THIS is how the pros build their ults | OW2 Reddit Questions #37

Here we go again, KarQ is back at it again, answering questions on /r/OverwatchUniversity.
Definitely inspired by WIRED's Tech Support.
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00:00 - Intro
00:17 - Why does my IQ drop every time I play DPS/Damage?
03:46 - Am I the only one who thinks complaining about the tank role is getting too excessive?
07:41 - I'm so confused why people think you can just immediately rank up within a short amount of time
11:06 - How do competitive players build their ultimate so quickly?
12:22 - How do I use Soldier's ult
15:53 - What is actually going through your head every game?
18:57 - How do you play & get value out of Brigitte?
23:12 - What support hero should a Cassidy main look into playing?
23:53 - Should I switch heroes even if I'm close to my ultimate?
25:30 - How to properly heal on Moira?
27:28 - Outro
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[@misterbigness5957]

I think something you didn't touch on with tanks playing DPS is the fact he's not used to having 250 hp. I notice a lot of tanks that play DPS just don't understand their breakpoints and are used to the team being more focused on helping them, thus they end up 0-5 peaking a corner that wouldn't have killed them in their normal role. Moreover aiming when you're under threat of dying is much harder than playing ball or dva with get out of jail free cards

[@Shea_Fresh]

This is absolutely it for me as a Tank player. I Frontline, that's why I tank. As a squishy I step out of position and get punished for peaking too long. I've started getting to the habit of ducking behind cover once I get shot at, or before half health, just to try and stay alive longer. But sometimes I feel I'm not contributing enough in that style.

[@boataccident1492]

if it goes on CD it isnt free

[@MyCommentsRMaturelol]

Movement is huge with the transition

[@KarQ]

Good shout, agreed

[@ForbidenXShadow]

Movement is more important on dps bc of the smaller hit box allows you to dodge shots

[@therebelfrogy9287]

They seriously need to add a permanent effect to tell the player that the Inspire Passive is on (on the UI with small flag icon or on her mace). The little "PUFFF" light barely noticeable and in the middle of the adrenaline rush it's even worst

[@waverazor]

More visual clutter?? OH BROTHER

[@swagglesworth33]

@@waverazor it's needed for brig's inspire, like they could just make the player portrait glow with little healing signs or something. even people that play brig, like the person in the video, don't fully know how her healing works. i've been playing overwatch for a long time and had no idea that there was even a little light on brig that tells you when she activates it, because it's that unnoticible

[@AdhvaithSane]

THIS!

[@saviourly3186]

One big moira tip for managing or regaining heal juice, if you spam the succ instead of holding it you regain heals a lot faster

[@prestonmitchell9135]

It does lower DPS though so use sparingly

[@mateusz5872]

​@@prestonmitchell9135 moira's dps is insignificant anyway

[@ricocarpenter2189]

​@mateusz5872 it's not insignificant. It's not the highest but it's definitely reliable enough to secure kills with. If her damage was insignificant dps Moira wouldn't even be a slightly viable strategy.

[@AndrewDH7]

Just don’t play as Moira

[@swagglesworth33]

binding it to scrollwheel helps spam faster without hurting your fingers/hands, it sounds kind of goofy with the mythic though

[@Dr3am9553]

Something you missed with pros building support ults is that most teams understand the win con and will let 1 support do a majority of the healing rather than spliting resources. Where the second support is more pressure and utility based. Since nano, kitsune, beat, and rally can all be "tempo" ults

[@aggrogahu]

1:52 I would say it's a difference of positioning, because tracking enemies while in the front line (where tanks usually are) is going to be a slightly different skill than tracking enemies at range, where Solider is usually, while dealing with recoil.

[@kielmessersmith1956]

For those Moira healers, dont underestimate the heal over time her main heal provides. Instead of holding down her main heal, use it in short bursts. If you need burst heals, toss a Heal orb first and try to spray as many of your teammates as possible with those short bursts. This will minimize the recharging your primary heal needs, and help assure you have more when you need to hold the button down if someone gets focused. Remember also that her damage orb will help recharge your heal so in moments of low heal demand, toss damage orbs at the enemy backline, to drain their resources wyle charging your own.

