I know this video is old but I'm just getting into Hades and this is super useful.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it's been helpful!
@WillowMoonlight5554 жыл бұрын
Ditto! I just got my first escape and then it was all 'what the hell is this?!'. I feel slightly less bitter about it now lol
@stephenallen32743 жыл бұрын
Same deal here
@Guapogiboy3 жыл бұрын
Just finally killed Hades 47 tries later so now this will be useful
@chasem35493 жыл бұрын
Pique
@ezergilechimekazikura68554 жыл бұрын
Also about heightened security: Hades's vases leaving green handy goo wich is considered (at least as far as I can tell) to be a trap, so with heightened security You just give Hades ultimate cheese 120 damage wild card.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, very scary! Good point!
@MsRegPhalange2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this. I didn't even realize that was considered a trap and was wondering why I was having such a hard time.
@ezergilechimekazikura68552 жыл бұрын
@@MsRegPhalange You're welcome!
@skarmius454 жыл бұрын
As someone who's coming up to 80 hours of Hades, these guides still peak my interest if only to hear the opinions of others.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
It's cool to hear from all of you as well! There are a lot of great players with awesome insights!
@nos6763 жыл бұрын
This is quite interesting indeed
@charliethecockatoo21593 жыл бұрын
Gentle reminder that mountains have peaks and interests are _piqued_ ;3
@TheGrouch914 жыл бұрын
Before they buffed forced overtime I actually felt that it was worse than hard labor. I usually play very methodical so I try to not go ham on everything and dodge more etc so I didn't have much trouble with the extra damage. However the extra speed is so jarring even at rank 1 (10% back then) I got hit all the time. But once you reach higher heats you are almost forced to take tight deadline and forced overtime as everything else does not only make the game harder but actually makes it less fun, like no choice and underworld customs. Even though it is the most effective I still don't like tight deadline and forced overtime as they transform your playstyle in a certain way. You are pretty much forced to go apeshit on everything and I'm just not a fan of that type of reckless playstyle. Hell I've seen most people just facetank Hades in the end because killing him faster negates more damage than trying to dodge.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I hear you! It can take the finesse out of it! Finesse was never really my strong suit... 😂
@abelincoln18664 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul so much for heightened security aswell, huh 😃
@kamilslup7743 Жыл бұрын
Heightened is a joke, just like the 1st tier of tight deadline, as only slow runs would exceed the 9 minute per region limit
@zweavill4 жыл бұрын
As someone just getting into the heat mechanics this was really helpful. Thanks very much for the analysis!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@Cornbinks2 жыл бұрын
Extreme Measures is notable in making the boss fights significantly more fun! Less a punishment and more a reward than the others.
@kamilslup7743 Жыл бұрын
Punishment if you're bad with some bosses (mainly heroes of elysium and hades)
@alexwansss4 жыл бұрын
That's right, of course you remember how much damage purple arrows do hahahaha Though it makes Athena's Sure Footing a lot more appealing
@DonPetexX4 жыл бұрын
Sure footing also works for hades jars
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Sure footing got way better when they released Styx and the Hades fight
@jumpingjackgaming88023 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these tips, I just beat Hades for the first time last night. It took me 39 tries it was so awesome to get through. With the heat guide it changes the game so much. The replay ability is endless, characters dialogue continues to go on. This is by far one of the best games ever!!!
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
It's an amazing game! Glad these helped!
@kamilslup7743 Жыл бұрын
How to make heightened security managable: Stay mindful of the map's layout Alterative option: Sure Footing boon from athena Changes from the future: budget cuts is gone, we got 4th extreme measures, now hades has a 3rd phase. Also no choice has been renamed to approval process, which also affects item choice in wells of charon and tight deadline can now go as low as 5 minutes per region
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@arvandor68204 жыл бұрын
I like to take the mechanics based ones first as well, like extreme measures, middle management, and forced overtime, just because they're ones I feel like you're eventually going to need to get used to, so you may as well practice it earlier before you have to really start making things tough. There's a lot of weapon aspect dependent nuances to heat choice later on, but yeah, early on those are good ones to get used to. Edit: Also, I used to always take heightened security, but... I'm pretty sure the green flasks on the Hades fight are affected, and they HUUUUURRRRRTTTT
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
No doubt! I am pretty sure now that heightened security is a... ahem... trap 🤓
@Freezecr4 жыл бұрын
So that's why I never felt confident about taking tight deadline, I have been using calisthenics program for a while and never thought that that was the reason it was taking so long. Thanks for bringing that up, loved the list.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! Someone mentioned how crippling it is in the comments a week or so ago when I was doing 32 heat runs.
