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Chapters
00:00 - Still Not Sure If ROG ALLY Will Become Real
03:06 - 2x Perf at 35w Is Kind Of Nonsense
05:00 - 1.5x Perf at 15w Versus Steam Deck Makes More Sense
05:50 - Valve CHOSE 800p For a Number of Reasons
07:00 - The 1080p120 Panel Will Eat Up A Lot of Performance Gains
08:04 - ALLY Command Center
09:04 - There are TWO Benefits to a 120hz Panel
09:45 - Exceedingly FEW Modern Games Will Run At 1080p120 or even 800p120
12:10 - VRR? Can We Hack In VRR?
12:50 - If It's MIPI, Is It Portrait or Landscape?
14:46 - Didn't See Any Rumble Motors
15:22 - What Type of Controller Is Initialized? Is There Gyro?
16:00 - PC Gaming Handhelds Want The Oppostie of Hardcore PC Gaming
#SteamDeck #AMD #PCGamingHandheld

[@ThePhawx]

Just going to address comments in a pinned post instead of replying to people individually - I've always recommended the 800p version of the AYANEO2 - 1080p and 1600p aren't ideal for 6800U and I do run sub resolutions often. But 720p on Win4 looks way better than 800p on WM2 - the reality is that only hardcore people like us here are buying Chinese handhelds and we can assist people with how to run things and set expectations. - If you go to the GPD Discord and put my name in the search field and then also "800p" You'll see all of my receipts where I've been saying 6800U is best at 800p. I haven't changed my stance - The reason I am addressing 1080p120 is that it's absurd in two directions. There are going to be exceedingly few modern AAA games that will run at 1080p120. Let alone using massive sub resolutions. Also in the first three minutes of this video, I am openly declaring that I'm very happy this device is coming to market and more competition is best for all of us. But I DO expect more out of Asus if they are going to make a handheld and just make a device with "Big number = better" Also my open questions about the device aren't good or bad. They are just questions I wish Asus would have answered rather than marketing numbers stuff. I know the title and thumbnail are sensational. The context of what I'm actually saying is how I feel.

[@McKuc]

I agree with you. I stick to my Steam Deck until SD 2 comes out. F**k the rest 😂

[@Heldermaior]

Linus slipped up and said that the cpu inside is Zen 4. The 6800u is Zen 3. This device has likely a 7040 APU. That has Zen 4 and RDNA 3+ (4nm process node). That will give about 2TFlops of power at 15w. And about 5 at 35w. They will not sell if for 800 in a million years though. This will be 1k+ device.

[@168original7]

@@Heldermaior sounds like it’s a bit weaker than the rumoured switch 2 when at 15 watts but stronger than it when at 35 watts.

[@Heldermaior]

@@168original7 no. The rumoured switch 2 using Turing architecture is impossible. At 15w it would be worse than a steam deck.

[@168original7]

@@Heldermaior I doubt it, arm chips are a bit thurther ahead in the graphics and battery department than x64 integrated graphics due to the constant need for moar performance every year in phones. There is no real driving force in terms of laptop igpus. For the most part I can see a switch 2 being more powerful than a deck. In 2024 they wouldn’t even be selling at a loss if they do that.

[@bipinrajkotia4733]

that transaction with thumbnails was pretty good

[@timtimsh8766]

Very very😮

[@JamAncheta]

Maaan, you should be the one who tested/reviewed the demo unit first. Your inputs and experience will DEFINITELY HELP ASUS.

[@bulletpunch9317]

Yeah dave2d is just trash.

[@ThePhawx]

I appreciate that man!

[@lodoss118]

You solely deserve to have one in ur hands right now

[@Kevin-du5vf]

Yea it will definitely help Asus realize they're in over their head lol.. dave2ds video felt like the rep was literally inside his pants twisting his nuts. Love u phawx keep it up.

[@LatinLegacyNY]

He doesn’t anywhere close to the reach those two channels have so he wasn’t going to get one for that very reason.

[@billybobthorton2026]

Why is it that, Steam Deck owners seem so adamant about wanting competition in the space, but when it finally comes, so reluctant to admit the competition could be better? It's one thing to be skeptical of a manufacturers claims (I am in this case), but another to wholly reject any advancements in specs. Edit: I am not refering to anyone in or around this video, like the comments, it's just something I have noticed, in other conversations about such devices on the internet.

[@DoubleDragon5180]

Thank you! I’m not the only one that seeing this as well. It’s absolutely annoying to read to be honest.

[@rushmore3927]

With all the features, new hardware and Best Buy as a middleman, no way this is less than $900. Added: Their survey seems non sequitur, since needs the price to gage actual interest. Silly stuff.