[@ThePB77]

They’re moira players……they don’t heal

[@elisecastor5534]

25:47 T500 Moira main here. Rapidly tap healing while swinging your camera to proc healing everyone close to you. Super important to get that initial burst (I like to do this even if ally is at full health! They might take damage in the near future and this effectively gives them a bit extra hp). Only hold healing if your target is getting super focused, but otherwise, damage + tap heal as necessary. Between choosing damage and healing, I almost always lean towards damage if enemy healers are single target or low in healing numbers (Ana, Bap, or enemy support is not healing target), and heal a bit more if they’re AoE, super high heal numbers, or pocketing the target (pocket mercy, bap, Lucio, LW, Moira mirror)

[@dukeyxxyz]

I actually feel the same about the tank role. I flex a ton so i get a good mix of everything and I think thays what keeps me from getting too upset about it, but I actually have a lot of fun with it most of the time. I'm pretty much a winston main now and i see the counters all the time, but i usually still try to play it out for a bit and see if i can find a weak poiny in their team. For instance if i see they swapped to reaper i start playing more and more off angles to try and bait out his TP and as soon as i see him use I jump away so that hes not getting any value. Main thing is if they go the full anti winton comp thats when i swap. I think the main thing is finding multiple tanks you enjoy that fill different roles so that if you have to make a swap you are at least having some fun with it.

[@trevorsteadman1322]

That second point is how people get better at the game. Not everything will be going in your way and chances are there will be 2 counters on the enemy team at a given point. Doesn’t mean you can’t still outplay them. Learning how to play around obstacles instead of finding the easiest way long term will help you rank up.

[@Chmmr]

something important for gaining ult charge: you gain ult charge for healing an ally or yourself with abilities, but you do not gain ult charge for healing with passives or health packs. so if you can safely do so, healing with self-heal abilities or going to your supports will generate more ult charge for the you or the supports rather than using a health pack or waiting for the new healing passive so for example i main weaver, and if i take stray damage ill usually just use my dash to give me the 3-4% extra ult charge from self healing rather than waiting for passive heal to do it without ult charge. it basically gives me the ult charge one charged heal blossom faster each time i do that, so if i do that 3 times during a team fight that's basically a 7-8 second boost towards getting tree. might not seem like a lot but it adds up and can be the difference maker!

[@BiscuitMan14]

Love these videos, KarQ; but you're killing me with the light mode on reddit.

[@KarQ]

I LOVE LIGHTMODE

[@runaway74]

​@@KarQ aight kark this one's going in the next Hot Takes

[@AdhvaithSane]

@@KarQ Have you at least *tried* Dark mode?

[@elisecastor5534]

26:36 T500 Moira main here. Rapidly tap healing while swinging your camera to proc healing everyone close to you. Super important to get that initial burst (even if they’re at full health!). Only hold healing if your target is getting super focused, but otherwise, damage + tap heal

[@TooRiskyHD]

The thing I don’t get tho when my tank is being hyper focused I’m trying to heal him but it’s never good anymore compared to previous szns. The 1 thing that does work is heal orb and spray but even then it’s not a guarantee to save them idk if this is because the tank is in a bad position or it’s just me and I’ve noticed my ping has been high recently compared to normal so when I’m trying to heal while my pings going up it’s like my heals don’t register properly. Since the last mid szn patch feels like Moiras been secretly nerfed when it comes to healing on console Edit : it’s not my internet to as I’ve done multiple tests and my end is fine, I think it might be the servers

[@Thudd224]

That moira explanation made a lot of sense. Thank you. I was always struggling with why her sprays behaved the way they did.

[@aSuperPi.]

1:51 I think the actual problem is the ranges you play those heroes at. They can track on Mauga and ball because you shoot on the heroes at very close ranges but on solider 76 you have to keep your distance.

