What Bike Next? (Ep12) - John's got an £18k budget!

[@bennettsbikesocial]

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[@chaser_the_dream6798]

Was here today. A guy was really interested in buying a bike I overheard him asking a staff member if he could test ride the bike the reply was we don’t do test rides….shameful making these videos when normal customers can’t get a test ride

[@chrisc9376]

I won't buy a bike without a test ride.

[@chaser_the_dream6798]

@@chrisc9376 it’s terrible. These videos are making out that superbike factory offer out this service and in the end this guy didn’t even buy a bike

[@Beemer_Steve]

Tbf I wouldn’t but a cup of tea from this place, the horror stories you hear on social media and the state of some the rusty wreck’s in the show room

[@TheInterflex]

@@Beemer_Steve I've been to the place at Donnington and Macclesfield. Plenty of bikes but very poorly presented, some dirty and the list time I went there were signs everywhere telling you not to even sit on them.

[@richardgiles2484]

Why would anyone buy a bike or a car without having a test ride 😂😂😂

[@teneretraveller8980]

I admire his good lady for being brave enough to pillion regularly on those! Top chap. Top entertainment, gentlemen. Ride safe 👍

[@LK-sn4eg]

He was an absolute tyre kicker

[@NeonLuvBar]

"Put an H2 engine in a Versys frame" is the best line in the vid 😊

[@MikeTheBike58]

I thought SBF didn't do test rides.

[@thisisabsolutelystup]

I dont mind if they dont buy one of the selected bikes. Buying a bike is very personal, I dont expect them to get it right very often at all. I like the side by side comparisons and the discussion of what's different between bikes. I actually think bikers are by natute a little defiant, and are less inclined to pick a bike others have put forward.

[@simondavies9315]

Best episode yet. Kept me guessing until the end. Imagine having that sort of budget.

[@newberry654987]

Just a heads up guys the m1000xr does come with pillion pegs. My old man brought one today. Love the series 👍🏻

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Brill, good to hear that. John’s now bought an M XR.

[@TheCvac]

Pointless on that bike because you have to take a backpack for your luggage,on a sports tourer 😂

[@FFTVCrypto]

@@TheCvac You can get soft luggage for it

[@dstev55]

If the S1000XR doesn't feature in this then I don't think it ever will!

[@JayGee6996]

it's more about what stock the shop they use have in stock

[@dstev55]

​@@JayGee6996must be as the S1000XR ticks every single box of his. Every one. Never been to their Donny branch and not seen at least one XR in, although some are cheaper Gen 1s and I think a Gen 2 would be perfect for him. John if you're reading this get yourself to BMW and test ride the new XR.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

@@dstev55 watch until the very end and you’ll find out what he buys.

[@dstev55]

@@bennettsbikesocial yes I saw. He must have found an extra few £k budget! Personally I think he'd have found the new 170hp S more than enough plus it has better pillion and touring provision.

[@starseeddeluxe]

I am continuously flabbergasted by the mindset of the English riders vs. Americans. Here in the states no adult male would even take a test ride on any of the bikes I've seen featured in this TV series. People here want chrome cruisers, and they are embarrassed to even consider being seen on anything other than a Harley or similar cruiser. The average person here cares more about the status than the performance and nothing can change their mind.

[@davidmuir6818]

This is my favorite show ever!! I really look forward to every episode. Keep up the good work 😎👍

[@beborodner930]

Great series fellas!!! Love that Ducati!! Thought that wouldve done it when you rolled it out. My 1st thoughts ..I was thinking KTM superduke, or perhaps that new Suzuki GSX 1000GT

[@kugangles9860]

Regular XR all the way. The extra power the M provides is only accessible above 10k (where the shift cam kicks in) which on the street is unuseable unless you have a death wish or want your license shredded.

[@yog-lv5ey]

one of the best put together videos of yet

[@FreddyKings87]

I love this show and this was the best episode.. keep it up guys 👍

[@God-Knows-I-Dont]

Great stuff, cant wait for Ep2000, Keep em coming.

[@FFTVCrypto]

This is strangely close to my own current bike search. I have a 2018 H2SX at the moment, which I really love, but at 6ft3 its a bit wristy. Last week I test rode the Multistrada V4S, but top of my want list (dependent on a test ride) is the M1000XR.

