What are the Best Calls??? | Hades Guide, Tips and Tricks

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Jawless Paul

Jawless Paul

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@rpeplin
@rpeplin 3 жыл бұрын
Just as a format note, at the end of the video, a recap screen of the calls/tiers/notes would be helpful.
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao okay bro jus pay attention
@Recifully
@Recifully 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 i agree with this format note, cause... idk, maybe im not the fans for paying attention xD
@applesandbananas6761
@applesandbananas6761 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 what?
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709
@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 3 жыл бұрын
@@applesandbananas6761 gtfo you obviously weren't paying attention either
@charliethecockatoo2159
@charliethecockatoo2159 3 жыл бұрын
@@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709 Seems if anyone has trouble paying attention to these videos, it's the one who has admitted he'll likely never beat this game.
@PedanticPig
@PedanticPig 3 жыл бұрын
Charm can actually do decent damage if the enemies target each other. You can get Theseus and Asterius to take out big chunks of each other's health.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool! I haven't really experienced it but it sounds interesting!
@bruhder5854
@bruhder5854 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul it's definitely powerful on bosses where there's more than 1 enemy. Like in hades fight, you can target one of the better minion he summons and it'll do some work for you.
@lonemeditaterxghost
@lonemeditaterxghost 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like charm doesn't last long enough be worth using Aphrodite's call. I do like using the legendary that gives all weak afflictions a chance to charm though.
@teddywoods6463
@teddywoods6463 3 жыл бұрын
there's special dialouge too
@davidavila179
@davidavila179 3 жыл бұрын
it also interrupts the bosses. If they are about to attack, they just stop and you can keep on pressing buttons. For me it's A tier
@combatrobot1443
@combatrobot1443 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer Poseidon, Athena, and Ares' aid, since they're the ones that make you invincible and I mostly use Call as a panic button because I'm bad at the game
@isaaclopezruiz9597
@isaaclopezruiz9597 3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@purpleblah2
@purpleblah2 3 жыл бұрын
Charm can cancel attacks so it can also be a panic button
@isaaclopezruiz9597
@isaaclopezruiz9597 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpleblah2 Charm is so fucking good against hades. When you see the circle forming around him, if you are too close and cannot dodge, you just press call. Even better than Athenea's call.
@purpleblah2
@purpleblah2 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaaclopezruiz9597 you can also cancel his laser attack and a fully charged charm does like 1600 dmg
@isaaclopezruiz9597
@isaaclopezruiz9597 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpleblah2 2500*
@marichuy2531
@marichuy2531 3 жыл бұрын
i agreed with almost everything except artemis!!! i absolutely love hers, i call it my “press f to delete the boss” aid lmaooooo
@moocowp4970
@moocowp4970 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same, and Aphrodite! They both just wipe the boss in one hit; I don't understand his logic. I'm wondering if he's coming from like a speedrun perspective or something where getting little uses throughout the campaign are important? I literally only use calls on bosses most of the time.
@Darqion
@Darqion 3 жыл бұрын
@@moocowp4970 Only using calls on bosses sounds like a waste of potential to me.. But anyway, i have never picked charm (but i will pick it up next time to see how that goes.. i didnt think it would work on bosses) But one of the reasons he doesnt like artemis, from the sound of it, was that it only really hurts with full bars, because otherwise you do 1 or 2 attacks worth of damage with some crit chance, quite meh
@geramoreno8458
@geramoreno8458 3 жыл бұрын
I think the same can be done with Poseidon's, especially because of how much it increases when you put some poms in it
@daeity1
@daeity1 3 жыл бұрын
aphro's aid used to reach (with bellowing) 5,700 dmg but they kept nerfing her call since her call practically can skip some boss phases (it got to a point where you could vanquish asterius before he could leave LMAO)
@louishastings8444
@louishastings8444 3 жыл бұрын
indeed artemis and aphtodite are the most damaging ones! I love them both and never hesitate to accept any of them when they appear.
@SiliPiano
@SiliPiano 3 жыл бұрын
Ares' Call with his legendary absolutely MELTS if you can pull it off. I got the opportunity to stand in the middle of Hades while he did his laser with my Ares call and his health sunk so fast I legit was shocked that he died.. it was so much damage I was laughing
@dwell7315
@dwell7315 2 жыл бұрын
A full Ares build (call, increased area on blade rift, longer blade rift, legendary) makes Hades genuinely a pretty easy fight once you're in the second phase. Add one of the god-gauge modifying boons (Athena, Hermes, Zeus, Poseidon) and you're good
@christopherfleetwood5252
@christopherfleetwood5252 2 жыл бұрын
I know. I was really disappointed he didn’t bring it up.
@tdawgmaster1729
@tdawgmaster1729 Жыл бұрын
Try it with Black Out from Dionysus, it's basically a chainsaw
@daywalker3735
@daywalker3735 Жыл бұрын
I love that feeling
@xSolraccarloSx
@xSolraccarloSx 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're sleepin' on best girl Aphrodite a bit (😏), that Charm makes some of the toughest rooms a cakewalk if you target the toughest enemies to fight for you instead. You can even make the Elysium bosses fight each other. It's a godsend, no pun intended, in the boss rooms of Styx for the mega-rat and mega-satyr and those pesky laser snakes. And of course the max charge hit is great on all Bosses as long as you're mindful of those impervious phase change moments. It's especially useful when you have the Pact powering up the armored foes and mini-bosses, suddenly all that heat is working in your favor. Easily S tier personally, it's saved some runs I thought for sure I wouldn't clear.
