What causes crime? Outgoing Police Commissioner | Q+A 2024

[@MichaelEnright-gk6yc]

Mark Mitchell and National have scapegoated Andrew Coster

[@mikefriend7570]

Andrew Coster will be a hard act to follow. An intelligent, compassionate man who clearly understands that solutions are not black and white and that unless we address the root causes of violence, poverty, alienation and hopelessness policing will forever remain as the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.

[@222-i6o]

the whole context is ppl not taking personal responsibility, the state cant make ppl do this and thy cant and dont wont too, ther are soo many poor immigrant groups tht come to ths cuntry and r able to gt the basics right....these ppl r far poorer thn any nzrs

[@cherylcarr5690]

@@222-i6o That is an interesting take that you have from that interview. I didn’t get that at all but maybe it is our pre-conceived ideas that have us take from the interview that which we wish to 🤔. An interesting thought 💭

[@222-i6o]

@@cherylcarr5690 thy wer discussing y crime exists in poor areas, on a poverty per capita basis its nt jst areas like south auckland tht are seriously poor central auckland apt have alot of vry poor immigrants diffrnt demographic but these ppl are frm proper poor cuntrys and wen thy arive thy work a min wage job....draw yor conclusions frm tht

[@fabiennebovis-higgins7149]

Great interview - people who fall for the divisive sound bites won’t like him, but he shows how meaningless BS like ‘tough on crime’ is, when we do not address the whole context.

[@SiliconBong]

Being "tough on crime" has reduced crime as much as 'Drink Responsibly' has reduced alcoholism.

[@222-i6o]

the whole context is ppl not taking personal responsibility, the state cant make ppl do this and thy cant and dont wont too, ther are soo many poor immigrant groups tht come to ths cuntry and r able to gt the basics right....these ppl r far poorer thn any nzrs

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@222-i6o They have to have a certain amount of money to immigrate here, since it seems like you are not aware. According the latest reports, 59% of new zealanders don't have any savings outside kiwisaver, and almost 30% don't even have that anymore - having to withdraw it under hardship or to try and buy a home. The facts do not support your views.

[@222-i6o]

@@tanepukenga1421 yor fact have nothing to do with my argument, immigrating to nz doesnt cost 50k u twit at the most a ticket is under 10k, and kiwi saver is savings and if thy withdraw it to buy a house tht isnt money lost its money reinvested in a property.....have a think about how things actually work

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@222-i6o Yes it does. How dense are you?

[@gpa6528]

Thankyou for your service Commissioner Coster 🙏

[@warrenwood3212]

Around 11 minutes in he is saying, “ it is complex”. And it is, it requires a media to take these complex problems and fact check and contextualise. Ultimately our media lets us down in not doing its job, and we are left everywhere with non factual or partially factual , non contextual information that leaves a society unable to debate our problems. Media again and again has failed its job, its job! It’s responsibility as the fourth estate. Not to give us news or entertainment but to do its jog of fact checking and contextualising , at , a , minimum!!

[@222-i6o]

its nt complex ther r plenty of poor immigrant frm the actual 3rd wurld tht cum here earn a min wage and do perfectly ok, ths poverty nonsense doesnt fly anymore

[@jamesmartin4500]

@@warrenwood3212 in the most part the NZ media is Hard Left and pushes its own agenda regardless of the facts

[@WeraroaWizard]

I agree that the media is part of the problem, but its not completely their fault. Ultimately media providers need to pay the bills, and unfortunately the current ecosystem incentivizes sub par content. We need to get to the root of the issue, which is complicated and involves things like more investment in education, media, a perspective shift on tech business models and how the internet content is funded, preventing monopolies such as meta/google etc. and many more things. Its easy to use the media as a scapegoat, but it isn't so black and white

[@kapitidon]

Dangerous times when police are now being directed by politics and no longer impartial. Same thing happened in London when Cressida Dick had to stand down, now look how bad policing is there now.