[@thedog5k]

1:42 Hitting body shots point blank on a slammed target is way easier than tracking heads at mid range with 76 recoil.

[@TheBandoBandito]

Appreciate the brig advice.

[@booarb]

26:36 something I've noticed is that Moira players just spray their heal and don't tap it and use it as a passive heal for your team while you suck and get healing resource back. I tend to use her the same way I do brig where I use my spray to give a passive heal effect for the dps while we push together or protect the other support by giving them crazy passive healing. And if I can't reach the support or dps (depending on who I'm with) I throw heal orb and just hope it gets to them in time and it works fairly often to play like that. It also makes Moira gameplay feel more interactive and valuable instead of just walking at my teammates, spraying all of my heals, and then fading away.

[@ginpachi1]

2nd time he’s told us to autopilot while driving 😂

[@mateusz5872]

Thats how you drive basically

[@Mitchel6489]

I feel the first question, its his recoil. Having to track on top of maintain the recoil is like an extra step in the effort.

[@yoyocherio]

For the moira person I would say that they’re probably only healing people when they’re critical so it feels like they can never keep anyone up because they’re trying to fight against the dps of the enemy shooting them, but if they started healing throughout the fight then they would be much better off

[@jonsnow4005]

@leccency try using Cass. Very good to transfer from rank/support to dps. Take your time to hit your shots, and you'll pick it up pretty quick. This is coming from a rein Orisa tank and ana Lifeweaver supp.

[@demonznmysleep9474]

27:20 is wild 😂

[@Flash_Flood]

7:15 What is your favorite NBA team?

[@KarQives]

toronto raptors

[@RubinSmith-pe5jp]

What if they add an additional role to fix the tank role. Currently the tank role is a counter swap kinda dread. So what if they add another roll to overwatch that some how doesn’t make the screen or game cluttered or chaotic but helps the team

[@TgPepper]

As a Hammond main… Soldier and Hammond are not the same. Even in Apex it’s like switching to a gun with a different recoil patterns and a different effective range. You are fundamentally moving your crosshair at a different speed when going from closer ranged heroes like, most tanks. To more of the midrange heroes such as Soldier 76 or Soujorn.

[@texsarc5861]

Wait, there are people getting approaching 20% per win? I'm getting 11-13% for each win in bronze at DPS. This made me depressed.

[@ianchambers37]

I've found it varies a lot. Sometimes between like 0% and 25%. Uses to be crazy like up to 40% or so which for losses would wipe out two wins. Luckily they have changed it somewhat and feels better. The uphill or expected attachments do feel random sometimes and can effect things as well as does demotion protection etc. Also narrow groups get more than wide groups for a few reasons.

[@overratedfool6900]

You're getting 11%? I'm guessing there's a modifier based on how often you play, and you play 10 hours a day?

[@ianchambers37]

@overratedfool6900 I thought it was just wins and losses. It is dumb they give more loss modifiers lol. Technically one is both either win or loss however overall loss has one extra one which is lame. Should be even I think with losses, not adding to losses.

[@overratedfool6900]

@@ianchambers37 They won't have more modifier types for losses than for wins. That doesn't make any sense. Actually I'm not sure I even read your previous comment before. They've never given out 40% for a loss, at a time when a win would've given you 20%. You're getting confused by demotion protection I think. I think you're getting confused about a few things to be honest. All I was saying is there there might be a frequency modifier. I know of several ranking systems that use this where if you play less frequently, your rank moves more (in either direction obviously) per result and vice versa. I was just trying to come up with an explanation as to why somebody might only move 11-13%, when I move by ~20% every game.

[@ianchambers37]

@overratedfool6900 last season, when they did the reset, etc, and changed it, the modifiers could escalate the losses up higher if you got on a streak. I had a few games of getting losses that high 40% due to an unlucky losing streak. Also, I counted the modifiers, and there was one extra for losses, but it was situational. It is possible they might have such a modifier, but it's not listed among the ones they show on the screen in the game. I've also had games where I've gotten as low as 0 to 6% due to wide games for wins and such, lol.

