Chris Bishop: Why ministers are taking major new powers | Q+A 2024

[@W_Bin]

No policy. No goals. No idea of the consequences. Just doing what he's told. What a pity Governments are not personally liable like company directors.

[@Nicole.1828]

So under this government we are only a democracy every three years at voting time and in between we have no say. This fast track consenting bill should alarm ALL New Zealanders.

[@greggiles7309]

This what the non voters get.

[@kiwi792]

Is that really any different to the last government or any before. Those that didn’t vote for it end up unhappy with the policy it put through. How much was snuck through by labour under the smokescreen of covid? Was that democracy.

[@aoteataniwha6967]

Exactly mate!!

[@johnnyp3161]

They are fast tracking what they were voted in to do, and campaigned. Unlike Cindy ramming in disastrous policies that were intentionally hidden from voters. Like hepuapua, co governance, oil exploration ban etc

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@johnnyp3161 - You really want this country to be an environmental and urban basket case by support this quick, short term thinking and planning government. What would you do, say in the mediate future there is a major global geopolitical crises that has a major impact on global economics, trade, manufacturing, supply chains, etc creating a rapid financial increase on import good including fuels and petrol raise say $3, $4 or possibility $5 a litre? It happened before in the mid 1970's.

[@adamevans7945]

Anecdotal evidence. Brilliant. Meanwhile the prime minister is seeking the benefit for his mortgage free home.

[@jimmydogg9520]

Great interview Jack you had him wearing 3 hats.Minster for Housing,Leader of the House and National Party Campaign Manager.You had him on the ropes a couple of times there

[@user-mk7tf1um7l]

So you sold of social housing off. Got ridd of apprentice training so never trained anybody to build them..and keys sold the forests to the Chinese so we had no timber to build them with.

[@jgjfaulkner]

Hmmmm Selling off westland milk company was under Jacinda. Spose you ll claim dairy industry is not important. Can you show your research on Hectares sold to foreigners. I know plenty of land is now locked up never to be harvested as they are carbon sinks . Plenty to foreign investors , that was not Key. You didn’t throw the usual “ record immigration “ on key , 😀Those records blown out the water past cpl years.

[@jgjfaulkner]

Got rid of apprentices training , that’s funny plenty of training was done. Cuz in did his electrical apprenticeship 2008/20011 ish.

[@BRUCE_the_MOOSE_]

​@@jgjfaulkner Yes, because Labour led governments instigated apprenticeship programs after National had diluted them from previous years, during the 1990s in particular.

[@maggigee6867]

Abusing their rights and privileges? Like living in their own mortgage free apartment, and taking an accomodation supplement because of it, while there's a house up the road thats been good enough for every other prime minister?

[@kiwi792]

Agree. Poor look. Might have been better to just take a portion to cover the actual cost to him (ie rates and insurance cost). But in theory if it’s an “entitelememt” then he is entitled to it. Just like many other social entitlements that people take from the taxpayer across all spectrums that might be questionable. If it’s there most people take it whether they need it or not. But credit I guess that he has given it up. I wonder if we went back and looked at what Arden and Key and so on going back claimed as other “entitlements” to their base salary if people might equally be outraged. And also what they are still claiming after stepping down. No word though in media about all the other current sitting politicians (many labour including Willie Jackson) that are doing the EXACT same thing. Just on a lower total amount. So I guess we either have that as something politicians are entitled to or it goes? If it’s there then they can choose to have it. I’m sure many of those criticising if put in the same position would also take the supplement. It’s unfortunately human nature.

[@somchais2100]

Build a bridge. Get over it. Don't hear you moaning about Ginny Andersen and her dodgy rental deals with Meng Foon.

[@user-ek1sq3bj4z]

20 Labour MPs taking accommodation allowance very little from MSM about that. Jacinda lived in premier house bugger all. Premier house is a dive & should be totally rebuilt for the top job of New Zealand so Luxon was perfectly entitled to that allowance if his employer can’t provide him with suitable accommodation. If his apartment is freehold doesn’t matter. Small minded socialist mentality.

[@AiriniSamuels]

Actually the judgemental 7:25 language without factual Evidence or should I say not taking on board experts advice. The behavior and do as I say not what I do attitude. this Collation Government have being using Repealing policy's in 100 days, not thought through and where is forward planning. Applying Chaos across the board to use to invoke change as saying goes ( For every action there is a reaction

[@maggigee6867]

Uhhh .... Chris Bishop brought it up! That's why I commented on it!

[@harmonyadams7577]

Interest deductibility Will not push down rents. When interest rates were rock bottom landlords DID NOT pass it on to renters!

[@jgjfaulkner]

One thing we know for a fact is literally everything that Jacinda promised would work didn’t . Having rented my place during mostly J Key tenure I hardly put rent up over a 8 year period. Less than 10 % Because my costs didn’t increase much. Five years of putting costs on landlords, farmers truckers etc etc Rents doubled. Food increased at record rates ….. everything that woman did backfired on HER voters.

[@effectuality6700]

@@jgjfaulkner Except that we see the same result globally - perhaps these changes are in spite of local policy, rather than because of them?

