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[@fadeaway3716]

Does every single Korean guy look like they just walked out of the hair salon? Seriously..... this is not good for my self-esteem.

[@yongseung3272]

Korean men love to take care of their hair.

[@CharlesCha1]

korea people like to care about beauty. hair, fashion, skin care, body shape, diet ...etc

[@itsMUSICY]

they obviously tend to choose the more presentable better looking people to interview

[@proudsonofsuwonsouthkorea]

it's the influence of celebrities

[@fadeaway3716]

Hyun Seung Kim​ Not just celebrities. You guys just have nice and thick hair in general.

[@VladimirSkultetyOfficial]

I wish people in my country could give such educated answers when interviewed for TV.

[@gonzalos4379]

涛哥哪里人？

[@VladimirSkultetyOfficial]

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[@user-rb9tw7zj4i]

Vladimir Skultety Why you guys speak in Chinese. LOL

[@VladimirSkultetyOfficial]

I only replied:)

[@gonzalos4379]

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[@Saaawdre]

2 years military with no rewards. The salary is not even close to the minimum wage. Living as male in Korea is really tough. Give soldiers at least minimum wage.

[@fbyi2940]

You get nothing when you are draft to war

[@zachowon]

3 bucks an hour in the US army as a E2.. Of course there are more benefits but put that into perspective

[@user-ge9gx7zh2p]

And some people dont respect to thoes korean man who servicing in military for the country

[@fbyi2940]

@@user-ge9gx7zh2p nahh thats bs it could be just a average disrespecting, and how do they know that he served in miltarym

[@Jr-bn7kc]

It not that tough to North Korea lol

[@JimmyZhang]

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[@neomileft3409]

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[@sidecharacterjim6000]

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[@shawnx7230]

Jimmy Shang is here!

[@one.piece0658]

Jimmy Zhang has been spotted 😂

[@lewislikesbread]

I agree with the guy who said you’d be cut off from society. You may loose friends, relationships, your career and be separated from your family. You’d feel really depressed and lonely.

[@Venserql]

Mandatory military completely ruined careers of many professional esport players.

[@misterdinner3648]

But its selfish if you dont go, a pro osu player by the name of Cookiezi, or shigetora on openrec (formerly twitch) left SK for Japan because he didnt want to go, and his family had to pay a hefty fine for it.

[@zenthious666]

SlayerS_`BoxeR` made it work... tho the South Korean Air Force literally had it's own Broodwar team.

[@knowyourhistory]

They sucked though, which is understandable

[@user-py2sr6qo3m]

And singers haha

[@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC]

(First world problems)

[@simpleplanfan27]

lol Korea isn't a small country. I live in a country of 5 milion people and that's what I call small.

[@polinaossipova3407]

Sniffles I live in a country of 1,3 million people and I think it's quite big oh well😂

[@Nomad88Chun]

Sniffles Swaziland has less than a Million

[@staciii]

Just cause there's a country that's smaller than Korea doesn't mean that Korea isn't small...

[@simpleplanfan27]

Staci-Ann Lawson There's 50 million people is south Korea That isn't a small number.

[@wowthis16]

china-1.3bil japan-130mil russia-140mil south korea-50mil it's smaller than other countries.

[@309387421]

The last comment was very interesting. It seems mandatory military service can make a society more structured and less rebellious. Or in other words more authoritarian and less opinionated?

[@won1853]

True. There's also a lot of propaganda education that goes on within the military (nationalistic, anti-socialist, pro-capitalist, pro-establishment propaganda.) I think that's what makes Korean men more conservative than women.

[@BaneQuaker]

Your said it right!

[@TheKalihiMan]

That seems to be the rationale for conscription in Singapore, who has no large, militaristic neighbors like Sweden or South Korea, and no constant threat of insurgencies like Israel.

[@Roman-id4vn]

TheKalihiMan we did experience Konfrontasi

[@mrsxierox9]

Implying Koreans aren't opinionated, hahaha...

[@user-mb9dx7jg5g]

two years in the army and that's a big loss for talented scientists who can contribute a lot to their field when they don't take wasting two year break at the time they can bloom.

[@user-mb9dx7jg5g]

two years is just enough time to make any brain hard headed.

[@chinesesparrows]

People with masters degree or phds can serve in industry r&d, so whats the issue?

[@HilaryCocciola]

winner winner even after two years of training they will still be bad in case of war. They're still civilians. You can't expect them to do well in case of war. Historically the compulsory military service was used to basically create a human shield for more trained soldiers.

[@andezong9565]

To be fair, while I don’t exactly agree with mandatory military or civil service, I think it’s necessary in South Korea’s case. If God forbid North Korea decided to march down southwards, what’s the military suppose to d, throw rifles at civilians and say “best of luck lol” while they wait for a US response?

