What are your thoughts on Raptors acquiring Brandon Ingram?

What are your thoughts on the Raptors acquiring Brandon Ingram? Does Jimmy Butler move the needle for the Warriors? What else can we say about Shai Gilgeous-Alexander? NBA analyst Jevohn Shepherd joins SC with Jay Onrait to discuss.

[@brandonwintpoetry]

I just want to note how much Jevohn has improved as a broadcaster and analyst over the years. This was a really, really solid segment. I agree with his take on the Ingram trade. I think it's possible to quibble with the philosophy behind this trade if you wanted the Raptors to do a gradual, outright rebuild, but I think the current squad, when healthy, is already too good to make that viable. A trade like this is good value, given that Olynk and Brown weren't likely to be part of the future anyway, and the only genuinely valuable asset given up was the FRP. This was a good, opportunistic move by the Raptors. It didn't cost much.

[@pulga1986ify1]

I am just glad that Boucher is still with us.

[@jamtown607]

We will be 🤞🏻, we have till 3 pm today for the trade to end

[@torontowalker17]

Yeah for now until 3pm today we'll see

[@Fred-vy1hm]

The last tie to the championship team I hope we keep him. 😊

[@justanobody0]

I'm with you on that, hope he's still with the Raps 3 hours from now or whatever

[@we-the-north]

LETS GOOOOO .. MASAI WE TRUST .. INGRAM all star 🔥

[@vigilante7]

Masai is legit one of the worst gms in the league. Coasted since 2019. Should be fired.

[@doc7569]

​@vigilante7 you probably think Lukas the best player in the league 😂 yall kids are funny

[@PWCDN]

you trust a guy that traded away Siakam, took some late picks last draft, then traded the rest for a guy just like Siakam.... and Masai we Trust?

[@rulz2663]

@@vigilante7😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is cap

[@jeffreym.8957]

Prime idiocy right here. Not to mention the team had an even better winning percentage the very next season after Kawhi left!

[@smooth1234ish]

BI gets time to heal, fresh start, I always liked him a a young player. Thanks, to Kelly and Bruce for effort, and professionalism. Good trade, lets hope it works.

[@warwolf88]

I hope it works out I really do

[@justanobody0]

welcome to the Raptors Brandon Ingram!

[@recrevs963]

jevohn is doing a great job breaking these down.

[@XxHarounXx]

Winning a few games in a row shouldn't change the rebuild. However value for value, this was a good buy

[@toronto416.]

How was it a good buy lol they traded away PICKS for a guy that will enter free agency next year lol

[@XxHarounXx]

@toronto416. good value if he resigns of course. If not, raps should be embarrassed

[@donaldmoroz686]

@@toronto416.bro they have his bird rights.. the 21st pick you would’ve ended up with will never be better then Ingram..we can pay more and we a better situation then the one he left on top of the fact next year there few teams ABLE AND WILLING TO PAY INGRAM 40 MIL.. .. think about it, Masai Cooked.. ochai jakobe and bi for pascal.. the value is there

[@KiiNG2368]

@@toronto416. hes already came out and said he's excited to play in Toronto. but also like Toronto isn't a big market for NBA players, we usually have to bring players here and hope they enjoy the city and the culture.

[@danumba1hustla]

@@toronto416.Even if he doesn’t stay you got him for nothing. That pick wasn’t anything special. It’s Indiana’s pick and they’ll be in the playoffs. If he stays he’s already your best player an if anything have a good team if they buy in.

[@conwayGAMES]

ingram can chill and let that injury heal for the rest of the season. we can tank for a high draft pick. it has always been a retool.

[@illDefine1]

He wants a max and will play for it. Guaranteed. That would be doing him dirty to sit him out just to diminish his value. He wouldn't appreciate that.

[@docmadhattan]

Fantastic pickup. Deal wise, might end up being the next best trade for value in Raptors history next to the Kawhi trade.

