Here in Germany I use mostly ATE like you mentioned and sometimes Zimmermann, Brembo and maybe Textar. Akebono is not available from my suppliers, so cant tell. For BMW M models only the genuine pads and rotors, you feel the difference, the multi-part rotors are made by BMW itself in their own facility for a reason.
@dannyd.87533 ай бұрын
Yes ATE is called like A.T.E. here in germany. It stands for Alfred Teves...the founder of the company. It's a big player for brakes here.
@chrisbradley32243 ай бұрын
ATE is a big brake firm owned by Continental now yep
@Trump-The-GREATEST3 ай бұрын
They make amazing brake systems and brake lunes and Mazda uses ATE brake Calipers in their cars!
@nick2bfit2 ай бұрын
Parts stores are plagued with junk parts these days... Glad you produced this video on some real winners!
@TerdisLesezchuan2 ай бұрын
Raybestos Police rotors on the front of my 15 explorer XLT with Wagner coated on the rears and Akebono pads all around. Extremely smooth braking and never a single sound has been heard so far
@lyfandeth3 ай бұрын
20-30 years ago, Ford put out a service bulletin to their dealers. Genuine OEM rotors were warping at a high rate due to authorized, certified, highly trained Forx mechanics over-torquing the lug nuts. Using a torque wrench and proper installation of the wheels were all that was needed.
@calvinwalker46543 ай бұрын
I used to have a smart car and that can be a problem with them as well. It has three lug nuts, and if you over tighten them, it will cause the rotors to warp
@MrTexasSteve2 ай бұрын
I had that happen on my old 2001 F250 diesel. Replaced rotors 2x until I found this out and started re-torquing the lug nuts after anything related to removing the wheels (new tires/rotations). Never had an issue after that.
@KT_One2 ай бұрын
Interesting as my Ford (Lincoln) calls for 160+ lb-ft of torque. Way more than any other car I have owned.
@AquaticLogic2 ай бұрын
I have heard this as well, but this contradicts what he says in the video. Improperly torqued lugs would physically warp the rotor not cause uneven pad material like he says. I agree with you.
@mandytuning3 ай бұрын
I seen that more often now with ceramic pads. I never had problem with metallic pads, now every 6 months have to resurface rotors no matter how i bead the pads. definitely gonna try akebono
@hillmt3 ай бұрын
I have had good luck with Advics rotors and Akebono pads on my Toyota's. Both are OEM suppliers (Advics is partially owned by Toyota) and made in USA!
@wolleyreikivalley2 ай бұрын
i also use advics / aisin
@andrewkenny7428 күн бұрын
I put brembo premium coated rotors and akebono pads on the rear of my crv. Best set up I've had so far, low dust, low wear, great performance. Will put the same parts on the front when time comes.
@ThilgesFamilyAuto3 ай бұрын
My shop has none of these available unless I want to ship them in from Worldpac. Raysbestos Element3 coated rotors are what I have used and never had an issue. Throw one on the lathe everyone once and awhile new and never any runout. Typically they come in around .030-.040 thicker than the Napa or O'Rielly cheap rotors which I think helps with warping and also gives me a shot at machining at least if it's needed.
@mph58963 ай бұрын
Raybestos element 3 or Wagner e coated is what I use. Usually a great price
@PeterM-PeterM3 ай бұрын
Same
@Mad_Maximus73 ай бұрын
Recently replaced rotors & pads on my 2017 Sub. Impreza using slotted Powerstop rotors. It’s been about 3 months and they’re working like a charm still. I think the brand is definitely impactful, but more than anything it comes down to following proper installation & break-in procedures. It’s the people cutting corners with 30 min brake jobs that get into trouble… don’t bleed the dirty brake fluid, don’t properly break the pad material in… neglect to grease the pins or apply anti-seize in the correct areas (if at all). In the final counting, you save much more time doing it right the first time. Sure, it’s an investment, but like most aspects of life, an ounce of prevention equates to a pound of cure. Appreciate the guidance! I will definitely be strongly considering Akebono (sp?) for my next pad replacements!
@markleggett39444 күн бұрын
That is why you and I prefer to do our own brakes. Few people will do the extra steps that we know are important.
@Backblast7215 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing the information. Knowing is half the battle..!