[@JBinero]

Anderson Xiong How is that different from what they are doing now? Maybe if they had a professional standing army they'd have a better chance.

[@kayjmac42]

This was a very good video. The interviewer had insightful questions that were able to illicit great responses. As a foreigner, who only recently began to learn about S. Korea, it's interesting to know how some of men feel about voluntary military service. Thanks for that and in the future more about social issues would be appreciated. (Would this topic be considered a social issue?) These kind of things.

[@CatTMTran]

kayjmac42 o

[@yonghaseon6628]

It has been for years since this topic became social issue

[@pigjubby1]

My uncle died in 1952, in Korean when he was 21, so that South Korea could have all it has and not live like North Korea. NEVER underestimate your enemy. NEVER

[@isabel8489]

Truly thank for his sacrifice. students in my country occasionally go to the UN Cemetery and pay silent tribute to US military. we appreciate and honor their sacrifice

[@AsianBoss]

Do you have mandatory military service in your country? Do you think it's necessary? Share your opinions.

[@moXon460]

No, not anymore. Germany got rid of it in 2011 I believe. The mandatory service was 9 months only, which I think is a more reasonable length compared to the two years in South Korea. My older brother had to do it, but he actually liked it and extended his service to two years. He got paid quite a lot but didn't have to do much for it. In the end he was bored on a daily basis and eventually started studying in an university.

[@itsmorty788]

Asian Boss nah bruh..... I think it's pretty fucked up that u HAVE to go through military service in Korea.... I mean, I get that military is a good place for men to become stronger not only physically but also mentally but it is definitely not for everybody. Some people might be starting their own businesses, other people might wanna go over seas to work or study, u must spend 2 years in the military just seems really ridiculous to me. Dont get me wrong, I'd fucking do it if I have to, I mean I play sports and I'm a active guy and everything, and go through military training definitely gonna help me with my physical and mental strength, but like I said, I don't think it should be mandatory. People should have the right to choose what they want to do. I'm Chinese who live in Japan BTW. And I have friends back in China that are real soldiers as well. And I do respect them for what they do. Again not for everybody. :) let me know if u agree.

[@CottidaeSEA]

I didn't have to, but it is apparently going to be mandatory again. If my mental health was good back then, I would've applied though. I don't think it should be mandatory if possible though.

[@leesy9584]

(Currently doing military service in Korea) What people get from their service: Some new relationships, Learning battle skills / What they lose: EVERYTHING ELSE.

[@nehasht2]

nope ! depends on countries population

[@BornRemaining]

Exempting women from it 100% is really sexist against both men and women. The burden is placed solely on the men while the women are glossed-over as being too weak. I think that message may possibly be affecting how S.Korean women may carry themselves overall, perhaps? I'm sure that the quality of their military would go up quite a lot if it were populated by people who want to be there rather than a bunch of kids just trying to get it over with, like one of the young men hypothesized.

[@user-ip8bw7gt2x]

lol if that were to happen i have a feeling flocks of women will marry foreigners asap just to not serve xD

[@alessandrovialpando609]

But Korean feminists still mock these guys and they never think it's sexist

[@SQUINX]

Bruh I don't know how you will take it but I won't trust my back to a female comrade in war ;_; I am not sexist or something but women are not physically and mentally equipped for war. It's just how nature works.

[@jooheon4301]

Bro are you kidding? Women have childbearing organs...such tough physical training can be fatal.

[@yp5521]

@@jooheon4301 most of the soldiers in the army are not combat soldiers, but logistic, medical, intelligence etc. in Israel the mandatory service is for men and women (allthough women serve 8 months less than men). the vast majority of the women aren't combat soldiers. and yes, a woman who want to be in a combat unit need to sign a form that if she will have future pregnancy problems as a result of of the combat millitary service she won't be able to sue the army.

[@elleran1969]

A professional properly paid army is always going to be more effective than underpaid reluctant volunteer, I have also heard there is a lot of corruption and bullying that has led to murders and suicides in the Korean military so no a very bad idea. The whole thing needs an overhaul and to be changed to a more attractive career path. In Australia the people who go into military service do so because they want to, they are paid well, helped with housing and relocation packages. There is also the opportunity to study and be paid so it is often seen as a very positive pathway.

[@paolotorres8537]

YES!!

[@TurtleGamers1]

Sweden tried having a professional army for 10 years almost. Didn't really work. Barely anyone enlisted. So they reinstated the draft.

[@NONO-oy1cu]

That would be a terrible idea sadly. They need to draft these young men because of North Korea. But seriously though, the South Korean government needs to pay the soldiers better

[@maliamalis6389]

@@NONO-oy1cu as they said the population is small. I won’t speak much in this tho only Korean men can really

[@EndmayTriumph]

Yes this is not a profession. Just take everyone for it? It's not making an army why mandatory? All delusional leaders see people as numbers. Real sufficient and effective army does not made from people that does not want to be in it.