[@Sam19509]

Nah 2nd best Raptors trade is when Masai grifter the Knicks to give up picks for Bargnani.😂😂

[@serotoninlight7269]

Wow I’m impressed

[@Biggdirt1]

Excellent trade. He will help the tank because he is injured . When he is healthy again, he will be dynamite and he wants to play in Toronto

[@dariusbaja21]

How u know he " wants to play in Toronto" ?? He tell u that did he ?

[@jaydenalvizio5908]

@@dariusbaja21 apparently he said he was excited to be in toronto after the trade happened

[@zenlee1109]

Genius trade. Makes sense short term and long-term. I'm just confused on the fit, unless they move RJ to the 2.

[@samirbhatia5211]

Rj and Ingram can both play 2 and 3

[@IceManLikeGervin]

@@samirbhatia5211 Exactly. In todays NBA they are called Wings - interchangeable.

[@xorivalox8268]

​@samirbhatia5211 in the 2020s when everyone stands on the 3 pt line, none of that matters. You need a 5 for Tipoff, and a 1 if you don't have blanaced teammates. Ingram can also swap 3-4 with Scottie, or run small ball no Poetl and add say Dick for spacing

[@lettuceforbuns]

@@IceManLikeGervin other than Quickley and Poeltl everyone else is positionless

[@notanothershrubbery]

​@@lettuceforbunsWhen fast food places advertise "Help Wanted - All Positions" I often wonder if I qualify for sitting down.

[@jtcash44]

They're going to keep him on the bench A LOT this year. Mcechnie, our head trainer, will rehab him very well. We'll still lose a bunch of games this year and quite frankly, the odds of landing the first pick don't change a ton if you're bottom five. It comes down to luck. This is a great trade. Just wait a year or two.

[@terrancehylton-lyons1776]

They have to pay him, so I doubt that is happening he is gonna play by the end of February scottie will get shutdown or RJ.

[@jtcash44]

@@terrancehylton-lyons1776 You think we're going to stop playing RJ and SB? Don't think so.

[@tyleryoung306]

@@terrancehylton-lyons1776 Lol... Ingram is still injured and he hasn't even been cleared for practice drills yet. He likely won't be hitting the floor until mid-March. We have his bird rights, and we have quite a bit of cap space. We'll be fine.

[@jtcash44]

@ Exactly. This is a low risk high upside move. No rush to bring him back whatsoever. Warmer weather is around the corner and BI will be happy in Toronto

[@Chillmindedpanther13]

Not mad at it. Yea Flagg or Harper would be nice in the draft but we all know the NBA is afraid of the raptors to get these players in the draft!

[@quinnj3679]

good segment!!

[@therealpeopleofvancouver]

Masai did it again. All the Masai haters in shambles.

[@dariusbaja21]

Did what again?? Masai has only literally made 1 trade in his entire time with the Raps that paid off ... To go from Champs to one of the worst teams consistently over the last few years and people be praising him 😂

[@blackoutgstar9949]

he didn't do anything. just took on an ending contract winning wise, this might move us up one seed at the end of the season. that's it he's not even the best player on the worst team in the west. wtf you think he's going to turn into kawhi?

[@illDefine1]

If Ingram demands his eligible 50 mil, this trade was purely a loss.

[@itzzackzzt]

Y’all weren’t here for the primo pasta man days

[@thebleckBieber45]

Great decision 👏

[@devsarathy7180]

Who is the brother? He’s doing a good job.

[@13ShelbyGuy]

Jay?

[@joec1706]

Jahvon Shepherd

[@artvanderlay6974]

Played at the University of Michigan.

[@Fred-vy1hm]

22.2/5.6/5.2 on 46.5% from the field, this gives us three 20/5/5 guys on the team along with RJ and Scotty. 😊

[@illDefine1]

Project 20/5/5

[@lettuceforbuns]

Nice analysis - they are pretty much locked into the 5/6th worst record in the league so the draft position doesn't really change. Not a bad player to add for such a low cost. I like it!