@danielmartz31453 ай бұрын
I have a 2000 4Runner that I put Brembo rotors and OEM pads on. I’ve got well over 100k on this combo. I’m super happy with this combo.
@chuckspeer2163Ай бұрын
Great video , I have never had a problem with any of the brands you mentioned , people bite the bullet and pay for quality , shops have payment plans , finance companies, banks , and your own savings each month , do you want that item , or do you need that item
@DavidSmith-cr4pw25 күн бұрын
Late to the party but the black rotors are Carquest Frontline / they have been very good for us in Police applications.
@tgallahar1537Ай бұрын
Thank you I was waiting for this to confirm what I already knew. Be prepared to pay. But you get what you pay for. Thanks again.
@sharpright68872 ай бұрын
This may be for the majority but I can attest to warped rotors not caused by pad transfer. Metal expands and contracts based on temperature and that does cause warping which is why they make two piece designs to help minimize warping. For every paper saying it doesn’t there is at least another one saying it does. I had hoped to watch a video to learn something and not hear someone start off by saying what I experienced when attempting to turn my rotors didn’t happen. When the machine is surfacing one half of the rotor on one side then the opposite half on the other those rotors are warped. I scraped those and bought a new set.
@AbouTto_2 ай бұрын
both can be true. thought the same thing.
@ryanely97322 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ve had warped rotors and watched them spin on a lathe were 100% warped not “brake pad transfer” which I don’t believe is even possible lol. How many times has a rotor measured thicker after use? Zero.
@bobtopper78673 ай бұрын
Starting using Brembo recently and I’ve been very impressed with quality.
@mcplutt3 ай бұрын
Even more impressed with the low price, but made in China.
@MegaChickenPunch2 ай бұрын
@@mcplutt99% of everything is made in china and it works
@blipco5Ай бұрын
My last rear brake job on my Accord I went with Raybestos new (not remanufactured) calipers, rotors and brake pads. They performed better than new Honda OEM. When I do my front brakes I’ll repeat the same whether I need new calipers or not. That’s how good they perform.
@snowsoloАй бұрын
Same here. I used the Raybestos pads and rotors on my daily driver 2016 Ford Fusion Titanium and so far after 6 months they've been great. I definitely will try Akebono on some of my other vehicles when it's time....23 Frontier and 24 Civic
@drewwilliams8593Ай бұрын
back in the day, I had a Mitsubishi Diamante that would warp the rotors on a trip to the mailbox. Upgraded pads, machined the rotors a few times and even replaced them with new factory rotors (under warranty). I live in AZ so yeah, it can get a bit hotter than Minnesota, but still. I ended up, out of despiration, installing a set of "Frozen Rotors" which are cryogenically treated, and some EBC pads. They were not drilled, slotted or modified in any other way. Problem solved. Even in spirited mountain driving I never had an issue again. If you have a troublesome warpage issue, I would highly recommend you try a set of Frozen Rotors. Amazing results.
@ChevySS19682 ай бұрын
Good parts are certainly important, but I believe meticulous installation is even more important. I mount each rotor and check for runout with dial caliper, clean the parts thoroughly, torque lug nuts carefully, etc, etc. Then I educate the customer about using the brakes, i.e., don't come hard off a long highway ramp doing 80mph to a stop light and hold the brakes, let the vehicle move a little every few seconds so pad material doesn't stick to hot rotor. Anyway, brakes are like everything else in life, there's more to it than you'd think.
@joecanuck37512 ай бұрын
If we eliminated traffic lights near highways we could solve warped rotors. I'll cast my vote for more traffic circles.
@amarmot36353 ай бұрын
Akebono pads and Bosch rotors have worked well for me.
@erik50242 ай бұрын
I would agree on both counts. The only time I don't use Akebono is when they don't make pads for an application. I also like the Bosch quietcast rotors when I can't find AC Delco coated rotors.
@tl46332 ай бұрын
Akebono Pads and Bosch Rotors are my go to for our 3 Hondas.
@kal-elprime567816 күн бұрын
I just installed drilled and slotted R1 Concepts Rotors on my 2016 Camaro with Akebono ACT ultra premium ceramic brake pads 🤞 this is a good combination to go with 🤞😣🤞
@edmundoporras38212 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and sincere knowledge. You do an excellent job in throughly breaking the information down. God bless your business and staff!!!!
