What Did Sansa Really Think of Jon Snow?

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@majorjerk77
@majorjerk77 7 ай бұрын
I will say Jon and Sansa's reunion was probably one of the scenes in the show as it was one of the few genuinely happy moments
@MayDenless5739
@MayDenless5739 7 ай бұрын
It was certainly a scene in the show, well said
@hasanmehmood19
@hasanmehmood19 7 ай бұрын
It's wierd that it was much more heartfelt than Jon Arya reunion.
@melonheadgaming4254
@melonheadgaming4254 6 ай бұрын
@@MayDenless5739 it's plain and simply one of the scenes of all time
@saavedyv2
@saavedyv2 6 ай бұрын
​@@melonheadgaming4254😂😂😂
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape 6 ай бұрын
This is certainly one of threads on KZbin.
@enigma2114
@enigma2114 7 ай бұрын
Whoever made some of these fanart needs some therapy
@3malinkies
@3malinkies 7 ай бұрын
Odd as it may seem, there's a fairly sizable portion of book theorists who believe that Jon and Sansa are going to marry.
@sheepj2464
@sheepj2464 7 ай бұрын
There first cousins so there not seen as a problem in Westeros , Tywin and his wife were cousins
@varun009
@varun009 7 ай бұрын
First cousins marrying isn't Considered incest in westeros. Sisterbrides on the other hand are a big no no.
@Truck_Kun_Driver
@Truck_Kun_Driver 7 ай бұрын
Bro you read a series where an entire house marries their siblings LOL
@easy0828
@easy0828 7 ай бұрын
Half their children and grandchildren are insane@@sheepj2464
@subroy7123
@subroy7123 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure they'll meet up in the books. Thanks to Littlefinger, the Vale has prepared heavily for winter, hoardimg resources so that he can blackmail the other kingdoms come winter. Once Sansa controls the Vale, Jon will have to come to her for aid.
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape 7 ай бұрын
The books will NEVER be written It is truly ours now... Fanfiction is the only way
@user-uf9lz5wz4n
@user-uf9lz5wz4n 7 ай бұрын
Sansa will not take control of the Vale. Littlefinger rules the valley, and Sansa is a pawn in his game.
@subroy7123
@subroy7123 7 ай бұрын
@@user-uf9lz5wz4n Those are two unrelated statements. LF controls the Vale now. "Now" and "the future" are two different time periods. That's why character arcs exist.
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape 7 ай бұрын
@@subroy7123 then write it! Finish it your way, just like everyone else gets to now There is the show ending.... And there are fans Write it, or only the show ending exists
@brandonsalisbury7182
@brandonsalisbury7182 7 ай бұрын
@@hippiehillapeEven if the next book miraculously does get published in the next year or so after all this time it would make the wait for A Dream Of Spring even worst! Although I hate to admit it your probably right!
@tatalsaba
@tatalsaba 6 ай бұрын
Sansa is fond of Jon, even if she doesn't think about him much in the books, she used to call him her brother until her mother put a stop to it, and she does miss him (and everyone else from Winterfell) as revealed in her chapters in A feast for crows.
@pharma2546
@pharma2546 4 ай бұрын
Nah I know her kind. They miss u only when they need u. She played Jon in the show, never mentioned him until she needed safe haven
@tatalsaba
@tatalsaba 4 ай бұрын
@@pharma2546 And the show is famous for how well the writers stayed true to the characters and plot from the books. I'm talking about the book Sansa, not the televised trainwreck version of her.
@lina4210
@lina4210 4 ай бұрын
True, I was so pissed that the show portrayed her as a strident, stupid spoiled brat when in the books she couldn't be more different.@@tatalsaba
@tatalsaba
@tatalsaba 4 ай бұрын
@@lina4210 One of many characters they dropped on the ground, Jaime in the final few episodes is another example.
@samwise5486
@samwise5486 4 ай бұрын
​@@pharma2546you have never read the book wtf are u talking about
@Bob-lr2xp
@Bob-lr2xp 7 ай бұрын
They won't meet up in the books because they're not going to be written.
@hectorsanchez7880
@hectorsanchez7880 6 ай бұрын
😢
@viktoriag.6961
@viktoriag.6961 6 ай бұрын
I actually wanted to write that bit then saw your comment
@imranahmad-uh9fi
@imranahmad-uh9fi 6 ай бұрын
Oooofff critical hit
@NRV0
@NRV0 6 ай бұрын
I can feel the hurt from this comment and know you're not alone :'(
@webkid4567
@webkid4567 6 ай бұрын
Eh they'll be written even if it's by someone else after he's dead, the issue is will they come anywhere close to living up to all the insane expectations that are now behind them that he never intended nor thought was possible, or will they just be disappointments like the show was after they stopped adapting material. Just saying, if you're one of these people that think he's some kind of grifter just doing zero work, that's not a thing with novels at that level. He didn't write those original novels years ago to become cash cows, barely anyone even read them at first. For an author that's like birthing a piece of your soul into the world. Dude wasn't scamming the world, and idk if you noticed but even THOSE early novels took multiple years to finish and that was WITHOUT all that hype, criticism and expectation.