[@23systems]

Awesome we need a scoring vet in the lineup

[@Dudubrown78]

Big uppp. Raptors stox up.... BI TO THE A MANE..... 🙏💯

[@KenndoSlice]

He 27, that’s fine for a rebuild. We want reliable scorers to bridge the young cats

[@IceManLikeGervin]

The Raptors wouldn't have traded for Ingram if they didn't have a wink-wink deal in place. The Raptors add proven scoring and some length to their starting 5. Ingram is a bucket - a go to player that can create his own shot. Poeltl, Barnes, Ingram, RJ, and IQ, is a very solid starting 5. With some form of Robinson, Chomche, Boucher, Mogbo, Battle, Dick, Walter, Agbaji, Mitchell, Shead, 2025 FRP, off of the bench. Plus, any free agents they can sign this summer. The Raptors now have some quality depth. If they add Maluach during the draft it would be the perfect fit for the projected roster - as is. The rebuild is over!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[@blackoutgstar9949]

buddy comes from the last place team in the west you really think trading for the not even best player on the worst team in the west is really going to make a difference? delusional

[@illDefine1]

This is not how things work. Players always talk team until it's time to make their money. There are plenty of examples of nba players over who refuse to stay with non-contenders if not paid generously. In many cases, money means more to them than championships.

[@IceManLikeGervin]

@@blackoutgstar9949 The Pelicans have had more injuries than the Raptors - let that sink in. All the best.

[@MoneyGrindin007]

good trade considering we can't get good free agents

[@malikcroasdale7741]

Yup, build through trades and draft picks. I doubt we get a talent like Ingram in the open market.

[@MoneyGrindin007]

@@malikcroasdale7741 exactly. this is our only way.

[@kevinlam4550]

Disagree. I think the Raptors are just setting themselves up to win next year. Ingram is currently hurt and has been for the entire season. Let him rest and be healthy for next year and rest of the season. Tank the rest of the way. Get a high draft pick this year and win next year. That’s likely the plan. Yak is also apparently been fighting a hip injury and pain so he should be shut down too.

[@bleach666]

He is coming back probably after asg

[@Tom_TTT]

The rebuild ends after our last year in the lottery. The rest of the year should be spent developing the bench for next year’s run.

[@absiyehassan36]

Rap’s bench will always be terrible except for Grady

[@jeffreym.8957]

@@absiyehassan36 Ochai has been great. Shead and Walter are proving to be good picks in a bad draft.

[@rulz2663]

BI is a hooper! Masai does it again!!!!!

[@SirThomas1212]

A great pu for the Raps 👍

[@S.General]

Interesting trade interesting take

[@HBKCommish]

I would also argue, that just because you're in a re-build doesn't mean you have to just sit back and wait on trades for draft picks. Masai saw an opportunity to jump on a great trade without having to give away too much at all. I'm seeing about a 50/50 split on the support for this trade. The people who are against it are trippin. They are going on about trading away a Canadian. Who cares, Kelly Olynyk while I really like the guy, and he is a decent big man. He's not even close to Jacob Purtle an we're not going to win anything with Kelly Olynyk, sorry! Bruce Brown has been pretty cool to watch, but again he's nothing special. And so many people complaining that Raptors traded away a very late 1st round pick that is not even theirs, but the Pacers. If you don't understand why you're complaining about something, then just don't complain because you sound stupid.

[@illDefine1]

With all due respect, you're not thinking big picture. The remainder of this season is the only time we can afford to have IQ, RJ, SB, BI and JP on the same roster. You should probably take your own advice in that last sentence you wrote.

[@jeffreym.8957]

​@@illDefine1 This is utter nonsense. You don't think Masai knows what the Cap is? The team has BI's Bird Rights - they can afford all five of those guys for the next few years without even touching the first apron!

[@jeffreym.8957]

Your last sentence is correct. On Raptors Digest about 90% are behind the trade. Because the real Raptors fans are on there and not this TSN site with all the casuals it would appear.

[@jamesmcintoshjr]

This on the anniversary of his 41-point game against us last year.... I love bruce and kelly but they never torched anyone like that.

[@247vancity]

Great move! Let’s go BI !!!

[@elieg.8920]

Beside the 1st pick they didnt give nothing important, and moved some salaries out .. Very good move .

