What Did Arius Really Believe?

What is Arianism? Did Arius believe that Jesus was a created being? What took place at the Council of Nicaea? Watch this short video to discover what the real controversy was all about!

[@RestitutionMinistries]

In 325 AD, the Council of Nicaea paved the way for the rejection of the literal Sonship of Christ and the belief in a three-in-one consubstantial god. In the Council of Laodicea in 364 AD, the church officially transferred the solemnity of Sabbath to Sunday. The Athanasian Creed which Pr Hatton loves so much was written some time between 400-500 AD. At that point, the church was certainly the apostate Catholic Church we know today! Will history be repeated? Today, the SDA church has accepted the trinity doctrine. And when the time of trouble draws near, their acceptance of the trinity will also lead them to deny the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Don't forget Sister White's warning about the "new organisation”, in which "the fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error". The quote goes on to say that "the Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded [by this new organisation] as also the God who created it." {ISM 204} Accepting the trinity doctrine, in a conscious rejection of the light available, will lead you to receive the mark of the beast. The question for the end times and the question for today is the same. Which God will you worship?

[@randyw.8781]

In regard to the law the Sabbath was a absence of work even meals were to be prepared in advance of that day. Do you keep that command?

[@0397rb]

All gods are false, all religions are false, all prophets are false, there's no such thing as holy word from a, god. No one follow the Bible or really knows what it says

[@0397rb]

The sabbath comes from Babylon, I thought Yahuah was against following the ways of the heathen

[@randyw.8781]

Arius's belief that the Spirit of God was also subservient to the Father and not of the same nature may of been his undoing. Such a teaching would not be from above. Repetitively God calls that Spirit His own So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty. Jesus - the Spirit of the sovereign Lord is upon me.... Jesus - the Father is living in me doing His work.. Jesus -But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. The divinity in Jesus is the Father. The fullness was pleased to dwell in Him. Father, Son, Holy Spirit Fathers promise-In the last days I will pour out my Spirit Regardless while Jesus uses truth and gives understanding He is not leading a rebellion.

[@yuumeiaimerrinvillanueva2467]

For me THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD; THE FATHER, for WHOM are all things, and I in HIM. And one Lord Jesus Christ, by Whom are all things, and I by Him. There are three that bear record in heaven, THE FATHER, The Word, and The Holy Ghost and these three are one. THE ONE GOD IS THE FATHER, THE WORD IS HIS WORD, THE HOLY GHOST IS HIS SPIRIT.

[@dbutube22]

They were so busy attacking each other they forgot what Yeshua taught them. To love each other.

[@УрошКалиниченко]

He also said that there would be Wolves amongst the flock, upon which we are to act harshly

[@aymeneaymene111]

Arius who was a priest was against the deification of Jesus, but not only him, Eusebius of Caesarea and Lucian the Martyr, they were the majority to reject the deification of Jesus, but in view of the intentions of Constantine to impose his sight which was the one the bishops of Alexandria and Constantinople, the majority of bishops signed the Nicene declaration because they knew that if they did not sign, they would be imprisoned or exiled, they preferred to sign and return to their respective territories advocate the true message of Jesus, namely the absolute unicity of God, but fortunately the mother of Constantine Helena (promoted to St. Helena later) who was monotheist put all his influence to bring Constantine back to the real time and Arius was invited to join the court of Constantinople in 335 and today many specialists have proved with proof that the current of Arius (and Eusebius of Caesarea and Lucian the Martyr and many other bishops and priests) ended up convincing Constantine to return to the true faith, moreover he promulgated a decree that ordered this reform. It is important to prove that between 325 and 381 (Council of Constantinople), which imposed the deification of the Holy Spirit, there were about five councils (or conferences) which are not mentioned in the ecclesiastical documents, why? because these 5 councils restored Christianity in its true dimension in accordance with the message of Jesus, namely the worship dedicated to God alone and that Jesus was of human nature came on earth to preach the word of God, these documents were simply burned .

[@kingasterius1096]

@Albert Stier the person who commented didn't say anything about islam what the fuck are you on about

[@LightMagaTrump_]

Which 5 councils?

[@Adrian-yf1zg]

@@kingasterius1096can you mind your language

[@borrburison648]

And arianism is still a heresy

[@Joleyn-Joy]

I take problem with the word "deification". It implies Jesus is a different deity than God.

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

قل هو الله أحد

[@animaxelement4388]

we dont worship moon god, ahad wat? ahad dumpling?

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@@animaxelement4388 I can't understand what you wrote

[@animaxelement4388]

@@ahmedalhussein7594 الله هو إله قمر غير شرعي يعطي سبعين من الحور والنبيذ في بيت دعارة الجناح

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@@animaxelement4388 لا أستطيع فهمك حقاً

[@animaxelement4388]

الله نذل هوري الله نذل شرب الخمر الله إله مزيف الله إله القمر

[@TheBibleCode]

It’s this last phrase ("only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV) that causes problems. False teachers have latched onto this phrase to try to prove their false teaching that Jesus Christ isn’t God; i.e., that Jesus isn’t equal in essence to God as the Second Person of the Trinity. They see the word "begotten" and say that Jesus is a created being because only someone who had a beginning in time can be "begotten." What this fails to note is that "begotten" is an English translation of a Greek word. As such, we have to look at the original meaning of the Greek word, not transfer English meanings into the text. So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham’s "only begotten son" (KJV). Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for the use of monogenes in that context. The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God’s Son-sharing the same divine nature as God-as opposed to believers who are God’s sons and daughters by adoption (Ephesians 1:5). Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son. The bottom line is that terms such as "Father" and "Son," descriptive of God and Jesus, are human terms that help us understand the relationship between the different Persons of the Trinity. If you can understand the relationship between a human father and a human son, then you can understand, in part, the relationship between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. The analogy breaks down if you try to take it too far and teach, as some pseudo-Christian cults (such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses), that Jesus was literally "begotten" as in “produced” or “created” by God the Father.

[@tongakhan230]

Only begotten (monogenes - Gr) is also used for Isaac. (Hebrews 11:17) By faith Abraham, when he was tested, as good as offered up Isaac-the man who had gladly received the promises attempted to offer up his ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON. Isaac was Abraham's only begotten son through his wife Sarah, the woman with the promise. Sons can never be their own father. That makes no sense.

[@TheBibleCode]

@@tongakhan230 Thatts not the only definition of the WORD ...hahaha... go learn and then comeback ... debate me live if you want

[@tongakhan230]

@@TheBibleCode : Again, show me where in the scriptures has anyone ELSE being called ONLY BEGOTTEN. Just making a claim without scriptural references is neither here nor there.

[@TheBibleCode]

@@tongakhan230 it's the definition of the word .. lol who told you that only begotten comes from being born? Yes it's one of the meaning but it also means Only one of his kind. Don't get rusty lol

[@tajjiintanzania6237]

For by Christ all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities and powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things and in Him all things consist (Colossians 1:16-17).

[@grahmedmisten231]

Yeah preach wooooo!

[@DarienWhite-vm2hb]

Rev 3:14 say Jesus is 'the beginning of the creation of God". Col 1:15 says Jesus is "the firstborn of every creature". In both of these scriptures Jesus is of (or part of) creation. Is God a part of creation? The answer is "no". Jesus is a part of creation, because he was the first being ever created. God in turn used that being to create everything else.

[@tajjiintanzania6237]

@@DarienWhite-vm2hb That is bad hermeneutics. You need to study what firstborn actually means theologically and culturally in that context. Since Jesus is not a created being and Genesis says Adam was created, and 1 Corinthians 15 says Jesus was not.... The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. My suggestion is that you learn how to study the Bible in order to properly exegete a passage because you need to know what it means. .... In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:1-3).

