✭ What did the film say about the Cowboys' loss to the Ravens

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Voch Lombardi

Voch Lombardi

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Voch Takes A Deep Dive Into College Football Film From Players Declaring For The Nfl Draft. Breaking Down The Players Pros, Cons, Fit, & Projection to the NFL. Other Times I Break Down Dallas Cowboys And Other Nfl Teams. NFL Mock Draft
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@pokufan55
@pokufan55 8 сағат бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see a Voch and Bryan video gets uploaded, I click on it immediately. Salute to you gentleman
@jasonmartinez4730
@jasonmartinez4730 Сағат бұрын
Same
@megamuffin15
@megamuffin15 8 сағат бұрын
Bryan and Voch hit the nail on the head with this offense. Other teams make it look soooo easy. We've been saying this for 15 years - we never have a schematic advantage
@MoisesGarcia-i9s
@MoisesGarcia-i9s 8 сағат бұрын
Why does McCarthy run Deuce up the middle as if he's a bruiser?????? Why can't we use him in the passing game against linebackers. Wes Welker made a career out of breaking linebackers ankles in the passing game. Brady loved hitting Welker on a 5 yard pass right in the middle. Why this dumb ass coach doesn't realize he has the same thing with Deuce just baffles me.
@suicyco4life666
@suicyco4life666 5 сағат бұрын
One very big difference is. One team had Brady, one has Dak. Brady has a bunch of rings. Dak cant win a playoff game. Dak is a very overpaid average QB. 💩
@Shotty2daFACE
@Shotty2daFACE 4 сағат бұрын
​@suicyco4life666 what a stupid take... Daks not the offensive coordinator 😒
@hjk3351
@hjk3351 3 сағат бұрын
We have no run game because our offensive line can’t run block at all no one blocks on this team don’t matter what back we have there are zero running lanes
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 31 минут бұрын
​@suicyco4life666 Dude get over it. He's talking about Deuce not Dak. How about actually saying something meaningful for once.
@KONEIL1775
@KONEIL1775 8 сағат бұрын
I don't understand why we don't start doing more motion. We did it last year after getting prison-graped by the cardinals and the 9ers, and became one of the top offenses (but for some reason abandoned it against every peer level team we played😅). We need 70% motion in these games, not the 5-10% we inexplicably reverted back to.
@aarone.9323
@aarone.9323 8 сағат бұрын
Hey Voch. 👋🏻 i been watching for about 4 years now man. Thank you so much for your continued hard work. Seeing you upload at 10:45 PM on a Mon after a 1 Hour livestream is great bro. Major kudos to you
@AndrewJones-cj6yg
@AndrewJones-cj6yg 7 сағат бұрын
Like Dameshek says, I dont know O line, but watching Voch, I do now, if only a little bit
@guadalupechavarria1227
@guadalupechavarria1227 8 сағат бұрын
2025 Dallas Cowboys draft prospects: DT Walter Nolen 6'4 290 Ole Miss, DT Bear Alexander 6'3 315 USC, DT Shemar Turner 6'4 290 Texas A&M, DE Shemar Stewart 6'6 290 Texas A&M, DT Alfred Collins 6'5 320 Texas, DT Jaheim Oatis 6'5 325 Alabama, Tim Keenan 6'2 325 Alabama.
@texantrader7751
@texantrader7751 8 сағат бұрын
I like Nolen in 3rd round, maybe 2nd. Deone Walker the best out of em
@petepanagiotopoulos1350
@petepanagiotopoulos1350 8 сағат бұрын
Very good list, I like the Cincinnati kid Dontay Corleone as another possible DT pick.
@petepanagiotopoulos1350
@petepanagiotopoulos1350 8 сағат бұрын
@@texantrader7751 I like it, Walker is a stud.
@melhayes204
@melhayes204 2 сағат бұрын
Doesn’t matter who they draft. Coaching is the problem.
@214Bidness
@214Bidness 57 минут бұрын
🔥🔥 300 and up
@JokerFaceDG
@JokerFaceDG 6 сағат бұрын
Sums it up perfectly. It’s like our offense fights like hell to get a 1st down and their offense is moving the ball like it’s routine
@stephenbellomy
@stephenbellomy 4 сағат бұрын
Hey Bryan, I smash that refresh button until I see a new Voch/Bryan video and I immediately click it! I love listening to you two. I've learned more about football this year than my previous 30 and I used to play! lol. Both of you are such high IQ guys and I just love the dynamic between you guys. It's like you've known each other for decades. Keep up the great work fellas and ill keep smashing that refresh button!