[@illDefine1]

At the cost of bring in someone who very likely will demand 50 mil per year. Why do you think the Pelicans are happy to get rid of him for nothing more than a late FRP? Because he was going to simply walk away from the Pels who aren't willing to pay him generously.

[@johnqsack]

Kardinal offishal with the inside scoop

[@lesliemoochewienes1749]

VERY VERY GREAT 👍 PICK UP FOR THE RAPTORS 🎉CONGRATULATIONS 🎊 👏

[@JP-cc6yn]

The team can still do a "sign and trade" with another team for Ingram's new deal.

[@landon4351]

Also with the new cap system If the raps dont re sign ingram they have 40 mil in real cap space

[@Sam19509]

I think the price for this trade is low because Ingram plans to test free agency regardless what team he is on at the end of the season. He is also injured at the moment. Raptors can probably retain him if they offer a 5 year contract at whatever they determine to be his market value. He probably will get a deal bigger than IQ but less than Scottie Barne’s recent extension.

[@illDefine1]

I think he'd prefer to get paid his full 50 mil on a contender on a 2-year contract than sign with Raptors for less money and more years. Similar to what Butler just did. Only time will tell.

[@Felicia-ve5vw]

This is good move getting talent for very little

[@Eddi3L33]

Bro we’re tanking. We will play hard for the first half and then the second half we will lose.

[@user-k96.]

It would have been great if they sent Brandon InGOAT with Jose Alvarado to the Raptors. Both guys work great together and are also best friends. I hate to see them on different teams.

[@kthekid10]

good return for the bb/pacers package. not sure how the fit will be next year though...

[@Miko2Swavey]

Bless trade 💜❤️

[@DavidWilliams-rk1nq]

The guy is always injured and might walk at the end of the year. This is not Kwai 2.0

[@justanobody0]

people say Kawhi is always injured (and injuries happen, half the Raptors squad was injured at the start of the year, and our team is a young team), probably more than any player in the league besides maybe Anthony Davis or Zion Kawhi walked at the end of the year

[@jeffreym.8957]

He was an All-Star at age 22. He's pretty damn good.

[@JaskaranSingh-oj2uq]

But do raptors have enough money to sign him next year

[@illDefine1]

Nope. They're championship window is the remainder of this season lol.

[@jeffreym.8957]

Yes, they do.

[@jeffreym.8957]

@@illDefine1 Wrong. They will be under the first apron - which is all that matters.

[@BigLJR]

The raptors should not stop here. They should be able to package Mitchell, Boucher and either Dick, Walter or Agbaji to get an impact 4/5.

[@jeffreym.8957]

Huh? They have Barnes and Ingram?

[@novellprice132]

Never expected Toronto Raptors to do a trade at this time ⏲️, due to Toronto Raptors recent wins over good contending teams over the past few weeks. Regardless, it is a good acquisition for the Toronto Raptors. Peace🕊🏳️...

[@DharmYogi]

It’s good if he resigns. Good player

[@JWorm416]

W Good work but job not finished. Bol Bol for CB, make it happen Raptors✊🏾

[@jeffreym.8957]

CB is way better than Bol Bol. Bol Bol only plays during garbage time.

[@trinivagrant]

I think the deal is worth the risk. Since many teams don't have the cap space this summer, Ingram's new deal could be decent. I do think this leaves RJ out of the future. I don't think it's sustainabke or wise to keep both IQ and RJ assuming BI is part of the long term future. IQ's contract probably makes him untradeable which leaves RJ

[@jeffreym.8957]

They can afford both. Don't forget the cap is growing significantly each year. The first apron will be close to $200 million shortly.

[@JoeStacey-l5b]

It the dumbest thing they have done. They get rid of first round and two good players for a guy who injured and can also leave the end of the season

[@carlinjames9475]

Not at all - before doing this trade Masai would obviously talk to BI and see if he wants to come there. BI has been on record saying he loves Toronto. We can still draft high and have a good team next year

[@JoeStacey-l5b]

@carlinjames9475 u can say you wanna b here but at same time if get a better offer majority of players take the better offer we have up a ton for a guy who injured and contract is up end of season is all I'm saying. I like Ingram just damn coulda made a better deal to get an injured guy

[@TerryClifford-s5u]

When you're playing fantasy sports do you draft players that are always hurt or do you stay away from them! Of course you stay away from them so why trade all that for a guy that hasn't played hardly since his rookie year plus he can walk end of season! Dumb trade!

