What Darts Should You Be Using in Your Blowpipe? (OSRS)

[@RubsNL]

The cost per hour chart is really all you need to intuit that addy darts are almost always the way to go.

[@SmallExpLamp]

Very true. Basically says it all

[@Opop901LP]

These only apply for singular monsters, for Cox/tob this doesn't apply due to the exponential time saved by not brewing

[@dougielolking]

Yah i feel like only these certain monsters does this really retain too . Like for bosses id say rune is worth it . More dmg = faster kills = less darts

[@chrisford8500]

@@dougielolking no, it's still not worth using rune.

[@bigshrub45]

Thank you for saving me 10 minutes of this guys chatter

[@pawtucketpatriot4759]

Everyone: what darts should I use Lamp: Let me get my abacus

[@daniel69]

Addycus*

[@mypizzaisburnt7904]

Just enough for that 10 minute mark ...

[@Alex9ten]

Dragon darts to crash, addy darts when they hop

[@spicysalsaking791]

Yup. This is always the method to use.

[@Fghwads]

I really enjoy these videos man, and I think you have a real talent for explaining the concepts in the game. One recommendation I thought of watching the past few is it would be helpful to have a sort of “Table of Contents” at the beginning showing what categories you’re going to examine (maybe with time stamps). Plus, a “Bottom Line” summary at the end could help too. I know the videos are relatively short but this could be helpful for people looking for only on comparison, or just a final answer. Awesome work man!

[@6500s1]

mith darts are like the best way to train pures at sand crabs because they cost like 6gp ea, shouldn't even consider using those on a blowpipe, stick to addy most of the time and easy profit. :D maybe rune in some cases where it gives a max hit.

[@spicysalsaking791]

Mith are the best to use when thrown manually (without a blowpipe), as long the NPC has very low/no defensive levels/bonuses AND steel darts don't have the same max hit as mith. If steel darts have the same max hit as mith in your specific range gear setup and range level, then always use steel darts. Blowpipe isn't good for crabs because of the venom damage.

[@kalebhuckeba]

This man is an accountant at heart.

[@hiddensurfaces6084]

I was just wondering this! Thank you for the videos 🙌🏽

[@JesseJento]

I love these videos man, I haven’t even been playing but I love to see the math broken down. Awesome that you take the time to do it!

[@michaelmsulit]

Smallexplamp: hello everyone Me: ahh yes *likes

[@Erithonyoutube]

Just finished fletching 100k addy darts and came across this video. I'm so glad that I haven't sold them yet

[@grandtheftlemon301]

Tldr: use adamant darts

[@maximumeffort6049]

Honestly I think addy darts are used for training and slayer, rune darts are used for bossing and dragon darts are used for pvp and elitist pvm.

[@spicysalsaking791]

But one of the biggest take away points from this video is that rune isn't even worth using for most medium high to high defence NPCs, based on how much you'd need to make per hour to justify the "extra" ~1-5 minutes saved during every hour of PvM. In other words, rune is actually a bigger waste of money than dragon, if you exclude to factor in free-for-all PvM use (where you need to do the most damage out of everyone to even get any of the drops). I'll need to send a few of my friends (who usually use rune darts for raids/high level PvM and dragon to combat crashers or compete in non-raids, free-for-all group PvM) this vid. Their rune dart use is a waste of money. I use addy darts for PvM (97 ranged) and dragon darts to combat crashers/win free-for-all loots/for PvP.

[@beckhend]

​​@@spicysalsaking791 And mithril darts for cheap fucks who lvl to 75 ranged at crabs lol

[@Sidoxenized]

Been using rune darts forever, def changing back to adamant! Except for things like zulrah or raids probably

[@gtforever7474]

@@ryanpaddock3154 maybe he wanted to say trip but he said kill.

[@rifferr]

Ryan Paddock Test it. That’s how we’ll all know fr

[@spicysalsaking791]

Still a complete and total waste for Zulrah, particularly because it's an instanced area and you aren't fighting to do more damage than someone else in order to snag the drop. Use addy for literally everything but the following, where you'd always use dragon, almost NEVER rune darts: Inferno, against crashers, when doing free-for-all, multi-person PvM where you need to snag the drop from them, and when engaging in PvP. The only reason to use above addy darts in Raids is if you have the mindset of making sure you get more points relative to your team mates (so that you have the highest chance to receive the best drops out of everyone there).

[@astromoe1]

How early would it be possible to get a blowpipe? and what tips are recommended to off-set the price of darts/scales?