@viktoriag.6961
@viktoriag.6961 6 ай бұрын
The reunion in a tv series was one of the most powerful scenes! Especially considering there were no words spoken
@thelastbison2241
@thelastbison2241 7 ай бұрын
Joke on her; he is no bastard
@furkanefezerenuz7445
@furkanefezerenuz7445 7 ай бұрын
in the books he is and he's also dead never resurrected
@thelastbison2241
@thelastbison2241 7 ай бұрын
@@furkanefezerenuz7445He is unlikely to stay dead
@furkanefezerenuz7445
@furkanefezerenuz7445 7 ай бұрын
@@thelastbison2241 no stark children are wargs he won't come back but prolly his soul will warg into his direwolf ghost
@RishuKumar-kx7xz
@RishuKumar-kx7xz 7 ай бұрын
​@@furkanefezerenuz7445Least possible... If he warg in ghost , he will soon became just Wolf . And never again the John.
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon 7 ай бұрын
lol all teh Starks are wargs in the books except Sansa@@furkanefezerenuz7445
@ajl9772
@ajl9772 6 ай бұрын
Jon I believe thinks to himself that Sansa was his least favorite sibling, which makes sense. Robb was his bestfriend, Arya and Bran looked up to him. Rickon was just a toddler. Sansa was dreaming of being a queen and practicing acting like lady. Jon was a bastard and so she was thought to think of him as less.
@furkanefezerenuz7445
@furkanefezerenuz7445 6 ай бұрын
Yes and everytime sansa thought to herself she never missed a chance to highlight that jon's a bastard.she did that several times while talking to arya as well
@iris-xo
@iris-xo 5 ай бұрын
@@furkanefezerenuz7445 yeah because she looks up to her mother and grew up watching her mother talk badly about jon, she's a child
@FJP1485
@FJP1485 7 ай бұрын
I can imagine Jon leaving Night's Watch after he got revived by Melissandre rallying with him the wildlings as Howland Reed revealing his true parentage and Northern Lord's discussing about Rob's will of his chosen heir. On the other hand, Sansa will press her claim on the North as the 2nd oldest Stark child and is introduced as a bastard daughter of Lord Baelish who technically holds power on the Vale and the lord Paramount of Riverlands. JonSa for Stark Restoration.
@emperorsponge9208
@emperorsponge9208 7 ай бұрын
If she is revealed as a bastard of Baelish, how is she going to press her claim on the North? She wouldn’t be a child of a Stark, and bastards (especially girls) do not stand to inherit anything.
@evildrizzt1
@evildrizzt1 7 ай бұрын
Too linear of a storyline. GOT books has never been that straight forward.
@mattk4110
@mattk4110 7 ай бұрын
Wait sansa is baelish's daughter? What?
@yan9831van
@yan9831van 7 ай бұрын
​@@mattk4110in book they are hiding her real identity and saying everyone that she is Alayne Stone bastard of Littlefinger
@TheCrimsonfluf
@TheCrimsonfluf 7 ай бұрын
​@@mattk4110baelish spirits her away and passes her off as his daughter in the Vale. If anyone knew he had Sansa they would know he betrayed the Lannisters and the crown. She dyes her hair and pretends to be his bastard daughter.
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think they will be closer. She will support Jon as heir, perhaps. She's a girl after all and if she holds the Vale then they might be a united front.
@pcharl01
@pcharl01 7 ай бұрын
Makes one wonder if Arianne crowning Marcela as heir to Joffrey instead of Tommen is just a way to introduce the idea for Sansa.
@TheElochai
@TheElochai 7 ай бұрын
@@pcharl01 You see how that went for Marcela. I honestly think that she might be a united front with Jon because there are only so many Starks left and I think he might free her from creepy Littlefinger.
@GamesintoMovies
@GamesintoMovies 4 ай бұрын
You're right, they probably won't meet up in the books. That would require the books to written
@3malinkies
@3malinkies 7 ай бұрын
I was confused by what you said at the end but I think what you meant to say was, "In the books, they probably won't meet up the way they did in the show." Instead of, " *They probably won't meet in the books.* (pause) Like they did in the show."
@chef___
@chef___ 7 ай бұрын
"They won't meet in the books. Because they won't be finished."
@maou--sama
@maou--sama 7 ай бұрын
jon snow didn't revive in the books , so grrm can always make jon remain dead :)
@sumedhsukhdeve9117
@sumedhsukhdeve9117 7 ай бұрын
​@@chef___😭
@jimbo7551
@jimbo7551 7 ай бұрын
i’d read his rough drafts idgaf but as someone who’s purchased his work and invested my time in his world i do feel somewhat entitled to an ending Edit: As long as it’s not Dumb and Dumber’s ending.
@that_pan_chick8650
@that_pan_chick8650 7 ай бұрын
@@jimbo7551no matter how entitled you feel to an ending, you’re really not entitled to anything. If he wants the series to end with a dragon burning the world down then you’d honestly just have to deal with it right? Like what other choice would you have other than to whine about it?