[@judopunch2672]

Hitscan/tracking have variable difficulty's. Mauga/wrekingball/Zarya tracking = close range, dps heros usually engage at at least twice that range, and can not trade 'life' for damage because they cant forsake movement/positioning for damage/aim because they will die.

[@sorin_markov]

The pros also coordinate who heals to try and build ults faster. Having Ana build nano to 100% and Lucio just 50% to beat is way more impactful than having both on 75%, so a lot of the time pros will have only one support heal at a time during the poke phase of first fight. Obv that's hard to coordinate in ranked

[@AdhvaithSane]

Agreed💯. *But I want expand on that and point out a very small yet important thing many people may not realize in relation to coordination* (in high-level play anyways), *that is the fact that* (and I will assume a specific scenario here) *a poke comp vs a dive comp, depending on the map.. you can not only bait those ults the poking team are building easier by intentionally feeding* _(without dying at the start)_ *but also you can* (Again. Depending on the map) make those same ults work in the map AGAINST the enemy team resulting in either they’re c9 or exposure between their frontline and the backline to allow the diving team to separate the poking team and quite literally slicing them in half to win them the game in such an unbelievable yet a logical way.*

[@addicted2myxbox]

I relate so much to the first one. I’m nearly diamond on support and tank and can’t get out of high gold with damage. I got to platinum for a tiny bit, but not long.

[@joshuam7818]

Dps is the hardest role in the game

[@thisistheescapeplan]

My tracking on tanks is amazing... but once I go like soldier or cass... it's nonexistent. But for some reason my ashe just pops. Idk. I'm weird.

[@zachdl1]

Why do pros build ults fast? To elaborate on karq's point, because pros are doing so much damage, the supports on the other side have more opportunities to heal. They're able to take advantage of more of these opportunities than anyone else. Which in turn, makes the average amount of damage needed to be done in order to confirm an elim higher, which in turn builds dps ults faster. Also, every fight is a team fight. So you're either going crazy pumping out all the damage and healing possible, or you're dead. This fight efficiency also leads to faster ults. There's probably more reasons as well, bit those are the ones I thought worth mentioning

[@fettbub92]

Partly why you would struggle on soldier compared to mauga is soldier has muzzle climb. Best way to work on that is practice. Also, the damage role plays similar to tank and support. Its similar to tank, in that you want to be proactive with plays, and look for people to pressure or punish. Its similar to support in the fact that you have a small health pool. Play your life, and punish mistakes. Use that game sense.

[@hartyewh1]

Tank is fine in plat and below where people don't capitalize on every opportunity or work together well. I can imagine it can be pretty bad in a higher elo. I see when tanks over extend or otherwise screw up and get deleted in a second, but that doesn't happen systematically.

[@jessiereyes813]

Hot topic: people don’t pay attention to the kill cam enough. You can see your opponents cooldowns AND ult charge. I try to communicate that to my team but surprise other people done.

[@waterrr6332]

One time I typed in chat that their Ana had Nano during overtime and my entire team immediately jumped her so their Genji had to blade without Nano and we won. I don't usually watch killcams since I have a habit of skipping them but luckily I didn't

[@mariacruza756]

I also understand the frustrations of Tanking, but I also feel this way about some streamers. I love Flats, but omg, I get depressed every time I was his videos now. Bogur is falling into that category as well.

[@KetchumUnderarock]

What that guy said about flats is so true

[@Muggalomaniac]

What a lucky guy! His IQ only drops when he queues up as dps. Mine drops the moment I open the menu.

