Giving The OG XBOX Quadruple The RAM | Never Done Before!

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For the first time ever, we can increase the RAM in the original XBOX from 64MB to 256MB! That’s 4 times the original amount! This has never been done before. And previously, the maximum amount of RAM we could upgrade the XBOX to was 128MB. But now that we are able to increase the RAM to 256MB are there any improvements or increase in gaming performance? Find out in this video!
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3:29 New RAM Module Overview
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@Galavis.
@Galavis. 21 күн бұрын
I prefer downloading more ram
@nunyabusiness69
@nunyabusiness69 21 күн бұрын
The only acceptable way
@nick-leffler
@nick-leffler 21 күн бұрын
Would you download a car?
@outerzevin1366
@outerzevin1366 21 күн бұрын
Same, but this mod will be great for people whose internet connection is too slow to download RAM efficiently!
@EnlightenAlchemist
@EnlightenAlchemist 21 күн бұрын
It's always better.
@dennistzortzopoulos8606
@dennistzortzopoulos8606 21 күн бұрын
​@@nick-leffleryep
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 20 күн бұрын
Upgrade the CPU Upgrade the ram i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU" in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.
@NitNek_
@NitNek_ 16 күн бұрын
Let them cook...
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 14 күн бұрын
That'd require a whole different architecture lol
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 14 күн бұрын
@@SonicBoone56 i didn't mean "literally" but they upgrading original Xbox as powerful as X360
@kraftypk7283
@kraftypk7283 13 күн бұрын
​@@SonicBoone56you'll require a whole different architecture in a minute young man
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao 13 күн бұрын
If they tinkered with the development kit that used G5 PowerMacs, I believe they could create an Xbox 360 PowerMac.
@Rexter2k
@Rexter2k 20 күн бұрын
I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.
@SoloLizzy97
@SoloLizzy97 15 күн бұрын
There will be broken Xbox's to take parts from for a good long while.
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 10 күн бұрын
I don't think that's really the point, nor a close coming problem. Compatible ram chips are most likely still in production, and are used in low power, or low capacity computational devices. That being said, adding more deditated wam for thuh swerver is always nice.
@alext3811
@alext3811 9 күн бұрын
@@TheGamersRace Yeah, you'd be surprised how many embedded systems are using cores based on Pentium era cores (system-on-a-chip) for things like restaurant bump bars, and PBXs (once upon a time anways.
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 9 күн бұрын
@@alext3811 Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the little pieces that make up old school tech….make up new school tech too. Yesterdays bleeding edge laptop is tomorrows “bump bars” as you put it.
@fffUUUUUU
@fffUUUUUU 5 күн бұрын
The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit
@otterpopdotorg
@otterpopdotorg 21 күн бұрын
I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.
@thomashunt2240
@thomashunt2240 21 күн бұрын
That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!
@UberMicroRepairs
@UberMicroRepairs 20 күн бұрын
not necessary.
@UJustGotGamed
@UJustGotGamed 12 күн бұрын
@@UberMicroRepairs hot air can easily blow away the tiny filtering caps on the board with how little solder there is on their pads
@UberMicroRepairs
@UberMicroRepairs 12 күн бұрын
@@UJustGotGamed nah. Surface tension keeps them in place
@ResidentIT_
@ResidentIT_ 12 күн бұрын
@@UberMicroRepairs ok pal
@UJustGotGamed
@UJustGotGamed 11 күн бұрын
@@UberMicroRepairs to a degree but i can confirm from personal experience they don't like to hold on very well
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao 13 күн бұрын
In 2008 a forum user upgraded to 256mb using chips from a Compaq Presario, but because comparisons between 128 and 256 showed that there were no significant gains, this was left aside. Particularly, I wish there was this modification for the Xbox 360 and PS3, they clearly suffer from the memory they have, especially the PS3. As far as I remember, there was a developer version of the x360 with 1GB of RAM, but it is extremely difficult to find, and quite expensive.
@BoDoesStuff
@BoDoesStuff 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I remember when this was done on Xbox Scene. Hate seeing these fake titles.
@awdrifter3394
@awdrifter3394 2 күн бұрын
PS3 used XDR RAM, so I don't think higher capacity ram chips are as easily available.
@Coborlwitz
@Coborlwitz 2 күн бұрын
I'm sure it could benefit emulators or applications. Im sure it would never benefit regular games that much. I will say though they have released tools since for patching games for using more ram. on top of that, with the 720p patches, the games run way better on 128mb. at the end of the day idc because id only ever use xbox for games and id use a PC CRT, not an LCD.