@edward9232
@edward9232 7 ай бұрын
Arya was always closer to jon
@AldoHacha
@AldoHacha 7 ай бұрын
As crappy as the ñast season were, the meeting between Jon and the girls were lovely
@TheMuseSway
@TheMuseSway 7 ай бұрын
LOL seems like Sansa cared for Jon but didn't really give him much thought. XD
@DLR1997
@DLR1997 7 ай бұрын
Blame Catlin for that
@Onigirli
@Onigirli 5 ай бұрын
@@DLR1997 I don't really think they would've gotten along regardless. It took shared grief to connect them
@emta8149
@emta8149 5 ай бұрын
@@OnigirliI disagree, I think they were similar with their romanticized views of the world. They wouldn’t have had a lot of hobbies in common, but they would have a decent relationship. I mean even when they bond over their traumas, their traumas will be similar in the fact that they both had rude awakenings of the harsh reality of the world. But I do agree that part of their deep connection in the show is that they meet each other at their lowest point.
@JW-dp4we
@JW-dp4we 4 ай бұрын
This is true. Sansa expected to be a fairytale princess and Jon thought he’d have epic adventures alongside his uncle and the stalwart, highly qualified brothers of the Night’s Watch (not a bunch of rapists and criminals).
@user-qv4bp7vg6u
@user-qv4bp7vg6u 4 ай бұрын
She doesn't care about jon, she only had that thought bc she was told jon was lord commander, then she reflected that she is bastard too bc her parents re dead too.
@yurp7444
@yurp7444 7 ай бұрын
I just realized that her 'lowly bastard half' brother Is who Sansa believed was her only brother left. The way GOT humbled these lil kids. 🚶🏾‍♂️🚶🏾‍♂️🚶🏾‍♂️
@seanbuckner2970
@seanbuckner2970 7 ай бұрын
I just want to start children to reunit to look after, and protect each other. I think they deserve that much at least.
@albertotejedorgauna
@albertotejedorgauna 6 ай бұрын
knowing GRR they would start fucking eachother inmediatly
@roguecrow998
@roguecrow998 7 ай бұрын
I mean eventually they will meet up but in a different time and place and situation for sure
@tramonto1965
@tramonto1965 7 ай бұрын
the moment of their reunion in the show was very heartwarming though ...not for long since after that she suddenly "built character" wasn't happy and showed some dissatisfaction with Jon being the king in the north which made me hate her
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 ай бұрын
How? Jon is dead in the books. Last time I checked, the other books have not been written and probably won't be.
@danielawesome36
@danielawesome36 7 ай бұрын
Remember that time Sansa(and Jeyne) had a crush on a Jon lookalike? No?
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon 7 ай бұрын
They were crushing on Beric, Loras and Renly in the books who look nothing like jon snow
@johnnk3256
@johnnk3256 7 ай бұрын
Jon isn't mentioned to be handsome anywhere. He's said to look like Ned, who's not particularly handsome either. Even his wife said so.
@cinnamunbun
@cinnamunbun 7 ай бұрын
​​​​@@bonbonvegabonWaymar Royce was Sansa's first crush. In AFFC, she thinks about their first meeting when he stayed at Winterfell before joining the Night's Watch. He has the same physical attributes as Jon
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 5 ай бұрын
waymar described as northern looking. Arya and Alys have northern looks. so, Sansa has crush on them too??
@cinnamunbun
@cinnamunbun 5 ай бұрын
@@Arya_25 Well Waymar is from the Vale not the North so that rules out the North having any monopoly on dark hair and grey eyes.
@akbrahma7739
@akbrahma7739 7 ай бұрын
Jon has unlimited choices, I don't know how he's not the hero of this story.
@srbtlevse16
@srbtlevse16 6 ай бұрын
who makes this artwork??? 😭😭😭
@nanadecarvalho7840
@nanadecarvalho7840 3 ай бұрын
Mentally troubled people 😅
@ElLocoAl512
@ElLocoAl512 7 ай бұрын
JonSa for the win ❤
@MrsGiovanellaAline
@MrsGiovanellaAline 6 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@clover6236
@clover6236 4 ай бұрын
Yeees❤
@dasdeke
@dasdeke 5 ай бұрын
I know people have their issues with the books and the show, but that reunion between Sansa and Jon was some good television.
@SLrandomshitposting
@SLrandomshitposting 7 ай бұрын
l just want the stark and targ lines to continue with dragons and direwolves
@JW-dp4we
@JW-dp4we 4 ай бұрын
I love that little flashback in the first book where Robb lures Sansa into the crypts below Winterfell and Jon pops out of the darkness covered in flour, scaring the shit out of Sansa and sending her running back upstairs. 😂💀 I wish the show had more moments like that.
@Jonchua1
@Jonchua1 6 ай бұрын
They were not close in the books really at all. She didn't 'dislike him', but they certainly were not friends.
