What Beauty Is Like Behind Prison Bars | Shady | Refinery29

On this episode of Shady, our host, Lexy Lebsack, takes us into the world of beauty behind bars. In a place built for and by men, we discover a burgeoning world within women's prisons where inmates are studying cosmetology, but who are in need of a lot more. Press play on this week's Shady to see who really needs a makeover, the prisoners or the prison!
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[@MsMeteorShower]

"If you did that to a child, you're gonna lose your child. You're gonna go to jail. So why is it okay to do that to an adult?" Damn. Right on point.

[@briannaharper8901]

😢😭👏.

[@NorthernGreenEyes]

@Trigger Warning They're someone's child and we are ALL human beings also, Not every prison or Jail inmate is in there for murder or other heinous offenses.

[@lanadelqueen9155]

@I AM INDIVIDUAL an adult get physically harmed exactly like a child

[@madssul1865]

I AM INDIVIDUAL but they’re still people

[@imbored2638]

Maybe because a child has no way to escape while on the other hand an adult women put her self her in that situation, she did SOMETHING to go to prison and ok she only had to go through it for a year, a child would have to go through that until it was 18. There's a big difference. Please stop comparing a child to a grown ass women.

[@madelyngrace7762]

remember: prison is a place where the punishment is to lose your freedom, not your dignity or basic rights.

[@nazare334]

stacey gewin yes exactly most people in the comment section forgot that they are here for a crime

[@em-st2kq]

effy e what about the innocent people in prison though and the people who are there on jumped up charges.

[@em-st2kq]

stacey gewin prisoners are locked up to protect people in the outside world, they should have access to basic hygiene.

[@merb446]

@stacey gewin i think youre also forgetting that prison is used for rehabilitation aswell as a punishment. You think woman go back to jail because they remember they had makeup there?? No. They go back because alot of them dont develop the skills neccessary to go back into civilization, they dont have the basic resources available to them to survive outside of jail. By the time these woman leave they ALREADY have qualification and skills needed to turn their life around. You cant just treat them worse than the outside world cause that proves it doesnt work, youre just creating a vicious cycle.

[@beckylfreeman]

​@stacey gewin and Madelyn Grace ... Very interesting that this punishment doesn't seem to deter people to do better - facts speak to the high number of re-admissions to the system, which no doubt contributes to a highly profitable industry to the benefit of a select few. The US is the only country that profits from it's prison system, incarceration has increased because it's profitable for people to be criminalised - did you miss the clear signposting in the introduction?! It also signalled that in the US the prison system as a deterrent doesn't work.... Perhaps you'd also like to also consider the possibility that the majority of women are not criminals but victims as clearly highlighted at 4.56... I find it utterly baffling that you overlook such outrageous statistics!? Are you closet misogynists?? Let me spell it out for you, the majority of women in prisons according to the statistics in the video should actually be in hospital or in safe houses / therapeutic and supportive environments to protect and assist them!! To even think to deny any rights or any goods given this context is abhorrent! Please be kind enough to share where you were schooled so I can be sure I don't send my daughter there...

[@rikke7579]

Wtf. Imagine having to do sexual favors for a bit of toiletpaper. Not okay...

[@L0u3llaPUNK]

It's why one should shit directly on the floor and wipe their cheeks on the wall until the Gestapo gives you some. Who's going to stop them? No one.

[@abdirizakali5369]

@@L0u3llaPUNK Uhm, they'll review security footage and throw your ass in solitary confinement and assume you have a psychiatric disorder of some sort. Trust me, they could care less if you shit in the lunch area or your cell, as long as you're in prison you're mentally unstable to them. And you will go kuku once your in solitary confinement, it's what causes most inmates to have these disorders.

[@carlycrays2831]

And it's not even good toilet paper.

[@chard3921]

Infantry soldiers wife. Nurse. Mum of two why do you say that? because they’ve been in prison? way to judge people and kick them when they are down. they deserve to do time but they should not have to exchange sexual favours for BASIC NEEDS. you call yourself a mother but you should maybe teach your children not to have that same mindset as yourself.

[@chard3921]

Infantry soldiers wife. Nurse. Mum of two i have not shown sympathy for them. i am just saying that people in prison should not have to exchange sexual favours for tampons or pads. EVERYONE should have access to things such a pads, tampons, toilet paper. they are necessities whether or not they are in prison. i have seen the effect of poverty because i myself have been affected by it. it was just your comment that shocked me about women ‘sucking dick’. less about the people in prison or whatever. it’s just the fact you judged them because they are in prison.

[@angelaw6940]

Officers still contact them with sexual messages after they are released???? Disgusting😤

[@yakesiita22able]

Angela W . But how the officer got her number, it’s obviously she gave it to them, plus if she’s really disgusted by it why she keeps texting back.. when someone doesn’t want nothing you just cut the strings and thats it.. so to me its her fault too. Can’t only blame the officer

[@angelaw6940]

@@yakesiita22ableStill doesn't give the officer the right to send such vile messages. It is disgusting no matter who does it!

[@omggg94]

Ana Soto when you give someone your number, it does not mean you deserve inappropriate and unsolicited response. You can’t blame someone else for someone else’s actions. She gave a number, he decided to be inappropriate.

[@kikithepupper6774]

@@omggg94 Exactly. It's gross that the officer has the AUDACITY to even text her that. Disgusting.

[@angelaw6940]

@@omggg94 Agree 100%

[@wwondertwin]

I love these little documentaries that are disguised as talking about beauty but then the beauty part is really just a frame for the bigger issues, like exploitation of female prisoners in this clip.

[@estrellafish]

YASS!

[@nevaehdavis7691]

Amen

[@eva1937]

agreed!!

[@CpT_PrInCeSs]

That's how it has to be because of censorship 🙄

[@imbored2638]

Maybe you know they could just not fuck them and use shirts or something else as pads, no one made them do it, if little girls in Africa can do it so can they, Males get away worse treatment sometimes. Have you heard about *dropping the soap* ? Stop protecting them if your not gonna protect males too. Crime is crime no matter what is between your legs.

[@whospilledmybeans]

Sick how most women in prison have been sexually abused and have underwent domestic abuse.

[@izaacc8812]

If I worked there they would be treated well

[@Miranda-js7su]

@@izaacc8812 that's not really a great answer. It's about the abuse that's already happening in there. It doesn't help in the slightest to say oh but if I was there I wouldn't do it. No one's asking you if you would or not. And you aren't there? We should focus on making sure the people working in those systems don't have the ability to assault any of the prisoners in there. Not make comments on how if you were there which you aren't and won't be you won't do anything bad. It has nothing to do with it

[@kale3007]

@Steve Moruri no one said it was

[@ceriseblue550]

@Steve Moruri this guy is reaching

[@annabella9378]

@Steve Moruri Who said it was? We are discussing women's issues right now because this is what is being spoken about on the video. Just because we are shining light on female issues doesnt mean we dont care about men. And the fact that you brought up men's issues for men to silence women talking about their issues says a lot about you.

[@mariahdawn9712]

I THINK NO MALE COPS SHOULD WORK AT A FEMALE JAIL PERIOD

[@9nineinches287]

Absolutely true

[@Redacted_2061]

Definately..

[@yeetmuffin9008]

baddie it’s because male guards are doing most of the abuse, if you only have female guards you’ll take out a majority of the sexual abuse going on.

[@skinnylips7293]

baddie girl most police men are mostly the sexually abusers.

[@betsyguzman5422]

What about a cop that's lesbian? U never know or what if the Male cop is gay?

[@d4rkryd]

I don’t think women should have to buy feminine products in prison. It’s not a want , it’s a need.

[@user-wg1xk7ji1n]

Jungkooks Left nipple periods do not consist of merely staining a blanket.

[@lilyisupsidedown5150]

@@tonsofskelly2751 That's a very inaccurate way to explain periods. They will stain their clothes and anything they sleep or sit on, not to mention the germs and smell. Pads are a need, you dumb fuck.