[@carlinjames9475]

@ okay so I’m a basketball nerd so I’ll actually break it down for you 1. Getting players to play in Toronto isn’t always easy so when you have a player at that level you take it when you can (we gave up nothing to get him) 2. We essentially turned pascal siakam trade into Ingram, ochai, Walter, Shead which is amazing value. 3. He’s still injured so he can take the year off with our medical staff who is the best in the biz. That allows us to still tank get a high draft pick and then roll out a competitive team next year. You don’t wanna waste Scottie’s years here either

[@JoeStacey-l5b]

@carlinjames9475 I also watch every single game and yes I agree we have good medical but who to really say he stays not something u or I can confirm.

[@MrJohnnybravo141]

They've been after him for years

[@TruePersianPrince]

We want cooper flag. We need to continue to tank. Such a dumb move. Raptors need a plus defender on this roster. BI is not a defender. He shoots from the midrange.

[@joyfull113]

Brandon, welcome to Toronto. Learn how to play defense!

[@smartenuphumans]

Whyte Canadian hockey media, complains about a "rebuild" with the Raps "why should I watch" said the sport(s) expert Noodles from Overdrive (can you Imagine an "expert" which he gets paid to be, cannot understand why you watch sports outside of "winning"), moving on from that Mongoloids way of thinking, and then when the rebuild is excelled quicker than plan, instead of praising teh team for efficiency, all I hear is criticism/speculation/concern towards this trade effecting the speeding up of the "rebuild" ... As Jay asked "what about the rebuild?". How long did you want the rebuild to go for? ..Getting a two 3 pick for the Raps where they stand today is a fools bet, they'll fall 4-7, which they still can - and beside you have about 5-6 rookies right looking good, have to start being a winner and not a groomer of rookies every season.

[@illDefine1]

There are mental health facilities all over the nation.

[@smartenuphumans]

@@illDefine1 So because you lack a vocabulary to articulate a proper response, you choose the behavior of a 12 year old and callously use the devastation of "mental illness" like it were a joke for your disposal, dismissing the heinous illness just for your immoral decision to act like a child, and mimic the personality of Nelson Munce from The Simpsons - then use me as the target to practice on? This makes you immature, a big dummy, and unethical. Your family, (if you even have friends), and work must really boast about you!

[@andrewtataj497]

After the Luka trade and all the stink on that, me and the NBA aren't on speaking terms. I'll come back and see if I've changed my mind in the offseason. But for now, I honestly don't care about Ingram.

[@tito5428]

Welcome to Canada B.I., weed is legal😅

[@kwykwyk8447]

Reminds me of Poetl move... Adding a player who doesn't fit the timeline plus it blocks 2 of our young wings

[@trinivagrant]

I'm not sure about this trade either but I dont think the Raps were in rebuild during the JP trade. They still had Siakam and OG with a young Barnes and were trying to compete. The Raps probably should have been in rebuild but JP has been great for them nonetheless

[@jeffreym.8957]

Who? What? He's 27! No NBA team has a bunch of teenagers. Every good team needs a mix of young guys and vets.

[@valr852]

SHAI MVP

[@JaysYoshiYT]

I’ll miss brown but this is a good trade

[@jamaicanunivrse]

WE NEE BUTLER NOT iNGRAM BUT IM HAPPY IF HE PLAYS DEFENCE LIKE HE SCORES

[@thewings4]

Butler is old and washed you seen how the warriors just ruined there future for mid ass Butler

[@DavidBrouwer-m4z]

Ingram is a good player....I haven't watched since 2019 because the product sucks. It's boring! Now I've heard some back door dealings with Adam Silver, Lebron & the top Dallas brass. A move to Vegas sounds likely. Time will tell.