[@jgjfaulkner]

@@effectuality6700 Her war cry was “affordable housing for all” , kiwibuild had failed well before the Lab leak . Plus we printed more money per person than any in the oecd according to some sources. She ignore rising inflation, her spend spend with very lil to show for it fuelled it …. yes some was global. Numerous time the “covid fund” was spent on mp s pet projects. Money that was never budgeted for …. Grant was told by treasury / Ombudsman a cpl times to not do that. Like taking time to learn basic economic fundamentals he knew better than them. Eg flooding an economy with huge sums of money drop interest rates then lifts inflation . The way to drop inflation up interest rates. Did I know that … well 3.69 % interest for five years. Plus my assets sured 72 % in one year alone. Shanks to all those that believed in Jacinda and Grants ability to juggle a countries finances. 😂

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@jgjfaulkner The left will never underdstand that fact.They never will and dont want to.They just want the tax payer to pay for them, free of charge.

[@urkput]

​@@effectuality6700there's a global agenda and a global market.

[@adsdft585]

If the National Government had built houses in the period 2009 to 2017 like period 2000 to 2009 together with 2017 to 2023. Labour built 17,000 but National reduced houses by 2,000. So you see National failed NZ.

[@somchais2100]

Ardern promised 100000 KiwiBuild homes. Where are they? Another Labour fail.

[@mattheweden-pc5pk]

Just remember in that time we had the gfs, 2 earthquakes

[@tracygrant7931]

​@@mattheweden-pc5pk Just remember in Labour's stint, we had a pandemic, a cyclone, and a war that has significantly affected a lot of countries.

[@DaParty3473]

He just said " we will do what WE see fit, if you don't like it - vote us out" Problem is, the DAMAGE WILL BE DONE!!!

[@somchais2100]

Jacinda Ardern promised 100 000 Kiwi build homes. Where are they all?

[@kiwi792]

As it had been from the past 6y. I guess what he is saying is that is the accountability that jack is alluding to. That’s the true test of whether their policies will work or not. They have made a decision that they think is best (as any government does) and time will tell what happens. It’s why the last group were voted out so resoundingly.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@somchais2100 Exactly. The left have forgotten that fact.They want the long suffering taxpayer to pay for FREE.

[@mark561]

Given the country is currently bankrupt, I'd say the damage is well & truly already done?

[@patriciakimber4312]

I doubt very much that anything could do more damage to this country than Jacinda the liar They will get a second term no doubt 😂

[@roberthooker4970]

The change of interest deductiblilty on 1 April will reduce government revenue by 3 billion. This money could fund 3,000 house at 1m each. It reflect policy.

[@jamesjenkins3276]

Better to leave that money in the economy so the private sector can do the building far more cost effectively and efficiently than bloated government will.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Will it ?

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Will it ?

[@raywheeler3135]

@@jamesjenkins3276 The private sector also build the houses owned by government. So the cost effectiveness and efficiency cannot be any different.

[@user-br9rj5hc8n]

Who is going to be held liable when it goes wrong.NZers just picked up the dismantling of an offshore rig half a billion to clean up the mess we pay

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

It hasnt happened yet.

[@AiriniSamuels]

Is that the Tamarind Taranaki went bust in November 2019. Owed $600m to secure and unsecured creditors. Due to company collapse the Crown was left responsibility of decommissioned field. Expected final $443 m. And this Government want to let in Manuka Resources. Australian Company in to Taranaki basin by Kupe well

[@SuperHone12]

I've got to hand it to Chris, he's like a rare unicorn in politics - actually admitting when he's clueless and owning up to his mistakes. And Jack, buddy, you're setting the place on fire with your research skills! Maybe they'll chain you to the desk, huh? You're probably one of the last remaining journalists who hasn't drunk the "woke" Kool-Aid and stays refreshingly unbiased.😄

[@stephenlennon7369]

Chris is about dirty politics 😅

[@tommcg7564]

Keyword - “clueless”

[@JustTheWholeTruthPlease]

WOKE 1. You read books and don’t burn them. 2. You embrace science. 3. You are willing to change your mind when new information becomes available. 4. You understand that most Issues are not black and white. 5. You believe In true equality for all people. 6. You like to share. 7. You embrace cooperation. 8. You respect others’ rights. 9. You believe culture and the arts have value. 10. You care for the planet and all of its life.

[@maggigee6867]

We don't want to rent! We want to buy! Stop making buying investment properties MORE attractive! We don't need more landlords! We need to ALL own our own houses! That's how you fix the housing crisis! And the emergency housing issues, and the health issues and the crime issues! And other social issues!

[@andreatodd3095]

Agree, banks need to change rules for first home buyers. Gvt should help out as well. Stop going to Uni and building up debt so you can save for a house. Unless your degree gets you a substantially higher wage it's really not worth it.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Why haven't you saved your pennies to buy a home.? I had to.Now im mortgage free.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@andreatodd3095 With that thinking , you either belong to the Green Party or you think the long suffering taxpayer should pay for you.Get real.

