What defines a hero taking NO SKILL? | OW2 Reddit Questions #38

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Күн бұрын

Here we go again, KarQ is back at it again, answering questions on /r/OverwatchUniversity.
Definitely inspired by WIRED's Tech Support.
All of the KarQives content are live edits from the stream at / karq
00:00 - Intro
00:23 - What very obviously advantageous things do many players not do?
04:17 - What's the worst piece of advice you keep seeing given that you know is wrong?
08:00 - How should I play Junker Queen in comp and not get yelled at?
10:44 - What makes a hero no-skill, and what are some examples?
13:58 - Is complimenting the enemy team on text chat a bad idea?
16:19 - Who is a good tank to learn to start?
17:37 - Am I crazy for thinking that stats such as kills, damage and healing doesn't even win games?
19:10 - Should I main multiple tanks or one trick Ball?
20:43 - How many of you have specific characters you use for certain maps?
21:59 - Outro
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@Maha1313
@Maha1313 Ай бұрын
I feel bad for that one dude partying with crappy people with no sportsmanship or respect to their competition.
@Xfacta12482
@Xfacta12482 Ай бұрын
Yeah, people think being competitive means being toxic. KarQ says its a "sports mentality"... but I think this behavior is more from people who actually didn't play sports and never learned how to give your opponent props when its deserved. Its just ego
@gameliking
@gameliking Ай бұрын
​@Xfacta12482 fr my coach used to make us run suicides if we showed bad sportsmanship during a game. Idk how people become the way that they are lol that story was insane to me
@Monday-Lope
@Monday-Lope Ай бұрын
I literally can't comprehend how someone can see a teammate showing respect to another human being and think it's wrong in like any context whatsoever tbh. Like how does that make sense in their brain, how could someone possibly get mad about acknowledging someone else being good at the game? Just because it's 'the enemy team' in the silly fictional game?? They wouldn't feel bad saying good suzu if it was their kiriko, im so confused by people who play like this :'I
@hellos2youse
@hellos2youse Ай бұрын
Ya that guy needs to unfriend those people, in game and IRL
@reecenorwood8377
@reecenorwood8377 Ай бұрын
The teammates that won’t let you have good sportsmanship are what is wrong with Overwatch.
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
Honestly its gotten so bad i miss ow1 where people were much sillier and friendlier but sadly thats not the case anymore
@durr928
@durr928 Ай бұрын
​@@sebastianrodriguez899211:55 11:55
@NoitNoit-ef2yq
@NoitNoit-ef2yq Ай бұрын
Love how the view on Sombra through the ranks is so diverse, in Masters+ she is considered high skill and most of the times people avoid playing her to not throw when they dont know what to do, in Gold- she is considered no-skill and people whine when they see one on the enemy team, in Plat/Diamond people will whine when she is in the match in general in either team because she is weak or overpowered depending on which side she's on and still have a consistent bellow 50% winrate in all ranks.
@nurikkulanbaev3628
@nurikkulanbaev3628 Ай бұрын
Gold reaction times are funny. As a Sombra I just went to enemy backline and started Emoting, it took whole 4 seconds for them to realize I was there lol. Tunnel vision is crazy
@keithlehtinen4673
@keithlehtinen4673 Ай бұрын
It’s because the lower the rank, the lower the coordination. That’s why Sombra is hated in lower ranks and feels overpowered.
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 Ай бұрын
⁠@@keithlehtinen4673I hate her and I’m master. I know it’s not that high a rank but still I hate her. Anything that removes abilities aka all ways to defend yourself im gonna hate. She could be the weakest character in the game and I will still hate her.
@boinggerss1560
@boinggerss1560 Ай бұрын
Sorry I think being invis all game is almost as non fps as a mercy player
@prestonmitchell9135
@prestonmitchell9135 Ай бұрын
​@SocialExperiment232 sometimes you gotta be able to limit ability usage so people don't just go "push button dopamine go brr" and actually think more intensely
@svgarpaws
@svgarpaws Ай бұрын
shooting the Winton bubble also makes your supports lives much easier as majority of them will not be able to heal you when you just sit in the bubble! it bothers me so much when I play Ana and someone blames me for their death while they were having a little tea party with the enemy monkey in the bubble and I had to waste precious time breaking the bubble before I can heal them because they refused to. as for the "no skill" accusations, I play a lot of Mercy and if you've ever seen a baby Mercy you know exactly what I mean when I say you can absolutely tell the difference between them and a good/experienced Mercy. when people say "no skill", they usually only think about aim, but there is so much more to skill expression than just that. for a good Mercy, that would be situational awareness, positioning and movement. ideally you always wanna be last to die, and you can't consistently do that if you don't have any of those skills. they take time and effort to learn and that's why the people who always scream "reee no skill" tend to do terrible when you challenge them to play her.
@ZoneOutWay2
@ZoneOutWay2 Ай бұрын
Every character in the game requires situational awareness tho?
