What are woodworking jigs? Plus, Antonio separates the lid from his shoeshine box. | Day 195

[@johnvodopija]

I am really enjoying the collaboration with Antonio. It was good to see the box lid get cut. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@russellrains8422]

I enjoyed the 'behind the scenes' version of the show today. You often talk about how much work it is to make youtube videos, and I thought today was a great, and fun, example of that.

[@garyknight8616]

Great video Steve. You are so right about the obsession with perfection. It can turn hobby-level woodworking into an unpleasant experience i.e. no longer a hobby.

[@kyoopihd]

That Rex Krueger video came up in my feed the other day too - it was indeed an awesome one!

[@jasonkarels6202]

Rex Kruger does some really interesting work. I like to watch him as well.

[@UnfortunateDesert]

Antonio!... In regard to what Steve talked about the piece being the story of the maker, What I see in your piece is that of a guy who might have been a beginner woodworker, but was SUPER dedicated and detail oriented and ended up with a product that was much nicer than 95% of most beginners could have accomplished. THAT is a heck of an accomplishment. When a person considers that wood is a substance that even when you do it all perfect, the substance itself moves and changes and betrays your perfect work, you have a GREAT piece to show and reflect on. Awesome job!!!!

[@cliftonsomers4548]

AAAAAH!!! My favorite wood workers are giving each other shout outs!

[@MCsCreations]

Rex Kruger's amazing! I love his videos as well! 😃 BTW, I saw you in a Jay Bates' video the other day, asking how big was his dog. 😂 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@CeeJayThe13th]

Super cool that you shouted out Rex Kruger!

[@kyronnewbury]

Rex's video was fantastic! I love that you mentioned it. I've often thought of your channel while watching his stuff

[@slymike21]

I enjoyed Rex’s video as well. I’m glad all of you guys know and respect each other. It is really awesome.

[@nomisant]

The Rex Kruger video was fascinating. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@jasonbailey9139]

“Dark and out of focus” is an apt description of your favorite types of movies. ;) Loving the shoebox series. When this pandemic is over, I hope you keep up this format.

[@FaejaVu]

Your willingness to leave goofy bits like fussing with the camera and rambling about the teleprompter is part what makes you and your channel so wonderful Steve. Like woodworking imperfections, it shows your character and makes the piece so much better!

[@RealMenRealStyle]

The LID is cut!!!! I just took a few shots of vodka & wild turkey.....and boom, now worries. Just kidding - it was beautiful.....

[@cmaybe3908]

If that's a typo, it's the most wonderful typo ever 😆

[@profcah]

So THATS the secret!

[@petem6503]

Congrats! For your consideration: a featherboard might avoid the blip. When guiding a piece through a tablesaw, featherboards (I use both horizontal and--for smaller pieces--vertical FBs) allow you to focus on just pushing the piece through the blade, one thought at a time. I never try to multichannel my thinking once the blade starts spinning.

[@mi98joni]

Wow. Did not expect you here. Funny. Love RMRS!

[@michaelthompson5875]

Antonio, Any chance we'll see a review at RMRS of shop aprons? I hear it's the new "must have" piece for every woodworkers wardrobe. Love your work!

[@JohnSmithShields]

Steve, great job on showing how much prep goes into what looks a throwaway item. It is the same with setting up cuts on power tools. Most don't show the test cuts, the near misses and the plain simple mistakes, and make it look like you just dial in a setting and away you go. Thank you for realism!!!!! PS, we need your furbabies back on screen.

[@chagildoi]

Awesome job shouting out to Rex!

[@gogogadgetspoon]

Hope you're keeping well Steve; really enjoy your videos!

[@luctoulouse]

I am so happy for Antonio and his result so far....I am trill to see the following. Very cool section of your video Steve.

[@matthewcarpenter4716]

OMG!!!! STEVE! I have been watching you for as long as I can remember. I have always loved your take on how to go about woodworking. I dare say you are the one who first inspired me to get my first table saw. I discovered Rex about 2 years ago. Honestly, to hear you speak fondly of one of the other makers who inspires me just reaffirms that what I am doing is a good thing.

[@spaci-1701]

A simple solution for the drawers is to make an upper drawer that nests into the existing drawer boxes. Store the less commonly used stuff underneath and just lift the top out when needed. As a bonus it would also mean that the top boxes could be taken elsewhere in the shop if needed - you could take all your bits with you if you're using a handheld router, for example. Love that you're showing how most practical projects evolve as you get into them!