[@andreatodd3095]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj you couldn't be more wrong, I'm thinking of the next generation....many can't save because they are paying off student debt as it's taken into consideration when you apply for a loan. I'm talking about a one off assistance package not by handout but by reduced rates for first home buyers only. A fees free uni year would go somewhere to helping out as it is now, but more could be done by banks.

[@tommcg7564]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4djand you’re probably a national or an act supporter who moved to nz quite recently

[@user-vr1vm7ng2p]

Ring around the Rosie politics! Jack - well done for trying to get a straight answer out of these muppets but it just won't happen b/c they don't know themselves!

[@davidthomson692]

If an area of land is designated for housing. When it goes to market it should have legal requirements that 10% of the allocated houses are built within two year 20% the second year 30% the third year. If not built the rates for the houses that do not yet exist still must be paid to council. This will STOP 🛑 land banking. Give councils cash for infrastructure before the demand is realised. I have just subdivided. It cost three times more than forecast Council moved the goal posts Caused delays. And none of the staff I engaged with in the beginning were still employed by the council

[@maggigee6867]

And staying with family members? As in making someone elses house over crowded, which makes more fire risk and more chance of communicable illnesses spreading?

[@somchais2100]

Stop wrecking the houses then. It's not brain surgery.

[@turangatohiariki3042]

​@@somchais2100Why your lot leave your homeland's TO FIND A BETTER THEM WAR TORN POOR OR UNLIVABLE

[@kiwi792]

If you respect the property you are helped into by the government then you stay and don’t have to stay with family. Pretty simple. That’s the point he is making regards those few people that trash the place they are given. I really can’t see what the issue is. If lots of others are lining up for help (in a setting of supply demand imbalance) and are prepared to look after the property then it should go to them instead of those that destroy the place. Where they then go is up to them.

[@somchais2100]

Speak English ya clown.@@turangatohiariki3042

[@maggigee6867]

@@somchais2100 people would be less likely to wreck a home they owned 🤷🏻‍♀️ it's not brain surgery to figure that out

[@adsdft585]

Can lobby groups affect ministers thinking?

[@kiwi792]

Unfortunately they do. Across all parties not just the three in power. None are immune or free of the ear of lobbyists. Just depends which ones align to their views. Just look at what ministers have moved into lobbying or “consultancy” jobs.

[@mikestray76]

That's the whole point of lobbying. To try and convince the MP(s) that what you want to do is a good thing and it should be approved or at least looked into.

[@myresponsesarelimited7895]

With enough money of course - true of all governments. We all know experts are not chosen for their expertise, but based on political leaning. Look at American military experts ...all Raytheon, Boeing, arms production executives.

[@benzchew]

How refreshing to see the comments left on for a mainstream media channel!

[@josiecampbell7639]

You wait Jack will lose his job

[@juliebrothers]

Yes

[@juliebrothers]

Good that people can comment

[@crazyworld7115]

Maybe on but sensored hard.

[@justinpagelawrie]

I want to know who is on this 'expert panel'. Is it Atlas?

[@adsdft585]

National will not name them. National did not name their tax experts during the election.

[@KieraHafermalz-Wheeler]

Atlas, heritage Foundation, Koch brothers and others, fascism here we come

[@AiriniSamuels]

Absolutely Atlas and we have Alan Gibbs daughter Debbie Gibbs Chair of Atlas Network think tank, oh by the way Alan Gibbs was Active member on the Roundtable. Help start Act. Alan Gibbs Wife Jenny financial supporter of Act. All connections. I'm not saying that Gibbs Family shouldn't have Freedom of Choice, So also other people here in NZ and Actions of this Government's Behavior and Language towards People of our Country which are Employed through our Taxs and here to Serve the People Fairly, Responsible manner remembering All have Democratic right of Response

[@davidthomson692]

It’s the boys club. Which consists of some of the best arse lickers who have recently lost their job

[@TheMarathonomahos]

Jack doesn't seem to understand that people trash places. As a tradie, the number of places i have to do up is insane. It keeps me in work constantly.

[@lightroomforecast6582]

well, how lucky you are dork

[@effectuality6700]

I think Chris Bishop lacked the spine to say what needed to be said: people are responsible for their actions. If they continually destroy someone else's property, they may find themselves without a home to destroy - and they'll only have themselves to blame. There are plenty of people on the waiting list who aren't going to wreck the place.

[@tommcg7564]

Well done Jack ✅

[@colindyer5233]

If u trash a house or motel u do not deserve to be provided with housing!

[@logansilson6686]

I do wonder if it is a greater cost to society for these people to then end up on the streets though

[@multipolypotentialite]

you're aware that is how it works right? Even just declining an emergency housing offer or leaving on your own accord means you're not getting another chance - most EH tenants are well behaved

[@chrismckellar9350]

Here we ago again, more quick fix short term thinking and planning, low density, car based, planning and development with the 'back to 1950's'car based urban sprawl connected with 4 lane expressways mentality. It seems that we haven't learnt from past with the utter environment and urban mess of nearly 70 years of quick fix car based urban sprawl that Auckland is currently suffering from. Apply to this Christchurch, Hamilton, etc. Queenstown is rapidly becoming a environmental and urban mess. Why can't we spread population growth around the 13 regions that currently have rail connectivity with a potential population catchment of 80% of the country's population, that allows for frequent urban regional and inter-regional passenger rail that connects communities in these these regions.