@TheKillerman3333
@TheKillerman3333 Ай бұрын
The only no skill characters are Moira, she can damage you from a decent amount away, her bubble can damage you, and heal you and the only thing to worry about is when to tp away, which as a rein main I really dislike that my charge can give an entire party at least two seconds prep time
@AwesomeAlex2007
@AwesomeAlex2007 Ай бұрын
@@TheKillerman3333moira has situational awareness positioning and movement, could argue it’s similar to mercy
@localmilfchaser6938
@localmilfchaser6938 Ай бұрын
I love bubbling people up lol
@Demonboy238
@Demonboy238 Ай бұрын
@astradotcom As someone who is trying to learn Mercy as a back up ( For the days where my aim is crap), she has gained my respect. I disliked her because of the of baby/ heal botting Mercy's but after trying her out, I enjoy playing her. I've realised how important her positioning and movement are. So trying to learn her movement has been a fun time. Plus going DPS Mercy in Valk, given the chance is enjoyable. Do you have any tips that could help/ a top Mercy player to watch?
@dbhDilemma
@dbhDilemma Ай бұрын
17:37 was once playing a comp match against a widow that was oppressing my team. We ended up having a dps that made the change to a hit scan to contest them and spent the rest of the game going 2-5, but they were annoying enough to give us space and we won because of them making that adjustment. It sucks that there was no metric to reflect the impact that change had.
@10Neon
@10Neon Ай бұрын
Sometimes I feel like saying, "did you notice how their DPS swapped off long-range characters on this sniper map? You're welcome."
@dbhDilemma
@dbhDilemma Ай бұрын
@@10Neon I promise, there are tanks that notice when you make smart choices!! Thank you!! As a Rein main, it literally allows me to have so much more freedom around the map
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 25 күн бұрын
@@dbhDilemma Mei is one of the heros that don’t usually pull high stats, but her contributions can be game changing. She has the survivability to annoy a Sombra, Tracer, Genji; with little to no resources by her teammates. Meanwhile also helping create and occupy space, relieving the pressure on the tank or even making an enemy ult completely useless with her cooldowns. None of which will be showcased in any stats and then there will be a pocketed Soldier/Cree saying "you're welcome for the carry, Mei" as if they didn’t benefit from the Mei's kit.
@ericwilson3211
@ericwilson3211 Ай бұрын
Honestly for the first one my biggest gripe is supports not swapping to counter/help. They'll swap if they're getting dove, but tell me how we live in an era where it's common sense to go hitscans for the pharah but supports won't swap ana for the hog. You see your tank getting anti over and over help us out and go Kiri.
@Jessespresso
@Jessespresso Ай бұрын
I'm a flex player and support is probably my most loved role with DPS being the close second. I personally love switching to help counter as I feel like I'm being super valuable to the team when I'm able to but I've also noticed when I'm playing tank that my supports rarely switch to help out. I wasn't sure whether it's just because tank is my least played and least skilled role so I'm playing with lower elo supports who aren't comfortable with counter swapping or not
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 Ай бұрын
I always swap supports to help the team.
@boinggerss1560
@boinggerss1560 Ай бұрын
Its always a mercy or life weaver being toxic in the chat afterwards too when they are just ass and awful and it’s qp and their heros aren’t good LW can be but he is pretty boring and doesn’t offer a lot of dps but mercy being literally the worst healer for about 3 seasons now and she is still picked every game by people who rage after we lose cause of that mercy pick but you know non aiming healers wanting people to aim makes sense, and they are always dying first as well as a mercy 😂
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
It's usually one tricks which is why I hate em yes I get you love your character but this is still a team game and if your pick isn't generating value it's more optimal to play someone else but otps refuse
@X19Virus
@X19Virus Ай бұрын
I'll swap but it fucking sucks. Hog = force ana = enemy team force kiri. It's so static and one dimensional. If they would just fucking gut Hog the way they gutted Orisa then maybe they could begin to bring problematic DPS and Supports more in line and maybe Sojourn or Kiri won't be meta for 2 years straight
@Shea_Fresh
@Shea_Fresh Ай бұрын
A low skill ability is Cass right clicking the tank.
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
😂
@button9
@button9 Ай бұрын
Yes, never use an ability when it’s the most effective.
@HReed-wk8dq
@HReed-wk8dq Ай бұрын
When the enemy widow is killing everyone, go sombra hard enough and window will swap every time
@button9
@button9 Ай бұрын
Definitely most of the time, though I get the occasional literal guards around their widow carry. I’ll face a 4 stack and the widow will stand in the middle (or very close to within short grapple distance) 3 people guarding her.
@kevinkalani
@kevinkalani Ай бұрын
For question #1, specifically for tanks, while it is possible for DPS to clear high ground, you have the most resources to do so. Don't think "this isn't my job" and just stay on the objective, many times clearing high ground IS your job. Secondly, it is better to use 2-5 ults per round than saving 1 ult for the most "high value" when really it's more valuable to have more ults per round. Some ults can turn team fights and swing all the momentum in your favor.