@MichaelBTucker4 жыл бұрын
This content is a knock out of the park. I would love to see more of this, not just hades.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment! I am planning to get about 1 guide or curated video a week in addition to my regular run videos.
@inkdelete3 жыл бұрын
I tried Calisthenics Program once thinking, "Oh, it's probably not a big deal"-I swear, I will never do it again. Even if you rank it up just once it takes longer to finish even one chamber, especially in Elysium :( I managed to escape that run but it was such a drag. Never Again 😭
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty rough...
@Laezar13 жыл бұрын
I think the worst part is how it makes small ennemy over damage threshold you're used to. Like, those skulls in tartarus, not killing them in 1hit feels so bad and make them soooo much harder to deal with.
@francocoscarelli47124 жыл бұрын
at last i killed Hades, now working my way with heat, great guide. Loved extreme measure, only tried for the furys, such cool change for the game. I would love something like this in enter the gungeon
@Gerry90000004 жыл бұрын
Excellent guide. I'm sitting at about 7 heat on my runs lately and getting used to Forced Overtime is really challenging me - it feels like the biggest turn of the difficulty dial. I think Damage Control might be the best alternative since it also doesn't have the same high level of punishment that Hard Labor does, but I think I'd get used to that more easily. That said, it is very loadout dependent
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Good point. I think some weapons are definitely better for certain heat conditions
@Seyiall4 жыл бұрын
For me, Budget Cuts is THE worst option, because even a single point cuts you off from so many benefits and makes your runs just feel weaker overall. Also, if you want to take it, you have to run back to your mirror first and fiddle with it and consider a whole other slew of options of how to make your run harder - almost like another pact of punishment. I find this to be neither well designed nor balanced.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I dislike it very much. I only use it when I am going super high heat
@blexorcist37924 жыл бұрын
Whilst you may dislike it, some players might not be interested in the shop. This option isn't meant for ALL players, it's meant for SOME players. It is a dramatically different play-style to the norm, but some players might like that. I personally don't run it, but I have been tempted! It's still too early game for me to consider running an "anti-gold" build. Basically I'm just trying to say is the option IS well designed, it's just for a more specific audience that helps broadens Hades appeal :-)
@hamyman354 жыл бұрын
@@blexorcist3792 he said " for me" so everything you said is redundant. unless he edited that in.
@blexorcist37924 жыл бұрын
@@hamyman35 I'm refuting the claim that the perk is "not to be well designed nor balanced", not their personal opinion! Anyone and everyone is entitled to that :-)
@MichaelAW174 жыл бұрын
Im shocked you dont have more subs and views. So easy to listen to.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you to say, sir!
@gumballz.92594 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Heat system is that it's still in development and get tinkered around the most out of all the game features I would say. Who knows? Maybe next patch will have a 4th lv of Extreme Measure and completely redo this heat system... again.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I imagine it will all get revamped again. Could still be improved!
@CODkiller804 жыл бұрын
This aged incredibly well
@FloraAnneFauna4 жыл бұрын
i always use calesthenics that's why i never clear in less than 25 minutes lmao
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, calisthenics is rough for bosses especially
@veritascalivmeir37084 жыл бұрын
Tbh from a game design perspective I really hate Lasting Consequences maxing out at 100% because it ends up turning off a large part of the game and making a lot of the boons and a few keepsakes do effectively nothing if not actually nothing. it gets even worse with Approval Process imo, nothing is lamer than going for, say, a Demeter boon, and then being forced to take 0% heal with 0% bonus healing because the other options are unavailable.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
There are some. Effects that aren't reduced by lasting consequences. For instance stubborn defiance becomes a once per room heal, guan you spin attack still heals, Hermes dash heal still works. It requires a different playstyle for sure!
@TheLevelGrinders4 жыл бұрын
I think we need an updated version of this for 1.0 :)
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
It's on the "to-do" list! :)
@gmeek18224 жыл бұрын
No Choice is soul crushing because it shows you what you are missing out on.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@ezergilechimekazikura68554 жыл бұрын
And finally worth mentioning, that on Hell mode you have exclusive unremovable pact of having no I-frames aside from dash, Broken Spearpoint and Athena's boons.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Very true! I will do a vid on the difference between god mode normal mode and hell mode some day!