[@philip88154]

Police have never been and can never be politically 'impartial'. After all, how they operate and what they do impacts peoples and communities significantly which makes their conduct inherently political. People tend to call impartial whatever political opinions they tend to agree with. It's dangerous when this happens because it means they see their opinion as some higher truth, rather than a political opinion which deserves constant reappraisal and questioning

[@kapitidon]

@philip88154 Police is by consent and their job is to keep the peace and apply the law.

[@DebbieMcCarthy-hl3pw]

He is lovely. So down to earth.

[@nzrockboi]

This commissioner had to deal with a ton of adversarial journalism, often I felt sorry for him in the pressure of his interviews. But adversarial journalist is fundamentally necessary in his position and he never buckled, never lost his temper and gave answers where answers could be given, he was calm and never lost his cool. And fuck me, he looks young and he's bloody sexy.

[@midnightalchemist2]

A decent, intelligent and successful man whose wisdom will be lost on the degenerate, thick and failed people who often criticise (see other comments) whom politicians skillfully exploit for personal gain.

[@bungee7503]

I do some voluntary work in south Auckland. It’s certainly an eye opener and shows why some kids are just being prepped for a criminal life, poor little beggars.

[@kelz6569]

Respected real legendary member of winning NZ TEAM 🇬🇸🎉🚨🚓🚔🎖️🎯🌻🍀👮💯

[@bebopdestroyer4641]

one of the public service greats in my books.

[@kelvinmuggeridge6282]

Exceptional interview.

[@johnhigh-z5g]

A remarkable guy who has overseen a remarkable team of policing. I am gratefull to him and his crew. The Son-Live. He can come with me to the Holy City, and bring his family with him. On the day of Judgement.

[@sinamumuta7910]

Good your safety is more important, and the families.

[@normanlesley1867]

Been burgled and did not bother to call the cops. It was not worth the effort. Not series enough, nothing we can do or the doessey of them all it is A civil matter. Do we laugh or cry.

[@bungee7503]

Been broken into and did call the cops. Fingerprints lady within 2 hours and good support after that. So understand your frustration, but police response is not universally bad.

[@WeraroaWizard]

so you're gonna blame the police because you were too lazy to call them? you really showed them

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@bungee7503 Lucky for you. I called and one guy came out several days later and pointedly ignored the pill bottle with the guy's name on it. So I tracked him down myself. They let him keep everything I owned because I couldn't "prove" the special edition ps2 (one of only 3 they made in the world as a competition prize) wasn't one he also won. Also have a friend who was run over. They showed up 2 hours later and didn't even look for the guy or ask for the cctv footage. I get they're massively understaffed, but there comes a point where you start to think it's better to go to the gangs than the police when there's this little justice.

[@Freedom4NME2025]

I just want to see a consistent level of professionalism from our policy enforcers.

[@roimatamitchell712]

Phenomenal Commissioner

[@RedSonja.]

Sad that govt dosent look after him enough to stay on

[@Kelvinpaul4]

National wanted him gone, National made it quite clear his face didn't fit.

[@sashmeetaprasad]

​@Kelvinpaul4 they hate his guts?

[@Kelvinpaul4]

@@sashmeetaprasad but why do they hate him?

[@sashmeetaprasad]

I have no idea, but National is acting very suspiciously. They're firing people who are qualified for their jobs. I wonder who they'll pick as the next police commissioner.

[@shanelmurray3448]

@@Kelvinpaul4 maybe not National so much, but NZ Firsts base doesn't like him for breaking up the Parliament protests, ACT and National doesn't like him because their base is "anti woke" and percieves him as being so, though their idea of woke is what any normal person should think some times. National has to hate him because their rhetoric has been going against Labour, no matter if it was going well. So National doesn't hate him personally, but endorsing him would go against their push before the election.

[@tigertiger1699]

I assert that we are very lucky to have such a generally calm, adult, honest police force..