@morocuda2090
@morocuda2090 Ай бұрын
What if you're playing a character with no vertical mobitility?
@kevinkalani
@kevinkalani Ай бұрын
@morocuda2090 like Rein? Still take the time to do it at the beginning of the fight, but realistically if it's a very high ground dominant map that takes too long to get to as Rein or Sig or whoever, then you should be playing Winston or some other dive tank.
@gameliking
@gameliking Ай бұрын
The one of the person with the team that yelled at him for complementing the enemy is insane to me actually, homie needs to find some new friends lmfao
@StreetMisfit
@StreetMisfit Ай бұрын
KarQ, always appreciate your insight and cool demeanor when it comes to analytic takes
@aldine_KSP
@aldine_KSP Ай бұрын
Zen is a high as fuck skill hero
@morocuda2090
@morocuda2090 Ай бұрын
No he is not
@AdhvaithSane
@AdhvaithSane Ай бұрын
@@morocuda2090 Yes he is
@morocuda2090
@morocuda2090 Ай бұрын
@@AdhvaithSane n't
@michaeltaylor7160
@michaeltaylor7160 Ай бұрын
That one guy just needs new friends fr 💀💀
@Atsuru
@Atsuru Ай бұрын
18:25 that is actually amazing advice that I don't think I've seen anyone else give elsewhere. Lot's of people talk about ultimate tracking, but it's usually implied it comes through experience and gut feel. Going off of damage and healing numbers is a really interesting method that I don't know if I've seen explicitly stated before.
@simplycody370
@simplycody370 Ай бұрын
Literally that and if you are playing a mirror match up (ex: Soldier vs Soldier) I usually keep an eye on time and damage/heal numbers and my own ult to help be able to call out if i think ill get my ult first or i know they most likely have ult bc i im at 90% for mine but they have more damage and those few seconds and that warning to your team to be aware of that is more helpful than people think
@FatMCSteve
@FatMCSteve Ай бұрын
"How do I play JQ in Comp without getting yelled at?" You don't
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
Gotta be cracked out of your mind so your value shows itself
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
Sadly true. She is one of my tank mains and fun to play. I only swap if I absolutely have to off her.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 Ай бұрын
That is just playing tank in general, it is honestly miserable playing tank, even when you win
@Very_Okay
@Very_Okay Ай бұрын
i’m sure this has been said about Junker Queen’s shotgun spread already - but i’m saying it just in case. it has much farther range than you think, and “shoot the closest person” isn’t perfect advice if applied 100% of the time. Scattergun not a Reaper shotgun. it’s got a pretty tight spread, and falloff begins at 15 meters and ends at 25 meters as of Current Patch. if there’s a tank in your face and a squishy 10 meters behind them (or a big squishy 10-20 meters away) it may be the right play in that moment to look past the tank and shoot the squishy while holding the enemy tank’s aggro.
@FawXnSawX
@FawXnSawX Ай бұрын
The Winton jump advice came from a Flats video, as like, an offhand comment. The lost subtlety is its if you're jumping in just to poke and get out quick. Whether or not youll get shredded depends what is or isnt looking at you from the angle your kumping from
@mistersleep7
@mistersleep7 Ай бұрын
Legit didn't even realize these were getting posted on a 2nd channel. Subbed now 😅
@cooperbogdanski1579
@cooperbogdanski1579 Ай бұрын
So I was the skill/ no skill question (Zeranite) and I am really thankful for your answer!!! It really clears up a lot of things!!! I can also brag to my friends I’m on the cover of a KZbin video!!! Totally a new subscriber!!!
@extinctlibertine
@extinctlibertine Ай бұрын
That Fitzy impression was uncanny!
@Thudd224
@Thudd224 Ай бұрын
Here's my various questions. Why cant we have customizable ui. Having to glance way over to the corner mid fight is difficult sometimes. I just would like ti have my health bar, even a simplified one, between the crossairs and the ult charge indicator. Kiriko: why not give her kunai some damage fall off. This would be something to adjust her overall power without having to sacrifice how well her kit works. Reaper: how about firing a slug for his secondary fire. It could do 70-85% as much as a full spread of his normal shot, but with a single accurate projectile. This would positively reward good aim via the headshots and give him a tool to deal with things that are outside of his normal attack range. Mercy: is there any way we can have the self heal when healing allies with her cadeus staff fixed. Her movement is ok, it's her self sustain that needs work. Soldier 76: why can't we have the fire & reload while running. I know it was just an April fools thing, but it was the smoothest he has played, ever. Pharah: will you please give us the jet dive back. In tandem with the recent movement rework she received that ability made her so much more fun to play. Reinhardt: can we please get the speed boost on sheild shatter. The counterwatch (I think) version of Reinhardt sheild break is fantastic.
