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What did they do to Katara? | Netflix Avatar the Last Airbender Live Action

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Connie Glynn

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@Dee_Idie
@Dee_Idie 5 ай бұрын
when the world needed her most, she returned
@sky0kast0
@sky0kast0 5 ай бұрын
And was Hermione treated
@madison_edits_12
@madison_edits_12 5 ай бұрын
Aang coded
@dartdragon4785
@dartdragon4785 5 ай бұрын
I'm actually disappointed that Katara didn't learn under Pakku like in the original. Avatar has always believed in the Master/Student dynamic so is awkward and unnatural for Katara not to learn anything from a waterbending master.
@Lucario9d
@Lucario9d 5 ай бұрын
exactly! I cringed when the waterbending student called Katara Master. It was so out of place.
@khalicocat
@khalicocat 5 ай бұрын
They also fully cut Pakku and Gran Gran's relationship history(which was the whole reason Pakku actually decided to allow women to train for combat in the OG show)
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 5 ай бұрын
Because these writers think that “empowering women” means having them do EVERYTHING themselves through strength.
@kennychau314
@kennychau314 5 ай бұрын
They re mentioned in season 3 with sokka
@NHarts3
@NHarts3 5 ай бұрын
Especially for a show about martial arts. As a martial artist, and a woman, it was such a disservice to the traditions of martial arts. You don't just become a martial arts master overnight without any training
@reyfan011
@reyfan011 5 ай бұрын
I feel like katara gets mistaken as a perfect good girl, when she wasn’t always right. She stole the water bending scroll from pirates and wanted to practice in private because she was jealous of how quickly Aang was getting the hang of waterbending. She trusted Jet and took his side when Sokka tried to convince her he was bad. She was naive and followed the fortune teller’s predictions to the point of judging what she’d eat. Most of all that temper of hers. Although she stays calm most of the time, she can get real angry and it affects her bending. It’s how she broke aang out of the ice and how the room shook when she argued with Pakku about her waterbending. She was nice but had an attitude. I don’t know what direction they were trying to go with her, but they really watered her down.
@sushigooo8061
@sushigooo8061 5 ай бұрын
Ha, watered her down *cries*
@NHarts3
@NHarts3 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just rewatched the waterbending scroll and she literally tells aang to "shut his airhole" and makes him cry, all because she was jealous of him.
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 5 ай бұрын
I'd say she was nice but had a temper. The only time she had an "attitude" i.e. an unjustified attitude is the water bending scroll episode tbh.
@AnABSOLUTEBarbarian
@AnABSOLUTEBarbarian 5 ай бұрын
THIS
@sooyoungfanclub
@sooyoungfanclub 5 ай бұрын
the cardboardification of katara…. a crime…
@_catulus
@_catulus 5 ай бұрын
Katara is the glue that holds Team Avatar together. If her character is underdeveloped, the entire gAang will suffer because of it.
@crimsoncloud6352
@crimsoncloud6352 5 ай бұрын
I think they're easing into it. For season 2. I hope they get more personal and build the characters.
@Auron1Roxas2
@Auron1Roxas2 5 ай бұрын
Moron they don't suffer. Her character isn't underdeveloped, this whole show can be described as character development and katara is no different. Her whole arc in the show during season 1 is her gaining more confidence in herself and her abilities.
@FuzHammer
@FuzHammer 5 ай бұрын
​​@@crimsoncloud6352 The issue being they're not gonna have time for that. Book 2 has the most forward momentum out of them all and having only 8 episodes is gonna lead to more rushing through and by following the show rather closely despite arbitrary changes it makes me entirely uninterested in what "might" happen cause I just don't see it working
@x0gucx
@x0gucx 5 ай бұрын
​​@@crimsoncloud6352 But why did they have to ease into it? They crammed so many moments in book 1 meant to show growth and character development and did nothing with them.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 5 ай бұрын
They will NEVER pull off something like The Desert episode with thing Aang and Katara. No shot.
@ShadowGirlie
@ShadowGirlie 5 ай бұрын
The best episode that illustrates Katara's importance and role to the Gaang was the episode they're trekking through the desert after Appa got kidnapped. Like, without Katara there, the Gaang would have been lost and hopeless.
@triplesvirtual5823
@triplesvirtual5823 5 ай бұрын
Very true. That's when she holds the whole group together like a motherly figure.
@vlhruaiatochhawng3076
@vlhruaiatochhawng3076 5 ай бұрын
In the desert episode, when there wasn't enough water in the cloud, Aang shouted to Katara with anger like,"I did all I could, what were you guys doing, what are you doing?" And Katara replied,"Trying to keep everybody together." Like, that's the whole point of Katara, she is motherly, she is trustworhy, strong, energetic, and stubborn(mostly in a good way). This LA didn't seem to get that at all. Since Katara is my favourite character from the series, I was so disappointed.
@thesunisup_
@thesunisup_ 5 ай бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who is upset about how they treated Katara’s character. In the OG series she was one of the most passionate and full of life characters, in this live-action she is just there with an emotional range of a wall. She might as well could have been Mai. This just made me want to rewatch the original ASAP.
@crystalclear7512
@crystalclear7512 5 ай бұрын
It has probably a lot to do with how inexperienced the actress is. They should have casted someone older considering Katara is meant to be the mother of the group.
@Orii-2
@Orii-2 5 ай бұрын
FR had to rewatch the original to heal from that T-T
@Bunninja
@Bunninja 5 ай бұрын
​@@crystalclear7512 the actress isn't the problem. According to her fans, she showed more range and emotion on her previous show "Ann with an E". She might have some blame, but I put 90% of the blame on the writers and director. SURELY, the director would've noticed how bad her acting is unless that's exactly how he directed her to act.