[@ObiePaddles]

@@tigertiger1699 doesn’t make him competent.

[@tigertiger1699]

@@ObiePaddles Didn’t say it did there paddies.., & your opinion doesn’t negate mine../ comment How about cooling it n not putting words in others mouths

[@saregama-r8td]

@@ObiePaddlesactually emotional intelligence does make him competent

[@tanepukenga1421]

"to have had

[@tigertiger1699]

@@tanepukenga1421 Have you travelled globally

[@les8518]

New Zealand has the most honest Police Force in the World.

[@perryanderson9103]

Cuddles exactly

[@ronnynolegs]

Cuddles Coster

[@warrenwood3212]

Agree with you too, I am not saying media is the whole problem and wholeheartedly agree that a good democracy will fail without an educated public. But media is a huge part of the problem, I understand your problems in that space, but it becomes circular if we all grumble the problem and don’t take action. Media is a massive pillar in democracy. Just simply fact checking and contextualising would mitigate huge issues around debate in both the public and our elected officials. Each group can bemoan the issues. I say that media individuals need to appreciate and value their job and go over and over this, as all true professionals and passionate humanitarians do if the value what they do. I fail , sorry, to accept the excuses. I see them, I understand, some, but not all of them . But still I call media to action.

[@daviniatuhura3933]

The most beautiful man that I ever met in my whole life ❤❤❤.

[@WadeVictor-m1x]

Strange street waitara river stop bank over flowed only at police station years ago hence clean it there's heaps of reasons TREATMENT to who

[@mattelliott3685]

My personal experience of dealing with police has been positive, but my overall view of policing is that there are too many unprosecuted crimes now which leads kiwis to believe that crims are able to operate at a level where they get away with crime more often in the past. I understand that the police are underfunded, but I wonder if it is now time to fully reexamine the structure of policing and how there could be a more effective way to coordinate crime prevention, not just turn up in car if the crime is serious enough. Part of the problem may be that police are too protective of their own organisation, numbers could cost effectively be increased if they had a similar system to special constables in the UK who could take up the slack for some basic patrolling, sports events etc. No expert here though, I just think that there needs to be questions raised about the perceived failure of the current system, and a feeling of lawlessness in NZ.

[@Mmarchand]

job well done, it is a credit to you Sir yes NZ police are amazing & keeping all people in the community safe! maybe people 18 + make choices for them self's WHAT IS right OR wrong and sold enough to own their actions its as simple as that! No matter their up bringing or family life ITS A BAD CIRCLE of nothing but crap excuses.... no one should blame any one or situation on THEIR yes ,yes , their choices, excuses like 'my home life made me like this!' what crap... PEOPLE SHOULD yes , everyone is responsible for their own choices and adults getting youths to do their crime because they are youth so won't go jail bad pressure on youths tragic news!! We all know t MANY people had a hard up bringing or having tough time ect.. facts THEY DO NOT GO OFF THE RAILS & not decide to act cruel, harmful even dangerous in the community or do serious crime push their kids to follow in their crime bad, bully life NOT COOL to act up at all no excuses! tragic excuses even can be heart braking for some people involved, & sad too ( 18+ they made their choice and did wrong choice broke NZ law brought it on by their own choice !!!! or their kids witness their parents family bad, bad choices of such a horrible bad acts of crime bring harm to others, so what is that showing the younger generation !!!! just scary do crime pay the time harden up NZ legal system so people who do crime do not want to return to jail as so many people return NZ gov harden up NZ jails

[@evelynbruton1805]

Social worker not a law officer 14:27

[@loubliss7471]

It's not gangs, it's meth people on meth are so irrational, angry and paranoid it's frightening.

[@murrayclarke2171]

Im pretty you get meth from gangs not the pharmacy.

[@tracymichaelsen493]

Scratch the surface on meth and the govt is behind it.

[@dmuskett284]

Nope, it's Cody's. All day every day.

