Fist and Rail Aspects Guide & Tier Ranking | Hades Tips and Tricks

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Jawless Paul

Jawless Paul

3 жыл бұрын

Let's talk about the Fist and Rail! This completes are update of the weapon aspects. As you probably noticed, there isn't a lot of variation in the aspects. I think Supergiant has done an amazing job of balancing the weapon aspects for this game. That makes for a less interesting video, but a really fun video game! 😂 Thanks for tuning in and I hope you are having a wonderful day!
**CORRECTION
Demeter Fist does 7 hits, not 5.
Fist:
Zag: 0:48
Tal: 3:28
Dem: 5:14
Gil: 6:47
Rail:
Zag: 9:53
Eri: 11:35
Hes:12:56
Luc: 14:57
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Hades is a god-like rogue-like dungeon crawler that combines the best aspects of Supergiant's critically acclaimed titles, including the fast-paced action of Bastion, the rich atmosphere and depth of Transistor, and the character-driven storytelling of Pyre.
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@Miauteusz
@Miauteusz 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I am the only person thinking that R3 is the worst possible button for reload :D
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Not at all!
@satan7481
@satan7481 3 жыл бұрын
Freaking remapped that to L1
@jeremyjoyner9796
@jeremyjoyner9796 3 жыл бұрын
Yes R3 made no sense, i remapped it to L3
@superartstudio
@superartstudio 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It should be any direction on right stick.
@liambrookshire4082
@liambrookshire4082 3 жыл бұрын
I swapped ot to l1 as well it's so much better also.... use auto aim
@kumottakun6089
@kumottakun6089 3 жыл бұрын
Building up your dodge percentage is actually awesome! A lambent plume keepsake with 26-30% dodge chance plus the Arthur Sword special makes you invisible to Hades' bbq beams at the final battle. No need to hide behind those two thicc pillar thingies anymore ✨
@WiresOutMyEas
@WiresOutMyEas 3 жыл бұрын
speaking of re-mapping. having the dash on a shoulder button makes it easy to both dash attack or dash special.
@OmegaFire11
@OmegaFire11 3 жыл бұрын
I put special and cast on triggers, personally
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 жыл бұрын
On pc the rail feels way better, the special can become godly in an heartbeat
@lokey57
@lokey57 3 жыл бұрын
This. I still agree with the ratings generally for the weapons, but rail feels like it's a lot stronger on PC using Mouse and Keyboard than described here. To the point that some friends I know playing on PC have accused the rail of being the game's "easy mode". With that said, if Rail reload is bound to R3 of all things by default...I can see why Rail will definitely have a weaker impression.
@saikeshi
@saikeshi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I play on Mouse and keyboard and never really had the issue he had with the weapon. Easy to aim the special. But even if its better to aim I still find a boring weapon imo.
@begejekan1244
@begejekan1244 3 жыл бұрын
I find the damage to be lackluster compared to other weapons :/ maybe still not finding the right build
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@lokey57 the special is basically unusable on controller i think
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@begejekan1244 the special is very fucking strong, put your hammers into the special and give it doom, as for the attack, Artemis or hangover are the best choices. Hangover can stack five times, your attack becomes immediately 5 times as good
@Nightheart973
@Nightheart973 3 жыл бұрын
Funny imo the Rail is by far the best weapon in Hades. It's so convinvient when you master its handling. Even for beginners this weapon is amazing. I did my first escape with it. Just go for the dyonisus ares duo on atk / cast and the triple shot on aspect if zagreus. Ez mode. Or use zeus on basic at. Idk every boon feels broken on this thing.
@Creshex8
@Creshex8 2 жыл бұрын
I personally find it funny that most of the cast of gods and monsters are seriously terrified of the rail.
@moresoysauce5489
@moresoysauce5489 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't stagger tho that always messes me up
@TheLazarusOperation
@TheLazarusOperation Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hated it at first, and now it's my number 1.