@memento4183
@memento4183 5 ай бұрын
@@crystalclear7512lies. She played with so much charisma as a young indigenous girl in anne with an e. It’s the way they wrote her. They purposely took away Katara’s flame
@dangerhalmes274
@dangerhalmes274 5 ай бұрын
Katara was responsible and passionate. But ALSO she was immature, she was a kid! And they took all of that from her. They took that from all of the characters. That immaturity of all the young characters made them relatable and playful despite the seriousness of the world and their responsibilities. And we watched them all grow and mature through the show.
@Armlace
@Armlace 5 ай бұрын
Bringing Connie back alone is enough to say that the Netflix Avatar adaptation was worth it.
@ConnieGlynn30
@ConnieGlynn30 5 ай бұрын
That’s so sweet thank you :’)
@aronnemcsik
@aronnemcsik 5 ай бұрын
@@ConnieGlynn30 I mean in the Ember Island episode they showed how bad the remakes going to be... Someone saw the future there...
@laracunningham7335
@laracunningham7335 5 ай бұрын
@@ConnieGlynn30 So happy that you're back!!!!
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 5 ай бұрын
This is the most respectful form of simping I have ever seen. You actually made it work. That's impressive. Respect.
@scfdtutorials-ro2ru
@scfdtutorials-ro2ru 5 ай бұрын
Who the fuck is connie?
@jelena9
@jelena9 5 ай бұрын
The disappointment in Katara's character in the live action and the excitement from an upload form Connie! What an emotional rollercoaster
@Lavender32495
@Lavender32495 5 ай бұрын
I can't explain to you how happy I am that someone specifically decided to talk about how wrongfully done Kataras character was in the show. In my opinion, taking away Sokka's sexism was the catalyst to dimming Katara. Katara is how she is BECAUSE of her sexist brother and her need to prove him wrong! It's literally there from the beginning. Katara and Sokkas dynamic was a ping pong off each others personalities in the beginning so taking away her fierceness to prove him wrong really dimmed her sooooo much
@FilmsSilent
@FilmsSilent 5 ай бұрын
It was also because of what happened to her mother that she was determined to become a master and her anger / frustration at not being able to was fueled by that. I just realized this after watching this video. Excellent critique Connie! It blows my mind how in depth these characters were thought out.
@hurricaneofcats
@hurricaneofcats 5 ай бұрын
Sokka stealing most of her character beats just makes it so much worse. This is so frustrating because Katara being protective and overly motherly is a product of her greatest character trauma, her mother's death and the feeling she needed to replace her mother when their father left for the war. The scene where Katara gets angry at their father after being reunited with him in season 2 is one of the character moments that wrecked me the most, because it really makes you realize how their parent's absence has deeply impacted both her and Sokka and forced both of them to grow up way to fast. Part of Katara resents their father for abandoning them and making her feel like she was responsible for holding everything together. She and Sokka experienced the same traumas as siblings, but experienced it in profoundly different ways. In the show, it feels like they robbed Katara's character and gave all her most compelling moments to her brother. Without all that it's hard to imagine this Katara having an excellent arc later on about wanting to get revenge on the man who killed her mother. The fierceness, burning desire to be a strong waterbender and underlying grief and anger just isn't quite there in the show.
@badgerforrest-blincoe2879
@badgerforrest-blincoe2879 5 ай бұрын
The scene in the Netflix show where Katara and the Water Healing Master both went to convince Master Paku to let them fight was so baffling to me. The Healing Master says something like "if we don't fight, then we'll lose everything we already have" to which Paku goes "OK fine, you can fight," and I went "Great, now if the Fire Nation just happens to beat this group of water healers, the Northern Water Tribe has no doctors anymore," because for all the audience knows those water healers are the only ones in the North Pole. On an unrelated note, I totally agree with everything you said in the video, and also thought that Katara was the character that the Netflx show completely stripped of any personality whatsoever, except for a belief in hope and the power of friendship. To be fair to Netflix in their treatment of Katara though I also felt that they stripped all of the female characters down to a single personality trait, which is definitely a terrible decision, and made for a terrible viewing experience for me, the problems with Katara in the Netflix show aren't exclusive to her, but they're definitely the most glaringly obvious.
@juanprada4410
@juanprada4410 5 ай бұрын
The way they expressed themselves made me think that in the middle of the 100 years of war, the northern tribe really had no real idea of what to do whit a female waterbender medical squad.
@martacastillo6272
@martacastillo6272 5 ай бұрын
They made Suki thirsty and Yue having manic pixie dreams🥲
@michaellane5381
@michaellane5381 5 ай бұрын
The real problem was the attempt to sanitize for "modern audiences" removing Sokka's sexism and comedy gave Katara zero snark and sass, meanwhile they tried making her not be emotional until Jet so it makes her look thirstier than her brother or Aang(they removed his early crush), and because they removed Aang Waterbending you never see her learning or teaching, and because they removed her emotions and righteous fury you just get her being a little mad at Paku while because they removed his tribes sexism he becomes way too agreeable and unchallenging... Which makes her determination look weaker and her problems trivial... And why make ALL the healers insist on combat? Even in war you want frontline medics to retrieve injured, while others value self preservation and want to be away from the fighting.
@juanprada4410
@juanprada4410 5 ай бұрын
@@michaellane5381 you got it !