@faucher8
@faucher8 Ай бұрын
omg i just realized i wasn't subscribed. i've been watching videos on this channel for a long time. my bad man i'm subscribed now! love your work
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 Ай бұрын
Stat farming is a problem on the team i isually play with. My main Genji brute forces it and pulls off high damage numbers on the character. But he requires to be babysat for the whole game and drop resources into him. So he usually goes "why are we losing if i killed two?". Meanwhile the enemy team manages resources and beat us with only that. My usual supports almost always say "we need a shield", "we need more tanking/damage". Usually saying that the lost is not their fault, but the win is absolutely on them. "We won because we healed 17k." Meanwhile the tank is dying because they're pocketing the 4 times countered Genji and every nano-valk is dedicated to him. So yeah, the Genji will have high stats, but it will cost the match just for the amount of resources needed for him to farm them.
@sawah765
@sawah765 Ай бұрын
After the rank reset, I got placed plat and grinded back with brig 70% wr. I never got called braindead hero in master/GM but it was every other game in plat/dia. It's actually pretty hard to play brig against coordinated dive. She's supposed to counter it but you still have to do everything right
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
Agreed, as a fellow brig main. My worst is aerial, followed by Winton. Usually, dive I can handle somewhat besides him. Tracer and genji are annoying but more killable. Nice win rate. Mines like 55% or so but still a struggle to climb. Feels like many games I can't do anything to prevent some losses no matter how well I do or I gotta swap to Baptiste for reasons like aerial. However, that being said, even when I do well, it's such a mixed bag how the rest of my team might play so hard to get many win streaks or even be consistent for winning in general.
@Dfm25387
@Dfm25387 Ай бұрын
As a rein player I can say at gold and lower when I shatter my team just like stops playing the game 😂
@spookiboys
@spookiboys Ай бұрын
skill floor and also value floor/ceiling are things that can feel frustrating. if someone has a low skill floor but also can get more value than something that has a higher skill floor esp in low ranks, it feels bad. in high ranks the high skill ceiling characters tend to have high value ceilings too so you see those way more often
@RenbroNL
@RenbroNL Ай бұрын
To me this is the worst part of Overwatch. It's like the game has an identity crisis. A competitive game that is unwiling to do what is nessary to make it great out of fear of losing the people who rely on those heroes. Clearcut example is Moira having that locking beam. There is no reason it should not just be a regular beam. And I say that as someone who loves to play Moira.
@gentlemankaiju1997
@gentlemankaiju1997 Ай бұрын
I too watch coach Spilo lol
@Xfacta12482
@Xfacta12482 Ай бұрын
@@RenbroNL Hugely disagree. Not every hero should have the same skill/value floor/ceilings imo.
@RenbroNL
@RenbroNL Ай бұрын
@@Xfacta12482 I'm actually not saying that. Varied heroes both in skill requirements and playstyle is pretty much the core strength of Overwatch. However if you push it too far then things become problematic. So just talking (specific parts) of big offenders. Some offenders of getting too much value for doing too little are Moira's attack, Junkrats spam and Mercy on several levels. On the ability front Sombra's perma invisibilty is just a step too far. As was DPS Doomfirst.
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 25 күн бұрын
@@RenbroNL I think the biggest offender of low skill, high value for the longest time was Hanzo. People tend to say that he's a high skill ceiling hero with a lot of mechanics needed. I call bullshit. I literally used him in his one-shot era to clilmb from Bronze 2 to Plat 4. Guess what? There's when I really needed to actually aim, so I went from a Hanzo player into an Ashe main since now I can actually aim and have decent enough mechanics to use aim intensive heroes (such as hitscans, Echo, etc). Now I can't even play Hanzo because he's so boring to play. And yes, I even think he is easier to play than Junkrat. If you die from Junkrat spam, you can absolutely say you either have bad positioning or bad reaction times. His projectiles are that slow. But when you turn the corner and get deleted by an arrow from across the map that wasn’t even directed at you.... what can you really say? Oh, and I love the complains of most Hanzo mains that can't kill with just one arrow now saying: Now i need to hit two arrows in order to kill..... Well... yeah? Like most projectile heroes? Can't you aim that second arrow too? Weren't you that good when you needed one?
@TheBandoBandito
@TheBandoBandito Ай бұрын
I've been subbed because the side content is more interesting to me.
@MonkeyBanjo7
@MonkeyBanjo7 Ай бұрын
7:53 btw Karq do you recommend you have the setting of that you fire all the ofuda at once or have it that you can use a single one. I presume the latter so you can heal multiple targets with it but what I’ve found is that my healing uptime is to slow when I use the single ofuda one causing my team to die a lot.