[@mikeh3458]

Steve. You are a legend. Your Chess board is you legacy piece - video. It will be remembered. What would you like to be remembered for? Helping the un-mortal woodworkers like me is a brilliant thing! Bless you from the UK

[@SeanBlader]

That was amazing with the behind the scenes setup for the teleprompter!

[@ednarobinson3424]

Everything you said about perfection with wood working is the same thing while quilting which I do a lot of. My mistakes or imperfections are places that I see but no one else does, yet, I can always identify a quilt I have made. Why? because of my imperfection. Keep up the great work Antonio. The box looks amazing.

[@kashel83]

I love all your videos but in particular this one, because I've been investing more time lately in my woodworking, and no matter what project I make, I always make some sort of mistake, and it's really frustrating, I tend to be too hard on myself and be my worst critic, but hearing you and those encouraging words is exactly what I needed to tackle my next project this weekend. Thank you very much, i assure you, you made my weekend

[@Damon_Barber]

Great addition to your video collection! Nice to see Antonio got his lid cut with no issues!

[@matahaikonen9390]

Your videos makes me happy always.. your true happiness comes so nicely out from these videos.. everything hasn't to be so serious.. keep up the good work and be safe

[@johnkarapita437]

This is very true!

[@thomashverring9484]

Rex Krueger is great! I really loved that video!

[@robertbutler4393]

ABCs of woodworking setup. Class act. :)

[@maximeboissonneault6203]

You could have an internal drawer. Keep the same frame, but add a drawer without a front attached. The only thing is you have to open the bottom one before opening the top one.

[@Assorted12]

I was thinking the same thing. Just have a finger hole in the front of the internal drawer. Should be rather simple.

[@ShaneShepherd]

I just typed up the same idea /comment!

[@parzdiver]

Same thought here. No need to modify the existing drawers.

[@geoffreyblackmer]

The most amazing camp references I've seen in ages

[@lucidmoses]

This series with Antonio is one of your better idea.

[@heavymetallife398]

nice shout out to rex, your a youtube champion mate

[@oldhamegg]

I love it when the grain lines up with my knot.

[@darrenjoyce5911]

Great to see him again

[@jeanchapman1301]

My humble suggestion would be to cut the lid off with the box against the fence instead of the lid and pushing on the box only. It prevents the kerf from closing on the final cuts and and damaging the cut line or kicking back if the blade is pinched, which you can see in Antonio’s video.

[@johnkarapita437]

Last time, someone on this thread asked if it would make more sense to do just that. I was wondering if it would and now, seeing this, it seems to validate that approach. I wonder what others think.

[@jnwahlgren]

Makes sense to me, but it might be limited by the size of your box or saw. If you're making a big box on a small saw (like mine) the fence might not be able to move far enough to fit the body of the box in there.

[@joycemiller4716]

Nearly cut it in half leave a sixteenth or so finish by hand works for me

[@johnkarapita437]

@@joycemiller4716 never thought of that. Good idea.

[@jeanchapman1301]

Nathan Wahlgren I only use this technique on relatively small boxes that should fit even on a job site saw. Much bigger than that and I build the lid separate, but yes, you have a point.

[@mrfaffley4479]

More instructions to the off-camera crew please. That's just the kind of nonesense I like :). Most woodwork/DIY jobs blossom in the way you described. The other day I decided to move the tumble dryer in the garage. Consequently I had to remove a window and replace part of the frame.

[@sebytro]

150 years from now someone will tell the story of Antonio's shoeshine box and how he most probably asked an expert woodworker for help. Btw, I watched Rex's video last night and I liked a lot how he told the story of that old table and the conclusion he drew at the end. To hear you mention his video here is really cool, made it double special for me! :)

[@vortegon1227]

Ooh wow a nod to Rex? I thought I was the only one who watched his content. Kudos Steve for acknowledging smaller channels when their content is good.

[@stevecook6505]

Greetings Mr. Ramsey, just a random thought concerning the router table drawers, . leave the drawer front as it is, and make a roll-out above the existing drawer. Down side is you will have to open the drawer to access the roll-out. Upside you will double the storage and not have to make new drawer fronts.

[@sukmykrok3388]

I saw that video! I love watching Rex!

[@ArtisanPirate]

Awesome Update ! Still Need To Make A Crosscut Sled For My Tablesaw.

[@JonnyDIY]

Steve gettin jiggy wit it 🤣👍🏻

[@jamestrowbridge]

Router table drawers: Just make a box that sits on top of the runners that doesn't pull out with the drawer. You'll be able to keep the faces like they are and use the space above the existing drawers. The router bits are hopefully short enough to fit in the drawer below the runners/slides. It can just be a removable box that you pull out when you need something.