@barrypayton2832
@barrypayton2832 3 сағат бұрын
Great show as usual. I leave here learning something new. As a Cowboy's fan in Saints country, this is what I needed to hear.
@CoolHandsLu
@CoolHandsLu 8 сағат бұрын
And…we are back!
@KONEIL1775
@KONEIL1775 8 сағат бұрын
I wonder if the Ravens struggle at finishing out games because they're gassed by the end.
@texantrader7751
@texantrader7751 8 сағат бұрын
I had a girl over, trying to overstay her welcome and all I could think about was catching Broaddus and Voch. Cmon now!
@AndrewJones-cj6yg
@AndrewJones-cj6yg 7 сағат бұрын
priorities my friend, you seem to have them straight
@westtexascowboydc4l912
@westtexascowboydc4l912 9 сағат бұрын
Been waiting for this
@jamaldabney3294
@jamaldabney3294 8 сағат бұрын
No lie I’m saints fan but I really do love u guys analysis of games
@LimeintheCoco
@LimeintheCoco 8 сағат бұрын
In other words, a closet Cowboys fan....smh
@AndrewJones-cj6yg
@AndrewJones-cj6yg 7 сағат бұрын
Voch and Broaduss, best in the game
@marcusmcfarland4335
@marcusmcfarland4335 8 сағат бұрын
Appreciate you voch in Bryan for the content and explaining stuff to us fans to better understand our team salute to both of you🫡🫡💯💯🔥🔥
@reggiehart7932
@reggiehart7932 3 сағат бұрын
Luv your breakdown gents, and it's totally tough watching my team right now struggling.This helps! DC4L 👊🏽
@Blade-ts9fr
@Blade-ts9fr 7 сағат бұрын
Jerry "All Mouf" Jones likes to hear himself talk. He said that at the Senior Bowl and then commenced to do absolutely nothing to get this team better. Boycott his greedy ass and you'll see instant change.
@AmielSr44
@AmielSr44 7 сағат бұрын
By their own moves it seems like Jerry and Mike are sabotaging the Cowboys season !
@emanal8283
@emanal8283 4 сағат бұрын
Y’all should watch AKOYEs breakdown of the defense. Looked like players lacked fundamentals on the edge and at safety. Juanyeh should get a chance since Dono continuously makes bone headed decisions
@jeffwilliams1146
@jeffwilliams1146 7 сағат бұрын
They need to have Turpin and luepke in the game more
@Blade44-tb7zn
@Blade44-tb7zn 8 сағат бұрын
Dowdle falls down too much before being touched lmao...he needs to figure his cleats out. None of the backs are that good.
@InterstateStunna
@InterstateStunna 8 сағат бұрын
That mean he weak lol we betta see what cooks got asap
@Blade44-tb7zn
@Blade44-tb7zn 7 сағат бұрын
@@InterstateStunna yessir
@luthermoore2969
@luthermoore2969 33 минут бұрын
Dowdle is going on 5 years in the league. That's what he is, ain't got nothing to do with the cleats lol
@christianaguilar9077
@christianaguilar9077 45 минут бұрын
Best duo! Please don't stop!
@irvgotto80
@irvgotto80 40 минут бұрын
They are absolutely right, why does Dallas offense looks so difficult but other teams looks so simple and easy
@eddieb9102
@eddieb9102 2 сағат бұрын
Absolutely great content folks. From a different perspective and one that I think that fans need to hear. Keep up the great work both of you,...it's like a nice eating and yang
@ONEupD808
@ONEupD808 8 сағат бұрын
I thought we got rid of linehans playbook????
@stanleyfarrow6976
@stanleyfarrow6976 4 сағат бұрын
Why does it sound like I heard this for years now?!!!
@malibujoe01
@malibujoe01 6 сағат бұрын
Thanks so much for what you said Bryan! It needed to be said, I'm so glad you said it! The Jones needs to hear your words😊
@luiscastaneda792
@luiscastaneda792 8 сағат бұрын
Awesome content bros!