[@RayenIDK]

is no one gonna talk about how cool is it when hovering over the video on your recommended it just smoothly transitions from the thumbnail to the first few seconds of the video

[@lightningfarronxp8899]

To me price differences aside, it feels like the steam deck was more thought out. As opposed to just out-specing the competition, valve meticulously though of what logically makes sense for handheld PC gaming and focused on making sure what was included in the steam deck actually had practicality to the everyday consumer. The Ally feels like Asus said "just out spec them. They have 800p? We have 1080p. They have 60hz? We have 120hz". They didn't stop and think how practical these features are to handhelds or whether the end users everyday experience would be meaningfully improved by these features. The fact that they didn't even think to put a track pad of some kind on the device to make navigating windows easier speaks volumes of how important meaningful user end experience is to them.

[@M_CFV]

Yeah I think anybody would've preferred trackpads over a 120hz screen, 120hz isn't even that good unless it's a stable 120fps (good luck on modern games) or you have VRR (which I guarantee this doesn't have)

[@THUGPUTIN]

Valve needs to mass produce steamdeck globally...

[@terribletimes902]

With 50% better performance why wouldn’t it be able to hit 120 fps on games that were already running 90 fps unlocked on Steam Deck?

[@funnyduck4568]

@@M_CFVplenty of games will run at 120hz just fine like indie games like hollow knight. And I know I would be willing to trade my steam deck for one of these because yes I love my deck but the upgrades here would be worth the sacrifice. The only reason I wouldn’t is the price

[@10litu]

@@M_CFV I believe it was mentioned in LTT video that it does have VRR. Don't take it as 100%, my memory is kinda crappy.

[@andrewmcgrane3308]

when i saw daves vid talking about the specs i found myself thinking none of this means much until the phawx does a deep dive, king of handhelds. Thank YOU for your time

[@trakaiszeks]

So, the screen will be landscape. How do I know? They're using 16:9 1080p 7" screen. Coincidentally GPD is building a win mini with 16:9 1080p 7" landscape screen. Back when gpd pocket lineup released, there were no 16:9 1080p 7" screens, so there has been a new panel made, which is not a native tablet panel, and potentially actually manufactured for these devices.

[@jonathanoxlade4252]

1080p back then for pc was why it's called master race lol don't bash it Back then consoles were like 480p I think pc was closer to 1080p so yea pc had 1080i back in 2005 was when 1080p officially kicked off but yea pc was still the master race back in 2001 funny right 1080i was still decent back then but 1080p was superior now we have 1440p 1660p 2k 3k 4k 5k 8k 12k 18k lol but very far from running a game at 4k 120fps let alone 480hz lol

[@chyj]

Jonathan are you high ?

[@MrQwertypoiuyty]

You're concluding without using the device itself. Plus all of those Chinese made handhelds also have poor battery life at 60hz. And maybe the custom AMD APU in the Ally is more efficient, you'll never know. I for one am happy to have a 120hz panel, even if the battery life is even a bit lower than Steam Deck. Finally, I can play 120hz on old triple A games I bought on sale which I haven't played.

[@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings]

The battery life would be literally half what it would have been at 60hz..

[@WalkWhenNecessary]

Really appreciate videos like this and all the work you do. Thank you.

[@phased3941]

Gotta admit the transition from thumbnail to video with satafying on mobile lol, props

[@Arcade1983]

Phawx, this is a great explanation of what's going on with this device. I was wondering if you've ever thought about making a tutorial for making older DX8-DX9 games work with portrait displays. I know I have working pretty well on my Win Max AMD4800, which is my go to device as it's the only one of these handhelds that has an ethernet port.

[@hugevibez]

Is it very involved to get DX8-9 games to work with a portrait display? Haven't found the time to look it up, but it has made me weary to pick up a device with such a display.

[@Arcade1983]

@@hugevibez I feel like the answer to that question is very subjective. I don’t think it’s all that complicated, but someone else might feel very differently.

[@baldsealion]

@@hugevibez the steam deck is a portrait display and no it’s really not complicated. Buy and use lossless scaling. $5 app solves all kinds of old game display problems. Run the game in a window and toggle it on, or set a profile setting for that exe

[@MarkTheMagnificent]

HAHA bro that thumbnail to video transition. Smooth as eggs. I love it.

[@VexX_069]

Dude, you’re experience and knowledge is priceless, loved every bit of this video. Subbed!!

[@MisterAndreSafari]

You are the jedi of tech oppinions. 🙏 other youtubers are doing feature-videos with new tech - and bringing hype. You are doing „show-it-to-the-master“ videos - and bringing real information. Love your content!!