@KarQives
@KarQives Ай бұрын
i have it where you use a single one
@MonkeyBanjo7
@MonkeyBanjo7 Ай бұрын
@@KarQives ah ok ty
@tylerstrizich727
@tylerstrizich727 Ай бұрын
i feel like for the first one i see this all the time is quit peaking the widow, so many games where the enemy widow is popping off and no one is playing around the fact that there is a good widow on the enemy team. one of the biggest ways to counterplay widow is to be aware of where she is and what her sightlines are and dont play within them. also very important to ping the widow everytime you see her so people can know where she is
@LXIXX
@LXIXX Ай бұрын
Should I even shield dance then, if their shooting the bubble should I try to migigate my bubble damage by taking damage or still shield dance
Ай бұрын
im a winton main and it doesnt happen very often but sometimes you can jump up above a building and you slow down on it and by the time you are on the ground you have jump back.
@satyre81
@satyre81 Ай бұрын
Now I need a video on which supports to compliment the tank.
@S85B50Engine
@S85B50Engine Ай бұрын
I'm kinda shocked how little people ping across all ranks. If the enemy team has a sniper, pinging where they are or what spot they are in is INVALUABLE for both avoiding her and contesting her. Some people don't seem to realize how much of an advantage knowing where the Widow is gives you when fighting her.
@xie_lex
@xie_lex Ай бұрын
i love this one: BREAK (lifeweaver) TREE
@Very_Okay
@Very_Okay Ай бұрын
not always viable ofc but yeah tree gets so much free value sometimes
@TTVFearlessFPS
@TTVFearlessFPS Ай бұрын
8:35 The literal first map I thought of was Lijiang Tower Control Center and I have no idea why. So many JQs will just shout out of spawn like it's a Lucio speed amp and it's such a waste of the ability.
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
😂
@natemyrick6373
@natemyrick6373 Ай бұрын
Ok ik you probably didnt see my last comment but this seems to help alot to me we can actually see everything and makes the video great.
@ryanelliott6706
@ryanelliott6706 Ай бұрын
I always face palm when I see 2 teammates ult at 45 seconds instead of saving them all for the final team fight.
@richdixon
@richdixon Ай бұрын
I complimented the other team after getting rolled; we couldn't get out of spawn. A player on my tram friended me after the game and I accepted absentmindedly. He followed me into my next match so he could spec chat my position and ult timer for the other team.
@Zathren
@Zathren Ай бұрын
If "no skill" heros were indeed crutches then everyone would use them to be in GM lobbies. But that's not the case, Brig hasn't been that OP in a long time. The reality is, people place higher value on some things than others. Rein is way easier to play compared to Doom, but people get mad at Doom players for feeding because he's so difficult to play well. But rarely get mad at Rein being a shield bot. Also keep in mind 80% of the player base don't know what each role's job is or how to do it properly. At the end of the day, just play the heros you have the most fun on and ignore the haters. Just try your best not to be a One Trick player.
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
Brig is still a lot of fun though.
@harveysmith6636
@harveysmith6636 Ай бұрын
I actually think Brig is pretty hard to play, she's one of the only supports I can't play as I find them really hard in terms of decision making.
@nonmagicalwitch
@nonmagicalwitch Ай бұрын
People put way too much emphasis on skill levels of certain heroes. I 100% agree that certain heroes are easier to pick up, easier to do well with, etc. Junk is easy to pick up, but mastering him is very difficult, while some heroes have a higher entry barrier, but once you got past that, the hero might as well be just as easy to play. I say that as both a Moira and an Echo main, who are widely considered to be close to both extremes of the spectrum. The important part will always be the player piloting the hero, not the hero itself. And every hero has different things to consider, different ways to approach the game in general. This is true to high skill heroes as well as to low skill heroes. Moira and Mercy have a lot of movement tech. Reaper needs to track enemies cds almost as much as the tank. Soldier needs a lot of positional awareness due to his offangle playstyle. And while some heroes don't have high tech barriers, the playstyle and gamesense of the player are always more important.
@hartyewh1
@hartyewh1 Ай бұрын
Show me all those top 500 no-skill one tricks and I'll think you have a point. Game sense being almost half of the game makes every character a skill character to a meaningful extent. I know the plat Genjis get deeply upset getting outplayed by a Moira, but that is and was a legit skill diff😂
@fusehoundow
@fusehoundow 7 күн бұрын
on console the interact button is the left thumb stick
@TheKing0fBacon
@TheKing0fBacon Ай бұрын
i had a game where my supps only healed our tank, and when we lost me and the other dps got flamed even though it was absolutely the supps fault, but they had good healing stats bc they were healing the tank 24 7
@aSuperPi.
@aSuperPi. Ай бұрын
8:50 I think your tip here is a little outdated since she got a 3 second cooldown reduction in the mid season patch so it’s a lot better to shout out of spawn now.
@Very_Okay
@Very_Okay Ай бұрын
the map he mentioned is still potentially unsafe to shout tho if i’m not mistaken. when i shout out of spawn on control center or any nepal map or whatever, you can be a few seconds into the first fight with 2-3 seconds left on cooldown; and shout being up or down can be the difference between a won or lost engage. especially if you have a lucio it’s prolly best to just hold onto it.