@CarlYota6 ай бұрын
Forced overtime is weird for me. At my current skill level and play style, I notice that Hyper Sprint (faster after dodging) increases my win rate dramatically. It makes the game much easier for me and the Hades fight almost trivial. Forced overtime is the opposite effect. It makes me slower in relation to the enemies (mainly thinking hades here). I’ve never lost to hades so quickly as when I put on forced overtime. Maybe FO plus hyper sprint would even out but FO without HS means I can’t seem to avoid anything hades does. Again given my play style and skill level HS is one the my most highly sought after boons. I’d rather run calisthenics and use powerful builds than effectively running anti hyper sprint. I’m sure as I get better this will change but you don’t get to practice hades that much since he’s at the end of the run.
@JawlessPaul5 ай бұрын
Yeah. FO isn't something I use very often anymore. Just feels too punishing 😜
@Ortex3132 жыл бұрын
The one that increases trap and magma damage is absolutely brutal when you get to the second phase of the Hades fight. Getting caught by the green arms is basically an immediate death sentence.
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy, I almost never take it. Even at 40 heat
@Freezecr4 жыл бұрын
I agree with basically everything, and I think that the reason hard labor and lasting consequences are so crushing is because it punishes you for bad RNG. A bad build happens sometimes and I fell those 2 pacts capitalize on that. This is my personal opinion but I think the extreme measures pact is more fun, I just get bored of the base bosses now.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I don't like any pact that makes my runs feel less in my control.
@sorry9876543213 жыл бұрын
Man, I was so disappointed: I just beat hades for the first time yesterday and I thought that the story continues like: demeter has frozen the world and now you can literally turn on the heat in hell to thaw the glaciers outside. That would have been sooo cool! Anyway, thanks for the video! Really helpful stuff!
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
That would have been cool!
@sorry9876543213 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul well, at least that's how the story in my headcanon goes. In my runs so far the build up and foreshadowing was just to perfect : D
@dalibosch50282 жыл бұрын
I use hightened security because if you walk on lava and stumble into traps then wtf are you doing, lol ;)
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
LOL whatever floats yer boat!
@LordGriffith4 жыл бұрын
I just beat Hades last night at about escape 23~25 so this guide comes right on time. Gotta say this game is great for all the obvious reasons but also because of the way this system complements so well the upgrades you can unlock as you play the game. I had just 2 death defiances + Skelly and made the mistake of unlocking God's Favor (is this what more epic boon % prob. is called?) before Privileged Status...so I can see the game being quite easier than what I managed to clear given the upgrades you can achieve (didn't have an aspect or summon unlocked either). Gotta say the one you play with (faster enemies) seems a bit intimidating specially for stix where I felt some rooms could get a bit uncontrollable with the poison thing...do you use it maxed? 😥 Without having used any of the pact yet I'm curious about what the bounties are since they're question marks, I wish you had mentioned something about what we can look for but you probably had people who had already used the system in mind. At the moment just one heat is recommended to me but idk if increasing the heat will give me better rewards or if I have to go "step by step" increasing as the game suggests... All in all a great guide, your content is great man! I'm the 35 year old who asked about your white beard front in your most recent stream in twitch 😜 Gotta say if you keep it up I can see your stream growing and getting big so keep the grind up. Hades is amazing and the way you make content and interact with chat has potential to generate a great, even bigger community. May need to add a bit more of variety maybe within the roguelike genre (Spelunky 2 is coming soon wink wink) but to me it looks like you could grow a lot. KZbin guides like these can give you the notoriety you need for that (this is how I found you) as you noticed on your last twitch stream. So anyway, thanks! And good luck with all of this!
@aaronli88434 жыл бұрын
So basically, the bounties from beating a run are total 2 Titan's Blood, from Tartarus and Styx, which is used to upgrade your weapon aspects. 1 Ambrosia, from Elysium, used to befriend specific NPCs. They give you special keepsakes which summon various abilities when you give them their first ambrosia. Ambrosia is also used to upgrade these special keepsakes. Special Keepsakes also don't conflict with regular keepsakes. 1 Diamond, from Asphodel, which are used at the House Contractor for music, the fishing rod and more. Increasing the heat past the requirement doesn't do anything beneficial bounty wise. You can for fun, but you don't have to. If you beat the run, the heat requirement goes up one again, so you don't get better or later bounties. I heard the heat cap for each weapon goes to twenty, then just darkness. If you try to collect previous bounties, they're replaced by darkness.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the kind words, and the question about my beard. Honestly, I feel like I don't talk about it enough on stream. 😂 I'm trying to do about a guide a week interspersed with my regular runs. The guides are fun, but a bit more work, as you might expect. As for the bounties, they are always the same: Titan's blood for Furies, Diamond for Hydra, Ambrosia for Theseus and Asterius, and Titan's blood again for Hades himself. If you die at any point, the bosses up to that point in the future will only offer darkness, so you have to do a full clear in order to get the bounties again, even if you up the heat even more. Hope that makes sense!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation!
