What Controller Should I Get For My E Bike 2024??! (B1 Test 1)

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Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro Fardriver VS Fardriver VS Kelly
00:40 Best Controller In 2024
00:52 Kelly Controller Eliminated
01:11 Running Both Controllers Fair
01:29 The Controller Comparison List
03:11 B1, FW-11, Kunray My1020, KR5V Motor Test Comparison
03:59 Fardriver 72450 Talk
04:35 Install
05:20 Battery Efficiency( Milage)
06:03 Motor Smoothness
06:35 Throttle Response Feel
08:53 Field Weakening
10:00 Power / Torque
11:12 Tuning Auto Learn
13:06 Pros Cons
15:27 Over All Opinion
17:10 Beauties Of Electric Bikes
17:50 Understand What Your Long Term Goals May Be
19:50 Top Speed Fardriver Flipsky
20:21 Full Over View On Resalts Fardriver 72450 VS Flipsky 75200PRO VS Kelly KLSN200 Field Weakening
20:50 Install Resalts
21:06 Auto Learn Resalts
21:32 Tuning Resalts
21:56 User Friendly Resalts
22:17 Throttle Response Resalts
22:34 Over All Feel Resalts
23:00 Torque & Power Resalts
23:18 Top Speed Resalts
23:44 Battery Efficiency( Miles) Resalts
24:42 Everything In General
25:18 Your Personal Preference Hope It Helps NOT KELLY
25:52 Amps Specs For Test Close Comparison
27:14 Outro Thanks
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[@Michael_2211]

Wtf!! I thought I was watching a dude with Atleast 100k subs… definitely giving you a sub. (You deserve way more). Keep up the good work!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Dude that means so much to me, thank you so much I really am trying I hope to get there someday putting a lot of effort into help the community the most that I can!! Appreciate you

[@legenderekonwheels]

Congratulations @Cole !!! 🎉 Tomorrow you will have hit 1000 subscribers!!!👏

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@legenderekonwheels appreciate it! Pretty stoked for sure! Appreciate y'all

[@TomTom-gx1sm]

Nice man. I spent quite some money in a road legal Talaria MX4, but I wanted to learn, hehe. I now realized I spent too much but hey, those things are fun :)

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Those are a great unit, they have pros and cons to each set up in my opinion I definitely hope to get one of those or something like it down the road too man That's awesome you have one! Electric is fun!

[@acelyasamsan6960]

Have to mention one thing about the VESCs like flipsky. You can pull any data from the comm port like speed, trip, odometer, ah charged, discharged, watts used, voltage,motor temp, vesc temp etc so many data that you can use in a potential screen. You can even set your own profiles lets say you've got a specific speed and specific acceleration curve, put that into profile 1 and save it. You can create couple of profiles like that and send them to flipsky controller using a touch screen on the fly and switch the modes. Down side is, someone has to do all the coding, design a pcb, find a suitable screen, design a case and mount, make it nice and waterproof etc :)

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I know I keep waiting for them to come up with her and display their working on I know Jordan did one that was basically just a mini China smartphone but I agree good stuff for sure

[@chargedup6565]

You can get the more rpm with Vesc over fardriver, on our tronic 750 vs fardriver 961600 we are actually getting more rpm on a qs hub with the tronic, but I don’t recommend any field weakening on a unbanded surface mount magnet

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

☝️💪 your the man bro!

[@a.n.d.ae.v961]

Which pin in the board of controller for single line digital speedometer? Because I can't find the light blue wire on my controller, And the wiring color is very different with your controller. i think the manufacture of my ev motor has changed it.

[@Vmaxfodder]

I have 2 fardriver nd84530s 2, 24s 16p packs 40kw . On my footscooter. Pretty happy with it !

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

God dang!! Right on thanks for the comment! I really like fardriver to It was hard to do a comparison

[@Vmaxfodder]

@Razorcrew_Cole you had a comprehensive video man , thanks . It doesn't look like Shydriver has a lot of choice when it comes to 84v 100.8v top charge? But smaller size is king on foot scooters ! My junction box/ controller look like a ratnest of a mess ! 😐

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@Vmaxfodder hell ya thanks .. ya for sure Flipsky is VESK and they are huge as well but its personal preference i think thats why i tried to do this video. ya I hate Junction box look for sure! Maker sure its rated for the amps they like to start on fire

[@cazbiejohnson8572]

Dope vid man

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Thanks I really appreciate it, I put a lot of time into it and hopefully it helps people get a good opinion of what route to go!

[@cazbiejohnson8572]

@@Razorcrew_Cole ya I have the flipsky 75200 pro v2 and this gives me a good idea of what I can do with it

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@cazbiejohnson8572 Right on, I'm going to make adapter wire harnesses I'm working on so I can have stuff plug and play to it more from EMF and then I'll start to understand them better too and try to get more tuning videos and all that good stuff to get its potential figured out!

[@cazbiejohnson8572]

@@Razorcrew_Cole heck ya

[@chesteryao]

Im still learning but I use a flipsky 75200 pro v2 with a 72v battery qs 205 50h 5T motor. Its fast and pulls hard but at 25-43mph I feel a small vibration but after 43mph no vibration. I think its my tuning issue. I don't know what to do but, the only way to get rid of the vibration throughout is adding field weakening. Im not sure if that is right. It makes a slight difference only. It feels like magnetic field throughout the frame/seat.

