesn't look anything like Aeon Nous. Seeing as that Aeons don't exist in physical space and transcend reality. Their form is purely subjective. Realistically Aeons should be larger than a universe.

[@Golden-l4r]

Zander didn’t LITERALLY create an Aeon, the supercomputer ASCENDED into Aeonhood after discovering the mysteries of everything unknown and unknowable. The computer was simply tasked with discovering the mysteries of the universe and everything beyond. The computer made itself ascend Zander didn’t ascend Nous. People say Zander created Aeon Nous when all he did was contribute to Nous’s ascension.

[@pitaya_is_cool1408]

@@Golden-l4rthat sorta depends on perspective. He DID create an aeon in that he created something that went on to become an aeon due to his commands, but at the same time he never specifically had Nous set out for the goal of Aeonhood. I guess it depends on whether you think supercomputers truly have free will.

[@Golden-l4r]

@ Now that I think about it; it actually kinda makes sense considering Nous never gives solutions to questions asked by his Emanators. Nous only responds to a person’s question with another question or the person asking the question becomes more confused, in a sense. Nous was programmed with discovering the mysteries of the universe, not answering questions related to the mysteries of the universe.

[@yourlocalyanfei]

Herta will always be the best Eminator character in my opinion.

[@zozotlotsog9929]

What if the emanators claim to be gods themselves and manipulate everything or they too are unaware of their emanator status and claim to be Gods due to their ridiculous power?

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

that could be it

[@crammothy]

It’s cool that we saw an Aeon before 3.0 even. Not even 2 years into the game and we have already seen one. I’m impressed by how little time it took

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

meanwhile im waiting on fucjin anything from celestia 4 years later

[@crammothy]

@ at least we got Ronova speaking

[@marcusbullock2753]

Bro what if Nous sounds like the reapers in Mass effect.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

its been a while since i played mass effect holy

[@Emersonkid21]

THE HERTA new Ult : (I Am assuming control … of the time twirl.)

[@dorowoj4765]

Actually, the goddess from Aventurine's world could be Ena. His eyes are supposed to be a blessing from her and they somehow resemble eye of Ena from her splash art.

[@heilamwether8911]

Because of everything in the arc + the lack of the Eng VAs, I have lovingly dubbed this arc, “Honkai star rail: the schizo incident.” If we take everything from Sunday’s POV to be a psychedelic trip, that’s why Robin didn’t have a voice, and the stress of him joining the express is the reason why the trailblazer doesn’t hear Dan heng and Himeko’s Va’s. Also, it’s just funny as fuck to imagine that Sunday is tripping balls, and Robin is just there trying to comfort her brother before he leaves his home, and Pom Pom and March are just gaslighting us into believing that we “ALwaYs HaD A RoOm” when really they just felt sorry we didn’t have one now that it’s been like 2 months, and used a fake memory bubble to make as believe that, which is why Dan heng and Himeko doesn’t have Va’s in the memories. -the normal ones.- The only sane moments both had was during tingyun’s arc, allowing her to meet Yukong, and like loucha and Jingliu, a plan to get back at the gods, or in her case, phantylia. (It’s funny how they basically say that we never knew the actual Tingyun, since before Kafka, she had been gone, which tbh, was expecting that, but I kinda wished they went more into that, since it was Sunday that broke the silence, and now us or March, which is ironic, since technically we never truely knew Tingyun.) Also, funny how we just burned her shit thinking she was dead and now she’s back… XD So we and yukong do kinda have to explain that now 😅😅 All in all, decent arc, Sunday and wonweek talking like 15th century essays tho wasn’t on my bingo card, and the schizo in this arc truly is real. (Are we sure old argenti existed? Or was he always markiplier to begin with… XD ) Now, let’s see what amphoreous had in store.

[@rajaryan-fe1oy]

The openings to these are getting wilder by the day

[@astrea4231]

9:23 Not bro edging us T - T

[@laureldelaroche]

9:23 not that quick snip from the primordial one soundtrack 😭

[@Yuki_Ika7]

The Herta is visual perfection!!! Beautiful, i get why she is a narcissist now!