@seanjohntwild
@seanjohntwild 7 сағат бұрын
Love the show you guys
@sheilaneal6331
@sheilaneal6331 8 сағат бұрын
Love you guys 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@AndrewJones-cj6yg
@AndrewJones-cj6yg 7 сағат бұрын
Voch and Broaduss, best in the game
@tre123726
@tre123726 7 сағат бұрын
They’re running the Kellen Moore offense again
@StevePlatt-pe6mo
@StevePlatt-pe6mo 8 сағат бұрын
I feel your pain Bryan. Wrong owner/wrong coach/ wrong players
@tekmojo
@tekmojo 6 сағат бұрын
Voch Lombroaddus best bedtime listen
@siddeeqacharles5194
@siddeeqacharles5194 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you Voochie, After seriously watching film that Voochie has provided and Akoye presented had me see that our Defense players better get them selves together. Just as well as the Offensive. I do not like seeing our players arguing amongst each other cause that just causes more chaos between them. Just like Dak said look in the mirror and fix yourselves to do better and be better. The Time is now we have to come together and get our heads together. Or we are cooked. DC4LIFE 💙. Coaches, hopefully try to see to it that your players are on the same page. Maybe during practicing.Footballis suppose to be an fun sports not an sports whereas your players are bitter. SO COACHES GET IT TOGETHER.
@mitchelldolfuss4173
@mitchelldolfuss4173 6 сағат бұрын
We are the kings of racking up stats late in games because the defense backs off and is leaving the underneath routes open! We have no run game, and we turn it up when the games out of reach
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 30 минут бұрын
They didn't back off though. They played the same defense in the 4th as they did the rest of the game.
@standingalone001
@standingalone001 7 сағат бұрын
These two are great together.
@demarcushudson9162
@demarcushudson9162 4 сағат бұрын
I would love to see Al Harris get a shot at being the HC ... especially with both Zim and Shoty being experienced coaches.
@dc4lifetxjw
@dc4lifetxjw 8 сағат бұрын
They showed our division opponents how to beat the ravens.
@lamontmccray7059
@lamontmccray7059 8 сағат бұрын
Dak stop throwing it to Ceedee! 🤷🏾‍♂️
@AndrewJones-cj6yg
@AndrewJones-cj6yg 7 сағат бұрын
Voch has star power, i keep telling them
@D.A.S444
@D.A.S444 34 минут бұрын
Great insight!
@standingalone001
@standingalone001 7 сағат бұрын
The Cowboys could use the Voch & Bryan team as a consultant team to raise questions to the coaches and make some suggestions.
@jacksong529
@jacksong529 8 сағат бұрын
Bryan I would love to hear your thoughts on Philly?
@JerC-h3q
@JerC-h3q 27 минут бұрын
Green Bay fan here. Voch just described why GB got rid of McCarthy for Lafleur. There was no creativity, everything was on the shoulders of the QB, asking WR to get open no scheme. Teams know what you’re doing and all is on the QB. We didn’t run the ball well also because it’s never an emphasis. Mike loves to throw the ball and will live and die with it. However in this era unless you’re Peyton Manning or prime Aaron Rodgers this ain’t how you win. It’s time for Dallas to move on and get a coach who knows the modern game.
@Averagegamer2437
@Averagegamer2437 8 сағат бұрын
How is a coach that didn’t get a contract renewed and coaching the final year of that contract on the hot seat?
@lamon2112
@lamon2112 2 сағат бұрын
Hey Voch! The group Boyz to Men has a soung called "doing just fine"
@RonnieJudge
@RonnieJudge 8 сағат бұрын
VOCH AKOYA BROKE THIS DONE WITH DO MUCH TRUTH DAMN WE BEATING OURSELVES LEADERS ARE DOING DUMB SHIT IS IT FIXED???
