What CSGO & Valorant Players can Learn From Each Other

[@Elmapuddy]

There are a lot of differences between the two games and different stratergies of course work better on one than the other (just notice how fast this play is from Fnatic compared to what you'd see in CSGO), but this video was made to highlight some of the similarities in approach that can be translated across. Interested in your feedback on this video as I obviously haven't covered Valorant before. Also this video fried my brain trying to switch between the different termonology between both games so sorry about that! eg. Mollys, Snakebites, etc.

[@deltaslayer1132]

I really liked the comparison and I think you explained it really well! CSGO is my main game so please keep the focus on that. And for the terminology, it was easier to understand when you said Molotov rather than a snakebite.

[@shreesan1]

Team strategy ofc

[@jonathand1996]

Honestly just call them all mollies. The only ones who'd care if you called it snakebite are Riot.

[@matthiasfoo1217]

so...nothing against valorant but, how much did u wish there was a demo viewer after making this video...

[@bogartlogarta321]

Please do more Valorant videos! i've been a fan of your channel since 2017!

[@Meloncholics]

Sad to see people can't enjoy both games...

[@fredyou6899]

lol please keep making cs videos regularly, as much as I love to see some quality valorant analysis from you, don’t stop with counter strike

[@kretisy]

id love to see both valorant and cs that would be nice

[@vodkabullet4066]

Kretisy no IT wouldnt

[@alpheusburgos3003]

I love how you analyse and review cs gameplay, i wish there was a channel for valorant that analyses like you do for the game, love your content btw, big fan

[@vngt]

bumpaah and sgares do a bit of analysis. You could also try watching Fnatic Boaster's twitch streams from last week.

[@alpheusburgos3003]

@@vngt i do watch both of them but not as much, but fair point they do analyse the game well and really offer good vod reviews

[@v0rtz]

Check out Valorant Ascended, he did a video in a similar style regarding Shazam’s icebox game

[@bluddehspai]

I'm coaching a collegiate team right now and since I'm from CS:GO, I tried my best to accept that the games aren't that similar tactically. From drafts to map design, the game's meta (for now at least) is quite different. Drafting enables what your team can do and can't do while the map designs force a more committal playstyle compared to CS:GO's pick-and-play approach. For real though, this type of content is what I'm waiting for since I loved your guides and it lead me to the player/mentor that I am today!

[@KevinWowCS]

Hey! I have quite a bit of collegiate CS:GO experience myself. Curious to know which school you’re coaching?

[@bluddehspai]

@@KevinWowCS I have CS:GO pretty much figured out but it's Valorant that I'm having trouble with. I'm coaching for a Valorant team in a university in the Philippines if you're wondering!

[@omEon]

Something I've always thought will eventually happen is somewhat of a mutually beneficial relationship between the two pro scenes, with pros switching between games somewhat freely, especially ones that aren't getting signed to the teams they want.

[@ELGUAPOIV]

Valorant pros can't transfer to CSGO.

[@omEon]

@@ELGUAPOIV why not

[@sammy123999]

@@omEon The only CS pros going to Valorant are the washed up ones. I could have maybe seen a scenario where maybe young Fortnite kids go to Valorant and then CS. But that all depends on if valve will do anything to help market the game.

[@CrumbsFPS]

I feel like it'll be interesting to see you dabble in some Valorant breakdowns. Hope that you'll drop some Valorant videos here and there

[@Elmapuddy]

I'm thinking about it. Might require a second channel I'll see how this one goes!

[@rohitjohn7498]

@@Elmapuddy I don't normally follow Valorant esports, but I'd definitely change my mind if I got to see more of your breakdowns

[@PkPvre]

@@Elmapuddy I think for these comparison videos you could use this channel, but if you would analyse just valorant in a video then a seperate channel seems in order. Presumably both fanbases wouldn't be that interested in the other game.

[@musicaddict9058]

What can we learn from tier 3 cs go pros in valorant pro scene ?

[@bambibambibambi7034]

sounds kinda ignorant

[@uwirl4338]

@@bambibambibambi7034 It sounds pretty fair. Valorant players are new talent, CS tier 2-3 pros, and the occasional completely washed CS tier 1 pro. Meanwhile in pro CS when a team has a new young player playing a certain spot, the enemy team is usually pretty blatant about going there much more often. Make of that what you will.

[@D0rlisok]

@@bambibambibambi7034 it isn’t. VALORANT was the perfect 2nd chance to those who could not make it on CS. Had to switch games to be relevant and make a living, won’t blame them for that.

[@medicat6494]

Thanks for making these great videos as always! This comparison is really useful, since it highlights general decision making in how to fight. It's useful much more often than specific strats or positions (which are still interesting and useful to breakdown!)

[@CosmosJungle]

this is an awesome comparison!! valorant and cs have so many similarities so its nice to see them highlighted. your analysis is just perfect for me too :D you have talent mate

[@bolt9139]

your content is so good. i’ve played two games of valorant and you still explain it so well to a guy who only plays cs

[@HERBERTinALASKA]

I haven’t played val before. But it’s great to be a little informed about the game.

[@stephenlight8955]

valorant players: fly all around the map, summon animals, teleport… csgo players: learn… what?

[@marcuselias4412]

If every game were the same, there wouldn’t be multiple games. There are strategic universalities, things we can learn from all games and applied to your game of choice. It’s this learning mindset and adaptability that allows pros to be pros at their game or multiple games. Timings, angles, maximizing opportunity, minimizing risk, understanding your toolset and your opponent’s, teamwork, psychology, etc - all of these things exist in every game.