@quekjieren
@quekjieren 3 жыл бұрын
The dodge chance of malphon, could be stacked with hermes greater evasion, stacked lambent plume and ruthless reflex dodge to have close to 100% dodge in late game. Aspect of lucifer, if you get triple bomb, u can very quickly cast 6 bombs in succession, which if they all hit a target do 600 base damage, which can easily be boosted to 1k plus with boons.
@sigh7310
@sigh7310 3 жыл бұрын
5:20 actually, instead of 2 hits, you get 7 hits, because it’s 5 “bonus” hits
@gojifox5698
@gojifox5698 3 жыл бұрын
It becomes a nuke that eats bosses alive with Artemis boon + Doom
@dragonexer1
@dragonexer1 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the witches miniboss fight is probably the game's hardest room outside of the final boss and maybe the enhanced theseus/asterius fight. I love the aspect of talos for how much easier it makes the witches to deal with when they hide over the lava.
@Eddricc
@Eddricc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I have been saving blood the past few days waiting for this video, I wanted to use knuckles but I was not sure about what aspect to "buy". Now I have a better understanding of each weapon and can choose a fun and reliable aspect. I really like the format of your videos, explaining with some detail, showing the hammers that you are talking about, solid S tier!
@Kgoku4
@Kgoku4 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work bro. Found you after I picked up the game and started playing. It does my heart good after all these years to see Supergiant games thriving and continually one upping themselves like this. Keep up the good work and maybe Ill tag along on the live stream sometime.
@Emil-Roma
@Emil-Roma 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned one of the best things about the Lucifer Rail: the fact that it has crazy customization with hammers. If you ask me, the two best ones are the the one that makes you start firing faster, combined with the one that makes your damage ramp up more quickly. But you can take it even further with the great amount of options.
@timnewton-howes5206
@timnewton-howes5206 Жыл бұрын
Rail is the only one I dont know so well. Glad to know this
@daywalker3735
@daywalker3735 Жыл бұрын
I tried that aspect for the first time today and even though my initial thoughts of it were that I hated it, I was still able to beat Hades lol
@calincoza7490
@calincoza7490 5 ай бұрын
eternal chamber>>
@JamiesonKnowsBest
@JamiesonKnowsBest 3 жыл бұрын
love these videos, would love more discussion on builds and why they work so well, or maybe a guide on what you need to exert more control over runs where you have a specific build type in mind. great videos though man, your doin satans work here and its comendable
@robinbautista529
@robinbautista529 3 жыл бұрын
Switching reload to pushing into the left stick is another good option. Your thumb is always on the left stick, and you can buffer the reload to a dash easier.
@matthewpopow6647
@matthewpopow6647 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Hestia rail. It makes me feel like Arnold Swarzenager.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's so good! You should check out my commando run from like... December or January. I even put Arnold on the thumbnail 😂
@jamesverner9132
@jamesverner9132 3 жыл бұрын
Come ON! GET TO THE CHARIOT!
@matthewpopow6647
@matthewpopow6647 3 жыл бұрын
Zagrius dies in front of persephone: I'll be...back. *sinks into river styx with thumbs up*
@aureliodeprimus8018
@aureliodeprimus8018 3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul My first trial of the Lucifer Rail. Poseidons knockback on the orb. It was actually quite funny trapping foes in corners or dead ends because the Orb pulse knockbacks.^^
@TheDiplomat9
@TheDiplomat9 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty new to Hades and your guides have really helped me dive into the game head first. Thank you for taking the time to create these videos.
@degreeskelvin3025
@degreeskelvin3025 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this abt 5 hours ago. Found your previous video on aspect tier list so that was helpful. Thanks for the hard work dude
@ItheauthorityI
@ItheauthorityI 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I absolutely melt with the Hestia rail and Artemis attack. Triple bomb is super sick too. For my aiming, I just hit the button without touching the joystick to center on an enemy. I agree it is super funky if you try to aim.
@JohnKekoa1231
@JohnKekoa1231 3 жыл бұрын
The legend returns. Lovin all your guide videos
@nikitachumachenko3412
@nikitachumachenko3412 3 жыл бұрын
Aspect of demeter with hadooken hammer upgrade is so fun, it launches like 10 shots
@daeity1
@daeity1 3 жыл бұрын
also, it can get relatively broken with artic blast & her legendary.