[@mrhow2712]

I always come to this channel first When it comes to handhelds. amazing info man thanks!

[@SoumyadeepChanda]

Thanks Mr. Phawx. As we are seeing rise of a new hardware segment, it's important that we have folks like you who analyze and help us consumers make fact based buying decisions.

[@WhyplayGaming]

Loved intro transition by the way

[@ukaszfrankowski4205]

Tell me please. Example: in witcher3 the same graphic settings on SD (800p)and asus (1080p) what platform will have more fps?

[@corncorny5963]

the opening shot matching the thumbnail kinda blew my mind ngl

[@seethruhead7119]

I really want something like this with some slight tweaks: Good: eGPU support, 120hz, VRR, Performance To improve: Design (ugly), proprietary PCIE expansion, controls.

[@a1batross_]

It needs trackpads as well. Trackpads as a fallback to mouse work better in all games than thumbsticks. And trackpads actually better for me in shooters than thumbsticks.

[@mix7893]

Not having a full 2280 M.2 slot, as well as at least one usb type A port, SOME form of mouse input, be it a trackpad or optical sensor or whatever, was a huge missed opportunity here. Also hoping we see at least the ability to upgrade the joysticks to hall effect down the road. Other than that, ergonomics seem fine to me

[@Unicornpirate]

The Ally has eGPU support. It works with Asus XG mobile

[@mix7893]

@@Unicornpirate That's why he put it under "To improve." Only being able to use their proprietary expansion means we're stuck with whatever Asus wants to charge. (XG mobile 4090 is $1500 btw)

[@OC.TINYYY]

No, I want them to keep their own egpu support. It supports 8x 4.0 lanes directly instead of 4x 3.0 lanes via just type c. Much better GPU performance.

[@terribletimes902]

I think Destiny 2 could run at 90 fps at 18-22W. Currently, running it unlocked on a WinDeck will get like 80fps highs and 45fps lows. 50% better than that will already get you close to a stable 90 at 15W, then you could just push a bit more power to get over the finish line. As for 120Hz, I see no reason why esports titles like Overwatch 2 and CS 2 won’t be able to hit it below 20W.

[@siggy5687]

Rocket league as well. I just can’t competitively play with 60hz on my steam deck and I look forward to any device looking to improve on that.

[@Blank_Astrophel]

I'm not concerned about battery life since I'm planning to use the accessory that the steam deck has, called the deck mate in which you can attach a portable 45w or higher power bank to the back of the device to increase your play time and it really won't interfere with your Grip or hand placement, which brings me to my question..........can the deck mate work on the Asus Rog Ally? I'd really appreciate a answer from anyone lol

[@MH-mi4xg]

So we just not going to mention how f****** smooth the thumbnail to video transition was. God damn smooth

[@MukiMuki688]

the tactile feel of the inputs are the most important, no one has ever gotten that as perfect as the japanese.

[@MrNeonx]

That thumbnail transition was so smooth.

[@doolittle_]

I really like these "off the cuff" videos, with the laughing and the odd expressions. "Whole other bag of nuts" hahah

[@PANCHO15108]

Thanks for the info Phawx. Keep up the great work.

[@tom611]

With the potential power draw, I could see these being sold in stores right next to Best Buy's store brand 'Insignia' power banks to help the margins. PCs don't make a lot of money for places like Best Buy, but you're more likely to come in to get some nice higher-margin accessories (or software back, like in the day when I found out about this) from that store. A lot of the power stuff I have for my Steam Deck is actually from Best Buy, so It shouldn't be to hard of an up-sale.

[@bmwofboganville456]

The excess performance of this Asus thing over the Steam Deck will be eaten up by feeding the extra resolution

[@Zontar82]

it's not difficult to put a super powerful cpu onm a portable device nowadays, problem is cooling it correctly. i had all gpd win up to 3, they all got super hot in no time, in the end only the deck was designed to avoid all that

[@matthewzz1997]

Great video! As a handheld normie, I learned so much about handhelds and you explained it all very well.

[@nickentros]

That’s a fun transition from the thumbnail

[@yassertechtips5568]

best think that could ever happen to handheld devices is the introduction of gddr5 or gddr6 unified memory , the problem with igpus is the use on slow high latency system memory , increasing the frequency and CUs on an igpu won't increase performace is you memory bandwith can't saturate those cores.

[@johnsducks9816]

It does have pc game pass advertised for it, so it should be safe to assume the controller built in is xinput

[@loganclark4146]

i like the fact that ur thumbnail is the beginning of the video lol

[@robs8973]

Really liked that the intro matched the thumbnail!