[@zardon_zane1630]

im checking this because the cost goes up to 46-50k gp an hour in darts if i use amethyst in zulrah and addy darts only use 4-5k an hour so im checking if the damage and price is worth doing the upgrade

[@A.R.H..]

I basically only use the blowpipe for bossing, and more often than not only for the special attack, so to me using rune darts seem worth it. 1k rune darts feels like it lasts me a long enough time that spending 1m to fill up my bp after making 6m from a grotesque guardians task is feasible. Plus, having a better chance of skipping the the healing faze, it giving me an extra 4 hp makes a huge difference in the long run.

[@Dudewatsup]

i just started playing about 4-5 months ago and ive watched so many of your guides, love the style keep it up homie. dropped a follow on twitch too :)

[@KoogieWaffle]

I’ve always killed hydra with addy darts lmao I’m just too cheap to use rune

[@6500s1]

rune gives a max hit with certain setups, but if you use ranging cape then it doesn't, and hydra has low defence.

[@Papahtown]

the scales u waste on the extended kill cost more than the rune dart upgrade. dart cost is negligible considering avas saves so many.

[@6500s1]

@@Papahtown if you get a max hit, then yes, much better to go for runite dartite =D

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@Papahtown Totally incorrect. Its like you didn't even watch the video, JFC. Rune darts are never worth using period end of story, and dragon is only worthwhile if you're doing Inferno, fighting off crashers, trying to snag the most DPS during free-for-all-PvM so that you actually get the drops, PvP, or doing Raids 1 or 2 with the mindset that you need to get the highest points possible so that you're the most likely person to be chosen for the rare/unique item rewards.

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@6500s1 It's still not worth it even then. Rune darts are only +4 ranged strength vs. addy, whereas dragon are +6 ranged strength vs. rune. So in terms of max hit increase probability, using dragon darts over rune darts is ~50% more likely to yield a higher max hit than when using rune darts over addy darts.

[@rifferr]

Ayy love this content!! Ik you can’t test this everywhere in RS lol but what about Zulrah or Bandos or Hydra? Would Rune Darts be worth the upgrade from Addy? I’ve only tested a few times and I feel like they’re too similar so I went back to Addy (95 Range). Since this vid doesn’t include bosses and actually uses the BP in places I wouldn’t use I don’t really understand how it would work when bossing. Could you clarify?

[@spicysalsaking791]

The only real way that rune is a worthwhile upgrade is if the extra +4 ranged strength gives you at least +1 higher max hit compared to addy. Yes rune also has +4 more ranged accuracy, but the extra max hit is more important because it indirectly reduces the amount of 0s you hit (specific 0s that were successful accuracy rolls, that unlickily still rolled a 0 for the damage roll). Let me explain. The way the equation works is it takes their visible ranged defence level (say it's level 1), and then multiplies that level by their current defence bonus (say +0) plus a static, invisible defence bonus of +64. So 1*(0+64)=64. For offensive range, it's pretty much the same. Say you have level 70 range, +142 ranged attack bonus (full black dhide+glory+blowpipe w/ addy darts+snakeskin boots and no ring, no helm), and +50 ranged strength (again addy darts) It would be 70*(142+64)= 14,420. So every hit, the defence accuracy roll rolls a value between 1-64, while the attack accuracy roll rolls a value between 1-14,420. If they both roll the same value, then it is rerolled. When the attack roll is higher than the defence roll, the attack counts as an "accurate" hit. HOWEVER, accurate attacks can STILL deal 0 damage, as the damage roll occurs separately. Once the attack is rolled to not miss, the amount of damage is determined by randomly choosing between 0 and the max hit. So if your max hit is say a 19, then the damage roll is 0-19, or 20 different possible damage rolls, with all of the rolls being equally likely. So if your max hit is say a 19, there's a 1/20 chance (20 total numbers when including 0) it will still hit for 0 damage, as well as an equally likely 1/20 chance of hitting the max hit of 19. This is why max hits make a huge difference. Think of it this way. If your max hit is a 2, when you do roll an accurate hit, it then rolls a damage roll of 0-2. So for every accurate hit, there's still a 1/3 (33%) chance that it will be a 0, ONTOP of any attack rolls that roll as a miss. If you compare that to an attack with a max hit of 1, it's a huge difference because a whopping 50% (compared to just 33% when having a max hit of 2) of accurate attack rolls will still roll as 0 damage, as the damage role is just 0-1, 50/50 chance of dealing damage. So the higher your max hit, the lower the likelihood of rolling 0 damage hits (excluding 0s caused by normal missing). Conceptually, think of a melee or range attack that misses entirely and hits a 0 as the melee/range equivalent of splashing a spell when using magic, whereas hitting a 0 with melee/range that had a successful accuracy roll (but still unluckily rolled a 0 damage roll) is the equivalent of casting a magic spell that doesn't splash (and say still freezes them in place for ice spells) whilst still dealing 0 damage. So the only places where rune/dragon are potentially worthwhile are situations where the NPC loot is free-for-all (so player who does the most damage gets the loot), where you're combating crashers, where you would otherwise die when using weaker darts (almost nowhere), or when engaging in PvP combat. And even then, all the data appears to suggest that dragon darts are significantly more "worth it" than upgrading to rune darts. Especially for something like free-for-all NPC loot, dragon darts are a much much better choice than rune, as you need to deal the most DPS to get most of the loots. tl;dr never use rune darts. Use addy darts for 99% of PvM and bring extra dragon ones in cased your world/spot gets crashed. Also, use dragon darts for PvP-related scenarios.