[@ninthedition4994]

Jungkooks Left nipple Pads and tampons are not privileges, they should be rights. Especially to women in prison. Period blood is a safety hazard, it’s ridden with germs that could definitely bring harm to woman SLEEPING in it. Stained sheets aren’t an issue, it’s the fact that these women have to make do with a situation that they cannot help. This isn’t about being ungrateful, it’s about giving imprisoned woman basic human rights. Of course prison isn’t supposed to be a comfortable experience, but providing pads and tampons to inmates at the very least will not impede rehabilitation, it’s purely a hygiene issue.

[@ninthedition4994]

Jungkooks Left nipple Yes, they got themselves into their situations, whether it be from an unfortunate lack of judgement or because they simply didn’t think to consider consequences. BUT, in order to provide proper rehabilitation, these women need to focus on how they can take the steps to make their lives better instead of worrying about how they’re going to deal with their menstrual cycle. Plain and simple.

[@d4rkryd]

Jungkooks Left nipple kinda sad how you and the other two people who liked your comment think your right. periods don’t only stain but make women stink. period blood also carries germs , so wouldn’t it be best to contain it ? ive never had mines yet but i know woman still wanna make sure their period blood isn’t going everywhere. feminine products are just like clothes or a house. don’t sit their acting like these things women depend on is something they don’t need or don’t deserve. your a straight up idiot.

[@dashr.4649]

I LOVE that this video pretended to be about beauty in prison and expose the sexual abuse going on in prisons! Keep it up!

[@sophia.j.]

How do you know its pretend like SERIOUSLY

[@randomhuman1040]

It wasn't pretend i don't think

[@scrubbywubby2694]

sophia j.a I’m pretty sure originally it was supposed to be about beauty but she integrated the problems of what prison is like for females

[@Charlie-jo8zt]

🤣🤣😂😂😂😃😃😃😃yeah

[@Charlie-jo8zt]

Right? Like shouldn't a female correction place have female guards that can relate to those problems?jeez🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️I would be clicked on the video even if it said what you must do in prison to get necessities

[@amor2874]

“Maybe it’s not a matter of deserving these things, it’s a matter of rehabilitating people and giving them hope and keeping them from repeating the same cycles and coming back.” What a brilliant answer.

[@sarahbadgett7476]

Anna Morris Stidham that was a good answer. Before that she said she was in prison two times and it was pointless. From the normal civilian word we would ask how was it pointless besides you didn’t learn that you did something bad? But she’s right they need to be rehabilitated.

[@girligirlish1]

Weird as the woman just said that as i read your comment. 👀

[@diamondintheruffrecovery]

The girl Candice Altman that answered that question is actually my good friend. I love her! Counting down the days until she is home

[@yael763]

Nicole Carpenter Rooting for her!! 💪💕

[@xvenacavax]

Nicole Carpenter update? How is she?

[@user-fh7vq6hm3l]

This was low key about woman abuse. Not makeup. I like that. Nice video!

[@ceciliamarlenecardoso9278]

Boaaa

[@hannahf2304]

I say that they should only have female guards in women prisons and male guards in male prisons. If the inmates are kept separate so should the guards.

[@cocamila]

Please realise females aren’t the only gender coming in and out of prison. There are male visitors coming into visit their gf or wives in prison and male prison officers comes in handy when dealing with MALE visitors - I had one occasion where a male visitor tried to smuggle drug to his gf and got violent and had to be restrained by 5 male officers. If there wasn’t male officers around female officers would have hard time and probably some would be injured. Also male officers are helpful when separating fights or if absolute necessary using force when dealing with violence. Women can be incredibly strong especially when adrenaline is kicking in

[@natashanichole1027]

Maybe a male could work the front desk or security then, but watching women's showers and going to the bathroom? I think not

[@mag-narwhal]

Less women want to be prison officers but what they should do is they should only let female officers do intimate guarding like in the shower and the male officers should be kept more away I think

[@sfab5039]

I agree

[@Lucas-si7hc]

Only male officers in male prisons would be a terrible idea

[@legoisland]

'Maybe it's not about 'deserve', it's about rehabilitation.' She hit the nail on the head. Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should be about giving a person an opportunity to change or keeping a dangerous person off the streets. So many people have got it twisted.

[@KatrinaJoy225]

Who's paying for this? You?

[@isabelmartinez3093]

Katrina Recidivism cost the tax payer more in the long-run

[@mcedillo72]

Hello! It's PRISON! They went there because they made shitty decisions! Who cares how they are treated or if they feel pretty? Private rehab should is paid for out of their pockets prison is paid for with our taxes! They should have thought things out and made better choices and they wouldn't be in prison!

[@KatrinaJoy225]

@@mcedillo72 Thank God somebody has a brain.

[@bethanydawn83]

Prison SHOULD actually be partially about punishment. Getting caught for committing a crime means that person should be punished. BUT I also think that rehabilitation for people that genuinely want to change should also be a thing. Habitual violators clearly don't want to change.

[@MeteoricMarlin]

Guards should wear body cams like cops do. It protects both the inmates and the guards. And if they aren’t doing anything they shouldn’t be then they should have no reason to object.

[@s.s.2519]

MeteoricMarlin YES

[@MegaHotdiggity]

Interesting idea. But who ends up watching them? There needs to be a watchdog agency outside of the system watching these men.

[@MeteoricMarlin]

MegaHotdiggity Definitely needs to be a third party. That was the same issue that came up when cops started wearing body cams. The whole “who polices the police” issue.

[@CP-ko3xz]

Well as prisons are part of the capitalist system and are owned as private businesses, and with all the fear of government and "watchdogs" in United States, they prefer this system as it is part of their freedom to do "whatever they want with their private property", therefore abusing the people in it. We don't vote for the owners of those "business" amd no power on them, but ironically it's freedom. So yeah we need a not corrupted or money hungry third party on wich we have a say.

[@caitlinhicks1546]

the only issue is that not enough people want to see prisoners as people who are trying to change their lives to make this happen, and instead believe that this form of “punishment” is ideal for anyone who commits a crime.

[@conniethehoarder]

So what happens if they don't get pads? Just bleed on the uniform?

[@jacquelynklepinger2763]

Yeah. And then In some prisons they’ll even be punished for staining/ making the uniforms gross.

[@liamileson8567]

ᴀʟᴇxᴀ not funny

[@liamileson8567]

Jacquelyn Klepinger that’s ridiculous

[@kpstl26]

Yes Jacqueline is right. I have not been to adult prison but in juvenile detention, we had to ask for hours to be let out of cell to use the bathroom. U get 4 pads per month if you get any at all. Then I got in trouble (put in solitary for 3 days) for bleeding on my sheet at night. I was 14 and there for getting caught with 2 joints at school.

[@bellaausten8004]

Jacquelyn Klepinger that’s ridiculous if they don’t give them pads, where are they meant to bleed? Then they get punishment for bleeding on the uniform. Makes no sense

[@aillwen9802]

If men had periods those pads would sure be free..

[@rudyatleria1738]

Considering women get 63% shorter sentences than men for the same crime, they're damn lucky they are treated so well. Already way overprivileged and should be treated much more harshly for equality.

[@lakeatman504]

@@rudyatleria1738 Ikr, what about car insurance . Also you can get free pads at women center around the city.

[@jameliamorris6636]

Car insurance is about risk statistics..men are more risky so that's why they pay more (just like young adults). Also with feminine supplies, women don't want the inconvenience of going all the way across town for simple needs and essentials. It should be readily available. Almost like your car insurance. You dont wanna have to sell limbs for protection. Sorry I'm a business student so statistics and logic is my life 😂😁

[@bigoof8559]

Rudy Atleria I’m a woman and I 100% agree with you. Men and women should have equal sentence charges

[@Redacted_2061]

Bullshit... dont try to say dumb shit like that. Im not gonna list the reasons why you are talkimg shit.. but im a guy..im not straight i dont really care whi i have sex with.. and also i dont exactly feel like a "man" growing up ive looked for the difference between the two there is just about none.. not just because i fuck with both lol thats really got nothing to with it.