@nenad00034 жыл бұрын
I find the fact that Lasting Consequences only gives 1 heat per rank, including the final one, is what makes it way to punishing for the cost. Maybe making it to 30% a rank and 3 total ranks, with an increase in the heat for the last rank would be better.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I agree 0 healing is super punishing
@boredgamer78413 жыл бұрын
"Extreme Measures" is then misleading as hell, fighting two bosses at once or fighting in a completely different room is not "new techniques". At least it changes the bosses in Elysium but it looks super cancer.
@ResandOuies3 жыл бұрын
I usually like to run a level of Jury Summons quite early. Until world 3 I don't feel that the normal room enemies are that punishing, and you get a bit of extra coin from the extra kills to. So not just a pure downside. But then I really dislike Tight Deadline so might be part of it. Those doesn't really mix.
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, tight deadline is MUCH easier to manage now though. Actually Jury Summons has become one that I max out when I try for 32 or 40
@oldboys894 жыл бұрын
the first level of jury summons is fine but the second is already too much if you want to get two levels of tight deadline. heightened security is so awful in Styx considering the layout of certain rooms and the fact that hades urns will deal 150 damage, it should give at least 2 heat. hard labor is manageable with some boons but it makes the game a lot harder especially beacause let's face it most people will get hit by bosses at least a few times
@LordGriffith4 жыл бұрын
Styx sounds scary with some of these yes...last night I was sitting pretty by Stix and made the mistake of opening an internal trove on a really ill layout-d room which spanned the whole room with rats which I couldn't kill fast enough and covered it with poison...may have ruined my run...lol
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Tartarus and Asphodel are OK but Elysium and Styx get pretty crazy
@Saifon20004 жыл бұрын
Loving the game, only picked it up, recently played 70 hours on it so far.. and almost 20 succesful playthroughs... your vid's have been super helpful... I do not watch the spoiler ones.. I do like to explore that myself.. I do have a query though about the Lasting Consequence... the hammer boon 'Draining Cutter' for the "dragon upcut' weapon.. :D.. I always shout that when using the special.. loving that weapon... so Streetfigher... anyways.. The boon heals +2 when killing with the special... does that still work with LC at max?
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I... think so? Don't know that I've tried it myself, but I now that Guan Yu's spin attack still heals if you have 100% lasting consequences. So does Hermes' dash heal boon.
@gumballz.92594 жыл бұрын
18:41 I would agree to disagree. Rail is one of the best weapon to deal with Damage Control with its Attack. The worst weapon to deal with it is the slow weapon like Spear, Bow or even Sword and its terrible animations.
@justaguy59234 жыл бұрын
Hes talking about if your focusing on the rail special, because all the mortars damage is frontloaded into a single instance of damage and its very slow. The primary fire has significantly lower range so going in to pop blue hearts with it is counterintuitive to the extreme range advantage the special gives you.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Good point, I meant the special when I was talking about the burst from special.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@IPman773 жыл бұрын
Just finished my first run and thought I was done....I guess not
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not!
@hazer32483 жыл бұрын
how in gods name do people play on 30 heat
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Pshhh, you should see the people who do 50 plus!
@daveyjonez68203 жыл бұрын
Just got this game on the Switch a couple weeks ago. Finally beat my first run a couple days ago, and was really confused on how bounties worked. Thanks for the vid!
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@mhasemore3 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure that forced overtime is one that you can "get used" to. There's a limit to reflexes after all, and it becomes a massive problem against bosses like Asterius and Hades when you have to get up close with a melee weapon.
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty tough but you would be surprised. Use that for a few runs and then go back. You will feel like enemies are crawling!
@purplatypus74054 жыл бұрын
This video is a great idea!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@muhsin71772 жыл бұрын
Damn i killed hades kinda early i guess now i am in trouble with this stuff...
@keiyangoshin36503 жыл бұрын
Heat. LoL how appropriate. Gotta love Supergames. I do. However, first I need to get to Hades. At some point. 36 attempts and counting. Then Heat. Because I can’t seem to put this game down lol. So thank you for the video! Stay safe.
@samanderson16502 жыл бұрын
Heightened Security is wayyy too punishing for only 1 heat. It should be 100% per rank. 400% is just absurd...or maybe I just need to git gud!
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
It's truly awful. I don't use it even with 40 heat runs
@jamesbrincefield98792 жыл бұрын
When I first turned on Forced Overtime (20%, not max) while playing a run with each of the pact of punishment options individually activated to see how it would go i actually thought my game was glitched because I noticed so little difference and checked it multiple times during the run to make sure. I’m not bragging or anything, I suck at the game. It just has that little effect overall.