@jack83563 ай бұрын
Ive done both aggressive break in and the softer break in the rotors and pads. I find the softer break in procedure to be better to brake performance. It does take a lot long but i like it better. I can brake down to the point of where you can feel if you've actually stopped or not. Basically i can stop pretty smooth. Without that whiplash at the end. Just have to be good with the foot work.
@groundcontrol68762 ай бұрын
Agreed about the footwork. Passengers (including friends who let me drive their cars) have consistently been impressed with the finesse. Like I’ll drive their stick shift and they’ll ask me how the hell the shifts are so smooth, even I can’t get it like that and it’s been my daily for years. I tell em it’s all in feathering that clutch and gas just right. Same with braking… when you’re getting close to stopping you gotta back off a bit and finesse it until you stop without feeling like you’re getting pushed forward. They’re always like how? This is witchcraft! It’s all in the foot work, like you said.
@calincalina262828 күн бұрын
Bremsen rotors and pads, pads come with hardware, had them on a 05 Camry Se 5M, great combination long lasting, price $ 150.00 Can, for a full set. Rotors are coated , pads are ceramic. Best of luck.
@vsetkoumiera7683Ай бұрын
Akebono have factories in Glasgow and Elizabethtown KY, I use to truck stampings out of both of them
@kostadinospehlivanis9933 ай бұрын
Surprisingly I’ve had bad luck with Textar this year. 3 come backs with textar 0 with any other car and brand we use. One of them we got everything replaced under warranty (pads and rotors) and still had the same problem till we swapped them again to aki’s
@greggo502Ай бұрын
EBC has rotors that are coated black. Thank You for the video!!
@troyrichey119 күн бұрын
Really appreciate the video. I love how you explain things. I would like to buy some pads and rotors for my 21 GMC Sierra and would like to buy Akebono but they only make pads for my truck. Do you have a recommendation for GM trucks?
@rlenoxIII2 ай бұрын
Ford had a TSB out in the early to mid 90’s about wrapped rotors. It was especially problematic on the Taurus and Probes. The cause was lateral runout (warping) caused by improper wheel nut torquing. It was obviously the cause, because you could watch the comebacks based on who did and didn’t torque their wheels All of that said, I think your videos are well done and provide great information and insight. The discussion are also informative. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make them.
@jdgimpa3 ай бұрын
With 45 years in the business I have seen many warped rotors. When you put them on the brake lathe and the cutting bits only hit on part of the rotor and on alternating sides the rotors are warped. Also if the rotors are severely warped they will warp again in short order after they are turned. In my personal experiance my wife had a 1989 Plymouth Acclaim with a 2.5 turbo in it. She only had two speeds fast and stopped. In Michigan she would warp the rotors every winter. Running through cold water and slush with a hot rotor would defiantly warp them. I was using genuine Chrysler parts because I worked at the dealer. Finally I got tired of replacing the rotors for the big bucks and bought a set of cheep rotors at AutoZone. She never warped the rotors again!!
@CrazyCat2292 ай бұрын
@@attilacsepe4946 No problem, I'll just pull my comment.
@williamallen7836Ай бұрын
Don’t worry I only speak 1 language, and I totally understand what you were saying very easily. Maybe Mr. College grad & 5 spoken languages spread himself so thinly that he is barely fluent in any of those languages. 😮
@rich1962 ай бұрын
VNE often makes the OEM Audi/VW rotors. Made in Germany. Very high quality. Great info you consistently give thanks.
@teslamr73333 ай бұрын
I had no Idea that Akebono made rotors. A few years back I emailed the company for recommendations for rotors and they didn’t have any. Maybe only professional shops can get them? At least now I know Brembo has your approval! 😊
@quig48002 ай бұрын
THANKS for the awesome videos .... I am VERY interested in your thoughts on Power Stop Evolution Drilled & Slotted Rotors It is the only rotor that stopped the actual warpage on my 2016 Acadia Denali ... Grant it I did NOT try the brands that you showed on this video. I am an old time racer and a machinist and probably beat the car up a bit but since I changed to these rotors and metallic pads, the car stops on a dime and has smooth consistant braking. Penny for your thoughts.
@celbertbrown2 ай бұрын
Awesome!! Thanks for the video and the great info you provide on quality work!! This type of content as well as how to do things the right way like the brake pad video is great content in my opinion and what I look forward to the most!! Keep it up and thanks again!