[@youngfoon]

As a Korean male myself who has completed my military service, I totally think it is unnecessary or at least believe that the system should be changed. What I learned from my service is a better understanding of why the Korean society is the way it is and how our infrastructures were built. However, this was designed decades ago and requires to be more appropriate to the "real world". Instead there should be more privileges and pride for people who do work for the safety of the country. If needed to be mandatory, maybe create shorter frequent terms of basic training so people are prepared for what to do if there ever happens to be an emergency.

[@allenk6373]

so what are you going to do if North Korea will attack ?

[@smaer5093]

Not about the topic but who would dump her boyfriend who's in the military that's so cruel he couldn't even contact her and lol who would dump him he's so cute😂

[@smaer5093]

Troll Armin Arlet really is it something common there woah...for me that means she didn't truely love him

[@mariaobregon2179]

+Los fails de Vicky my boyfriend told me the same

[@perciousmatter7001]

I would have understood why she did that. The person she knew could have changed and plus she cant connect with him.

[@eli------------------0001]

pretty common

[@amdag1]

Her loss man

[@casha6095]

01:06 what the heck! i would totally wait 2 years for that guy if it was me.

[@zafranariffin8069]

Hahahha

[@AsmaaPurity]

You can't judge by only appearance 😉

[@eli------------------0001]

well if he's level can atleast glance at you

[@jinc1950]

For most girls, it’s not simply about patience But when you don’t see your boyfriend for so long you almost feel like you don’t know him anymore and such

[@aquilaaltaire3007]

You say that now but just wait until you're in it. And by the way, you can't contact him whenever you want. Communication is severely limited.

[@justnothing6113]

I'm a guy and I would never go to military. It would be the most traumatic thing in my life. Good that my country doesn't have mandatory military service anymore. Fortunately I wouldn't be able to go anyway because I'd get rank E

[@UrDadBroughtMilk]

That’s great my friend :) Military ain’t easy, you should do things that make you happy and comfortable👍👍

[@rulazu98]

Sooo useful!! This video was soo goood thank you for ur hard work

[@sabbaakram1473]

When north korea is your neighbor it makes sense to have mandatory military service even if it is unpleasant. That poor guy who got dumped whilst he did his!

[@nasri7027]

the person who said that women not having manditory military service could be a form of discrimination got it right. thank you

[@tinomorgenstern3430]

It was the dumbest thing said in the entire video.. How are women the victims when men are forced to do something they don't want to do?

[@BananaBoySUS]

@@tinomorgenstern3430 someone is triggered

[@nasri7027]

@@tinomorgenstern3430 oh word that's not what i meant tho, my agreement wasn't meant to be like "and this is why women are the victims." I personally just meant that government mandated service for the country on the basis of gender is discrimination (against all parties, not on the basis of victimhood or something) because it unfairly subjects a certain group to follow pretty serious guidelines that aren't prescribed to another group. Weird asf to see something i wrote 4 years ago tho lmao

[@kirin1230]

@@tinomorgenstern3430 The mandate isn't victimising women, but it's still a double standard. Not allowing women to enlist is absolutely discrimination and unfair on both genders.

[@kaitlyn6707]

@@kirin1230 they do allow women to enlist.

[@cezy20]

I was wondering if being cut off from society happens all thru the 2 years? I mean if that is what happens no wonder they hate it. Not even in America is like this. Americans don't have mandatory enlistment but those who do enlist they still get to call at least once a month while in training. After training they go to work like normal except it's on a military base and live there. The moral would be so low and depressing if they are isolated for 2 years. No phone calls? No vacation time?

[@Loriani93]

I believe they do have days off/days where family can visit. Also they are allowed to receive letters. But that's about all I've heard

[@junet8835]

cezy20 my bf currently serves South Korean army and he is able to call me at least 3 times a week lol. So they aren't really isolated plus they get to use computers in the weekend and watch tv

[@cezy20]

thanks for the responses :)

[@NanatsuChan]

cezy20 not sure if my reply is too late but from what i know it also depends on which department they work for and which base they are assigned to~ some allow more and some less. But generally nowadays they can use the internet at least on the weekend ( if not more) and they can also call, write letters etc. but usually hand phones are completely forbidden. I heard though that in certain departments/ fields they can actually use it but it really depends on the case! They get vacations too :)

[@ahnsam3426]

I served in the military. U get to watch TV in free time and call 3 times a week as well as days off once in a while, and our friends visit from time to time

[@itsmegmira]

such an interesting topic to discuss; thanks !

[@kdefensemartialarts8097]

Thank you for your videos.

[@paullee3476]

guy from 2:10 speaks the truth with well educated perspective. 1 proud professional soldier > 10 barely 20 yrs old student who wants to go home.