@gundam09890
@gundam09890 3 жыл бұрын
It's really good with the aphrodite zeus combo boon
@dogngarf
@dogngarf 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really the best against Asterius and Theseus.
@0MidnighttheDragon0
@0MidnighttheDragon0 3 жыл бұрын
I hnoestly love Artemis' aid. The sheer massive amount of burst damage it can inflict can be good for skipping boss phases and even just in general chunking huge parts of a boss' health bar. That's just me though
@Ross31011
@Ross31011 3 жыл бұрын
I would put Athena call at easy S tier, it's the only call that grants you imperviousness like Ares or Poseidon that also allows you to attack with your own weapons instead of the call doing the damage, when you have a very high dps build Athena call can give you best dps because you can just facetank bosses and enemies while relentlessly dishing out attacks with impunity, can also give enemies exposed status or deflect attacks for higher dps too. I think people wrongly think of Athena aid as being only for defense or better for defense than offense, my fastest fists run was with Athena call because it gave me huge dps boost against bosses and some rooms, more than Zeus or Dio would have and I am invincible too, easy S tier call for me.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree! You can dish out a lot of damage when you aren't worried about taking any!
@goochipoochie
@goochipoochie Жыл бұрын
100% agreed. Her call goes with any build you can make and doesn't hamper your gameplan. Same with deflect dash.
@MsAnderername
@MsAnderername 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who most of the time forget to use the calls and think you only need them for the Bosses I like Artemitis call, but I guess I am a simp:D
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Nah! That's a good way to use the call as well. Just not as much damage as the spammable calls 😊
@lucasbeck1391
@lucasbeck1391 3 жыл бұрын
@@skinny_fingers4511 aphrodite would like a word
@user-ke1gn3ql1g
@user-ke1gn3ql1g 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbeck1391 lol
@aikikaname6508
@aikikaname6508 3 жыл бұрын
The M in simp stands for mediocre . NOTHING about Artemis and her boons are mediocre so therefore you can’t be a simp
@holywhitetrash
@holywhitetrash 3 жыл бұрын
i like charm just because if you get it with aphro-zues duo you can make hades run into a corner and think about his life decisions so often
@Bogrin
@Bogrin 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the fun factor building around Poseidon aid brings it to S for me!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I could see that! Its such a blast! Definitely the most enjoyable call!😊
@bruhder5854
@bruhder5854 3 жыл бұрын
It's really fun on controller but if you're playing mouse and keyboard... It's not fun because you can't do 360 degrees hits easily
@andrasballa6851
@andrasballa6851 3 жыл бұрын
​@@bruhder5854 On keyboard you are pressing A and D repeatedly while standing right on top of the boss and it'll tick once every 0.75 second. Against normal enemies, if it doesn't oneshot them then yeah it can be a little awkward.
@nevar23
@nevar23 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I'm trying to like Zeus call, but the 2500 insta-damage from Artemis or Aphro feels better to me than the lightning bolts, where getting them to actually hit the enemy is a challenge that usually doesn't go well for me. I'll keep trying and hoping I find the trick to it.
@TheTrueVirus22
@TheTrueVirus22 3 жыл бұрын
A little late answer maybe but i for my part make it dependant on the weapon i use. With fists or sword you are usually pretty close to the enemy so the lightning hits the right target most of the time.
@dexter2392
@dexter2392 3 жыл бұрын
Artemis is 7500 damage if you crit, takes out a phase of Hades in one hit
@soulofrei643
@soulofrei643 2 жыл бұрын
same thing for me- I don't really like the zeus call bc it requires me to be on top of enemies and i usually reserve calls for when i'm getting tired and overwhelmed towards the end, but the artemis call is perfect for that bc it can charge up to full then instantly delete smth like the last phase of the hydra with one button
@jtrockzs
@jtrockzs 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love your content. You and Mr.H are totally keeping this fun hundreds of hours into my game! These videos are always a joy to view. Please do keep publishing more content like this! Happy holidays and thank you!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@GEOPAS1995
@GEOPAS1995 3 жыл бұрын
I love that series, cant wait for the updated one on casts! :D
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Its a monster video to make!
@bigtimeepic982
@bigtimeepic982 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything besides Poseidon aid, id put that in s tier also. With like 3 poms your up to 500 damage and you can really lay in with it
@dsm2k1
@dsm2k1 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out Athena's Aid and cursed slash from Stygian. That combo just means you can play as recklessly as you like and can heal it all up. With those two you kinda just dont die.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea!
@Vampireangel1011
@Vampireangel1011 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!! I love playing with Sygius because of cursed slash! Plowed through the game fairly well with that daidalus upgrade
@hatsthebats
@hatsthebats 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I beat Hades for the 1st time!
@AMERICANSQVIDIOT
@AMERICANSQVIDIOT 3 жыл бұрын
but will anything actually beat hearing Demeter's "I will take everything away!" for the first time?
@segamai
@segamai 3 жыл бұрын
To me, not a single other line in the game comes close to the sheer fucking might and gravitas emanating from that one. Even after hearing it so many times already, it still gives me such a rush
@Muffinmurdurer
@Muffinmurdurer 3 жыл бұрын
Demeter's call may not be the best but she is badass.