@ConspiracyCinema
@ConspiracyCinema Ай бұрын
I subbed mr Q even with your support bias 😈
@squeegie
@squeegie Ай бұрын
"No skills" seems like an odd saying. I am by no means an expert nor do I think I am amazing at the game, but I normally get to low masters in every season (That being said I haven't played ranked in 3 seasons now, but it's not important for my take). I think every heroes require different set of "skills". I can climb to masters in every role dps, tank and support. All these heroes people consider "No Skill" perhaps is easier(?) to play, but by no means I think they take no skill what so ever. Let's take Mercy for example. I can play heroes like Bap, Ana, Moira quite well, but for the life of me play Mercy perfectly. I don't think I am bad at Mercy, but when I see someone playing Mercy really well I can see I am lacking in some kind of 900 IQ Mercy way of thinking.
@plaguepix3l
@plaguepix3l Ай бұрын
What earphones do you use?
@MorbidOW2
@MorbidOW2 Ай бұрын
on console the interact binding is R3
@breakfaith3031
@breakfaith3031 Ай бұрын
I'm probably not gonna watch this video at the moment but I'll probably come back to it later. I just wanted to say that I read the title and my first thought was just "Mauga"
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
I mean even Mauga you can't just play 24/7 and win constantly you still have to learn when and where to use his abilities and manage how much aggression you can output without feeding
@breakfaith3031
@breakfaith3031 Ай бұрын
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 I know, he's just always the first hero that pops into my head when it comes to poorly designed ones.
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
@@breakfaith3031 I feel like he isn't poorly designed tho I think it's actually the opposite he is 110% an ow2 hero so he has everything a tank in ow2 needs to exist, these are the kinda tanks we get in ow2 because they need a lot to function effectively and mauga covers all those bases Literally one of the most flexible tanks and that's what makes him so annoying But he is optimally designed to be a solo tank
@ethancraven8422
@ethancraven8422 Ай бұрын
honestly I am a big advocate of shooting the tank. The amount of DPS in the game way outpaces what most tanks can handle. This does not apply to the top 3 tanks (Hog, Hoarse, Mauga) but with almost anything else you should just pressure him out. Is this a hot take?
@Mickeyshere
@Mickeyshere Ай бұрын
This is a pretty cold take. Outside of 1, the Horse being a top 3 tank is a crazy hot take this current patch
@ethancraven8422
@ethancraven8422 Ай бұрын
@@Mickeyshere idk I feel like playing against horse is still miserable, 😞
@hillwoop9101
@hillwoop9101 Ай бұрын
Yeah bro keep doing that and see what happens
@FawXnSawX
@FawXnSawX Ай бұрын
The real answer is what comp vs what tank? Some comps can shoot a ball all day and he'll never die while occupying your entire teams attention while his team deletes yours. Other comps just make a Reinhardt unable to exist and he's just an easy pick if he ever has the audacity to try and use his hammer.
@damuzx8590
@damuzx8590 Ай бұрын
He’s lowkey right, somewhere in the middle ranks people think target acquisition on squishies is more important but at the lowest and very highest ranks that is indeed the strat
@SilenceAtMidnight
@SilenceAtMidnight Ай бұрын
The skill required for a hero usually resides in the difference between the skill floor and skill ceiling, moira being arguably the most skill-less hero in the game. A t500 moira and a gold moira will have little difference besides who lives a couple seconds longer or who chose the right orb. Where as for a hero like widow, the difference couldn't be any more apparent, just grapple tech alone on widow far exceeds anything moira's kit has to offer.
@wizdroid5210
@wizdroid5210 Ай бұрын
As a LW main every time I see the enemy winton bubble I raise it up away from them with petal. BAD winton, NO bubble. 😂
@davidchang905
@davidchang905 Ай бұрын
It works like that? More reason to hate on LW 😢
@wizdroid5210
@wizdroid5210 Ай бұрын
@@davidchang905 no….. it doesn’t…… I said nothing.
@saviourly3186
@saviourly3186 Ай бұрын
The most annoying thing in low elo, is people think trickling is ALWAYS bad. It's not. If your team has the control point, you SHOULD TRICKLE until you reach 99% then reset for a final (hopefully final) team fight
@thedoctor6798
@thedoctor6798 Ай бұрын
Huh
@saviourly3186
@saviourly3186 Ай бұрын
@@thedoctor6798 the point of king of the hill (the game type where you capture one point) is to reach 100% before the enemy. If you have the point it's better to infinitely die on point extending the time you have control of the point until you have 99%. When you have 99% you stop trickling in and regroup. When you fight and win, the enemy won't be able to retake because you only need 1%. If you fight and lose, you have more fights because the enemy won't be at 99%.