[@MrZahir.]

Love this series of videos - keep them coming !

[@crimpyjugs5680]

I’m on the same page as Michael Mann, I have a 1200 Multi Enduro and a CBF1000, the ideal duo for me would be the CB1000R, but I can’t fit 3 bikes in the garage, and couldn’t sell the CBF as we’ve done too much together to do that!

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Top man. Yes, I thought it was a brilliant plan! The CB is a fab machine, I had one when the current first came out. Loved it, tracked it. Good luck with your quandary. Cheers, Michael

[@MaverickAus]

H2 SX SE sounds perfect

[@Geshmaal]

3xHonda VFR1200. Maybe one F, one X and one DCT?

[@petervisi5369]

I expected Michael to come up with a BMW S1000XR.

[@bwlyon]

I would have liked his opinion of the K1600, especially for two up riding.

[@johnsteel4719]

I can’t believe you guys didn’t offer him the XR or V4S to test ride. His description of his ideal bike was screaming XR. Im assuming he bought the m sport XR rather than the MXR. Great series chaps, really enjoying it and hopefully you’ll get a result one day although I wonder after this episode 🤔

[@dstev55]

Yeah I agree John, the standard XR would be more suitable for his needs rather than the MXR going on what he said. And if 170hp ain't fast enough for you then you're always going to be wanting more power.

[@kugangles9860]

Yeah I immediately thought of a XR or multistrada V4s. Bringing a passenger on a M1000XR isn't gonna be the most comfortable thing in the world.

[@sunrisejak2709]

BMW K16GT ticks all the boxes and more. It's the obvious best choice and if pillion 90% of the time his wife will love it. Happy wife happy life. 😊

[@Achilles22]

@@sunrisejak2709 way too heavy! 🦍🦍

[@sunrisejak2709]

@@Achilles22 Yes, outright weight when standing still is indeed a bit much. But once underway the weight seems to disappear. 😎 The power, performance, and handling are impressive and the overall behavior amazing. It's only when you get on and off and walk it around the garage the weight reveals itself. But it's got reverse! 😁

[@evanjohn503]

why didn't you choose the K1600 - I thought they were too big, I'm 5ft 9in , and didn't want to go back to sportsbikes, tried a second hand one because it was there and bought it - its phenomenal

[@ScottAndrews]

Love this series. Keep it coming

[@royevans4581]

Great series. I think he should buy a 'Busa! 🤣🤣 But then I would say that! Great to see you at Cadwell Simon, and please thank your son for me for the excellent photos of us with my bike. Love 'em! I've known you since I was a spotty yoof and you are deffo. a big influence on my biking life. I loved reading Performance Bikes, MCN and Fast Bikes. Performance Bikes was my favourite mag and I had a mountain of them! btw, rode my 'busa back up the coast road to Durham and it was absolutely brilliant. The Gen 3 I tried at Cadwell was good, but mine is spot on. Remap I was talking about? Nah. 🤘🤘

[@gabrielpsaila7102]

I was thinking Busa too! That’s what I’ve got now good for the Mrs on the back and still plenty of sporty fun.

[@geecee4746]

Really love this series, very enjoyable 👍👍

[@andygreyriderGRN]

Superbike Factory reminds me very much of Carnell's and look how they turned out. They wouldn't let me test ride any of their bikes either so, I built my own and it is more reliable than anything I have seen in any dealership for 25 years.

[@theprodigalstranger5259]

Well, sport naked maybe the Yamaha MT-10, Honda CB1000, or the Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS. Sport tourer Yamaha FJR1300ES, Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+, or the Kawi Ninja ZX-14R. Any of those should meet his requirements and budget, lets see what the BBS boyz choose. I thought about the KTMs and BMWs as well but thought the KTM was a bit small especially for the pillion and the BMW was too big for Johns sporty wants. Don't think I've ever seen someone so disappointed while looking at a Ducati. I should think John would be most interested in the H2. Im going to be visiting the U.K. in the not too distant future any chance of me getting to do one of these videos?