[@dmblum1]

It was unfortunate for my students, who were university English majors. They would leave haflway through their university career, and when they came back their English skills had totally regresssed.

[@edisonguevarra6312]

the Korean peninsula is still at war. only if the war stopped then the mandatory service will do the same

[@DoktorSo]

Quite an interesting topic. Its also cool to see that not everyone has the same opinion :)

[@user-pj9oo6ne3e]

who else is here to read comments?

[@jamesson1154]

이경인 me lol

[@toshi7786]

i'm here only for reading comments lol

[@kjthekilojuliet2408]

외국인들이 군대에 대해 어떤 생각을 가지는지 읽으로 옴. 댓글 보고 느낀점: 대부분의 군대에 가 보지 않은 사람들은 군대의 힘듬을 알지도 이해하지도 못한다는 것

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

What the guy at 4:41 is talking about is the self induced helplessness that alot of Asians, especially men who have mandatory service develop. We lose the sense of initiative and ambitious spirit, making ourselves think that we are constricted by rules and can only follow higher authorities.

[@AsmaaPurity]

Thank you asian boss You never fail to make me learn something interesting and new The best youtube channel ever Keep up the good work Boss

[@animefan320]

As a woman, I think its a unfair that only men have to enlist. Women live in the same country, why should only men have to sacrifice their lives?

[@belkzalpagu2738]

It's unfair indeed. But why do womens have to waste their lives too? The mandatory system is wrong. Its not womens or mens fault

[@phSyn]

@@belkzalpagu2738 yeah, i think making it mandatory is fundementally wrong. Like, they didn't ask to be born in south Korea, and the problem that SK has with NK has absolutely nothing to do with them nor the future generation, yet they're being used as a tool to be sacrifice in the name of nation.

[@jrc2946]

@@belkzalpagu2738 so it's ok that men's lives are wasted but wrong that women have to waste theirs too?

[@UrDadBroughtMilk]

@@belkzalpagu2738 it should never be mandatory, agreed

[@strengthbuild]

The older gentleman had the right idea. There is a massive difference between people making their career the military and the people who just go to get it over with. Don't know why they go hard on them. I'd like to see a video like this with Israeli people who also have mandatory military service.

[@jamesson1154]

bfchang exactly, much better to have someone who wants to fight than someone whose forced to fight.

[@maryhadalamb17]

2 years spent on something that won't take you anywhere in life financially or career wise, right at a time where their peers (women, friends abroad) are working towards their life goals. It puts the Korean men behind their peers. People talk about "starting points", this just deliberately puts a dent in it. Korean men are putting their life on hold to serve. I have a feeling if there's no N. Korea, there may not be a conscription.

[@BigBoss-sm9xj]

No dunno Einstein

[@kizzy3563]

Interesting topic to hear about from a foreigner's perspective.

[@yeojinha930]

The thing that I learned in Military is freedom is so sweet thing. You can't imagine how it is sweet and who watchs this video don't know that they'r already having freedom. I joined Korean Military and I was discharged because of my lung problem I haven't done my military service I am still doing it as a social service. Anyway, don't want to go Amry ever again...

[@user-oj1hj8qs1o]

Male : 2y of mandatory sacrifice = 2y late start for job comparing to their female counterparts. Still it is socially obligatory for male to prepare “housing and car” when one has to marry.

[@user-ps2se8zp5d]

so many young koreans are treated almost like a 'slave' in korean military. advertising that military service is the way to be a patriot, the nation only wants them to protect from north korea with less cost. what is worse, most of koreans say that men who struggled military can become real men and that's just one of social experieces you will have although terrible incidents happened in the military. more and more well being for military services is really needed.

[@NoctLightCloud]

Jason Shin Can you give examples of said terrible incidents? I'm really curious!

[@chris-id6vk]

military service is tough, but definitely not terrible. i doubt ass1 has experience in the military, nor is even a korean citizen...

[@dusdn0205]

NoctLightCloud sgt.lim shoot out incident, pvt.yoon murder incident. both happened in 2014. google it

[@joemuis23]

yeah I would be totally traumatized in the military

[@kiimm999]

@@NoctLightCloud a lot of bullying, suicides, car accidents, bomb accidents etc.. one of my coworkers killed himself, one of my coworkers cut other coworkers leg.. etc..

[@harrisonhatton6985]

it would be wonderful if you included Korean subtitles along with the English subs in these videos!

[@mikesoo5673]

I'm glad I watched this and heard what people had to say about the mandatory Korean military enlistment for Korean men. ☺

[@carlosantizar]

Twenty years ago in my counry, Spain, the military service was mandatory too. Here the service lasted 9 months and there were another alternatives like serve in red cross or some public services. Luckly, that finished long ago and these days the service is completly voluntary.