@cia0924
@cia0924 7 ай бұрын
It’s heavily likely in the books Stannis will defeat the Boltons. The question is whether it’s with Jon at his side or one comes to the others aid at the final stage of the battle. My guess is regardless Sansa, Littlefinger, the Vale will come to Winterfell either during or after the battle to press Sansa’s claim to the North. Stannis will have to make a choice then and likely he will side with her because legally she is the heir and he needs the Vales support.
@RishuKumar-kx7xz
@RishuKumar-kx7xz 7 ай бұрын
Isn't Rickon is next heir... If Davos successful
@karinaashmon
@karinaashmon 7 ай бұрын
Until Jon says that's my little sister not his daughter.
@cia0924
@cia0924 7 ай бұрын
@@RishuKumar-kx7xz honestly I’m not sure about Rickon. If Davos is successful in bringing Rickon to Winterfell, I can see him being manipulated by Sansa/LF the same way Tommen is by Cersei/Margery.
@sarmatiancougar7556
@sarmatiancougar7556 4 ай бұрын
Show Stannis was intended to be a confused fanatic that sinks himself Book Stannis is a competent general so I see no reason why he would lose to the Boltons Martin doesn’t kill characters just to get rid of them
@nicmagtaan1132
@nicmagtaan1132 4 ай бұрын
My guess is stannis would die defending the realm vs the others
@Adones09
@Adones09 7 ай бұрын
the end of this video made me feel "uncomfortable". That being said, I know that in the original outline, from G.R.R.M., Arya and Jon were supposed to "get together".
@chrismichael6048
@chrismichael6048 7 ай бұрын
Jon and Sansa=Ned and Catelyn 2.0
@thedemocraticfilipino6417
@thedemocraticfilipino6417 7 ай бұрын
Upon reading this comment. I was like "dear lord they are half sib-" and I'm like oh nvm, "cousins." and also incest is like GRRM's thing for some reason.
@SeptonFi
@SeptonFi 6 ай бұрын
Their 18 year old children in the future = "Maawwmm, Daaad, you mu-mu-muh-make me ha-haaa-haaappy!" *heads bobble back and forth with speech* 50 years late: "Rise for his grace, Med Stark, The Retard Wolf, ruler of the six kingdoms, protector of the realm etc. etc. and his brothers Bran the Builder and Bob the Builder!".
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 6 ай бұрын
@@thedemocraticfilipino6417In the books, Jon has not been revealed to be a Targaryen, or anything other than Ned’s bastard. That’s all on the show.
@thedemocraticfilipino6417
@thedemocraticfilipino6417 6 ай бұрын
@@goomba8170 GRRM confirmed it to be true anyways... So idk.
@Onigirli
@Onigirli 5 ай бұрын
@@SeptonFi They're not Targs, incest won't become a way of life and they'll branch out genetically after this one marriage. If GRRM has any sense he'll legitimize Jonsa and let it be the first proper step in correcting the wrongs of the show.
@ludwiglanestudios
@ludwiglanestudios 3 ай бұрын
"Sansa doesn't think much at all." There, fixed it for you.
@deannas2778
@deannas2778 7 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that thought the show relationship between Jon and Sansa was getting weird for a minute? There are definitely times where it seems like since it was almost jealous of Danny being with Jon. All the incest in these stories got me messed up.
@michaelastasova4555
@michaelastasova4555 7 ай бұрын
No, D&D just took significant parts of Dany and Sansa's characters from books. Sansa is the only ordinary character if you think about it. Her power is based on her name only. So she has to be soft in order to accomplish her goals and is always used by other players - ussually those characters are characters with hard power. Dany on the other hand tries to be soft but she has the hard power to rely on, they are complete opposites. also Sansa's family was killed by Targaryen Mad king.. And in the show they forgot to build that contrast up because they rushed it.
@ladymire
@ladymire 7 ай бұрын
That “getting weird” atmosphere was present in the books as well. Read Jon’s narrations in the book and it’s not exactly a pure “brother-sisterly” relationship there either. I think that’s what D&D were touching up on.
@john56801
@john56801 7 ай бұрын
Nah, womens is like that. My sisters all hiss at whatever woman I bring around.
@shahriarhakim6673
@shahriarhakim6673 7 ай бұрын
​@@john56801😂😂😂
@sounsure9108
@sounsure9108 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t notice creepy vibes but definitely jealous I have a brother and we a close in age and close as children and I didn’t like him have girlfriends ( or dating my friend) until I was no longer a teenager
@shadyloc4018
@shadyloc4018 4 ай бұрын
I hope they somehow see each other again. If not in twow then in ados
@bullseye1727
@bullseye1727 7 ай бұрын
They’ll probably meet up after he is named king or warden of the north. I like for how much shit Cat and Sansa gave to him he now has a better claim to the north thanks to Stannis. And has a better claim to the north and the Riverlands Thanks to Rob. I can’t wait to see how they both react in the books.
@stelatrindade9661
@stelatrindade9661 7 ай бұрын
Can you explain why Stannis gave him a better chance to the North? I haven't gotten very far yet.