@macthemec3 ай бұрын
Solid list, i’d give a shout out to centric if you are on a budget as far as i know they are powerstop’s rotors without a coating
@moparfanboy2 ай бұрын
I’ve had really good and consistent experience with PowerStop rotors & Akebono pads combination
@Chilly-uq2zl3 ай бұрын
Woukd love to see more content like this! What company do yall run with for seals, suspension, and gaskets?
@2491kridge2 ай бұрын
The black rotors that come from autozone, they give you an insane vibration and crazy noises and feeling the first few times you hit the brakes until that black wears off. I can imagine if someone doesn’t know any better they would assume something went wrong when they first hit the brakes lol
@mblake04202 ай бұрын
I got the Grey coated ones premium from autozone and have been great for 3 years
@williamwhite97673 ай бұрын
I'm 80 yrs old, lifetime shade tree mechanic, degreed engineer, and I have replaced my brakes every time needed all my life. I used to get rotors turned or resurfaced when they were warped and I watched them being resurfaced. After watching many rotors being resurfaced I disagree that rotors don't warp due to what needed cutting. I owned a 95 Mark VIII Lincoln for 9 years (loved that car) that had undersized front rotors and ONE panic stop would warp them. Yeah, I read the white paper floating around the internet written by a race team member who claimed rotors don't warp. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want to based on my experience.
@jmm53463 ай бұрын
You’re challenging him but made an anecdotal example. Rotors don’t “warp”, I have yet to see anyone lay a “warped” rotor on a flat surface and show me the rotor not sitting evenly. As he stated it’s uneven pad transfer that builds up on cheap rotors.
@052RC3 ай бұрын
I have to agree. Where is this pad material that accumulates? I can prove a brake rotor is warped. Put it on a brake lathe and watch it spin. As you move the bit closer to the rotor, you can literally see that its warped. If I had to guess, there may be some type of miscommunication going on. One of the ways you can warp a brake rotor is by keeping pressure on the brake pedal when you come to a stop. Especially if you've been driving fast and really have them heated up. At higher temperatures, the metal gets softer, and the brake calipers are very strong. Maybe something like that is really going on, and is being mistaken for pad transfer.
@williamwhite97673 ай бұрын
@@jmm5346 Like I said in my post, I've watched many warped rotors turning on the lathe and it was obvious that they were warped. But those with no personal experience will believe what someone else writes that rotors don't warp. If it is metal transfer from the pads to the rotor, then if you use ceramic pads you will never have "warped" rotors. Right? BS
@PeterM-PeterM3 ай бұрын
It's the hat that warps. It's made from much thinner material then the bracking surface.
@ruelyyy3 ай бұрын
I COMPLETELY AGREE that the rotors almost NEVER WARP. Every mechanic that has turned rotors always argues the same point: "I can see and hear the knife on the lathe touch the spot where its "warped" " Its because it is physically thicker from the transfer of pad material. Mark the spot where the knife touches, and then notice it will not be 180 degrees on the other side where it touches. Usually its on the same place on the other side of the rotor. Also, even a super small amount of transfer will cause the pads to grab harder in that spot. hence the horrible shake with bad rotors. Good points about a "warped" rotor not wobbling on a super flat surface. .
@spiculum18363 ай бұрын
I live in the rust belt area and I started using fully coated rotors. They are the best for this Chicago winter's salty environment.
@richcombs48052 ай бұрын
Z model of power stops and stop tech cryo ....I think I had a brembo UV coating never rust.
@Corbots802 ай бұрын
Always buy zinc coated rotors
@elantra452 ай бұрын
I have geomet coated rotors. 3 winters with salt/brine and not a sign of rust at all.
@mechtechtools772 ай бұрын
I've had good luck using Wagner brake pads and rotors🙂
@gregblau8082Ай бұрын
These are the brands I use for customer cars and I can only think of 2 problems over 6 years. Working at places that "help" the customer by providing cheap parts or machining we had comebacks on a regular basis. That's true for a lot of parts though and shops aren't doing customers or themselves any favors by trying to save a buck
@AaronMal19782 ай бұрын
I used brembo UV coated rotors with akebono pads on my daughter's car. I was very happy with them. I tried the power stop kit on my car... also no issues so far.
