What do Endo and Ecto Mycorrhizae Do in The Garden & What's The Difference?

mycorrhizae is a beneficial fungi that clings to plant roots in
exchange for sugars made by the plant. There are two different types of
mycorrhizae ; endo and ecto. We will discss the difference and what
they do for your plants in the garden.
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[@JarodJL]

I am taking a course in horticulture and here is a tip we learned. If you are applying mycorrhizae don't fertilize for about a week, or if you really want to fertilize make sure it is one low in Phosphorus. If the plants have a lot of avalible nutrients (particularly Phosphorus) they will not associate with the mycorrhizae.

[@candleduck9339]

How I'll remember this: eCto = *Comes* back eNdo = *No* return

[@MIgardener]

Nice way of remembering! :D

[@teacul]

cute, but u should know that’s bs. Ectomycorrhizal and endomycorrhizal fungi associate with all types of plants. Endo means the fungi penetrates the root cell tissues. Ecto means it doesn’t You only really need the right type of endomycorrhizal fungi - arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi (ABM). ABM is the one that associates with almost any plant (~80% of all plants we know of). Ectomycorrhizal mostly associates with conifers and a few angiosperm trees so idk what the use of it would be here in this garden

[@teacul]

@47 E.B.O Nope. The distinction is more between gymnosperms and angiosperms than between trees and herbs

[@trevorfichtner3539]

@@teacul so endo for angio and ecto for gymno?

[@trevorfichtner3539]

To be fair, gymnosperms are usually perennials and angiosperms are usually annuals, arnt they? ... so wouldn't the rules of thumb, reuargless of specific scientific accuracy still coincide generally?

[@Savannahjbo]

the amount of tips and info you guys give is amazing, it real does help. I am already collecting supplies and plans for next years season.. ty picking out of my patch almost daily and putting it to use is truly a great feeling.

[@apexorganicz6757]

thank you for your continued help with my garden.

[@dirtdetective344]

Luke this is a great video and I think all gardeners need to be reminded of the importance of mycorrhizae in the soil.

[@TsetsiStoyanova]

Very cool video!

[@UhapiBeauty]

Best video ever Luke and Sindy! Thank you!

[@MIgardener]

the BEST?!?!? wow... thanks!

[@prettyoungirlstarlyn6744]

seldom to see younger people love gardening like you! I hope my kids gonna have a talent like you☺... I am telling them all the time how much important to grow your own vegetables and fruits because aside from you can save money you are safe from chemical also.☺

[@karimoto3424]

Thanks! Very useful information ;)

[@Anthony-kb8hn]

nice video! thanks for differentiating the two. I always assumed that fungal dominant inoculations were overall better for perennials and bacterial dominant for annuals and biennials

[@trueSoldierInCHRIST]

Bro ! 6 years ago wow ! Epic video your explanation is awesome. Thank you for the class 🥳

[@thisandthatwithchris1984]

Thanks for the info

[@nocableoj1221]

I appreciate the info here; this was a topic I had wondered about after seeing it at a store and hearing about it on another channel. I'm trying to learn an order of priorities for plants to do well and these are still an unknown to me as I've never tried doing anything special or buying any to insure the mycorrhizae colonize the roots of my plants, but as I progress with my skills as gardener and master some of the other constraints on my plants productivity, I'll eventually be looking to things like this to help naturally increase their production. At this point an experienced gardener could probably take on look at my setup and just have an intuition about it to say what the biggest limiting factors are that I could change immediately; 1)not enough sunlight? 2)not enough or too much water? 3)insufficient/ sub optimal nutrient feeding? 4)bad timing or planting (such as spacing or heights, time of year, climate, maybe I water at the wrong time of day)? 5)Specific problems with the soil like Ph or mycorrhizae? 6)Other things I haven't learned. Similarly, I'm trying to learn, what are the most cost effective (while being sustainable, or eventually sustainable), methods to make small or large improvement, and what those investments to make improvements I can reasonably expect to pay for themselves. One of the things I've learned from watching your show is the biggest limiting factors I can improve is my knowledge about growing things.

[@TSnowy23]

That's very helpful info, thnx Luke. Many of my trees have been stressed from last year's torrential rain, then drought (technically not drought but was unusually fair weather). This stuff came recomended when I bought an Iron bag, hope I can bring back color to my pine trees and help my oak & ash and even my veggie gardens. I know they have Iron deficiancy, I recently found out. My soil is very alkaline, hard growing anything.