[@marwan.ux1]

Great to hear another perspective

[@user-eg9cy6ms4v]

쟛같은 군대 안갈수 있으면 안가는게 답이지. 20대 초반에 시간만 낭비하고 빽있고 인맥있고 가진것들 가지도 않으면서 일반서민은 울며겨자먹기로 어쩔수없이 오라는데 안갈수도없고 반강제적으로 입대하고 2년이라는 청춘을 국가에 봉사하지만 남는건 아무것도 없지..

[@reveur7170]

온가 전여자지만 군대가는남자불쌍함.. 여자친구헤어지고 군대가서 기합받거나 맞을수도있고 돈도 거의 안주지않나요? 윗사람들배만채우고 일반성인남성고생만시키죠.. 돈이라도 좀주던가 불쌍함..

[@hjy001017]

온가 '남는건 아무 건도 없지'라는가슴이 찢어질 것같네요.국가와 희생과의 관계는 어디까지 한해지는 것인지..여자지만 휴전국 군민으로써 여성모병제, 여성기초군사훈련이나 보건교육 의무화등등 이러한 제도를 도입해야한다고 생각하고 국가안보에 관심이 많은 사람입니다. 국방의 의무를 지키다 돌아가신 영령들이나 신체적 정신적피해입은 사람에게 개좆같은 대우해주는 정부보면 진짜 할복해서 지네 가족들 나중에 전쟁나면 응급식량으로 장기다 빼먹으라고 냉동해놓고 싶다

[@user-ek3pu6mu3e]

35살까지 갈 수 있으니까 그때쯤 가면 되잖아요

[@user-ec9qb6xy6x]

군대 를 가는 남성의 노고는 당연히 인정 합니다. 하지만 여성의 사회 구조적인 차별엔 관심도 없던 남성들이 그저 자신들의 부당한 처우에만 관심을 가져주길 바란다는게 굉장히 아이러니 하네요. 여성은 군복무에서 '제외'를 당한거지 여성들이 군대 가기 싫다고 시위해서 안가는게 아닙니다. 그리고 모든 곳에서 차별을 당하고, 혐오를 당하는 사회적 약자인 여성이 현 제도의 불평등에 싸울 수 있겠습니까? 성평등이 이루어 져야 여성들도 군복무를 할 수 있는겁니다... 더 말하기엔 글이 너무 길어지니 구글에 여성 혐오, 페미니즘 서치하셔서 어느정도 배우시는게 좋을 것 같네요. 수고하세요.

[@dob643]

- 오잉 너두가렴ㅎㅎ35살에

[@imparistaxidriver]

아시안보스님 어제 충고 잘 받았습니다! 더욱 성장하는 크리에이터가 될께요 ㅎ

[@delightcat__]

인터뷰 하신 분들 하나같이 말씀 참 잘하시네요 굿굿

[@sandrahito5668]

Thank god that at least one of the men said that the fact that women do not do the mandatory service is discriminatory towards us. We are equally capable to do trainings like those, stop seeing our gender like if we were weak arrghhh.

[@benp9793]

You aren't capable of the same training though.

[@sandrahito5668]

Moishe Gersherkuntzmanleibermanwitzstein I'm sure we are.

[@benp9793]

Sandra González Hito I can link you a list of the strongest people alive if you'd like

[@sandrahito5668]

Moishe Gersherkuntzmanleibermanwitzstein Having strength doesn't mean capable of doing the military service.

[@benp9793]

Sandra González Hito never said it did

[@user-rk2it7gi2f]

Military service MUST NOT be mandatory. State should not have a right to force citizens to do something but simply obey the laws. Serving the home country is a good thing. But any legal work is serving to the country. Then, why only military service must be mandatory? It is not fair

[@TheDoveking]

Great video and looking forward to more, I have a small amount of constructive criticism. First, if possible make your videos on such an interesting topic longer :) Second. Let's hear why the ladies think. I know military service in Korea is only for males, but it effects women too. I would like to hear their side. Thanks Asian boss, regardless of my options I'm really enjoying your content and I'm looking forward to more, I live in HongKong and hope you can have a look in this direction, I have a few ideas:)

[@Osvath97]

In Sweden we used to have conscription (well, we actually just reintroduced it). Instead of having people serve for two years, we required them to do training, and then afterwards they would go on repeat training throughout the years. So, on average people had to spend less time in the military. 3 - 15 months, with pretty much all of it being training. Usually 9 months for the average infantry, 11 months for elite infantry, between about 12 - 15 months for special forces, but it has shifted a few months here and there through the years. The results were actually very good and most people who went through it thought positively of it. In the case of World War III Sweden was a very highly likely strategic target for the Soviet Union, and people understood that. South Korea has to be one of the countries with the most obvious need for a strong military, because of North Korea. I am surprised that not more South Koreans realise the danger.

[@samaraisnt]

You wrote WW3 lol, but that sounds like a much better system.