[@chesteryao]

Im using FOC mode hall sensors erpm 2500, sensorless erpm 25. I have not mess with any other settings from the wizard configuration. Besides field weakening up to 30A to smooth out the vibration. 120 motor current and 100 battery current. I have a 20s4p p45b molicel 180A continuous.

[@chesteryao]

I had done 180a motor current and even with torque arms installed I felt the rear axle moved and it tightened my chain, I couldn't pedal so I limped home, fixed it. Have not tried it again. But I want to the power feels great. Just need some fixing.

[@chesteryao]

Im not looking for top speed. 45mph is fast enough for me. But adding field weakening to soften the vibration makes the bike too fast now. I just want to run it without.

[@chesteryao]

Forgot to mention its a 5000w nominal motor, maybe Im giving too much battery current 100A? I had lower it to 50a battery current and notice a difference the vibration was barely noticeable. At 80V 100A I notice it was pushing 8000w. I assume the motor is the limiting advantage?

[@ColeStempihar]

Best controller and throttle to buy with stock b1 motor and the b1 72v 30 ah battery?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I mean the video answers the question?? Amorge is my battery manufacturer all put B1 batteries on my website from them

[@jongraham4118]

Hey off subject. I’m new to this and just purchased a bomb moto b2. What flipsky and or far driver controller do I need to be looking at I purchased their b2 battery as well using the stock motor as well.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

flipsky 752000 and flipsky72450 is what I did in the videos. there is larger models to get of them also meaning like more amp output. I'm jealous!

[@Coleyridesandrestores-hr9qy]

sick vid

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Hey man I really appreciate that makes it more worth it to do these!!

[@Coleyridesandrestores-hr9qy]

@@Razorcrew_Cole anytime

[@masteroogway5154]

Do you guys ship to australia im trying to get a new throttle for my vevor controller if not do you know of any alternatives, could I buy a normal surron throttle and change connectors?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

The shipping is just crazy to get it over there, yeah I'm just wiring it personally it's a new plugs to plug in. Have videos kind of showing what I'm doing if you go to my favorites go to collections on TikTok there's stuff in there

[@EduardoLujanvideografo]

i bought a kelly because of you :( lol. im triying to build another drift trike i think i might get the flipsky, so small!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Hahaha trust me I have like over 10 of them in my garage that I'm like dang 😆 .. But yeah I got to keep you guys up to date with what is out there! I still will always love my Kelly KLSNs But they're just falling behind with the times unfortunately. So many different options now it's crazy new controllers all the time

[@guysgt5003]

If you havnt figured out by now this dude makes shit up as he goes. He is a follower and follows what the other guys do and just copies it. No actually electric bike engineering or thought.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@guysgt5003 lol you don't know who I am do you 😂 I've been building razors for over 5 years buddy worked with the owner of electric &co before they were a company. I love people like you who know nothing about how this stuff works. I've ran Kelly KLSN you can tune it to save your life if you wanted to. I literally answer questions about 10 to 20 a day on TikTok so I don't know if I'm just making s*** up up there's hundreds of kids that thank only me for helping them get their razor going 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤷 actually the V2 EC4P you can thank me for also. Helped work on that with them before we split

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@guysgt5003 makes s*** up as I go? I mean you can tell this video I have over 60 hours in editing and months in testing to get these opinions. I mean you got to be a special ed trying to guy to comment this 😂😂😂😂 🤡 I'm guessing you buy plug and play sets and eventually you'll be buying it for my website cuz I'm the cheapest best there will be ask my followers on TikTok

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@guysgt5003 and I hate to break it to you but I've had my channels going longer than any of the ones that you think I'm just copying? I give props to people I work with in the scene that we talk back and forth between controllers to get these results. Go look My TikTok's been here before anyone was building razors YOU WON'T REPLY 🐈😺

[@mrroast420]

i have a question.. i want to buy a bomb moto and all i think i need to get are battery and chassis and the lonestar b1 kit. is that everything i need? do i need to buy mounts or does it come with it. and what about the harnest

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@mrroast420 I mean there's a few routes to go they are kind of overpricing in my opinion, we sell throttles to that far driver controller you're looking at in their set plug and play along with adapter harnesses and batteries as well and we sell the mounts otherwise EMX Brandon is selling plug and play sets same as lone Star if not better but probably cheaper.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Charged up sells flipskys as well

[@ShalomHandler]

What type of fardriver should I get for a 52v battery but I might upgrade to 76v later on

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I would do what I'm comparing here the 72450. That's meaning like 200 line amp comparing with like the 75200pro flipsky or a Kelly

[@ShalomHandler]

@@Razorcrew_Cole thx

[@ShalomHandler]

Im on a budget and i was thinking to get the flipsky bc its cheaper do you think thats a good option or the fardriver is worth the extra $80 Bc i can find a fardriver for under 220 and i am new to this