[@lodgefamilyhomestead8038]

oh ok. thanks for the lesson!

[@Hicks6family]

Great explanation and making it simple #applause

[@kimtbarnes]

Super science. Very cool.

[@JoLe1991]

ectomycorrhizae (at leas those that are well described) are very specific and infect only trees (my best guess is that goji berries and for sure strawberries are colonized by arbuscular mycorrhizae (endo)). note that brassica plants as well as chenopods/amaranthaceae (beets, amaranth, spinach) do not associate with mycorrhizae at all. nearly all other flowering plants do associate with mycorrhizae with a few exceptions (lupins for instance). personally I'm quite sceptical about inocula, I've done a scientific experiment with a commercial inoculum and didn't find any (!!!) signs of root colonization under the microscope... and generally mycorrhizae are very abundant in the soil, unless it was massively fertilized, tilled and sprayed with fungicides.

[@pn3940]

I would categorize them into woody and non-woody plants.

[@gimi2395]

Bummer! I have mostly brassicas and beets in my garden :(

[@JoLe1991]

@@gimi2395 don't worry, there are other fungi interacting with those plant families, they're just not mycorrhizae

[@rev_lunar]

At the Lowe's where i live they have the garden soil that has the endo and ecto mycorrhizal fungi in the soil.

[@dbasarich]

Awesome video. I thought it didn't like hot temps.

[@PinkChucky15]

Great info :-)

[@David-fv7zg]

Sometimes I think we get so caught up in the science of this we cant see the forest for the trees. Im not being critical of the data and research, I know it is true. However, I have been gardening for sometime now almost exclusively with compost. It has been my experience that you can get very similar results, im suggesting the same results, with homemade compost and saving a ton of money in the process. Im not sure I see the need for products like this. Thanks again for sharing this Luke, your garden looks great.

[@drakethedragon100]

You can do both...I personally make my own compost and I grow mycorrhizae so I don’t have to keep buying it.

[@soner818]

Mycorrhyzae need a host plant to survive, without a root system it doesn't survive. Mycorrhyzal fungi do not grow in a compost heap, that is well known.

[@mikenite69]

I never garden without mycos in my garden and you are very right I am a member of a pepper community and it's so funny how many people ignore there root zone. Myself personally I keep mycos on hand several variety's and I also brew Earth worm, guano and molasses teas for even a more beneficial bacteria. People on the community always wonder why my peppers grow fast and I always tell them it's all about your roots. I know some people have issues with cold pressed algen but I have seen first hand what a good algen will do to your roots and it's nothing short of amazing!! A very good algen product that cost a little bit of money but makes your roots explode is house & gardens algen extract.

[@MIgardener]

nice job! Sounds like you know what is needed.

[@nocableoj1221]

Prior to this video the difference I understood to be as follows: Ecto means that it lives outside the root, and endo means inside the root

[@MIgardener]

well yes that is true, but it doesn't do much for anyone to know that since there are specific plants that need specific types.

[@bobkernahan6340]

Also brassica family does not get colonized and ecto are specifically for conifers and not veggies and endo are for most everything else

[@kosycat1]

Just got some boogie brew, they make some real awesome stuff!

[@MIgardener]

I hear it is good stuff too! I just make my own to be honest, but it still is the same stuff. Good luck!

[@fabianseq6164]

this video answered all my questions xD

[@indianb1918]

Great video. Are all species of Ectomycorrhizae:microscopic or do they grow something like mushrooms e.g Rhizopogon luteolus

[@jlf6614]

if you use worm castings do you still need to use these thanks

[@lukehebert6207]

+MIgardener Hey Luke, where do you get your gloves and what are they called? They look good for precision gardening work; not as bulky as the traditional gardening gloves.

[@NorthernThaiGardenGuy]

Luke with the drench method, how long did you soak it for in water?

[@MrKen-longrangegrdhogeliminato]

Hello Migardener, do you have a video on companion planting?..........................Ken & Beverly

[@JimPolitis]

Great video. Luke, I do have a few questions though: 1. Is this good to use for all plants or certain types? Are there any plants which this can harm more than help? 2. At what point of the plant's life cycle do you do this? I assume you don't apply the mycorrhizae when sowing seeds. Do you apply this right after the plant brakes through the soil or after getting true leaves? 3. Since the mycorrhizae lives off of sugars from the plants, does this have any impact on the taste of the vegetables from your garden? Thanks!