@bullseye1727
@bullseye1727 7 ай бұрын
@@stelatrindade9661 Stannis was on a campaign in the north. the Bolton served house Lannister. Sansa was the last known legitimate Stark, and was married to Tyrion. To win the north he offered Jon to leave the watch and become warden of the north to rally the other northern houses. As long as he married a wildling woman to unite the wildlings to his cause and the north.
@ucnguyenanh9414
@ucnguyenanh9414 7 ай бұрын
Rickon would be more likely to be named ruler of the North than Jon. Rickon was litterally a Stark version of Aegon the Unlikely.
@karinaashmon
@karinaashmon 7 ай бұрын
​@@ucnguyenanh9414reckons gon canibul
@devantaraazof4365
@devantaraazof4365 7 ай бұрын
In the books probably by the time they reunite Jon would have retake the North from the Bolton
@roguecrow998
@roguecrow998 7 ай бұрын
​@Lucius_Aureliandon't think Stannis will live long until Rickon returns dude has two big battles to fight and then he wants to go back to defend the wall. what a legend
@ThiccEagle
@ThiccEagle 7 ай бұрын
Seahawks do not deserve to go the playoffs and I would rather them go 8-9. 1) They would have a better chance of Carroll getting fired (although still unlikely with current ownership) or perhaps better chance Carroll retires if the fan base really turns against him. 2) 8-9 would get a 1st round draft pick around #14 rather than around #20 if Hawks get bounced in the wild card round. I’ve written off this season (as many fans have) unless the Hawks can show me something different on both sides of the ball. This is the season of apathy
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 6 ай бұрын
"they probably won't meet up in the books, like they did in the show." No, there would have to be books for that to happen, and it never will.
@jdsosa3895
@jdsosa3895 7 ай бұрын
Confirmed Jonsa is real
@RishuKumar-kx7xz
@RishuKumar-kx7xz 7 ай бұрын
What she said
@johnnk3256
@johnnk3256 7 ай бұрын
Nope...
@Wandasolosurfavs
@Wandasolosurfavs 5 ай бұрын
Wtf
@verduruler
@verduruler 5 ай бұрын
wait really? is it from the recent books cuz I don't follow
@InevitableTruth.
@InevitableTruth. 7 ай бұрын
Um why are they sus on most of the pictures shown?
@alexiamelo644
@alexiamelo644 6 ай бұрын
I think Jon and Sansa ending up together makes so much sense😅
@iris-xo
@iris-xo 5 ай бұрын
same
@clover6236
@clover6236 4 ай бұрын
I agree ❤
@prdaisy2
@prdaisy2 4 ай бұрын
I agree and they would have a strong hold of the seven kingdoms.
@mr.tomatohead3709
@mr.tomatohead3709 3 ай бұрын
Jon's Targaryen blood too strong 💀
@chrismichael6048
@chrismichael6048 7 ай бұрын
Jon x Sansa romance are much more healthier and less "ewww" compared to Jon x Dany romance. Before any Jonerys fans try to bash me for being bias on Jonsa, I actually love both pairings. Dany and Sansa are both my favourite heroines and I absolutely hate how ugly S8 made their on-screen rivalry. I really wish for love triangle plot between 3 of them; Dany and Sansa 'fighting' for Jon's affection while Jon is torn between his cousin and aunt. 😁😁😁😁😁😁
@thejurijo9388
@thejurijo9388 7 ай бұрын
I am curious, why would it be healthier? Personally I find Jon×Sansa 'ewww' in the same way that I find Jon×Arya 'ewww'. What is your opinion of Jon×Arya as a ship?
@chrismichael6048
@chrismichael6048 7 ай бұрын
@@thejurijo9388 despite both Sansa and Arya are Jon's cousin by blood, Jon's relationship dynamics with both are different. I prefer Jonsa than Jonrya. Jonrya romance felt much more 'ewww' compared to Jonsa. Even though based on Westeros and Northener tradition, both Jonsa and Jonrya are acceptable/permissible, but Jonrya may not be suitable since Jonrya relationship are more 'sibling-like' rather than romantic. On AO3, there are so many Jonrya fanfiction romance that made me felt 'ewww'. I prefer Arya being together with Gendry. Gendrya are much more healthier.
@sarmatiancougar7556
@sarmatiancougar7556 4 ай бұрын
Both kind of bad If we forget that it’s GoT for a moment both relationships look absolutely revolting
@HerbCoswellBornAgain
@HerbCoswellBornAgain 2 ай бұрын
Or even better. A love triangle between Jon, Sansa, and Val.
@juleyse2431
@juleyse2431 4 ай бұрын
Imaginng those two potentionally never meeting is the saddest thing I heard all day... This was such a happy moment in the series...
@LouieOcean2
@LouieOcean2 7 ай бұрын
Jon should get with Sansa, yeah there cousins but in GOT universe that’s kinda normal lol.
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 7 ай бұрын
no he should not and she is married to Tyrion
@johnnk3256
@johnnk3256 7 ай бұрын
Ewww.