[@glyniskevey7722]

A couple of years ago I listened to an interview with an ex high ranking official from what was then Housing NZ. He emphasised that the state can’t hope to provide enough housing for those in need of somewhere to live. He categorically stated that we need good private providers who are prepared to invest in rental properties. Whether we like it or not, they need an incentive to do this.

[@AilsaPehi]

Private owners bought houses and never lived or let them during National. At that time there were homeless, and over 50,000 on the waitlist. Today it's half of what they left, less involuntary homeless and homes that are purchased are being lived in. Whatever you heard didn't work. History shows us.

[@mattmaiden9596]

@@AilsaPehi You're incorrect. In 2017 there were approx 3 to 4 thousand on the waitlist .The latest figures in Dec/23 are 25 plus thousand.Just a bit of an increase don't you think?

[@peterlattimore6013]

@@mattmaiden9596 There will always be those on the left who enjoy drinking alcohol and taking drugs, instead of saving for their future... Then they complain decades later about the "Rich" owning rental properties. Admittedly values of houses and land values have gone through the roof with international investors buying via the $NZ PASO, while borrowing in a stronger currency... India for example had loan rates of 1% then they came to NZ and bought homes with a rental return of 5% The biggest problem we have is inequality between local lenders and international buyers.

[@KieraHafermalz-Wheeler]

There are lots on the right who do exactly the same thing, just they don't end up on statistics because they have lawyers to bail them out, try again ​@@peterlattimore6013

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@peterlattimore6013 The left will never understand that.They have no concept of economics or understanding.Look at the last government.Alot of people in NZ EXPECT , especially those on the lower end of the economic ladder, the state should provide them with a free home for life, paid for by the long suffering taxpayer.Pathetic.

[@grizzz6884]

@18.40 to get house prices back to 3x-5x wages , will see house prices dropping by 50% , or wages going up by 50% . this guy make's SHE look good

[@roberthooker4970]

If a minister makes an error . Will the minister be personally liable? Or the crown? ( leaky building- National Policy).

[@trihard3d]

I like Tame, but what a foolish line of questioning on the people who trash the houses they're given. Why should anyone think they'd continue to be given help if they actively destroy that help?

[@dave24-73]

So what happens if you have no friends or family, a lot of elderly especially single men could fall into that category.

[@patu5798]

They arnt the ones that are trashing housing

[@harmonyadams7577]

Not just men, women too. This government has no empathy.

[@jamesjenkins3276]

Pool your resources with others and rent or flat together.

[@dave24-73]

@@jamesjenkins3276with no money, how does one do that. They are going to be looking at cutting your benefit completely, and even if they give you the basic it’s like $150 a week. Don’t think that would cover the rent anywhere.

[@mikestray76]

Just do the most basic of housekeeping like any normal human being, )eg put the rubbish out once a week and don't throw faeces around the house, etc . Don't deliberately trash the accommodation you are given and you won't have to worry. We're supposed to be civilized human beings, anyone who can't abide by the most basic and simple standards should probably be housed in some sort of mental health facility.

[@josiecampbell7639]

I’m a tax payer, dont include me in your national party ideology Christopher. Where is my voice on this bullshit? Thank you Jack for asking the question, where will people go if they are not eligible for social or emergency housing? Staying with relatives is not good enough, couch surfing in other words. Aren’t there enough over crowded houses already causing serious health issues, rheumatic fever springs to mind effecting young children and adults which costs an already over burdened health system a fortune. Come and see for yourselves how the shortage of housing already impacts on families. You are suppose to be fixing the problem not making it worse, such incompetence.

[@AiriniSamuels]

Absolutely 👍Thanks for strongly worded statement. 💯

[@mikestray76]

It's called democracy. In other words majority rules. It's the best we've got amd is infinitely better than many other non Western countries in the world.

[@lucillemcroberts4060]

They've been in 5 minutes...nothing terrible has come out of them so far.

[@kiwi792]

I wonder what Jack’s solution is to people that trash the accommodation they are given for free by the Nz taxpayer? It’s kind of an unsolvable problem. But There has to be at the minimum expectation of a standard of behaviour if you are given taxpayer funded (free) accommodation. The EASIEST thing to do is not trash the place. It’s free, costs nothing other than acting live a civilised person. If you want to behave like an animal then maybe on the street is where you belong. When you are prepared to change then you should receive support. All very harsh but that’s kinda reality. People should be grateful they live in Nz where the government will help. Go to many other countries and you are literally completely on your own.

[@EamesBrulee]

Yus! Just don't trash it! There are a huge queue of people waiting for accommodation that will treasure the opportunity, not abusing it. Jack isn't being reasonable there.

[@julianhussenet7633]

Jacks not realistic. Let’s face it.