[@JC7119]

You're not wrong and this isn't a rant. I follow you because you give all the information. Speaking of new devices what do you think is happening with the Loki Max?

[@siraxification]

I saw this handheld pop up while I'm waiting for my gpd win 4 to arrive. I was worried I'd made the wrong choice. But it seems I need not worry. Thanks Phawx!

[@Alexrg12345]

Love the transition from the thumbnail to the start of the video lol

[@PatrickHatTrickGaming]

Really glad to see this video from you. I felt like I was taking crazy pills while watching the LTT video. People have been saying FOREVER that they want a Switch or Steam Deck with a 1080p screen... but I've always felt that it just doesn't make sense. 720/800p is simply the *correct* choice in my eyes, as far as tradeoff between visual fidelity and performance. I also had the impression that ASUS was just looking to "one-up" Valve, by running down a series of tech specs and being one-step better. Which doesn't necessarily lead to a better device - there's very good reasons why both Valve and Nintendo made that decision, after all! Having said that, I'm really happy to see another big player enter the space. Goes to show that the handheld PC market has a bright future, and lots of people are taking notice.

[@softwarelivre2389]

Nintendo made that decision years ago, they just didn't make a revision for a LONG while. You're correct about the Deck, tho

[@Renbits]

that thumbnail to video was smoothhhhhhhh

[@GAz0Line]

Thank you sir 😍😍😍 for this explanation, I just bought the gpd win4 and the aya neo 2 and I was a little bit down when I saw the asus now Iam all good I know it wasn’t a bad choice buying both

[@marvin8291]

I wanted to like the Steam Deck to be honest but there are two simple reasons I can not use it and thats why I sold it after one month: 1. I got pain in my hands after several minutes holding it every time I wanted to play with it. 2. The fan noise. Im not a retro gamer so I always had this thing at high fan level. From what I've seen so far I really like the ASUS ROG ALLY except that you need to buy their gpu if you want to plug in a 4090 for example. However I really like the competition and I wonder where this stuff goes in a few years. Theres one more benefit of the 120hz display. It just looks better/smoother just like when i compare my 144hz monitor to my 60hz tv...

[@nagi-springfield93]

20db vs 36db steam deck is better deal than the performance

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

This thing is gonna hurt your hands more than a steam deck. I can't imagine how a steam deck hurt you, for me it's a totally relaxed hand position.

[@acutelilmint8035]

That’s too bad, you could always wear AirPods or noise cancelling lol I do that, but if u need a stronger device then it’s all good. But isn’t ayeno already good> just expensive

[@acutelilmint8035]

@@cheeeeezewizzz I’m a weak girl, it doesn’t hurt my hands, but I do get fatigue lol so I just prop it on a stand or next to a wall while lying down.

[@TheMahayanist]

I've never heard the fan ever playing my steam deck. I don't know where this criticism comes from. If you're in pain, definitely sell it.

[@FoxbatStargazer]

Are there portrait 16:9 displays? It would be nice to know for sure, but seems super unlikely.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

No. But there are portrait 9:16 displays.

[@Losiago]

That was nicest intro I’ve seen in a while

[@yllwboy1123]

This was an excellent video! Thanks for explaining this!

[@Cathexis256]

I really like how the first frame in the video is the same as the thumbnail.

[@TK-lj4oq]

Hey Phawx, just watched your video thanks for the full speel. Question: I've been looking for a handheld strictly for emulation, but on the higher end of things. I want to play CEMU, DOLPHIN, PSX, PS2, PSP.... But upscaled to look more modern, and also wanting something with battery life to last me a 4-6 hour plane ride. Im not interested in using a handheld for any AAA gaming, I have a nice PC for this stuff. So...for someone like me looking for the best money can buy strictly for emulation purposes....what do you think about this device or would you recommend something else already out? my research tells me the devices using the 6800U chips are not quite good enough for me, and I should wait for the new chips since they will offer better power management/battery life, as well as an increase in overall performance...

[@ThePhawx]

So the ALLY will be great for Emulation. The Zen4 side of the CPUs are insanely powerful and that's not even counting that they have AVX512 enabled. Which means we should also get a significant boost for RPCS3 as well

[@zergslayer69]

Having charging on planes is more common these days so I wouldn't worry too much about that part. And if they don't, the flight probably isn't terribly long.

[@hmr0]

Thank you for this video Phawx, you somehow made a more informative than the 2 hands on videos out there!

[@jturh]

Great points Phawx! I was honestly surprised you weren't one of their go-to guys with how amazing your steam deck coverage was, but after watching LTT and D2D's videos I think they were hoping for some initial fluff pieces.