@GeaForce
@GeaForce 3 жыл бұрын
Especially when used on Hades
@asiamangape4311
@asiamangape4311 3 жыл бұрын
Charm has to be my favorite thing in the game. There is a legendary boon that makes every weak attack charm 15 percent of the time. I was doing a bow run, where I decided to use the shotgun strat. (Special spam). I got that legendary so every time I got close to an enemy, and did my special on it and it was charmed.
@wobblecrash
@wobblecrash 3 жыл бұрын
Hades call is actually so good, the 100% damage increase is pretty massive
@Vampireangel1011
@Vampireangel1011 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, especially if you've upgraded your weapon damages.
@Plerion
@Plerion 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I just wanted to add that Aphrodite's Aid paired with Smoldering Air (Duo with Zeus) is easily an A setup in my opinion; you can just spam it and keep enemies nearly perma-confused, it's pretty neat for CC :)
@Gusativo
@Gusativo 3 жыл бұрын
yes! one of my easiest hades battles was with that set up!
@dwaynetang721
@dwaynetang721 3 жыл бұрын
Charm with the Zeus Aphro Duo is actually really good against daddy, you spam it and you disable most of his attacks.
@miracle3515
@miracle3515 3 жыл бұрын
you just had to say daddy huh😭
@j4im39494
@j4im39494 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new YT subscriber, commenting for the first time ever, your Hades content is sick bro, i thought i was kind of done with the game until I found your channel. Keep up the great work! Much love from Peru!!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you for the kind words!
@kingsora1390
@kingsora1390 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite’s call is really good or I really like if you’re able to get the duo boon that makes the gauge fill up really fast, it just becomes spam charm and enemies can’t do anything but that’s really the only good time
@arowace498
@arowace498 3 жыл бұрын
There's no way you can rate puddles aid over beyblade aid. My only problem is you didn't factor in the blade rift modifications like black metal but you did factor in the rip current thing for poseidon. Ares aid with modification destroys poseidons aid with modification. But this is inspiring me to make an aid focused build for my next run and try some aids I don't use often so I enjoyed this.
@rafaelbordoni516
@rafaelbordoni516 3 жыл бұрын
A point I like to bring up is synergies. I think this game is much more about synergies than how good things are individually. In this case, Aphro+Zeus's Smoldering Air duo is one of the best duo boons by itself, but with Aphro call it can theoretically perma charm Hades. The thing about those calls that have a duration is that Aphro's charm is a debuff, so while the charm is still under effect, your call bar is building up, unlike Athena's or Poseidon's. It is also the longest duration of calls, and you can pom it for increased duration. so if you pom it and have Clouded Judgement to fill the bar faster, Hades will stay charmed longer than not, and I think it might be possible to make it permanent (though I never did it myself). A sad thing about Dio's call is that due to the way hangover stacks work, you shouldn't get his call if you have other hangover sources because they will overwrite his call, which sucks ass. Even if it didn't got overwritten, then your other sources would get overwritten, which is still a dps loss (it is also downright broken with Smoldering Air due to durations and bla bla bla). Another combo I've heard is Hades call + Hestia rail. Never did it, but it sounds at least fun!
@kazthehack
@kazthehack 3 жыл бұрын
Artemis Aid can push boss phases, especially in hades on heat imagine having sneaks and you can "force" push the next phase easily
@adad87821
@adad87821 2 жыл бұрын
ikr?artimes is call is actually pretty good if your looking for crtical hits also if you use artimes call at max it MELTS hades health
@celestialspark5697
@celestialspark5697 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note about Ares call is that the damage scaling with rarity is absolutely ridiculous for some reason. Zeus call goes from 50 to 60 damage between common and Epic, a 20% damage boost. Dionysus goes from 15 to 18 damage per tick, a 20% damage boost. Poseidon goes from 250 to 350 damage, a much larger 40% boost. Ares goes from 30 to 45 damage, a whopping 50% damage boost. Ares greater call is basically a guaranteed Hades health threshold (e.g. until he puts up a damage shield) with a lot of residual mob damage as well, which is about all you can ask of a greater call, although Dio call is probably the best IMO if you're just looking at the single bar calls (and common Dio call, used four times for one bar, outdamages Aphro greater call of any rarity, for what it's worth, so it's just purely better in so many ways other than the interrupt). Athena call used to be straight up the best in the game for the final boss because of absolutely obscene pom scaling, like level 6 greater call would last his entire 2nd or 3rd health bar including through the damage shields (around 25 seconds) if you had decent damage to back it up. It's since been nerfed into the ground, though.
@irelicym
@irelicym 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you look like 10 years younger without the facial hair LMAO
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I know! I kinda hate it!
@irelicym
@irelicym 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul You look good either way bud, great video :)
@whatgsaid
@whatgsaid 3 жыл бұрын
Hades Call from a *comic relief* standpoint is automatic S Tier, though, because calling on Hades while you fight him triggers dialogue lines that are absolutely HILARIOUS.
@Sitania
@Sitania 3 жыл бұрын
I agree ares aid isn't great, but it has its uses. You should have mentioned that dio aid is worthless if you have any other dio, because it's hangover dmg is so much lower than any other ways to implement hangover. Which is why I don't like it
@samyen3210
@samyen3210 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you marked the spoiler part of the video as "secret keepsake", otherwise I'd get spoiled. Also this video convinced me to try getting aid from from other gods besides Poseidon
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your call adventures!