@Birdman2271
@Birdman2271 7 сағат бұрын
Bryan was spittin facts
@RonnieJudge
@RonnieJudge 7 сағат бұрын
Good SHOW!! Film dont lie our OL sucks!! Our DL sucks n tank n parsons not setting the edge! WTF
@troyreynolds7943
@troyreynolds7943 6 сағат бұрын
It starts up front we have Steele to protect in pass pro. We have 2 rookies to help and Martin is not consistent anymore. We are depending on a rookie T.E. to block more. From the D.L. to the secondary we need to be playing disciplined TEAM ball for 60min. Like last yr as the yr goes if the O.L comes together and the defense plays disciplined TEAM ball we should come around and hopefully make the playoffs. Dowdle and Luepke behind a consistent line will be a good tandem.
@fredo__.
@fredo__. 2 сағат бұрын
Bro thank you it’s Mike he’s holding this offense back we have the same type players as the 49ers. I don’t see how we can’t utilize are weapons right.
@JosephRhodes-s4r
@JosephRhodes-s4r 8 сағат бұрын
This team is absolutely horrible because we have no running game because our best rb has been INACTIVE
@InterstateStunna
@InterstateStunna 7 сағат бұрын
Na it's the scheme
@christianmirmo4942
@christianmirmo4942 8 сағат бұрын
Big Mike might want to think about passing the offense off to our OC.
@JVincentMarquez
@JVincentMarquez 8 сағат бұрын
Lamb was going in to cut the lead to 14-10 when he fumbled…the offense wasn’t the biggest problem
@OlDavefromthatsho
@OlDavefromthatsho 9 сағат бұрын
Good because these wizard fans over here thinking they’re the 85 bears
@mastersonic707
@mastersonic707 8 сағат бұрын
They better then us.
@moneyneversleeps8540
@moneyneversleeps8540 2 сағат бұрын
Romo had no problems making it look easy
@ericbrooks9042
@ericbrooks9042 2 сағат бұрын
Cowboys need new Defense and perhaps new headcoach ASAP 😊
@stevenpellegrino997
@stevenpellegrino997 3 сағат бұрын
Jerry probably has Belichick on speed dial.
@hjk3351
@hjk3351 3 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile we have washington over here that looks legit theyre rookie qb throwing accurate deep bombs to Mclaurin for 50 yard gains and touchdowns.
@stevemclaughlin9436
@stevemclaughlin9436 8 сағат бұрын
This team isn’t really trying to win. Mike McCarthy just isn’t willing to be creative. The defense lacks discipline amongst the veterans, not just the rookies. There’s just nothing here.
@Luisortiz-og4ik
@Luisortiz-og4ik 5 сағат бұрын
How did the Oline play so well against Clevelands Defense and look like pop warner ball the next two games 🙄
@suicyco4life666
@suicyco4life666 5 сағат бұрын
What was Jerry thinking when he way overspent on Dak and Lamb? He made 2 very average players some of the highest paid players in the league. Why??? These guys crack under pressure and adversity. Instead of wasting that money on two very average players, they should of blown the whole thing up and start a full rebuild. With a solid plan. Their record would probably be the same. 👍
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 3 минут бұрын
Glad Im not the only one who saw that early play when everyone runs hooks and the first read is to Zeke in the flat. Like how is that your first option? So stupid.
@safetyscrewmarket
@safetyscrewmarket 8 сағат бұрын
Kingsburry sure looks better than MC at calling plays LOL!!!
@dougsimmons2344
@dougsimmons2344 39 минут бұрын
Sprint right option. Lol. My son runs that in flag football
@simonpringle1383
@simonpringle1383 37 минут бұрын
If we are 1-5 at the bye week, should trading 11 be a serious consideration for rebuilding the squad?
@dougsimmons2344
@dougsimmons2344 50 минут бұрын
Seems like mike doesn't want to get film out there and show the playbook. Too smart for his own good
@calvinnelson8357
@calvinnelson8357 Сағат бұрын
You guys are on point I was screaming at the tv go pop the QB stop taking the running back bait light Lamar ass up!!
@gregorylewis4370
@gregorylewis4370 8 сағат бұрын
Great show. However the problem is voch keep talking about these new coaches when only one new coach won a superbowl. Mcvay. Out of the last 15 or 20 years I can only think of one. That's Mcvay. Voch sounds like he wants something pretty but no rings. The 49ners do have a superbowl. Miami doesn't, Cincinnati doesn't, new orleans with the new coordinator hasn't. The superbowls have been won by great coaches with great qbs for the most part. I think voch is beating around the bush and just won't say that dak is not going to win a superbowl. I don't care what coach you bring in. I like dak but he has a ceiling and it's not the superbowl
@olympusnfitness
@olympusnfitness 4 сағат бұрын
Maaaaaan Bryan Broaddus is a good guy
@kennethvermillion7476
@kennethvermillion7476 2 сағат бұрын
Was 11 still stationary & Did 4 audible a route ?