[@thesquirtlesquad8446]

6:50 Honestly it isn’t as much the gameplay of tank but the environment. More times than not if you get countered and try to swap, but doesnt work, you get flamed by the teammates that won’t swap to help. People don’t play the compositions and that usually is the harder part about tank. Your team should work as a cohesive unit ( somewhat ) in regards to the goal or win con of the team comp. Damage having the deepest hero pool should trend to swap more often than they do now and I think that would help out the tanks on your team. They complain because they need some damn help out there. Work together and have good games!

[@kami_97]

5v5 was the worst thing made for tanks. It's the only role that don't have a cover and no other role can do that. Like, if my dps is trash i can play illari or zen. If my sup is trash i can play mei, soldier or reaper. If my tank is trash that is it GG. Also the tank experiencia is: Pick the one you like, play for 1min, get counterswaped and exploded, counterswap, repeat.

[@filthyneutral5801]

Biggest issue for me is when I play tank and get countered but my team doesn't swap to help against counter

[@kami_97]

@@filthyneutral5801 The thing is, most of the times if the tank don't swap they don't create space for the team to help even if the team swap. We have to remember that we don't play OW and even on high master/low gm (where i play) it happens. Imagine how it work for the metal ranks.

[@victortestacarlini]

Not being good at tracking with Soldier but being good with Ball or Mauga seems to me like a hero position/playstyle thing, not an aim thing. Aiming with Ball is mostly a follow-up to a piledriver or just poking randomly and Mauga is either a low damage poke with only one gun or a high-spread "spray-and-pray" in close combat. Soldier on the other hand wants stable and fairly safe high ground to do consistent damage (and missle bursts). There's also the added pressure to dmg/elim from a dps vs the job of Ball to roam around creating oportunities for dmg or Mauga to soakup frontline damage and pressure back with raw physical presence. Didn't even account for things like the spread on Ball/Mauga vs recoil on Soldier, or the fact that tanks have way more HP (which enables them to calmly track their aim for longer). Tl;Dr.: Yes, they're all tracking-based heroes on their weapon. No, they're NOTHING alike and trying to use Soldier thinking as a Ball is probably why the good tank skills don't convert to good dps skills. Maybe trying Mei as a dps would be nice, she works with the fundamentals of tanks in a sense.

[@FlipHybrid]

wait doesnt the game give you ULT charge for using abilities aside from damage or healing? Say immort, sleepdart, blocking damage, cleansing etc?

[@thefatefish]

Nope, just damage and healing. And it has to be damage/ healing to a player. Damage to deployables or barriers don't count

[@trentonthomas3127]

YOOOOO that statement about flats is sooooo true ive quit watching him entirely because of it but yoube still tries to force him into my algo even tho im unsubscribed and subscribed to emongg

[@hartyewh1]

I play a lot of Moira and didn't know about the doppler healing. Ffs!😂

[@heartcoma]

Maining Illari & zen is probably why I'm decent at damage hereos

[@zombieskittlesgaming]

15%-22%? I'm getting 4%-5%for wins and 6%-8% for losses in bronze 4. I feel so defeated to win a game, get my 4% and then next game get a leaver and go down 8%.

[@zombieskittlesgaming]

Just to prove a further point, My boyfriend just got bronze 3 when we decided to only duo while I was low bronze 4. He's now bronze 2 and halfway to bronze 1. Penny the exact same amount of games, exact same win loss ratio, but I'm still bronze 4

[@ggolden]

tbh as a dps being specifically below 241 hp is basically low hp

[@FlipHybrid]

bro I can so relate to the 1st question!!! I'm a trash plat tank, gold support... don't ask my dps rank pls

[@user-ov2fc5sd1e]

"shooting people whenever they're on the screen" lol such a caveman level phrase

[@BrambleJam]

I've got 2 hot takes and 1 observation: 1) Rein dash shouldn't travel further with an enemy captured than it does without, or at least only a *very short* distance. 2) Comp should have a ban function where every player chooses one char from every class, or two from dps, and the most selected gets locked out for the duration. A) I hear so much about how tanks are the worst/least fun class to play, but when i role queue as any, 9/10 games end up with my playing support

[@alexander2019.]