[@philipgreen4917]

“My wife’s pillion 90% of the time” and yet she didn’t go on the test rides..! 😂😂 Omg a Versys with a supercharged engine, absolute genius..🤩 Tbf I reckon my old Versys 1000 is quick enough for most mortals.

[@aps-pictures9335]

Ever notice how new the staff members are - almost like there is high turnover 😂

[@ozzyg82]

yeah and they’re always like: “I love my job…” and I’m like - then why don’t we see the same staff more than once? Lol

[@bennettsbikesocial]

@@ozzyg82 SBK Factory are keen to offer everyone a chance at being the Mystery Bike Selector.

[@cypresscycle8326]

If you listen to the follow-up, the contestants often do come back to buy a bike, when it feels like it's on their own terms

[@aps-pictures9335]

@@cypresscycle8326 they very rarely do, they often never say the dealership name - just what they bought…

[@LaurenRides]

@@ozzyg82 I'll make sure I come back for another episode 🤣👋

[@wunsen95]

is the test route available anywhere?

[@allensteiner1]

Did someone mention Suzuki GSX S1000GT ? Sounds like a bike for John

[@davereinhart9933]

This show is one of my favorite on the internet. I suspect it is fun to produce as well!

[@KTM-1090]

If you have £18k don’t buy from these guys. In fact, whatever your budget just go somewhere else.

[@DavidcCbrider]

Great stream guys . MT10 wow great bike . Ducati my fave . I wouldnt know where to turn. Both great bikes . The Kawasaki is the bike that i would have gone for . 👍👍👍

[@justinrice8509]

I ready like this show! I always think what bike would I pick! That's the fun of the show. I was thinking, in the shopping part of the video. BMW XR

[@terrydaniel8698]

Love it brilliant show

[@morri03]

I always pause and make suggestions before watching what the guys choose. Aprilia Tuono Factory bit probably not the best choice for a pillion BMW S1000R Suzuki GSX1000GT Kawasaki H2SX

[@sanatandharma4435]

I understand exactly how John feels! I dearly love the old RE Himalayan, but think its a little cramped for me. I love the moto guzzi vt85 its a little too expensive for me, then I sit on a ktm and think it's too tall! I do like the cf moto 450 mt and then I look at a gs1200.....It's bonkers and some dealers here in Spain don't do test rides as they do not have the required Insurance!!! I have however, found a triumph dealer in Gijon and they DO allow test rides, so today I am testing the 400x scrambler.....I wish Simon and Michael could come to Spain!!

[@richiejeal]

You missed the obvious bike. KTM Superduke GT. Big enough for 2, big enough for a 6 footer, has 175bhp, loads of gadgets, not an adventure bike and available with optional luggage. How did you miss it???????

[@mrsuperduke6684]

Big miss, the gt ticks all the boxes and pick one up new for 15k

[@dynamotightstar3472]

Very typical of this show. Pick an MT10 instead of a superduke GT. Makes no sense.

[@MV-XD2]

Maybe because he’s seen one in daylight and realised how hideously ugly it is?

[@mrsuperduke6684]

@@MV-XD2 👍🤣.... blew his 18k buget on a m1000xr.

[@richiejeal]

@dynamotightstar3472 I ride a 2022 Versys 1000 but I really want/need a SDuke GT. I think it's ugly too, but the rest of the bike is 👌 that won't put me off.

[@CCitis]

I was screaming S1000XR...

[@jecsah]

Or the KTM 1290gt next to the employee on the piece to cam

[@macgarester]

Did I miss something? He says he has not ridden a Cross Plane Crank engine, but he was riding a Tracer with a CP3.

[@Cowelly84]

They're a triple

[@martinbrown4214]

I thought the same , he had a crossplane.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

He’d not ridden the inline four version though. Seemed like he liked it!

[@paulhope3401]

A crossplane crank traditionally refers to i4 where the crank planes of 2 of the opposing pistons cross each other at 90 deg as opposed to a conventional and more common, flatplane crank which are all on the same plane. If you really think about it, All i3's crank planes cross, so its totally irrelevant and nothing unique for i3's. Yamaha just stole the moniker as a marketing term... they even use it for their twin... the CP2... and tbh it wouldn't surprise me if they brought out a modern single cylinder and called it the CP1. 😂

[@macgarester]

@@paulhope3401 So the Tracer 9 CP3 isn't a crossplane engine?