@RedBeardedGriffUK
@RedBeardedGriffUK 21 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM
@pavma7
@pavma7 21 күн бұрын
And StarCraft Ghost
@UserX-02
@UserX-02 21 күн бұрын
True
@blitzerblazinoah6838
@blitzerblazinoah6838 21 күн бұрын
Doom 3 as well.
@johnbrooks6243
@johnbrooks6243 21 күн бұрын
R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?
@misterjeffa2128
@misterjeffa2128 21 күн бұрын
Likely no change as they dont expect the increased amounts and look for the stock amount only.
@Nihongames
@Nihongames 21 күн бұрын
Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help + 720p patches + PC Ports or better pc ports + Texture improvement mods in games + Emulators + Sega chihiro games
@XenonG
@XenonG 20 күн бұрын
Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P
@windowsxpnt2347
@windowsxpnt2347 20 күн бұрын
@@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked
@windowsxpnt2347
@windowsxpnt2347 20 күн бұрын
hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home
@gameblabla
@gameblabla 20 күн бұрын
There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 20 күн бұрын
128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...
@SocialisedMedicine
@SocialisedMedicine 21 күн бұрын
My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 21 күн бұрын
I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed
@mikeyjnz
@mikeyjnz 20 күн бұрын
I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 10 күн бұрын
I'd say that is most likely the least problematic issue here.
@sedrosken831
@sedrosken831 4 күн бұрын
@@mikeyjnz You're misunderstanding that concept -- that was an issue primarily with motherboard-resident cache controlled by the system chipset, lasting from the 386 era on up to the Pentium MMX for Intel, and the K6-2/III for AMD. It wasn't necessarily the cache size in and of itself but rather the Tag RAM. Once we kicked over to CPU-resident L2 cache, like on the K6-2+ and III+, every Athlon, the Pentium Pro and onward, that issue either became much less prevalent (in the case of the K6 line) or disappeared entirely. In short, you can throw as much RAM at that thing as the chipset will address and there will be no slowdown.
@W2wxftcxxtcrw
@W2wxftcxxtcrw 4 күн бұрын
You’re saying there not impedance matched but I doubt it matters that much here.
@michelvanbriemen3459
@michelvanbriemen3459 19 күн бұрын
I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.
@amshermansen
@amshermansen 21 күн бұрын
Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die. The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.
@KennyPham
@KennyPham 21 күн бұрын
This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 21 күн бұрын
And, almost as old now too.
@trogdo0r179
@trogdo0r179 21 күн бұрын
As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.
@fenriswolfretro6729
@fenriswolfretro6729 21 күн бұрын
Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.
@ThexthSurvivor
@ThexthSurvivor 20 күн бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing. 👍
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 20 күн бұрын
@@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.
@weinerschnitzel7
@weinerschnitzel7 20 күн бұрын
There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.
@juanmillas665
@juanmillas665 20 күн бұрын
i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo
@qsxmirage7274
@qsxmirage7274 19 күн бұрын
Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management ​@@weinerschnitzel7
@ianray9137
@ianray9137 20 күн бұрын
Could you imagine the possibilities with a 1.4ghz processor upgrade and 256mb of ram on an original xbox? Holy smokes! I bet if there was a proper bios for something like that, it would be able to do alot more.
@ETERNAL_MODS
@ETERNAL_MODS 19 күн бұрын
Exactly because the stock cpu is 700mhz with 128mb cache and the tualatin 1.1 to 1.4 are 512k cache and faster speed. A faster ram like that could help emulators for shure :p
21 күн бұрын
I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"
@ChrisEbz
@ChrisEbz 20 күн бұрын
I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 20 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more
@LenoxFilms
@LenoxFilms 20 күн бұрын
PrehistoricRAM
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 11 күн бұрын
Both are accurate at this rate
@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta
@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta 21 күн бұрын
I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.
@official_kex
@official_kex 21 күн бұрын
Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing
@JoshLineberry
@JoshLineberry 21 күн бұрын
256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!
@another3997
@another3997 20 күн бұрын
Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 20 күн бұрын
@another3997 It may be a good idea if you're hungry. You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.