@chaeriplease
@chaeriplease 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused about why you said Hermes' boon that increases your God Gauge automatically is not good at all? I love this boon, it's great for boss fights when you're constantly dashing and have trouble finding an opening to go in and get a hit, instead of staying stagnant the gauge fills up by itself pretty fast.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the benefit is marginal unless you are playing very slowly. I suppose it can eek out some extra damage if you are stalling. Might just be a style of play thing.
@chaeriplease
@chaeriplease 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul I can see why you'd find it useless as someone who's great at this game. I'm new to video games and I suck a lot so it helped my very slow and hesitant play style 🤣
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's all good! I remember playing slowly when I was learning! It is definitely useful then!
@TraumaHound
@TraumaHound 3 жыл бұрын
JP has the 'no facial hair' keepsake equipped for this video
@Patatoskys
@Patatoskys 3 жыл бұрын
Recap: Zeus: S Dionysus: S Athena: A Demeter: B+ Poseidon: B Ares: C Artemis: C Aphrodite: C- Spoiler: Hades: B?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You might be right about the spoiler one...
@hunterv8863
@hunterv8863 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodites call with a couple poms, Smoldering Air, and a few other boons that enhance your call's chargeup allow you to charm practically every enemy in a room, and it can continuously shut down Hades to where he can only get 1 attack in every 5-6 seconds, after which charmed once again. Makes the boss an actual cakewalk
@moocowp4970
@moocowp4970 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I didn't think of that; I always grab her call if possible but almost always for the 2500 damage, not for the charm. I'll have to try this approach!
@raichumelonz
@raichumelonz 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like spamming Aphrodite. I’m not sure how long the charm lasts on bosses but with poms it can be pretty long. Especially if you make the heroes fight each other and interrupt hades spin
@Frenzyshark
@Frenzyshark 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you have to choose between 4 charms or big damage.
@Mikko_25
@Mikko_25 3 жыл бұрын
Great list! The one thing I do really like about Artemis' call is that it seeks out enemies so you can wait behind the barrier and still get Hades. However, it's annoying when it doesn't go for the intended target!
@McCool117
@McCool117 3 жыл бұрын
I just kept thinking about the Bastion song being used in the background, while watching this.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Bastion had such good music
@kam8460
@kam8460 3 жыл бұрын
I like Hades for a few reasons. 5 seconds of invisibility and 100% flat boost at max is strong to begin with, it basically gives you two boons for the one slot with the call and the starting with partial gauge, and it gives you a little more control over the game's randomness since none of the gods will ever offer you Aid while you're wearing it.
@codyjacobs6899
@codyjacobs6899 3 жыл бұрын
I find that posiedon's aid is damn near useless on keyboard if you are on pc lol
@nicolascardozo9236
@nicolascardozo9236 3 жыл бұрын
My ranking would go upside down. lmao I honestly rarely ever need a call unless it's a boss fight. so aphrodite and artemis do a really good job at that, especially if you pair it up with hermes 1% per second. it doesn't tend to do much in other situations, but in a boss fight it will allow you to use it twice or maybe 3 times if you get hit a bit too much, which is great
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@nicolascardozo9236
@nicolascardozo9236 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul your videos are overall pretty helpful tho, keep it up
@dennisjoosen7899
@dennisjoosen7899 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching more and more of your videos recently, whenever I need to take a break from Hades but can't stop thinking about Hades; they're great!! I hope I can catch one of your streams sometime (PS: I was kind of surprised when you said Quick Favor was bad; isn't the automatic gauge fill nice to have?)
@mic01851165
@mic01851165 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny you rank Zeus higher than Poseidon even though you can run a full call Poseidon and easily beat Hades with ripped current full bar call while being completely invulnerable. Not to mention you can just spam this move whenever a boss is doing some dangerous move to bypass that damage while doing massive damage in return. Not to mention the billowing strength ALSO works on Poseidon call and further boosts its internal damage. You can actually beat the game easily centering with just this one call. (grab duo boon to autocharge call very fast) Everything just dies immediately and all bosses become punching bag with 0 threat. Oh, did I mention you can ALSO grab duo boon Sea Storm to add lightning strike to your Poisedon call and making it doing even more damage than Zeus Call? (It already does more damage than Zeus call w/o though) Oh, did I also mention you can grab 30% damage to boss when use knockback move = Poseidon call too? You can hit like 10k+ damage with full bar Poseidon call if invested. One call is enough to kill Hades Phase 3. You can't do this with Zeus call. Zeus call requires more input to be good. Might be very good for speedrun but I wouldn't say the call itself can carry you through run. I don't think it's easy to ONLY use Zeus call to beat the game , but with Poseidon +ripped current you can do that easily. To me Zeus call is definitely much lower in terms of its strength. It's a nice addition but it's not build defining/ game changing. Personally I'd rank Poseidon a S and Zeus a B. Whenever I play high heat and have some trouble I just try to find Poseidon Call to cheese it.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Zeus will always do more damage because you can do all of your regular attacks along with the zeus lightning strikes. To each their own though!
@mic01851165
@mic01851165 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul Yeah it's good for speedrun in low heat like I said but is not build defining/ game carrying. In speedrun you want as much dm as possible and nothing else, so you can spam Zeus while going all out dishing damage. A noob who try high heat for the first time can't get carried by Zeus call just because it deals damage, they have to play very good too. For Poseidon you're invulnerable during the call = you can do whatever and win the game if you build for it. If you want full facetank mode while spamming attacks then Athena full call is even better in high heat with full bar no? My point is if we look at the call itself Zeus call is just like Dionysus call , is only damage on top of your build and that's it. It doesn't change the way you play the game.