[@cecilwilson5442]

Good choice for the big fella, definitely thought that was a bike one off you would be picking,a BMW,,XR ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland

[@jongreen9113]

Lots of Multistrada 950s buzz. Through the levers or the seat nose or the footrests. Other Ducati twins don't do this so it must be the frame

[@somatyk]

Woohoo! Weekly episodes. Really enjoyed this one. Guys, what is the tune that fires up just as the Multistrada specs come on screen? It's fuc£#ing awesome.

[@chalkphil]

What happened to the KTM Superduke GT!? It was the first one you looked at, but neither chose - would've certainly been a better choice than the H2 (tho I bet that engine is mental). Good show though, and you certainly opened his eyes to the Sports/Adventure type bikes.

[@coolhandchunk]

What about that VFR1200 sitting in the back ground???

[@ElDuderinoAus]

The BMW S1000 XR was an obvious bike for his needs.

[@rarekid740]

No S1000XR? No GSX-S1000 GT or GX? No Superduke GT? I thought Simon was gonna pick a Sportstourer for sure, but must be limited by what the shop had in stock, that's a shame

[@mark3863]

I'm surprised there was no mention of the KTM Super Duke GT.

[@512460]

5:01😴

[@GixxerZilla]

Superbike Factory dont do testrides and have many trashed bikes. Enjoy!

[@SuperBikeFactoryUK]

Thanks for your comment, we do not sell trashed bikes, all bikes go through a 120 point check prior to sale. Unfortunatley, due to the amount of motorbikes we have, offering test rides is as you can imagine, logistically challenging - we do however, offer a 14 day money back gaurantee, this allows the rider to thoroughly evaluate the motorbike in your own time and return it within 14 days of purchase if it doesn’t meet expectations. The customer will get a full refund so long as it's in the same condition. Thanks, Team SBF

[@NUFC2412]

​@SuperbikefactoryUk not offering test rides is ridiculous

[@127069]

The poor condition of the bikes you deliver has become part of folklore. Get real mechanics and check stuff properly

[@davecrewe9074]

Why use a company that dont let you test ride as a customer !

[@niged]

A Suzuki GSXS1000GT new could be a good choice?

[@BuffaloweRider]

Legit question, is bennetts a purely UK thing?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Hi, yes we offer motorcycle insurance UK-wide and while there's no geographical restriction on BikeSocial membership, the majority of the offers, deals, discounts, etc. are all UK related.

[@bobojo8591]

Great series personal favourite. However l am somewhat left aghast at your choices. l do not know the full details and l suspect that availability was the issue regarding the bikes you chose or as was said going through all those bikes was a challenge. I thought you were too conservative. l mean he was willing to spend it all but you were coming in well below. One of the bikes did surprise me though as it was a 20l9 model cannot remember what the others were or were not mentioned. Had it been me l would be going straight for a current year model or at the very worst maybe 2 years out max. Personally, l would have been looking at one of those amazing Sizuki things sorry their names get harder and harder to pronounce but the current 100)GSX and the GT l think from what l have read and seen they would fit the bill perfectly and might be even had brand new so to say l was disappointed is an understatement. I would have also looked at the Ninja 1000SX but you did bring out the other one so that was covered. Talking supercharged l would have gone for the Z one l think it was the H2 the naked version which seemed to have been withdrawn at least from where l search for bikes. I was happy with the Multistrada but disappointed it was not a V4 surely at that sort of money a V4 could have been found. Lastly one bike which l would have considered would have been the 1000XR BMW that is one crazy machine and from what l have been seeing the new M variant is on another level of craziness and fun. So for once l was underwhelmed by your choices but l still enjoyed the show. l liked the move to offer him a buy one get 2. That was a nice touch. Personally l would have loved the Tracer 9GT + but for whatever reason Yamaha does not offer a MT 10/R1 derived offering the 9 is excellent l did ride the old 900 and l found it very powerful even with a friend on board. However, it is based on the MT9/XSR platform which tops out at between 114 H[p to 118HP which is a chink in its armour as most of its main competition and its Japanese brethren have bikes which do 150 or more. Hopefully Yamaha fixes this glaring omission but still l would buy the current one funds permitting, l like the technology, the functionality, the gadgets and the great combination of price and reliability which are of paramount importance to me and l do love the craziness of Yamaha.