[@siddislikesgoogle]

​@tajjiintanzania6237 if God takes of his divine substance and gives it a will, persona of its own, then you have a being that shares divine nature yet is derived from and separate from the Father. Since divine substance is uncreated and eternal, Jesus would be technically Co eternal yet created simultaneously. Like taking bricks from a house to build a new one, separate buildings, same materials, but one derived from the other. How is this idea problematic, thoughts?

[@RestitutionMinistries]

Dear ‘A brother in Christ’, sadly we couldn’t find much either, the ‘mother church’ did a good job to try to obliterate anything surrounding Arius. I truly wish I could help you more. May God bless your search.

[@yuumeiaimerrinvillanueva2467]

The spirit of truth that dwell in arius, are also (in many if not all) in the believers today that rejects the doctrine of false teacher athanasius. There are three that bear record in heaven, THE FATHER, The Word, and The Holy Ghost and these three are one. THE ONE GOD IS THE FATHER, The Word is HIS WORD and The Holy Ghost is HIS SPIRIT. For me, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, THE FATHER; for whom are all things, and I in HIM, and One Lord Jesus Christ by Whom are all things, and I by Him.

[@elchango7031]

This is an interesting video that explains exactly why christians saw Arius as a threat to Christianity. His belief just negates the divinity of Christ. If he has a beginning he is not God. If he doesn't share the essence of God the father, well he is not God. Making its sacrifice meaningless. Not only that but Arius's idea just makes Christ a lesser god, that's just politeism. Its shocking to see that the same arrogance we see in protestants also ocurred in such ancient times. But it makes me hopeful that the Christian Church will ultimately prevail against heresy.

[@RestitutionMinistries]

Sadly, El Chango, what you say is very wrong in many ways. Let me ask you a very simple question... How are you a human being? Simply because your earthly father is human, so naturally because you are begotten of your earthly father, and he is human, you naturally take on his human nature, or humanity. It cannot be simpler than this. I put it to you that it is exactly the same with Christ, the only begotten Son of God. His Father, being God, would naturally beget a divine Son, who was of the same nature as His Heavenly Father, and that very nature is God. Just because he is begotten of God and had a beginning does not change the simple fact that because His Father is God, Christ is also God, by nature inherited from His Father. I am no less human because my earthly father is human. I inherit exactly the same humanity as my father. So, likewise, Christ is no less divine or Godlike, just because He was begotten of God the Father and had a beginning. Your reasoning is totally flawed and doesn't make any sense at all. This belief does not negate His divinity, it confirms it because it shows that He inherited His divinity from His divine Father, making him equally divine. Because His Father was in very essence God in every sense, so His only begotten Son, from the days of eternity, would also inherit the very essence of God. It's that simple. And it doesn't make "Christ a lesser god" as you state, but fully equal to God his Father in every essence.

[@jland90]

This is a misunderstanding of Jesus sacrifice that contradicts scripture. Read Romans 5 carefully. Jesus sacrifice was sufficient because he WAS an obedient human being and described in detail by Paul in his letter to the Romans. The concept that Jesus being God in the flesh doesn't come from the Bible, it's a doctrine of men that contradicts scripture which makes it the actual heresy in this situation.

[@aymeneaymene111]

I looked at two writings emanating from Muhammad that struck me, in his time, that is to say in the 7th century, he sends a letter to Heraclius, emperor of Byzantium inviting him to embrace Islam, it was a sober letter, in the end and this is the important thing he said to him: "if you refuse, then you will bear the sins of the Arians", yet at that time, only the great figures of the church knew these truths especially the ideological conflict over the divinity of Jesus, a conflict that had already begun since the 2nd century and lasted until that time. The 2nd written is a hadith certified by the Muslim specialists of the Hadith as being authentic and in which Muhammad says "Before God sent me, he observed men, Arabs and non-Arabs, he despised them, EXCEPT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK "and knowing the message of Muhammad who pronounces pure and absolute monotheism, the latter regarded these communities of Christians as true believers, and he proclaimed very clearly that these Christians were on the right path. So tell me who is right and who is wrong. That is why I say without a shadow of a doubt that all the Christian dogma established after the alliance sealed between the Trinitarian bishops and the imperial power in 325 is doubtful and does not reflect in any way the message of Christ.

[@BSDrumming]

Are you basing you theology on the approval of Muhammad? Maybe I am confused by your point.... could you please clarify?

[@aymeneaymene111]

@@BSDrumming yes

[@BSDrumming]

aymene aymene so are you Muslim?

[@Baba-ul9vo]

B Morrell what does this has to do with his point?

[@user-ue4fh5mv9s]

@@Baba-ul9vowell at that time arabs were unaware of all the sects of chrisanity and specially the arians because they were almost at the point of extinction moreover arabs had no idea about the belives of areius who didn't believe in the devinity of jesus which is also the doctrain of islam

[@abrotherinchrist]

I would very much like to have everything I can find written by and to Arius in both Greek and English. Do you know of such a collection?

[@jag6138]

So would I

[@ramzinasri4840]

kzbin.info/aero/PLdEUZ0tAJdI6aip2ywcgSg0LjL_e5chET You could read subtitles

[@salisophia6595]

It seems and this is what I have understood, that Arius was trying to argue with logic. If Christ was God, and omnipresent, coeternal... Then he must not be begotten, I mean he was always there, present. But if God ( Father) has begotten Jesus, this means at a certain point he was not there, not existing. Since trinitarians refuted this idea of Christ having a beginning ( bcoz it goes against the attributes of God), the only logical explanation left is that the sonship of Christ is metaphorical ( video 10:27 and on). So after this, what did he believe in since we don't have many scriptures about this ? I believe that the answer is That he believed : God is one, the omnipresent.. and that Christ is not a god as he has a beginning .. Just like what he believed in the first place, which goes PERFECTLY with the first commandment! And he came to the conclusion that Jesus being the Sun of God is metaphorical as it's the only way out. And just as "your father "is used metaphorically "my father " could also be the case, like why not! Besides, there is no use of playing with words like "begotten " "made" when the first commandment is clear and many passages state to worship only One God, (the Father) and that He (Christ ) seeks no glory from men...

[@Totem360]

@@salisophia6595 It could also be understood as His Sonship is the expression of his full humanity and still be co-eternal with God the Father and the Holy Spirit in one Godhead. That makes more sense to me. However these issues should not eclipse that Christ is the way, the Truth and the Life and that no man comes to the Father but by Christ nor should they eclipse that Christ died for the sins of men on the cross, was buried and resurrected on the third day making mankind a way to the Father. In hindsight is looks like Arius got a bum deal as has so often been the case from egotistical men. I have not understood why us men have to think we can understand fully the rather mystical mind of God on all matters and then persecute those who have a differing thought on what are, to my mind, secondary issues.