@naeonixion
@naeonixion 3 жыл бұрын
I got this combo with Poseidon. Shenanigans.
@valeriomattera7277
@valeriomattera7277 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great videos! I tried a few of your build and I liked almost all of them. I have slightly different opinions about some of the aspects, but in general I agree with your rating. Again, great contents!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@heytampon
@heytampon 3 жыл бұрын
Hey paul. Thanks for all your work. I've found it really helpful with my runs. Keep it up bud.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lewis, glad you're finding them helpful!
@jasonjarmoosh
@jasonjarmoosh 3 жыл бұрын
I hated the rail for so long and then ended getting my first escape with it lol. Basically doom on special with the hammer that shoots 5 bombs
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@s.d.m.g5244
@s.d.m.g5244 3 жыл бұрын
The one where it damages you but does more damage seems bad but it got me my first clear, in my opinion it’s op
@Fallen4theFallen2
@Fallen4theFallen2 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to get the rail, but when I finally did it wasn't as great as I expected. But I've beat my second run with it by using the multiple special bombs. It has grown on me, especially in regards to the special.
@bengalf
@bengalf 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, man! Great as always
@nathanaelwilkinson7969
@nathanaelwilkinson7969 3 жыл бұрын
Love the guides thanks for updating for 1.0!!
@colossusslayer1234
@colossusslayer1234 3 жыл бұрын
gotta say one of my favorite things is gilgamesh fists with Athena on the dash and Aphro on the special, possibly with Artemis somewhere (attack probs) for the 2 duo boons if im lucky. you get the damage reduction from weak and the deflects on dash for defense to balance out the damage boost on maime, and you just do crazy damage. You can just utterly ruin EM4.
@willnelson9906
@willnelson9906 2 жыл бұрын
or, if you wanna destroy healthbars, merciful end is a classic,
@jck4482
@jck4482 3 жыл бұрын
JP, for Demeter Aspect, you still get 5 hits for the dash-upper when it's charged up. It's kind of finicky but it still works. One of the best combos is to get the hammer that makes your dash-upper explosive and you end up melting anything with 5 explosions plus your boon's effects.
@panh141298
@panh141298 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was either updated or he got it wrong. If anything its even stronger since the base for dash upper is 40 vs upper's 30 twice, so adding 5 times makes its 240 while the upper would be 210
@Kmaaq
@Kmaaq 3 жыл бұрын
I re-mapped the controls for the rail to have the reload as R1 and it was a big improvement. Edit: I just saw that you did that!
@gunzales76
@gunzales76 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who's been interested in hades for a long while and plans to get into the game once they won't be broke, these videos are really helpful and nice to watch. cheers!
@sirbrokkoli5309
@sirbrokkoli5309 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who usually has no issues with looking up online help for games I play: don't spoil yourself too much :-D After over 40 hours and 60 runs, I'm still constantly unlocking new things on so many levels (story, character dialogues, weapon variations, new items, skills, difficulty options, finding new builds, maybe more I'm forgetting rn) and it's so much fun to discover those myself.
@bigrat4780
@bigrat4780 3 жыл бұрын
I love using the fists. it felt so natural when I first tried it. Not my favourite weapon, but it's really so fun to use.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It actually took me a while to learn, but man, now it feels so good
@Copier777
@Copier777 3 жыл бұрын
One of my best runs with Luci aspect was when I got Demeter's attack boon and a boon that makes fully chilled enemies explode, dealing damage to that foe and everyone around them.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@obeserob5027
@obeserob5027 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing Hades since the switch version dropped and every time I beat the final boss I've had the twin fists(I've only beaten him 5 times). Feels very good to use on switch at least
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Fists are amazing!
@rpuchulu
@rpuchulu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guides! So useful 💜
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@lionward8634
@lionward8634 3 жыл бұрын
These videos have been very helpful. Been playing since very early access back in... I think it was December or January of 2018? And I still haven't gotten all weapon aspects (I haven't grinded the game too hard yet, don't judge me!), so seeing Lucifer's for example is a pleasant surprise. Seems like the kind of aspect I'd spend time trying to see if I can get an optimal run just for funsies. Yay for theory crafting!