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@ShalomHandler He's going to turn I mean far driver you can find for $150 - $200 The flip sky that $150-200 as well if you just look it from the manufacturer I sell a lot of plug and play stuff to them flips sky not as much yet. We just released B1 batteries on EMF as well

[@ShalomHandler]

Do I get the ND or NS and I can’t seem to find a place to get the controllers under $200

[@dgenbraking]

wish you lived in florida. I have the kr5v already but no battery 😅 idk why they picked me

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

You're kidding me! Does it fit in the swing arm they are saying that the ones they sent out don't fit lol

[@dgenbraking]

@Razorcrew_Cole I have the midwest mini mods arm and it fits like a glove. I'm in the modified razors for adults group

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@dgenbraking Right on, interesting they keep saying it doesn't fit and they're making changes for the mounting holes 🤷 yeah I don't have Facebook I just don't have time to be on there ever so don't have it I know a lot of people doing a lot of good stuff on there

[@davihazel3653]

Do the flipsky controllers offer pas for ebikes?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I'm sorry I do not understand what you mean?

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Maybe you could check out my battery video at the top of my page helps teach about the battery I'm sending what the controller wants to

[@chargedup6565]

Sadly they do not, im sure you could but not a simple plug and play way like the controllers that come with pas sensors

[@davihazel3653]

@chargedup6565 thank you for the info, I really wanted to upgrade my dual controller ebike to the dual flipsky but without having the pas option I'm gonna pass for now. Hopefully something comes along.

[@davihazel3653]

@@Razorcrew_Cole sorry I meant pedal assist.

[@ericmoore5035]

For science cole! should compare e and c little bit controller! To the rest.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I would but it's honestly just a flip sky it connects to the same exact app just more limited in my opinion I just would never waste any money on his products He's the reason I actually started EMF and do what I do! Last time I just bought his e&c 1020 motor It just open it and show everyone it's the same as Vevor Coming from same manufacturer actually runs the lowest watts of all motors too I don't know what he did.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

Got me laughing at the for science comment though 😆😂 🤙👌

[@ericmoore5035]

@@Razorcrew_Cole Well then ill be excited to see the tuning for the flipsky! I love efficiency. Rather have longer range. I have bought the little bit controller for my First build. But I’m planing a second build and looking at all options this time around. I really want the b1 but they’re hard to get atm. I think i would more enjoy the 12/14 platform i think it would be best of both worlds not to big not to small.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@ericmoore5035 Yeah I think the little bits probably still a good controller I'm just not a supportier of the owner of electro&co because of what I know behind the scenes And people reaching out with issues on TikTok. Maybe you will have to do a good comparison lol The B1 they are doing some heavy upgrades to right now Just talked with them actually very recently super excited about the new drop hoping within a month They will drop it, same B1 more upgrades to make it better!!! Such an amazing company I am probably going to be selling bikes to get more because of how fun they are off road! B2 Coming into works few leaks but I need to do a video from my version which is like the very first one from before they were released and all the changes they've done from feedback from me and others to what they will be selling now. Number 35 chain, 1,000 lb shock, few other little things on this one is going to really finalize it to be ultimate!

[@ericmoore5035]

@@Razorcrew_Cole think you will sell any batteries that would fit in the b1?

[@tommythunder9491]

🤜🏻⛈️🤛🏻🤘🏻😎🫡

[@audiwankenobi361]

I have a Amyet V9-G60 48v ebike. How should I go about switching the controller because my on throttle speed is stuck at 27mph GPS and it's surging a little at wot....no amount of playing with the settings has helped.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

I'm not sure I haven't been familiar with those typically your battery has to be able to put out enough amp output we're using higher amp output batteries to get some major power. But our power train were typically building from buying the battery, motor, and controller and then programming them all together accordingly to what specs they are capable of. Sounds complicated but it's really not terrible once you start going down the rabbit hole on KZbin and stuff

[@audiwankenobi361]

@Razorcrew_Cole I'm definitely finna jump down the rabbit hole because I need at least 30mph on throttle from this particular bike...thanks man!

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@@audiwankenobi361 Right on depending on what motor is on that bike sometimes we use field weakening to spend some more RPM at higher speeds to get a little more top speed.

[@jimmorrison3830]

What's a controller

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

A controller..? If you're like incredibly new to e-bikes I guess maybe you don't know, this is the brains of any bike. This is what pause power out of the battery when we twist the throttle and converge power into more power throwing phase amperage at the motor depending on what tuning and setting we have put in. This is how we take full control of e-bikes any e-bike that I do not have my personal controllers I can connect to in I would never run.surons Talaria every e-bike you see has a controller

[@jimmorrison3830]

@@Razorcrew_Cole Thank you for taking the time to write that.

[@Razorcrew_Cole]

@jimmorrison3830 I'm here answering questions for everyone constantly on tiktok mainly no problem

[@Samjitsuu]

Are we talking about flip sky 75200 pro v2 or just the pro model? Is the difference just the fact that they offer key switch?

[@joelociraptor]

Pretty sure Cole’s running the pro v2.

[@chargedup6565]

Cole is running the v1, the v2 also has phase filters

[@joelociraptor]

lol my bad don’t listen to me