@itzMoTioNZ954 жыл бұрын
I got the game recently and your vids have been super helpful thank you! Subbed
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@gaminggeckos43883 жыл бұрын
Extreme Measures now causes good ol' Lernie to break off of the neck that keeps it in the center of the arena, upon reaching 1/3rd health, when it summons it's second wave of heads. Makes it a good bit more difficult, but still manageable.
@imma52692 жыл бұрын
Ive been starting out by doing clears with tight deadline because I find it pretty easy to make it through within the 9min time limit. Kind of brutal that it goes down to mins on the second level though haha, so far my fastest clear was 28mins8seconds which would’ve been 8 seconds too slow. Thanks for another very useful video Edit: oh I just got to the part where you talk about tight deadline - that’s interesting, I assumed you just insta lost if you hit the time limit.
@trentdelozier5793 Жыл бұрын
I just beat the game for the 3rd time...after the first I was running the calisthenics program for my heat...now I know why those other wins took so long
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that can be rough! Good job with the W!
@The_Gnome_Chomskee4 жыл бұрын
So should I do a hell playthrough? I’m pretty far on regular difficulty and was wondering if hell was the way to go now.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Hell doesn't really add anything. You can add all the pact of punishment you need to a regular save file
@The_Gnome_Chomskee4 жыл бұрын
Very true. I suppose it would only be for bragging rights. Thanks for the guides!
@Megumi6464 жыл бұрын
How do you unlock more heat? Beating Hades again? I only killed him once so I can only get 1 heat.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you only have 1 heat?!? Once the pact of punishment opens up you can customize it before your run..
@namelessbacon94834 жыл бұрын
The more you beat him the more heat is required to keep earning rewards. You only need to get the heat gauge to 1 after beating him the first time. Then to 2 and then 3 for example
@Mr.BednaR3 жыл бұрын
I just got Heat runs... should I stray off with 1heat then 2 heat then 3 heat ...and so on? I think I started off 5 heat but Hades kicked my ass
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's up to you to experiment and try stuff out! The only thing I'd caution is don't put a bunch of extra damage on and also reduce your healing, those are a couple of the most dangerous ones. I'd try each of the extreme measures fights. Like, do a run with EM1, then a run with EM2 etc. It's fun to learn each of those fights. Just be ready to die a bunch while you're learning 😂
@outlaw27253 жыл бұрын
its so funny to me to see our opinions are almost total opposites... as someone who usually who sucks at games I find the ones you avoid all the time easier to get through :D I guess because I take my time going through the games
@fortresstraining2 жыл бұрын
Years later just getting into it. WOW what an amazing game.
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
I know! Insanely fun game! 😊
@johnanderson58532 жыл бұрын
Bro IV died over 343 times and IV done every single profacy every type of demand killed Hades *(46) times to be exact. And with every weapon on every level with each of those wepeans even after paying numerous blood Titans to open all of these weapons levels and I opened every single weapons-level but at every level of every weapon I used it to go through the game and beat Haley's with each weapon at each level now that's pretty hardcore not to mention I died over 300 something times but my question to you sir to the poster of this video and to anyone else that can help is there any cheat codes and I can put in to help me out to give me extra blood Titan blood or anyting something extra just because there's only hardcore work there's never any cheating and it's not like I'm online with other people I'm just on my own and my own game but I have no cheat codes maybe it's because it's a Xbox one S ! I dono. But any cheat code would be helpful at this point. ??
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
No cheat codes but have you tried turning on god-mode to make the experience easier? You could also install a mod of some kind. I'm not entirely sure how to do that though.
@johnanderson58532 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul thank you for the reply. No joke. And its ok i understand there just arnt cheats for this SPICIFIC Xbox. But its a very popular game Council ( XBOX ONE S) and there just arnt any cheats. Its crazy because on the computer labtop or whatever there are all kind as of cheats. And even for playstation 4 and 5. But not for this one!!!!??? Whyyyh. Why would they do this to us!! To me!! To my future baby moma! Lol no but realy this sux and its BS that there arnt cheats foe this xbox1!!! But thank you for the reply.
@prdprdprdprdprdel Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes.. The heightened security people.. "Just don't get hit, bro.. It's a free point..."
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Lol they are trolling for sure 😁
@rogerchandler22413 жыл бұрын
Was fun game but after beating lot in row even with other stuff think I'll trade mine in at game stop let some one else enjoy it
@Dangatv3 жыл бұрын
I just picked this up for ps5, yes I know this is an old video but man super helpful. Thank yoh
@joshuakhoo68744 жыл бұрын
So I started a game on Hard Mode. As in it's my only file, should I still add the same heat as this video?