@shannonhill3356
@shannonhill3356 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect, thank you sir!!
@luciano.armani
@luciano.armani 3 жыл бұрын
these 3 videos were superb and gave a lot of clarity =).
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Oh thanks!
@terps710
@terps710 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Eris is S tier. That bonus damage is so nasty!
@Lerithan
@Lerithan 3 жыл бұрын
“Man, you just got some bear claws on the ends of your hands” - JP, 2020
@jdoc8701
@jdoc8701 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to finish it lol
@USMCArchAngel03
@USMCArchAngel03 3 жыл бұрын
I wished I would have watched this before I spent all that blood lol!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! You'll get more! :)
@johnpellerito5045
@johnpellerito5045 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content man, do you have your full aspect Tier list written out anywhere? I often find myself going back to your videos and fast forwarding to find what you ranked a certain aspect when I’m deciding what to unlock. My memory isn’t too great lately!
@tanner7358
@tanner7358 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, I'm loving your content on this fantastic game. One thing U wanted to add to what you said, Aspect of Gilgamesh also has a unique rapid dash attack to go with the rapid dashes. So you can just hold down dash and attack and it basically gives you Wolverine's berserker barrage from Marvel vs Capcom. You can absolutely destroy enemies sooo fast by just dashing and attacking around them constantly. It's probably the most fun weapon in the game, imho.
@theamunra
@theamunra 3 жыл бұрын
I just did my first ever escape yesterday... with the fists, yay!
@theamunra
@theamunra 3 жыл бұрын
I got a hammer upgrade, where my dash-strike did pierce and 900% damage against armor, which was sooo handy.
@Taum1024
@Taum1024 3 жыл бұрын
You forget one thing about Lucifer. Your enemy can detonate your special. You don’t have to attack it; it can be attacked. I like to use it as a counter and it’s pretty reliable that way.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I don't know that I had noticed that! 🤯
@toefu6182
@toefu6182 3 жыл бұрын
I found a fun playstyle with Fist with Aspect of Talos where if you have the mini stun fog, you place it near you then pull enemies near you to stun them then backstab to death.
@minimotherogue
@minimotherogue Жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me how to fist and rail
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Haha
@paulblade6064
@paulblade6064 2 жыл бұрын
love your videos
@NimbusMcbuttsecks
@NimbusMcbuttsecks 3 жыл бұрын
Aspect of zagreus for the fists is great, especially when you have the lambent plume, because you can focus on getting boons and hammers early in the game instead of chasing max hp
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah dodge builds are definitely fun!
@VincentJGoh
@VincentJGoh 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's no way it should be ranked so low. 15% outright damage mitigation? A chance to be missed by really big attacks? Even with just a little Lambent Plume and then Ruthless Reflex, you don't have to worry about getting caught out nearly so much, especially with bosses.
@TerranIV
@TerranIV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going through these weapons. They are SO expensive to upgrade that it is good to have more info on what we are paying for with our precious Titan's blood.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped you choose what you liked!
@bearwithme9717
@bearwithme9717 2 жыл бұрын
You're the best man. Thank you so much.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the comment!
@marceloperettikuhn4764
@marceloperettikuhn4764 3 жыл бұрын
Great content!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcelo!
@rogerchandler2241
@rogerchandler2241 3 жыл бұрын
Cool will try once get them
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy! 😁
@The_Gnome_Chomskee
@The_Gnome_Chomskee 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Aspect of Talos dropped From S to A. Honestly I’m actually a big fan of Demeter’s Aspect
@phaerlax
@phaerlax 3 жыл бұрын
What I love about the Lucifer aspect is that the hellfire orb pulses actually stagger enemies, which can be very helpful given that the basic attack of the rail doesn't do that
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good point!