[@AccCam]

It's not just the trashing of the house too, they make their neighbours lives hell, with death threats, dead pets, smashed cars and windows, parties all nght and drug supplying issues etc

[@stephenlennon7369]

It's not free they pay rent aswell 😅 just at a cheaper rate

[@waynewright5571]

They are not free at all. They pay rent, not all at a reduced rate either, some pay the market rate.

[@greggiles7309]

Electorate Offices in Houses should be banned, because they can make massive claims on them.

[@Theodisc]

And because they take up a valuable house/home for some bottom feeder to trash.

[@roberthooker4970]

Good point. It should also have floor area size limit. 12 to 20 sq

[@AiriniSamuels]

Agree also I believe John Key also used house as a office.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@AiriniSamuels Good on him.

[@somchais2100]

And...so did Cindy!!!! OMG😮

[@adsdft585]

The minister has not talked about the aging population. How many more empty houses will be empty over the 30 years.

[@josiecampbell7639]

They are relying on the elderly to kick the bucket

[@davemonster2]

24:22 this government only takes advice if it backs and ignores all the rest so not transparent at all

[@W_Bin]

Great show. How much other excellent NZ content have I been missing out on?

[@markdev4796]

Working in the Tobacco lobby is 100% evidence of a disregard for the welfare of others, what madness put this individual anywhere near decisions on the welfare of others.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Then dont

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Then dont smoke.No one is forcing you to smoke.Your choice, not the government.Another nanny stater.

[@markdev4796]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Then why does the Tobacco industry spend millions every year convincing people to smoke, manipulate nictine content, challenge valid science and start court cases to shut down resistence. Shirley you a naive in the extreme, obviously you havnt spent time working in the health sector picking up the pieces for those that have been duped into smoking. As as for the nanny state the smoking industry is happy for us to pick up the cost of the fallout, thats as Nanny as it gets.

[@AiriniSamuels]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj Your making assumptions as usual regarding who is a smoker

[@maggigee6867]

I'd love to see Premiere house opened up for a family to use!

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Funded by who ?

[@adsdft585]

The projects are behind closed boards?

[@dwee3005]

Sure are and will be agreed upon before anyone can do or say anything about it. Basically MP's can just decide whatever they want and we know national and especially this new national government has a strong history of simply lying and not telling us the truth until it too late

[@guiliamo1]

So once again National returns to relying almost entirely on the private market. Well done NZ

[@glyniskevey7722]

We need both private and state

[@MrDaragom]

I hope that's not sarcastic.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@MrDaragom Its real.

[@guiliamo1]

@@glyniskevey7722 a housing crisis has never been solved via the private market, ever. Countries that have solved housing crises have all been major state interventions

[@petervaneeden3651]

It is easy stop excessive imigration and overseas ownership of property and allow tiny houses and self contained caravans onto sections/ land with existing dwelling thus increasing supply reducing rental cost. Do most people need a100 sqm house? Then familes can better support whanau. Rates in Canterbury are going crazy 18% 24% increases they think are acceptable. Holiday parks have already permanent resident areas, overseas they even have overseas secure accomodation pods like in Backpackers/hostels. Also freedom camping/vehicle parking spots with tables bbqs, showers and toilets which could be coin operated. By the way Jack this interview sounds more like a interrogation.

[@davemonster2]

I like in tokoroa and you go for a drive around here and there is so many cabins on properties. And go some should interrogate MPs on the regular. Its only recently has the media found its balls and started asking hard questions (Plus they should Seymore twerking in every news story)

[@josiecampbell7639]

Have you thought about being a politician, you have all the answers 😂

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@josiecampbell7639 Good idea.

[@AiriniSamuels]

Really this Government's short term actions has created uncertain so What will the Government's long term plan be and do they have a transition plan to long term.

[@tommcg7564]

The great interviews are interrogative in nature

[@barrygeary9362]

EASE REGULATE MAX RENTAL CHARGES OVER THAT THEY PAY HIGHER TAX LANDLORDS GETTING TWO GREEDY NO ONE NEEDS MORE THAN ONE HOME JUST GREED

[@harmonyadams7577]

"asking questions of people" and "do you have a place to stay? Have you any idea how much courage it takes to walk in to MSD to ask for help?? That's why people just go and live in their CARS !!!

[@mikestray76]

You can apply for social housing online. Regardless how else would you expect the housing to be provided. If you don't ask (register) then MSD won't know that you have need for social housing will they. They can't just magically conjure up lists of people who need a service. That's like saying I've got a medical problem that needs to be addressed but I need a doctor to know this by somehow reading my mind. Furthermore there are plenty of advocate services and different cultural or minority group services that can help and approach MSD for you initially. But at some stage you have to talk to them yourself. That's how the world works, things don't just magically appear on your plate without a little bit of effort

[@perryanderson9103]

Jack they can stay at your place

[@JohnDoe-wh8fk]

Or at TVNZ. I hear they can accommodate 60 odd people.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Yes Jack, you would like that.