@shmapple29
@shmapple29 3 күн бұрын
@@another3997it’s a step forward is how I look at it eventually we might find a way on some consoles to upgrade hardware and keep the functionality at better frame rates and or resolutions
@syedsakifrahman3021
@syedsakifrahman3021 2 күн бұрын
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker @BlueEyedVibeChecker Since your body does not process food at over 100% efficiency, (literally impossible) you'd actually be using up more energy though blood loss and digestion processing cost. So, not a good idea but on the argument of freedom of choice, it still makes sense.
@brandogg
@brandogg 21 күн бұрын
Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 21 күн бұрын
It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for? That would likely. Be one of two things Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.
@Puretea4711
@Puretea4711 21 күн бұрын
true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 21 күн бұрын
You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.
@afewspokesloose2699
@afewspokesloose2699 21 күн бұрын
​@@Wobble2007 That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?
@marcelosoares7148
@marcelosoares7148 21 күн бұрын
​@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".
@F1dude.
@F1dude. 21 күн бұрын
Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future
@FoxUnitNell
@FoxUnitNell 21 күн бұрын
Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 21 күн бұрын
Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 20 күн бұрын
​@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 20 күн бұрын
@@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish
@kenabi
@kenabi 20 күн бұрын
i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.
@kirahirosho363
@kirahirosho363 5 күн бұрын
I forget the guy but he installed a 1.4ghz P3 from a rack mount server onto the board youtube channel Retro Renegade Repairs
@alanbenson1505
@alanbenson1505 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point. At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed! For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989. PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim 20 күн бұрын
This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤
@tigheklory
@tigheklory 21 күн бұрын
Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!
@David-gr8rh
@David-gr8rh 21 күн бұрын
Don't you mean 1.4ghz
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 20 күн бұрын
@@David-gr8rh 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.
@DannyTan6675
@DannyTan6675 20 күн бұрын
Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.
@alexgonzales89
@alexgonzales89 20 күн бұрын
This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao
@edale2
@edale2 20 күн бұрын
The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod. No waste.
@England91
@England91 8 күн бұрын
You mean like stacking them on top of each other??
@edale2
@edale2 8 күн бұрын
@@England91 that's actual the method on a v1.6 motherboard, but on v1.0-1.5 motherboards there are 4 unpopulated sets of RAM solder pads, you just need to solder the 4 RAM chips from the donor board into those 4 slots to do the 128 MB RAM upgrade. After that it's just a matter of having firmware capable of utilizing the RAM.
@fadingbeleifs
@fadingbeleifs 4 күн бұрын
Why?? You can get brand new RAM chips for it today!
@edale2
@edale2 4 күн бұрын
@@fadingbeleifs For if you're like me and have 8 spare Xboxes sitting on a shelf, lol.
@vas729
@vas729 18 күн бұрын
Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 20 күн бұрын
Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.
@prototype_pandad6536
@prototype_pandad6536 21 күн бұрын
well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel
@Innumerical_
@Innumerical_ 21 күн бұрын
a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool. Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.
@x66Hawk66x
@x66Hawk66x 21 күн бұрын
This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.
@AcuardThe3rd
@AcuardThe3rd 21 күн бұрын
Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?
@JoshLineberry
@JoshLineberry 21 күн бұрын
If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!
@hongosorongo
@hongosorongo 21 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!
@ffviifakeremake9997
@ffviifakeremake9997 21 күн бұрын
All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣
@nekomasteryoutube3232
@nekomasteryoutube3232 21 күн бұрын
@@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed) Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler
@hongosorongo
@hongosorongo 21 күн бұрын
@@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*
@Urist_Mythrilforged
@Urist_Mythrilforged 21 күн бұрын
Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 21 күн бұрын
Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives
@spragzpc1
@spragzpc1 5 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see where this ram mod takes us in the future
@GameSack
@GameSack 20 күн бұрын
One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory. BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?
@LDCoronel1
@LDCoronel1 21 күн бұрын
In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination
@gabrielbraga7670
@gabrielbraga7670 20 күн бұрын
This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.
@WeanaBala
@WeanaBala 2 күн бұрын
your content is a perfect mix of informative and mesmerizing! ✨
@rtbear674
@rtbear674 17 күн бұрын
I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.
@dakotart1984
@dakotart1984 20 күн бұрын
Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.
@DaiAtlus79
@DaiAtlus79 20 күн бұрын
i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!
@Moved2Rumble
@Moved2Rumble 19 күн бұрын
You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.
@mattliston1215
@mattliston1215 21 күн бұрын
this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!
@chriskalkman3815
@chriskalkman3815 19 күн бұрын
This will be good for people who just need replacement RAM chips.
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 20 күн бұрын
Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!