[@GolgothianSylex]

Will add: it's explicitly stated in HI3 that "God" just means "unifier of Authority". Anything possessing enough power is a God. But Aeons actually have much wider reach than other known Gods(not the Outer ones, because HG2 seems to be not canon to wider verse)

[@magisteriumemporium1411]

Thank you for providing your PoV on this matter.

[@BlackRoseThornEtna]

i'm pretty sure it was Asta saying their evacuating, also I'm pretty sure "this is only a minor ripple" refers to what's happening on the space station.

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

Blade rerun chances slowly increasing I can feel it

[@IAmNotDiluc]

Is amphoreus that ocean planet thing or am i tripping Edit: I AM ABSOLUTELY TRIPPING WHY DID MY BRAIN MAKE THIS UP

[@OgZz73]

When we voted on which planet to visit next they mentioned Lushaka the ocean planet alongside Amphoreus thats why you misremembered

[@IAmNotDiluc]

@ ohhh thank you 😭

[@djfrost7801]

4:43 those mirrors reminds me of the occurrences in su

[@electroneurons]

TRUE HERTA WILL COME HOME AS SHE IS PEAK AND PURE FICTION

[@Levasic2]

3:05 Mickey Mouse ahhh voice lmao

[@brendanparham8615]

I'm getting this feeling that were going to meet Nous Aeon of Erudition and end up fighting Nous Aeon of Erudition

[@YuaHaruna]

is that Clockie voicing Himeko?!

[@SirZelean]

Gaiathra Triceratops 🤣

[@JCeditzz]

The Herta sounds like a Harry Potter character. Great voice acting 🙂‍↕️

[@yuutousakaki]

Herta just ask chat GPT disguise as god 🤣

[@TravelerSaniar]

0:00 I JUST LOST MY DAAAAAAAAWWWG

[@lumithor9828]

You think Herta might be member of the Hexenzirkel? Definitely has the vibe of a witch, except sci-fi witch, I gues 😄 That would explain why they seem to be on a whole different level of power compared to everyone else in Teyvat. Perhaps Herta might be the "Godess of Creation" of Simulanka. You know, Simulanka - Simulated Universe..

[@hallucinationspider]

3:08 Michey is that you? 😂

[@justthatguy-yq2py]

Dawit mate, what is that goofy ahh laugh

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

🥹

[@justthatguy-yq2py]

​@DawitsLookingforEmilia id also really appreciate it if you made a part 2 of facts about cucumbers 🙏🙏 it was very educational

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

@ lmao

[@Pre4xes_]

Dawiterrr, Please upload a video about, THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

LMAO. soon unironically

[@Pre4xes_]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia pls make it tomorrow. I need my daily content of the PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS

[@TravelerSaniar]

ok

[@Rajiota]

3:05 Oh hey Clockie! It has been a while

[@marcusbullock2753]

Nous about to throw intellectual hands.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

oh ya?

[@zoebrennan799]

I was trying to sleep and then Mickey Mouse started talking. I was so confused.lol

[@GustavoJua15]

Belobog itself used to have its own gods according to the lore.

[@screamaskzxyers]

why in EN she has the same voice as the doll

[@marcusbullock2753]

Herta should have the minnie mouse voice

[@Odeofodium]

3:06 Mickey? Is that you?

[@ShineEdgateAshton14]

Magecraft

[@Aarkwrite]

Why is Himeko being voiced by Mickey Mouse

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i keep reading this but i dont hear it. am i drunk?

[@Aarkwrite]

@ maybe we hear it but you don’t? Like I know for sure I sound different to me than to other people 😂

[@shadowpriest2574]

8:28 Is that Barbara?

[@nettedteeth]

Yippee!

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

yipper

[@SlimyKris]

They Clockie to voice Himeko lets gooo

[@hiimbobbyo631]

Pretty sure it’s name is nous not nos lmao

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

eh u live and ya learn

[@yadakakadu]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia But you, specifically, don't.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

@@yadakakadu 🥹

[@9NASHY]

Mickey mouse himeko, Lisa is herta

[@GustavoJua15]

The Archons in Genshin are as useful as Nous

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

Don't say that to goat nous

[@Unknown-tt4nj]

Wow you’re so funny hahahahah

[@orlandocampbell6105]

❤❤❤❤

[@danieleccleston7928]

"Was Aventurine lucky because he was blessed by the gods or was Aventurine blessed by the gods because he was lucky?" Damn, also that sounds familiar.