@Nadamos
@Nadamos 4 ай бұрын
I hope yall love your siblings like the stark children. As a Hispanic guy my sibling are ride or die, sometimes above our parents. We even have cousin brother/Sister, you might too, if you haven realized it. A cousin born around the same time as you specifically to keep each other company.
@holitinne
@holitinne 7 ай бұрын
I was rooting for a Jon and Sansa marriage. It’d make the most sense naratively and their union would be the accumulation of ASIOF. 1. Kinda incest yet not really (Ned parents were 1st cousins) and Sansa was raised to avoid Jon and look down on him. 2. Torn together and reunited after the world tore itself apart. 3. A Stark and a Targaryan again bond together. An overlooked romance. 4. Sansa always wanted a prince and Jon is by birthright the KING.
@resurrectionevil6581
@resurrectionevil6581 7 ай бұрын
number 4 i get the same vibes as "you'll never wed the prince, you'll wed the KING." it would be fitting for them plus it makes sense with he Targ and Stark union and each contain the fire and ice symbolism. yeah it would be sort of incesty, but its nothing new to ASOIAF. I can't see John ruling the south, he is made for the North so him being king of the North fits well with his ending, and in the North he is closer to the wildings (a group he connects to deeply). and i just can't see John and Dany as a couple, best friends in the same sense that Ned and Robert were but not romantically.
@holitinne
@holitinne 7 ай бұрын
@@resurrectionevil6581 I also liked it when Sansa wanted Joffrey Ned responsed with “I’ll find you someone worthy of you.” As if he had an idea who it was.
@resurrectionevil6581
@resurrectionevil6581 7 ай бұрын
@holitinne I wonder, though, would Ned have paired them up? Or maybe he was speaking more broadly at the time. Another theory I've heard is that Sansa will be queen of westeros, and she'd marry FAgeon. So a Blackfyre will sit the throne in the south, and the Targ/Stark will sit the throne in the north. I don't know much with ASOIAF (I refuse to read the books unless they get finished), so I'm not sure about the personality of the FAegon and if he would be "worthy" of Sansa. Just another theory I've heard
@ruthanneseven
@ruthanneseven 7 ай бұрын
​@resurrectionevil6581 Read the books, they are riveting! The films are so wrong, in so many ways. You've truly missed out! By refusing to read them, you've essentially cut off your nose to spite your face!
@resurrectionevil6581
@resurrectionevil6581 7 ай бұрын
@ruthanneseven trust me, I would love to read them. I actually have the first one on my book shelf, and I contemplated it, but I'm someone who gets really mad when I get into a story, and it has no ending. It's just so unsatisfying, lol but hey, if the fan made ones get done and get good reception maybe I'll give it a try lol
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper 7 ай бұрын
This is a ship I can get behind. Seeing them together is better than solving the final mystery and that silly riddle. Jonsa for the win. So many beautiful heirs without any mystery as to who the father is.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 7 ай бұрын
It's kinda skeevy since they are Cousins. Jon's Mother & Sansa's Father were Siblings...
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper 7 ай бұрын
@@PlanetZoidstar I mean, they could be siblings. I can’t remember whether Jon is Aegon Targaryen in the books as well. So don’t worry, they could be siblings.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 7 ай бұрын
@@HansDorfmannEliteSniper Jon & Sansa are still First Cousins at the very least since Ned & Lyanna were Siblings.
@ellioteden5602
@ellioteden5602 7 ай бұрын
​@RegretfulAlpinefan_16 Yea he's Aegon but it's still not even culturally acceptable since Jon is (technically) Targaryen and Sansa is not. The incest was to keep the dragon bloodline "strong" lol.
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper
@HansDorfmannEliteSniper 7 ай бұрын
@@ellioteden5602 But they sometimes married out and the Targaryens are basically extinct. Does it really matter that much? I mean Rhaegar himself was married to a Martell. And it still classes as incest. A weird thing to have to point out but oh well.
@ajwinberg
@ajwinberg 7 ай бұрын
We will never know if they meet up in the books because Martin is never going to finish them.
@NeroLucife666
@NeroLucife666 4 ай бұрын
All for the more better
@hasanmehmood19
@hasanmehmood19 7 ай бұрын
Everytime something related to stark siblings come on screen, my heart starts to sob.
@ameliaflynnhayes
@ameliaflynnhayes 7 ай бұрын
He and bran were the only brothers she had left
@meteorjuice4088
@meteorjuice4088 7 ай бұрын
No Theon burned Rickon and Bran alive
@ameliaflynnhayes
@ameliaflynnhayes 7 ай бұрын
@@meteorjuice4088 oh ya
@angelkingsley5299
@angelkingsley5299 7 ай бұрын
In the books, she doesn’t know that. She thinks both Rickon and Bran are dead (killed by Theon). Although we the reader know that Bran, Rick, and Jon are alive. Sansa only knows for sure Jon is alive. You know ‘Dramatic Irony’
@RishuKumar-kx7xz
@RishuKumar-kx7xz 7 ай бұрын
​@@Lucius_AurelianBut Jon can warg ... So maybe in ghost... Even though Jon relive he will be never same as the person don't remain same
@cristhiantaylor8324
@cristhiantaylor8324 2 ай бұрын
Wow they never saw each other again 😯
@Djanck000
@Djanck000 4 ай бұрын
They won't meet in the books because there will be none.