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Well, you don't really have a choice. The first 5 heat are always the same on hard mode. If I were you though, I would switch to a regular save file. You will have more longevity with it... that is, if you are addicted to the game as I am! 😂
@joshuakhoo68744 жыл бұрын
Jawless Paul I'm gonna struggle through for a while, starting with the furies while I try to finish the prophecies then going to grind for sisyphus and resources. The only one I'm not sure how to handle at all is the time but I didn't realize speed affected spawn time so that should help, my two clears have been at 40 minutes but I think most of that is on Elysium, and I've been playing low apm except for boss fights to conserve mental/physical energy and just out of laziness cause I didn't figure out how legendary boon spawning worked til yesterday (only started a few days ago 46 hours in). Have you ever tried doing Perfect rooms while under time constraint? I'm thinking that's how I want to start with the broken spear point
@Jeffxblack Жыл бұрын
Just started playing after the reveal of Hades 2! You’ve been very helpful, I appreciated you sir!
@Napa2323....72 жыл бұрын
playing on ps5 for thge first time what a amazing game excellent video man very helpful
@catherinnec63392 жыл бұрын
I beat Hades yesterday. I wish somebody could explain this all to me In Finnish...
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Dang... I don't have any finish translation tools. I suppose you could pull up google translate?
@AmandaStein-l5w2 жыл бұрын
Is there an updated version of this? I seriously need some tips on what to choose for 32 heat lol
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Check out the video where Haelian talks me through 40 heat. A lot of great tidbits in there 😊
@kellynemecek5894 Жыл бұрын
I’m so bad at this game and have only beat hades like 5 times. I appreciate any help lol
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Good luck! You'll get it!
@BADASS6682 жыл бұрын
Lol a year later I’m new to actually playing the game but I hate Theseus with the shield
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the shield can be tough to deal with for sure! You have a few moments to attack him and then he pulls that shield back up again!
@keystonelyte5 ай бұрын
I know this is 4 years old, but I think its worth mentioning that Cursed Slash and Guan Yu both do heal with 100% Lasting Consequences.
@keystonelyte5 ай бұрын
Also, for me, Calisthenics Program and Jury Summons are basically the same pact, it just depends on what build I have. If I'm going for a single target build, I take Calisthenics Program. If I'm going for an AOE build, I take Jury Summons. It just makes sense.
@JawlessPaul5 ай бұрын
True! Also, the hermes boon that heals after you dash works even with lasting consequences.
@keystonelyte5 ай бұрын
@@JawlessPaul that's right! I almost never take it because I'm such a sucker for Rushed Delivery
@tabatha822 жыл бұрын
Super late comment but just wanted to say thank you for putting these guides together; for the first time since picking up the game I’m consistently making it to Hades (and escaping sometimes) but I’ve been overthinking how to increase the difficulty in ways that don’t make the game not fun to play anymore. I think I’m gonna start with Extreme Measures for the first 2 bosses and will take it from there.
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
@gabrielzarzuela7735 Жыл бұрын
So basically all the Heats are good because *eventually* ill get used to them. Got it
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Haha, yes I suppose that is true 😂 I would change my thoughts on the forced overtime, it is REALLY tough to get used to the higher speed. I almost never use it anymore and I'm able to do EM4 now much easier.
@MrBlackstargames3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch these videos I feel bad for using God mode because things like traps just don't affect me the same way as other people. Same thing with the extra damage since it's basically just playing the game normally
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Nah, no worries. Use it to learn the game and try turning it off after a bit, see how it feels!
@ianallen66192 жыл бұрын
Just adding the pact of punishment is already difficult as it is, I haven’t used it at all at the moment, played the game for over a week now, and I only passed it once. Love the game though, so fun.
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Totally! It takes a while to build up that heat tolerance 😂
@zacharywoloszynski42582 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! So far, my highest heat is 10, and by fastest run is 16 min
@empressfrozentoes5285 Жыл бұрын
wow I'm a newbie player, I've never even seen "budget cuts" before, and that 2 heat tight deadline is amazing, wish they never cut that down lol
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
Haha, those were the days! 🤣
@maximlacroix40132 жыл бұрын
After 21 runs I finally defeated Hades, now this shows up
@matthewbryant29723 жыл бұрын
This was super confusing when in another video you said this system was useful for collecting titan blood before beating Hades...
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
It's a both/and situation. You can get one blood per weapon at 0 heat without beating hades. If you want MORE blood you will need to beat Hades at that heat level and then raise it.