[@tracymichaelsen493]

@@dmuskett284 Court Inna can bro

[@WeraroaWizard]

where do you think meth comes from ya dingus?

[@christophermarshall527]

We live in a world full of armchair critics who apparently know far more. than those that, trained for, and do the job. Maori make up 52% of our Prison system and 15% of our population.

[@roddas26]

What's your point?

[@mikewilliams6086]

National again not following up on anything other than account balances. Another rich idiot looking after the rich

[@dmuskett284]

I think his job was hard. But labour and greens tied their hands behind their backs and made them the baddies. The victims havebeen pushed aside because greens and labour believe perpetrators have higher status victim hood.

[@skyline472]

Top boss had enough to , he gone

[@ducker09]

He's been misunderstood at times ?. You got that right brother 😅😅😮

[@braydancoe3390]

You couldn't do a better job.

[@andrewwatson1690]

Why is the acronym for the Armed Defenders Squad A.O.C? The Armed Offenders Squad? 😂

[@bobanyfingelf]

Armed Offenders Squad

[@blinkyblink102]

Are you joking? What a moron lol.

[@roddas26]

​@@bobanyfingelfA.O.C ?

[@jamesmartin4500]

Nice little puff piece for Coster with zero interruptions or badgering by Jack. Jack didn't ask a single difficult question.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

Exactly why I didn't bother watching it and just read the comments .

[@jame2433]

He’s leaving though, what are you holding him accountable for in an interview of this nature

[@jtonline99]

Probably because he actually thoughtfully answered questions asked instead of the puff pieces Luxon and his cronies normally deliver the media

[@bdub884]

@@stewatparkpark2933 typical whiny npc who doesn't even watch the interview and give it a fair shake 😂

[@stewatparkpark2933]

@@bdub884 Thanks for the support .

[@hwcanotabot]

First step to solving a problem- Stop saying it’s just as bad everywhere else in the world. It’s bad here, that’s what people care about, so fix the problem here and stop trying to enforce a new normal.

[@WeraroaWizard]

its called context

[@hwcanotabot]

@@WeraroaWizardIt’s a comparison, not context. Context would mean a deeper insight into the way the data was collected and why it reflected what it did, which for the most part was either missing or unsatisfactory.

[@WeraroaWizard]

@@hwcanotabot well maybe you are technically right, but the way i see it is that nz isn’t a closed system. globalisation and social media and all these things that connect modern societies together have an impact which you can’t ignore. Look at the anti mandate protests, they were largely funded by international organisations that have a hidden agenda. They intentionally polarised our country even though they have no reason to be involved in nz politics

[@barefootonasandybeach638]

The man was a ‘wet’ from day one.

[@mcgruff3309]

I used to have respect until the lockdowns! Just showed me they can enforce laws when they want, even when It went against the innocent who did nothing wrong!

[@tanepukenga1421]

Yeah, so you ignored them and caused the lockdowns to last for longer. Great job at being irresponsible

[@jeffyoung345]

One of Arderns henchmen...cousin infact...

[@wileyfox3436]

Be difficult to find a replacement of his calibre. He probably got tired of Mark Snitches and Baldy.

[@chrisrutherfurd9338]

I rolled my eyes before even watching this.

[@tt_Kakashii3007]

Well it's good to hear what Chris Rutherford thinks of crime. I think we'll stick to listening to the career expert though lol

[@TonyTMH]

He's useless anyways

[@peterchapman8753]

Oh dear, not a loss fortunately, help turned policing into a joke

[@stewatparkpark2933]

He allowed vigilante road blocks during Covid .

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

I hope they blocked your car.

[@dmuskett284]

Mmm can't argue with u on this

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@dmuskett284 Logic or looking at the old articles means I can. They weren't vigilantes, they were there with police support and had officers onsite, all because people like stewart broke them, making them last way longer than they should have (only lasted 2 weeks in dunners and 4 weeks in chch total) simply because they wanted to choose to be irresponsible. Then he fooled people like you with his anti-maori crap so you didn't even bother doing your due diligence and google it to see if he was telling the truth or not. spoiler: he's not.