[@bobhucik6309]

Personally I study GOD's Word and use HIS Word to discern what it says. What did Yehoshua Say: John 5:39 “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.” Genesis 1:3 “And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.” Psalms 104:2 “Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:” John 3:19 “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.” John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 9:5 “As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” John 12:36 “While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.” Revelation 21:23 “And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.” John 5:31 “If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.” John 5:32 “There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.” John 5:36 “But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.” John 8:18 “I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.” John 10:25 “Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.” John 15:27 “And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.” John 12:50 “And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.” John 14:10 “Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Oh, THE WORD IS GOD! The Father IS the invisible, living WORD. The Father IS the Creator. The Creator spoke and "LIGHT" proceeded forth from Himself. Psalms 138:2 “I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” John 8:42 “Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.” Proverbs 8:8 “All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.” Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” John 6:63 “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” It is easier to to describe ourselves to describe Yahweh, our Father. When we see our image in the mirror we only see our fleshly temple. When we speak we hear our spirit who is in charge of our flesh.When our right hand dies our spirit, our living essense, lives on and does not die. Our flesh is only a covering over our spirit. There is not three of any of us, we are all one wrapped up in our right hand thhrough which we do our work. BUT, it is us telling what our right hand, our flesh, wat to do though wde are the one's doing the work. We cannot see oiurselves. It by thee vehicle of the flesh that we can be seen. As you can see, the flesh can do NOTHING on it's own. When you or I, our spirits, leaave our house of flesh it ceases to exist because there is no ;ife of itself. The flesh cannot function without the essense of life dwelling in it. Describing the Godhead is as easy as describing Yahweh and HIS only Glory, Yahoshua. The living WORD OF LIFE, Yahweh dwells in His only SON, Yahoshua, and the SPOKEN WORD is the HOLY SPIRIT, which is the testimony of Yahoshua: Revelation 19:10 “And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

[@a.lavernefilan1888]

Arius believed GOD was telling the truth when GOD said HE had a only begotten Son. The Serpent in the garden accused GOD of being a liar. People who don't believe GOD really has an Only Begotten Son and instead believe that the Son is just another personality of GOD or believe that the Son is just another co-equal being that is role playing are in essence calling the only true GOD and HIS Son, the Begotten God liar's. GOD is not a man that HE should lie nor is HE the Son of man that HE should repent!

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

Thank you for this. You helped me more fully understand that Arius was a lost heretic. Bless you that you would have the understanding from G-d and His Unbegotten Son who had no beginning and has no end. Amen

[@PeaceIsIslaam]

171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, is the Messenger of God , and His Word which He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say, “Trinity.” Refrain, for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him-that He should have a child. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and on earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector. Surah an-Nisa'

[@tongakhan230]

Jesus had a beginning. God hadn't. Proverbs 8:22 CEB The Lord (Jehovah) created me at the beginning of his way, before his deeds long in the past.

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

@@tongakhan230 I'll pray for you

[@tongakhan230]

@@tallmikbcroft6937 : Why would one want to do that? How about praying that one will understand the TRUTH as given in the Bible. That is the TRUTH that sets people FREE from false beliefs. (John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews WHO HAD BELIEVED HIM: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.” No Jew would believe that a human could be God (Exodus 33:20). 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20. Unless no one saw Jesus, he certainly wasn't God even for a second. Just trying to help.

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

@@tongakhan230 you said it. But I'll still love you. Peace

[@grishaagrind1821]

Arianism is the True Follower of Yehusha/Issa (AS).

[@helman41]

arians still believe jesus is divine, get your propaganda outta here

[@salamanlibya2006]

Arius was Libyan... he was not excepted because the racial bastards in European doctrine!! The trinity was more close to Mithra (the god which Constantine worshiped ) Mithra was also born a virgin birth- from a Bull... and was worshipped in the Roman time too !! Read! Your history!! Arianism was the closest to the Abrahamic faiths ! That there is only one god... Eloah (Judaism) Or Alaha (Aramaic #Jesus tung) or Allah (in Arabic) ... Read the letter of the prophet Mohamed to Hercules! He mentioned the Arians by name... You have to surrender to the truth if you are a true believer! And not let your eco stand between you and the truth ! Your raise or colour means nothing in the eyes of god! The truth shall rise like the sun 🌞 one day!

[@funabyss4488]

arian is the real christian

[@sultanahbaby1076]

We believe they were early Muslims coz Prophet muhammed peace be upon him sent letter to Hercules warning him to about Arians , modern Christianity was in councel of nicea about 325 ,it was formed for gain power and political reason .mixed up with methodology that used to be practiced by Roman's and pagans

[@hoticeparty]

"Real Christian" everyone has different opinion on that, no one is right and no one *can* be right.

[@eliasabourjeily999]

Exactly Arius was right but the agents of Satan on Earth rewrote Christianity to fit paganism

[@SabbathDay]

​@@hoticepartyThat's nonsense. There will always be ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

[@NotLeftarded1]

Christianity sounds like a good idea and it would be nice if someone actually did it for a change. As far as I'm concerned all three sons of Abraham are crazy and believe in fairytales. He's coming back right? Any day now. A bunch of fools, childlike actually. Don't mistake my icon for belief it is merely part of my heritage and culture and ancestry. I'm not Christian because I think real Christians kill the Antichrist Spirit and the Antichrist spirit is everyone who doesn't believe in Christ. I have yet to encounter a real Christian willing to kill the Antichrist Spirit because most of you are cowards on your knees turning the other cheek.

[@randomkaizer]

Brothers and sisters, who were searching for the truth, questioning about your beliefs, you love God but you're confused about him. There's a manual of life called Quran, it talks deeper about the purpose of our existence and about God. Read it without bias, may the Almighty God guide you towards the truth!

[@lovetwentyfourseven7428]

Right. As you have seen me; you are seeing the father; not in physical form but in essence. The father was living through him in the Holy Spirit, the essence of the father. He remains visible likeness of an invisible God; that invisible God is love. Jesus persona is one with the father being.

[@edithhewson7208]

Most of Arius persecution had do with exultation of Mary as Mother of God many are still persecuted in that they don't agree with this dogma

[@amn7319]

Proverbs 8 is the basis and foundation of Arius' doctrine.

[@AbdAllah-lp7wn]

Arianism is true Christianty

[@thebasedcatholic]

It's true heresy

[@InvestigadorTJ]

Yes

[@_kidtripp7772]

John 1 makes it impossible for Arianism to be true.

[@jmikhael5200]

May the sol of Saint Aruis be in heaven . Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏 .

[@PeaceIsIslaam]

171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, is the Messenger of God , and His Word which He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say, “Trinity.” Refrain, for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him-that He should have a child. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and on earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector. Surah an-Nisa'

[@nasserasiri789]

Ameen, he was a true Muslim

[@thenobleone-3384]

Arius is from what we know today as Libya.

[@harrypotterfrancais383]

Both Arius and St Augustine are berbers from Numedia or Algeria today

[@samuelhmar276]

Amen Sister. Glory be God. The Most high Name Jesus be proclaim throughout the world. Every knee shall bow, believe it or Not the Begotten son (Flesh ) Carried The most High Name. Amen..

[@djmaydraws3862]

Jehovah is the most high name (Psalm 83:18)

[@mosesmanaka8109]

You are sincere but wrong. The Early Church Fathers such as Polycarp, Ignatius, Papaus and Clement of Rome who studied directly under the Apostle John and Peter and Paul prior to the Council of Nicaea used the term Trinity and clearly believed and taught that Christ is consubstantial or homoousion, same in essense to the Father. Three separate persons each GOD yet separate. I agree that the Roman Catholic Church came up with some weird stuff which the Reformation later had to correct but the Council of Nicaea ain't one of them. The Council merely formulated and reaffirmed that which the early Church already believed.

[@tongakhan230]

This may help. (Acts 20:30) and from AMONG YOU YOURSELVES men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves. Using the teachings of Polycarp, Ignatius, Papaus and Clement is nether here nor there. They became the apostates. The Trinity was never believed by any worshiper of the ONLY TRUE GOD, Jehovah. Neither did Jesus. (John 14:1) “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith ALSO IN ME.

[@mosesmanaka8109]

@@tongakhan230 Well the Pharisees who knew the Law like no else clearly interpreted that Jesus was blaspheming "making himself equal to GOD" when Caiaphas the high Priest taw his clothes in shame. And which is why they killed Him. The twisted things you refer to in Acts 20:20 certainly does not refer to the Diety or GODHEAD of Christ but merely refers to Christian Jews in the Church who wanted to go back into Judaism and hold on to both Judaism and Christianity. They are the Apostate.