@danieldanieletto7734 Жыл бұрын
Just think from when you did this now there a 64 heat i think was is now done ✅
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
True! We live in crazy times!
@gamblingg0urmet4 жыл бұрын
Anyone have any tips on beating hades, I’ve been stuck ever since the big bad update released
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
For Hades, I'd say you need to watch videos and figure out his attack patterns. He has a few predictable moves, and you need to learn when you can dump a bunch of damage (ie he won't hit you) and when you need to dodge away. Additionally, I find there are some builds that are more faceroll than others. If you can get Dio or Zeus call, those help out a ton in the damage department. Aphrodite is nice to have on at least one of your tier 1 slots (other than call) so that you can get the 30% damage reduction. It is a tough fight for sure!
@ShinDSER4 жыл бұрын
Late response is late, but Ares' call fucking destroys Hades. You just stand on him for like 12 seconds and deal at least 1/3 of his HP bar. Also you can use it to dodge attacks you couldn't dodge in other ways, or for an ultimate bm, use the charged call when he does the laser circle. Ares' call bullies everything.
@missingn0o3 жыл бұрын
Have you beat him yet
@eloelo69442 жыл бұрын
1 tight deadlines is by far the easiest. It usually doesn't take more time than this anyway even when not trying to be quick
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
I've heard a lot of people struggling to finish quickly, but yeah, once you get a sense for the mechanics of things tight deadline is an easy point
@brainstormsurge1544 жыл бұрын
I would say get the prophecy of completing a run with each punishment and you'll understand what works and what doesn't.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
That could work!
@ezergilechimekazikura68554 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning, that, apparently, You can't rerun with the weapon on X amount of heat if You cleared the run already, making it an eventuality that You will be softlocked in a save file once You clear all weapons all the way up to 47 heat. Nota bene, this applies to hell mode save, normal save allows you to run itself after beating.
@Gerry90000004 жыл бұрын
It's a bit weird that you could potentially ruin your item collecting for a save by somehow completing on a high heat very early on. I feel like they need to implement a better system, like gaining multiple rewards for a big jump up in heat.
@TheGrouch914 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering how that worked. Makes it so that you really don't want to skip any heat when you want all the upgrades. You could technically ruin your save file completely if you were to run all weapons on full heat which is kinda stupid. Not that that would happen (hopefully) but it's something to consider.
@ezergilechimekazikura68554 жыл бұрын
@@Gerry9000000 but even then it does not solve more fundamental problem of the mode. If You can't rerun on a certain amount of heat, it means that eventually You'll softlock after reaching 30-ish heat, or however far You can go, and that's it, You won't be able to play on the save file anymore, because You can't break through on higher heat and are not allowed to try lower, so You just tryhard this amount You stuck on for eternity. And when You beat 47 heat and everything prior, You just quit. Seems not so rewarding of a mod.
@Gerry90000004 жыл бұрын
@@ezergilechimekazikura6855 that's definitely a more severe problem. Both need addressing separately
@LordGriffith4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, how have this not been brought up to the devs? This is something they definitely want to change...Gonna have to check the dev discussions forums on steam to see if this has been brought up to say something if not.
@aburton9993 Жыл бұрын
This helps a lot to understand what I’m taking on as I’m trying to max out my weapons and keep dying at 8 heat
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
I'm glad this was helpful! Cheers!
@samedguresen3 жыл бұрын
is that still good or patch change anything?
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
I'd say its about 80% accurate still. haelian and I did a vid about heat settings recently actually. That might be helpful. Biggest change is to tight deadline. It's much more forgiving so jury summons isn't quite so punishing in Elysium
@samedguresen3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul thx sub this channel good guide for hades 👍
@expat8460 Жыл бұрын
Old video but helpful as hell. Hope you will be pumping Hades 2 content in the future.
@JawlessPaul Жыл бұрын
That's the plan! I'm glad these videos are helpful!
@mr.terrell31253 жыл бұрын
Great content bro xbox just got hades.. excellent game
@OldHunters4 жыл бұрын
imagine taking tight deadline and no choice. impossible to win.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
That would be rough!
@AscendantStoic3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say impossible but very very diffcult, remember that some people beat the game and defeated Hades with a fresh save file (no darkness upgrades and no weapon aspects) which also might seem impossible to the average Hades player.
@csanya253 жыл бұрын
How can you activate the heat menu? After 24runs I cant see it. I have to beat Hades at least once?