@jdownj
@jdownj 15 күн бұрын
The issue is that none of the accessible PCB manufacturers will do castellated edges on such a fine pitch… hence the hack
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 15 күн бұрын
@@jdownj That very well could be a problem. I know it's possible because I've seen fine pitch castellations, but they were on ITAR regulated assemblies.
@jdownj
@jdownj 15 күн бұрын
@@Sun-ut9gr that brings up an interesting point. I have no idea if PCB technology is regulated in any way… BUT the board manufacturers that can work down to that small are probably busy doing stuff that is more profitable for them than a hobbyist project like this…
@DavitTheCore
@DavitTheCore 21 күн бұрын
Damn Half Life 2 might have benefitted from more RAM. Well, a Pentium 3 would be the actual upgrade that would make Half Life 2 work very well.
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 20 күн бұрын
@@DavitTheCore you can overclock every original Xbox to 900mhz fsb 133 to 166 the max of the XBOX Nforce2 chip, and HalfLife2 runs flawless even in 720p with 128mb ram... But with 256mb you can USE HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 like the PC... the only that the XBOX port lacks, it uses SD textures because of the low ram.
@DavitTheCore
@DavitTheCore 20 күн бұрын
@@SargentoDuke I guess that could very well work! I'm not sure the end result would be as good as a Pentium 3 modded Xbox (just like shown by modern vintage gamer).
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 19 күн бұрын
@@DavitTheCore Xbox had a way better Motherboard than a pentiumIII and way better optimized software
@Em.P14
@Em.P14 6 күн бұрын
i am astonished that this works from both hardware and software standpoints
@exnihilo1910
@exnihilo1910 21 күн бұрын
Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!
@technocolossus7763
@technocolossus7763 21 күн бұрын
Impractical, but why am I tempted to do it all the same? Who can I tell to shut up and take my money?
@Wally17.
@Wally17. 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, me too.
@KenjiiD
@KenjiiD 21 күн бұрын
Think this is the earliest I've ever caught a video after upload😂
@icedlottie
@icedlottie 17 күн бұрын
always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!
@auugh64
@auugh64 21 күн бұрын
i enjoy your videos man
@UserX-02
@UserX-02 21 күн бұрын
What could an Xbox do with such memory
@SILVRXIII
@SILVRXIII 21 күн бұрын
Finish the video
@R3TR0--93
@R3TR0--93 21 күн бұрын
my taxes?
@thecircuitbox
@thecircuitbox 21 күн бұрын
Nothing, literally.
@saddlesore_adventures
@saddlesore_adventures 21 күн бұрын
Nothing useful. Each home-brew app, each game must be modified to utilize additional RAM. As there are no devs working on software patches and the mod itself is not trivial, it will never gain meaningful user-base. One day you may see some random game patched, or some app with 256mb support released, but that's it.
@pavma7
@pavma7 21 күн бұрын
Run StarCraft Ghost
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 21 күн бұрын
We have CPU upgrades, we have RAM upgrades, we have DVD ROM upgrades, and we have SSD mods… Now we just need a GPU upgrade.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 21 күн бұрын
At this point we might as well go all in with a custom mobo running a modded Xbox BIOS. There must be a surplus of older CPUs and GPUs out there with similar architectures like Core2Duo and certain Nvidia GPUs that we could plop onto said board with a skt775 DDR2 memory controller and a GB or 2 of RAM
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 21 күн бұрын
That would probably do more for Ops 1fps YooTube at 8k woes. Least we forget the XBOX basically had a gForce 2GTS Chip inside it. Which was already old by the time they put it there.
@8bitnation419
@8bitnation419 21 күн бұрын
RTX 4090
@u263a3
@u263a3 21 күн бұрын
@@AmaroqStarwind might as well buy a new PC
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 21 күн бұрын
@@Ichijoe2112 The NV2A is basically a GeForce 3.5, closer to a GF4 which is a powerful GPU relative to its generation, it is more than enough for games of that era, especially considering that GPU was designed with 1024x768p to 1280x960p in mind, and the OGXB only needs to render @ 240p-480p, add to that almost zero OS overheads, fixed hardware optimizations and the bare-metal API, you could say it squeezes at least 50% more performance vs its desktop equivalent. It's just starved of RAM, unfortunately.