[@dmuskett284]

@@tanepukenga1421 ok then. Although thanks for putting words in my mouth

[@dmuskett284]

@@tanepukenga1421 and actually all I said was the guy had a point about the road blocks.

[@QuintaSoutar-j5j]

See ya later!

[@deanspanley4472]

I think the biblical Judges should be back in control. People would realise taking advantage of people and breaking moral laws, with intent, are just not worth losing ones head over 🐍⚖️☝️🔥

[@TeWakaOAoraki]

I think you should take the new testament and the teachings of Christ a bit more seriously if you're actually advocating for the death penalty for petty crime like you seem to be.

[@deanspanley4472]

@@TeWakaOAoraki I think you should realise we are in times and those who make victims of others for their own personal gain is inexcusable and often the practice of defending them is the way of those of the ilk. There's no excuse for bad blood.🐍⚖️☝️🔥

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@deanspanley4472 You'd be dead for eating bacon

[@IM-lr6vz]

NZ needs a CECOT prison like El Salvador.

[@buffalobill2874]

@@IM-lr6vz is it the ones where the police have to meet performance metrics so they just go around picking up any person to put in there?

[@kotukuwhakapiko467]

Jail! For both

[@buffalobill2874]

Hi Jack, hi Porirua graduate. Did he go to the same school as a former prime Minister? Or is one mimicking the other..

[@ruthrajedwards9309]

People must change their behaviour ! No one can do it for them ! Words only , no solutions !

[@Sharpy7562]

Wolf in sheep’s clothing nothing is ever as it seems

[@Kiwistoicist]

Surge of shop rams, surge of thieves, surge of internet crime, all sorts of corruption- traffic fine collectors you are! You are here to deal with criminals and make them scare - not to protect them

[@tanepukenga1421]

Are you under the assumption the ram raids STOPPED???? They're there to stop crime, not to give you warm fuzzies by hurting dumb kids as much as possible. Move to a place they chop hands for stealing if that's what you want. It's certainly stopped ALL CRIME in those countries.

[@rickyhowe7451]

No one misunderstood he was arderns lap dog

[@sashmeetaprasad]

I heard that even she did not want him to become police commissioner.

[@tanepukenga1421]

Nah, that's what you wanted to conn us all into believing while you lot threw chemicals on our cops during your 'protest'. No wonder we're losing cops in droves.

[@deanpendigrast7255]

Everyone has choices some just choose to comment crime we don't live in third world country where there is no benefits family's get benefits and housing just excuses after excuses

[@Kelvinpaul4]

It all sounds so easy, you obviously are speaking form experience .

[@honahwikeepa2115]

A Hegelian Synthesis between right and wrong failed the nation miserably.

[@222-i6o]

gud riddance

[@RatboyZB7]

English immigrants

[@Vic-l3l]

Soft interview by Jack Lame. Nothing to be gained from this conversation. Just a bunch of useless sound bites

[@mrokesene]

So he is now going to a new role where he’ll be wasting $70b of our money.

[@magamike1800]

Soft on crime. Coster is a disgrace.

[@dmuskett284]

Hamstrung by woke ideologies

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@dmuskett284 Otherwise known as : Research

[@hira4369]

This woke clown was incompetent on the front line and ridiculed by his colleagues. No wonder he was so out of touch in his position and had zero leadership ability

[@ObiePaddles]

Just incompetent and dealt with ‘protesters’ terribly. Off to another soft role.

[@chrismckellar9350]

By your comment, I guess you have indepth knowledge and practical experience of how to deal with riots.

[@ObiePaddles]

@@chrismckellar9350 by your comment I know you make stupid generalisations and exagerations. Which Riot are you talking about.