@Jarl973 жыл бұрын
Yes, heats unlock after your first completed run
@oopsiexistnow3 жыл бұрын
See I don’t do convenience fee though because every run I try to save up for whatever item is in the Styx Shop
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
For sure! If you're farming for resources it's better to leave that one off
@cainification3 жыл бұрын
Can't seem to find an answer on this. I'm on my 5th or 6th heat run. Am I wasting my time choosing different weapons or should I just keep increasing with the same weapon? My goal is to progress the story
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
You will progress the story whether you beat the game or not, except for the MAIN story, which only progress when you are victorious. Which weapon you use doesn't matter at all. There are specific conversations that will only occur when you use certain weapons though. The nice thing about changing up weapons is that you get more blood without increasing your heat much higher.
@cainification3 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul you're awesome man, thanks a lot. Subbed
@fredgerd58114 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like underworld customs is a 2 heat freebie. I avoided it for a long time and then I realized that you actually want to sell boons way more often than I was doing. You don't really use all of them anyway most of the time, and you still get the obols with underworld customs. Also, it makes it alot easier to get palms and nectars on the boons you want them on. I kinda see this as free heat for doing what I should be doing anyway.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
That's a good point! As I've done higher heat runs sometimes it can be a really good thing to keep the build lean. However I've been screwed out of a duo boon I was going for as well, which sucks!
@fredgerd58114 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul true, though I've also gotten the wrong duo by having to much stuff. Its all about selling off the right boons so you can control what the game gives you.
@techknowbabble3 жыл бұрын
Why do your weapons look different from my game?
@notapprovedtrash16283 жыл бұрын
Weapon aspects! You can select them when you’re in the courtyard
@nineinchnailzPSN4 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you get the pact of punishment? i dont have it.
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I think you need to beat hades
@andrewmartin29534 жыл бұрын
If you get past hydra for a certain heat but then die, and then increase the heat and beat it on the same weapon, will you get the blood for beating hades on the lower heat? And then will your ambrosia and blood on said higher heat show up as not obtained yet?
@zeldaau10174 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the case. If you collect Titian's Blood at 1 heat, then lose, then set the heat to 2, the bounties will still be those for 1 heat; you won't be able to collect the Titans Blood again bc you already go it (so you'll need to beat 2 heat again to collect the 2 heat bounties)
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Zelda has you covered. Thanks!
@fawad94074 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@unknownavenger30414 жыл бұрын
So i am one of those guys that used calishenics one heat +hard labor one heat + jury summons one heat and got destroyed a lot when my dps wan not high as i wanted it to but i finally did it with bow hera aspect,shield zagreus aspect, sword nemesis aspect and spear achilles aspect! i was so bummed when i was thinking my built is just right and then i died couple chambers later also i recently did up the jury summons once more but only made it through the end with the shield. Well i made some progress but i will try different heat conditions next time for sure!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
It's good to keep experimenting! Congrats on all the wins!
@unknownavenger30414 жыл бұрын
@@JawlessPaul This time I LL try your suggestions to ease the difficulty a bit 😂! Also thanks for the congrats🙌
@alfonsoa.pacheco24223 жыл бұрын
Not a Sammich is a gyro I think
@thestupididiotsA4 жыл бұрын
I'm used to extreme measures sisters and hydras, I can kill them easily. But extreme measure asterius is super hard. I just started fighting him today and his helicopter move always kills me
@thestupididiotsA4 жыл бұрын
Also if you were to rank the pact of punishment from first to last pick, what heat number would you recommend for extreme measures Elysium?
@callumwright59724 жыл бұрын
Great videos Jawless, enjoying listening to them!
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad!
@stevenscangas2 жыл бұрын
such a high quality content creator, no clickbait, and thoroughly explains stuff with relevant clips
@JawlessPaul2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven! I appreciate the kind words!
@nerfherder33Ай бұрын
I take middle management all the time. Super easy.
@JawlessPaul26 күн бұрын
Nice!
@michaeltouch88824 жыл бұрын
Calisthenics depends on what youre using, i cleared 32 heat with the rail that on before and it wasnt too rough but yes definetly takes longer if you arent going high dander damage output, also youre right aboit damage control. Its terrible for rail
@JawlessPaul4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the fact that it affects bosses is what kills it for me
@michaeltouch88824 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The enemies no problem. The bosses when they have thousands of hp suck
@nicb.14113 жыл бұрын
I think the government increased the heat significantly this year and it sucks!
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Lasting consequences to the max!
@J_Themborn3 жыл бұрын
Do all heat challenges need to be completed? Do you get the same rewards with each?
@JawlessPaul3 жыл бұрын
There isn't really any rewards besides the statues and the prophecies. The heat is just for a challenge beyond those