@kimoolacio5781
@kimoolacio5781 6 ай бұрын
Im almost finished with the first book and im hating sansa right now
@Olga_Efremov
@Olga_Efremov 6 ай бұрын
Oh my god 😅... with Christmas on my mind, I read title "What did Santa really think of Jon Snow?" 😁😅🤭
@ihaveachihuahau
@ihaveachihuahau 6 ай бұрын
Isn't she like his cousin? Not half-sister? His mother is her aunt. His father is a targ, and not related.
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, Jon would be her cousin. Since, Ned's sister is Jon's mother.
@troyburnex
@troyburnex 5 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me the name of the song in the background?
@Likorca
@Likorca 4 ай бұрын
This simulation is getting crazier by the day
@lrlavalais2068
@lrlavalais2068 2 ай бұрын
Of course they will meet up in the books. Sansa is "the girl in grey on a dying horse"
@projectX928
@projectX928 6 ай бұрын
Are they about to kiss now😂😂😂😂
@Dunybrook
@Dunybrook 6 ай бұрын
What? Having them meet up was one of the best things they did on the show. It was only what came after that was the problem.
@VersieKilgannon
@VersieKilgannon 4 ай бұрын
To quote Gretchen Wieners, "he's your cousin" 😂
@truetory6231
@truetory6231 6 ай бұрын
I'd much rather Jonsa than Jonerys
@diamondly6250
@diamondly6250 7 ай бұрын
heres to hoping the books dont end like the show
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 ай бұрын
Well, seeing how the writer has not written a book in a good wile, I am thinking they will.
@Carrot196
@Carrot196 6 ай бұрын
Why on Earth wouldn't they meet in the books? Absolutely mental comment
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 ай бұрын
Well Jon is dead and the other books have not been written.
@Artyom125
@Artyom125 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if she finds out out about his real parents if she would try and get with him
@coolkid3844
@coolkid3844 4 ай бұрын
I could be wrong because it’s been a long time since I read a Game of Thrones, but I could’ve sworn in the first book. she absolutely despised John and thought very little of him.
@brendan9868
@brendan9868 4 ай бұрын
She did yeah, was constantly correcting Arya on him being their bastard half brother, not their brother. But I guess that doesn’t fit the gross incest art of the video.
@wetfishbits
@wetfishbits 5 ай бұрын
"They'll probably not meet up in the books". But we'll probably never know as GRRM will never get around to finish it.
@j.c.jeggis1818
@j.c.jeggis1818 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact for Jonsa shippers: Cousins don't share enough DNA to be considered a risk for inbreeding defects, but half-siblings do.
@karinaashmon
@karinaashmon 7 ай бұрын
Hapsburges of Spain and Austria 🇦🇹 have entered the chat. Heard od the hapsburge chin.
@johnnk3256
@johnnk3256 7 ай бұрын
Jon's parentage is still unconfirmed in the books. So, they might be half-siblings. So, no... Jon and Sansa is just weird.
@cobra8888
@cobra8888 7 ай бұрын
@@johnnk3256if they were confirmed half siblings then yes it’s weird. But if confirmed they are cousins then not as weird.
@cobra8888
@cobra8888 7 ай бұрын
@@karinaashmonYes because it was decades of actual inbreeding. Brother and sister. Uncle and niece. Then the sibling off spring marrying his aunt-sister. It got complicated. Not as much as first generational cousins breeding.
@ihaveachihuahau
@ihaveachihuahau 6 ай бұрын
Jon is half targ though, which means he has generations of incest going back, so cousins would likely be at risk for him.
@suwaidajalal
@suwaidajalal 5 ай бұрын
I do think they will meet in the books because their storylines are headed that way. Jon is constantly having to choose between the Wall and Winterfell. And Sansa is constantly associated with Winterfell by others. And if anyone has forgotten the snow winterfell scene in the books, then i pity them. Tze's essay on the similarity of their stories is a wonderful read. Ah, that lovely line when Sansa's coming down the mountain and hears the ghost wolf wind wailing is epic and that's when she thinks it would be so sweet to see him again. Knowing Martin though, they'll probably both be descending upon Winterfell at the heads of separate armies, poised for a political fight.
@canteriggle6525
@canteriggle6525 3 ай бұрын
Man, i keep hearing about the books. I would love to read them. Im just not interested in stories that have no ending. It's annoying being left in an eternal cliff hanger. No thanks. I've been there, done that, i tossed that t-shirt.
@XOPOIIIO
@XOPOIIIO 6 ай бұрын
I think that's because Aria loved him, and George R. R. Martin did everything to emphasize their difference.
@john56801
@john56801 7 ай бұрын
What is up with these fan arts?