[@tongakhan230]

@@mosesmanaka8109 : Come come! Even the Jews were not that crazy to believe a human being could be God. They knew what God had told Moses. (Exodus 33:20) But (God) added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.” The Jews FALSELY accused Jesus of making himself EQUAL to God. Not of BEING God. If the nuance isn't discernible here is an example. The Secretary of State is making decisions which only the President should take. Thereby, the SoS is making himself EQUAL to the President. They will always remain two SEPERATE AND DISTINCT INDIVIDUALS. Paul clearly stated that AFTER his death the twisted things will be taught among Christians (Acts 20:29,30). That is how the Trinity, immortal soul, hell fire and such came to be labelled as 'Christian'. Read through the book of Acts and the other letters to the Christian Congregation and try and find a single instance of Jesus or the holy sprit being worshiped. NONE exists. Even today, Jesus' restored Christian Congregation is filled with his DISCIPLES. Not his worshipers. (John 13:35) By this all will know that you are MY DISCIPLES-if you have love among yourselves.” In KZbin type 'JW Conventions' and observe this prophecy is action.

[@williambruyette1567]

Very few denominations teach this. One of the few who glorify God alone. And Jesus as the first of Gods created entities... is Jehovah's witnesses!

[@azdivlogs9665]

Jesus or Yeshua on Aramic was a Prophet Like oders he was not white but brown only his birth was a mircle from God Allah al mighty when he say be and it is . Alhamdulilah for our Islam all is Clear .

[@fadelaelzalet8674]

Aruis. Was born in Libya 🇱🇾 Cyrene Benghazi now eastern of Libya we are proud of him ❤ He was very wise man who knew a lot of things about the reality of Jesus being human and prophet like Muhammad not god ,,,

[@BrianTerrill]

Muhammad falsely taught that Jesus was not the Son of God.

[@vaticanjesuitNWO]

But Muhammad was a false prophet because his Islam teaches that Jesus did NOT die on the cross, but only seemed to. So, Islam has no savior and Muslims will die in their sins: for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And there's only one savior, the one who died for our sins. If Jesus did not die, then we are all going to die in our sins, just like the Muslims. Jesus plainly said, "If you do not believe that I am he (the prophesied Messiah), then you will die in your sins." That includes ALL of us on the earth. Muslims have no hope in their false prophet Muhammad. Jesus is the only name under heaven given among men whereby we MUST be saved. Muhammad knew nothing of this fact. Neither do Muslims.

[@JUAN_OLIVIER]

The Trinity is a pagan believe enforced by the Roman sword. The Egyptians also believed their Pharaohs were gods in human form just like Trinitarians believe Jesus is God in human form.

[@DecoMarin]

I believe. From Brazil. Think about it: in pushing Jesus upward to make him God, a gap is created. Guess who fits in that gap? Churches, institutions, pope, pastors, priests, whoever. They won't leave the mediator's seat! It's convenient for them to perpetuate the lie. Why woudn't jews or muslims denounce it then? They'd correct the core heresy - politeism - hidden in trinity

[@Unknown86483]

The trinity is complicated, and it might seem like polytheism, but you need to think a bit on this subject to understand, to research and to read the Bible, the old testament to see if the trinity is mentioned. The spirit of God is mentioned (the holy spirit) in genesis 1:1-2, we already know the son is mentioned in for example in Isaiah 53, and God is mentioned throughout the bible. It's as simple as that.

[@tyowongndeso]

so for arius, there's a time when the father was NOT a father because he wasnt a father (yet), for one is a father when he has a son.

[@maxwellhufford7115]

Great production and documentation. Thank you

[@PeaceIsIslaam]

171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, is the Messenger of God , and His Word which He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say, “Trinity.” Refrain, for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him-that He should have a child. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and on earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector. Surah an-Nisa'

[@abelseyefu351]

How self centered can one be to believe that God is limited to your closed narrow mind. How worldly and lacking in faith can you possibly be to constrain the creator of the Universe to your worldly understanding? God is not subject to your notion of having to have a beginning like we humans do to be a son. God the Son has always existed with His Father. He does not have to come after the father to be a Son. God does not have to follow our logic for he is the one that created our logic. Therefore, the teachings of Arius are wrong and minimize God the Son, which is blasphemy and a denial of faith.

[@WishkoWagape]

Wonderful video! "For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." (Romans 3,3.4) God bless you for spreading the Truth about God The Father and His only-begotten Son! (John 17,3)

[@RestitutionMinistries]

Thank you Brother!

[@priscillajervey6134]

Yes, indeed!

[@jamesbattle5381]

There is not one single verse of scripture that comes even close to saying that one cannot be saved if he does not believe in the co-eternal trinity. As a matter of fact, I cannot find one single verse that says one must believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved, although I believe that He is. The Eunuch in Acts chapter 8 simply confessed that Jesus was the Son of God which was good enough for Philip to baptize him. So adding belief in the trinity as a requirement for salvation is unbiblical. It's just a way to try to scare people into believing a doctrine that is held dear by the majority of professing Christians.

[@priscillajervey5864]

You are absolutely correct. Romans 9 says: If you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that God raised Jesus from the dead you will be saved" The Catholic Holy Trinity is the biggest lie of Christendom And is a salvation issue.

[@laminsillah5999]

@James You cannot find a single verse in the Bible that Jesus is God and yet you believe it, why ?

[@jamesbattle5381]

I believe that Jesus is God because John 1:1 clearly states that He (the Word) is God and because of what I see in other verses. But the Bible does not teach that I must believe this to be saved. If it does teach that we must believe this in order to be saved, I would like someone to show me where. Keep in mind that the Bible does not teach that all of our beliefs about Jesus must be correct in order to be saved. However, it does teach that we must believe that He is the Son of God and certain other things in order to be saved.

[@defenseurdeverite9994]

There's only one God no son no Father no mother no vacation it's not a family and Arius knew it

[@borrburison648]

Youband arius are heretic idiots

[@defenseurdeverite9994]

@Margaritas use your brain 🧠 not your emotional no one knows what really God is. It is beyond our imagination this story of sons of god comes from grec indian methology

[@defenseurdeverite9994]

@Margaritasyou will allso

[@aerielmoonart8775]

God says that you can't enter in the kingdom of God with your own wisdom. You enter there like a child and God will give you His wisdom which is endless and everlasting. Including all other gifts God is giving for His children with His grace.

[@defenseurdeverite9994]

@@aerielmoonart8775 sorry your not a child God give you 100 billions Neurones to use it sorry

[@benyisrael2941]

Read Galatians 4:4 when Jesus time had come for God to make Jesus and made him by a woman and under the law!! Jesus was a thought, a prophetic message that God said was going to come and it start in the story of Adam and Eve then in( Deuteronomy 18:18 Moses Prophecy about the coming of Jesus ) and Acts 3:22 Peter confirm that Moses Prophecy was Jesus!!! Peter also said Jesus was a man a proved by God!! Read Acts 2:22

[@benyisrael2941]

And Jesus call the Father the only true God read John 17:3 and he said the true worshippers, worship the Father read John 4:23 (it's one God and it's the Father)

[@brabinjohn4262]

Ben Yisrael Do not forget that the same Book of John holds that Jesus is addressed as God by John in the beginning of creation & titled as God by Thomas after resurrection. Lord Jesus confirmed that those who believe Him as God without seeing Him are more blessed because they believe His true identity... This is really a strong statement which is un-debatable.

[@naiman4535]

There are huge dimesnions and ramifications of Arianism that this video fails to address - it is a woefully partial and incomplete exposition of the subject.

[@barneyroberts668]

There are huge dimensions and ramifications of tritheism trinitarianism people don't baptize in Jesus name for the remission of sins read your Bible it's all there

[@ryandawson2877]

It actually seems to be a bit confusing. Sense he believed that the Lord Jesus Christ proceeded from the father who was “God the word. “So it seems like he denies the deity of Christ but then affirms it.

[@johnmcclellan8423]

I am an Arian. Jesus was the truth and right by reason. It was wrong to make him a God. We follow Jesus by reason because it is the truth. He showed by example how to live.