[@CorinneAgrell]

I was locked up with Kerry she really is a great person she made my last stay easier to get through we laughed alot and talked about our kids I'm so happy to have met her

[@1m4ya_]

Have you got back together with her

[@tegan-skyepannowitz1275]

Corinne Agrell who is Kerry?? I’m glad you had her

[@xiopaovid1215]

@@tegan-skyepannowitz1275 6:07 😊

[@snmfizz2164]

Nice bullshit

[@karmalicious27]

@@snmfizz2164 don't be a asshole have some respect she probably didn't and probably did u never know

[@big120treez]

"It's a 173 Billion $ "industry". Making it bigger than Target, Uber, & Netflix" Wow... That one statement speaks volumes.

[@ellaquestane9172]

Yet they can't even provide basic needs. Smh.

[@vc7442]

The prison system is disgusting. If you look into these huge companies we are all see day to day they have lobbyists down in DC lobbying into the prison system. Why? Because each body in there makes them money.

[@VengefulAngeI]

I really had to decide if I wanted to say this, but it should be said: I myself was at Lowell Correctional in FL back in 2006. Luckily, I was sentenced with most my time already served, and only did 4 months there. I wasn't there long enough to see much of what was mentioned here, but I did see a male officer literally beat up a fellow female inmate - who he already had handcuffed. The whole incident started over her mumbling her DOC number during headcount and he thought it was insubordinate to do so. Once he started screaming at her, she got a little bit of attitude back, but for real, ot wasn't much. He ended up handcuffing her, making threats, and to everyone's horror in our "dorm", he began punching her and shoving her into a concrete wall repeatedly. It was 13 years ago and I'll never forget it. No other officer was in there at the time. Some inmates began screaming for help on behalf of the victim, others pounded on the door and windows. The neighboring dorm officers eventually heard the racket and quickly removed both of them from the dorm. It was terrifying. We all assumed he would be suspended at least, but he was back the next day. She was put in solitary confinement, and I personally didn't see her again before I was released

[@charmainehall1769]

This was chilling to read. Really disturbing...

[@sfab5039]

Thanks for sharing, this prison needs to be reformed.

[@tiffanyleraa9975]

Wow this is so fucked up

[@clarissagiles734]

Sounds like what they’ve been doing to the colored population. The police have too much power

[@dailyllamagirl2448]

VengefulAngel omg...the suicide rate must be unbelievable

[@haleypopish8613]

“If there’s anything I’m good at, it would be makeup.” My heart 😭

[@kitt3526]

Her makeup look so good!!

[@infamousS709]

This is an excellent example of first rate journalism! Very well done

[@RegratorNovem]

Amen.

[@savantianprince]

Agree

[@lalasasmr2066]

agreed

[@samanthae.1002]

Indeed

[@neha7493]

Refinery 29 is absolutely killing it with the content. This is so informative and eye opening

[@refinery29]

+tararoy Yas! Thank you!!

[@jeiDie0001]

I have to agree. Loving it!

[@rubiholli2394]

YASSS

[@justlivinglife95]

Neha c🐸🦃🦃🦌🦌 c c.cx. R cccc. Cciollp. ??

[@e.beauchamp]

YES!!!

[@Joy2ThaWorld]

We had men guards when I was in prison but they walked the hallways and the yard. They weren't allowed inside our zones unless a fight or shakedown was going on.

[@rainbowdeathhearts1466]

isnt it messed up I felt the need to say you got lucky as if it is lucky not to be assulted and for male officers not to be able to be around naked females

[@checkmattee222]

@marconuts who got pregnant? The male or the female?

[@checkmattee222]

@@figmango7407 dude I'm not dumb, you can clearly see marconuts up there's comment☝️ is confusing as hell. he/she is saying male inmates get raped by female guards and "even pregnant"..I don't know what he/she's on about but it sounds like he/she's got some explaining to do lol

[@figmango7407]

queen 'Araweela ohh I see I’m so sorry

[@ellaquestane9172]

@marconuts Okay Child, First off, A male can not get pregnant, Only females can. Second off, I'm hella confused about your sentence, What your saying is that female guard raped males {Not saying it can't happen} and got them pregnant.....I think you need to go back to school because you clearly don't know that women are the only ones who can get pregnant. 🤦‍♀️

[@domovlogs4872]

my mom is in prison right now and this makes me sooo sad. I hope she doesn’t go through any of this.. how sick.

[@sfab5039]

I hope she gets out soon and safely.

[@adelinnaaa5199]

Domo Vlogs if she was in prison she did something wrong. when you do something bad don’t expect to be treated like a queen

[@bandrepairgal]

Adelinnaaa Just because she did something wrong and is in prison for it does NOT mean she should be subject to physical and emotional abuse from officers who are meant to keep peace and guard them. Just because she did a bad thing, it does NOT mean she deserves to be abused or have to scavenge for basic necessities.

[@vincevega730]

Adelinnaaa thank you too many people in this world think their actions don’t have consequences well sorry she did something wrong she is going to prison not therapy

[@oneatlas6508]

@@adelinnaaa5199 asking to be treated like a human and not be abused isn't "being treated like a queen", what kind of logic is that?

[@ls-rk6hw]

it kills me to see how people misunderstand those in prison and are brainwashed into thinking that they're all bad. it's just so painful to see how inmates are living in horrible conditions, overpopulated prisons, minimal access to healthcare... and yet everyone still wants to believe that they're worthless.

[@mcedillo72]

You make stupid choices you get stupid prizes! They are in prison for a reason! And they expect to be treated like it's spa day?

[@IcedLipGloss]

@@mcedillo72 u really are an ignorant asshat....since when did providing prisoners with BASIC necessities become equivalent to having a spa day??????? why is it so bad that these women are learning skills while being incarcerated??? would it be better to have them locked up in a cage all day so that when they're released they are all absolutely useless to society? like cmon wake the fuck up dumbass

[@mcedillo72]

@@IcedLipGloss IcedLipGloss it would appear that the ignorant dumb ass is you! How are beauty products the equivalent of basic needs? They are obviously useless otherwise they would not be in Prison!!!! They are already getting housing, food and healthcare for free and you think they should be rewarded with makeup and a day at the salon?

[@mcedillo72]

Oh wait I just realized you're probably speaking from experience and are one of these loosers that feels entitled and wants everything given to them!

[@IcedLipGloss]

@@mcedillo72 the beauty salon is to help the women acquire skills that will help them in the real world tf. are u really this dense? also, inmates hve the PAY for all of those extra little luxuries so STFU. its always the most ignorant ones w the most to say

[@clown-cult96]

Okay then, fine. You don't wanna give women sanitary pads or tampons? You clean up the mess. Or your provide them their sanitary products. Your choice.

[@baddie8125]

don't do illegal shit don't have to deal with not having a pad

[@baddie8125]

@@jensinthepark hygiene is important, but that's up to them to figure it out life isn't fair you can't have everything handed to you some people have shitty deals it's part of life not everyone gets a fair hand

[@baddie8125]

@@jensinthepark then that's on them they can sure as hell focus on getting reablited if they weren't concerned about breaking the law and still wanted to do whatever they did if they made the efforts to put themselves getting order in bad spots they can make THE efforts to put them selves in good spots periodt.

[@baddie8125]

@@jensinthepark and the prisoners don't care about the law it's a win, win and prisoners anywhere would be more than happy to be in America because in most prisons around the world they really don't care about them nd just end up murdering them, what's a little period blood? I'm a girl it's not that big of a deal bruh

[@baddie8125]

@@jensinthepark I can't put it into any simpler terms it's not that hard boo to understand

[@jjpepper7071]

those prison guards should be the ones imprisoned.