[@rifferr]

SpicySalsa King Wow, thank you for the detailed explanation. This must’ve taken a long time to post; I appreciate it. So, what do the 64 and 14,420 numbers on offensive range bonus mean? I understand the range str bonus = greater max hit depending on range lvl but I do not understand that accuracy part.

[@dragonlord3387]

This is so helpful, really needed this video

[@kylernault1688]

Fantastic video, very insightful! You’ve earned a sub.

[@thekrakenguy6962]

this is from using it constantly over said hour. In raids 1 for instance you can get by using 10-30 darts per raid. In that instance wouldn't it be worth it to take the dps over the gp?

[@spicysalsaking791]

But the whole point is that the average time saved by using dragon darts (usually no more than ~3-5.5 minutes max for every 1hr of PvM that uses constant non-stop blowpiping) isn't worth the much higher added cost. It's much more profitable to just comparatively "waste" an "extra" ~3-5.5min every 1hr of slightly slower addy dart PvM, and then simply spend some extra time to complete the PvM activities (Raids 1 and 2) that you would have finished a few minutes sooner if using dragon darts.

[@ThePureBarrows]

Could you do a more indepth anaylisis on rune darts & see if it has any nish uses. As i feel it may shine on some monsters better then your 2 examples.

[@spicysalsaking791]

Not really. It's all about max hits. A much better question is: at which ranged levels using which sets of total ranged strength bonus does the use of rune darts lead to a max hit increase? If so, is it always a maximum max hit increase of only +1? Using basic budget gear (full black dhide+glory+snakeskin boots+blowpipe w/ addy darts and no helm/shield), the rune dart's extra +4 ranged accuracy is only just under +2% more accurate relative to addy. And that +2% wouldn't even lead to a 2% reduction in overall 0 damage hits, as the 2% accuracy boost doesn't effect the 0s that were already a successful accuracy roll that were then unlucky and rolled a 0 damage roll (rolls from 0 to your max hit, all values having an equal chance of happening).

[@carlo2737]

This doesn’t really take high def bosses into account where I think rune darts really shine

[@spicysalsaking791]

Rune darts are only +4 higher ranged accuracy compared to addy darts, lol. The difference is laughable. Since the invisible, static ranged accuracy bonus starts with a value of +64, if using say a budget gear setup (full blk dhide+glory+snakeskin boots+blowpipe w/ darts+ no helm or shield) that is +142, then a +4 accuracy bonus increase is just under 2% more accurate. Keep in mind too that that doesn't mean that there will be 2% less 0s, as it doesn't include 0 damage rolls that were initially non-missing ranged attack accuracy rolls that were then unlucky enough to roll a 0 on the damage roll (damage roll is 0 to your maxed hit, with an equal chance of every value in that range being chosen). So rune darts are literally a meme.

[@TheJoc94]

Does the blow pipe have to be charged in anyway Or do I just need the blow pipe and darts and I'm good to go?

[@Fragsu]

Can you do the same for bursting? Nechs and Dusts etc

[@dandelions907]

Wat kind of arrows should u be using for msb

[@mangoslayer1999]

Steel darts lowkey OP

[@DerBoss1787]

I ran out at Bandos and was using steel ones from minions. Legit was getting more kills than my tent friend :P

[@spicysalsaking791]

Yup, but only if we're comparing darts when used alone without a blowpipe. When factoring in the substantial Zulrah scale cost, using anything under addy just isn't worth it. When using darts manually, mith is the most cost effective option on NPCs with relatively low defence/defensive bonuses, unless steel and mith have the same max hit with your specific ranged level and bonus setup. If they do have the same max hit, then use steel darts.