Don’t touch Reinhardt charge if they won’t fix it. They already nerfed the one shot on his pin, can’t 2 fire strike squishy, and his charge boops more than it pins. Leave his pin alone it’s already a pos and it can be canceled so why make it last shorter?

[@itsOZone]

bans are terrible for the game, it just makes counters even more powerful and people are gunna flame whoever is banning if they dont make the meta pick. it also comes down to certain abilities(anti-heal) having only like 2 characters that can cleanse the effect. i dont think there should be hard counters in the game, but removing more counterplay is not the direction we need to go in.

[@tbagger5211]

It is I’m Trying to play ball and I notice everyone switches to brig ana sombra it’s crazy lol

[@DNYLNY]

4:00 Tanks are meta in open queue even with less HP. Anyone complaining about tank is just playing the wrong mode.

[@Skatche]

No mystery. Soldier has recoil; Ball and Mauga do not.

[@trevorsteadman1322]

People really need to learn the CoD tap fire as ranges get further… can’t always just hold down the button

[@Mel_0-0]

“How do higher elo players get their ult faster?” Simple they hit their shots

[@AceGaming-or4gp]

Average Overwatch player gaining or losing ~ 20% SR Me : Laughs in +85% for a loss. muahahahahaha

[@Dfm25387]

Tank is super unfun right now even tho iv been farming because I see alot of tank mains are not playing tank

[@runaway74]

good afternoon kark

[@joenuts7124]

i completely agree with the take about Flats and the tank role. Flats used to be my favourite ow2 creator but I cannot stand the constant complaining about tanks.

[@Keyawnce]

Shocked at flats haters

[@ericwilson3211]

Lol that first one 🤣 DPS is the hardest role to make an impact. I flex around also, but if you're bad at dps it'll show. You can heal bit and make it look like you're doing stuff, tank always gets double healed.

[@ZzsiegzZ]

Idk every stack I have it seems like dps can carry lobbies the hardest. Support is super powerful and easier but I don’t think the ceiling is as high for carrying. Also all of my most difficult matches are when the enemy has a dps better than everyone else in the lobby. I’m Peak M5 support this season for context. A high skill support isn’t carrying in the same way a high skill soj/mcree/or widow is. Probably a skill issue on your end or you don’t have many games since season 9 with new hit boxes and dps passive

[@eagerinspirit]

saying dps isn't the most impactful role at the moment is a genuine skill issue/self report. healing numbers across the board have been buffed to compensate for the DPS passive, so whatever your DPS isn't shooting has buffed health with even STRONGER healing than pre season 9. dps is only the hardest role if you haven't developed your aim enough to be able to execute basic plays.

[@ZzsiegzZ]

@@eagerinspiritexactly my thoughts. Dps ain’t easy by any means but certainly is carrying the hardest in the current season

[@plumpduckk]

Lmao what? DPS is the easiest role with the DPS passive negating healing💀

[@carlkit]

DPS is the easiest role to impact in the current patch. It is too easy and too much impact to compare with other 2 roles or dps in ow1

[@Keyawnce]

Hello, soldier has recoil on console, sojourn, ball, and ram do not. Tracking odds not the same on controller. Pc soldier doesn’t have recoil

[@oOYourdadOo]

Replying to the Soldier ult comment: maaaaaaaannnn, i feel the same, if not worse, about Reapers ult. I havent played a whole lot since Kiriko’s release. I started playing in OW1 and tracked a decent amount of hours then. Now that I’ve come back in Season 10, the game has changed quite a bit in terms of hero balancing. I like to play Reaper. Get in, flank, disrupt the enemy teams flow, pop a support or two, and get out. But when i see the opportunity, i like to go for it and Death Blossom for a 5K. But now its like his ult doesnt do the same damage. Maybe its the increased health pools creating a HUGE difference in TTK; or maybe his ult was nerfed at some point. It just sucks when so many heroes have evasive moves and ways to bop you, and you bait them to using their resources and still dont deal enough damage in to kill the DPS and support who healing the dps before they have a chance to either get they cooldown back or boop you. And im not just simply jumping out the bush in front of the enemies and popping ult when I think its a good time. I hop in usually when the fight is thick and jumped dead center in the middle of their team. The Reaper ult i remember used to kill at least 1-2 players even if they knew it was coming. now they have a time to receive a few back shots, then 180 sleep me and return the favor with a little extra on top.