@samdodero6451
@samdodero6451 46 минут бұрын
The carnival Barker is the last place!
@tacoabeast8385
@tacoabeast8385 8 сағат бұрын
You can NOT use Ceedee like J. Chase (4.34) and J. Jefferson (4.43)...Ceedee runs a 4.5 40yard dash...Speed matters and any1 who has ever played a skill position will tell you that...This is Not Rocket science...Speed Matters...smh
@petepanagiotopoulos1350
@petepanagiotopoulos1350 8 сағат бұрын
He might be even slower than that now considering he's up to about 212-215 pounds. I think he's out of shape from missing camp too, he looked tired a lot yesterday.
@christianmirmo4942
@christianmirmo4942 8 сағат бұрын
@@petepanagiotopoulos1350 I did notice Ceedee looks bigger this season
@petepanagiotopoulos1350
@petepanagiotopoulos1350 8 сағат бұрын
@@christianmirmo4942 he said he weighed 215 which might be too much weight to put on at once. I think he should be no more than 208-210, that extra weight will affect you in a 60 minute game.
@SamuelHaynes-w7f
@SamuelHaynes-w7f 7 сағат бұрын
I just told my brother the same thing
@SamuelHaynes-w7f
@SamuelHaynes-w7f 7 сағат бұрын
Dak always read one side of the field
@luthermoore2969
@luthermoore2969 36 минут бұрын
Here's how you know we need a new HC and play calling, 90% of the plays called, Dak has to get out of that play and switch to another play, I watch more games than just the cowboys, and Dak Prescott has to switch his head coaches play calls more than any other QB in the league. If that doesn't tell you something then idk what will
@simonpringle1383
@simonpringle1383 2 сағат бұрын
It says they are not a team, just a bunch of individuals
@stevenpellegrino997
@stevenpellegrino997 3 сағат бұрын
I think McCarthy wants out. He's tired of the 💩show. The Jones can't get the players he needs. And they had 3 DC in 5 years. McCarthy was good last year on offense and calling players. So why is it different this year. I don't think it's McCarthy it's something else. New O line rookies and can't block So Dak can make the right reads. Dak is still Dak. McCarthy is still McCarthy. They didn't change. So what change. Shotty was ok last year.
@davidlawrence8051
@davidlawrence8051 Сағат бұрын
Its never Dak when the offense struggles its the play calling. But when the defense struggles its the players fault lol
@benbowman4590
@benbowman4590 Сағат бұрын
Let Dak sling the ball. Figure out the run game when we’re up by 3 possessions. Need to win now
@brandonrains5602
@brandonrains5602 7 сағат бұрын
This Offense looks like it has gone back to the BS of the "Texas" Coast debacle from early last year. Why go back to what failed through the first six games last year? The next couple of weeks should be the Cook/Luepke RB Tryout.
@hallmarr
@hallmarr 3 сағат бұрын
The saints didn’t punt until late in the 4th quarter the fact that Bryan broaddus thought the ravens game was worse is insane u didn’t have to watch all 22 to come to that conclusion 🤦🏾
@LakishaWashington383
@LakishaWashington383 Сағат бұрын
He said the Saints game was worse for the Cowboys than the Ravens. Go to 2:07
@Starchild4084
@Starchild4084 6 сағат бұрын
The film said Dak wasn’t worth the 240 million dollar contract the Cowboys are paying him and that Brandon Aubrey is worth 240 million dollar contract as a field goal kicker !!! Prove me wrong!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@markkrok5071
@markkrok5071 3 сағат бұрын
Film says 60 mill and were in the basement in the east. Fight ? 😆
@wheelsodeath4237
@wheelsodeath4237 8 сағат бұрын
Cause Dak has never thrown guys open and can’t read a defense past the first 2 reads. He feasted off of play action and when they run the ball more than 20 times for 100 yards they were undefeated. Now you have no run game. Add to that how they look vs bad teams vs good teams.