[@miriamw.2278]

How do I find out more about the various species of Endo and Ecto. Are they funghi that we know from the grocery store or are they more specialized? Thanks!

[@koltoncrane3099]

One thing I watched I video I think it was a guy growing pot in cali. But he was doing a instead of microbe brew or tea he did fungi. He had a bag like yours but he fermented like oats or barely for a week and put in a glass dish with some plastic cover and added the fungi and it grew for several days and then he did his fungi dominated tea spray where you put it in a 50 gallon drum and use and fish bubbler and molasses. It looked like it worked but I did wonder if some fungi won’t grow if there’s no roots.

[@cyhomer]

So...when is the best time to apply the watering-in method? On seedlings..or when planting the larger plant? Ty!

[@maddie7068]

So luke we should use the mixture of both even if the plant is an annual? I can't really find any information on the fungi and how it works with watermelons I wonder if you know anything about that?

[@tomyy40]

I already planted tomato in my garden. is it possible to add mycorrhizae to soil now.? Like dig little bit around root, and add it.

[@HFTL666]

thanks

[@pn3940]

I piled a bunch of leaves and broken branches for many months. digging them up I see the same thing growing under neath.

[@Jdmsword14]

i love mykos

[@dannybarrera7637]

Mycorrhizae in the forest never dies as long as there are roots in the ground and mulch on top. Thats why you need to keep plants( even weeds) and mulch in the garden.

[@devinbrown55]

While caring for my seedlings, can I add a little mycorrhizae to the soil in their seedtray?

[@MATTP545]

Thanks for another great video. I bought a fertilizer with endo/exto mycho. I noticed u said put it in water and then use that mixture to water.. How long can you have it in the water and will that kill the fungus? Or is the spore not living until it gets in contact with a plant?

[@MIgardener]

I just mix it up and apply it. I don't leave it in the water very long.

[@janinsirboiu1485]

Can i put mycorrhizae when i am going to plant an walnut tree in the autumn, any chance that the mycorrhizae to die during the winter, in my country is very cold in the winter (-20...-24°C) our i should put the mycorrhizae in the spring into the soil....?

[@vivekn7797]

Are these mycrrorizae mycroscopic or are they the size of mushroom

[@edward6510]

Do you know anyways to keep groundhogs out of garden?

[@karimoto3424]

can you please give me the name/producer of that bag ? I'm not sure if I can find it in Europe... so I can try to find equivalent here.!

[@kasperk3578]

wound't you use less off it if you just dipped the plants in a bucket off water mixed with mycorrhizae when you transplant, if you say it only takes one spores?

[@jamesbeasley8122]

We know that Endo Mycorrhizae needs a living root. In a 50X25 garden plot will a few Winter growing plants keep the fungi system alive through the Winter.

[@tiki6862]

hello luke!

[@rahuldabhi]

Thanks :) Do endo die in tropical climate? If there is very little cold, isn't the plant supposed to carry any mycorrhizae infection for life ecto or not?

[@johnwalters7415]

What's the difference between myco and mykos and can I use both?

[@grzegorznonszalancki7604]

I am missing something.... what's between the beds ? Just wood or bark ? specific ?

[@freeagent2098]

Mykos is used a lot by cannabis growers for rhizophaggus intracedes, the specific microbe that helps in cannabis growth. The other microbes don't necessarily feed the plant but the soil microbes will eat each other, live, and die in their own ecosystem of magic.

[@paulabeattie8565]

If you use Trifecta and it contains both endo and ecto; why do you need to buy more separately? Your beds and pathways look terrific, good job.

[@MIgardener]

Thank you! In regards to your question you do not have to re-apply if you are using Trifecta. We just like to make 100% certain.

[@Anthony-kb8hn]

what are your thoughts on how a magnet being placed in or around a plant and how this may influence its growth

[@jennychiltoon7130]

Sounds like rubbish to me.

[@edward6510]

Is it a good idea to add human vitamins to gardens? If so what kind and how much?

[@koalamama2]

SOLD! =D

[@phungktk533]

I usually buy compost at the big box stores, but they only have mushroom or manure compost. Which one is best for an organic raised bed? (It's our first time gardening big and you've inspired us with your videos!)

[@MIgardener]

mushroom is best hands down.

[@phungktk533]

Thank you! I also noticed that little mushrooms are growing in my soil. Any way to avoid that or are they edible?

[@miroslavorduno2442]

if you use these spores on, let's say, potatoes or carrots, would the vegetables grow bigger or just contain more nutrients?