[@madsemilblomgren]

Arghhh, the ones imprisoned should as well be in prison though I can see whatcha thinking✌️

[@ceciliamarlenecardoso9278]

Mandou bem

[@eurekamreum5458]

2:15 "You did a very good job" and the proud smile of the lady in the back melted my heart

[@victorianme3668]

This is true nightmare. Thank you for exposing it and educating people on this!

[@emmadrinksbleach3246]

Victorianme 666th liKe

[@keemarie1]

But I don’t like how they are acting like it’s only women’s prisons. This same thing happens in male prisons and not just by guards but other inmates. MEN ARE BEING RAPED THE SAME AS WOMEN ARE!!

[@gabm5967]

Kayleigh Myers don’t undermine this story by saying men get it too. Dont “me too” your way into making sure men are noticed, we know its happening, but most people dont realize that women of color and just women in general are being taken advantage of and blackmailed by officers in prison.

[@ftcupid4466]

actually (as a woman, btw), the percentage of men being raped in prison is higher than women. go figure.

[@jesusmonier3984]

Victorianme women kill too.....

[@pandapower5902]

I know women can abuse women, but I don't think they should let men be guards in female prisons.

[@rachellep537]

agree

[@pandapower5902]

Yeah, I know some people would say that is sexist but let's be real, the majority of abuse is coming from male guards according to most female prisoners. And having to be naked in front of the male guards all the time, can be traumatic for a lot of these women that have probably had sexual abuses (mostly by men) in the past, and what kind of man seeks out becoming a guard in a women's prison in the first place? It doesn't seem like there is any oversight into what the guards are doing, it's like a playground for the ones that go there just for the purpose of finding easy victims.

[@bachlava7]

You need some men though. Men are just stronger. You need men to be able to be there when the women riot and try to shank you. Women can be just as vicious/malicious. Don't discount their sex for anything. So the only thing men will have is their strength/size so some men would be a necessity.

[@pandapower5902]

what about in male prisons though? why do female prisons need male guards when in male prisons it would be the same thing, male prisoners/male guards, they'd be equal in strength, if strength is the issue. Then by your argument you would need super mutant creature guards, one step above the male prisoners.

[@bachlava7]

We aren't talking about male prisons. Nice try to deviate from the subject though. Fallicious strawman and red herrings won't work.

[@user-og2el3gd4w]

GIRL... PADS SHOULD BE NORMAL AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE IT

[@rcn2086]

I really love this journalist. She’s looks so serious and determined to prove her point.

[@spacediof]

I’m really loving the mix of content from Refinery lately

[@refinery29]

+rmandaley Thanks for hanging out!

[@stephanie.420]

It’s all white tho lol

[@spacediof]

Stephanie 420 No it’s not. A quick look through their channel and you’d see that’s not true.

[@stephanie.420]

Romae Daley how can you defend not showing African American women when talking about women in prison?????? Like are you fucking kidding me??

[@spacediof]

Stephanie 420 I’m not arguing with a delusional person on the Internet. Have a nice day ✌🏾

[@idab2605]

Oh lord! This is what makes refinery 21 different, you explore aspect of beauty that almost no one talked about before. This video was so alarming and tragic. The pain these women went through had nothing to do with “justice”, I couldn’t believe it when she read the txt messages the male guard send to her after her release. I’m still in shock of what I have just saw.

[@velmaw7474]

Ida C he was wrong, but why was she talking to him after being incarcerated? Leave your past in the past! ✌🏽 😎

[@CP-ko3xz]

Velma W maybe HE contacted her and she just vaguely responded? Way to blame the victim much? Anyway, he's the one with power, so he has the responsability not to respond or cut contacts due to his moral responsabilities. He failed. And why would she want to keep an abuser in her life?

[@spunkylilmonkey101]

Velma W i still talk to officers, chaplins, staff from lowell. The good ones that looked out and helped me while I was there. Some reach out and make sure your doing ok and staying out of trouble.. Others reach out acting like they care and then switch up and say ignorant things like that.

[@samanthamarrie9393]

“Sure idc” - a wholee mood lmao

[@Ashineesa]

Lmbo, I like your profile picture where is it from?

[@loveleonk]

@@Ashineesa it's from the tv show beetlejuice

[@loveleonk]

@@Ashineesa just search up "lidia from beetlejuice*

[@Ashineesa]

Itzel Lopez thanks

[@Anonymous-eo2er]

Some people just don’t understand. The punishment in prison isn’t about not allowing sanitary pads or toilet paper, it’s being locked away is. You can’t just say “they deserve it”.

[@angela9685]

Anonymous [26490] they do deserve what ever time they get served from whatever action they did but feminine products are needed to STAY healthy and clean. i’m not saying “they deserve it” but i’m saying that they need basic hygiene. just like they give showers-they should at least be rationed.

[@Godistheanswerministries]

angela You are correct.

[@higuys1860]

IsaiahTheOne yes what the fuck

[@boxinggirl7779]

IsaiahTheOne YES- 1000% YES

[@higuys1860]

IsaiahTheOne Men don’t need pads or tampons sir

[@ellenadickerson9808]

We need more female media platforms producing content like this. As a young woman, it is awesome to watch empowered women use their position to report and shed light on issues negatively affecting their female counterparts! Keep it up R29!

[@dollparts6835]

This is so beautiful. The interviewer did such a great job with the inmates and treated them with respect. I love that.

[@chogidie5186]

Tampons and pads should be provided. Do you really want blood everywhere?

[@Aaliyah-vr3zq]

WTF IS A TAMPOD THEE UNEDUCATED SWINE wait did you actually thing it was a tampoD Edit: and a year later, I just realized how rude that was! I should've known better, so I'm sorry Chogidie! Not an excuse tho.

[@lailonnib]

pickled pickle chill out stupid damn did you ever think maybe a language barrier or different places call them different things .....

[@oonaverse]

KD Bradshaw or typos-

[@lailonnib]

「opal arts」 or that 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@dawnishadixon9510]

why are you yelling it was probably just a typo

[@LuLuslime15]

I loved the first cosmotology student's answer to the question of "what would you say to those people who don't think women in prison deserve this program?" What a great answer she had!!

[@yunsuuu]

It actually helped myself think differently too, like even when I think I don't deserve some things bc of low self esteem, I still should take care of myself

[@alison8629]

I've managed salons in the area surrounding Coffee Creek, and the stylists leaving that program are FANTASTIC. The educators are great and the woman are taught more than just beauty. I wish I could've gone through the beauty program without the criminal record.

[@refinery29]

+alisonpeulen That's great to hear!

[@Trailblazers323]

I’m a Stylist and have previously taught Cosmetology for AVEDA. I’ve always wanted to teach in a prison but don’t know how.

[@elise6080]

Why tf do they not get tampons???? Like some girls myself included have periods so big that pads don’t work and that’s not my fault it’s just the way I was madd

[@Katie-if4tg]

Jenny Cork than don’t commit a crime and you wont have to use nothing. It’s that simple. All of these women knew before breaking the law that prisons don’t give tampons so if that’s your main concern than don’t break the law. And also. The reason these prisons don’t give the inmates all these luxuries is because it’s fucking PRISON. If they gave inmates every demand they wanted than what punishment is that? People would just keep breaking the law because they aren’t scared to go to jail because they know they’ll have it easy while they’re in there. Then get out and do it again and the cycle would never stop. Prison is not supposed to be a fun experience. It’s supposed to give you the consequence of your actions. It’s supposed to give you discipline because you committed a crime. Just like your parents would discipline you as a child, if that child grows up and is an adult who commits a crime than who is supposed to discipline them? That’s where the prison system comes in. If you can’t act like a contributing citizen to your society than someone else will come in to make sure you get a consequence to learn your lesson. Now wether you learn that lesson or not is up to each individual in the prison. You choose wether you want to be a changed person or not. But after you break into someone’s home and steal their shit for drug money I don’t think that person deserves to get eyelash extensions. Hell thats a luxury on the outside that most women who never commit crimes don’t get! The more luxuries the more the inmates demand for even more luxuries and then prison becomes something not fear. Which in turn would lead to more people committing crimes because they know it will be easy in prison. Now I don’t agree with the guards taking advantage of the inmates but trust me..you want our government to keep the prison systems..