[@__Max-oe6zm]

I really like this show as a concept, but it's far too limited given the apparent restraints of the limited stock at just one dealer? Would be great if you guys could expand the show to include additional dealers and therefore options for picking the right bike. My initial thoughts on picks were MT10, Hayabusa, Tuono. In retrospect the BMW he went with did fit the criteria quite well too.

[@EVILSPAWN1003]

YES! S1000XR every time!

[@matthewcoleman8267]

This is going the way of Escape to the Country. People turn up with a massive budget, look around some nice things and never buy anything.

[@Fractal379]

😂😂😂

[@michaeltelemachus5112]

Great stuff once again from the Lads. None of this particular selection would suit my needs however.

[@Adam-ez4bd]

Hey BSB big fan here need your help, I really want to get a bike from Superbike Factory, as they have huge selection at great prices, but when I phoned to book a test drive they said they don't do test drives, how did you manage to arrange a test ride?

[@stevestebbings]

Great show. Super duke GT you nearlly chose would've been perfect .

[@diegocella6791]

My money is on the S 1000 XR or the GSX 1000 SX (the one with long suspension). Strange i haven't put a GS in this one!

[@146matt]

Super duke GT, Pikes Peak, XR?

[@joek81981]

For the home game, I found a BMW R1250 RS, 110 miles, so effectively zero miles. $2,655 under budget. Lots of H2 SX SE's here as well.

[@Bikerbug2020]

My thought was a BMW S1000XR, so thinking that is what he ended up with.

[@kurtinfl]

Once again Hargreaves looks like he arrived on location for the shoot and went straight to the apparel department at Superbike Factory and picked a jacket off a hanger to wear for the video. At least this time it's not zipped up all the way.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

He’s a trend setter not a trend follower 😉

[@kurtinfl]

@@bennettsbikesocial he looks like a professional athlete clumsily showing off the brand logo on his sportswear as required by his advertising endorsement or a social media influencer trying to get free merch from manufacturers.

[@kpowers9017]

Agreed. Looks incredibly strange

[@bennettsbikesocial]

@@kurtinfl leave him alone, he’s just a cold blooded dude ready for the ride!

[@neilrichardson3986]

Has to be v4 Multi for me

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

Yep it's the only one that ticks all his boxes. I have had the H2SX it was too much for the roads and the 900 GT Tracer boring after the Kawasaki and now have the Multi V4S the best of both.

[@markharrison2484]

Never heard an MT-10 described as beautiful.

[@Achilles22]

100% agree Ross! They will not be getting my business.

[@christophereaves7108]

If his wife doesn't like the tracer 9gt then she won't like the mt10. Also he said he had never ridden a cp before but the tracer 9gt is a cross plane crank. You don't need more than what a tracer9gt has to offer on the road pbvs wants to lose his licence For me and what he wants maybe a ktm superadventure.. the 1000xr needs alot of revving I didn't like it personally Constructive criticism guys nut getting samey samey as you said maybe get some cruisers on or even 125s Great video as always

[@nassosa]

What?? Pressing play now!

[@nickrider5220]

M1000XR a couple of bikes in one, plus you'll never get bored of the performance !!

[@ianwilliamson46]

18k but couldn’t afford a pair of trousers with armour.

[@Fractal379]

First thought after hearing his needs & correctly guessing his height = BMW. Higher rider seat & wife pillion on every free ride = BMW. Wants all the tech, smooth ride with low vibes & long mile comfort = BMW.

[@woutermemelink4507]

Most of the time he is riding with his pillion. Strange that he does not do the testride with her.

[@dstev55]

That's a really good point. Would have added an interesting element to the episode if the test rides were 2 up and there were the thoughts of the pillion

[@seangannon193]

What about a VFR1200F

[@mjdc4056]

Tuono 1100RR?

[@FREE_PUREBLOOD333]

Yamaha FJR 1300..perfect choice.

[@Uriel-Septim.]

was about to post the same.

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

He wanted something a bit sporty.