[@tommcg7564]

PM house is free Luxon don’t live in it anyway and it’ll stop him further claiming $1000 a week

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@tommcg7564 l

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Yes Jack.You are paid enough.

[@adamevans7945]

National sells off all of the social housing, then years later says there’s not enough social housing and it’s a problem.

[@__Lachie]

I wish he would stop saying “the taxpayer won’t support them” when he means “my government won’t support them”

[@barrygeary9362]

HIGH PAYED POLITICIANS ARE WORST OFFENDERS

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Then you should become one ?

[@barrygeary9362]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj NO doughty u are one of them

[@barrygeary9362]

Don't forget National sold most of state houses in the past and now we are in this state

[@tpaine1815]

Yes, Mr Tame, aggressor interviewer - the bottom line is if someone trashes a place shouldn't not expect to get anymore help. Mr. Bishop is right. No circular argument. Get real - responsibility and accountability must be upheld given what every tax payer in New Zealand is funding. We are ALL paying for these people to chose to live in squalor and trash houses provided for them. WHERE is the fairness for all those families on the waiting list???? Aren't they worth it over those who screw things up. Tame - all you want is to argue, this is not an interviewing style that is helpful in bringing out information. It just demonstrates your arrogance and desire for self-righteous desire to gotcha a government Minister.

[@tommcg7564]

On one hand you’re defending a minister who is taking away from the poor and on the other defending families on the waiting list?

[@lightroomforecast6582]

and what do we contribute to your life ? punitive lonely one?

[@justinfarrow4803]

Emergency housing is load of Bullocks it was a way for motels to capitalise on peoples misery, the millions of dollars spent could/ should have gone to families who needed a house to get them into one either existing or new build have a government rent to buy scheme for them, set them up in a community, some sort of employment, kids in to school, and some sort of counciling, welfare check to help make sure those families have the support they need to live and make a good life for them and their families. They've just been dumped and forgotten and all on the tax payer dollar. Welcome to government introduced inflation.

[@user-hx6ry9iz8s]

Dont worry fella, we will be voting you out in 2026...

[@roberthooker4970]

Could the reduced revenue by increasing interest deductublity be better applied to increasing the accommodation supplement. It possible to see labour used to money to fund the 12 000 more public houses. So how will the new government maintain this building rate?

[@mikestray76]

Increasing the accommodation supplement is pretty much the same thing it just puts more money in the hands of landlords. He says in the long term he wants median house prices to be around 3.5 to 5 times the median household income. I think the median household income in NZ is around $120,000. So that would mean in the current situation (Yes I know it will be scaling up in the future but the relativity is the same.) that house prices in Auckland for example would need to have a median price of between $429,999 and $600,000. Current median is around the $1,000,000 mark. So does anyone truly think that house prices in Auckland at any time in the future are essentially going to go down by 50% ? Or is median household income going to double whilst house prices remain at todays levels? What a load of BS. Without drastic and far reaching government intervention, house prices (especially in Auckland where 70% of mass migration immigrants reside) will always keep going up. The date this may change is possibly after around 2046 which I think is the projected year that home ownership rate will dip below 50%.for the first time. Rate was around 75% back in the 80's and has steadily decreased to around 65% today. This means that in around 25 years time, renters will suddenly be a majority voting block which means the government will suddenly start to listen and make changes.

[@roberthooker4970]

@@mikestray76 well written. Just imagine if some quizzed him ' he say I disagree'

[@harmonyadams7577]

Expert Panel? Didn't National blast Labour for having "expert panels/consultants"? Is the tax payer paying for this?

[@ZaneLike]

No, Panels are part of Govt. They blasted them for setting them up like an out of control train and not doing anything with the results that came from those panels, so wasting money.

[@kiwi792]

Opposition parties continually talk about the environmental impact of policies/actions. Yet at the same time seem to be excusing antisocial behaviour/destroying of property. Deflecting responsibility from the individuals that are doing this. What is the environmental impact of this antisocial behaviour? If a person trashes or damages accommodation. Ultimately it needs to be repaired or at worst demolished. That sends waste to landfill and more carbon etc is used in having to re-build/fix the damage (All which could have been avoided). Not to mention the pressure it puts on the already stretched trades/building material supply chains. So instead of being able to focus on actually building new homes, time and money is having to be spent doing unnecessary repair work. There should therefore be universal outrage and intolerance of poor behaviour. People need to learn the basic principle of treating everything with respect whether it’s yours or someone else’s. That should be the messaging. No excuses for trashing property.

[@feesullivan3439]

Brilliant. So glad to have a new govt. the last 6 years were bloody awful

[@roberthooker4970]

Why in opposition did they did not clearly write the definition of their policy?

[@vinniebarbarino-1]

Next stop for people trashing their emergency housing is PRISON !!!!!!!!

[@chrismckellar9350]

We don't have enough prison officers to look after them. As per usual of this all talk no plans government, there is no plan how to address the shotage.

[@josiecampbell7639]

Tax payers pay for people in prison, didn’t you know this?

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@josiecampbell7639 - Gosh is that right. This all talk no plans government wants to save, so not extra prison officers, to give tax cuts to the wealthy and property investors.