[@anyaburniston4765]

Katie 34 some prisons do give tampons

[@Stopwar1234]

Katie 34 ignorance at its finest. It’s unconstitutional to treat prisoners like they are not people. Stop judging and being immature...it’s tiring.

[@nobody1748]

@@Katie-if4tg you should just delete your account and never write or speak again. You're so ignorant I hope you're never in a situation like this and have to eat your own disgusting words.

[@duckmouse-ts5yx]

Katie 34 you are disgusting.

[@lovejademonet]

Thank you for making these documentaries. They are so important. I feel for these women - they need rehab, not abuse!

[@CattyMcMeow]

The sanitary pads thing, somehow, was the thing that irked me the most about this. How sad is that?

[@Jessica14152]

Men should NOT be allowed to work in women’s prison. People need to push for that rule, Because this is ridiculous. Plus non violent criminals should not be in prison. Like they said being locked up should be a punishment, but it should mainly be a way to help. Stop treating non violent criminals like animals and we would have less repeat offenders. Plus having more mental health services, and drug education would help before they even got to the point of being locked up or prevent going down the wrong path in the first place.

[@fabx725]

What about lesbian guards then ?

[@kirbybrown6926]

Woman are in male prisons

[@girligirlish1]

I agree, shitty drug charges and fraud ect just isnt a crime that needs prison time , like that rapists, murderers, abusers , pedos and those who endanger the public should be the ones locked up. Also i do think men prison guards would be more likely to sexually exploit the women than a female guard

[@lanafuller4949]

I don't feel women should work in men's prisons either.

[@binbin7760]

Now of days. Gay, Lesibian, bi any gender can rape. It cant be helped. More security cameras and such would

[@IntoBlackHouse]

we need to remember some people were born into the world with no support, people treating them like they are worthless and disposable, abused, and little hope that they can succeed or they are lovable. They might end up on a destructive path that puts them in jail, so the best thing to do is give them purpose and instill a better sense of self. That is why programs like this should exist.

[@alyssatapia7182]

Abc xyz ppl don't care. Everyone is out for themselves. These ppl won't change cause the ppl outside and the system won't change.

[@comecorrect1]

+Alyssa Tapia That's right this comment is very relevent today. These are just the cold hard facts. Sad but a daily reality of life.

[@alyssatapia7182]

comecorrect1 I see it every day how ppl are. They would kill themselves to get some where.

[@dabroncobabe7441]

@@alyssatapia7182 I hope that not all people are only in it for themselves. After watching this video, my first thought was how can I help some of these women?? Is there something I could do, tutoring, visiting, anything that could benefit them?? (In all fairness, my own children say I'm very naive about people and their motives. Maybe so, but I prefer to be optimistic than expect everyone around me to be awful.)

[@pei420]

"If you did that to a child, you're gonna lose your child. You're gonna go to jail. So why is it okay to do that to an adult?" To the people who disagree with this because "they're not children", you're really ignorant. The common factor is that a child is not in the position of power; their entire lives and wellbeing is in the hands of the people in power. Sound familiar?

[@victoriawanja8965]

I wish everyone could understand this logic. It's really depressing seeing MEN ESPECIALLY in this comment section, justifying the abuse of these women, saying that they don't deserve access to sanitary products because they're criminals...

[@ellie2050]

This is a really good way of explaining this!!!

[@writitripathy]

People should actually understand this.

[@KyleEvra]

Even I understand that. They are abusing their power over these Women.

[@LittleAyahandToshplayshow]

Her: When those little things are taken away, you don’t realize how important they are until you don’t have them.

[@RebeccaLyn]

Lowell doesn’t give a crap about the women in their prison. I live near Ocala. I have friends in Lowell. I know what goes on in there and you didn’t even touch on most of it.

[@melijuana4205]

Rebecca Lyn Oberstadt what did they miss?

[@RebeccaLyn]

Quite a bit. There is a LOT that goes on that only inmates and their friends and family knows about. I know several people who have been in there and are still in there. its horrible. They feed you food that looks like Alpo dog food. They withhold mail. I used to send care packages with paper, envelopes, and stamps and people never got their items. If you put money on their accounts they don't notify them that they can use it and the money gets eaten up by the system for "housing" fees. There is abuse by the guards be it verbal, physical, or mental. One of my friends died at Lowell because she had an iron deficiency and they would not give her anything to help with that like a special diet, or vitamins, which other inmates do get; not to mention she literally froze to death. She wrote me about a week before she died saying how cold she was and they would not even give her a blanket. Its sad the treatment that these inmates go through. it is not a cakewalk with tv, free phone calls, a bed, hot water, and clean living conditions. If inmates want to work on their cases or get help with legal research they are allowed 1 hour a week if that to look stuff up. I have an AA in Legal Studies and a Paralegal degree, among other college degrees and I know how long it takes to just research one thing, and how you have to pull one book to look up a statute, then another to coincide with that, so on and so forth. Nor to mention trying to write the judge, your Public defender has over 400 plus cases and once they are in Prison the system does not give a crap about them. If you want me to record a video for my channel about some of the things that go on in Marion County Jail, on up to the various prisons that women from the jail get sent to I will be more than happy to record video's on them., Not to mention I have hand written letters to show as proof of treatment.

[@samseery1595]

Rebecca Lyn Oberstadt I’d 100% watch if you made a video

[@chummychimchim]

@@RebeccaLyn Make a video please

[@riverdeep399]

Rebecca Lyn Oberstadt -what kind of issues do they face?- Scrap that. Damn, the reason these prisons do programmes like these is because they get extra money in the form of grants from the government. Your right, the bottom line is what they care about, no rehabilitation and not people. Good lord. I am sorry that yoyr friend passed away due to their direct negligence. That is absolutely abhorrent. I'm sorry that ladies are still suffering in there. As you say, many peoples image of prison is s luxurious one these days, if you could do a video that would really be something. I would share, repost and spread the word.

[@WHHB1223]

First of all, non-violent offenses should not result in prison sentences. Second, men should not work in female prisons. Common sense. Duh.

[@XxlilmewmewxX]

I think that non-violent offenses like drug possession should be delt with with imprisonment since prisons are for rehabilitation. Some of the women in the video mentioned that a lot of the time the women just need to be removed from the situation to improve their lives. It wouldn't even be an issue if the system weren't so corrupted by bad people. but also.. yeah. no men in women's prisons. men in private places with women is never a good idea. especially when the men have so much power.

[@orion2169]

@@XxlilmewmewxX why would you just remove every woman from prison??

[@XxlilmewmewxX]

@@orion2169 reread what I said.

[@orion2169]

@@XxlilmewmewxX yea you said they need to be removed from the situation... Which basically means that they will leave jail for no reason

[@XxlilmewmewxX]

@@orion2169 the situation being drug abuse. not prison. did you watch the video? I said it was referenced in the video.

[@nailzbylylah]

The fact Tampons and Pads fall under ‘beauty’ blows my mind

[@TheCreativeSk8er]

The cosmetology thing is really nice, that's what they also have in men's prison, so its nice that people in prison can get a good haircut and some make up. Its nice that people are being rewarded for good behavior with untangable thins like confidence

[@mynameisgone7274]

No they have basic haircuts

[@bailey0505]

Its to reward them with good behavior, she literally said in during the beginning how competitive it was to get into that program. The sole reason being that you have to have a good track record and wanting to change. Its obviously doing much more good than harm, i think its great

[@luci3819]

"thats not a punisment, thats abuse" YES

[@LindsayC33]

Now THAT is a step in the right direction for positive rehabilitation in prison

[@priscillalalalah]

A lot of these women did not choose to be in the situation they were in. They were brought up into abuse, rape, violence drugs and don't know how to live life any other way. It's so lucky for you to say those things, as it looks like you haven't walked a mile in any of their shoes. You and no one else has no right to judge. These and other people in prison need help. Have some empathy.