[@jibreelkeddo7030]

Conscription should be for 9 months or a year maximum. Soldiers will receive the training and knowledge to defend the nation without losing that critical extra year of their youth. While conscripted, soldiers must be offered at least 8 hours a week of either trade school classes (mechanic, medic, IT, carpentry, construction) that give them real life job options. Soldiers should also have the option of taking 1 medical track class and one engineering track class per semester so that they aren’t a year behind when they graduate if they want to go to university. Knocking out sequential/blocking courses tremendously softens the blow of missing a year of school. It won’t hurt much to miss out on your history gen-ed which you can take any time. But it WILL hurt A LOT to miss Calc 1, because it will delay your graduation by 6 months because so many classes have Calc 3 as prerequisite.

[@swan9721]

what if someone genuinely disagrees with the idea of war and doesn't want to have anything to do with it

[@getout873]

You go to jail

[@munirahaliakbar]

trying my best to understand about this issue since Jin enlisted yesterday. i miss him so much!

[@mina7422]

:D yay new video

[@ece9948]

we have this in turkey as well and it really saddens me because innocent people actually die here because of the kurdish attacks and our government does so little to prevent this. its like if u serve near the kurdish people: u might get killed or you serve in more developed cities: you survive

[@Name-og4th]

Your government drafts you specially to rise hate of kurdians. Your government uses you to cover themselves much like terrorists hold people to cover themselves from police snipers.

[@nielsmichiels1939]

Yep, feel sorry for you guys. I just don't get that the turkish goverment doesn't get that if you trreat people like shit, you get shit back. I'm not condoning the violance by the kurds by the way, but i can understand it. And erdogan only seems to make it worse and you're right there in the middle of it.

[@ece9948]

NIELS MICHIELS i dont know how you can understand the things they do though. All i know is that they want a piece of our land to from their own country. And by our land i dont mean just the turkish people its also theirs. If they could just chill we could live in peace. People here dont hate the kurdish people at all we just hate the terrorists. Will they be happy anyway if they manage to form a country with innocent people's blood or in their hands...? Anyway i talked too much but i hope a kurdish person could see this and think about it.

[@nielsmichiels1939]

Jungkook The Fencing Man Well the problem with the situation is: *reason 1:* Some believe they were first there. So why should they assimilate to the turks? *reason 2:* They think that the turks want to erase everything them makes them kurds. identity: the goverment seems to view everyone as "a turk" in turkey, if they like it or not. Others only seem to view the kurds as the "mountain Turks who lost their language". (which is kinda insulting.) During the ottoman empire the kurds had at least some form of self automony. Something ata turk got rid of to form a more western style goverment. Which didn't fall him in good graces with them. Language: (self explanatory) the goverment is trying to erase kurd language for decades. history: It isn't a secret that erdogan is rewriting history as he sees fit. Including the kurd's history. You want proof of this just try to find an old copy of ata turk's biography. (and i mean realy old) And then get a new one. you'll see that many things are erased. (Especialy about his views on religion) *Reason 3:* If you treat people like shit, they want to leave. Like who is erdogan (and the administrations before him) hurting in responce to atacks? Is it the terrorists or is it the normal kurdish population? There is a kurdish region just over the border with turkey's kurdish region in iraq, *it is less bombed out than the turkish side* XD Isn't it weird that the kurdish region in a country *at war* had a better quality of life than the one in turkey? That says a lot don't you think? And most of them don't even like the pkk, Even the ones that would like independece. But they are always the ones who get punished.

[@Name-og4th]

Jungkook The Fencing Man it is a natural right of every ethnicity to separate and form tier state. Turks must learn this to stop suffering from their their ignorance. If Turks don't like it, they are also free to split from Turkey and to make their counrty.

[@anbra4972]

I just think that any country that still has mandatory miltary service and death penalty must have something wrong at the core of their systems.

[@anbra4972]

@@moelester2797 Sadly I never had a chance to spend enough time in Finland to say something about this specific case. All I can say is that there are many Countries that are at the peak of technological evolution (and everything that comes with it) but most of the time those Countries have, for example, the highest suicide rates in the world. I think every case has to be analyzed from an objective, generalized point of view. Am I too naive to think and believe that we shouldn't be prepared to resolve our issues as humankind with other means instead of plain force and violence?

[@Thebeautyofphysics_89-92.]

Death penalty isn't bad

[@hag12100]

The South Korean government may want to offer "Alternative Service" where you join a law enforcement agency, intelligence agency or other "protective" agencies, such as firefighters, paramedics, or specialized medical services(Medical school/ advanced dentistry )

[@jinxinliu2497]

I heard that the military pay very little for the service. So basically, it is 2-year long forced free labor for the military.

[@user-ez6tr5lp4g]

That's right. It's actually forced labor pretending to be a duty of national defense.