[@mangoslayer1999]

@@spicysalsaking791 Nerd

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@mangoslayer1999 Is that code for intelligent?

[@mangoslayer1999]

@@spicysalsaking791 figure it out, nerd

[@MrGrombie]

How much you guys reckon it would cost to take on FC with nothing but Dragon Darts?

[@justindrumz2556]

I use rune for bossing and dragon in cox/ tob. With assembler I use like 20 d darts a raid. With tbow dont gotta use bp much tho just mutta and tightrope

[@BMA_DuckIsLate]

Unless you do lage scaled raids, you should blowpipe mystics

[@justindrumz2556]

@@BMA_DuckIsLate yeah sometimes doing 3-5 + 10

[@erickmorris6530]

Aside from the fact that everyone already uses addy darts, I must say I'd really like to know how you got your numbers and what kind of math you did to get you there. As someone who has used both addy and rune darts extensively, I find your numbers to sound rather far off the mark. For one, I have never taken rune darts to a monster with 0 defense, that's just a waste. However, on higher def monsters, ESPECIALLY bosses, I have ALWAYS found that rune darts are significantly faster than addy. And as far as rune darts costing upwards of 9m per hour..... well i'm not sure where that number comes from at all..... Still, very nice layout to the vid, I just wish you'd explain where u get ur data from.

[@dimasjunior237]

Grotesque guardians, any chance dragon being worth it?

[@HieronymousLex]

How does 400k/h justify an ammunition upgrade while you need over a mil an hour to justify the blowpipe at all? I just don’t get the logic

[@NotAMystery]

Now that mithril darts are only 4gp each and adamant are 27, does this change your stance?

[@beckhend]

Only mithril to exp/slayer/moneymake at lower pvm not bossing ofc

[@beddzy6571]

what is the absolute max hit for blowpipe

[@IFearlessINinja]

The wiki math for calculating dart cost is wrong. It's close enough for addy and mith but way off for rune and dragon. You might want to recalculate yourself

[@SvenRz]

I literally looked up “are dragon darts worth using?” Yesterday and could t find a single video 😂😂 THANK YOU!!!

[@richliving1619]

Do one for crossbows. I use dhcb with broad bolts at bbd’s to save money lol

[@alecnolastname4362]

So a 100M cbow and budget bolts? What other gear do you have? What is your ranged level? Do you have (if you do flick it) rigour? Im just glad you arent using a BlowPipe for killing them because unless you are in max you lose close to if not half your gp an hour.. I think you’d notice a significant kph increase if you swapped to adamant diamond bolts E with karndarin diary.

[@richliving1619]

Alec nolastname god d’hide, range is 94, no rigour. For Brutal Blacks I’ll just use the broad bolts but not sure if it its a huge difference to go up in bolt. I get a full inventory with two prayer pots I believe it is. So I feel it’s not doing bad but meh idk lol

[@alonecomplexe]

@@richliving1619 hahaha i do the EXACT same as you...getting around 1m/hr that way, if i would use enchanted bolts like diamonds or rubys, sure i would use 1 less prayer pot but the cost of the bolts would cost me more at the end....currently save up for riguor 5m short and then i am sure i do need 1 less prayer pot anyways :P

[@jarislamecc]

When a monster has a defense stat of zero is it really at zero?

[@spicysalsaking791]