@montymont4192
@montymont4192 3 ай бұрын
after sansa sees a white haired resurrected red eyed jon she probably won’t recognize him
@ILIRIEA
@ILIRIEA 6 ай бұрын
Show romanticise them always felt it wrong
@Derekivery
@Derekivery 20 күн бұрын
The reunion of Jon and Sansa was one of my favorite moments in the show, and usually where I stop watching. It's the best ending to the series you could hope for.
@raultebelin5354
@raultebelin5354 6 ай бұрын
If ever Highlander Franchise be reprised.... Kit is the perfect one to take the lead as Mcleod
@katiebugg7018
@katiebugg7018 6 ай бұрын
you think in the books there won’t be a big battle of Winterfell that Jon will be there for? I’m very eager to know what you think will play out then.
@gasoowannab
@gasoowannab 6 ай бұрын
Wow…the show ending seems worst now that I know bran was supposed to die😂
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 ай бұрын
Really, did Martin come out with another book that says that?
@FumblsTheSniper
@FumblsTheSniper 7 ай бұрын
The fan art really emphasizes his targerion side.
@HerbCoswellBornAgain
@HerbCoswellBornAgain 2 ай бұрын
Jon and Sansa will reunite in the books. Maybe not the same as the show, but they will.
@richvestal767
@richvestal767 5 ай бұрын
Why won't they meet up in the books? As far as we know she's set to be betrothed and married to Harry the Heir of the Vale who's next in line to the Arryn throne behind Robin Arryn. I seriously don't think that its going to take a lot of effort for her to convince Harry and the rest of the Vale to help her press her claim to Winterfell and come to Jon's aid in something like it was shown in the show.
@shirleyc3937
@shirleyc3937 7 ай бұрын
I think they made sense
@xklutchxpanda634
@xklutchxpanda634 6 ай бұрын
To be honest they should meet up again. Really depends on how the north turns out
@no_one01-5
@no_one01-5 4 ай бұрын
Why is that fan art so Lannister?!
@TookITtooLiterally
@TookITtooLiterally 7 ай бұрын
So what do you think would happen in the books? jon would still be in a nights watch or dead? Or sansa dead?
@daviiidavo5100
@daviiidavo5100 7 ай бұрын
These fan arts are weird
@eh6623
@eh6623 6 ай бұрын
them not reuniting seems like a huge missed opportunity in the books
@nathanbaca5131
@nathanbaca5131 3 ай бұрын
They absolutely will meet up in the books. Jon will be resurrected, and since he died no longer bound by oath to the Watch. He'll be free to take Winterfell back for the Starks or make a claim to the Iron Throne. Either way Sansa will be involved.
@Morendie91
@Morendie91 4 ай бұрын
That fan art did not match the tone of the video lmao
@TheV8Pumpkin
@TheV8Pumpkin 5 ай бұрын
Say what you want the sansa jon reunion was very nice to see in the show and gave the plot line of Sansa being sent to Winterfell much more redeeming
@Posiepoet
@Posiepoet 3 ай бұрын
I sure hope they don’t reunite for the sake of her remaining rational and not leeching onto his newfound “Power” like she does in the show
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 2 ай бұрын
Jon is also heavily attracted to red haired woman for some reason… hmmm. His and Sansa’s outlooks on chivalry, knighthood, and Lord/Ladyhood are similar. He also thinks of Sansa when he thinks of beauty and magic. And now Sansa puts them on the same level as ‘bastards’.
@sansastark8952
@sansastark8952 5 ай бұрын
They look like lovers in those pics, lol
@hexflash.
@hexflash. 6 ай бұрын
in the books sansa and Jon would marry each other considering Jon may not be their actual brother
@Arya_25
@Arya_25 6 ай бұрын
Jon would never marry her in the books. You haven't read them ,did you? Considering he like her the least and doesn't trust her at all💀
@summer7603
@summer7603 6 ай бұрын
She know she can always go talk to step bro...
@tnttv5360
@tnttv5360 4 ай бұрын
They wont meet in the books, since the books will never be.
@jf_kein_k8590
@jf_kein_k8590 7 ай бұрын
Wouldn't Littlefinger try to put Sansa into the throne of Winterfell? Which would lead to Sansa, Jon and maybe Rickon meeting again at their home.
@Rompstirdg
@Rompstirdg 5 ай бұрын
Out of all the images you could have used
@user-ty5di3ku6o
@user-ty5di3ku6o 3 ай бұрын
They make a huge deal out of b@***s in the books and shows, but he grew up with them. I can't see many people behaving or thinking this way outside of a power grab in the game of thrones. And Jon never wanted power.
@MrReded69
@MrReded69 4 ай бұрын
JONSA shippers cry: "NO!!😫IT CANNOT BE!!!😰THEY'RE MY OTP!!!😱
@marogaertner3951
@marogaertner3951 6 ай бұрын
Why she prayin for him @blackwater bay which is based in the crownlands and Jon stationed at the Wall?? Doesnt make sense, should he have fought for Stannis the mannis or the cruel Joff?
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