What Did Rhodes Must Fall Achieve? | Editors Unplugged

Many of Britain's most noteworthy educational establishments still bear the hallmarks of imperialism and structural inequality. The Rhodes Must Fall movement aimed to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University - Sky News' Foreign Affairs Editor Sam Kiley and Social Affairs Editor Afua Hirsch (both Oxford alumni) discuss what effect they think the movement has had.
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[@augnkn93043]

I can't find any reliable references to the smallpox claim using this google search "rhodes matabele smallpox blankets"

[@grahamt5924]

That's because there aren't any. Never happened

[@Lachrie]

Cecil Rhodes didn't commit genocide against the Ndebele (Matabele). Sam Kiley has got it wrong. According to genocide expert Ben Kiernan, founding Director of the Genocide Studies Program at Yale University: "Cecil Rhodes PREVENTED an escalation into genocide". See Ben Kiernan, "From Irish Famine to Congo Reform: Nineteenth-Century Roots of International Human Rights Law and Activism", in René Provost, and Payam Akhavan (eds.), Confronting Genocide (Dordrecht: 2011), 42.

[@Max-ht9hf]

Afua went to Oxford, does that count as ‘privilege’!?

[@HShango]

i don't even bother with universities in england anymore to be fair, expensive luxury now, that it is an education/necessity/right.

[@HelenaW999]

The way he kept talking over her and interrupting her was so obnoxious. She barely gets to finish any of what she’s saying, and he gets to walk away feeling smug. And also, great for him that his only memory of the Rhodes building is taking a nice nap... That’s why her story about the all-white Rhodes party was so important, but he cut her off.

[@FKtdyvan]

I was wondering who that guy is. What nonsense that his only memory of the Rhodes building was taking a nice nap there on the sofas or something like that. Then, he has the audacity to insinuate that he is the only one who knows Rhodes and the people who protest against his statute or something like don't know him.

[@nickbreen287]

Does removal of a statue change history? Is it your history to change?

[@nickbreen287]

***** We have to live with our history the good and the bad. Removing statues helps how exactly?

[@nickbreen287]

***** What has this to do with Hitler? In former communist countries they have statues of Stalin, and he was a magnitude worse than Hitler.

[@grandpa920]

Retelling of history reflecting a more complete and accurate account is what she's arguing for

[@lindaarmstrong2740]

Verbal and diarrhoea come to mind Afua 🤮.

[@claytonboening4176]

So the documentary I just watched claiming he took an invention of a maxim machine gun with 1400 men to thousands of African people is not true?

[@grahamt5924]

There was 750 white men and 1000 African men who fought the Matabele. There is no small pox blankets. Utter BS.

[@grahamt5924]

Read the journals of the men who where there. It's well documented what took place and most people have invented all sorts of things.

[@grahamt5924]

It was 750 whites and 1000 blacks who fought the Matabele who had guns and there where thousands of them.

[@paulduffy697]

Look forward not at the past..

[@benweya]

Paul Duffy this past is a large part of our present.

[@grahamt5924]

This guy and his genocide claims.

[@booboo4706]

The Black woman should move to Africa and be with her people. I'm not interested in hearing her attempts to make Whites feel guilty. I feel only pride.

[@catinthehat906]

Africa's current problems are less about Rhodes and more about despots like Charles Taylor, Paul Biya, Abacha, Toure and Mugabe who have systematically looted their own countries and oppressed their own people.

[@paulconnor3712]

Afua is British

[@cocoshenal7266]

Just takes a little empathy from white people to understand whats going on.... I dont know why thats so hard 🤔