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee 5 ай бұрын
Yeah this show removed sexism as a flaw of Sokka while also writing the female characters so much worse than the original. This show pretends to be less sexist while being more sexist than ATLA.
@eilaye
@eilaye 5 ай бұрын
A niche critic I have is gran gran giving her the scroll because I don’t think they (the tribe) would take the chance that the fire nation would come back to search for water benders so they wouldn’t want to have anything that would frame them
@izzy-gb8us
@izzy-gb8us 5 ай бұрын
Yes and in the og having a cultural artefact stolen and sold by pirates was (I think) a comment on how colonisation commodifies cultural knowledge to be bought as trinkets.
@Coufu
@Coufu 5 ай бұрын
Such a refreshing deep dive into Katara's character from a Katara fan. So many other reviews on YT are so general about their gripes without going into specifics, so it was nice to hear a take from someone who's so passionate about the depth of the character.
@darylesese
@darylesese 5 ай бұрын
Also as a female fan, it’s really nice to find a YT review of the live action show and Katara specifically, who also identifies with Katara ❤
@Marmarboo
@Marmarboo 5 ай бұрын
I screamed when the fight with Zuko ended with the master line ”Yes, I did. You’re looking at her” 🤮🤮 This is a case example of Hollywoods Girl Boss mentality and it felt like she didn’t actually have to work at all to become a MASTER… Like she read a scroll and… that’s basically it. It feels unearned, lame and booooriiinngggg. They did Katara dirty and I feel like I’m too invested in this. On a good note, I stumbled upon your channel and loved your video! 🥹😂❤️ Also, loving the Pikku Myy (Little My)x2, love from Finland! 🇫🇮
@terukiato
@terukiato 5 ай бұрын
Me too for the Little My! I actually grew up watching The Moomins, even though I am from Quebec, Canada. I teared up when I saw the plushies. Thinking about buying one Moomin for myself 😅
@Lauren_210
@Lauren_210 5 ай бұрын
Ugh I HATED that line so much. It was so fucking stupid and I cringed. 😣😣
@Sihara.Liyanapathirana
@Sihara.Liyanapathirana 4 ай бұрын
Omg she actually says that ? 😭
@reachthroughreality
@reachthroughreality 5 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the show specifically because I was told several times that Katara is the shy girl now. She's the only female over 10 and under 70 in her village. She is everyone's mom. That doesn't make shy. I didn't like Katara, but I did love her. She could be grating, but she was always understandable. Part of what made Sokka and Katara so good was they were both trying to be the "responsible" one. She was the Mom, he was the Leader, and that didn't always jive together.
@aliveasalways
@aliveasalways 5 ай бұрын
Also, I know this is a video about Katara, but I believe the same critique could be made for Azula as well. Her character, I feel, has been diminished greatly-especially by her early appearance in the series (taking that element of surprise that makes her even scarier in the OG). Now she just feels like a little kid who's trying to play with the adults....not intimidating at all :(
@ConnieGlynn30
@ConnieGlynn30 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I could have done a whole other video on Azula you’re so right
@JoyceHennessey-rq3fz
@JoyceHennessey-rq3fz 5 ай бұрын
They should have got a mean girl influencer and told her to act like a batman Villan. That prolly would have worked better lol it is disappointing cuz Katara and Azula are my favs
@dangerhalmes274
@dangerhalmes274 5 ай бұрын
Right?!
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 5 ай бұрын
@@ConnieGlynn30Do it!
@95maferisturiz
@95maferisturiz 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@ConnieGlynn30 Not to mention that the actress they hired to play Azula is too fat and chubby to play a character whose movements in battle require a slim and agile body, a very athletic frame and an ability to move fast and smoothly. I don't have anything against fat people, but in order to play a character whose fighting style is full of agile and fluid movements and a character that lived to fight and be the best warrior possible, you can't hire fat actors or actresses to play the part. It's just the reality, and I'm personally *_tired_* of modern-day entertainment being so, so politically correct in the name of inclusion, that they would rather water down the actual and real personalities or physical appearances of certain characters, instead of portraying the characters as accurately as possible.
@garmadonthesensei59
@garmadonthesensei59 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree!! Katara is my favorite character and she DESERVES MORE RESPECT 😤
@xXNekou
@xXNekou 5 ай бұрын
I gotta say Connie looks stunning, the black hair really suits her, nicely contrasts with her complexion and gives her Snow White vibes ❤❤
@MJZMD
@MJZMD 5 ай бұрын
"It's giving Valium" made me actually choke
@darylesese
@darylesese 5 ай бұрын
My literal thought was “she seems lobotomized”
@jakeryan2805
@jakeryan2805 5 ай бұрын
What made Katara so great is she got angry, jealous, emotional, always wanted to help people, was kind, and caring, motherly to the whole group, oh and was a badass fighter....Netflix Katara is bland boring, emotionless, female power up, no help from a man typical holly wood snooze.