@amy-295
@amy-295 6 күн бұрын
There's so many interesting videos at 3am lol
@chasefournier
@chasefournier 21 күн бұрын
The PCB design is really nice! Would be really cool if you could add higher storage ram modules. Like a 512mb chip to the PCB. End up with 4gb of RAM haha
@hexidev
@hexidev 21 күн бұрын
Doesnt have the same architecture so it wont work...
@vguyver2
@vguyver2 21 күн бұрын
So we have a mod now for both a faster processer and more Ram for less faster loading and less crashes. Just something as a console gamer that throws me off since I am very old school.
@ZeroX252
@ZeroX252 20 күн бұрын
It seems like a 3d-printed jig for bending the interposers gently and evenly could also prevent the issue. I do wonder if just making the interposer a flex PCB instead of a solid PCB wouldn't also work though.
@WiKiTWoNKa
@WiKiTWoNKa 21 күн бұрын
So did you only put four new RAM chips on the top side and not on the bottom side I really couldn't tell. Is there more slots open on the bottom side?
@brode562
@brode562 21 күн бұрын
almost 20 minute video and you're not gonna show any games running with the ram upgrade? not gonna show 720p video playing on it at full speed? what a waste of time.
@joshsimpson1739
@joshsimpson1739 20 күн бұрын
😊😊
@NotTheRealBBC
@NotTheRealBBC 20 күн бұрын
Agreed. A lot of fluff dressed up nice
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 20 күн бұрын
720p needs a CPU upgrade to run... or overclock the stock CPU to 900mhz, or change the CPU to 1ghz or more with a 370 interpoder, that is WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS RAM UPGRADE, having a new ram modules that are DDR2 adapted for the original xbox is awesome, as its a "new part" not like the CPU that are "limited old hardware". Anyway, all XBOX can run at 900mhz even 1ghz from stock, overclocking by software. There are no patches for use that ram, but for example games like MORROWIND you can use 256mb de ram to increase the VIEW DISTANCE.
@doodlebroSH
@doodlebroSH 21 күн бұрын
Recommend spending a little more time finding an actual use case to demo this. Playing an 8K video is an utterly useless benchmark.
@another3997
@another3997 20 күн бұрын
Which is exactly what he said in the video... but he also said, there's nothing that can take advantage of the extra RAM at this time. I guess listening and comprehension aren't your strong points. 😆
@TheMavastone
@TheMavastone 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for this information:)
@BawkBawkBawk666
@BawkBawkBawk666 5 күн бұрын
As someone of whom the art of soldering is lost upon, you sure did make the process look easy.
@alectrona6400
@alectrona6400 21 күн бұрын
5 views in one minute? bro fell off
@notimportant3033
@notimportant3033 21 күн бұрын
3 likes in 3 minutes? Blud fell off
@Maximus20778
@Maximus20778 21 күн бұрын
Why so toxic
@alectrona6400
@alectrona6400 21 күн бұрын
@@Maximus20778 it's a joke :/
@ffviifakeremake9997
@ffviifakeremake9997 21 күн бұрын
This is so interesting, your last video on the Raspberry Pi Pico blow my mind. Which Raspberry Pi Pico should I pick up to mod the original Xbox? I've seen one called the Raspberry Pi Pico W and I'd like to see more Raspberry Pi modding in the future 👍
@dinosqautch6941
@dinosqautch6941 21 күн бұрын
I’d never try this mod. But I love stuff like this great video man!
@jooei2810
@jooei2810 6 күн бұрын
That is some nice soldering action!
@bkims
@bkims 7 күн бұрын
These interposers are quite cool and definitely have applications outside of xbox upgrades. Many retro devices using that the SGram or SDram package type could possibly take advantage of them. Retro graphics cards for example.
@Not_mynumbness
@Not_mynumbness 8 күн бұрын
That heat shield is awesome
@TheLegendryZelda
@TheLegendryZelda 20 күн бұрын
Not being individual pins I think it helps a whole lot better to bend them all at once and it does looks more modern
@mikem1323
@mikem1323 20 күн бұрын
Many years ago, I bought 4 extra RAM chips for the Xbox. After the struggle to put them in, and it makes sense, there was no benefit from what I saw. The software I ran had all been designed for 64megs and had no idea the other memory was there. Maybe some emulators will be written to use it, but most of the older systems already fit into the 64 megs already installed. Would be nice to be able to make a RAM disk as a cache but that seems like a lot of work for very little return.
@mirrakirra
@mirrakirra 5 күн бұрын
Pretty sure this has been done before, but it's still rare and difficult. Good job accomplishing this.