[@resrevr]

@@ObiePaddles Probably the one where the protestors were flinging their own shit

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@ObiePaddles - You are not much better stupid generalisations and exagerations. With regards riots take your pick

[@ObiePaddles]

@@chrismckellar9350 cant even spell I see. You said there was a riot, you name one.

[@jasoncollins1702]

It’s hard to detect any real suitability for either role.

[@rjjames9336]

Hello everyone, this is your daily dose of internet

[@chrismckellar9350]

At least it is better than woke rabbit media disinformation and conspiracy theories.

[@tracymichaelsen493]

​@@chrismckellar9350problem with conspiracy theories when they ate proven to be true the sheep don't even notice the difference. Cloud seeding was poo pooed. Now it's a thing. Since when? Creating clouds is also a thing. Yet climate change is natural. Ye right.

[@SiliconBong]

@@chrismckellar9350 Radio. It's the only media I trust these days.

[@bentrewartha9793]

Id like to "feel safer" we need to pay the police more or they get bribed

[@Kelvinpaul4]

Police accepting a bribe, is extremely rare.

[@bentrewartha9793]

@@Kelvinpaul4 I believe so but Australia bribes them with better pay. I'm of the option we should have the best police force in the world

[@89hatters]

​@@bentrewartha9793so you'd be happy for a tax increase to better fund the ? In the Manawatu there is a non sworn recruitment freeze, my daughters department is 3 personal down with no replacements. Soon officers will be having to do their own paperwork which they have no training for. That means less front line beat time.

[@bentrewartha9793]

@@89hatters no one wants higher taxes there's got to be another way

[@bentrewartha9793]

@@89hatters I heard SEAN PLUNKETT suggest a scrapping govt. Funded media altogether.........let the people chose there news source sounds very democratic to me, could work. What do you think?

[@evelynbruton1805]

What a jerk. Jacinta kindness leads to lack of definite boundary’s and depends on being liked to get law and order. Again what a nerd

[@tanepukenga1421]

You were the jerks that threatened to rape her baby.

[@danielpye7738]

What causes crime? Is the title. It’s quite simple, bad people doing what comes naturally to them. The majority of people we call impoverished are not criminals and conversely rich people also commit crimes. He ignored the Phillipines as a model for dealing crime lol. Sweden and the Nordic countries, well crimes gone up as far as I am aware. Especially sexual crimes against women.

[@tanepukenga1421]

No it hasn't, that's propaganda you were dumb enough to not see if it was real or not. I checked it out and found REALLY easily that it was all bullshit. They had a DROP in rape cases. But you believe the trumpers without bothering to even google, it seems like that the limit of your bot-ness

[@ruthrajedwards9309]

Parenting , parenting and parenting ! This is the solution ! Poor adult behaviour endures all who follow end up just like them ! Being kind is not the answer and punishing is not the answer ! It is people, it is people , it is people who have to come D forward in their homes to make the changes that society needs ! Andrew Coster was not a good PC ! He was useless !Making excuses and being excused by the media ! Jack Tame is partial ! Poor interview !

[@petedaniels6330]

Jack tame politicians puppets.

[@berniefynn6623]

Placing pedestrian and cyclists safety on the drivers is not on and contrary to the road code, is this guy so thick he cannot read, We now have people running on the wrong side of the road, two abreast at times and think they can, this clown has created entitlement, look at people at supermarkets, walk where they like while I am looking of a park, get hit,their fault.Same with cyclists, use your eyes and brains, your safety is your problem.

[@ruthrajedwards9309]

Parenting , parenting and parenting ! This is the solution ! Poor adult behaviour endures all who follow end up just like them ! Being kind is not the answer and punishing is not the answer ! It is people, it is people , it is people who have to come D forward in their homes to make the changes that society needs ! Andrew Coster was not a good PC ! He was useless !Making excuses and being excused by the media ! Jack Tame is partial ! Poor interview !

[@tanepukenga1421]

Way to announce you've never bothered actually looking into the justice system in this country lol.