@MGJ182
@MGJ182 5 ай бұрын
The issues you address here are so well thought-out and sincere to the truth (and Netflix's lie) of the character, and touches upon the rest of the damage that the live-action has done. You said everything there is to say about Katara. The rest of the characters build upon common flaws of dampening and/or alterations: -Aang: I want to erase the number of times he has said "the monks have said" in lieu of saying something that is his. Aang's role is that of a tuning fork, with his lines citing emptily his duties. I see no interpersonal growth between him and the rest of Team Avatar. There were no hints at his forthcoming liking for Katara, for example. And in his fights, his elusiveness was weakened, where he showed no wisdom in defense (i.e. the fight against him and Zuko), only ever using air to push rather than to perform his fluid, functional acrobacies. That is how you show that he bears the wisdom of the monks, not through just empty words. -The previous Avatars: Kyoshi is presented as a woman so focused that the strength she can so easily muster and overpower with is veiled by the grace of a wise silence and concentration. She does not ever speak with an angry tone or even so much as vocalized when she parts islands apart. She may be harsh but never was she seen angry, only demanding. -Yue: What they took from Katara they molded into this steadfastness with neither virtue nor direction and put it in Yue. They were going for a "she *is* of this earth" result, but how can the environment she is the sovereign of be completely ignored for cheap feminism? There is simply no way she can be given the authority to make her own nuptial decisions in the Northern Water Tribe, and it was that conflict between her and the two boys, and the ultimate decision to give up both to become the Moon spirit that gives her the virtue with which she is loved. The writers killed what the original plot already satisfies the good objectives of feminism by, with hostile inclusivity quotas and cheap writing. -Ozai: He is very well portrayed, but is lacking the twisted empathy he always showered Azula in. Instead, we get aggression towards her, which I don't recall seeing in the show. She was the apple of his power-hungry eye, and the pressure he concomitantly sheds was enough for Azula to know she has to prevail in every task and every silent expectation. This hurts Azula's character. -Azula: All anger. What makes her so exciting to watch is the ability to instill fear with her cold tone, inexhaustibly calculating mind and the tension she always instills, in accompaniment with the punctuality of her dissonant chime. And where is the lipstick!? I didn't look very forward to the Netflix show, particularly because of how they write characters in order to make them more powerful. Instead it only makes them weaker, showing how power and strength are separate things. But they did do Zuko justice. Dallas Liu is phenomenal in every aspect of the word. I loved him and Iroh. And his fight scenes stole the show in both, firebending and as the Blue Spirit alike. And that's true for much of the cast, many of them knew how to fight very very well. I was so surprised at how badass they all are at handling their weapons, but Zuko as the Blue Spirit is so exact and fierce, it steals the cake. Bravo for that!
@DIRECTEDBYH
@DIRECTEDBYH 5 ай бұрын
being fake positive is worse than being negative but honest
@chelscara
@chelscara 5 ай бұрын
3:02 which is… part of the problem. How does he evolve into that amazing character when he starts as the best of the group? I kinda enjoyed not liking him early on a side for comedy and getting to see him grow and love him more as he did and kind of “proved me wrong” in a way. It’ll be interesting to see what they make his journey considering his only focused on problem is not feeling adequate when everything plot wise is showing him as “the best” right now.
@ConnieGlynn30
@ConnieGlynn30 5 ай бұрын
This is such a good point
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 2 ай бұрын
i was chanting "kick 👏 his 👏 ass 👏" when i first watched s1 of the show, and it made it all the more fun when he changed so much later on. like everything else in this stupid show, the changes to him were unecessary. these characters have no starting points, no flaws. i predict theyll be the exact same at the end as they were when it all started.
@march7thsonetruewife
@march7thsonetruewife 5 ай бұрын
It's insane how similar your experience is to mine LMAO I also was most annoyed at live-action Katara out of all the complaints and the Netflix version ALSO got my mom to watch the original Great video!! :)
@juanprada4410
@juanprada4410 5 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to season two! but Katara was strange; Overall, Katara reached Zuko's level in just her first summer of self-taught training. They curiously downplay the importance of going to the North in the first place or the rol of masters if Katara was already so good on her own.
@sapphiccore
@sapphiccore 5 ай бұрын
i never finished the animated series despite LOVING the first season and now this video has made me want to do that immediately. also excited that you’re back!!
@5my9other93half
@5my9other93half 4 ай бұрын
Something I just realized because live-action Katara is such a soggy noodle: If the show gets renewed for S2, they'll likely try to do the Hama episode; how is that going to work if Katara doesn't have the inner rage at the Fire Nation? The whole point of Hama is that she is the dark-mirror of Katara, she is Katara corrupted. Without having Katara be so internally angry the whole story won't have weight.
@MissSerenity98
@MissSerenity98 5 ай бұрын
As a fix I would have done one extra episode in the middle adapting an episode I’ve always thought was one of the important book one episodes being being Anng first learns Fire bending from Jeong Jeong and Anng burning Katara leads to Katara finding out she can heel, I would swap some of the Azula practicing fire bending into this episode and have her trying to teach Anng as a small few scenes before this episode so and put those Azula scenes in this episodes as her excelling compared to Anng not doing so well and have Katara improving at her waterbending whilst struggling to teach Anng because maybe he’s not respecting her as a teacher trying to approach it how he learned from the monks, come across Jeong Jeong as they travel and he rushes off to learn Fire, Katara whilst angry with Anng does some major waterbending move that she didn’t know she could do showing her improving she goes to show Anng and he burns her in his moment of joy of firebending, she figures out she can heal as she does in the original episode, Anng feels guilt for this which is part of the chakras unlocking in book 2, and have Anng at the end of the episode practicing and learning properly from and respecting Katara at the end of the episode, this would push both Anng and Katara forward as characters
@aracelylopezpsyd5794
@aracelylopezpsyd5794 5 ай бұрын
Agreed! This episode is a huge loss to the progressions of both characters & I don’t understand why they included so many scenes of Azula practicing. The first season is supposed to be about Water bending & Katara’s development. The next season shifts focus onto Azula & Toph/earth bending. I get they wanted to introduce Azula sooner & set the tensions between she & her brother, that’s fine but they did it to an excess & at the cost of scenes that were meant for Katara’s character development. I didn’t even think most of Azula’s scenes did all that much for her character, all those practice scenes could not been condensed.