No. The way the equation works is it takes their visible ranged defence level (say it's level 1), and then multiplies that level by their current defence bonus (say +0) plus a static, invisible defence bonus of +64. So 1*(0+64)=64. For offensive range, it's pretty much the same. Say you have level 70 range, +142 ranged attack bonus (full black dhide+glory+blowpipe w/ addy darts+snakeskin boots and no ring, no helm), and +50 ranged strength (again addy darts) It would be 70*(142+64)= 14,420. So every hit, the defence accuracy roll rolls a value between 1-64, while the attack accuracy roll rolls a value between 1-14,420. If they both roll the same value, then it is rerolled. When the attack roll is higher than the defence roll, the attack counts as an "accurate" hit. HOWEVER, accurate attacks can STILL deal 0 damage, as the damage roll occurs separately. Once the attack is rolled to not miss, the amount of damage is determined by randomly choosing between 0 and the max hit. So if your max hit is say a 19, then the damage roll is 0-19, or 20 different possible damage rolls, with all of the rolls being equally likely. So if your max hit is say a 19, there's a 1/20 chance (20 total numbers when including 0) it will still hit for 0 damage, as well as an equally likely 1/20 chance of hitting the max hit of 19. This is why max hits make a huge difference. Think of it this way. If your max hit is a 2, when you do roll an accurate hit, it then rolls a damage roll of 0-2. So for every accurate hit, there's still a 1/3 (33%) chance that it will be a 0, ONTOP of any attack rolls that roll as a miss. If you compare that to an attack with a max hit of 1, it's a huge difference because a whopping 50% (compared to just 33% when having a max hit of 2) of accurate attack rolls will still roll as 0 damage, as the damage role is just 0-1, 50/50 chance of dealing damage. So the higher your max hit, the lower the likelihood of rolling 0 damage hits (excluding 0s caused by normal missing). Conceptually, think of a melee or range attack that misses entirely and hits a 0 as the melee/range equivalent of splashing a spell when using magic, whereas hitting a 0 with melee/range that had a successful accuracy roll (but still unluckily rolled a 0 damage roll) is the equivalent of casting a magic spell that doesn't splash (and say still freezes them in place for ice spells) whilst still dealing 0 damage.

[@samirkhanuk1996]

SpicySalsa King Holy. That explanation was insane.

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@samirkhanuk1996 Did you like it? Did you learn something from it? I never realized so many people are clueless about how this game works, seeing as it's a point-and-click medieval java game from the 1990s.

[@samirkhanuk1996]

SpicySalsa King Yeah, I’ve seen a few stats/figures saying similar to what you stated. However, the more you read it, the more it makes sense.

[@rssugab]

@@spicysalsaking791 Thanks for that explanation, I didnt know how accuracy was calculated.

[@JA-tu3iu]

is it worth getting while it is plummiting in price?

[@DerBoss1787]

If I catch you using addy darts in my Cox/tobs. Booted.

[@warryen]

I think I used dragon darts for the dragon slayer 2 bosses, then never used anything but addy ever again.

[@alonecomplexe]

yoube better off with rune/dragon crossbow and rubybolts(e)/Diamondbolts(e), since they hit up to 100, atleast when i did it with 90 range

[@warryen]

alonecomplexe yeah I did it quite early and didn’t really know much about the game at the time. I just knew that the blowpipe was op, and I assumed even more op with the best darts. Quest cape was the first thing that I did on my account. You’re definitely right though.

[@Sam-ch4hg]

update video soon?

[@Bsliggs]

You should try consumable weapon comparasion like tenticle whip vs regular

[@alexpowell1184]

Shouldn’t you have tested this at alchemical hydra?

[@U8mymicro]

Can u do this with new meta??

[@sbs2798uu]

Should I use rapid or accurate for TBOW?

[@Alex9ten]

stop buying gp and you'd know.

[@Corzappy]

Honestly the dude above is right. If you have a fucking T-bow and you don't know the answer you really shouldn't have a T-bow.

[@Overowned]

Corzappy honestly you sound like an elitist. What is wrong with people clarifying something about the game? You are the reason why players care more about efficiency than having fun now...

[@junhaofoo9563]

What happened to the good old RuneScape where people help one another? This game has become so toxic.

[@SmallExpLamp]

@@junhaofoo9563 I mean I get what you boys mean, but if this dude legit got a Tbow before asking this question. Then something is going on lmao, either way. Rapid is the way to go any time you're ranging lol y'all funny as hell.

[@adamphamrocks]

Can you do about rings?

[@alecnolastname4362]

1:34 using a blowpipe at brutal black dragons is horribly inefficient.

[@BTChanOSRS]

I doubt dragon darts at these costs are even justified in raids 1 / 2. Nobody does maths.

[@InadimentStick]

i think they would be, if everyone is using them you gotta multiply the time saved by the number of players using them. could save 5-10 minutes per raid depending on the scaling.

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@InadimentStick That's not how math works, lmfao. If 10 people using dragon darts saves the team 10x more time than just one person upgrading to dragon darts, then it's also true that 10 people upgrading to dragon darts costs the team 10x more than one person upgrading to dragon darts. It's still 100% not worth using anything but addy darts period end of story, apart from niche situations like Inferno, trying to out DPS crashers for the loot, trying to out DPS other players in free-for-all non-Raids PvM, PvP, or perhaps Raids 1 & 2 if your mindset is that you want the highest total points possible so that specifically you as an individual have a higher chance of being given the great drops at the end when compared to your team mates.