[@1stbbabbabba]

conscription may have been necessary in the past but not anymore

[@nolancummings9590]

The issue is, that without conscription S. Korea would not have the capability to have a military with the numbers required by the nation. Being a nation of 50 Million people. South Korea currently has a standing military of 495,000 with 3 million in reserve, this is with conscription. The USA being a nation of 318 million, Has 1,400,000 active duty members serving in the military with 1.1 million in reserve. The USA being a much larger nation can sustain these numbers without conscription, remember also that the United States does retain a draft registry to conscript its citizens in times of war. Only 0.4% of the US population is serving in the military. If South Korea had the same percentage of citizens in an all volunteer military there would only be 200,000 members of their armed forces, a 94% decrease. South Korea is technically still at war with North Korea, although a ceasefire was agreed upon at the end of the Korean War, A peace treaty was never signed. Thus South Korea is a nation currently in a state of war although there is currently no armed conflict. With the way the world is right now, the future is very uncertain and we really have no idea what will come and I believe S. Korea needs to be prepared for anything with a large, powerful military.

[@DreamerXX]

I agree that they need the military power to fight off any potential invaders, however I agree with of the person's point of view in the video. Having all these young, unmotivated people in the military by force will only create a group of low morale, low skill, and "cannon fodder" in real times of war. In my opinion, it would make a lot more sense for S. Korea to have a small, but professional force made up of volunteers. They could also incentives people into joining, showing it as prestigious, having patriotism, or other social economical benefits. In this day and age of high tech warfare, I don't believe that just having more people will win you the war, and considering that S. Korea has a much more technological advance military, the greater number is not as important compared to having a prepared and motivated elite force.

[@ferrari5487]

Conscription even in war is just retarded, they should mobilize partisans. Look at the Soviets in WW2, many conscripted young men were like sheep to the Germans. When it comes down to the most important thing in war, it is about morale, discipline, and the will power of the soldiers. It does not matter how big your army is(like the Soviets), the thing is, are they doing it because this is what they want to do? And like DreamerXGX said, Korea should work with what willing soldiers they have and make them into a really powerful but small unit and he also mentioned high tech, this also breaks conscription, if one nuke can destroy a whole city, your soldiers are gone, so what is a big army going to contribute to your country?

[@patthonsirilim5739]

if north Korea collapse then yea i dont think south korea needs a conscription base army do you want to know what country really dont need military conscription at all Singapore my country 2 years of full time military service and 10 years of reservist cycle duty and not an enemy in site all our neighboring countries are part of asean which we are a member of

[@mcestabon]

Naive to think SG doesn't need conscription based army. SG has a history of occupation during WW2 and potential aggressors directly north of the border in malaysia, and also possibly south/southeast in indonesia. Are you unaware of the radical movements which occur in those countries and also in south thailand? Not to mention, SG and malaysian relations have been rocky since 1965. SG is a small city nation, and without a conscription based army, it would be rendered powerless to neighbouring countries wishing to take it. Although SG is "big boy" in the small-market which is ASEAN, without a proper army, or any other form of defense, SG wouldn't be able to brandish the power it does in the area right now. Moreover, Korea's military conscription isn't solely based on the existence of North Korea. The Korean peninsula is bordered by two of the largest and most powerful countries in the world (China, Japan) and also Russia. For a mid-sized country like Korea, a military is crucial for survival in the area. Do you think Singapore could have even survived if it were located in east asia? Would it survive with only a full-time army in SEA? I'm highly doubtful.

[@user-du2dr4em5e]

군대를 갔다와서 얻은건 날려버린 젊은날의 시간.....들.. 2년 놀았어도 더 신나고 리드미컬하게 지냈을거 같음. 아.. 하나 남은건 미필자를 찐따로 보게되는 쓰잘때 없는 군부심... 내 2년간 무급노동의 마지막 보상심리같음

[@elsvlly]

Imagine you are at your peak, at your best time to chase your life, your dreams, when you are about to start a new life as adult and your country told you to leave and sacrifice it all for years with no reward. That's hard. I salute every one on them

[@BominYarou]

Asian Boss is growing steadily now~ happy to see that (✳¯︶¯✳)

[@kk-ks4jq]

남녀를 떠나서 분단국가인 우리나라는 징병제를 실시하는게 맞는데 지금 군대 꼬라지보면 차라리 모병제로 돌려서 처우 개선하는게 나을듯 싶어요 월급이 고작 10 20만원밖에 안되고 가혹행위 고발도 자유로운 분위기도 아니고 위에서 돈이란 돈은 쪽쪽빨아먹는데 애국심을 미끼로 그딴데 갔다오라는게 좀 불합리함.. 아무도 안가야지 정신을 차리지

[@user-eg9cy6ms4v]