@Orii-2
@Orii-2 5 ай бұрын
Netflix: Take notes! but fr this sounds amazing, i deffo thought that was such an important part in the original. its the reason why aang has such trauma and guilt about firebending and one of the main reasons he doent learn it until he does from zuko
@aspacelex
@aspacelex 5 ай бұрын
If you check the interview where they mentioned toning down the show's sexism, they weren't actually referring to ATLA, they were talking about how the original plan for the Netflix travesty was to gag all female characters, but it was eventually deemed too overt.
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 5 ай бұрын
I love how you came back for this😭😭
@bbhdd6181
@bbhdd6181 5 ай бұрын
They removed Sokka's sexism which was used as a lesson AGAINST sexism...for real sexism. Like, they just made the show actually sexist lol
@BlackMercura
@BlackMercura 5 ай бұрын
It's amazing when you're able to passionately yet concisely express your thoughts and feelings about your favourite character to someone else. And it's even more cathartic when someone else does it for you right at your face like a mirror😆 Katara is a character I will defend to the death, and it was so satisfying to hear you explain exactly what I felt watching the Netflix show.
@lincr.1988
@lincr.1988 5 ай бұрын
I really think they made Katara in a Mary Sue in the live action cuz she "became a master" basically all by herself, with the guidance of a beginner scroll only. In the animation she's very frustrated about Pakku not teaching her, while in the live action is just to make him let her fight. In the animation she stays there and study with Pakku for a few days, in the live action that never happens and Pakku, the guy who studied water bending his whole life ends up calling Katara, someone who started to learn it a few weeks ago, a master too. And I agree with everything you said as well, we don't see the frustration and eagerness to learn water bending in the live action, becoming a master should require a deep focus and commitment, and for her in the show it seems just something fun to do, more like a hobby I think.
@Morarchive
@Morarchive 5 ай бұрын
this is the BEST way you could have come back, so happy to see you!!
@dw1419
@dw1419 5 ай бұрын
Super novice bender Katara somehow quickly raising a bunch of ocean water hundreds of feet in the air to block a giant fireball was an absurd power jump for the end of the first ep and they knew it. That’s why they didn’t show the water coming from anywhere and just showed “somehow the fireball was blocked” by something coming from offscreen.
@dinkerz
@dinkerz 5 ай бұрын
In another commentary of the show the person argued that Katara’s calmer demeanor was more inline to the trauma she experienced and so they welcomed the change. That didn’t sit right with me, especially because irl I thought everyone understood there is no right way to respond to trauma. But Connie brings up a better point here, that animated Katara became angry by her mother’s murder, where live action Katara is sadden and mostly guilty by her mother’s sacrifice. Both plausible responses BUT the beauty of animated Katara being shaped by anger was that it paralleled or contrasted Zuko being molded by his anger response to his trauma. So it was a very nuanced 3 dimensional lesson on being fueled by anger. Live action Katara can’t have the southern raiders trip with zuko, which was a HUGE part of her finally releasing that anger. It was purposeful that it was just her and Zuko on that existential journey. The cartoon wanted to teach you something while the remake wants to sell you something. It if gets a second season, hopefully they do better by the characters.
@alyssalakey
@alyssalakey 5 ай бұрын
You were so missed, Connie!! Glad to see you back. ♥️ I just started it last night and honestly, I don’t see all the hate it’s getting yet! It’s very pretty and SO well cast. I think if there’s a remake of anything that’s as well-loved as ATLA, it will be hard to live up to. I try to imagine it as it’s own separate but familiar thing lol
@Steffenator
@Steffenator 5 ай бұрын
I agree with… 90% of what you’ve said in this video, so, awesome… My biggest gripe with Katara, (other than her lack of passion and… well… character) is that the first words out of her mouth regarding water bending was “I’m a warrior.” *Whaaaaaat?!?!?* That was not Katara’s big outlook in life in the animated series. She just wanted to learn water bending, she let Sokka do the warrior-ing, even though she probably realized that he wasn’t all that good at it at first. Now, it’s like they’re trying to write her into this girl-boss thing, but they forgot to have to do any bossing… The problem with changing a character like this is that you’ve changed the character… By definition, a character is an arrangement of personality traits; very specific ones that’s why they call them Characters, and not Subjects or Identities in stories. So when you change a personality trait in these characters it’s a different character now, just with the same name. You may as well write an entirely different TV show/movie; change the names and everything, then it’ll piss people off less.
@kylekao360
@kylekao360 5 ай бұрын
You are definitely right, these casts are so like the characters in real life judging by the interview so we know they can play these characters well. But, The writing and directing choice in the show just turned them into half adult half kids.