[@InadimentStick]

​@@spicysalsaking791 you are totally wrong, but i dont care enough to argue with you when it is only your gameplay is being effected by your bad ideas

[@InadimentStick]

@@spicysalsaking791 and yes, 10 people using dragon darts will cost 10x more than 1 person. that is very basic math

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@InadimentStick The point is that the video's data has identical results when extrapolated onto 10 people using it. It's just as bad of a gp waste as one person using it.

[@jasonmcmanus3577]

I always used mith since theyre 9 gp each

[@hadouken498]

rip rune darts

[@berktopal2765]

Ppl roast me because I use addy darts at tob :D It gets the job done, doesn't cost a fortune.

[@marshallvinter9090]

My buddys an ironman uses addy at raids one drives me up the wall

[@lezama1337]

Thx brah

[@paulcrawford6557]

Yea your math is way off as far as prices go, which leads me to think your math is off for other things as well. There are 3600 seconds in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute x 60 minutes in an hour. The blowpipe shoots at 3 ticks so every 1.8 seconds, 3600 seonds ÷ by 1.8 seconds per shot = 2000 shots per hour. Assuming you have Ava's Assembler you lose 1 dart out of 5 or 0.2 darts break. 2000 shots x 0.2 dart that break = 400 broken or lost dart. 400 broken or lost darts × 2875 (current dragon dart price) = 1,150,000gp per hour in darts lost or breaking. 2000 shots × 0.6 (scales used per shot) = 1333.33 zulrah scales. 1333.33 scales × 200gp each (current scales cost) = 266,666gp per hour. 266,666gp + 1,150,000gp = 1,416,666gp per hour using dragon darts in a blowpipe.

[@MrJmcd3737]

Sounds like you're on some coke in the intro talking hella faster and more hyped then normal 😂

[@SmallExpLamp]

I drank some coffee and listened to RTJ, so basically.

[@BoredBricks]

Just use a Twisted Bow.

[@jrp1329]

‘JuSt UsE a TwIsTeD bOw’ 🥴

[@Alex9ten]

@@jrp1329 "‘JuSt UsE a TwIsTeD bOw’ 🥴"

[@vincentpolera6830]

When is the next f2p to max episode

[@alonecomplexe]

f2p can basically die in a silent corner :)

[@doublea9701]

cool

[@thunderrosa2258]

Who's making 23m p/h to use dragon darts haha

[@WhydYouChangeMyHandle]

I use mith, cheap and good :)

[@WhydYouChangeMyHandle]

addy darts are 10x more expensive, ez math, + I'd like to save 520k/hr :)

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@WhydYouChangeMyHandle That's not true at all lmao. You're not including the substantial Zulrah scale costs, which right now is a whopping ~137-138gp per shot. Addy darts are only 81gp each more than mith, and when you factor in the fact that you save ~72-80% of the darts you fire, then addy darts only cost an extra ~15-16gp more per shot, so it's literally like ~140gp per shot with mith and 155gp per shot with addy, lmao. Only an uneducated person would use mith darts in their blowpipe. As for dart use without a blowpipe entirely, mith is the best choice against most monsters. If the monster in question has quite low defensive stats/bonuses, and your specific ranged level + gear stat bonuses results in mith darts and steel darts having the same max hit, then steel is always the optimal option.

[@WhydYouChangeMyHandle]

SpicySalsa King it’s 64% the price of addy when u include 2/3 of a Zulrah scale per shot, worth it imo for like 1 max hit less

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@WhydYouChangeMyHandle But like I've already illustrated, you're doing the math completely wrong. You don't use up a dart every shot. You keep 80% of them with an assembler, so it's not 81gp more per shot. It's literally only 15-18gp more per shot. Are you trolling or something? It's clear that using mith is ~90-91% the price of addy on a per shot basis.

[@WhydYouChangeMyHandle]

SpicySalsa King ur a funny boi

[@CrimsonKiwii]

this didn't age well

[@drakehess8895]

3rd!

[@zmills5218]

To poor for a blow pipe

[@Matt93Wittman]

Dragon always

[@12rsz]

Meh not really, only Would recommend it when going out to revs maybe. (To out DPS venezolans) lel ;)

[@ketsuk]

Yeah I make 24m/hr so it's no problem.

[@spicysalsaking791]

@@ketsuk lmao doing what?

[@theodoremason4154]

who knew they were so worthless lol

[@ModernWarfare924]

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[@ModernWarfare924]

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[@ModernWarfare924]

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[@ThiccAku]

only place i'd ever bother with dragon is the inferno lol