[@E_MZ_]

They just said the *majority* of the women are in prison for non-violent offenses. No one is talking about murderers. And the reason they're often times repeat offenders is because once they get out, they have a difficult time getting hired (because of their record) and go back to dealing. That's why these programs are important. Prisons are too expensive and wasteful. We need more programs like this.

[@Celine1Love]

KZbin User yoooo chill haha no ones saying mass murderers should be rehabilitated. They said in the video its not easy for the women to get I to the program. Its only if you're non violent and have extremely good behaviour. So yeah... Chill

[@angelicdaisy4414]

KZbin User you keep using that oh you're a liberal shit on everyone, even if you've murdered you still need help to not do so again

[@Mars-uz3xt]

KZbin User I'm a hardcore conservative woman and I believe that it's fair to give people creativity. They're not animals and like they said IN THE VIDEO you need a track record of good behavior and a desire to change. I'm pretty sure the officers can spot bullshit "I wanna change" statements since the program is very expensive and top tier according to the video.

[@Chris-fe1kx]

I’ve been binge watching your documentaries now.... keep em up!

[@temwanikaumba8234]

That "sure i don't care" was such a mood

[@Catsandgraffiti]

When I was locked up, the only makeup we had on commisssry was mascara. So we improvised. We would get red M&M's and vaseline to make lipgloss and ground coffee would make a bronzer. Mascara was used for liquid eyeliner as well. Makeup is a big deal for us girls. It helped me feel feminine and confident, which is very easy to lose when you're locked up. It was my 1st and only time in jail, which I received a year probation for a non violent misdemeanor. I did 2 months for a violation of probation. We live and we learn. I am not proud that I landed myself in that situation, but no regrets, because in those 2 months I was able to learn a lot about myself and a lot about how the system works. (At least in the US) I now want to go to college to be a social worker.

[@kstreet]

It's amazing how creative people can be when they're limited, because we all need to feel that we have options in our lives. Even people who might not necessarily label themselves "creative," or "innovative," can surprise themselves. Keep learning & good luck!

[@kitteekittee4010]

Kelly Sloan god bless you.good fir you.You can and will do it

[@vampiraJ]

Wishing you well for your future Kelly!

[@hailstormk9417]

Wishing you a beautiful and wonderful future! I’m happy your able to turn you life around for the better,you seem like a lovely woman that definitely deserves what you have now! Good luck and stay strong,Don’t let your past beat you down and please don’t look back! 😊

[@amandakaricunningham4116]

Dnt forget putting water on colored pencils for eyeliner.

[@bellarodrgz]

Hopefully journalism like this about REAL womens issues will continue to be posted, and hopefully changes will be made after the awarness is raised

[@mynameisgone7274]

What about mens conditions in prison which are far worse

[@mynameisgone7274]

What about mens conditions in prison which are far worse

[@trini2DBone134]

@@mynameisgone7274 ask a man to go a documentary about it

[@honeytopics3999]

I have a solution, female officers FOR FEMALE INMATES!!

[@paulinevanchhawng9185]

Common sense ikr

[@milkyyyyway]

I'm a women and as I agree that whats happening behind bars is bad However I don't agree with this statement Thats like saying a women can't work in a men's prison How are people gonna pay the rent? There are more mens prisons then female prisons so you saying only females should work in a female prison makes the police officer job harder to get As many female officers would lose their job Please put some logic in your statement and don't act out of anger

[@jeruford]

It’s crazy how prisons are a place where if someone innocent were to get locked up, they’d probably leave a criminal.

[@cyvonne1000]

Everyone should watch this. There needs to be more awareness of thus countries criminal justice system and the horrible living conditions, abuse, and dehumanzing that goes on in our jails and prisons. Especially for non violent offenders that need rehabilitation instead of being stuck in the revolving door of our criminal justice system.

[@thankyounext365]

Lowkey having a moral dilemma. I don't think women in prison should have makeup or the femininity should be a priority to the prison system. But I know they shouldn't be abused like this.

[@Paula-yl5gq]

So would you say that's fair too for murderers and rapists?

[@kittycat802]

I mean if can't do time don't do crime ... You hear her, she said it's her 3rd time there, that means she could of change 2 of those times

[@BhappyD]

Erica Varnado I can very much relate to your feelings, I feel the same. Nobody should be abused, used, or denied their basic human rights, regardless of what crime they may have committed. Nobody deserves that, and it's despicable that this is the current state of the prison system. But I also feel that people who commit crimes, and are being punished by serving a jail sentence, shouldn't have access to "luxuries" of life that go beyond the things that are a basic human need or necessity. Makeup and beauty are not essential items, and even on the outside of jail in regular society, they are often seen as a privilege to many people. When you choose to commit a crime punishable by jail time, you are essentially choosing to live a life where only your basic needs will be met (which unfortunately isn't always the case, as seen here). You are choosing to leave the "luxuries" of life behind, however small or large they may be. Prison shouldn't be "fun" (not that it is, even with makeup, but you get the point). I do 100% support rehabilitation and vocational programs for inmates who want to do better for themselves, and I think they are an amazing thing, but inmates having access to not only just makeup and hair tools, but eyelash extensions, nail polish, and other pricey beauty luxuries isn't something I fully support. Inmates can be taught cosmetology skills without having things done on themselves. It's a tricky thing for me to have an opinion on, as I truly do feel for inmates who are stuck in the system but want to better themselves. I can't imagine how difficult it must be behind bars, and to no longer have the freedoms you're used to, but I'm also not going to be committing a crime to find out for myself either. I sympathize with those women who are putting in the work and effort to be rehabilitated, and I commend them for it. I want them to succeed. I just don't quite know where that line should be drawn between being them punished for their actions with only their basic needs being met and then not knowing what is truly needed for successful rehabilitation. As someone who has never committed a crime, I can't even afford eyelash extensions, regular manicures, and regular hair maintenance (only once every one to two *years* do I get a $10 haircut). I *love* makeup and beauty, and I know how good it can make you feel sometimes, but I do see it as a luxury. And especially in prison, where people are supposed to be serving time as punishment, I don't understand how access to those expensive luxuries to be used on other inmates is included in their punishment. I just feel like there are other methods to teach cosmetology, like utilizing mannequins, rather than human inmates, to practice skills on. Like you said though, it is bit of a moral dilemma. I don't know the right answer, or if there is one, and I'm not exactly sure where the line should be drawn when it comes to having luxuries in prison. Regardless, the current system in place needs a complete overhaul, as the conditions, environment, lack of rehabilitation funding, and non accessibility of basic human needs and rights is atrocious. But unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon. My heart goes out to the inmates who are currently being (or have in the past) subjected to the type of abuse displayed in this video. 💕

[@cyvonne1000]

Kitty Cat yea but thats easier said than done. Once ur in the system is almost impossible to get out of it. Especially if your a drug offender. If u do get releases u are then put on parole or a drug court system which requires u to have a job but u have to be in meetings almost everyday and be able to be called in for random drug screens several times a week. Its so hard finding somewhere that will hire u and put up with all of that, let alone if u already have a felony offense. They need more rehabilitation instead of dehumanizing. Then helping ppl after release to live a more productive life so ppl dont have to keep going back to what they no. Alot of ppl dony have family tp turn to for help or have the money to afford rent or a car. So there really is alot more tp consider than just well just stop making the same mistake. Addiction is a disease and needs to be treated and it takes more than just not using.

[@Butterflymentality]

Would female guards for a female prison be a bad idea? /: just curious

[@dajadowdell8367]

Nessa no....its just that it can be hard to get good female security guards since its not appealing to every girl

[@lifelove6164]

Nessa you also.have to keep in mind female guards abuse them too. I did an intern at a jail for two years and the female guards could be just as vicious as the molar guards. It wasn't uncommon for a female inmate to be having a relationship with a Male guard and his female coworker.