@ZoneOutWay2
@ZoneOutWay2 Ай бұрын
L yap
@DevilzBeast
@DevilzBeast Ай бұрын
Subbed
@double__4640
@double__4640 Ай бұрын
I liked, subbed, commented and clicked the share button and copied url to clipboard (i heard that helps) wish you well karQ
@_mitchell.official6619
@_mitchell.official6619 Ай бұрын
I thought it was 5 seconds for this one 2:55
@Exterminator19861
@Exterminator19861 Ай бұрын
what makes hero unskilled ?easy answer - instaled cheats .
@gordenweb
@gordenweb Ай бұрын
It would be nice if people had their setting where they can see teammates through walls.
@gentlemankaiju1997
@gentlemankaiju1997 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't compliment the enemy team anyway cause it can come off as sarcastic and you'll get reported and knowing blizz they'll jump on that instead of real chat issues.
@danewoods2549
@danewoods2549 Ай бұрын
The changing spawn rooms sometimes doesn't work- Or is that just me??
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
There is a timing window to it I think.
@Shrimp4Gura
@Shrimp4Gura Ай бұрын
4:34 i answered this post, and I'll say it here: 3 people on the push bot doesnt make it go faster!
@button9
@button9 Ай бұрын
I flip out when I see our tank just hanging out on cart or bot when we just had a team kill - I’ll push up to get ready for the next fight and look back and our tank (and usually everyone else) just hanging out. I play zen sometimes and I’ll just push up solo to see if it’ll get people off their butts - sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Hate players that aren’t proactive.
@SubatomiC_119
@SubatomiC_119 Ай бұрын
Ok but the scientific name for chickens is cool/funny it's GALLUS GALLUS DOMESTICUS
@jezraelflancia2460
@jezraelflancia2460 Ай бұрын
The worst piece of advice/game knowledge is that this is an objective game. Yes this game has objectives, but you have to kill people first then get the objective. Only in like ot where objective like truly truly matters, otherwise, your mindset should just be “how can I win this next teamfight”
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 Ай бұрын
bap healing and shooting at same time is often how you get past break points, but yeah.....erm....
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 Ай бұрын
I love watching my team strafe back and forth constantly when it's like a 1on5....would be nice if you actually stopped moving so we could just get the easy clutch but ya I understand its all about you staying alive so dance away, even when no ones looking....and make sure to crush your team with you're respawn while they are in conflict...lower medal ranks is like watching a chicken fight.
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 Ай бұрын
lots of wasted movements....hopes...
@lootbaglu
@lootbaglu Ай бұрын
14:47 idc care about the repercussions of complimenting the enemy, if someone sauced on me, i type NS on reaction
@NightcoreNewbie
@NightcoreNewbie Ай бұрын
There's no such thing as a no skill hero. It's always the player controlling the hero, not the hero itself. There are games where a sombra/widow/sojourn will dominate the game and the next one they just suck or the mercy who just sits behind a wall the whole time heal botting vs the mercy who does all the crazy flying strafe techniques.
@richardx1157
@richardx1157 Ай бұрын
That 5 stack the dude was playing with sounds horrible
@button9
@button9 Ай бұрын
Stats watchers are the absolute worst. Yes, it can sorta give you a clue where things may be lacking at times but I’d rather a zen be discording and shooting with less heals than a Lucio just hanging out heal farming or a heal pylon mercy. Calling out someone’s damage or heals (unless it’s like SUPER LOW like in the hundreds after 5 minutes of play) is just silly. I also find it funny that people do this like they’ve never had a bad game ever.
@thomasshi7717
@thomasshi7717 Ай бұрын
a hero taking NO SKILL?? MMMAAUUGGGAAAA
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
I mean sorta? If this was really the case and he was that good youd see people all flooding into champ rank and T500 only playing mauga buy hes not the most common tank to see on there plus even checking the stats mauga has a below 50% win rate until you hit Master and Grand Master so he only goes positive when you get higher in skill and rank but even then characters like Winston, hog, orisa, or even sig are far more common to see even in the T500 leaderboards
@ImHaise
@ImHaise Ай бұрын
​@@sebastianrodriguez8992 I mean not anymore u right and he still has skill expression but it's like, metro was rank 10 during mauga meta
@sebastianrodriguez8992
@sebastianrodriguez8992 Ай бұрын
@@ImHaise ja his Meta was definitely awful but he hasn't been like that for a while and honestly has been on a decline ever since, extra health, armor changes, DPS passive back up and bro hasn't gotten a single buff hell he even got a nerf that took 25 hp from him as an extra F you
@thomasshi7717
@thomasshi7717 Ай бұрын
@@sebastianrodriguez8992 Not really trying to say if he is good or not in rank, just feel like he is just so brute-force to play and a bit boring lol.