[@stallioncapital5861]

very true we as muslims believe the same thing . this video is not telling the truth rather using Paulisme doctine

[@user-nk7xg8jn8q]

As a muslim, I see that arius is a great hero, may god rais him to the paradise

[@mutazmoghrabi2137]

Thats why all the Arians Christians in North Africa Spain and Parts of Europe accepted Islam, and people thinks that Islam spread by sword, Infact all the Muslims now days are Arians Christians who accepts Mohammad as Massenger of God.

[@almalayuwiyyah2512]

@@mutazmoghrabi2137 yes it it is true. when rome ruler spread the pagan called christianity by force. many of the arian fly to spain,north africa and egypt. when islam came. most of the north africa and al-andalalus become muslim immediately. because arianism is muslim before prophet muhammad born as a last messenger of allah.islam liberate the arianisme of north africa from the presecution of the roman. because of that arianisme of north africa become muslim that brought by the last messenger of Allah.

[@godhasgivenussalvationinth5223]

@@stallioncapital5861 no, the god of abraham gathered all things in heaven and on earth under christ authorithy and appointed christ to become the source of salvation for all humanity after entering into his glory islam is the antichrist deception itself

[@SamDavis-b4u]

Great! History .. Thanks

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

He believe in one god and Jesu's is just prophet not son of god ... Its the true

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@Barry Woods It is illogical and unnatural that God, who is the king of kings, to be incarnate in the form of a human being, a retinue of God, is higher and longer. God is God, and you are away from the heart of the matter. We, as Muslims, love the Virgin Mary and Jesus, but he is not the son of God, but he is a prophet whom we love and sanctify and imitate his teachings Real, not misrepresented, thank youغا

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@Barry Woods We believe in the return of Jesus, peace be upon him, to the earth. We believe that Jesus was raised to heaven indefinitely, and he did not die by God’s power. I am free and not compelled in my faith. There is no problem in our country. There are multiple religions. There is a Christian, there is a Muslim, and there is a Jew. But Jesus is not God, he is not the son of God, and God will not be incarnate in the form of human beings, as I told you. Why do not you understand as I am advising you and I am not an enemy and I hope that God will guide you

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@Barry Woods make search on name zaker naik and he will answer you in everything I wish you all the best bro 🌸🌸❤ By the way do you see I pet goat movie ???

[@ahmedalhussein7594]

@Barry Woods I tell you just search this name in KZbin zaker naik and he will answer on all your questions and you can search in same cases in a named ahmad deedat ...

[@fidelisadokweithompson7151]

“yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.” ‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭8‬:‭6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Don’t confuse the Source and the Means There is only One God Almighty, the Source of all things including Jesus And only one Lord Jesus, the means by which all things were created. God is Eternal, has no beginning and ending Jesus is Everlasting, has a beginning but do not have ending “However, there is not in everyone that knowledge… ‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭8‬:‭7‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@grahmedmisten231]

to the pure all things are pure but to the defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure.

[@DrMARDOC]

“GOD” IS THE SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS BEYOND ALL SPACE TIME ENERGY MATTER AND PHENOMENAL MANIFESTATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE. HE HAS BLESSED US WITH CONSCIOUSNESS AND AWARENESS AS A FLAME OF HIS BRILLIANCE AND ALL PERVADING ETERNAL PERPETUAL LIGHT

[@bashkillszombies]

Your inability to even know where your caps lock key is is proof enough that anything you say is subverted by your incredibly low IQ.

[@peterdunbar2816]

He the God begetteth not, nor is He begotten.. And there is none like unto Him.

[@Mr.Pennington]

Rome is the 1st beast of Rev 13. The papacy is the little horn power. The "holy see is the unholy beast from the sea. The "mother church" is the "Mother of Harlots". We know this without a shadow of a doubt because *it is the little horn power- rome is the smallest horn/nation on earth. *it plucked up 3 horns- rome slaughtered the vandals the ostrogoths and the heruli which is why the beast had only 7 heads but 10 horns(there were 10 nations in Europe after rome fell) *it speaks blasphemy- the Pope thinks he can forgive sins and is equal with God- the biblical definitions of blasphemy *it would think to change times and laws-We all use the Gregorian calandar. (as in pope Gregory) Rome changed the time a day rolls over to the next from the biblical sundown to 12 midnight. Rome changed the months. Octobers/oct should be the 8th month but it's the 10th. November should be the 9th month but it's the 11th, December as in deca should be 10th month but it's the 12th because Julius and Augustus Ceasar made months named after themselves. They wanted them to be the longest months, thats why July and August are the only consecutive months with 31 days, and why February only has 28: They stole them. *Rome also thinks to change laws- They messed up the 10 commandments: removing the one that forbids bowing to idols (problematic, when your church is full of them). And splitting the tenth commandment into 2 parts to get from 9 commandments to 10 again. The strongest evidence of all is the prophesy so important it was repeated 7 times: the 1260 day/42month/or time times and half a time prophesy. The pope got power in 538 and lost power in 1798. Exactly as predicted.

[@bastiat8322]

Thank you for the clear, concise video. It was difficult for me to find a fair discussion of Arius and his "heresy." I greatly appreciate it!

[@PeaceIsIslaam]

171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, is the Messenger of God , and His Word which He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say, “Trinity.” Refrain, for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him-that He should have a child. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and on earth, and Allah is a sufficient Protector. Surah an-Nisa'

[@tongakhan230]

Actually Arius got it right. But was overwhelmed by the majority. He was among the FEW. (Matthew 7:14) whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and FEW are finding it.

[@tongakhan230]

@Local83 - Devoted to God : The Greek word is Hades. Translated as Hell by the KJV. Here is what it says. (Matthew 16:18) Also, I say to you: You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation, and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it. For this to prove true, the Christian Congregation has to die and go to the grave. But the grave will not overpower or prevail over it. It will be resurrected. Jesus has restored his True Congregation during these last days. If someone boasts that "No jail can hold me", he must first go to jail and them break free for his words to prove true. After the death of the Apostles, Satan took over the Church and it basically died. False beliefs such as the Trinity , immortality of the soul, hell fire torment and such came to be labelled as 'Christian'. After Paul's death this is what he prophesied would happen. (Acts 20:30) and from among you yourselves men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves. Just reason. If a Council presided on by a pagan Roman Emperor was needed to establish what the Christian faith should be, it would mean that no follower of Jesus knew it before. Which doesn't make any sense. Here is Paul's advice to Christians. 1 Corinthians 4:6.....that through us you may learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” If we stay with what the Bible teaches, we should find ourselves among the FEW who love truth and will be saved (Matthew 7:14). Check out the JW website for explanations of Bible verses.

[@tongakhan230]

@Local83 - Devoted to God : Jesus was talking about his Christian Congregation. Read Matthew 16:18 carefully. If the RCC was the one true church why did the Protestants break away? Are they the apostates?

[@tongakhan230]

@Local83 - Devoted to God : The word prevail or overpower means something lasting. Jesus resurrected his true Congregation in these last days. Thus, the grave or a deathlike state did not prevail over it. What was the point of Jesus even mentioning the grave if his congregation wasn't heading to it?

[@valthomsen2724]

It is obvious that christians should not join in this often vicious theological debate. It is better just to believe Jesus when he claimed to be ' Son of man'.

[@ramijameel6551]

Thank you so much for your explanations, I have a question. This is my question: Who is Arius-and what is the ultimate reason why what he taught about Jesus is a heresy?