@orpancho
@orpancho 3 жыл бұрын
I've a high suspicion that charmed enemies are buffed while they're cursed, just to leave a couple of examples I've seen a swordsmen one shotting two armored swordsmen and a skeleton hitting really hard Hades.
@hunterv8863
@hunterv8863 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're right, I was running with it the other day, and I noticed that in the Satyr Tunnels whenever I charmed a snake stone, its lasers decimated any enemy almost immediately
@ilpane495
@ilpane495 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler warning kind sir
@MaxHaydenChiz
@MaxHaydenChiz 3 жыл бұрын
As I've gotten better at the game and moved into higher heats with different weapons and aspects, and discovered more and more builds, I've found that more and more of what I didn't like turns out to have some use in some situation, it's just that how I was playing up until that point didn't make that situation particularly common. It still seems like it's a lot easier to force some situations over others though. So, that's what I go by when thinking of this stuff. How many future possible options does this thing enable? Or if I see it late in a run when other things are locked in, how helpful would this still be on average?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great way to think about things!
@sirkimestry4524
@sirkimestry4524 3 жыл бұрын
Yep you guessed it, I disagree with Ares' aid. I think it's the same with Poseidon with no Rip Current at B tier. I've learned to appreciate it on medium to high heat runs cause I used it defensively if I can't get Poseidon or Athena's aid.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! 😂
@dakodabaldur3037
@dakodabaldur3037 3 жыл бұрын
Quick favor is great imo. When ever I run it, I'll get my calls so fast.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
That's great you like that boon! I haven't noticed very much from it. A HUGE factor in charging your call quickly is how many "ticks" of damage you have. If you are hitting with big crits every few seconds, vs if you do 10 different sources of tiny amounts of damage, you will charge your call MUCH faster with the quick, numerous, small sources of damage.
@firzt0
@firzt0 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain why the automatic increase in God Guage isnt very good? I thought it fills up way faster with that boon. Or did I misunderstand him?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Its just very slow and so not worth the boon.Hermes has other way better boons
@firzt0
@firzt0 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul oh, i see where you're coming from. I just find that it helps me a ton on runs where I play defensively (or just plain slow). It's nice to have a call for free like every minute or so. Or when I'm doing a god guage build with Proud Bearing and Clouded Judgement.
@206lbs.hercules5
@206lbs.hercules5 3 жыл бұрын
I think its pretty pretty good as far as boons go but not great for something from Hermes. It can be worth picking if you don't have any other options that work well with you build.
@DanielGonzalezL
@DanielGonzalezL 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I disagree with almost everything you said. But hey I use calls exclusively when fully charged, maybe that's why.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
That'll do it! 😂
@TheTrueVirus22
@TheTrueVirus22 3 жыл бұрын
The one actually good thing about Aphrodites call is that you always get the 2500 damage no matter if the boon is normal, rare, epic or heroic. And if you get other boons which enable you to fill up the bar to max quickly it is pretty good against bosses at least.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! It's a great boss killer!
@arthurhengch
@arthurhengch 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite's call is probably my favorite, as I love ranged calls. And with the 25% regenerating call duo boon I ran around the stage and have Asterius kill Theseus with the blade storm attack. And have Zeus just stand around doing nothing while I beat the crap out of him.
@ConnorKrohnicles
@ConnorKrohnicles 3 жыл бұрын
Literally took me 15 runs while running Poseidon keepsake to get rip current for the fated prophecy thing, the call wouldn’t ever show up... super unlucky lol but finally got it on run 16!
@ZBilbs
@ZBilbs 3 жыл бұрын
Love the list and your content, but here is my own: S: Poseidon, Artemis, Aphrodite (underrated, amazing against bosses, with smoldering air, hades could not do anything) A: Demeter, Athena B: Ares C: Zeus, Dionysus (I don’t understand why you love these, I only have found use in close range builds, I find them generally mediocre, but then again I’m not a pro)
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the things I love about this game is that there are so many takes for how the game can be played! Thanks for sharing your list!
@TheAnjelHarte
@TheAnjelHarte 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started playing I would get ares aid and get as many blade rift buffs as I could and then just sit on top of hades while he did the 360 lasers and watch the health melt away. I find it boring now that I’m better but it’s real good for new players who are having trouble with hades
@_beg
@_beg 2 жыл бұрын
Is there something against the poison? It eats my life so fast.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
You can click the little yellow pools and they will cure the poison
@Braunty
@Braunty 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand the rating for Aphrodite's call... Probably my favourite. At max Gauge it hits for 2500 damage and makes the enemy not attack you for a while... I can use it to finish of Lernie after the second Impervious section, etc. It's is almost like having an extra Meg companion use and the gauge is almost always fully charged nearing the end of boss fights when I use it. Can usually use it twice on Hades. That's a free 5000 damage and a long period where he's ignoring you
@tanner7358
@tanner7358 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree with everything about this list. I will say that I only use the greater call and I usually only use calls against bosses or mini bosses, so my opinion probably differs because of that. I find Posiadon's call to hard to use effectively since you can only hit things by running into them. Athena's is like every other Athena boon, great for survival, not great for damage. Demeter's is amazing if you have her other boons to back it up. Dio's and Zeus's are both good for DOT and are easily the best multi-target calls in the game. Ares' is basically Athena's but with way more damage potential. I'd say Hades' is basically similar to Athena's as well except you can't be targeted instead of being impervious but you are still relying on your own attacks to do any damage. Which brings us to the two MVP's, Artemis and Aphrodite. Both can erase boss phases or take off around a third of a bosses health in an instant. They are hands down the most powerful single-target calls in the game. Artemis's call has the added bonus of going through sheilds while Aphrodite's can charm. During the Theseus fight, Aphrodite's call is basically cheating and against Hades, you can keep him stumbling around for a good chunk of the fight. Aphrodite's call is also the only call I find useful to use with Smoldering Air as I find charm to still be useful in small doses whereas I find the other less than greater calls to be too short to really be effective.