[@maxducoudray]

I think subscriber count may have driven their choice of who got to do previews. 😜

[@dramaticmudderer5208]

@@Edinburgh1000 ?

[@AdioAurel]

Since I'm very impressed by what ASUS achieved with their ROG Flow X13/Z13 + XGM, I'm confident that the ROG Ally will be also mindblowing. If not the first then the second version.

[@Troboba]

Thank you for your professional input. With Linus video I had the feeling I was watching an ad...

[@DorukPasha]

Heyy can you make an analysis of dlss frame generation and tell whether it can boost performance in bandwidth constrained scenarios?

[@seethruhead7119]

There is a market (me) for a "hardcore" pc gaming handheld that is best suited to being used when connected to a charger. Or I would a display/control device that can be connected to any desktop PC. Providing controls + screen steam deck like form factor

[@VanBurenPhilips]

I've wondered if the Steam Deck can be used like that (re: your second sentence), sorta like the Wii U gamepad.

[@losteden6390]

@@VanBurenPhilips It can't

[@moy2010]

You deserve more subscribers, man! Great video!

[@RyeAlvaro]

I saw the board, and I'm very surprised by the cooling design. Heat pipe with 2 fans at the end of each side.

[@Zontar82]

with rgb stuff and other shit that will never cool the cpu properly.

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

And also way less noise than the Steam deck

[@GSBarlev]

​@@Zontar82 Can we talk about how they threw in RGB but didn't bother to use Hall Effect sensors? LTT was speculating that the triggers aren't even analog...

[@kevinpiot7317]

@@GSBarlev But it was in alpha state.

[@GSBarlev]

@@kevinpiot7317 That makes it even more embarrassing to skimp on a component that's going in maybe ten units! Even ignoring that, Linus' minder would have at any point rushed in and assured them that HE triggers and joysticks would be in the final design.

[@galbrightperry4506]

When you were going over the pros of the 120hz screen I wish you mentioned that having a higher refresh lowers latency, even when only playing games at 60 or even 30fps.

[@artlew6547]

Of course, it’s just phawx, he just downclock everything to play some emulation titles on 40% screen brightness just to get 2h gameplay more, while who as an adult person play more than 3h straight?

[@I86282]

Those are all legitimately good points. But I think there's still more performance in a lot of other different scenarios that having 120 Hertz panel would still be enormously advantageous. With a ton of overhead to spare.! Emulation for 1. Video playback that supports that refresh rate. And in a pretty lightweight game Counter-Strike. Or even Fortnite @ Low. You'll be at 120 with room to spare. It may not be at the highest settings. But it's achievable. And as an enthusiast product. Having the option available is completely appropriate. I mean you are looking at it with s*** colored glasses on. Stop hating. And start appreciating.!

[@aladinz88]

i think you did not get it what he was saying... 120hz is fine, also in older titles where you can run them, but you need all the 35W horsepower from the chip + X amount of system power to achive that. than you can play like 30 Minutes at battery. this is a handheld, designed to play a reasonable time without powerplug.

[@jennyrosedeleon2557]

We need a massive leap in battery tech to power up all the amazing specs(but normal in PC world) we'd want for handhelds.

[@I86282]

No. I'm pretty sure you're misunderstanding me. Have you not heard of ASUS before.!? Is there whole marketing strategy unfamiliar to you. I mean sure No one's going to sit here and say ASUS doesn't want as big market share as all possible. So if they can get the masses on board. Fine. But if you've been a paying attention. Asus specializes in quality. Not quantity. And if that quality hits enough of the market. Then they're guaranteed to make money either way. However.! Asus is primary demographic. Is the high end niche demographic.! Sure they go a little gamerfy. But they always have the finest engineering.!! And when I say hi-end. Does that mean high performance or high efficiency. Well technically there's no reason one can't be both. But the reality is most of the time they are one of the other. That being the case. Which one does ASUS most often specializing. "Performance" obviously.!!! It doesn't matter if it gets 100 ft to the gallon. As long as it's the most balls to the wall. Pants on fire handheld. That's the only way Asus was ever going to allow it into the world. Because like he said. They're not Steam. Durability to continue making money off of the product is limited after it's sold. So what is their strategy. To get everyone to buy their stuff. Duh. Make it the best.! In one way or another.! They don't claim it's all around the best. But they say these specific things are the best. And all of those things. Are important. In any computing device. Handheld or otherwise.! So the fact that he's acting surprised at its inefficiency. Is a little mind-boggling to me. Which prompts me to again ask the question. Has anyone here heard of Asus before. And is this business model a surprise to anyone who has heard of them.!?!