[@RestitutionMinistries]

Hi Rami Jameel, Arius was a man that lived from 256AD to 336AD. He is famous in church history because he opposed the trinitarian view of the nature of Christ. Contrary to the belief of what some say today, Arius believed that Christ was the literal Son of God, begotten of God the Father back in the days of eternity past, which is way beyond the capacity of man to comprehend how far back it was. Arius is labelled as a heretic by the Roman Catholic Church because the church believe in the trinity doctrine which denies the literal Sonship of Christ as the only begotten of the Father. The church teaches that there is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit a trinity of three, co-eternal Gods, BUT Arius opposed that view and was labelled as a heretic because he believed what the Bible teaches that God had a real Son and loved sinners like us so much that He sent His Son down to this earth to save us.

[@ramijameel6551]

@@RestitutionMinistries Thank you for your answer and deep explanations. God bless you

[@RestitutionMinistries]

@@ramijameel6551 God bless you too.

[@fadelaelzalet8674]

@@RestitutionMinistries why did not y mention that he was born in Libya 🇱🇾 like Marcus and Simon Cyrene!!!!!

[@Sniptool]

The fundamental doctrine of christianity (divinity of Jesus)is not defined since the christianity starts. Early church was keep fight to establish the role of jesus if he was prophet or son of god or god himself.

[@impressionantwerpen4653]

the Arians never disappeared in the 6th or 7th century, they were given a new name, Muslims. That is why the Quran also claims that this book is for Jews, Christians and friends. and also tells a lot about the nature of Jesus. Actually you can also look at it this way, old testament, new testament, Koran. that's the order. Good luck with your new adventure after this text, I hope you all find God.

[@gideonopyotuadebo2304]

IT IS BETTER TO BELIEVE, HOPE AND TRUST IN YEHOVAH THE TRUE GOD THAN IN SOMEONE ELSE. IT IS BETTER TO OBEY YEHOVAH THE TRUE GOD THAN MEN BETTER BE A CONVERT OF YEHOVAH THE TRUE GOD RATHER THAN BEING A CONVERT OF ERROR RIFE SECTS GODLINESS IS SUPERIOR TO SECTARIANISM Psalm 51:10-13 ASV Create in me a clean heart, O God; And renew a right spirit within me. [11] Cast me not away from thy presence; And take not thy holy Spirit from me. [12] Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; And uphold me with a willing spirit. [13] Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; And sinners shall be converted unto thee. Psalm 25:8 ASV Good and upright is Jehovah: Therefore will he instruct sinners in the way. Psalm 119:68 ASV Thou art good, and doest good; Teach me thy statutes. Psalm 86:10-12 ASV For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: Thou art God alone. [11] Teach me thy way, O Jehovah; I will walk in thy truth: Unite my heart to fear thy name. [12] I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with my whole heart; And I will glorify thy name for evermore. Isaiah 25:1 ASV O Jehovah, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things, even counsels of old, in faithfulness and truth. Psalm 4:3-5 ASV But know that Jehovah hath set apart for himself him that is godly: Jehovah will hear when I call unto him. [4] Stand in awe, and sin not: Commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah [5] Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, And put your trust in Jehovah. Proverbs 14:34 ASV Righteousness exalteth a nation; But sin is a reproach to any people.

[@killdozer7530]

Arius is not accused of claiming Christ was made ex nihilo. Nor does Trinitarianism claim the Son is unbegotten. The opposite, actually.

[@MultipleGrievance]

The Adventists get quite a few things right. I'm actually pleasantly surprised. This whole keeping of the sabbath thing though, Doesn't really fly.

[@honoriuc]

The Son was begotten before time existed, so the Son has no beginning. Time appeared when the Universe came into existence and will disappear when the Universe collapses into nothingness.

[@williambruyette1567]

So truthful. Time begins at the beginning of creation and is tied to matter and movement. Certain entities were created prior to this and are outside of time and space as we know it. What humans fail to understand is they are Devine as well. As was the son of man. Connected to all creation.

[@MaisyK]

Marcion the earlier christians, taught Christ descended from heaven in Capernaum - why did God who made Aadam from dust, fully human couldn't do the same with his Son. Marcionites didn't accept the Torah was anything to do with Jesus.

[@preapple]

That Muhammad was an Arian heretic is supported by several ancient Christian documents. Constantine Porphyrogentinitus, the fourth emperor of the Byzantine Empire, wrote in the 10th century, in his , that he [Muhammad] was believed because a certain Arain, who pretended to be a monk, testified falsely in his support for love of gain. (Constantine Porphyrogentinitus, De Administrando Imperio, 14, trans. R.J.H. Jenkins, )John the Deacon also recounts an Arian origin to Islam: The Saracens [Muslims] are intent and zealous to deny the divinity of the Word of God. On all sides, they array themselves against him, eager to show that he is neither God nor the Son of God. Indeed, it was only because their false prophet [Muhammad] was the disciple of an Arian that he gave them this godless and impious teaching. (Refutations of the Saracens by Theodore Abu Qurrah, the Bishop of Haran, as Reported by John the Deacon, GK86-88, trans. John C. Lamoreaux).Islam’s link with Arianism was affirmed by one of the oldest non-Muslims writers on Islam, St. John of Damascus, when he, in the 8th century, wrote:This man [Muhammad], after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. (St. John of Damascus, On Heresies, 101, trans. Frederic H. Chase, Jr., )

[@thaplugg5028]

I know this sound crazy but Arius still lives on earth, he is within me & will be the King over this Era of the Earth . I am Iam has returned!

[@bashkillszombies]

HAH! I wrote the above before even looking at your channel. His content is his uncle stoned on drugs. And of course he's sub-Saharan African. Because everyone knows Arius wuz kangz yo.

[@awaken_spirit93]

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made...The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:1-14

[@fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676]

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

[@Seekparabolic]

He was stating the truth, jesus is not god and this only adds to the point, the gate is narrow and many will preach in my name, be careful parroting a rulers theology, do you believe jesus talked to himself or god appeared to jesus moses and Elijah and spoke yet they are one??? only my father knows the hour, its very clear

[@OnerousEthic]

I must confess that for years, I have idolized Arius as the (later) occidental champion of (earlier) Asian (Vedic) Advaita (non-dualism), which for me, was and is intuitive and easy to understand. I was initiated into a non-dualistic Hindu/Buddhist sect over 45 years ago. The organizing principal has a name: Advaita. That is the original (pre-Christian) linguistic topic of this video. But it has not been mentioned yet. Because Arius did not have it in his lexicon. I am now five minutes into this video, and I am finding it very difficult to understand. It is as if duality is coded into our (occidental) DNA… Now, I am more convinced than ever that Occidental theologians are incapable of transcending their dualism. And this video is proof positive. It seems this video is wrapped up in Trinitarian semantics. Non-dualism is conceptually and linguistically foreign to the occidental mindset. They are genetically incapable, or at least handicapped, of understanding this most fundamental teaching of their avowed master. No wonder Yeshua came for the Jews - here we are, two thousand years later, and The Gentiles have proven themselves unworthy and incapable: and not jut the laity, but the highest level of their collective ecclesiastical authority. They just don’t get it. I hereby, in the name of Yeshua and Arius, declare The Roman church as void and defunct, and The Common Era complete. This is the dawning of The Age of Aquarius. This is what Yeshua would do. Over one hundred years ago, Blavatsky et al were successful in bringing The Dharma west. Now the time has come to move The Dharma east. The Age of Aquarius shall be co-absorbed by and with Advaita. And Trinitarianism shall perish from this earth. It has served its purpose. Now it is time to move on.

[@lukehall8151]

The belief in a difference between the occident and the orient IS dualism.... And it's childish nonsense.

[@notyouraveragecomment1328]

Interesting 🤔 What's your thoughts on Islamic theology? And do you believe that the occidental heresy only plaguing the west/Aryans?

[@OnerousEthic]

@@notyouraveragecomment1328 This is the first I have heard of any “Occidental Heresy”, and I find no references online. So I must ask for clarification. I don’t know enough about Islamic theology to comment, and I regret my ignorance. Please continue!