[@PWCDN]

so we basically traded Siakam for Ingram with a year of not having Siakam. Do people don't understand accounting or they only live in the moment? What did we get from the Indiana transaction other than resulting Ingram? I like the trade, but lets not give Masai so much credit like this was a "good trade". I'm excited with Ingram and what he can do for this team, but lets hold management accountable. They basically traded Siakam (a similar player) for another similar player, but Siakam was home grown and loyal. It's not a win-win....its we did something it didn't work out, we're trying to salvage. What did we keep from Indiana? It literally all went into this trade minus a couple late picks last draft. We traded Siakam because of FIT with Scottie.

[@rulazigzag]

We also got Ochai and Walter with Ingrim now for Siakam. So altogether it was a good haul and also Ingrim is 27. He fits our timeline better.

[@jeffreym.8957]

If you watched the team involved here play basketball - the Raptors, you would realize they picked up Ingram (who is three and a half years younger), Walter (very good potential) and Ochai (who has been fantastic this year defensively and improving offensively).

[@sheldonc.9867]

It's really the return for pascal. Bruce brown was $20 mill, so another trade chip down the line

[@Sam19509]

Picking up Bruce Brown option was a dumb move he got hurt and tanked his trade value. Masai could have got a first round pick if he immediately traded him to a third team after we got him back in the package for Siakam. My guess is Brown if he can’t be flipped by the Pelicans before the deadline might get bought out then he most likely reigns with Denver for another title run on a minimum contract.😂😂

[@illDefine1]

@@Sam19509 Pelicans are in no rush to buy-out an expiring contract as non-contenders.

[@jordanne03]

Gotta resign him

[@Sam19509]

That is assuming he wants to resign here.😂😂

[@jordanne03]

@ ofc

[@gw3528]

Masai with his rolling the dice move again. For some reason I don’t think his style of play fits the team.

[@jeffreym.8957]

He's a great scorer. Not everyone is 6 foot 9 and perfect at everything.

[@AndrewWilliams-hq2qz]

We tried this retooling thing and it got us nowhere. Literally heading down the same path lol

[@DAnoChannel]

Really Happy Kelly is gone, he was the weakest link on the team dragging them down. Now they can play faster, stronger, better Defense.

[@jeffreym.8957]

Kelly is a very good offensive player and is a Canadian. Why the hate?

[@Dezea-w8r]

Better flip Barrett soon. Da fook another winger

[@jeffreym.8957]

Barrett is awesome - Canadian - and works his tail off.

[@warlocks.r.underrated8887]

Injury prone

[@the-unknown1016]

man I don't like it...IQ, RJ, Ingram and Scottie. Individual stats are great but doesn't lead to team wins...

[@shaolinrasta2289]

The team isn't trying to win plus like the video said, the trade was cheap.

[@jeffreym.8957]

Considering that group has never played a game together and two were All-Stars aren't we jumping the gun just a little?

[@DB_Cooper.]

Soft A F. He's just not an exciting player.

[@jeffreym.8957]

He's very exciting. A great scorer with wonderful skill.

[@mattwilliams7454]

Makes no sense. Should be stripping it down. Already in place to get a high lottery pick.

[@jeffreym.8957]

It makes perfect sense. Getting talent for very little and not impacting the tank much - Ingram is currently injured. It's not like the Raptors are going to pass ten teams in the standings.

[@TerryClifford-s5u]

Guys always hurt! And a free agent end of year! Dumb trade!

[@DAnoChannel]

Lol, 2019 says Hi

[@SlayerStreams-d5r]

Now if we trade for Kawhi again we can make a run.

[@Sam19509]

lol Clippers ain’t giving up on Kawhi yet they chose him over Paul George.😂😂

[@SlayerStreams-d5r]

@@Sam19509 it was a joke XD

[@SlayerStreams-d5r]

just like the clippers organization

[@SpicyCQ]

Free agent next year.. injured now.. hmmm. I don’t like it man

[@corbinwatts1374]

He’s not really injured anymore

[@roblockhart8410]

Pointless trade?

[@nathanblackburn6221]

Who?