[@I86282]

@@jennyrosedeleon2557 actually what we need is a type of whole room chi charging. That doesn't microwave you.! Also if you were actually using this as a portable version. Instead of something you just can easily use anywhere around the house. Then you would very probably also have an external pretty hefty battery pack. Like people who always use laptops. The difference is. Pulling this out of your bag or pocket. And starting to play. Out and about in public. Is much easier. And logistically functional to do then a laptop. It's not like a laptop you have to pull out and set up. You just pull it out the bag. And start playing.

[@shawnsmith564]

Thank you for explaining this, very informative vid for handheld gamers

[@AtiCrossfireX]

Gpd win 4 is a complete true windows handheld portable. I'm glad I pre-ordered one I'm just waiting on it. So for now I'm loving my steam deck.

[@teebs90]

I agree and if I hadn't purchased a steam deck I would definitely be getting the win 4. The size, the keyboard, the little trackpad... it's the perfect windows handheld.

[@TheAlexdx7]

This thing is going to blow the win 4 out of the water and for cheaper

[@HoldMeForever]

Your videos are so professional and informative 🎩

[@nathanfife2890]

One of my absolute favorite features in the steam Deck is the capacitive touch on the joysticks to enable gyroscopic aim. I find most aim related games almost unplayable without it. I don't know how I would have played Half-Life 2 without that. Basically any handheld that doesn't have that feature is borderline useless to me because I won't actually be able to play anything.

[@LM-nb7rj]

I played borderlands 3 from start to finish that way, it was an amazing experience 🤩

[@OC.TINYYY]

That sounds like a you problem. Such a useless feature.

[@xjcl6469]

A lot of it will depend on their software too. If they can develop a windows overlay that allows most of what SteamOS does (capping fps, capping tdp, native FSR, easy keyboard access, etc) I think this could be interesting.

[@sluxi]

Would make a lot more sense to me if these Steam Deck copycats used SteamOS. I have very little faith in Asus being able to build a great software experience on top of Windows.

[@TheMahayanist]

It always comes down to software competitively. Hardware is just plastic and metal without any software.

[@sluxi]

@@TheMahayanist not quite, like Alan Kay said hardware is just software crystallized early. But neither of the two alone is enough, you have to look at the whole.

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@sluxi without SteamOS, I see no reason to buy this.

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@redscorpion9325 if a digital game is not available on GNU/Linux, then it is not worth of my time.

[@Sebi1998]

GPD Win 4 anyday / it can push the screen to 75hz(easy to overclock) and it got good cooling to push to 40w gaming and every control you need

[@keyoske]

That's a super-clean TG-16 box back there! I ❤ it!

[@mnlala]

120hz its overkill but i do want the fastest chip idk if it will be de z1 or the main 7840u that will make me choose between consoles and brands

[@TehAbdullah]

How to wrap APIs more easily other than dgvoodoo?

[@PoochMania]

Sir I just want to ask you a question, if I buy this device can I play games using this device? This video is clearly not for me and I don't understand those jargon. 😂😅

[@piero914]

That transition from thumbnail to video 👀

[@jonservo]

I said the same things when I saw the videos about this device. The battery is going to last about the the time it takes to turn it on to when you rush to find an outlet to plug it in. That’s not mobile gaming if your still tethered to the wall. I mostly use my steam deck plugged in but I know what to do to get a good 4-5 hours out of it unplugged. This device will have to make all the same concessions the steam deck does when all is said and done if you want to play mobile, and if you want to play plugged in you should stick with the laptop or desktop for the bigger screen. The best case use for this is people that travel a lot for work and such, that’s why I got the steamdeck. I spend several nights in a row in different hotels most weeks and the steam deck is the perfect size for taking my steam library on the road.

[@SKY11211213]

Wow I’ve learned something about the way my favorite old games won’t run on windows if i would ever want to use windows which i won’t on sd

[@jesusbarrera6916]

My biggest issue is them not naming the pricetag... pretty much a red flag for their "competitive" pricing they would already have their market research from the STEAM DECK's success alone

[@PaulOsbornesChannel]

Keep in mind that Valve themselves were surprised at how well the 512 sold, so they have some justification for a higher priced device

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@PaulOsbornesChannel the 512gb model sold well because the other models tended to sold out and it was still cheaper and better than the competition

[@dragonball3166]

Your right but it’s also hard to judge machine with knowing what they put in it supposition make it better than steam deck that’s what making me nervous go buy this

[@stella40120]

Hey, it's been a quite long moment since I can't decide which one to buy since the most game I plan to play is Tears of the kingdom on emulation. The thing is that I can't decide if the OXP2 is gonne be enough for it or if I should just wait for something like Asus ROG Ally which will be more powerful. If someone can help me to decide sharing their own experience that would be nice. Thanks guy

[@czswerdloff]

I think the tow main issues for pc handhelds is GPU which you mention however there is another large issue, that as a society we are constantly putting the cart before the horse. We need to new battery tech so that we can have actually portable long lasting devices with extra bulk like battery packs defeating the portability of it.