@martingoguen3131
@martingoguen3131 3 жыл бұрын
man the dodge chance on the fists are great, with hermes' keepsake, a few of his boons and the dodge chance mirror upgrade you can easily get close to 100% dodge chance witch is bonkers
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's multiplicative, not additive, but still! The dodge chance is crazy!
@crossbladevi
@crossbladevi 2 жыл бұрын
before even watching this video i tried the fist talos aspect with Poseidon special...it was my first fist run that i won...very fun
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Makebloodborne2
@Makebloodborne2 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that using a Aphrodite boon on the aspect of Gilgamesh attack to help mitigate the damage bonus the enemies get from maim, plus the bonus damage percentage. Very excited to get that aspect. Fully agree about the rail. I play on switch, it’s just a bit awkward to aim the special specifically Edit: wow that advice about the reload mapping is super helpful thanks for that part!
@chronic6428
@chronic6428 3 жыл бұрын
I would even advice to use L3 and not L1, this way you have one less finger to move, it's even more efficient.
@Gorillars
@Gorillars 6 ай бұрын
Needed some help with the fists, thank you
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 6 ай бұрын
Glad to be of service! Good luck in your runs!
@nathanlowe5346
@nathanlowe5346 3 жыл бұрын
These are my two favorite weapons!
@tnewton7834
@tnewton7834 2 жыл бұрын
Best (looking) combo I've ever got it using magnetic cutter (aspect of Talos) with that poseidon boons that (as you mentioned) special pushes enemies back and the hoon that does more damage throwing enemies into walls. Pin an enemy in a corner and then just repeatedly pull them to you and smash them into the walls. Deal MASSIVE damage and stun lock. Dear god was it GLORIOUS in Styx!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
Very fun!
@KainDizengarth
@KainDizengarth 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't unlocked the Lucifer aspect yet, but it looks so fun ♥
@thomasroberts2960
@thomasroberts2960 3 жыл бұрын
After playing with the fists a bunch the past few days...one thing I realized with the Aspect of Talos is the EZ wallbangs and backstabs you can get with it...If you get an enemy on the other side of a small gap in the map and just Uppercut them, it pulls them into the gap and gives the wallslam bonus plus backstabs over and over and they can't hit you...Its kind of nice
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's super good!
@spyrosdedes3145
@spyrosdedes3145 3 жыл бұрын
playing with the aspect of eris reminds me of draven LOL
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! right, catching the bombs! I get it!
@ciaranpatrick6859
@ciaranpatrick6859 3 жыл бұрын
I love just absolutely beefing up my special with Demeter, like getting chaos boons and Artemis boons, and then dealing 1000+ damage per special. I love aspect of Demeter.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Demeter is amazing!
@xakannax
@xakannax 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW Fist aspect of zag is really nice with Lambent Plume for keepsake, you can easily stack 50-70% plus dodge in a run esp if hermes gives you 10-20% more along way. Since you are almost always dash striking anyway it means you basically never take damage (can get reflect on dash too and like recovery/sturdy if you want).
@ashb712
@ashb712 3 жыл бұрын
My fav daedalus for fists is the one that changes your special into a flying kick that charges toward a nearby enemy. Combine this with an boon that adds a DoT aoe explosion where you land to your special (like hangover or chill) and you can just spam Y, automatically landing kicks on enemies and making an explosion of DoTs on everything nearby. Crowd control king.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@rizkisahputra6272
@rizkisahputra6272 3 жыл бұрын
You know what. After 20 attempt and one victory i just discover that you can upgrade your weapon like this 😭 . Thanks to your video...
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
You bet! Upgrading those weapons really helps!
@begejekan1244
@begejekan1244 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got my first win using the fists, which is surprising because I rarely use it. Demeter fists is definitely really good
@brandonscruton8865
@brandonscruton8865 2 жыл бұрын
On my first time using the aspect of lucifer I beat the secret boss (avoided name to avoid spoiler) after getting the hammer that let's you fire the special 3 times in a row and nothing else, only lost 1 death defiance, fell in love with it right then
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah! That's a tough fight! Getting out with only losing one DD is pretty good!