@swampyfox86883 ай бұрын
140K!!! Way to go Royalty! Keep at it… please! 🙏
@GlennC7892 ай бұрын
What you're talking about is what I know as hot-spotting. There used to be an excellent technical article online about it, haven't been able to find it lately. It's not that it affects the thickness of the rotors, its that the burned-on deposits affect friction, resulting in the pulsing you initially feel. However the difference in friction then results in uneven heating of the rotor, and that can then lead to actual warping. So pads that don't result in hot-spotting will save your rotors, and some pads can actually remove material from previously hot-spotted rotors. In the motorcycle world Joe Minton of 1980's Motorcyclist magazine would recommend Ferodo pads on that basis. Sure enough I started using Ferodo pads and never had brake pulsations after that - and on some bikes where I bought used, if I swapped to those pads any minor pulsation would go away.
@beezaa2 ай бұрын
I run Raybestos Element 3 Rotors + Akebono ProACT pads.
@mplslawnguy33892 ай бұрын
That's the exact combination I just bought, putting them on tomorrow. I know the Akebonos are good, but have never bought those rotors. It's one of the most well-known companies, and the price was right so I went with them. Hoping they're good.
@CD-bm6rc2 ай бұрын
Raybestos Element 3 rotors & pads are my current go to.
@TheTitaniumSkull3 ай бұрын
The shop I work for (commercial leasing) replaces rotors and drums every brake job. For the past 40 years I have always replaced my own rotors every pad change because of my experiences having rotors turned after new pads and they have issues after a few hard braking events. Once a rotor goes bad it can never be saved, Its the part of the casting that can not be turned that hides the issue and turning is a temporary solution.
@groovymoon3 ай бұрын
DTV. Diametral Thickness Variation. Caused by initial runout of the rotor and long distance without brake applies. The runout causes uneven wear on the rotor. 40 years as a brake systems and components engineer with over 20 years of product validation testing. I write the procedures, run the logistics, build the cars, drive the tests, analyze the data, write the reports and interface with the customer(s).
@richcombs48052 ай бұрын
This mechanical engineer loves your input. I never pondered about that going on. Did you find long braking to also induce some variation in TIR?
@Balticblue932 ай бұрын
May I ask how "long distance without brake applies" causes runout or uneven wear on a rotor? Are you saying long distance road trips on the interstate without applying the brakes causes brake issues or am I missing something? I am just curious or looking for an explanation for my own knowledge.
@groovymoon2 ай бұрын
@Balticblue93 yes. One of the ways. Also rotors installed with too much runout. Toyota spec is 50 microns max.
@groovymoonАй бұрын
@@Balticblue93 Long distance with little to no braking is one way that DTV gets generated
@chads826723 күн бұрын
Duralast gold. No problems and I've installed 100's. Proper lug torque and bedding in new pads is key. New rotors = new pads. Great list of rotors but poor folks gotta get to work too.
@chrisrcarraher88002 ай бұрын
I've been using brembo rotors on the front of my Mustang track car and I can usually get two seasons out of them. The rear gets motorcraft and they hold up just as well.
@JimSix-jo6hf3 ай бұрын
the new Orielly select pro rotors work very well, they have the silver coating and do not rust for more than a year, and I am in Ohio, I see the first ones I did with them and 2 years later the brakes still look and perform like new
@jumpinjojo2 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 Mercedes C300 with 181,000. I’ve only had to perform one brake job. A testament to the quality of the factory Mercedes parts. I replaced the brakes at 65,000 miles with Zimmermann rotors and MB pads.
@JesseOsmerproductions2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks. What about Ferodo pads and Rotors. They seem to be up there with Zimmerman and Textar. Looking to replace pads and rotors on our 2012 Mazda 6.
@levithompson46192 ай бұрын
I agree on them being very great rotors but the only issue is usually they will be special order at least in my area and when you're doing a brake job that needs done that day or you just pulled the vehicle in and you found that it needs brakes, and the customer approves it you can't have your bay tied up waiting on brakes for days over whenever it would be. So I wish they would be more available at least in my area to not have to go with the less quality Major part supplier rotors. Other than that a great video keep up for good work!
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22593 ай бұрын
Centric makes good brake parts, too.
@christopherroundtree44552 ай бұрын
Yes, I've had very good luck with Centric rotors...20 years and 70k miles on front of my F150! Not a single issue, except edge rust.