@gabrielp9646
@gabrielp9646 5 ай бұрын
@Connie Glynn - Personally... I agree with everything you said about Katara´s character, but I couldn´t enjoy this show myself. Like.. I really didn´t like most of the choices they made, in terms of the writing. You seemed to enjoy most of the stuff they did, but for me... I felt the way you do about Katara, but about most other characters as well :S
@C.V.Q
@C.V.Q 5 ай бұрын
Long time Katara fan here. She's easily my fav character from the OG. I watched the LA and was sooooo disappointed. I also watched interviews with Kiawentiio and felt she was already naturally Katara-like. But then in the show....just, she was a blank slate. I agree with everything you had to say. And I also picked up on the fact that it felt like the girls had reduced roles. Azula wasn't completely cold-blooded, she was crying about Zuko being daddy's favourite. Suki was obsessed with Sokka just because he was a strong boy instead of her seeing how much he's willing to admit his fault and then falling for him. June hit on Iroh when she was very disgusted by him in the show. Ty Lee and Mai were just background props. I don't want to be THAT PERSON but it sounds like one or more of the writers think the animation was or would come across as too 'woke' or 'political' if the women were written properly. I hope I'm wrong 😬
@HectorRodriguezCruz02
@HectorRodriguezCruz02 5 ай бұрын
Katara has been one of my favorite characters in all fiction. She’s the definitive heroine. In a world where every big studio is struggling to write female protagonists, they had it SO EASY. They didn’t have to modify anything, even after two decades Katara is one of the best examples of a well written female character, she has everything a real person does, flaws and weaknesses included. It was truly infuriating watching every time this new Katara was on screen. It seems that her only character traits are that she can waterbend and that she has her girlboss moments straight out of 2019 😒
@ericmabry1752
@ericmabry1752 5 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no way that this Katara would do any of the things she did in the southern raiders.
@Vanessa-tt3tb
@Vanessa-tt3tb 5 ай бұрын
I'm obsessed with your blush omg
@SarahKey
@SarahKey 5 ай бұрын
OMG HELLO CONNIE this was such a pleasant surprise
@BlackfireBmo
@BlackfireBmo 5 ай бұрын
Welcome back!! 💖✨
@hobbitcuppa
@hobbitcuppa 5 ай бұрын
My childhood yt'ber is back, I'm so unbelievably happy Connie
@Coqxette
@Coqxette 5 ай бұрын
A CONNIE VIDEO?! CONNIE AM I- Am I dreaming rn?
@glitteremm
@glitteremm 5 ай бұрын
CONNIE BACK!!🎉🎉🎉
@lukeshioshio
@lukeshioshio 5 ай бұрын
So happy you made this video. Everything I was thinking and feeling while watching the Netflix adaptation. They did Katara so dirty. Uncanny valley Katara hologram. And she's my favorite character in the original cartoon.
@Batmann29
@Batmann29 5 ай бұрын
First time on this channel but wow this was a great and insightful video! Loved your takes and anecdotes. Welcome back!
@ConnieGlynn30
@ConnieGlynn30 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much that means a lot
@em4004
@em4004 5 ай бұрын
I seriously hope that they take in the feedback for next season and and give us back the katara that we know of. She was one of the first characters especially animated that was so strong and so human that she was such a huge role modle for me and the live action just makes her not even feel like she holds the same importance as the rest of the cast when shes literally the female lead.
@bevjohnson143
@bevjohnson143 5 ай бұрын
so many of the choices just screamed "please don't get mad at us!!!"
@daMnedest-visiOnAry
@daMnedest-visiOnAry 5 ай бұрын
I don't watch videos like this much anymore and just came across you by chance, but I just wanted to say you were incredibly eloquent and so keenly observant. I really enjoyed watching this video and it was so satisfying to have all of my feelings spoken out loud by somebody. Idk who you are but apparently you've been gone a while, I hope this brings you back because I would love to see more!
@wolfgar45
@wolfgar45 5 ай бұрын
I was wondering who you were in the thumbnail. Nice to see you back.
@DJOrbitDecker
@DJOrbitDecker 5 ай бұрын
This was truly unexpected
@PetrosofSparta
@PetrosofSparta 5 ай бұрын
Did not expect this video to come flying out of nowhere but I’m here for it. And I pretty much agree with all the points you made, good and bad. I think if this gets a second season it needs to be more episodes, because the wild swinging between plot lines and condensing caused all kinds of issues but when they were trying to tell new version of existing stories, like the 41st Division and Zuko, it worked really well for me.
@Jp_-dd1rl
@Jp_-dd1rl 5 ай бұрын
Connie came back just like the avatar omg, this is so poetic
@magandanglikha
@magandanglikha 5 ай бұрын
GIRLIEE YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I'VE MISSED YOU!??
@phoebecourt4978
@phoebecourt4978 5 ай бұрын
Returned to KZbin for the first time in a while to find an avatar review by someone I know and get blessed with Connie doing exactly that! Huge
@Abipop
@Abipop 5 ай бұрын
There she is :3 LETS GO!!!! 2024 back to YT era!!!
@KiwiNuggets
@KiwiNuggets 5 ай бұрын
I WAS WATCHING UR OLD VIDS YESTERDAY!!! but its so nice seeing u back on youtube connie!!!
@moni1726
@moni1726 5 ай бұрын
OMGGGGG i missed you so much i grew up watching you and i missed your videos so much 💕💕💕
@Mahogui.
@Mahogui. 5 ай бұрын
6:19 You are not wrong on this one 😂 I second this
@magiclover9346
@magiclover9346 5 ай бұрын
I like that you mentioned they took a bunch of Katara character growth and pasted it onto Soka to cover up his some of his less desired traits. Good call out. In the season finally both Sokas and Kataras big moment fell flat. It's like the weren't earned. I think for Sokka being a leader and a man is deeply entrenched in his childlike view of men and woman in the world. To an extent this reflects on Katara and why she's so desperate to learn water bending. So she can walk the talk. In doing so she never loses touch of her femininity just like when Soka gets humbled over and over he never gets violent and resentful. He learns from his experiences in doing so earns the respect from those around him. Both characters go from what we would call (toxic gender stereotypes by todays standards) to a very mature look at femininity and masculinity. It baffles me the show runners took this out. These are exactly the kind of lessons we want to teach gen z'rs. Anyways it's just numbing, it's like in the last couple of years hollywood refuses to give us good examples of masculinity and femininity. No wonder kids are confused
@chrisdang6218
@chrisdang6218 5 ай бұрын
SHE IS BACK!!! Omg
@janinek5258
@janinek5258 5 ай бұрын
I wanted to hear other people talk about Katara's character betrayal and I'm so glad it's from you Connie!! Great to see you again!!!