@lonewander6772
@lonewander6772 3 жыл бұрын
Zeus or Dionysis is my go-to for any of my Malphon builds or in-your-face melee builds. Otherwise if I do range I go for Artemis or Demeter. Athena and Ares are pretty much panic escape calls that can be good on any build, though Athena is more well rounded. I don't use Aphrodite's much. Poseidon's is a little weird for me, but I guess I can put it in the panic escape category.
@cocomunga
@cocomunga 3 жыл бұрын
Poseidon all the way for me. About to get hit? Use it and deal good damage. God gauge is full? Deal a ton of damage. Athena is basically the same. If your damage isn’t too good Poseidon will help more. Zeus can do tons with the right additional boons. I don’t like Demeter’s call. Aphrodite at least does big damage fast. I have to try charm out. Maybe that will help me beat 32 heat. I’m close to being able to beat it, but I need to get better at the game. On a side note. When you mentioned killing freeze it reminded me of what happened yesterday. I killed Hades with Winter Harvest ( pretty sure it did it ). Demeter said something right as it happened, though I forget what it was. If you never saw that, try it,
@albertchung7641
@albertchung7641 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite's call is insanely good when you have her duo boon with Zues that automatically fills up the gauge but caps it at 25%. Charm Hades to interrupt his combos; hes basically defenseless and open to a beating every few secones when you spam Aphrodite's call. I would just focus on dodging him and come in to combo him after calling Aphrodite. It gets even better when you have her boon that buffs damage to weakened foes. Barely took any damage in the fight.
@sr.lontra
@sr.lontra 3 жыл бұрын
For me Ares is a B tier By itself it's not great. Convenient to chunk some damage and dodge an attack. But you never pick it and not increase its potential with other boons like engulfing vortex and vicious cicle They absolutely SHREDD bosses. So it's not actually a B tier. It's more like a C tier, but with A power when builded
@ninten90z70
@ninten90z70 3 жыл бұрын
This is one list of yours I do not agree with. Setting personal preferences aside, the main reason I do not agree with it is that the ranking is entirely biased. You rank Poseidon call at the top because it is your personal favorite and you rank Ares near the bottom because you struggle to make it work. As for my preferences... Hate Poseidon call because controlling it is a pain. Hate Ares call because it is slow. Hate Demeter call because sticking it to mobile targets is a pain and by the time it reaches full size it is almost over anyway. Zeus and Dionysus calls are okay, but they don't offer me anything that I cannot get from their standard boons. Artemis call is not that great because even at max gauge and even if all arrows crit, the call still does less damage than a max gauge Aphrodite call. Love Aphrodite call because it has multiple applications for mob and boss fights. Charmed enemies can do some of the work for me and are also easier to backstab and full gauge chunks bosses. Love Athena call because it provides seconds of an actual god mode for a game like this.
@thebearup
@thebearup 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree about Zeus's call. You have to stay near a target, without invincibility, and it strikes at random. Everytime I use it I seem to get less out of it than I would expect. Maybe spamming is explicitly better for this one than waiting, since you don't need to stay up close for the entire time. Conversely Ares gives you invulnerability and full control over what you hit.
@gloglebag
@gloglebag Жыл бұрын
I love Aphrodite's call, it's so nice and spammable, especially if you get boons to quickly fill the gauge. I remember using it in the Hades fight. I would attack and just before he attacked me, I would use it. And I spammed that the whole fight. I love it.
@ConnorKrohnicles
@ConnorKrohnicles 3 жыл бұрын
Artemis and Aphrodite calls are so fun
@pamanto1967
@pamanto1967 3 жыл бұрын
Best my call always athena call, aphrodite, and poseidon.. Ares not bad, artemis decent My least fav, zeus, demeter, I hope call hit target but suck zeus we must go near them, for sorry i cant spell Dionysius, decent damage but not hit target we must near them.. Athena, for heat run so good, poseidon if u get fast charge call and more duration so good, aphrodite just get fast charge, easy damage
@brooksington4696
@brooksington4696 3 жыл бұрын
I'd personally say poseidon has the most useful call imo. Rip current obviously makes it much better, but even without it I take poseidons aid as a defensive pick over athena any day of the week. I use it right when I'm about to dodge out of something and instead charge in for more damage. It's also worth noting that it combines well with all the poseidon knock back boons as well and is imo one of the best calls to spam if you have all the supporting boons, perhaps right behind zeus in that regard.
@stevenyee850
@stevenyee850 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite's Aid is S tier for bosses, D tier otherwise Interrupts and keeps the boss from doing dmg longer than the the invulnerability duration of other calls If you're doing well and can hold onto the call you can finish off the boss with insane dmg burst
@kevinc62
@kevinc62 2 жыл бұрын
Old video, but I would hard disagree on Artemis. This thing can absolutely destroy bosses if you have a boon to charge the gauge fast. In Hades, you can clear most room easily, without Cast, so Artemis is for bosses.