@maxgator2 ай бұрын
The need to bed in pads and rotors depends on what you buy. I have a big brake kit stock on my infiniti. Replaced pads with akebono ACT. The instructions specifically said that no bedding was necessary. Just avoid hard stops where possible for the first 500 miles. This was on centric rotors rather than brembo. I've done many brake jobs so was skeptical. I've done them twice since purchasing the car 12 years ago. No "warping" until later in life of the pads.
@kamrankhan783 ай бұрын
I used power stop rotors and pads, on toyota sienna and so far 1.5 years, and no issues at all.
@GeneG-wk2mz3 ай бұрын
Yes sir I been waiting on this I was always told get high carbon rotors . Can you do video on car with bad rotors while driving far as them shaking when braking ?
@paulacandy2 ай бұрын
Just changed all 4 corners of my VW to Akebono and Bosch quietcast coated rotors. Bosch has a very solid coating, my Centrics and Raybestos both stated rusting too quickly. Made in China now can mean higher quality because margins are better, so you invest in product quality.
@CD-bm6rc2 ай бұрын
Warped rotors are a thing. I can promise you that. If you've ever turned a rotor and it has skipped sections of the rotor no matter how big or small, it's warped. Its even more obvious if you measure it and it's pretty consistent all around but still has skipped sections on a rough cut. I just don't understand why people are saying it isn't a thing.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22592 ай бұрын
@@CD-bm6rc Warping due to heat most certainly is a thing! Abusing rotors can actually glow orange, they're most likely warped at this point and probably ruined (I wouldn't trust them). I had some rotors on my car that were spider-web cracked due to abuse, luckily they didn't fall apart.
@jasonk59792 ай бұрын
I had a Chevy truck. With undersized rotors. They always warped. You could put a dual caliper and see it. I don't really care why. You have to replace them regardless.
@TimSkwarek2 ай бұрын
Love your videos, I have a 2020 Toyota sequoia SR5 that I use for work and carry about 1500 to 1700lbs of weight constant. I love your recommendation video on Akebono brakes pads. With that much weight is it better for me to get drilled and slotted rotors for the heat and weight?
@joelpierce39402 ай бұрын
Giro Disc, for performance cars. I replaced my truck rotors with Power S. that were crap. Bought the Police rotors and they have been great
@Corbots802 ай бұрын
Im glad we can buy Canadian made affordable rotors that are as good as any oem style replacement. Always go for the high carbon, zinc coated
@jonmcphee9662Ай бұрын
And what would the name of that brand be?
@Eddy-rq7ge2 ай бұрын
I saw one of your early videos and I cannot remember what brand of rotor and pad do you recommend for the European vehicles? I believe you said TEXSTAR not 100% and what do you recommend for the Asian vehicles rotor pad thanks for the info and a great video as usual with you..!!?????
@mrdoctoreleven97312 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations! 🎉
@mr.mr.330123 күн бұрын
I’ve had issues with factory Mazda and many have issues with the Tundra rotors and are searching for a better aftermarket solution
@TheMhannah10019 күн бұрын
Do you think this contributes to parts cannon repairs? Fully tracking down problems with all the new electronics takes a lot of time.
@Chilly-uq2zl3 ай бұрын
Lets go!!!! Ive been holding off on buying some until this video. U guys rock!
@douglasordetx98193 ай бұрын
Same, thank for the follow!!
@Mikea69722 ай бұрын
I've used DFC rotors with Akebono euro pads and I have to say, DFC is pretty damn good. Compared to the top companies. Best part is, made in the good old USA. They come geo coated as well.
@davidxu9163 ай бұрын
I like TRW, which is very similar to ATE. My BMW has ATE at the front and TRW at the back from the factory. And TRW quite easy to get in Australia. Very difficult to get Akebono in Australia
@leonardofreeman883313 күн бұрын
I run TRW as well. Cotec variant is made in EU and also Asia, they are not the same. Been running TRW Lucas from Spain for years, they stop well but dust like crazy. China variant is not the same at all despite what they tell you and they are harder to obtain. It's like people saying Brembo China is the same as Italy/EU, it's most certainly not.
