What Coulda Made Dragon Ball Super, SUPER!

[@darkchild666100]

What could've made Super super? If it didn't exist in the first place!

[@chadgrimes252]

100% Facts

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Yup

[@Chriso22]

Hahaha

[@Crimsonlake-XL]

Just a daily reminder that Freiza trained for 3 months and dropped off Super Saiyan Blue 🗑️

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

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[@Crimsonlake-XL]

@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman oh 😲 wow

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

SSG could've worked exactly like UI did in the ToP: a desperation move when all hope seems lost. Whis trains Gokuu to reobtain the form, but he can't tap into it whenever he wants, until Jiren pushes him past his breaking point, just like Beerus did when he got the form for an instant before tapping out. Gokuu could've mained SSJ for the rest of the series. Only Vegeto should've been able to go into that form as he wanted, because he is a fusion character.

[@trellycee]

Super has been affected by what entertainment suffers from - greed over quality. Toei didn't have a plan for super. This is why the story was all over the place. It took them all the way to the last arc to actually put the effort into the art and animation. Episode 5 should have never happened with all the resources Toei has available.

[@M3rtyville]

not only Toei. Nobody running the series seems to know what to do. Not even the manga. I made rant from the perspective of DBS fanboys, if you want to know more about it.

[@heavenlyjojo3481]

the art wasnt really bad and using episode 5 when its been explained that those 2 arcs were rushed because of scheduling is such a stupid complaint. And most of the story problems you have are solved by the manga

[@trellycee]

@@M3rtyville indeed. It's a shame how Toei directed Super. A beloved franchise that was throughly sold out for money.

[@goatku8547]

I feel like Super Saiyan God should´ve been treated like Sonic treats his Super form.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Super Sonic is still and always an awesome form, he used that form in every game and against most of villains and final bosses, and he still get the job done every time

[@samuraissj4143]

Sonic handles his super form so much better than Goku in Super. To the point that Sonic always treats his super form with respect and because he needs it to protect his friends and family. Even transforming into Hyper Sonic too. Sonic has multiple forms and he treats his forms as always with respect and gets the job done against his enemies and villains. Thats why i respect Sonic so much. but when it comes to Goku in Super he treats his God forms like their power ups and relies so much on power and transformations to win his fights and battles but he always loses unlike his Ball, Z and GT counterparts who actually get the job done. Goku in Z and GT treats his Super Saiyan forms with respect and always needs it to help him in his advantage’s. But you get the idea.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@samuraissj4143 meanwhile Goku used SSJBlue against Krillin and Android 17 and fcking Arale? 💀

[@Gutcheeka]

Yeah Goku loses so many flights in Super that it's sad to see

[@samuraissj4143]

@@Omega-jg4oq bro imagine Goku used Ssjb against Yamcha? That would be more pathetic in dragon ball. Like it’s pathetic that fanboy’s so hard and so obsessed with Super Saiyan blue and the other god forms so much that it’s so pathetic. Hell Goku needed Ssjb to stop a black hole or something when he was with android 17. Needed blue Kaioken against mystic Gohan. Yet Goku in GT handled both of his son’s in base form with one arm each, while they were both possessed by baby in Super Saiyan. Like I can’t handle super Goku anymore man…

[@princeindisguise]

The sad thing is, they still don't get it and they don't care.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Hurts 😢

[@lowlyarchetype1015]

"Super lost" is what this franchise has all have ever been for the last 6 to 7 years, I'm having a blast looking up fanfiction like god killer than this deadzone official establishment to be "canon" ahh show called dbs

[@light250s]

Even though Whis is always in ultra instinct mode and has mentioned it on some occasion before the tournament of power, Goku learns to use a kind of ultra instinct within the super saiyan god and that at the end of the series it has come out, without any new design

[@M3rtyville]

Goku vs Bills was pretty lame To be honest, I would give SSJG and SSJB a pass for only one reason. That reason being what Toriyama layed out in interviews and what was implied in Revival of F. SSJB should be just SSJ which taps into the power of SSJG. Meaning it is basically SSJG but with the advantages of a mastered SSJ form as Goku mastered it and the whole point of the movie was 'stamina advantage'. SSJG seemed to have a time limit for how long Goku stay on it. So it needs different advantages from SSJB that give Goku use it over blue instead of being 'stronger'. Here would be a good time to introduce actual differences between mortal and god ki. From what we know, neither is better than the other. Neither quality nor quantity wise. We only know that some people who can sense normal ki, cannot sense god ki. That is all we know. Remember what the advantage of SSJ4 was? Goku's saiyan abilities were enhanced like he can adapt to things like temperature based attacks after experiencing them once. His physical appearance resembles his physical prime: Goku gets older but stops having a tan and Vegeta becomes younger. If you compare them to their counterparts Z, they resembles more them age wise pre-End of Z than their aged GT ones. Implying as characters age, they are losing some of their potential or strength. SSJG and SSJB need something similar in terms of ability. Something that helps them in combat. While healing is a nice ability, the kind of healing in the BoG arcs doesn't suit Goku in my opinion. I rather take the 'he absorbed Bills' ki' over that. As for SSJB, using SSJ to use SSJG power seems to be advantage enough. Unfortunately, Super took it away by making it a power up of SSJG with silly disadvantages.