[@TheAldo32]

Great video and good points👍

[@romeucapelasa]

I'm not so hyped for this one but I'm hyped for a possibility that is makes so all aibs, start to make similar ones and within 2 years we would have stuff made for that marked like gddr/ddr5 hybrids or even Intel apus in that segment or even Nvidia with arm x86 emulation

[@user-cn5vg9ex8m]

I've had my steamdeck for a year now and power usage is 100% the biggest issue with newer games. I played spiderman remastered at mostly 40fps and got about 90 mins of battery if I'm lucky. I like using the touch pads for emulator menus so not having them is a nogo. Trying to push 120hz with a tiny battery and multiple fans and a bright screen is def going to kill portability. I'm happy with my steamdeck and after a year of owning it I still love it. I hope the rog does well even tho it doesn't fit my use. The next steam deck is gonna be dope

[@RobSanders1985]

Well said! I'm mostly happy with the SD performance. If a game doesn't play well with SD, I probably would want to play it on a more powerful laptop or desktop anyways where I'm free of interruptions or time constraints. I play a bit of SD on my hour lunch break but you can only do so much even if you smash your food so you can enjoy some gaming.

[@chrislaustin]

Hey Phawx, excellent video, and when I started, I didn't plan to stay until the end, but it was so informative from start to finish, I just couldn't leave. And I completely agree on how this was approached by ASUS as look at all the videos posted in the last few days stating "Steam Deck" killer. Look at how many have ran with that, and outside of cost, questioned very little of the overall hardware. As stated, competition is always great for consumers, but I'm a long ways away from jumping on the Ally bandwagon thus far, but who knows what the future may bring?

[@jackhovatter]

To be an anything killer cost matters a whole lot. Lynx couldn’t compete with game boy

[@ThePhawx]

Thanks for watching the whole thing! Appreciate your time!

[@CFWhitman]

@@jackhovatter I had a Lynx back in the day, and it was pretty cool. The biggest problems were battery life and buttons that didn't resist activation by hand perspiration enough. I remember having to use electrical contact cleaner to get buttons to stop activating after I had it for a while.

[@zer0legend109]

I will wait for steam deck 2 even for few years, that's fine with me

[@AlexPerez-bd9nc]

These companies never studied handheld history clearly

[@IMIute]

Geforce now priority teir could potentially take advantage of 120hz and give you more battery life.

[@jdominguez2282]

spot on, clever assessment!

[@jacymark661]

I know someone who isn't getting a review unit. Also I love your content man keep it up.

[@DoubleDragon5180]

lol for real

[@NGEvangeliman]

I'm just happy that there is coperate intrest in portable pc gaming

[@GodMcQueen]

*Oh man, I still want that Alienware UFO handheld...*

[@irektoporski820]

Got my sub clear and good comment about subject

[@yamiworld2724]

Please address the Aok Zoe A1 pro & A2! Really love your content! 👌

[@bhaskarkumar2653]

That's means lwill not able to run modern games at native res in ally😢?

[@eatyoursupper]

I would love if you took a mini PC with a RDNA2 APU and hooked it up to a 1080p/120hz screen just to illustrate some of these points.

[@GSBarlev]

Mini PC APUs are typically allowed to run at 55-75W, though--I have a Vega 11 3400G, and it can do 1080p. Not at 120fps, but we've come a long way since Vega. For the modern equivalent look up the reviews for 7735HS mini-PCs--they're absolutely viable little gamers.

[@kiLLjoy24CALI]

I don't have any clue on half of the things you said, but somehow, you made it perfectly make sense. That's how I realize you're a great communicator and a content creator. Subbed

[@ThePhawx]

I appreciate that! Thanks!

[@helldragonreginald]

Finally a reviewer that knows how to see thru marketing hype and knows his stuff

[@ryangilstrap1050]

just signed up for ally cant wait for it come out

[@lxDastanxl]

I mean they are killing it with the Flow z13 that thing it's a dream come true I know lots of mobile gamers playing on 13 inch tablets so having a PC table with a RTX 4070 is something just amazing they should be focusing more with the Flow products

[@JohnnyinCLE]

I appreciate the rant. That said: -Globally, the ROG Ally was quietly announced on March 31st, 2023. The video may have been released on April 1st, but ROG users have known about the ROG Ally a day earlier. -This product has been in development for over 2 years. -THIS PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED. -While Linus might have said that only two units are being flown around, this is half-true. A dozen units have been making their way around, at roughly 3 different variant models.