@luislanga
@luislanga 13 күн бұрын
This dude can solder
@jeandread
@jeandread 20 күн бұрын
That bulging caps 🤣
@BrentBlueAllen
@BrentBlueAllen 5 күн бұрын
The rigid-flex interposer is an interesting solution. I would've assumed castellated pins would've been the ideal solution, but I suppose the original footprint's pin pitch might be a little too fine for that.
@secondleasegamer8312
@secondleasegamer8312 4 күн бұрын
Time to do an Ultimate Xbox with 256mb RAM Overclocked with a 1.4ghz CPU and a 1tb SSD + CFW, oh and that new HDMI Mod.
@dmxdxl
@dmxdxl 20 күн бұрын
Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...
@rv_jumpshotz1139
@rv_jumpshotz1139 20 күн бұрын
I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console
@107bande
@107bande 17 күн бұрын
Now that the 1GHz CPU Upgrade and the HDMI mod and we got a perfect Xbox
@Alex13mod
@Alex13mod 19 күн бұрын
another great video brother!
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC 13 күн бұрын
A real cool mod that doesn't do much of anything. Bummer... great job on the sweet work!
@Mobik_
@Mobik_ 21 күн бұрын
Now THAT is a Expansion Pak
@blav
@blav 9 күн бұрын
I dont get the purple interposer, why didn't they keep the original pcb color
@sharoyveduchi
@sharoyveduchi 18 күн бұрын
ReactOS can run on the original Xbox. 256MB of RAM is more than enough for a normal ReactOS install on a normal PC. If ReactOS got further support, it could eventually be an option for treating your Xbox like a Windows XP PC
@mrwang420
@mrwang420 19 күн бұрын
Actually with the 256mb of ram it might be possible to do what the new xbox does and that is keep a running game running but in the background while being able to open up and run another game. and be able to switch back and forth between the two. Or even a website loaded in the background.
@sethinneon
@sethinneon 20 күн бұрын
Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing
@DimerNL
@DimerNL 10 күн бұрын
Any reason you dont tin your pads before placing the chip?
@hiRyan329329
@hiRyan329329 20 күн бұрын
I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it
@Thewickedjon
@Thewickedjon 21 күн бұрын
tito uploaded a new video? 0k, time for my weekly therapeutic session.
@wwazman
@wwazman 17 күн бұрын
it looks like you have 2 or 3 blown capacitors in your Xbox, next to the power connector? Might be a trick of the light, but it looks like they are bulging?
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 14 күн бұрын
God, the OG Xbox community has never stopped progressing at all. Never died, never slumped. I wish I could say the same for other beloved consoles, but truthfully most console scenes go dead for awhile, like the PS3 community currently. And some consoles have yet to have a vibrant homebrew and modding community, like fact the Neo Geo Pocket Color has no modding or homebrew development aside from IPS and flash cart mods. Makes me wonder what exactly keeps the OG Xbox community still thriving.
@mrwang420
@mrwang420 19 күн бұрын
Lol playing 4K video at 1 fps is hilarious. It's not even that it does it horribly. It's just cool that it can do it at all.
@Dekerus
@Dekerus 21 күн бұрын
Dude, you have the best intro music on KZbin. Just my opinion. ❤
@datriaxsondor590
@datriaxsondor590 20 күн бұрын
Curious if the extra ram may allow improved user made texture packs. Not familiar with how the Xbox utilizes RAM, but iirc, the GPU used the 64MB as well?
@bnbnism
@bnbnism 21 күн бұрын
Itd be interesting to see how this could affect a game like Morrowind which is notorious for its memory issue on the original Xbox which caused them to have to restart the system between load screens to fix the issue.
@fadingbeleifs
@fadingbeleifs 4 күн бұрын
Now you need the 1.4 GHz Coppermine Pentium 3!
@RavenShinyThings
@RavenShinyThings 20 күн бұрын
Getting a memory upgrade on the Xbox 360 that is utilised would be an amazing mod along side harddrive installed games.
@udance4ever
@udance4ever 6 күн бұрын
@6:20 lol i just watched @dosdude1 upgrade the RAM in his Legion Go to 32GB & he doesn't bother w the tape. I was wondering the whole time how you avoid desoldering all the smaller components!
@gummy1204
@gummy1204 18 күн бұрын
Instead of rigid flex, you may be able to use castellated edges as the connection. This would completely solve the bend problem and make the mfr process cheaper.
@realdragonrude
@realdragonrude 20 күн бұрын
It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done Seamus Blackley is smiling right now
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