[@RogueFox2185]

SSG should have been the main form of the series for both Sayians, it should NOT be loosing to those who statistically should be much weaker than it. (UV6 Sayians/Broly etc; and SSJB is out completely period.) The Golden Form for Frieza is fine but it should take as long as it took Frieza to obtain his Black Form to master and half that time to unlocking its potential gradually. (It should be as strong as SSJ3 until he fully masters it which then puts that form at SSJG level.) SSJR is alright and can stay as it is but it should mainly be used to showcase the sheer difference between normal and “God” Ki in terms of abilities between the two with God Ki having it’s own impressive sets of strengths along with it’s own glaring setbacks that comes with such power. Ultra Instinct should be saved for the final arc as a one-time event transformation and I’m not sure about Ego honestly, maybe just cut it out as well since Vegeta is basically a walking punching bag for the antagonist while using it.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Ssg nothing else, make them use magic or other techniques or different story telling that aline could boost it up

[@alishabazz7431]

I think it’s okay. I never liked it that much but I agree, they should’ve expanded more on it. I hated all the other forms in Super.

[@JordanPorter11207]

I agree. It also has to with Goku completely relying on SSB to fight everyone, especially people who shouldn't have been able to match that form at all. I'm looking at YOU, Tournament of Power arc. Goku should never been made to be reliant on his strongest form to fight everyone. It makes no sense and completely devalues both God forms as a result. Any forms after deminish them even further, because now the focus is off what can the God forms do, and its on what can the other forms do since they're obviously stronger. It's all just meaningless power ups that won't get used again in the anime, but will have their potential explored in the Manga, which doesn't follow the anime continuity nor for anime with the Manga. Basically a huge pile of what the fuck.

[@1ce867]

Do you think that super can even get better and improve? As long as ui is the final form in the rainbow I think it can get better.

[@Fonz128]

DBS sucks. All the DBS arcs felt like filler except for Goku black but that arc was plagued with time travel potholes and a horrible ending!

[@shanepoole527]

I absolutely agree with you when Goku fell out of Super Saiyan God during the fight with beerus even if they wanted Goku to lose to beerus and wanted beerus to be a benchmark for Goku to surpass and even with God key absorbed into his base it would have been great for Whis to have taught Goku throughout Dragon Ball super how to get Super Saiyan God to re-emerge and master the power learning techniques along the way and yeah Ultra Instinct in Super Saiyan blue we're totally uncalled for because it could have made Super Saiyan God Through Time stronger than Super Saiyan blue and have the tranquility in acrobatics of ultra instinct as an act a perfectly utilizing Super Saiyan God. Because really Super Saiyan blue has no wins neither did Ultra instinct in the anime but that's what made Super Saiyan 4 so special in Dragon Ball GT it has multiple times to shine and Goku actually had to learn the master the form and attacks and abilities and learning techniques along the way with it I mean in Dragon Ball super the only time we ever see Super Saiyan God actually have a different technique was there in the Broly movie with the God bind that Goku used on Broly even though Broly did overpower it it was still a new technique and Super Saiyan God could have been a form only used when all else failed a special transformation like Super Saiyan 4 was the GT.

[@narusaku_forever1219]

Wait if super saiyan god have healing abilities can he can get a little zenkai boots?

[@horizon8618]

He did heal a wound when Beerus stab him with hand

[@Omega-jg4oq]

It's funny that you say this, because in DB Xenoverse 2 the SSJGod Mod transformation does heal you and slowly restore your health bar 😅

[@narusaku_forever1219]

​@@Omega-jg4oqthat crazy i didn't know that

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@narusaku_forever1219 yeah, I always use it to heal myself after getting damaged from a fight, meanwhile Ultra Instinct and Mastered UI requires you to be in your 50% health in order to transform into it 💀 and it's consume a lot of stamina every time you dodge an attack from the opponent to the point of you will have zero stamina which it is not good sign 💀

[@narusaku_forever1219]

​@@Omega-jg4oqdamn ui even in games is garbage😂

[@joeloko-oboh1041]

Personally the only forms i like are ssg and ui the rest are terrible. They should have made ssg THE form unlike ssb then make ui a manga only form to make it look cooler than it is now. And also PLEASE REDO DBS PLEASE!!!!!!