[@multipolypotentialite]

$100,000.00 per year per prisoner - housing is cheaper you nonce

[@adsdft585]

Disappointed the minister was not full of targets.

[@eggiweggsi]

Just shows how badly Labour trashed our country.

[@tessaflatt7026]

“Anecdotal evidence”….Gaaaawd 🙄

[@ooo-vc4xl]

Its partly about having 30 years zoning available (this is needed to drive land prices down) but also having enough zoned land (& buildable infrastructure) right now available to address existing excess demand. I.e. We need to get on top of the excess demand that exists now. We cant wait 30 years for demand and supply to balance. Part of the solution is to reduce immigration to a sustainable level. Chris should know that the tax treatment is already biased towards property investment over other investments. National is just going to make it worse again.

[@MG-fr3tn]

National are expediant and shallow, so much more profit could be achived if we were more conversant with economics and less smug about disparity. Productivity isent just extraction and fire sales.its not over specked houses and monopolies. Its investment and husbandry, its effishancy. Its owning your currancy, being blunt about education.

[@DaParty3473]

And not a word about Te Tiriti

[@sunsetwalker2923]

Good

[@__5545]

Good 🙄

[@stephenlennon7369]

That not the subject today 😅

[@tommcg7564]

Do you think these foreign prostitutes to raise our constitutional founding document?

[@larrylewislarry]

Finally!

[@petervaneeden3651]

The fact is the taxpayer is funding $100 milions of accomodation allowance etc which becomes landlord profit. Surely a tiny house loan plan and portable housing plan help. They have container type insulated panel houses that just fold out from $35 k, the problem is people use any government change as a gravy trail for EXPERTS paid 6 figures and set up a top heavy structure. eg ECan wants to tax $2.4 billion more for fresh water change process, 3 Waters EXPERTS had a feast of millions.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

No government will fix the housing problem.

[@tommcg7564]

maybe stop letting in people like you - arrogant foreigners, the good ones can stay. Ones like you should be deported

[@brushandshovel6512]

These guys are way ahead of Labour. Labour should be ashamed

[@adsdft585]

The housing plan . Auckland has a 30 year plan in place. So we have another National Plan to improve things that already exists.

[@adsdft585]

Like reading, writing and maths. New minister acknowledged it was in place for an hour in most if not all schools already before the election.

[@user-yd6sj3pe4j]

Housing crisis is all over west world 3 levels of government responsibilities When we were growing up in Sri Lanka Housing minister build certain amount of houses & give it to needy free plus Houses pass it on Generations & generations .

[@roberthooker4970]

If they open greenfields! Pipies, train, bus, tolls etc?

[@brycenew]

‘I don’t want to give you a number…’ I stopped listening at that point. A hypocritical, politics above humanity, response. The govt have numbers for what they deem highly important. And expect the opposition to be empirical about everything. (Appreciate your work Jack)

[@roberthooker4970]

Evidence based policy? He could give an aim . Why ? Accountablitiy.

[@greybuckleton]

Do neither of these men know homeless shelters exist? If you trash every motel room the government pays for you, that is where you end up. Those are the consequences of your life choices.

[@maggigee6867]

Auckland is already overcrowded! You can tell this by the congestion on the roads!

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

Just tax cars then

[@roberthooker4970]

Yes. In the 1970s there business tax deduction for regional development. This period 2009 to 2023 you do not hear this idea.

[@roberthooker4970]

​@@ProfessionalBadPersonI guess the regionsl fuel tax did this. The funds were used for many transport needs.

[@maggigee6867]

@@ProfessionalBadPerson you mean like the regional fuel tax? And how about cheaper public transport? And more cycle ways and bus ways and all the things that encourage people out of cars?

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

I support those things@@maggigee6867

[@roberthooker4970]

I think house price growth slowed when interest deduction were reduced and the brightline test was expanded.

[@tommym6515]

Pretty decent interview with some hard questions and some good answers. Chris is coherent, logical and articulate as to what they envision. Good luck to him.

[@roberthooker4970]

Greens agree with road but alternatives must looked at. National and North Shore Pakurangs, Howick of Auckland. Car based suburbs. During the period 1950 to 1984 National was government for 28 of thoes years. Why did they not build a rail track from Howick to Otahuhu and Orewa to Takapuna with a tunnel or bridge to the city? If they had acted less problems now. ( funded from Auckland taxes). Even making track from Newmarket to New Lynn a double line was not started. It is evident from history.

[@timothycrooks9123]

You too can have your very own banana republic in just 100 days! send money to... Run, don't walk!

[@grizzz6884]

so he just said , the only money used to lobby with , should be based on the lowest wage in the country ,

[@mark561]

Jack can't seem to understand that eventually some people just run out of chances & the wider public couldn't care less where they go - prison, I imagine will be the ultimate social housing for them & good riddance. Everyone else plays by the rules & yet we keep making excuses for & giving far many chances to people totally unworthy. Enough is enough!

[@adsdft585]

The Green thinking is about balance.

[@jpscott126]

Better to be in social housing that the government pays for rather than buy your own, a free ride in life cheers govt.