[@OnerousEthic]

@@notyouraveragecomment1328 I have recently come to find that the defects of the oriental (Tantric) system align extremely well with the strengths of the German idealist philosophers from the 15th through the 20th centuries. Nietzsche and Carl Jung and Heidegger and Hegel. These are but few of the souls at the table. They more than Christ serve to set Abraham’s table.

[@notyouraveragecomment1328]

@@OnerousEthic by the "occidental heresy" (it was a poor choice of words) That Greco-Roman polytheistic/pagan religion couldn't fathom the idea of one, undivided god.. Unlike Islam where they believe in one god..

[@JM-de6pw]

Christian egypt past present and future by montague fowler explains early 2nd century arianism that kept trying to infiltrate the alexandrian church and the numerous councils that fought against all heresies, very interesting the dispute was before the council of nicea

[@abdishakurali8581]

Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammad were telling people the same thing that God alone should be worshiped and bad things should be left alone.

[@theredlightning2491]

The saddest part about the trinity and seeing jesus as anything more than a man is that it down plays the sacrifice jesus made. Think about it if jesus was god / divine then how could he sin ? Every day jesus battle temptations just like we all do but he didnt sin. He was like each one of us human and yet he did not sin. Calling jesus god completely ignores all the suffering jesus had to go through

[@justintran3265]

Matthew 28:18 reveals the whole debacle. “And Jesus spake unto them saying, All powers is given unto me in heaven and on earth” , he is clearly giving credence to his father, our God and his, as well as saying that he has powers, of whom his father, our God and his has given him. And when the Son Jesus decides to do something miraculous in your lives, you claim that he is God. And that’s the flaw, but it shouldn’t be because, Matthew 28:18 States that there is One God. Don’t look past it and start reasoning. That’s what trinitarians did, they started reasoning, instead of just reading it for what it is.

[@mysticotton]

the son has been before all with the father and spirit to deny that this is true is to worship a created god the son he is un createdwith the spirit and father . love this video

[@MrSparkums]

Micah 5:2But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; 👉whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.👈 3Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth 👉bread and wine👈: and he was the priest of the most high God.19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

[@bigguns126]

… has any one ever heard of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? They teach this exactly pretty much. That the father and some are separated beings but one purpose

[@donalddesrosiersdsd5381]

Oddly Islam is more like arian Christianity and was also considered a Christian heresy originally.

[@mrhassan6142]

Arius said the truth..

[@andrejuthe]

Another fallacy of the video is that it asserts that it is a contradiction to say that the Son is eternal and that he is "caused" (generated) by the Father. There is no contradiction is saying that the Son is *eternally generated* from the Father just like we say that God is omnipotent by virtue of being divine although there was no time when God's omnipotence was created. The speaker of this video knows nothing about logic!

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

Believing Jesus is the Christ the begotten Son of God, born to the virgin Mary, is considered heresy by most "Christians".

[@MediaComputer-pt6fx]

what I know from the history is that in reality the Prophet of Islam had sent letters to Heraclius, Muqauqis and Negus to accept Islam. They were all kings in the Christian Empire, the Negus was a believer, while Heraclius reportedly preferred his kingdom.

[@notrikleinad4918]

This video has a lot of inaccuracies

[@hershelfowler6257]

The Son of God is a title not a birthright, all priest and sages are Sons of God, the trick is the sacrifice the Son is willing to take.

[@abdumilad6861]

Misinformation, Arius was a Libyan from Pentapolis, not Alexandrian.

[@kiwihans100]

Arius was in comparison a better christian that Athanasius who was a clever, cunning, ambitious & power seeking individual who recieved much of his popularity by 'sucking up ' to the pagan emporer of the day! Arius may have not been quite right about the relationship of the son to the Father, but he was totally right to agree with our Lord that "The Father is greater than I am".

[@guitaoist]

Church: Jesus is God! Jesus: “To sit on my right hand & on my left hand is not mine to give.” "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God." "Whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me." "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all."

[@calincucuietu8220]

You are not native English speaker, so what is your native language?

[@roberthalf1094]

Arius was unfortunately hung up on the concept of time. He understood nothing about eternity. And takes to Hell even today in the Unitarian and Jehovah's Witnesses hordes of souls. For without the Sacraments of the Catholic Church no one attains Truth.

[@tombuddy100]

How do you explain "THE ONLY TRUE GOD" verse, Jesus talking to his Father? (John 17:3) And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.

[@gees8999]

God is one, he has no son or wife…. Only God forgives sins and he is the only one who decides who enters heaven or hell…. He is the Lord of Jesus, Ishmael, Abraham and all the prophets, and their message is one, which is they call to the oneness of God and Worship him and avoid the path of Satan in order to survive and enter heaven

[@candidob8683]

Further scripture would have to be explained. FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT Called God Phil. 1:2 John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9 Acts 5:3-4 Creator Isaiah 64:8 John 1:3; Col. 1:15-17 Job 33:4, 26:13 Resurrects 1 Thess. 1:10 John 2:19, 10:17 Rom. 8:11 Indwells 2 Cor. 6:16 Col. 1:27 John 14:17 Everywhere 1 Kings 8:27 Matt. 28:20 Psalm 139:7-10 All-knowing 1 John 3:20 John 16:30; 21:17 1 Cor. 2:10-11

[@normanmcdermid4257]

The fact of the matter is that Arius is correct. How can God, who is omnipotent die? How can God, who is immortal die?

[@robertnieten7259]

I am mortal, but my spirit is immortal. My body can die , but not my spirit.

[@AstariahJW]

​@@robertnieten7259 Your spirit is not immortal Bible says the dead are unconscious of nothing at all Christendom adopted pagan teachings such as trinity hellfire and immortality of the soul

[@УрошКалиниченко]

It is sad that Arians still remain within the 21st century. The word was with God and the Word WAS god. If Christ is the Logos, he is God.

[@History_MadeMe_Catholic]

It doesn’t demand a beginning.. that’s where Arius went wrong.. Athanasius of Alexandria made that know in his response ‘On the Incarnation’… John 1 in the beginning was the WORD, the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God.. From first church historian, Eusebius to todays historian Ramsay MacMullen ‘Christianizing the Roman Empire: 100AD-400AD’ This video is just another distortion of history.. like 19-20th century atheistic ideologies trying to twist up history to support this false idea that Christianity is bloody and spread by force and somehow religion is more poisonous than Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot combined… They never have academic sources.. Out of the mouth of two or three a truth is established.. Ramsay MacMullen sources other historians as well throughout the whole history book of Ancient Rome… Not to mention the 10 volume set ‘Ante Nicene fathers’ only one of the 10 books is filled with the writers from the other 9 books equally calling out the heresies of the first 3 centuries…

[@aenarredrain946]

Simple, Arian believe Jesus is born normal not divine and was created by God(God always exist and Jesus always be the son(Creation of God) and not divine and God the father alone is divine thats it is heresy among christians

[@blkshk1]

So your saying that the billions of angels had no beginnings...then how did they come to be? Duuuuuhhhhh!

[@abdishakurali8581]

They are the people who stand on the right path before Prophet Muhammad

[@ChristianConspirator]

Arius didn't understand the difference between temporal and logical priority

[@_VISION.]

Sure buddy

[@DwozKuki]

There cannot be absolute true doctrine in Christianity because God cannot be fully discovered and fully understand by our human brain. Isn’t funny that We accept the fact that God is out of space and time therefore cannot be fully understood but still considered others believe or doctrine as a heretics. The only doctrine as a Christian we should follow is to believe in the salvation of Jesus Christ because He is the only way through heaven. Doctrines are made up for the social well-being of a congregation, all these church’s doctrine will never lead us to Jesus! Only faith in Jesus will.

[@tongakhan230]

God's True Worshipers are not blind worshipers. Here is what Jesus told the Samaritan woman. (John 4:22) You worship what you do not know; WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW, The WE were Jesus and his fellow God-fearing Jews.