[@catalinaqueen9672]

I was going to try soil solarization to kill weeds, will that also kill the mycorrhizae? Thanks!

[@MIgardener]

It would in fact kill the myco.

[@catalinaqueen9672]

Drat. Well maybe I'll solarize my weed garden a couple times this year, then I'll focus on replenishing the soils with mycorrhizae and other amendments next year. Thanks for your response! Happy gardening.

[@matshagstrom9839]

I do not think fungal cultures can be induced unless the biome is ideally set up for that spices. The fungal organisms that are added will immediately need to compete with thousands of microorganisms already present in the soil. You can definitely induce fungal cultures to sterile substrate like when people grow mushrooms. If you add mushroom spores to contaminated substrate (like garden soil) it is unlikely your added culture will outcompete the thousands of already thriving cultures. It just doesn’t work that way despite what the clever marketing people tell you. Healthy plants will support the organisms that support the plant. These relations are quite specific. Fungal spores do not die in the winter. If they did you would not have mushrooms in cold areas which we do. My best suggestion is to create an environment for a healthy biome and the fungal cultures will grow. They are already there. They blow in the wind and are omnipresent except sterile environments. I really don’t think you can induce these cultures. Your plants are growing will because you are a good gardener. We really can not control what grows in the soil on a micro level from macro manipulation. I would save your money on the supplements and focus on basic horticultural basics and the mycorrhiza will take care of itself.

[@l.k.b545]

Can you use it on citrus and flowering shrubs?

[@MIgardener]

sure you can!

[@l.k.b545]

+MIgardener | Simple Organic Gardening & Sustainable Living thanks - just found your video series. It is great. I started trying couple months ago propagating my own cuttings. So far I've tried most pollinator friendly trees and shrubs. I haven't ran across any propagating tips yet but I love the entrepreneurship and enthusiasm

[@lancemichael2586]

I notice u in the sun,does it work being in the sun still?

[@sergioreyes9755]

What would happen if you mix the endo and ecto and put the fungus for the plant it is not supposed to be in??? thx

[@nocableoj1221]

I'm assuming it's basically a waste of effort and it has little/no effect (such as with beets? (see comments below). I don't know enough to rule out the possibility of a detrimental effect but that seems unlikely from what I've read so far.

[@sergioreyes9755]

Joel Bacon Thx for the info

[@MrVikingdane]

Quick question from a $ perspective.. Trust me I'm a garden product freak myself, or was more of one before I investigated actual lab research. And when the levels of nutrients are almost the same if not lessened in the non control groups it backed me off from spending all the money on rock dust, green sand, biochar etc etc.. Do you think that the wonderful soil and compost you have in your beds isn't sufficient enough for the results you would like ? You should try a non mykos same breed plant test at the end of the season and bring it to a lab to check out ... You might be surprised ;) ... But as for feeding organically for larger / flower production .. I'm all for that too if you can squeeze out more lbs !

[@ilikeplantsandvideogames8625]

40% on average of a plants nitrogen comes from mychorrizae, most plants can't live without mychorrizal associations so it's not like you don't already have some. You can also culture your own mychorrizal inoculants on your own from your own soil XD

[@edward6510]

Do you add chicken manure to your garden? Is it a good idea?

[@MIgardener]

I do add a bit! It will help to make the soil nice and loose.

[@edward6510]

Does it have to be aged and for how long? Can you also mix it with water and water the plants with it?

[@MIgardener]

Eddie Malyovany it should be aged for at least 3 months to let the hot nitrogen out. It will burn plant roots.

[@edward6510]

Can I just add super small doses?

[@edward6510]

and can I increase the aging if its in direct sunlight?

[@jennychiltoon7130]

It is untrue that Endo is only for annuals.

[@jennychiltoon7130]

Endomycorrhizal fungi form mostly with green leafy plants and most commercially produced plants. Examples: Most Vegetables, Grasses, Flowers, Shrubs, Fruit Trees, and Ornamentals.

[@jennychiltoon7130]

Ectomycorrhizal fungi form mainly with Conifers and Hardwoods, and are required mostly for woody plants/trees and forest trees.

[@jennychiltoon7130]

Kale and Brassicas do not use either Endo or Ecto.

[@lodgefamilyhomestead8038]

300? that's not much for something that's microscopic.

[@MIgardener]

they are propagules, so not microscopic. They are little pellets.

[@JesusSoonComing]

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