[@Unknown-gi1uj]

Don't you think the expert panel should have engineering and building considerations, then a bunch of law professionals? Why have all these environmental considerations if the project would take to much time, to much manpower, to many resources? Look at these solar farms, they take up huge amounts of land, they require KMs of cables and there is no storage for the power it generations while the distribution network has hydro dams overflowing until they get coal generation prices. Its not just legal consideration you have to consider, you need to look at the bigger picture of the fundamental construction and engineering of the project and see if the proposal is even viable without taking up huge amounts of the countries resources, resulting in supply chain issues. And its not just things like not enough gib, or concert, but manpower and skilled professional, as you import 1000s of migrants for these projects, they need to be housed too.

[@merlenechambers575]

Unlock all the land banking previous Govts did. Previous Govts moved State House structures off land, then landbanked the land that those structures stood on. Fancy blaming the homeless for the situation they are in? 🤔

[@roberthooker4970]

He talked about zones set a side for public transport. Indicates!

[@turangatohiariki3042]

We gotta plane load of diffrent cultured people coming with extreme need's so we have to provide & house these needing assistance as their war torn & poor people coming in before the native Indigenous people's land's of the land that SHARED LAND'S SO DIFFRENT GROUP'S OF CULTURED PEOPLE CAN BE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY 👍🏽

[@MrTumblingmoth]

This government is heading down the right tracks. The prior government had no idea of what is involved to achieve growth, house builds, management of the economy etc and the change for the new crew is like the difference between night and day. They have their window which was enunciated prior to the election, the three parties came together and came up with a plan that resonates with many. To the left and the likes of Jack Tame this is a disaster in waiting. To this old timer the new broom is a breath of fresh air

[@shaunspazza3638]

Get rid of GST on food 🙄 the rest of living is hard enough even with a good salary 😏 That would be a good start National. Poverty is created because one can barely survive 💯

[@robynalexander8521]

I wish Jack let his guests finish their response - it is so annoying with his interruptions and no one can hear the answer. Needs a lesson in interviewing and listening 😕

[@lightroomforecast6582]

why watch it then....you moron!!!

[@adsdft585]

Why is government giving money to charities to grow charities assets? ( Land and houses)

[@mikestray76]

To provide social housing for those who need it. But he didn't say that was what is going to happen you should listen again.

[@kssinclair2931]

They can top and tail with young jack

[@imbtmn9836]

I don't give a shit where they go if they abuse the privilege.

[@roberthooker4970]

He is part of cabinet.

[@ooo-vc4xl]

If there were national policy statements and national environmental standards in place there would be no need for opaque process and potential pork barrel politics / corruption with Ministers making the final consent decisions. The Fast Track process is meant to speed up the process, not open NZ up to potentially significant environmental impacts. The panel also needs subject matter experts not just RMA experts. Otherwise, Chris is refreshingly open and honest.

[@andreatodd3095]

As a tax payer I don't support people who knowingly trash support accommodation.....just say it. Maybe their friends and relatives don't want their places trash either

[@user-br9rj5hc8n]

Who received the tobacco cheque

[@roberthooker4970]

If the population growth rate was restricted to natural birth rate plus say 10% immigration since 2009 would we have a housing issue?

[@mikestray76]

Yes. Because since the 80's, wage growth has flatlined in relative terms whilst the cost of everything else has continuously increased through inflation. (mainly)

[@MG-fr3tn]

The shortage of houses is the best earner .😂

[@user-xd2iv2hu9g]

Jack Tame should give these people who destroy motels his phone number so they can rent his spare room😂😂

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Exactly. Go to it Jack.

[@The.JZA.]

These people are doing a very hard job and all the press can do is poke holes in their policies. You come up with a better policy then 😂

[@lynnmichel2298]

They can come to your place Jack.

[@lightroomforecast6582]

who are they?

[@grizzz6884]

15.20 , the fact he has no info , and is in charge of the greatest wealth , in new zealand is a very big problem

[@roberthooker4970]

Tax empty homes? If this made these home able to lived in. Occupied. Lowers the shortage! If extra income to government . Government could build. So lets look at many was to do things. It could be temperory tax.

[@heathfairweather896]

Hey Chris we don't want more people in nz ! This is scary .. more people more problems ...schools at capacity ..hospitals at maximum capacity..roads a nightmare ! Stop bringing in more people.....if you want to make country wealthy go down other roads please. Gold oil gas tech anything export lead yes aquaculture.. ..but making city's land area bigger more houses more people no thanks

[@adsdft585]

Wind farms. Lots concents have been approved but not built yet. Why?

[@markdev4796]

@markdev4796 0 seconds ago They are consents sought to prevent others from deploying renewables in the area. The big Gentailers don't want more capacity as it creates more competition in the wholesale market and erodes their ability to bump prices up.

[@Nicole.1828]

Yes there are renewable energy consents already granted they will be built when there is demand on the grid for them.

[@mcgruff3309]

Every year 1 wind turbine uses 300 litres of oil to lube the gears! Green my ass!