@LeonValenti
@LeonValenti 3 жыл бұрын
Aphrodite call feels a lot better, and even unfair, with smouldering air. Charm locking Hades for the entire fight is pretty chef's kiss. But yeah, on its own, it is underwhelming.
@gavintheuerzeit6495
@gavintheuerzeit6495 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to play with long range weapons. You ranked calls I prefer (hades and Artemis) low, this is kinda surprising but I guess that gives me a reason to experiment with other calls.
@vbhvsgr
@vbhvsgr 3 жыл бұрын
Ares call is a lot better with either of tier 2 rift boons and the legendary, bumps it up to at least B tier IMO. Wish you had mentioned those but I completely agree with all your other rankings and reasoning.
@AndersonBLUE1
@AndersonBLUE1 3 жыл бұрын
I take Aphrodite’s call the least unless it’s late in a run and nothing better has come up. It’s massive full gauge damage is good for final boss as you often get at least 2 full bars during the fight, but for the rest of the run it’s pretty weak
@PhenomAnon08
@PhenomAnon08 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anything with like a one shot build using Hestia rail and SPOILER call? I guess armor kinda negates that effect unfortunately but it could be fun nonetheless
@dieritze4185
@dieritze4185 3 жыл бұрын
solid list, i really like poseidon, zeus and dionysis' but aphrodites charm is nice in the theseus fight, when he calls HIS aid and you charm him and the bull is nearby it almost kills him instantly ^^
@omerfarukvural9597
@omerfarukvural9597 3 жыл бұрын
charm charm charm, if you can get the Zeus duo, it's almost like cheating. No boss can deal any damage to you. So i think the call is Aphrodite's aid with the Zeus duo
@gambitguides
@gambitguides 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why some think Demeter call is not so good, but when they are in the Elysium final boss fight, they go 'Oh cr*p, Demeter'. Including myself I might add. Is this call stronger compared to when you use it yourself then?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
The reason Demeter call is so bad against you is because it staggers you, which is really bad!
@andrey2604
@andrey2604 3 жыл бұрын
strange ranking imo. speedruners mindset i see in it. as average player i would prefer s over extra damage every time i get to choose. So for me athena is absolute champion S tier and zeus is somewhere B.
@oberus_xd6986
@oberus_xd6986 3 жыл бұрын
My tier list is: 1 - Dionysus 2- Athena 3- Aphrodite 4- Zeus 5- Demeter 6- Artemis 7- Hades 8- Poseidon 9- Ares
@rattlemebones7413
@rattlemebones7413 Жыл бұрын
Hades call + billowing strength = 120%-130% damage buff and you can attack normally while invincible
@Vampireangel1011
@Vampireangel1011 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer Artemis's and Aphrodite's call, only because i stack my damage builds to where i don't really need to use it as a spammable thing.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I can see that. With some builds though you can basically spam Zeus's call. It's crazy!
@TheGigahutt
@TheGigahutt 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos get me through hades..for that i sub you ma man 👍🏻😄
@letsnot1123
@letsnot1123 3 жыл бұрын
Once did an aphro call run where hades couldnt do anything cause he was charmed 80% of the time w zeus aphro duo
@ChonkUm
@ChonkUm 3 жыл бұрын
After 10 hrs im finally strating to use cast consistently, now i gotta worry about CALLS!? Lol
@sentakukuraiko138
@sentakukuraiko138 3 жыл бұрын
Athenas call is probably my most used call. It's just so good to chill in Hades' lasers and do massive damage while you won't take any. Same goes for Ares. I like Aphrodite for huge damage in a single shot but I don't really use Artemis. I just don't really know what to think of Artemis' call but maybe I should give it another chance. Zeus and Dionysus are always nice to have. Poseidon is kinda in the middle for me. It depends on my playstyle for each of the weapons and their aspects (there are some aspects with which I don't really want to have that call) but if I play with high heat levels, then it's always nice. All calls which make you impervious are nice on high heat, I would say. Hades' call is pretty cool and I tend to use it a lot if I just don't get any other call I would want in a run. But I do agree with you that it is not a good choice for a keepsake to start a run with.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Athena's call is my go-to for high heat runs.
@moocowp4970
@moocowp4970 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, essentially the exact opposite of what I would class them as (except for Zeus, I still like his, particularly when partnered with his other boons). My fav to get is Aphrodite and Artemis (I agree, only use them at Max Gauge). Aphrodite > Artemis > Zeus > Dionysus > Demeter > Poseidon > Ares > Athena . The top of the list are the ones that kill the bosses quicker, the bottom are just used as Get Out Of Jail cards if you get trapped and are about to take damage. I really don't see how you put Aphrodite and Artemis down the bottom. Is it even possible to do 2500+ damage with Dionysus, Poseidon, Ares, Athena or Demeter? Aphrodite or Artemis will take 30-40% of a boss' health down in one hit.
@moocowp4970
@moocowp4970 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, and Hades I used like once, I thought it was trash. Perhaps I didn't figure out it's usage properly, but I would have put it D tier.