[@tthomasokc]

I came down here to say this to. No need to modify the drawer face. Just add a drawer box above the existing drawer, and since you added the runners to keep the lower drawer from tipping, they can act and slides for the new box.

[@tommyammo6135]

Sounds like the winner to me.

[@fassst6]

Drawer idea: build an L shape that forms a cantilevered shelf. Use pocket holds to attach one side of L to top edge of existing drawer side (existing side and new leg of L are flush). This leaves other part of L as cantilevered shelve above existing drawer. Could put shallow sides on perimeter of shelf to keep things from falling off. The L shape is then open from the side, allowing you to reach into the lower drawer area as well as access things on the shelf. The Kreg jigs might be good candidates for storing on the top shelf. Keep the good working coming - always enjoy your segments!

[@mrkeegs]

43 seconds in and I'm reliving the trauma of the Star Wars Christmas special.

[@parzdiver]

The horror. The horror.

[@MegaTeddybear04]

Awesome video, I love Rex Crugers videos as well..

[@danmarshall5895]

My Dad (a Master Machinist) to me as a kid: "Never wear gloves when working on tools and machines. You may keep your hand clear and the glove may catch. You also only need a single loose string to wrap around a spindle and ruin your day."

[@jayriosa6004]

Yeah in engineering safety never work with gloves on spinning machines like drill press, table saw and lathe machines, terrible things happen.

[@danmarshall5895]

I know Antonio is new to this stuff and the gloves seem like a good idea, but I worked in machine shops long enough to know that gloves can be a very, very bad idea. (to be fair, metal machining is a bit more dangerous, as my sister found out when she agree to drill some holes and a long chip caught on the glove, wrapped the bit and pulled he hand into the drill bit. I think she ended up with 8 or 9 stitches)

[@wmjowls]

G is for Gloves. Don't wear them. S is for safety and Y is for you wanna keep them fingers?

[@25Dionysus25]

I don't know. Gloves can or not be dangerous when working with tools. I believe it to be the type of glove you use can be dangerous for example, wool gloves. I just recently ran my finger over the table saw blade with gloves on. I think the glove actually saved me from more severe damage. The glove I wore had padding on the fingers and palm increasing the distance from the saw blade and my finger. If I did not have those gloves on it would most likely have hit bone. Though at the same time I understand the dangers of using gloves when working with tools. I spent several hours going through pairs of the glove and their ability to hold onto melamine with only the fingers touching the face to see what was the safest glove to use. As some gloves simply don't have the grip to hold ply, melamine, or hardboard with just fingers on the face and just slip off.

[@Arkkis27]

Yep, can confirm this one. My dad had a really close call with a router table when some part of the clove caught the spindle. He was able to pull his hand out fast enough that only the glove was destroyed. Even tho I didn't see the situation and he just told me it later on, I have remembered this advice ever since to not to wear cloves when using spinning machines. But still wear cloves when handling stuff - be smart and responsible.

[@lesliebethea1622]

We are of the same era! Thanks for the flashbacks.

[@mykalimba]

I know that Antonio is not an experienced woodworker, but I noticed some real scary technique when he was cutting the lid off of the box. It looked like most of his force was applied parallel to the blade (moving the box through the saw) and not enough force was perpendicular (to hold the piece against the fence). You can literally see on several cuts that the trailing edge of the box breaks contact with the fence as the piece moves forward. I know with a piece that bulky, it is impossible to see the front and back edges at the same time, to make sure everything is in the correct position when making a cut. But that's when you rely on feel -- press the piece against the fence and try to maintain that lateral pressure as you push the piece through the blade.

[@bobby-c7731]

I had a thought about the drawers. Yeah, like 1,000 other people. Anyway, what if you didn't change the drawer fronts? What if you made the supplemental drawer a pull out tray? you open the drawer with the tall front to get to the bottom, then there is a pull out tray that is half way (or some other ratio), up the space. Might works best with full extension slides, but could be done with your same method for the drawer runners. This would preserve the aesthetic of the overall cabinet, and mean much less work making new drawer fronts. Might also be more efficient on internal space.

[@OtherBrotherDaryl]

Steve "Jiggity Jiggity" Ramsey. As it happens, I just spent the morning creating a "Wall 'o' Jigs" to consolidate all of them to one convenient area. I wish I could post a picture just to show it off!