@MyPrerogative817
@MyPrerogative817 5 сағат бұрын
A ROD told us already McCarty is lazy play caller 🤷🏾‍♂️
@akmetal574
@akmetal574 7 сағат бұрын
Bryan why does Jerry know the size of his players junk? Is it in the scouting reports?
@dancing_rock
@dancing_rock 6 сағат бұрын
Tell me Andy Reed isnt a great coach? That he doesnt still have what it takes to win a superbowl! Age has nothing to do with it, its out thinking your opponent and one whose brain is set in stone.
@emanal8283
@emanal8283 4 сағат бұрын
Look at who has made it to the Super Bowl recently Shannon, Mcvay, Zac Taylor… etc Andy is a phenomenal coach and he’s always been great at adjusting and adapting. Most of the other old coaches have stale philosophies and are too slow to change
@brandong42091
@brandong42091 6 сағат бұрын
Jaden Mcdaniels popped off tonight vs the bengals damn we might not even finish 2nd or 3rd in the division if we dont figure something out fast . smh .
@redleader3394
@redleader3394 3 сағат бұрын
It said that the defense is crap 💩 and can only play one way. When the offense gives them a lead so they can pin their ears back and rush the passer! They have no other identity!
@jagofjokester1127
@jagofjokester1127 6 сағат бұрын
Dak need to be on the hot seat as well 🔥
@adappajahanu2109
@adappajahanu2109 8 сағат бұрын
@Bryan...wasting zeke career with that sorry ass blocking scheme..we had no problem running the ball under Garrett so what's the problem now it's coaching..just look at how the line is blocking now like trash..no holes to run through Dak getting beat up..even though I think it's half his fault un willing to sling the ball..
@ericgreen6880
@ericgreen6880 7 сағат бұрын
Mike Zimmer is going his players on the same page!!!!!!!
@showtimesportsmedia6906
@showtimesportsmedia6906 7 сағат бұрын
This offense needs to be simplified. Run everything out of the shotgun I’m tired of the under the center stuff. Outside zone, inside zone, rpo runs for Dak, counter and traps and that’s just the run game the pass game out of the gun is Dak best stuff. He’s a shotgun spread QB he’s been that he can do it.
@jeffwilliams1146
@jeffwilliams1146 7 сағат бұрын
Look who had the ball...Henry was running through arm tackles... Dallas had a chance to get Henry
@tjtiger2183
@tjtiger2183 38 минут бұрын
Great guys, I see Macarthy being a problem now, maybe he’s just tired ready to quit
@dougsimmons2344
@dougsimmons2344 37 минут бұрын
Is there not someone on the radio from the booth going.. hey Mike.. single hi,, run this or this?? Or what??
@reggiewilliams6357
@reggiewilliams6357 6 сағат бұрын
ANDD...we are back lol
@broderickjohnson1427
@broderickjohnson1427 3 сағат бұрын
Whn you pay average a qb elite money whn thy can't elevate others, is recipe for disaster....
@adappajahanu2109
@adappajahanu2109 7 сағат бұрын
@Voch and Bryan I'm sure y'all saw what they were doing to Lamb..and y'all not complaining about why Dak didn't find others to throw the ball too like he did in 2nd half..smh where is the blame for Dak and his inability to find other wrs..since Lamb was dbled and harassed all game smh blame the ones that need to be blamed offensive line coach Dak and we still haven't put Micah @ LB..like I've been saying for 3yrs now..smh
@JVincentMarquez
@JVincentMarquez 7 сағат бұрын
Mike had the number one offense last year and has gone 36-15…3 games in and he forgot football?
@InterstateStunna
@InterstateStunna 7 сағат бұрын
Bruh it takes a few weeks every year under Mccarthy we gotta have hope
@emanal8283
@emanal8283 4 сағат бұрын
He has played a lot of subpar teams and beat them. He has very few wins against quality teams and his offense always struggles against quality opponents
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 28 минут бұрын
​@@InterstateStunnaIt's his fault. Our starters didn't play preseason.
@InterstateStunna
@InterstateStunna 16 минут бұрын
@gabrielcarrasco9078 been like that for years, we not the only team that do that,
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