[@madtonesbr]

You're not baiting out the right cooldowns like you claim if you're getting slept and CCed. It's comp-dependent and the player base is much smarter now. Like any ult, you have to bait what can ult cancel you. No different from Illari's ult, Junk's, etc. If you're trying to Death Blossom into an Ana with sleep dart and an Orisa with javelin then you're going it wrong. None of what you described has to do with health pools, and the DPS passive means it's harder than ever to heal through it. You just have to adapt to enemies who have gotten smarter about it.

[@S85B50Engine]

​@@madtonesbr if you say that, you are probably the type of person that dies to Pharah's ult

[@oOYourdadOo]

@@madtonesbr you literally missed everything i said and chose the one word that wasnt the complaint. A smart player who is paying attention and wonder where the Reaper disappeared to is gonna do their best to hold on to cooldowns if they can. And even after the ONE character in the game who has a sleep dart was forced to use it and has burned that cooldown, you think it the stars will be aligned that their 4 teammates have also used their ults and cooldowns in the time that as well? Listen, im trying to be practical. Every situation wont be perfect. What im saying is the ult doesnt hit the same. Before even if they had their cooldown, if their back was turned for more then a second and i popped that death blossom into their back, if they were using ultra high sensitivity on their mouse or controller, they were likely to have already died before they could turn around. It feels like the TTK decreased DRASTICALLY is what im saying. Not that i have trouble using the ult. I still use it effectively, but its not the same ult it once was. I dont know if its because the increased extra 50+ health points compared to when I used to play are making a major impact, or if the damage was nerfed, or both. But Reaper just doesnt feel like he is playing the same game unless im 3 shotting supports and dps on my flanks. And to clarify before you or anyone else gets confused on my concern again. I was hoping for clarification if for the Reaper his ult has become so much weaker; less so on how to use it properly, unless it works better if im aiming at their head just like Soldiers ult.

[@runaway74]

They have a time to receive a few WHAT

[@T1J]

ive stopped watching several content creators bc all they do is complain about the game

[@AdhvaithSane]

Can’t blame tho honestly. The higher-ups (not the devs) are the one to blame for their awful management and toxic work place, the devs may not all be passionate about making this game, Overwatch, truly great but ALL their “higher-ups” are *certainly not,* I absolutely despise them, if they really wanted money, instead of aggressively and unfairly monetising the game, they SHOULD *FIRST* make the game great in terms of balance AND *fun,* and then, and ONLY then.. can they REASONABLY monetise their game but also making their products (i.e skins, cosmetics, emotes etc…) within the game WORTH IT. But oh well. Guess it’s too hard to get that brain working….

[@Bandersnaching]

I stopped watching Flats for that exact reason. He's so negative and sarcastic its exhausting to watch. Hope he changes

[@twangwwfa9017]

1st one is literally because you can't aim. Tank or heals is 0 aim for the most part. Ball and mauga gets most value at point blank range. Obviously that doesn't translate to soldier or cass trying to track from 20m away

[@jackobatgaming]

I honestly can't stand Flats. The amount of bias for tanks and against supports is downright harmful for the game. The fact that as a streamer he has the dev's ear and he still says the stuff he says makes me sad for the state of the game at times.

[@gamingbean6440]

Honestly I feel like Flats is a little irresponsible with some of his takes about the game. He has a large audience and the devs pay attention to what he says. So even something made as a joke can be taken too far either by his audience or a bad dev decision. Same as when Wanted mentioned supports need to be mostly dps'ing that one time a little while ago. And it lead to an epidemic of supports who just wouldn't heal at all citing that "wanted said to deal dps" it's hard to tell if it was a joke to point out how stupid the take was or genuinely believing that he meant only doing dps.