[@wolfman75]

Great Video Steve!!! Thank You!!!! 👍😎

[@kenny_speaks]

Steve your meme game is top tier and I love it. Have a good day!

[@drzeus9449]

I'm a perfectionist by nature but my uni prof on spotting this told me something that has always stayed with me: Perfection is the enemy of good. I also read and agree that striving for excellence is motivating, striving for perfection is demoralizing. Goes hand in hand with Steve's advice on where to place the crappy side 😉

[@tomdenny8507]

That little snipe you got when cutting the lid off is due to putting pressure against the fence by pushing on the box. This causes the lid to spring towards the box which allows the box to move a little closer to the blade causing that snipe. Next time, turn your work around and maintain pressure against the fence while holding onto the box. Don't put any pressure on the lid and you will end up with a perfect cut with no snipe.

[@DJH316007]

I thought a jig was a dance a woodworker does when they finish their project.

[@uhhsam]

There's also the angry stomping dance that you do when you realize your wallet has fallen through your pants. I believe it is called the pocket hole jig.

[@CycoBillywoodworking]

when cutting the box lid instead of cutting all the way thru the lid leave about a 1/32 in the cut then use a razor knife to separate them

[@leighdurrant9116]

I watched Rex's video last night, how true 👍

[@puklen]

Speaking of jigs and fixtures, what type of wood is preferable to make for instance an extension fence for a miter saw? I have a very cheap miter saw and the existing "fence" is aligned, let's say, less than exactly...

[@JimSmyth]

Okay, yeah, wasn't really expecting to see Lumpy the Wookie on WWMM. Steve's a horror fan, and few things are as terrifying as the Star Wars Holiday Special.

[@lannydana1531]

Install a panel at an angle in the drawer above the box part of the drawer. You'll need to support it at the back. Drill holes to accept router bits. You'll be able to access the drawer contents from one side and router bits on the other.

[@normanerwin4242]

Our motto at the Rochester Woodworkers Society: "We don't make mistakes, we make adjustments"!

[@christ8725]

I nearly spit my coffee out when I saw the Wookie.

[@adamwhitener2053]

Hi Steve! Thanks so much for your videos - my grandfather designed and built furniture and I have been wanting to get into it for years but never had the right conditions until recently. I just found your channel by accident actually but your videos are great! I did buy the Weekend Woodworker course and made it through 3 weeks but haven't had a chance to finish it out, and sadly it might be a few more weekends until I can keep going with it. The problem is that we are coming up on cooler temperatures and have had several colder nights and some days. Since my workshop is also used to house my wife's car and also mine when I move out of the way, it isn't heated. So here is my question: Since wood expands and contracts with temperature changes, about what temperature does it become too cold to build nice quality furniture?

[@WiFiJeremy]

Great shout out to Rex Kruger! Nice. I love his channel! Yours too BTW!

[@Cw90118]

Would you mind doing a video with a focus on jigs? Specifically, maybe a top 5-10 that you use the most?

[@satchm05]

Thank you for talking through “jigs”!

[@paintjunctionpanipat4291]

Good work👍👍

[@daveatdoughnetca]

For the router table drawers you might consider adding a second drawer above the existing drawer base but leave the drawer front unchanged. You could keep the most common bits within the existing drawer bottoms and place the more specialty bits in the hidden upper drawer. I see a lot of kitchen cabinets with custom drawers in a similar configuration.

[@destryreopelle9200]

The part with Antonio reminded me of Billy Batts in Goodfellas. "Now go get your shinebox!!"

[@davidhenke647]

When I first saw the shallow drawer with the large face I actually pictured it with multi layer router bit storage. Have you considered making a tray to hold router bits with maybe host on the bottom to sit in the drawer so you would have two layers or more of trays you can pull out with router bits stored in each one?

[@davidhenke647]

Also, seen another video where somebody cut vertical & horizontal dados in a tray & set the shanks of their router bits where the dados intersected to store them

[@joshpihl3023]

What about leaving the face and the second “higher” drawer with no face. Just pull the “tray” out when needing something out of there. It would essentially be a replica of the bottom drawer. It would eliminate the need to recreate the faces just add runners and a stop so the drawer doesn’t fall out

[@TrailRat2000]

For those drawers, why not a drawer in a drawer. So the drawer you've got can house your regular bits and the inners can hold your lesser used bits. That way you don't need to make new drawer fronts. Also, you could use cut out grid lines to store the bits.