@alaingillot47182 ай бұрын
The thickness variation start with an out of round issue issue when new .. So if you have 2 thousand warpage , you wont feel it .that 2 th will become 2 th thickness variation , that you will feel as a pulsation . You cannot have any thickness variation on the rotor. I used to use Balo rotors and Pagid pads on MB with no issues . Another issue is that manufacturer dont cast their rotors , they buy the raw casts . So bad raw casts , will warp when hot . Also super clean the hubs .
@2WheeledShenanigan-gs7cl2 ай бұрын
I like Brembo but as stated the availability can be hit or miss. I ended up going with Bosch pads, rotors, and shoes on my 97 Civic along with Napa drums because I already had them on hand.
@fartman1028411 күн бұрын
@2:38 the sticker on the Textar box says "Made in China" above the UPC code. Textar has been making parts in China for a number of years.
@JABECO20162 ай бұрын
thanks for all you help and knowlage ,I saw you braking pads video and now this one ,my question is your videos also apply for hd trucks ? in my case in own a diesel dually thank you
@johnnyautotech47223 ай бұрын
I've been using Power stop fully coated on most of my brake jobs with thier 17 sieries pads for everyday drivers , quiet nice feel always take a 15 mile brake in drive when done. Did texrars pads rotors on a few older inports too but always see made in China still way better then any white box junk out there
@MrOzzieoz3 ай бұрын
I use Powerstop on my cars and always got great results with my brakes. The coated ones are great and not too espensive!
@brassmule3 ай бұрын
Yup, Power Stop is my go-to. Using their carbon ceramic pads for the first time, good stuff. Fully coated is worth the beans in rust belt or not. They just look better for longer.
@christopherroundtree44552 ай бұрын
Thanks to you I've now satisfied my curiosity about Power STOP. I've been wondering if I should try them on my 97 F150 styleside. My next brake job will be full...rotors, calipers and pads. Should I try their slotted and drilled rotors (front disc's only) but should look good behind my 5 spoke billit aluminum rims?
@MrOzzieoz2 ай бұрын
@@christopherroundtree4455 I would go with the regular rotors but get the coated ones. Would look great behind the rims. Also, get the power stop ceramic pads. That combination gives me a smooth ride, no pulsation when I brake and the confidence that I will stop when I need to.
@MrTexasSteve2 ай бұрын
I also use Powerstop. OEM version 17 series pads on my Cherokee and the 23 series HD ones on my expedition. I've had good luck with them. Make sure to go through the break in to bed the pads..
@mala40762 ай бұрын
In our workshop we have had problem with Brembo disc on Audi and Volvo 320 mm discbrakes. Don´t know if we wear them in to place ,but they like to wobbel alot if you hit a puddle when the disc is hot.
@macieksiemczyk10962 ай бұрын
I’ve had once EBC rotors that were black coated.
@michaelnyj2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel via the 4runner diagnostics video! What do you think are good manufacturers for calipers on asian/jdm vehicles? I don't really know what to make off all these companies that reman old calipers....
@jamiewhite8382 ай бұрын
We used a lot of Posiquiets with Centric black label rotors & never had a problem until a couple years ago., their prices went up at the same time their quality went down, The pads have always made dirty rims but they were silent & other than having to burn the oil off the vents & clean oil off the surface they saved the customer a lot. Not anymore. Aki with the suffix for pad shims or factory gm for my customers. Textar or Zim for euro trash cars. Jag & rover only get factory. Textar may make the factory pads but world crack. & ssf don’t sell those there different.
@1fastwgn3 ай бұрын
I recently installed Akebono ProAct brake pads with OEM rotors and it said no bedding was necessary so I didn't, and have not had any issues. Been about 3K miles since I installed them
@joet48062 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! You are the Best !
@nicholasyu69102 ай бұрын
Power stop is very good never had a issue
@rickj19832 ай бұрын
What do you use to remove/clean off the oily coating that I've seen on a few rotors? I'm glad you gave feedback on the best rotors. I've used Brembo, Zimmerman the most followed by Textar based on what was available (best quality for the $) and this was on Volvos. I now own Toyota so it will be interesting to see how long pads and rotors last in comparison.
@markleggett39444 күн бұрын
Use a non chlorinated brake cleaner spray.
@robertcoffey16362 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on oem rotors ? Thank you!