@ben_aquatico
@ben_aquatico 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 3 жыл бұрын
When I use the rail, I rebind the controls to shoot with R2 and reload to X so I can press reload at the same time as dash.
@zekeperez5623
@zekeperez5623 3 жыл бұрын
The tips you gave for the fists is literally how I already play
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
😮
@doktorarkham1439
@doktorarkham1439 3 жыл бұрын
Try Athena on Special with Lucifer Aspect. You can very easy make a wall of deflection that wrecks ranged enemies.
@XDefinitive
@XDefinitive 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@jamesking4736
@jamesking4736 3 жыл бұрын
So with the firsts the boons you want are zues, Artemis or aries, more so if your going for the cutter, for Aries your going to want the Athena dodge to pair with merciful end. For the rail I like the first and last forms the best, the dps on the attack really outshines the special and works well with a merciful end combo, the damage with lucifer and merciful end can really stack up with the use of the infinite ammo upgrade and the faster fire rate upgrade, you be able to get around 1000 damage per doom trigger
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds nuts!
@graceN0TE
@graceN0TE 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, am I weird for actually liking R3 for reload? Hahaha. Though, I re-binded my Dash to L1 instead (muscle memory from Gungeon) and felt it was easier to do slide inputs for Dash -> Attack, Dash -> Special, or even slide inputting a Dash -> Reload. I always felt weird about keeping my dash on O, haha. Great video as always, Paul!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Never weird! I just couldn't get used to it! Great to see you gracenote!
@Squidglows
@Squidglows 25 күн бұрын
As someone that mains the twin fists, the special is great if you are using the damage control condition on the pact of punishment cause it hits twice, and I like to use colossal knuckle (sturdy when attacking/using special) and draining cutter (heal small hp when you kill enemy with special) because you are up close most of the time so you will get hit and the healing is nice
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 14 күн бұрын
Definitely! Good points!
@ceph8976
@ceph8976 3 жыл бұрын
I know it sounds weird but I sometimes remap so that the shoot button is the trigger and the reload as the old attack place because that’s what I’m used to for a shooting weapon.
@supinearcanum
@supinearcanum 3 жыл бұрын
Zag fist is great if you are running Lambent Plume and are looking to either build high dodge or are new and really want to clear Hades for the 1st time. The free 15% helps give you the cover to focus targets down and start racking up plume buffs, and after Tartarus can basically help you become a snowball. After that just focus on Athena or Zeus buffs for your basic for room clears and you can really start cooking. Also, chaos boons for basic attacks. After that though, Hermes boons for atk speed and dodge make you nuts.
@brockberrick2727
@brockberrick2727 3 жыл бұрын
you are awesome man
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Right back at you Money Man!!! 👍
@alestremeviktora5218
@alestremeviktora5218 3 жыл бұрын
My first completed run was with the Aspect of Eris Rail, and oh boy it was hysterical First I got a hammer upgrade that made my special fire 5 cluster bombs Then I got another upgrade that replaces the normal bombs with ROCKETS So now I'm just dashing all over the place lobbing 5 rockets at a time every couple seconds
@UnderplayedCreations
@UnderplayedCreations 3 жыл бұрын
I call that the Jihadi build. Holy crap is it fun. Still not as good as Eris though.
@cobisss
@cobisss 3 жыл бұрын
Reload on R3 is a viable option, then you can use your L1 to remap dodge, so you can dash-upper a lot easier with gauntlets
@adamchristou5560
@adamchristou5560 3 жыл бұрын
thank you thnk you thank you!
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@shannonhill3356
@shannonhill3356 3 жыл бұрын
Also! Aspect of Eris is great, but DON'T pick up the 300% empowered ticket that can hurt you, or you somewhat lose your ability to boost power (unless you wanna take a ton of damage)
@shannonhill3356
@shannonhill3356 3 жыл бұрын
I'll just equip another aspect if I want to have super powerful bombs
@paulos9900
@paulos9900 Жыл бұрын
I had a lot of fun using Aspect of Talos with the following boons: Thempest flourish (knockback and extra damage on special) Poseidon Typhoon's Fury (extra damage from knocking enemies into barriers) Poseidon Breaking Wave (watery blast around enemy when they get knocked into barriers) Poseidon On none boss enemies the special pulls enemies towards you and then knocks them away, ideally into a barrier where they then explode and damage other nearby enemies.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
That is a lot of fun! Currently breaking wave is one of my favorite secondary boons to use
@Iiphaedos
@Iiphaedos 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking about control bindings. Personally I put dash on my right trigger/R1 and swapped interact to A or Square. Call went to right bumper/R1. Seems like a better setup to me.