[@rudrohasashi8210]

since when himiko is a mouse?

[@bongy-o1q]

X

[@An1metrev1n]

Haa haa O Boy!!!!

[@davidjohnson8273]

Someone's talking about you here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/marOc6eZrp58j9k ("Lore chat with Roozevelt! Ask us things!" @ 2:46:41)

[@davidjohnson8273]

I don't know if it's a good thing but the ladies seem to think you're very fast.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

nothing gets by the watchful eyes of david johnson

[@ShineEdgateAshton14]

She is a mage

[@Bolu467]

Day 19 of asking for a razor lore video

[@yadakakadu]

If you stopped giggling like a maniac, you could try thinking for 5 minutes, and realize that aeons are not gods by the classical definition. All of them are entities that ascended to be the embodiment of their respective paths. They do not even constitute a cohesive pantheon. And to disprove a possible theory of yours: the primordial one is not an aeon because you being it's simp does not count as a path.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

u applying our notion to what a god is seems counterproductive given in the universe that hsr is set in, everyone calls the aeons gods

[@yadakakadu]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia You can unironically call a box a god. That does not make it one. Especially if there are precedents of actual gods in the setting that are clearly separate mechanically different from aeons. Compare the mechanics and origin of Aventurine's blessing of luck and the mechanics and origins of aeons and emanators (and other pathstriders). I know it is difficult for you, so take your time actually considering.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

u completely missed the point of what i typed only to hit me with this masterclass of sentence: "Especially if there are precedents of actual gods in the setting that are clearly separate mechanically different from aeons." again, stop applying YOUR definition of what a god is to this fictitious universe, in which aeons are routinely called gods and accepted as such. You quite literally cannot find me on piece of evidence within game refuting the notion that aeons are gods, whereas i can find you multiple references calling aeons gods. this is not a hill worth dying on. To the point of aventurine and Gaiathara Triclops, she is one who is also held to a similar standard of divinity to that of the aeons, despite being completely separate from them as Sigonia is isolated from the rest of the universe. She appears to also have some form of divinity or power, given those she blesses, (like aventurine) in turn receive a boon of some kind; in his case, extreme luck. So what im proposing is that Herta is questioning how two such cases of "godly hood" can arise separate from another, by asking Nous "what is divinity"?

[@yadakakadu]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Let me use a simile: you are arguing that if two creatures look alike they are the same, while I'm arguing that they only look alike and convergent evolution exists. Your theories are mainly on the level of "this unreliable narrator said so, so I have no reason to question it". Not to mention your inherent bias and refusal to consider alternatives. The aeons are powerful? Yes. God tier? Yes. Are they gods? No. They are fundamentally independent of any belief system, as they are all ascended beings of wildly different origins, and are effectively personifications of concepts. Gods are, on the other hand, intrinsically connected to culture and their relevance (and consequently influence) is dependent on their worshippers. You wouldn't call gravity a god, even if it had a personification. Nor would that personification be the god of gravity. In short: just because you call one thing something it is not, it will not be what it isn't. Also, in light of the existence of gods in universe that are explicitly different from aeons, Herta's question could (or should) be interpreted thus: What makes a god, a god? Which coincidentally implies that she does not believe that divinity is that far from the reach of mortals.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

@ what is the basis by which u claim someone is an unreliable narrator? i havent even given u the quotes in game but youve already invoked this literary device lmfao multiple people have called aeons gods, are they all unreliable? before i find you referneces, id rather u find me one supporting ur claims otherwise everything youve typed are the depraved rambling headcannons of someone whose just read catcher in the rye

[@ame-vz2ni]

Hiiii

[@lovekila]

the way you mispronounce nous is actually driving me up the wall

[@ZeHoovy2595]

maaan i cant, these "smart ahh" questions are just so damn stupid and yet they build the whole story quests about them😭🙏

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

Whole quest and This is Just 1min cutscene