[@salukispeed93]

Need some help. I purchased the "upgraded" ridgid sable saw suggested in the tool list and the fence is about 1/8 in off from one end to the other. I can grab the other end and straighten it prior to locking it down but thats not right. Any know how to adjust the fence? i can obviously force it to cut true by adjusting the blade but thats not right. I want it square to the table. Any ideas would be awesome.

[@michaelolds6917]

On your drawer don’t make a new front but make a slide out shelf drawer over the drawer. So when you open the drawer you can choose your bit or slide out the shelf for additional bits, like having two drawers in one.

[@zed42]

for the drawers, you can have an internal drawer with more bits, but it's hidden behind the same drawer face... so you pull open a "drawer" and the common bits are right there, but you can also get to the less common bits with a top level "hidden" or "internal" drawer. that way, you don't have to remake the faces but still get 2 levels of storage

[@necrojoe]

Jigs are not only great for repeated cuts/processes, but to also to ensure that your one supernvital cut/carve/hole/etc, even if it's just one, turns out right.

[@profcah]

As a professor at a university, no one knows about the technical background that goes into making a video production. Steve has let us see the truth of what goes into these. Bravo!

[@ObsessiveAboutCats]

Nice video. I got a good laugh out of the camera adjustment; it was interesting to see that side of the woodworking process.

[@gimlinfit]

On the router table, don't change the face of the drawer, but add a hidden drawer above the existing drawer that is flush to the inside of the current drawer face. Maybe with an oval hole to grab to open.

[@gregorysmith21]

Hey Steve quick suggestion for the router table drawers instead of new faces etc IKEA does a hidden style shallow drawer that would use those empty spaces above the current drawers no faces needed i was looking at there kitchen cabinet options and saw it thought something along those lines would work.

[@stephenpeterson7479]

It's fun when you ramble.

[@omegafighters]

Christmas Specials are always brave.

[@nancyhouston9649]

So what can you do to fix lid edges that have a bit too much cut off on one end? Had this problem with a project, due to the rip fence not being perfectly aligned. Sanding only made things worse, ended up rounding edges.

[@alskjflaksjdflakjdf]

That always sucks, because you can't cut it longer :(. One thing you could try is to cut out the end that is too short, and make an inlay using another species of wood that is a contrasting color. It would turn your mistake into an accent.

[@artist1138]

Tranquility. Lumpy!!

[@danpendergrass7762]

An idea on splitting the drawers, use the same idea used in making the box lid, just cut the drawer face in half, add some trim, job done .....the drawer face will have the same look except for the new trim.

[@AndyAspellClark]

For the router cabinet drawers you could add extra drawers that you get to by opening the drawer face you have now and then you could pull out the "upper" drawer

[@the_attic_woodworker]

@rexkrueger you really make awesome content

[@DJJuxtapose]

Hey Steve - any chance we can get a video with tips on how to best use a jigsaw? I've taken your course and I've absolutely massacred the bottom shelf of the BMW trying to get a level of control with the jigsaw I have. It's my most hated power tool by far!

[@jjohnston94]

The comment about scripting is spot-on. You can tell that Norm's shows were always tightly scripted, while Roy just goes with the flow.

[@sparkyprojects]

Antonio could run the box and lid through the saw and set to take half the width of the blade to remove the problem, but only if the box will fit.

[@jaredwicklund60]

For your drawers could you just add a board across the middle front and then cut in half, then boom, two drawer faces?

[@freddiecampmier4835]

Steve just cut the drawer headers for example. In half add boards where you cut and wallah problem solved. Keep up with the great work and stay safe.

[@johnkarapita437]

I made a similar comment and, I swear, I hadn't seen yours when I posted!!

[@michaelposey6529]

Dude......you went to the Star Wars Holiday Special well...... I love you.

[@danielduncan6806]

Idea for October, have people send you pictures of their woodworking fails, the horrors of failure for Halloween, type thing.

[@screwywoodworking2829]

Can you cut the current drawer faces in half and use them that way?

[@xellbe]

Glad to see your video in the feed this morning! The air is finally starting to clear up here in my neck of the woods and I hope it is for you too. I know what it's like to start one project and then realize halfway through that there's so much more to the project than when you first started, but I'm sure the router table is gonna turn out great (: Also, was that Chewbacca from the Star Wars Christmas Special???

[@bradpollock7120]

Have you considered a hidden drawer for the router table. You could use the same drawer front and then once it is open you have a second drawer on the top. Not the cleanest functionally, but less modifications.

[@TheSkcookie]

Looking forward to this years Halloween episode! Will be hard to top the 2020 timeline of events.