[@ragingtyga]

I think his point is moreso that this product doesn't make sense, and it's going to go the same route as the steam deck competitors, and just continue to do this spec war "also ran" thing where they talk about how much better they are than the deck, but being functionally less practical, useful, and meaningful to own, because they just ignore all the important compromises Valve made to make the SD more reliable, afforable, somewhat (but not great) efficient on battery, better to play games with (this thing doesn't have track pads)

[@JohnnyinCLE]

@@ragingtyga I appreciate the response. Perhaps there is some confusion toward whom this device is marketed towards, and I can also understand frustration from the conjecture implied with the lack of information with this device. For instance, the conjecture of whether the SD/TF system would be optimized, along with other facets, like screen resolution vs display efficiency, battery life, etc. That said? I will say that I do think that some of this is much ado about nothing, and that at the end of the day, folks will either love or care less about the device. What I can say however, is that the ROG Ally *will* be able to be previewed at stores internationally, and not just Best Buy in Canada/US. I'd suggest giving the final version a test drive, and be the judge from there,

[@ragingtyga]

@@JohnnyinCLE I don't think there's confusion, I just think that the he's making a point that this device isn't going to run the way ASUS claims and he backs that up with data. As far as who it's marketed for, we know who. The question is, is it actually going to satisfy the people is aiming at, or just end up like the dozens of handhelds that people look at, and say "This is probably better than a steam deck, but it's more expensive and gives me less battery....I'll just get a steam deck"

[@billybobthorton2026]

@@ragingtyga I am just not really sure what you steam deck owners want. Should everyone just throw their hands up and say, "It's not viable to make a competitor to the steamdeck, until 2025 because APUs just aren't there yet." ? Every steam deck owner bawks at every increased spec. Obviously battery life is a concern. I am under no illusions about that. But at some point we have to move away from an APU made in 2019 and 60hz screen.

[@JohnnyinCLE]

@@ragingtyga Respectfully, I disagree. For one thing, the casual Steamdeck user may not realize that ROG Ally is meant to be an extension of the XG System. By this? XG System is one where it started with the Flow, but is meant to eventually span across more of the ROG family of devices. For now, that means the Flow X, Z and Ally devices, but will expand further in the near future. This is why some of the design choices were made. It can be argued that the Ally will, in some ways, be "The Switch on Steroids", as it soft docks into XG system, and can also be bridged with Arion for further expansion of abilities. As for the sales strategy? Best Buy was strategically chosen, as it's presently the strongest of the initial physical stores in North America that would retain the ROG brand, in general. With time, this would likely expand, to various stores of certain pedigree (e.g; Micro Center).

[@chrisp.9069]

I have a solution to this plug it in I already on a lot of Asus products including the Z 13 flow along with the mobile GPU that is supposed to be compatible with this device and what most likely will happen is with other Asus devices when it’s not plugged in it probably won’t allow you to go into what they call turbo mode. I have the Z 13 and will probably be getting this because I travel a lot and the only places where I don’t have somewhere to actually plug-in is maybe on like a bus or subway system (but I have some pretty cool, hundred watt output, small power stations that I could still plug into ) but for the most part when it comes to airplanes and other forms of travel. I always have somewhere to plug it in and when I don’t I doubt I’ll be playing more than 20 minutes anyways so I don’t see the problem here.

[@NatsumeKonno]

I'm just waiting for the aya neo next 2. The only thing the asus got going is the egpu docking for more power. Well I just want more power built in. I'm always plugged in but I do not want to lug a huge box along with the handheld plugged in everywhere.

[@TehAbdullah]

Wich handhelds are native landscape?

[@captainchuppachup]

Depending on whether you would all it "handheld" then Win Max 2. Also the Win 4 is landscape.

[@exklimexklim]

You forgot that Asus was very clear to say “Custom APU” so their number could be perfectly right.

[@wordsmith451]

no

[@TheBeast-wd3cq]

Yes

[@wordsmith451]

@@TheBeast-wd3cq no

[@Valkron11]

Maybe!!!!! 🥴

[@wordsmith451]

@@Valkron11 no

[@marshyman1]

So he's saying if you were a gamer who wanted a device to be handheld, but didn't mind being tethered to a wall outlet, you'd enjoy the power of this device? Cuz I'm always playing with my OXP plugged in I find anyways. Or is there a point to be made that using that much of the systems resources for an extended period of time, you could reduce the systems operational life?