@LydLoves
@LydLoves 5 ай бұрын
She's BACK!!
@lunarbunny857
@lunarbunny857 5 ай бұрын
Connie!!!!! Omg! I've never watched any of the Avatar shows and adaptations but I'm still going to watch this whole video 😊
@misscheldof
@misscheldof 5 ай бұрын
Welcome back
@teewhiting8365
@teewhiting8365 5 ай бұрын
I liked it. It was alright. I love the original. And I would like to say this to some studios (even tho they won't see this) that are thinking that they don't need the original creator to create an adaption WE NEED THE ORGINAL CREATORS WHEN MAKING AN ADAPTION!!!
@juliesscooby
@juliesscooby 5 ай бұрын
i havent watched any avatar ever but i’m just happy to be watching connie again :D
@emerifarnam1275
@emerifarnam1275 4 ай бұрын
never thought i would see you come back i am so happy ;-; katara has always been such an important role model for me, and i hate to see that the show diminishes her personality so much. she deserves better ;-;
@marcjasonali
@marcjasonali 5 ай бұрын
welcome back connie, you were missed
@kiekeyz
@kiekeyz 5 ай бұрын
dumbed her down so bad lol. They were worried about "appealing to game of thrones fans" but somehow made it the live action WAY MORE childish than the cartoon was. The cartoon dealt with more hard hitting themes.
@joannaz2854
@joannaz2854 5 ай бұрын
Omg Connie so glad you posted🥹🩷🤍honestly i havent seen the live action yet but i wanna rewatch the original so bad now
@Exe3D
@Exe3D 5 ай бұрын
I guess there won't be an Appa's Lost Days since they butchered Katara, Wan Shi Tong and Appa isn't even a character, just a mode of transportation in the live action.
@lornatw
@lornatw 5 ай бұрын
Did I just die? Thank you Connie not only hearing your perspectives but also feeding my deep rooted obsessions. Loving the energy here and editing ❤
@rosiecmb
@rosiecmb 5 ай бұрын
the wave of nostalgia i had seeing that notif
@EmilySartori-rs1ut
@EmilySartori-rs1ut 5 ай бұрын
I'm 15 yrs old and Katara is my absolute favorite character in the og animation! And I agree they need to focus more on Katara!
@Mermaidsandsoulmates
@Mermaidsandsoulmates 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for highlighting Sokka, he was my fave from the original and he's SO good in the remake ☺️
@GrungeSimss
@GrungeSimss 5 ай бұрын
Maaaate, I knew it when I commented on your TikTok! My Connie senses were tingling 🖤 glad to see you back!
@audreykayy
@audreykayy 5 ай бұрын
I love it when my opinions are concurred by Connie
@Melo.maniak
@Melo.maniak 5 ай бұрын
I was like.. Where do I remember you from?! Welcome back. Please stayyy!!
@kadielynn420
@kadielynn420 5 ай бұрын
I clicked on this video simply from the title and immediately went oh my god is this CONNIE? when the world needed her most she returned
@alicjakempisty2729
@alicjakempisty2729 27 күн бұрын
I think many many choices made for this show boil down to just one issue: all main characters are kids, played by very young actors who yes! looked the part and had the right energy and spunk as evidenced by their interactions in interviews, but just could not act very well yet. couldn't carry important emotional beats. and there's nothing you can do about it except train them, which requires budget and time. we know the budget wasn't very high and they were on a time crunch since the beginning because the actors were simply growing out of their roles as they were filming it. I think that's why they gave more screen time to Zhao and Ozai played by grown actors already good at their craft.
@Sploberrie
@Sploberrie 5 ай бұрын
I don't often think consciously about my love for Katara as a character, off the top of my head I don't know if I'd pull her as one of my favorites. But seeing Katara done wrong makes me remember how much I truly love Katara done right.
@devilzen
@devilzen 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit. So happy that you are back!
@coreyvidal
@coreyvidal 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe its finally here after waiting literally so many years for this.
@coreyvidal
@coreyvidal 5 ай бұрын
You returning to KZbin, not Netflix Avatar.
@BunNessa_Art
@BunNessa_Art 5 ай бұрын
I agree, there were some things i wish they had kept but overall i actually enjoyed the show and was also teary eyed in some parts. And i actually think the actors/actresses are doing really well!
@joshuaopriasa7468
@joshuaopriasa7468 5 ай бұрын
Omg hello stranger, welcome back! 🤭🥹✨
@Dunybrook
@Dunybrook 5 ай бұрын
Holy hell! If it brought you back to KZbin it's now my favorite tv series even though I think they did Azula all wrong as well as Katara.
@beck2752
@beck2752 5 ай бұрын
I just want to know why the guy who apparently lied about being native was given all of the traits that the actual native actor should have been given the opportunity to play!? Like it feels so racist! Like the executives were mad they had to cast native actors & are screwing with the writing in retaliation...