@void_cozmo5424
@void_cozmo5424 Ай бұрын
32 minutes with 789 views damn
@mixalisxalaris9673
@mixalisxalaris9673 Ай бұрын
bro for tank if u thinking to start playing tank u sould be able to flex there no way around it
@jahkareramkissoon419
@jahkareramkissoon419 Ай бұрын
Man i hate the eva 8 bruh
@TgPepper
@TgPepper Ай бұрын
I have subscribed, tbh I thought I was subscribed
@EvanOfTheDarkness
@EvanOfTheDarkness Ай бұрын
No skill heroes are heroes, that you can play in a cheap and lazy way, and get 100% underserved value for your team. Examples, are: - Junkrat chugging grenades at a wall, and getting free kills with it - Soldier/Bastion holding left lick to win - Moira holding right click behind the tank - Hanzo spamming E, and getting random headshots. "No skill" heroes can (of course) also be played in a very skillful manner, and you wouldn't flame them then. But when you see them playing in this lazy manner, feel free to call them out. You are _almost_ doing a favour to them: they need to realize that they are not challenging themselves, before they can improve their play.
@goodbankie
@goodbankie Ай бұрын
500 views in 25 mins damn
@zsedforty
@zsedforty Ай бұрын
Every single hero has the same Skill Floor.. and that's staying AFK in spawn. HOWEVER, a *High skill-floor* is a hero like Mercy. Not requiring too much effort to gain moderate value.
@tyconnolly
@tyconnolly Ай бұрын
NGl and I know it’s toxic haha I don’t say it but I have a small amount of hatred for the people who say hope everyone has fun or something 😂 it’s like my brain just hears like a diva in my head like spiting on them or something 😂idk why I’m broken like this I know they just wanna have fun hahahahaha
@Kinze02
@Kinze02 Ай бұрын
Moira
@castxdiamondx8821
@castxdiamondx8821 Ай бұрын
Returning ow 1 players😂😂😂😂😂
@purplezeppelin6583
@purplezeppelin6583 Ай бұрын
Please subscribe to this man, he constantly puts in the work and his content is top tier. 👆👆👆
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 Ай бұрын
The truth is all heroes take some skills nobody dominated a lobby with 0 skill. If they lit you up, they have skill. Also about complementing the other team… I agree… stop canoodling with the enemy lol
@xLostInTheCrowdx
@xLostInTheCrowdx Ай бұрын
Kids/Young Adults/Middlings don't care about good sportsmanship anymore. Either that, or they were never taught. Both options are less than ideal.
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 Ай бұрын
first off the stats are fake, just like the game. Work on making yourself better, the only real stat that matters. match makers is going to keep you at a 50/50 win/loss ratio anyways.
@stinky-toe15676
@stinky-toe15676 Ай бұрын
Lol the OP for the no skill question saying they play venture to try to get away from the low skill heroes is funny. Venture themselves is a low to no-skill hero....
@UnrebornMortuus
@UnrebornMortuus Ай бұрын
Symmetras removed laser is no skill. Moira, aka Sombra but with heals instead of hakcs and a huge aoe bouncey orb insttead of virus, with Symmetras old laser with longer range. That's what makes no skill when that hero is over tuned and in every lobby in every RANK REMOVE IT NOWWWWWWW AAAAAAAHGHHH they think crap like moira gives player retention-- sure maybe for a few lesser skilled players but then other people have to vs that shit and will just quit. i know, because i LITERALLY quit overwatch 1 until i heard symmetra got her laser removed/reworked to not be auto aim. im about to go play marvel rivals until moiras gone low skill floor low skill ceiling is no skill mercy is low skill in an acceptable way because she doesnt out dps soldier and out heal mercy the guys squad was annoying idiots but the gg/gr thing is PTSD from it being used as a unbannable way to say diff im better than you loser when its a clear stomp with hackers/smurfs
@Iscoileachme
@Iscoileachme Ай бұрын
Bro, moira, just like any character, can be dealt with in many ways (mainly movement/tracking). If YOU cant' kill her/make her go away, than I'm sorry but the reality is that your skill is worse than said Moira's. So you're lower skill than a low-skill hero, that's the most logical conclusion from your own words lol.
@MonkeyBanjo7
@MonkeyBanjo7 Ай бұрын
7:53 btw Karq do you recommend you have the setting of that you fire all the ofuda at once or have it that you can use a single one. I presume the latter so you can heal multiple targets with it but what I’ve found is that my healing uptime is to slow when I use the single ofuda one.
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
Agreed. It feels not quite the same and slower for sure too.
@MonkeyBanjo7
@MonkeyBanjo7 Ай бұрын
@@ianchambers37 karq responded on I guess a different comment (I guess i write it twice) but he said that he uses the single ofuda one.
@ianchambers37
@ianchambers37 Ай бұрын
@MonkeyBanjo7 ah. Thanks. I've been trying the single. You can hold down the button to shoot more but it does feel weird compared to the other version however maybe just not used to it.
@MonkeyBanjo7
@MonkeyBanjo7 Ай бұрын
@@ianchambers37 yeah, I play on console so I’ve been also finding it weird
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