[@vampiraJ]

myisha watson damn :(

[@phoenixrising8240]

Nessa Doesn't matter if they are female. Sometimes they are just as bad. There's usually a mix of both in most prisons.

[@Hoorkat]

If you think gaining employment should be based on gender, then no. Maybe we can only have female gynecologists or male proctologists cause wHo KnOwS, why would someone choose a career revolving specifically around the other sex unless they have predatory intentions right? Maybe we should stop hiring white people to patrol borders, or sending white cops to patrol black neighborhoods, cause why expect someone to be able to competently do their job if there is a preconceived notion of bias? I wouldn't say bad idea so much as flat out dumb, nice double standard there. Fact is, people exist in their minds and are shaped around their culture growing up, not their gender or ethnicity. #1 rule of egalitarianism: Women are just as bad as men, and men are just as bad as women. Being male or female doesn't predispose you to being a trash person one way or another. The fact this even crossed your mind is a good sign you need to expand yourself a bit broader.

[@emmageer7393]

candice looks like such a good person and she’s so beautiful too🥺

[@crystal-jr4jp]

11.21 “sure i don’t care” lmao love her

[@oonaverse]

crystal h 11:21

[@dawson588]

I didn’t even realize that these programs went on. I randomly clicked on this video and I’m so glad that I got a different side of the women inside of prisons and that I could see the importance of the small things in life

[@MimiAyon1121]

Dawson II

[@carolinaelichalt7913]

Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Refinery. As a journalism student, and as a female, this was an eye opener.

[@taylorfowler2742]

carolina elichalt you look 7

[@crusader2338]

Taylor Again I was going to say that!

[@taylorfowler2742]

CatsRCool haha lol

[@theokicks8977]

I have a burning desire to see those abusive guards put in the very cells they lurk over and yes LURK not guard, LurK there need to be ways to combat abuse and there needs to be incentivized plans for guards to help monitor each other and report coworkers who decide to become the problem

[@theokicks8977]

@Luna Lovegood I can't watch that kinda stuff, I'll faint or vomit or both.

[@toxicbambi6208]

I grew up in Wilsonville. Lived 10 minutes from Coffee Creek. I'm glad to hear they're taking small steps to help incarcerated women. Hopefully bigger steps will come.

[@RawringTaters]

Totally agree, Im from PDX and to see how good the program is going is awesome. I hope they can think of more ways to help and protect inmates.

[@keira...]

No one should go to jail for being addicted to drugs. She should be in rehab not a prison, its a physical and mental condition where they feel they must have the drug in order to feel okay. Its sad that people are still going to jail for addiction

[@sharroon7574]

Yes but armed robbery is dangerous to others. No easy answers.

[@keira...]

Shar Roon thank you from the bottom of my heart for stating the obvious!! But if she was helped with her addiction rather than feeling threatened by the law, that would not have happened

[@josephgavin5325]

Also drug dealers should go in jail. Not someone who is addicted but someone who is the enabler should go to jail

[@colleenb5536]

Keira she went to jail for posession of illegal drugs I think. That would be the most logical reasons

[@breadfan_85]

It wasn't for use or possession, it was for selling/supplying. Drug addicts who are picked up for possessing small amounts usually just get a slap on the wrist and drug court. In Arizona anyway. Speaking from experience. That or she's in a three strikes state, in which case, she offended three or more times before being sent to prison.

[@SteviiLove]

I've always wondered why non violent offenders and violent offenders were housed together. Why aren't there facilities for these non violent people to actually help them? I'm fairly certain that others would prefer our taxes go to actually helping the people that need it instead of putting them in a place that doesn't really help them. It is nice to see prisons helping their inmates, I only hope it expands

[@lawnmowercum]

i realised that those fences look like the fences in my old school lol

[@SouthernBelleReviews]

It's not a coincidence I promise

[@alyssagrace8332]

Women should have women guards so they understand things like their period and provide them what they need. There should definitely be extremely high standards to become a prison guard.

[@totalrandomness4543]

Alyssa Grace the reality however, is that a prison officer is far from a desired job. In most cases guards work for a couple of years and decide they've seen enough. Prisons are short staffed with little room to pick and choose

[@KTTMFG]

Oh shut up

[@aaAa-bp1yd]

xBotcho You must be a male. You have no idea how terrible it is for women to have their periods, as it is extremely painful and flows a lot. Of course they'd want female guards because they can provide them with the basic necessities they need.

[@KTTMFG]

aa Aa yeah and they can have male guards too. And also I go through extreme pains too.

[@aaAa-bp1yd]

xBotcho I'm sure everyone does, but would you like going through pain every two days a month which lasts the entire day? I'm not saying woman have it more tough then men, but to say that "oh we have pains to" is just a terrible point to bring up. Once you get your periods it is a NIGHTMARE. Some people end up in the hospital because of how bad it hurts and how much they bleed.

[@lunar..eclipse]

The host is great, she really respected and engaged with the inmates

[@rose9398]

I think one of the major issues here is that prisons are privatized!!

[@checkmattee222]

They should turn some prisons in to rehabilitation centres and call them "rehabilitation prisons", coz jail isn't really doing any healing for inmates. Most criminals are people who were in a bad place, making bad decisions, but underneath all that tough, there's a good soul. No matter how manipulative a person can be, you can tell the criminal who wants to make a change in their life, and the one who's a lost case.

[@gothicpinkk]

Those "officers" should be the ones behind bars.

[@jessicajenkins7148]

phantasmagoria 🙌🏼 agreed

[@danadoherty417]

Couldn’t agree more

[@kennythekoala4759]

Little Leon No one said otherwise, but there are so many guards that do sexually harass and rape inmates, those guards should be behind bars wether it be men or women.

[@molly8144]

Im so triggered by the officers, I'm so scared to ever be in prison because of this

[@taiyonatiare7918]

Yes but that doesnt take away from the fact that those women deserve to be in there as well.

[@aprilmartinez5535]

I love how Refinery29 digs deep & explores so many different subjects! You guys are awesome 👌👏👏

[@refinery29]

+aprilmartinez Thanks for hanging with us!! :)

[@aprilmartinez5535]

Refinery29 thanks for the awesome videos 😀

[@aleyahmalone5012]

April Martinez I like their relaxed content too

[@jalisaalanaye1662]

Refinery29 yesssssss thank you foreal these videos are so diverse I love watching so many different ones !

[@albertagrown]

Can the public donate to this program? I'd love to donate to programs like these to ensure these women have the tools necessary to complete this course with everything they need! From cosmetics, brushes, hair tools, etc. Right down to the little things! Like enough bobby pins, hair ties, rat tail combs, towels and capes! Can anyone let me know if donating to this is even possible? Thank you!

[@aflower6955]

Possibly the officers will take them ..

[@dirt9081]

i discovered this channel yesterday and i’m obsessed. thank you for shedding light on such important topics with such transparency!

[@RedWindWoman]

The system IS the problem. Some of us women have been through sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional neglect. To put it short, some people don't grow up with the white picket fence, education, good parents, etc. So it becomes a cycle that some children don't have the best start, and then we end up in prison. And then the system becomes our parent, and we are at it's mercy. And we all k now, that this system is not perfect and there are bad people out there in a position of power, that abuse their position on a population that has been living an abused life. BUT, i believe that this creates the most beautiful people walking this earth, because such a hard life, creates a closer relationship with God and the understanding that is called empathy.

[@lexy2035]

Thank you for this

[@Rebreakings]

thank you for being one of few who understand that its not just "stay out of prison" its how you were raised and how you are living as well. some people cant get necessities they need outside of prison and it causes bad habits and choices. If you are privileged to have a good life then i'm glad but not all women or men have that. Its a matter of being put in the shoes who have ended up in prison.

[@rogertaylor9900]

It happens to men aswell

[@michael-k.]