@carolleuzzi1023
@carolleuzzi1023 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the Invulnerable trio calls, I usually prefer Athena's because I play on the keyboard and my maneuverability is kinda sucky. So I just use it as a panic button and actually got my first win with this one and the ever loved/hated cursed slash stygius. But for damage, my favorite one is mah gal Aphrodite's. Especially against bosses, you just pound on them till they get to the 1/3 health invulnerable divider and then press F to end it. Don't give them a chance to wail on you with those desperate attacks of third phase boss. Just melt them in one blow. I actually was fighting Hades once and I timed it poorly on the second phase and he got invulnerable saying "Aphrodite has no power here". Okay. I waited till it was loaded up again and just one shotted him. Who has no power now, lamey daddy?
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Haha! Well done Carol! You show him who's boss! 🤣
@gabrielomaralmendraspena3902
@gabrielomaralmendraspena3902 3 жыл бұрын
Zeus's call is insane with the right boons, he literally killed hades on his own, not that my damage was trash, it was pretty good, but he did like 70% of the job. Ps: currently i'm just at heat 2 so beating hades is rare to me :)
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Zeus is great!
@CarlosTheBarlos2
@CarlosTheBarlos2 3 жыл бұрын
"middle of the pack" is actually bottom tier heh
@markgresch9944
@markgresch9944 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I find Dio's call to be the worst. You don't have any shortage of ways of doing damage in Hades and odds and if you a picking Dio, you are likely applying hangover some other way anyways. That you need to stay in melee is what hamstrings it. That's also the only thing that saves Demeter's call, in that it's fire and forget. Zeus, sure extra damage is nice, but again, I'm probably dropping bolts of them some other way, but I have to stay in Melee and it offers no utility. Athena's call I find is the best, you tap it and go to town or you can use it as a get out of jail free card. The other Invul. calls aren't bad because they have utility to get you out of a tricky spot, but they freeze your other actions and offer much less damage. Artemis and Aphrodite are your middle of the roads to me. Artemis is only good at full charge, but man does it wallop, same with Aphrodite's unless you get her Zeus dual boon, which allows you to basically stun lock Hades. Athena: S Poseidon: A Everyone else: B Zeus & Demeter: C Dio: D
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I got a build for you coming soon. Dio call can really pump out some amazing damage. For the hades fight I only use my dash and call. I found smoldering air duo and proud bearing from Athena. Legit was an amazing call run. Thanks for providing your list!
@azizsh6301
@azizsh6301 3 жыл бұрын
My list is the opposite of yours :)) guess that's because I use the call only at maximum gauge for boss fights and never used them in normal encounters! Artemis' and Aphrodite's deals ridiculous damage Immediately, you don't have to stand there risking taking damage yourself. Ares' makes you invulnerable for a long time while dealing huge damage as well (especially if you got Blade Rift improving boons, there's 3 of them) so it's basically at the same level with Poseidon's.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@callizer
@callizer 3 жыл бұрын
Smoldering Air + Aphrodite's Call can pretty much stunlock Hades.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun!
@Cthulhusdreams
@Cthulhusdreams 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree on artemis and aphrodite. I usually take artemis of it comes up it's a great finisher. You just have to find the bosses shield phases. Great for phase 2-3 bursting them down. As for aphrodite I recently got the boon (and used it) where your call caps at 25 percent and I had the last 2 bosses stun locked. I actually made the minotaur kill theseus and then just stopped hades every time he was about to do something I didn't enjoy hah. That's a very specific situation though and I guess you would have to set yourself up for it but man was it fun. Otherwise your list is solid. Zeus is my go to always it's prolly the best and with the double strikes, expanded bolt radius and the after call dmg it's crazy. Thanks for the video man always catch these you've helped my hades game immensely
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Fair point! It's great to hear other perspectives!
@Animedingo
@Animedingo 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a combo boon, I think its Zeus Athena, it caps your call meter at 25% but it charges really fast That with Athenas call is REALLY good. You'll never hit full call but you'll get more uses out of it than if you did charge it up. Why charge it for 6 times the length, when you could get it every few seconds
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's aphro zeus. It's amazing with almost any call!
@MrMikopi
@MrMikopi 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I started the game, I know there were a lot of content to be explored. So I decided I shouldn't look up any content on internet. Now I've finished the game lots of times, and I still get spoiled for watching other peoples game footages. Damn. Can you summon bouldy :O
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry things have been spoiled for you! It's very hard to avoid when you are watching videos and streams
@MrMikopi
@MrMikopi 2 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul No man i know, great content :)
@Kittyinshadows
@Kittyinshadows 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's not very good at video games, what i want from my call is really to charge it to full as quick as possible, and get a huge chunk of damage off, which i think Artemis' is definitely best for. Zeus dionysus and poseidon do a lot of damage, but you need to position yourself well for that, while artemis is just one huge shot at the biggest enemy from anywhere on the map. Athena and poseidon i mostly use as a get out of jail free card incrementally, as opposed to getting damage out. Just whenever i panic i can call and escape that big hit coming my way
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! The main issue with the "fully charged" calls is that 90% of rooms won't get you to full charge and by then the fight is already over. Thanks for the comment!
@anis_n
@anis_n 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know some of my top Calls are the same as yours as well 😆
@HavikXIII
@HavikXIII 2 жыл бұрын
Poseidons is A tier up to S with rip current for its damage alone. Up to 7500-9000 at max call when it's rare and upgraded. I've taken hades from half health to dead in about 5 seconds flat
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Riptide is bonkers!
@MetroidPurples
@MetroidPurples 3 жыл бұрын
Uh Poseidon makes you invincible and deals massive damage?? How is that not S tier??
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