[@shreesan1]

Pubg players:- say what? Fly?basic CS GO:- do 1 taps while spinning 60 times in 1 second

[@CR0WYT]

A lot of people say playing CS makes you a god at Valorant, but my experience has been the exact opposite. Valorant helped me improve my one taps and game sense due to how much I have to keep up with. Every time I go back to CS, I feel like a god due to how simple the game is while my brain turns to mush in Valorant after long CS sessions.

[@ansgarmoneyboy]

i think just saying molly smoke and nate is absolutly fine in valo. There are some small differences here and there for expl smokes that are hollow and those that aren't as for mollies damage per second and of course time duration but at the end it serves the same purpose as the cs smoke and molly so i think you don't need to make an effort to always list the name of the abillity that has been used exept maybe when its important bc a certain play is possible by an ability that usually wouldn't. Very pleased to see you making Valo content, as i been playing both games.

[@jastsuperb4071]

Can you please make CT specialist video again. CT specialist were my favorite videos from you, because there I learned something what I can use in my faceit games. I learned there how to defend different bombsites. Please, do those videos again.

[@ExpensiveFridge]

Video is great as always. Great quality and everything. But personally I couldn't care less about the similarities between CS and Valorant. Don't care about Valorant at all tbh.

[@nathaniellau9348]

Yeah no disrespect to valorant but I just really don't care too much for the game

[@ExpensiveFridge]

@@nathaniellau9348 Same here, mate.

[@D0rlisok]

Same. Not hating on VALORANT but I have absolutely no interest in that game.

[@InfiniteBoredom100]

This was an amazing video

[@Zahrul3]

The map layout looks suspiciously like de_ancient for some reason

[@mcUNX]

3:56 damn that AK

[@zacharyross4236]

They should add bananas skins

[@zacharyross4236]

Woah I was first

[@Freddygamingo]

Waiting for another big elmapuddy breakthrough in pro cs, hope to see you on a roster in future :))))

[@banksyy6182]

Im not into VAL at all, but the visuals seem so confusing. As someone who has never watched or played a game of VAL everything was confusing

[@irkedcs]

"You can learn a lot from how slowly Mistic played it, opening up how many options were available to him and how many options the defensive side had to check" I don't think experienced CS players are learning that from Valorant players, nor do they need to watch/play Valorant to learn that, but thats my personal opinion.

[@babaji.3982]

We need an elmapuddy style channel for valorant , unless he keeps making these vids

[@mihirx27]

VALORANT is not worth it without demos, VODs don't provide the entire picture. If you are going to diverge/make a second channel, wait until replays IMO.

[@Elmapuddy]

This is a big issue I wish the game had a demo viewer of some kind

[@Phamous1ne]

@@Elmapuddy Riot devs have stated they're working on a replay/demo system. I think the issue is building the technology. UE4 has a built in replay system in the engine but, Valorant is probably worried of hackers or whatever idk. They're building it though. twitter.com/ValorLeaks/status/1390326675628568576?s=20

[@PeterPortanteRacing]

Never saw your Channel before this but loving the Val content :) sub.

[@blanksto_o6446]

One of the last times that we're going to see Astralis being studied, fucking sad

[@Tommo_]

The dude in that valorant 1v2, look how many angles he had to check when heading to plant. Dude was 180ing every second lmao

[@monsoon2817]

I am a simple man I see ELiGE I click.

[@zn9219]

valorant no demo viewer?

[@burner887]

I was waiting for a video like this:)) I quit csgo because, even though at first I preferred it over valorant; valve just doesn't care about their game anymore, and never listens to their community. Valorant, on the other hand, even though it's not perfect in any regard, it gets constant updates that are so obviously influenced by the communitys feedback it's impossible not to love riot games. With this in mind, I still watch both games pretty frecuently. Voo absolutely hates valorant, but I still watch his informative guides because they translate well and there's nothing like them anywhere else on youtube

[@tanaykhandelwal6803]

Riot games*

[@burner887]

@@tanaykhandelwal6803 oops, mb ty

[@amir581498]

Please make more valorant content

[@rumpitur]

can you please make more valorant videos? i love your csgo analysis videos and i learned a lot from it. it would be amazing if you made more videos about valorant

[@boris6268]

I love this :)

[@wainoxkatz1195]

I found it a little harder to find a storytelling to follow in this one, than normally... for me the cut from game to game is maybe a bit to much for my engrained understanden of the game - who knows, maybe its a good thing otherwise keep it up

[@SK_1337]

1:12 Shazam can't THROW A MOLOTOV. HE IS JETT men wtf

[@Elmapuddy]

I'm talking about the Viper's Snake Bite in front of him

[@SK_1337]

@@Elmapuddy my bad

[@kolibri4880]

this is exactly the reason why i watch you when i play valorant lol and never touch csgo.

[@therockas8190]

Dawg thats not how you say Bymas

[@MrZazi8]

Bymas...

Is this game still relevant?

[@michaualtington]

yeah cs go just got a pretty big patch

[@Mo-kh9bw]

Yes, very much do, in fact the match he's analyzing peaked at 1.1 million viewers.

[@Phamous1ne]

If you're asking if a game that regularly surpasses CSGO in overall viewership (twitchtracker.com/games ), and pulled 1.1 million on a tournament (www.upcomer.com/vct-masters-2-viewership-breaks-1-million/) is relevant then... Well, you're either a troll or just oblivious

[@stoycho9776]

@@Phamous1ne cs is the better game bro.. All tje washed cs pros moved to valorant proves my point

@@Phamous1ne Putting millions of dollars in streamers, tournaments, ads would make any game have more viewers.

[@jonas440]

Honestly I dont think this helped me at all, I feel like there is so mutch stuff to learn from cs matches that its not worth looking at Val strats for me

[@Vxiska]

I had dislike this because I really dont like valorant. I cant see the same tactical element like in cs. Your CS content is quality always!