[@OrangeStarHighSchool]

hey Omari, you care if i share your videos? You Young Shogun and I are the only ones taking it as it is.

[@OrangeStarHighSchool]

*I feel like it should have been called something else they don’t need to be using the word god left and right. But why did they introduce a spiritual form then just go to blue?*

[@martonnagy7988]

SSJ Blue is just a recolored SSJ. UI is not new. When SSJ4 Goku was blind, he avoided the attacks in GT. Mr. Popo taught kid Goku to avoid attacks without thinking in original DB. It wasn't called Ultra Instinct there, but it's the same thing. There are so many forms only because of money. SSJ God was ok. It would be better if there was only one form. They could also build up the power levels better. But only the forms would be better with that. There are many more mistakes in Super than this. The characters have lost their personalities, big explosions, colorful attacks and lame team attacks but no sense of danger, no storytelling, no unique idea, no real Dragon Ball feel. Super is like another anime and not Dragon Ball. If you're not a fanboy, you know that recoloring forms and copying previous series is because they're too lazy to invent new things and only care about money. It would be easier to delete the whole Super than to fix all the mistakes.

[@roshanranjan8701]

There are so mamy things I could make it better. First, I will rewrite everything from OGDB, Z, GT, Super, Heroes and connect them all together in a way where its action based and packed scenes and story telling. Or maybe, I will jus focus on Super alone. For this I would introduce SSJ4 and SSJ5 forms, along with several primal powers and Primal instincts for goku and vegeta. For piccolo, he will get some mortal based namekian forms and training from new namek with his elder For gohan, Train with the kaioshins to master the full potential of his mystic form and unleash Mystic White which is a better alternative compared to that beast crap. For the humans, such as krillin, tien, yamcha, they all undergo training with thier own roots and temples and clans. And gain some human transformations for themselves. For the androids, make them get upgraded by bulma and have her invent a stimulating training facility room for the androids where they grow 100 times stronger through each training session along with some challenges for them to enhance thier abilities and upgrades. Test thier upgrades and create thier own forms lile Super 17, Super 18 and Infinite 17 and perform a Core integrated Fusion between those 2 to create Android 35 For goten and trunks, they follow thier fathers footsteps into unleashing Ssj4 and Ssj5 along with several primal instincts and primal powers. For the god forms, goku, vegeta, goten and trunks get Saiyan god form only. Red hair, red eyes, and markings and symbols on their chest which indicates the godly nature and some ppwerful abiltiies and haxes they have never had before. Then from there they use thier primal nature to enhance thier saiyan god forms better like Primal God Forms. For piccolo, he has Namekian God form, Super Namekian God form and Namekian Sage form. The humans will gain a Human God Forms lile Tien for examples will open his third eye and gain a transcental Human God form. Krillin has a Shaolin Turtle God form. Yamcha has a Wolf God form symbolising, that of Fenrir. The androids find a way to harness and implement godly ki and powers into thier systems. I could go on and on but I'm tired.

[@RogueFox2185]

Just have OG BOG happen with the original cast, then skip 100 years into the future with Goku.Jr and Vegeta.Jr as the leads. DBS doesn’t need to be uprooted from the ground up it just needs tweaks to make it more coherent with what came before, no more and no less but we can cut Blue out completely I doubt that form will be missed at all.

[@marvelous971-j6m]

Ssj blue makes zero sense how does yellow plus red equal blue? Rose doesn't make sense since kais have white hair. Why does black has rose hair not red hair since he is a god. ssj royal blue has zero reason for existing. Is ultra instinct a form or a technique? beast who is a rip off from a fan made form has no reason to exist and why he didn't transform into one in galactic patrol arc or moro arc. Why does piccolo transform into a big orange version of himself. Why freeza is black?

[@roshanranjan8701]

Another thing i would say is the new type of zenkai boosts goku and vegeta will get. Goku should get goku blacks type of zenkai, and rapid boost adapability, along with sharpening his martial arts and ultra instinct technique style Vegeta has zenkais similar to ultra ego except he can absorb attakcs and redirect them with enough force to knock his enemies out, has hyperawareness ability, and fights lile a strategist and a tactician and not some dumb crazy maniacal idiot who loses like fool. Character wise, goku should be a mixture of Z, GT and Xenoverse. Vegeta should be a mixture of GT and kakumei Ultra instinct is SOLELY a technique and not a transformation so no silver hair or ui omen glow nonsense.