@justconfusedstratusstudent5061
@justconfusedstratusstudent5061 5 ай бұрын
WELCOME BACK OH MY GOD this seriously made my day
@hemmojito
@hemmojito 5 ай бұрын
Many people forget about this but Katara was actually humble enough to go to the healing huts AFTER being told by Paku that women aren't allowed to learn combat waterbending and even THANKS Yagoda for the lesson. And after Aang and her get caught secretly training combat waterbending and Paku refuses to further train Aang, she's actually ready to APPOLOGIZE for Aang's sake. Only when Paku is being a dick about it she loses it and challenges him. I'm saying she understands the circumstances and is actually quite considerate. Her quarel is with Paku, this ONE bony old stern man beyond reason. It's not about politics or changing the stauts quo. One girl who expresses her opinion loud and clearly and does it for nobody else. Even not for Aang when he says: "I can find another teacher. If you're doing this for me then... " "I'm not doing this for you. Somebody has to slap some sense into that guy" AGENCY, STRENGTH, CHARACTER, PRINCIPALS, COURAGE, PASSION. There's so much more going on here than just "female aggression". Sometimes I wish to slap some sense into those fake gender warriors thinking it has to be all about oppression vs. domination. So one-dimensional. The LA Katara represents all the clichés of this fake gender fight. She's demure quiet and passive just for her cause to be "righteous" like "Yes girl, show those evil oppressive men." It's like????
@iri02802
@iri02802 4 ай бұрын
What I loved about the Warrior episode is the Kyoshi fight scene. It was an epic scene of proportions and I absolutely loved it. The original relationship between Suki and Sokka in the show was better but it was also not bad in the Netflix show. It was believable. And the make up of the Kyoshi warriors was amazing! I also loved the relationship between Zuko and Iroh ans Iroh being confronted about his past. There are some things I did not really like: Katara being a self thought master. She was already very good on her own but I just find it unbelievable that she would not get lessons of Paku. Maybe she will get those between seasons. Just like Aang will probably learn water bending between seasons (which is also a change I did not like). A lot of people did not like Bumi but I actually did. I thought it was realistic and they gave enoigh reasons for it in my opinion. I also thought that Aang was too serious. I look very forward to seeing Toph. I really hope they do not mess it up and try to temper her because that would not be Toph.
@victoriatano
@victoriatano 5 ай бұрын
Connie? Avatar?? in 2024?? I've never clicked on a youtube video so fast in my life
@tulip135
@tulip135 5 ай бұрын
I mean, yes the directing choices and some of the dialogue was abysmal, but we can't blame the mishandling of Katara's character JUST on that. Other actors, like Sokka's and Zuko's, did well with the dialogue options they were given, and retained the original essence of their characters for the most part. Katara's actress, on the other hand, portrayed her character with what I can only describe as TikTok acting skills. Like a "go girl, give us nothing" type of acting. I think they messed up with her casting (also Azula's, but we haven't seen enough of her yet so I haven't decided if I like her or not).
@adorationxofficial
@adorationxofficial 5 ай бұрын
Yeah , like What happened to Katara! My sister who barely watched the original series and she was heartbroken because Katara was one of the characters that stuck with her no matter what.
@yevaud6
@yevaud6 5 ай бұрын
What happened to Katara? Sokka happened to Katara. In the animated series. They lost their mom, Dad went off to war. Sokka strived to be the protective manly man, but didn't go about it the right way and was a mess. Katara had to become the "mother" of her older sibling. Lecturing him about his faults while lovingly looking after him all the same. She holds on to hope for a better future for the both of them. This dynamic is all displayed beautifully in the first episode of the show. Even when Aang joins, he is a child. The "motherly" insticts she developed kick in and she becomes the rock of the group. The live action stripped all this away. Sokka is more well put together, so live action Katara has no reason to grow up and be the adult in the family. She's just a sister who hasn't worked through her own stuff or changed herself to become that rock. Certainly doesn't act like a den-mother in any way, shape or form. I know you said at the beginning that you had no poblem with Sokka at the beginning, but the dynamic between characters matters and each of the characters short-commings in personality and developement comes from the alterations and what those changes mean to how they interact with eachother. Also, narating through your poblems might help for budget and time. But it is the the far inferior method to "show, don't tell". They most likely opted for the characters just telling us things because they had to cut down on how many different locations they were shooting in and couldn't think of an alternative story lines or alterations from the source to do that. live action: 7 hours 10 minutes Animated: 8 hours They could have cut: Great Divide, Fortune teller, The Northern Air Temple, The Deserter, and cut most of The Blue Spirit episode involving frog medicine and the old lady. Keeping the rest as is. That would take the runtime of the live action down to 6 hour 40 minutes or so, plenty of wiggle room if you want to do original with all of it's proper character developement, plus expansion scenes to flesh out characters that will be in season two onward. The only problem is that involves building a prison set and building a few extra towns in the area they rented out for the Kyoshi Island set. It wouldn't have been that much extra in the budget. Camera angles and a prison set where they were already shooting could have simulated a prison surrounded by water easy. Build it on a rotating set so you can have it on land and still get an ocean view no matter what wall they decided to stare out at the ocean from (this episode is a cornerstone in Katara's developement. It's insane that they skipped it). Also, do Boomi's personality justice. Not blaming the actor, he could have pulled it off. It was the directors choice. Boomi was wise, a "crazy genius" who talk Aang a lesson and didn't care if his bad puns bombed. That's not what the live action gave us. That wasn't Boomi. The problem that happened is what always happens. You hire a director to faithfully adapt, and they want to "fix" and "update" a masterpiece to put their own stamp and voice and exectives think it's best because the world is fragile and they don't want to offend anyone when something is seen on a grander scale due to being live action. Revisions turn it into a shadow of it's former self or a Frankenstein's monster. Story old as animated adaptions themselves. Probably even older.
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