[@spiritoftruth56]

Arius was correct in his belief that the Word was begotten of God. ........................................................................................................ In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was [as] God. “YHVH himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth, when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men." (Proverbs 8:22-31 Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and came to be in the likeness of men. More than that, when he found himself in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient as far as death, yes, death on a stauros. For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:5-11) The archangel, (Who is as God); the only one begotten of God. Mi'cha-el became the son of man, Christ Jesus. This must be true.... .....because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an *archangel’s* voice and with God’s trumpet. (1 Thessalonians 4:16). .

[@Geschaefer]

I am officially an Arian Catholic. I'm born and raised catholic and I've always questioned why we worship and pray to a son of god instead of God himself. I am so happy to hear that there are others like me.

[@Jan-cz3vx]

God bless you brother. We are all sons of God!

[@Geschaefer]

@@Jan-cz3vx Thank you brother. God bless you as well. Glory to God.

[@gamer__dud10]

Just become a Muslim

[@DarienWhite-vm2hb]

Arian was not catholic. He was persecuted by it.

[@Geschaefer]

​@BeachDude0211I don't think any of my previous replies to you are being posted

[@E.OrthodoxMHNIN]

Constantine was baptized late in life before he died. When he was baptized he was baptized by a pro-Arius Christian, Eusebius of Nicomedia, who was also a student of Lucian of Antioch... like Arius.

[@bashkillszombies]

I always hear people talk as though Constantine didn't convert on his deathbed and was totally a Christian. It's so insidious.

[@blockie9706]

Arianism is based. It's the true religion of what Jesus Christ (Son of God) has teach the human.

[@OnerousEthic]

…and your point is? Please finish your statement, as it is currently incomplete imho…

[@E.OrthodoxMHNIN]

@@OnerousEthic The idea that Constantine had Arius and his ideology essentially erased for history is a totally fallacy. I don’t remember the specifics A-historical claim made by this video and I’m not going to watch it again because I was a waste of time the first time, but it Undoubtedly made the Constantine had all Arian books burned or otherwise forced everyone out of Arianism argument. I’m sure you can see how that relates to the historical facts I highlighted.

[@OnerousEthic]

@@E.OrthodoxMHNIN thank you for the courtesy of your reply. But now I am more confused. You seem to be contradicting yourself, but I am confident that you are not. And so it goes…

[@zammbaker7098]

saint arius is truthful man..he follows Abrahamic true teaching of Oneness God... there is no threenity obsession in Abrahamic religion

[@aymeneaymene111]

I looked at two writings emanating from Muhammad that struck me, in his time, that is to say in the 7th century, he sends a letter to Heraclius, emperor of Byzantium inviting him to embrace Islam, it was a sober letter, in the end and this is the important thing he said to him: "if you refuse, then you will bear the sins of the Arians", yet at that time, only the great figures of the church knew these truths especially the ideological conflict over the divinity of Jesus, a conflict that had already begun since the 2nd century and lasted until that time. The 2nd written is a hadith certified by the Muslim specialists of the Hadith as being authentic and in which Muhammad says "Before God sent me, he observed men, Arabs and non-Arabs, he despised them, EXCEPT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK "and knowing the message of Muhammad who pronounces pure and absolute monotheism, the latter regarded these communities of Christians as true believers, and he proclaimed very clearly that these Christians were on the right path. So tell me who is right and who is wrong. That is why I say without a shadow of a doubt that all the Christian dogma established after the alliance sealed between the Trinitarian bishops and the imperial power in 325 is doubtful and does not reflect in any way the message of Christ.

[@0397rb]

Abraham for Father's worshipped a Goddess called Nanna or sin, what, makes you think anyone is following Abrahamic religions correctly stop that foolishness

[@nijomumin6549]

@@aymeneaymene111 ...interesting,...but, did you know that after having lost the theological battle at Nicaea, Arius is exiled to Illyria (modern day Bosnia) where his followers continue to practice the religion,...they called them ''Christians'' ...not Catholic or Orthodox Christians,...just Christians,...until 15 century,... when the Ottomans arrived,...they converted to Islam,...

[@massinissaziriamazigh8122]

Arius & geiseric 💪

[@Rebiai]

@Barry Woods false information aout Ibrahim

[@andrejuthe]

The reasoning of this video is illogical: A son cannot fail to have the same nature as his parents. My son is human as much as I am human, thus if the Son is 'literally' the Son of God, then he necessarily share the same nature (uncreated, eternal, omnipotent, etc). Thus from Arius own premises it follows that the Son of God cannot be created in time.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

Correct...Christ was begotten before time.

[@tongakhan230]

Sons have the same human form as their father who brought them into existence. But a son cannot be his own father. That would make no sense. Humans were created in God's image (genesis 1:26). That doesn't mean that humans are God too. All the mountains, trees and animals were created by God. That doesn't mean that these creations take on the same nature as the Creator. Jesus too was created in God's image (Colossians 1:15). That meant that Jesus reflected God-like qualities as do humans. Intelligence, the ability to communicate and listen among these. Just something to ponder over and help.

[@andrejuthe]

@@tongakhan230 Your reasoning implies that there is no difference between humans and angels, and no difference between these two Jesus. Besides stating that Jesus just was in the image of God in the sense of every human would be redundant since Jesus also was a man. The bible does not make redundant statement. The problem is that Colossians 1:15 does not teach that Jesus was *created* in God's image (you are reading in to the text what is not there) it states that the Son is the image of the invisible God. The term "first born before all created" does not mean "created before all created" (which is incoherent, one cannot be *created* before *all* things created). The term "first born" in middle eastern context at this time meant that you are the heir of all that you father owns. Thus, Colossians 1:15 is saying that The Son was the image of the invisible God and the heir of all that the Father has created. This interpretation fits the cultural context and is confirmed in the verse after which states that everything was created through him and *to* him.

[@tongakhan230]

@@andrejuthe : Colossians 1:15 clearly states that Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of all creation. God is no one's firstborn. God appoints Jesus as HEIR (Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:1,2). An HEIR is someone who would inherit some estate AFTER the owner dies. Since God will never die, his Firstborn son will be a permanent HEIR. The HEIR cannot be the owner. That would make no sense.

[@femiadewusi6011]

Isaiah 9: 6&7 : ....Mighty God, Eternal Father . Almighty Jesus

[@billmiller7800]

My God I’ve been strueith this for years. If God wanted us to believe in the Trinity as put forth He would have told us this. Now and who was Jesus praying to in the garden and on the cross ? Thank you for such a good clear presentation!

[@tsrs6983]

He was praying to the Father! And whom do we pray to? John 14:14, 2 Cor 12:8-9, Rom 10:13, 1Cor 1:2…

[@0397rb]

if god was real he would show itself

[@tsrs6983]

@@0397rb he has shown himself John 1:14 “and the word became flesh and dwelt among us”.

[@0397rb]

@@tsrs6983 something you need to know is that when you see . words like "us" and them, it show's you that the Bible is for a, specific group of people that lived in a particular place thousands of years ago, it has nothing to do with today. Gods hasn't shown himself to anyone living in the last 2000 years. in the old testament God was known today all you got is belief..

[@tsrs6983]

@@0397rb Not true my friend, I can share my testimony with you if you want, however don’t make generalized assumptions about what God has done or hasn’t done in the lives of billions for the last 2000 years that’s quite an ignorant remark. I quoted the book of John because the Bible is the Word of God and that’s what I trust in. What’s your standard what do you trust in O man.

[@basittak6836]

Jesus was neither God nor a son, rather he was a prophet of God Reject Trinity accept Tawheed ☝️

[@massinissaziriamazigh8122]

I'm from algeria respect to arius & geiseric 💪

[@fadelaelzalet8674]

He is Libyan Libya 🇱🇾

[@mixyoutube7184]

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