[@Uriel-Septim.]

zzr1400

[@bosco_bosco]

I love this series even though i cant afford a bike

[@Morris12211]

Must lose sales through no test rides 😮

[@richardwilson2093]

Should maybe have tried a BM 1000xr.

[@VinCent-xy5lg]

If he’s got 18K he doesn’t need you guys

[@craigjohnson6597]

First thing I thought!

[@twizzian]

I would always research new bike possibles and choose my own purchase rather than the shop doing that, I’d go to two maybe three dealers for the best deal.

[@ArmadilloGodzilla]

Why not tell us the dimensions of the buyer? Would help us understand his verdicts.

[@ferdzz8141]

I was literally thinking S1000XR the entire time, end then he said it! 😂

[@gingerelvis]

Different worlds. £18k is 3-4 older bikes! You could pick one for each style of riding. If i came on you would have to ditch Superbike Factory and scouer marketplace cap in hand 🤣

[@Oliverlikesbikes]

Totally agree def 3 second hand if youve got space - if you buy new bmw you have to get rid before warrenty runs out! For its one one the main reasons i love bikes being able to change styles of bikes.

[@PhilWare1]

Absolutely. I would always go for quantity. At least 3 bikes for that budget 😂

[@scottsimmons6928]

Like the way he says the wife's pillion 90% of the time after you've chosen the bikes😂

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Took me by surprise too! Cheers, Michael

[@davosat]

He should try Tuono V4 RR

[@markstacey5867]

For his requirements, i might have looked for a Tuono or Ducati streetfighter

[@ProphetAndLoss]

Why in bed with SF? They have an awful reputation.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

We're not in bed with SBF but to make this feature work we need a dealer who has a huge stock of all kinds of bikes at all kinds of prices . Otherwise we end up choosing bikes for our BikeSocial member that happen to be in stock at a smaller dealer rather than the ones we actually think they might like. We also need a dealer who has premises big enough for us to disrupt their business for a day while we film and are willing to accommodate the amount of chaos we bring. Plus, SBF's bikes, which largely come via 'we buy any bike' type websites are very representative of what a typical used example of that model might be whether buying from a dealer or private sale and we think that makes the feature more 'real'.

[@milanzoric3181]

Bmw s1000xr?

[@joselalfaro]

Yamaha FJR1300 😎👍🏼🤟🏼

[@chris25989]

Got that all wrong. Should of given him Multi V4S. S1000XR as soon as he described what he wanted. And then a final choice could of been an MT10 Touring or 1290GT

[@orestnakonechny6590]

I can’t believe they didn’t think about S1000XR! This was so obvious! When someone looks for sport touring with comfortable position but still sporty, first comes to my mind is S1000XR and Multistrada. Shame on you guys-professionals 😂

[@hamburger4622]

Sorry for being an old bore, but as you age, you become a lot less flexible, don’t want to be, it just happens!!, so from an ex R1 owner from 24 years ago, I tried a M1000XR for size and it was instantly uncomfortable/unusable, I climbed off it immediately. What is there, that’s armchair comfy and goes like stink?!

[@medler2110]

Not sure about going like stink, but reached the same dilemma a few years ago, after nearly 40 years of riding I could only tolerate anything sporty for an hour max, for me it was a choice of not riding or finding something comfortable. I went for a BMW R1200RT, I can actually ride it for hours, obviously it can tour A roads and Motorways with ease, but most surprising was how well it went on twisty B Roads, it does get asthmatic at top end, but apparently the 1250 is far more revvy.

[@hamburger4622]

@@medler2110 yes, they’re an amazing machine, my mate has just bought a 1250 and raves about it, fast enough, very stable and easy handling, must be why the Police love them so much

[@randersson3672]

Man får gratulera, gött att sitta mer upprätt när man blir lite....till åren 😅

[@seaninness334]

Michael brings up a great issue. At what price point do you just have to split it into two different bikes? At a certain point, no matter how much money you throw at it, one bike can't do everything well enough. Then John buys a bike well above the money he was talking about here? Its MSRP in the US at $25k for the base model to $30k+. I doubt the wife will spend much time on it. John, your "youth" is on fumes, middle age is moments away.

[@psackett62]

Come on guys, get a cruiser lover on!