Roger Taylor Yes men and women are sexually, physically, and mentally abused not just women

[@laylac]

Went from being woke to dumb smh

[@mirandablue8855]

All of those women looked so happy getting their hair and makeup done. But on another note, the American prison system needs to change for both women and men. Thank you Refinery29 for putting out amazing content!

[@khadijaimran4758]

When you have men controlling most of everything around you it’s normal and so much easier for them to take advantage of and to not care for women or in many cases ANYONE ‘INFERIOR’.

[@astralflux4802]

Ugh this made me cry- I was arrested on false made up drug charges and I almost died as a result of it They would give me my seizure medications and basic things like food even!!! They had to ship me out to a hospital due to the amount of seizures I was having at one point- At the end when she said “I needed a rehab not a prison where they degraded me.” Exactly!

[@XxXShevampXxX]

Before I finally got myself into a treatment program and really took it seriously, I'm ashamed to admit that I spent 5 days in jail on a misdemeanor shoplifting charge....5 days isn't much but it really opened my eyes to some of the horrible things going on in there. It was traumatic but in a way, I'm glad it happened because it was one of the things that made me realize I didn't want that life and propelled me into my recovery. There was 2 different male guards that were trading sexual favors for basic necessities and contraband as well. An older woman who was an alcoholic collapsed quit breathing....the guards called the ambulance but just stood there and did not bother starting cpr. Luckily for that poor woman, one of the kitchen workers was just getting back from her shift as it was happening and she had some medical training so she proceeded to do cpr on this woman and gave her mouth to mouth until the ambulance finally showed up. She made it, thank god, but those guards never lifted a finger to help save her. They just stood there and were even conversating like a women dying in front of you is just an every day occurrence. It was a seizure of course and they knew she was coming in an alcoholic and should've been in the medical dorm but they didn't. It's a coed facility and the men have it pretty bad too. They gave an elderly man a top bunk which is against protocol since he have a seizure disorder and had trouble with mobility. He ended up falling off it and broke his hip but it took the inmates over an hour to get the guards attention and when they did, they came in and glanced at him still laying on the floor and decided he was faking it and walked right back out. That old man laid there for 8 fucking hours....it took the inmates getting so upset that they were about to riot to get them to do anything. His fellow inmates had been begging for them to help him for 8 hours yall. When they finally decided to do their job, they discovered his hip was severely broken and would require immediate surgery. 8 fucking hours laying on a hard concrete floor with a broken hip....it makes me wanna cry every time I think about it. His mobility was already not great but after that, he had to have a wheelchair. They treat those people like animals. Or like they're disposable. The last night I was there, a mentally ill women in my dorm started having a very loud psychotic fit and instead of taking her out of the dorm and attending to her, they told her that she better cut it out before one of the other inmates whooped her ass for waking everyone up. They told her they'd do nothing to stop it either. It was an extremely disturbing experience to say the least.

[@huerag4849]

That has me really worried. Due to a motorcycle accident my pops is epileptic he is 52 and will be home in 14yrs. I hope he and others like the man yoy mentioned will be ok

[@duchessedeberne3909]

Dear lord, that makes me really sad to hear :(

[@Deee119]

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you sought out someone to talk to about witnessing these events because you shouldn’t have to keep these to yourself. I hope you are feeling okay- it takes a lot of courage to talk about a low point, and about traumatic memories.

[@holocene2164]

These fucking guards should be the ones in prison! Fuck me, they are scum. Thanks for sharing and I sure hope you're doing good.

[@4evaluckyh]

every woman deserve to see herself beautiful

[@comecorrect1]

Right!!!!

[@momof2plusotaku657]

TorqnGears I know right.... I can't help but feel like if your a murderer or child abuser then no idc if you feel pretty.... But... Not everyone is in for something on that level :/

[@candicegerman2748]

an icon , depending why a person is in prison.

[@user-vd2jk7dl3p]

Not if you've murdered people.

[@PeytonSmith]

Depending on the crime they committed, sure

[@intothesurf]

I always enjoy Refinery's content

[@ShinodoX]

Shady should be in series form, so I can track which episodes I havent watched :P

[@refinery29]

+elorip You can find the playlist here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ29YoaNgaeZhqc

[@molly1755]

My mam works for a care company for elderly and disabled. Male workers are not allowed to care for females for obvious reasons of seeing them naked, helping them physically and changing their clothes. I know it's difficult because they're obviously not the same jobs plus there probably aren't many women in these jobs. But can they not have only women guards watch over showers and stuff like that?

[@strawberrycolafizz840]

The makeup program makes me happy, the abuse doesn’t

[@outofomelas]

thank you so much for all these videos... you're really showing what life is like for people, you're giving them a voice and I'm so grateful

[@amyjacquelineg.9541]

When you look good you feel good. Human kindness and touch is a great self-esteem booster.

[@completeleigh]

I'm concerned for the interviewees' safety after this video.

[@spunkylilmonkey101]

Hannah now that I'm home they can't do anything to me. I'm a lucky one.

[@spunkylilmonkey101]

💙💙 thank you!

[@elisabetfinlayson8539]

Hannah I

[@RosieBrownie]

spunkylilmonkey101 Just God bless you 😊💕💗 You deserve to feel safe and happy❤ You're so strong 😙

[@spunkylilmonkey101]

Rosie Brown 💙 thank you! I'm not as strong as I seem but I'm strong for those that I have to be for and those I left behind those walls 😊 I was taught to always be a voice for those who can't or are afraid to speak for themselves so that's what I'm trying to do 💙💙 thank you for your support! It truely means more than you know.

[@piayugamer7105]

Female prisoners should have female prison guards period.

[@sydneyleach9378]

Non violent crimes should NOT be punished with prison... these women are so strong. Wow

[@juuu2372]

5:49 such a mood washing my hair is the only productive thing I am doing during quarantine :')

[@monakieu]

This was so interesting. And really upsetting. Women get sent to prison to be rehabilitated (and punished ofc) but because of this hazardous environment change is almost impossible. What a shitshow the American justice system is..

[@refinery29]

+actuallyridiculous Thanks for watching!

[@ChronosKat]

Not just American :/

[@Zwegtube]

Its even worse for men.

[@monakieu]

tschoppomotäng as this video is about women, it’s not necessary to note that men have it even worse. Not that it’s not important, but for once it’s about women instead of men.

[@lightyagamididnothingwrong5419]

“There’s no quick fix” Here’s an idea, get rid of male guards in female prisons.

[@lixxlizards8799]

Light Yagami Did Nothing Wrong they need to make it more desirable for women I did this job for a while on both sides of the spectrum of male and female. Female guards are highly saught after to a point they'd just hire crappy women to be guards. To meet quotas but in order to get many good female guards to locate to a women's prison would have to alot of benefits to move the distance. And it's not a highly desirable job for alot of women. I don't think that having males working in a women's prison is wrong but I do think they need to change it. But Oregon where I worked was really good about pushing stuff under the rug on both sex prisons of guards having relationships with inmates and bringing in contraband to them. I think there should be much more harsh punishments for the guards I think they should be publicly exploited maybe they would think twice

[@laraweston8241]

Light Yagami Did Nothing Wrong What you said is true but I’m only replying because of your amazing username XD

[@malikmulkan6733]

I agree

[@lightyagamididnothingwrong5419]

lixx loveslixards Thank you

[@dhaliasghost2257]

have you seen female inmate they are huge and strong and they work in packs

[@shreklovernettie]

The lady at 11:24 actually wanted to meet up with that office...disgusting. If you slow down the speed and look she responded to his dirty message with "K I go home once a month...I'll hit you up. Gotta go have a good day." This is horrible

[@skeletrix_]

Sometimes you can avoid harassment by saying yes and not following through instead of saying no.

[@glaciergang]

Omg I saw that too. I hope it’s just empty to make him shut up

[@faithplaisance1270]

Pads and tampons should be free. If everyone had periods they would definetly be free. So should water and certain medicine.