[@jackobatgaming]

@@gamingbean6440 I remember when Brig got the change to her ult (big shield plus stun on shield bash during ult,) and Flats acted like the sky was falling. He was all like "What are the devs thinking? This is going to be the worst thing ever! Tanks will be unplayable! Prepare for there to be Brig in every game now!" And the patch goes live and it's FINE. It's such a non issue that it basically never even gets brought up again, and after the first week Brig's pick rate basically goes back to what it was pre buff, so basically the player base was like "meh, whatever." And he does those wild emotional hot takes ALL the time, which would be fine if it was for laughs or if he spread the freak outs over all the various heroes and roles, but he kind of reserves it for supports in particular, or to claim tanks are a garbage role no matter their actual relative strength. "Tanks feel awful to play and they have no impact," is the one opinion that he repeats ad nauseam.

[@gamingbean6440]

@@jackobatgaming Yeah he's beating a dead horse with it at this point. He's not even right by the stats either for Rein's winrates. They're actually above 50% across all ranks. So I really dont understand why he says Rein is terrible? Meanwhile he rags on supports with super low winrates. Or ocassionally the odd dps with a low winrate. Like they're all in objectively worse states then Rein is and yet Rein is the character he thinks is in a bad state? I dont get it man. Starting to think he just doesn't wanna adapt as the game changes.

[@bleachigo990]

@@gamingbean6440dps-ing supports is like 90 percent of my games as dps or tank. I’ll be right next to my support with like 20 health and they’re to busy role playing widow/ genji/ soldier/ baby Dva to heal me. I got Constantly dove by a Dva while my support wasn’t paying any attention me on my first game yesterday and it just went down hill from there.

[@Matt-cy9pc]

Flats can have such an attitude in his videos. Particularly in response to what some of his viewers have to during some of his streams. Making comments such as "you're an idiot" and "I don't care what you have to say" or dismissive, insulting, and overall unnecessary. I used to like his videos. His opinions and his outlook on key game issues used to be constructive and meaningful. I was a subscriber but have recently unsubscribed because of his attitude change as of late.

[@hunterkinsella5303]

Completely wrong with the stuck in plat question. With Ow2 if you are in the same rank as you were in Ow1 than you havent inproved, considering it is easier than ever to get high elo from just time played

[@KarQives]

Nah I completely disagree, the goalpost for the skills required to maintain each rank slowly moves up over time no matter what. Plat in OW1 is not the same as plat in OW2 at all

[@hunterkinsella5303]

@@KarQives Yeah. Its not the same. Its just everyone that was in plat in ow1 is now higher than plat. That guy isnt improving.

[@thetecmachine2012]

You say “everyone” but who exactly is everyone?

[@yungchow9555]

Spilo and flats are the worst things to happen to overwatch unfortunately

[@8lackyj188]

What’s wrong with spilo??

[@yungchow9555]

@@8lackyj188 does nothing but whines about the state of the game

[@8lackyj188]

@@yungchow9555 I see. I feel like spilo usually gives more constructive/ analytical takes, at least on his KZbin and I’m new to his channel. Flats I can’t stand 💀, I stopped watching him like a year ago because I found him so obnoxious

[@AdhvaithSane]

They’re doing what they’re doing on purpose smh.

[@Not2sure]

No way people are still saying tanks is the easiest role . Supports hate them and dps think their tanks do nothing but feed . It’s so bs. Dps and supports are literally carry roles and tanks are at the mercy of their team ALL the time .enemy team goes hog, our team never goes Ana or sojourn . Enemy team goes orisa , ours never changes to zen and sym . Tanks play the switch game because they HAVE to . Dps and supports don’t because they are soooooo trash . LGBT games have ruined teamwork .