@jctedsap3 ай бұрын
Many years ago I went to put on a new Raybestos brand brake drum. Decided to put it on my Ammco brake lathe and it was .040 warped. If it wouldn’t have been a weekend it would’ve been sent back. Years later had a source on Chinese generic drums and rotors and actually had good success selling them with almost no complaints. We had a family owned auto parts store for over 50 years and had most of the major brands in that time. Unfortunately years ago there wasn’t unbiased comparison videos.
@antoniorodriguez59162 ай бұрын
Where do you buy the akebono brake rotors, I can not find anywhere?
@kanyeeastlolz2 ай бұрын
Lots of good brand manufactures out there
@vboutique21882 ай бұрын
When did bed in brakes start? Do most mechanics do that?
@Dolph6812 ай бұрын
I've been using using different manufacturers here in Europe throughout the years. From cheap to expensive. The most consistent(quality wise) brake discs and pads are TRW. My previous set up was great but dislike the brakes because they needed warming up in order to work well. Discs Brembo Extra pad EBC yellow stuff. Now i got regular Disc Delphi and regular pads ATE, the discs worped 5000km from new, utter rubbish. I would like to tray Ferodo and Pagid
@leonardofreeman883313 күн бұрын
TRW Lucas (Spain) has consistent braking performance however, very dusty and noisy. You compromise with every brand and I would pick braking power over quiet pad/ceramic formula any day of the week. They do require discs that can handle high heat otherwise you prob end up with a warped set. Defs run good brake fluid too, Motul RBF 600/660 does the trick.
@martinskamla67893 ай бұрын
Metallurgy company owner here in Europe…… that rotor warping explanation is not actually very accurate as thickness variation itself kinda does create an S like you described….. No material gets deposited back onto the rotor as you described what happens is that the variable metal quality on the rotor causes some spots to wear more than others and that is what becomes the low spots It is also possible to warp rotor like a literal S by differential cooling such as driving through a puddle with very hot brakes or parking the car with the parking brake engaged after driving hard and having hot brakes
@williamalexander174321 күн бұрын
Uh-oh, I can produce a confirmation of where the Textar rotors are manufactured. Pause the video when the camera is showing the closest view of the label. Tap your screen to get rid of the arrows on KZbin. Use two fingers to expand the video. Above the UPC seal, it says "made in China."
@stevelacasse99Ай бұрын
Most Textar rotors (if not all) we've gotten have been chinese. Agree with most the rest of them, but would probably swap out the Akebono's with Advics, if available obviously.
@g35silver2 ай бұрын
Great videos. Just one question: does it matter if the rotors are solid or have holes? Do the holes help dissipate heat? What’s your opinion? Use them or not?
@andyhedges57052 ай бұрын
For normal driving, vented and/or grooved discs do absolutely nothing.
@markleggett39444 күн бұрын
@@andyhedges5705 I agree. I think it's more of marketing ploy to make one's car more like a race car.
@AaronBlankenship2 ай бұрын
I've always scrolled through lots of argument and comments about warped rotors. The cause that the manufacturers used to help you fix, simply isn't being done anymore, the parts aren't available: hub run out. If the rotor isn't spinning perfect and the caliper is even slightly dragging, it's going to wear unevenly. I hear so many people talk about so many years of this in that, but what they don't talk about is actually fixing the problem. Why does the car produce warped rotors and what can you do to fix it. I measure the run out of a rotor when I install it on the car and install shims to fix it if needed. Done deal no more warping.
@MyOsistАй бұрын
No bosch? They usually make good parts in general
@montefiveforty13 ай бұрын
I have machined hundreds of rotors in my career and i can promise you it wasn't from pad transfer.
@rey_at_rsquared3 ай бұрын
There are two primary reasons: 1) Uneven wear due to improper mounting of the wheel (torque not to specs) or due to wheel bearing having some play, or due to not cleaning the surface where the rotor meets the wheel. 2) Pad material transfer
@needadate2 ай бұрын
Me too, and I can promise you they were all from pad transfer.
@mjkuwp942 ай бұрын
Could be from a bent hub. Rotor will wobble on a bent hub and unevenly wear the rotor. Happened to me. Bought that car used... I am not the one who hit the curb.
@BMan100Ай бұрын
buy OE... cause god knows what the dreaded M adds to the end of it, besides more cost. Coated 100%... though I live in Ontario lol Got the Brembo UV on the back of my Challenger, though it's kinda..so so with it's coating resistance.