@Iiphaedos
@Iiphaedos 3 жыл бұрын
Meant dash on right trigger/R2. I'm too lazy to get off mobile so I'm not editing my comment
@leonkool123
@leonkool123 3 жыл бұрын
The aspect of Lucifer is an S+ for me, somehow it just really works for my play style. If you like to play safe and plan your attack, this weapon is amazing. I’ve had a run where I lost only 15hp to Hades and finished him so quickly at 17 heat level
@mikeamarilio
@mikeamarilio 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else use the grenade on rail as a reload? Just run your clip down to empty, fire the grenade, and the reload timer starts as you're in the animation for the launch. By the time you recover, you have a full clip.
@purplelotus531
@purplelotus531 3 жыл бұрын
The Aspect of demeter is probably my favorite of all weapons in the game bc if you get the hammer upgrade "Explosive upper:Your Dash-Upper deals +100% damage in an area" it just nukes every single thing in the game, specially with a %bonus dmg on special boon. Its just insta win.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds fun!
@andrewettenger1863
@andrewettenger1863 3 жыл бұрын
I got zeus’s special on aspect of y’all’s for the fists and was destroying things left and right
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@baka_ja_nai
@baka_ja_nai 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you on default reload button mapping being ridiculously bad. Pressing right stick is so inconvenient - I mapped codex to L3.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! A swap is definitely in order!
@brianfox340
@brianfox340 3 жыл бұрын
My god, I'm getting Aspect of Eris immediately.
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite good! 😊
@DrGandW
@DrGandW 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could move while shooting that’d be a really cool upgrade
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Totally! Dash attack is your friend!
@bloodtingeproto
@bloodtingeproto 3 жыл бұрын
Aspect of Demeter does affect the dash upper. I did a run the other night with explosive upper hammer and it multiplied the amount of explosions
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct!
@jordanbluett1308
@jordanbluett1308 3 жыл бұрын
I find that for the Rail, aspect of Zagreus pairs super well with Zeus attack. In fact Zeus attack in general goes great with the Rail for all aspects. For the Gilgamesh fists, how viable do you think an Ares special or attack would pair with it? Sort of like a hit and run strategy to let doom and maimed do the heavy lifting.
@TheClue11
@TheClue11 3 жыл бұрын
I like how every video starts with that scary, heavy metal tentacle logo then immediately cuts to him politely saying "Greetings friends!"
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
haha, that's how we roll! metal AND manners 😂
@reachingvalhalla5096
@reachingvalhalla5096 3 жыл бұрын
I actually play with controller and love the rail. I mapped every single key differently though, to help me have cleaner gameplay. shot on R2, Special on L2, cast on L1 and reload on X. dash is on A. It basically feels like I am playing a shooter game. The only difficould thing was getting used to aim the special, but after 30+ runs it kinda became muscle memory. And I`m picking rockets anyway whenever I find that to be the Daedalus choice.
@colinclement2752
@colinclement2752 2 жыл бұрын
I find the moose knuckle to be the best hammer for the fists
@EmBiOi
@EmBiOi 3 жыл бұрын
I reached the surface for the first time using Eris so it'll forever have a special place in my Hades heart
@JawlessPaul
@JawlessPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Eris is pretty amazing it's true! 😊
@williamfoell7927
@williamfoell7927 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that the aspect of gilgamesh, yeah the attack does good damage, but there isnt a dash attack with the weapon there is a dash upper but not dash attack
@Zolototo
@Zolototo 3 жыл бұрын
my first escape was with aspect of talos it was very fun I just dash punched everything to death
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