MS S 님도 군대갔다 와서 알겠지만 저는 전역한지 얼마 안된 핵짬찌 전역자이지만 군대 동기생활관 생기고 1년 단위인가 6개월 단위로 동기로 해서 말놓는거 때문에 완전 개판으로 됬어요

[@60mmmortarcrewfdcs.koreana62]

사실 저출산이나 청년실업문제에는 헬조선의 징병제가 가장 큰 원인인데 다들 모르는척하는거지. 군대때문에 경력단절이 일어나고 2년이라는 시간을 온갖 부조리가 일어나는 군대내에서 보낸 남자들은 제대했을때 뇌가 굳어있고 사회생활을 재시작하는데 어려움을 겪게되고 이로인해 취업을 늦게 하는거지(한국 첫취업 평균연령:32~) 그럼 왜 모병제로 전환을 안하는거냐고? 군대이미 갔다온 남자들은 지들 후배들이 군대안가는걸 보기 배아프니까 북한타령하면서 모병제를 반대하는거고 여자들은 취업할때 경쟁자들이 조금이라도없으면 좋으니까 모병제를 반대하는거지

[@60mmmortarcrewfdcs.koreana62]

날으는제비 군대 가기싫어하는 젊은이들 강제로 개나소나 끌고가면 그 젊은이들이 전쟁났을때 한국을 위해 싸워줄거라고 생각하나요?

[@gnrepetova]

He said, "If you have less teeth you get exempted!" Why so savage? LOL

[@sjeoendiowksbsjsel]

Korea is surrounded by large countries just like China, Japan, Russia. Not because of North Korea

[@mylogic2104]

국방의 의무에서 배제된 것이 오히려 여성에 대한 차별이다. -공감-

[@camella1978]

The purpose of military conscription is to protect the assets/investments of the rich elites and politicians in the country. Not to defend the country as most are made to believe.

[@Bynasf]

Completely depends on your view

[@arnavsrivastava1158]

Partly true.

[@ckbee]

4:05 love his insight

[@lillievonleipzig4728]

Move to Europe

[@Eunmi24]

It's understandable why it's mandatory in South Korea because of the small population and them being neighbors to North Korea. I'm sure there's other reasons too. It makes me wonder, how many Korean citizens would volunteer if it wasn't mandatory?

[@eerye70]

I don't live in a country that is still technically at war with a country right next to me, so i don't feel qualified or entitled to have an opinion on this, but we do have the professional soldier here and i can't help but agree that it makes a huge difference in the skill sets. Also, for a country that has such competition for jobs, this would seem like a great way to get a new avenue of work.

[@aaronhangshing5976]

guy at 0:56 is so cute omg

[@DedexxxArthur]

i was his face in the thumbnail and decided to watch .he is cute

[@fiend_xdns]

Kaito .X .otaku same lol

[@nadiarodriguez4036]

Aaron Hangshing saw his face con the thumbnail that's why I watched this lol

[@raii5556]

I thought it was jaykeeout that's why i watched it

[@aqsashaikh2816]

Aaron Hangshing and he got dumped by his girlfriend 😂

[@inessousa3449]

i felt sorry for the guy that got dumped because he was in the army ; ( who ever she was dont worry she wasn t worth it u ll find someone better that will stay with u trough all the hard times :*

[@kai-dp3cg]

personally i am a singaporean and in singapore there is mandatory service too but we are more lenient in the military service when we serve for the two years (18-20) after that we will get posted into a certain service for example the air force or the navy. that’s only where it gets tougher. in the possibility of the war singapore calls them back. i don’t know about korea but many singaporean boys are actually also against this mandatory service but because they understand what war is like and what they have to do for this country that’s when they learn their duty for the country. and those that think that mandatory service should be optional and voluntary. (referring to the guy that said it). like you said there are many that are against it so if there are so many against the idea. then who would volunteer right? and singapore is a very small island that’s why we have this mandatory service. just like in south korea they may be slightly bigger but still they are a small country. in america it’s so big that’s why i find it understandable that it’s not compulsory cause there is a bigger population of men that would go.

[@tombamlee3419]

I don’t speak korean but i have a korean citizen snd i need to serve! It’s hard to become, but it’s nice to be one.

[@munzilla]

In my country Pakistan, our military is in the top 10s also but contrary to Korea getting into the military academy is quite a competition! the selection is quite strict and youngsters even wait to try for next terms on failure.

[@nolancummings9590]

The issue is, that without conscription S. Korea would not have the capability to have a military with the numbers required by the nation. Being a nation of 50 Million people. South Korea currently has a standing military of 495,000 with 3 million in reserve, this is with conscription. The USA being a nation of 318 million, Has 1,400,000 active duty members serving in the military with 1.1 million in reserve. The USA being a much larger nation can sustain these numbers without conscription, remember also that the United States does retain a draft registry to conscript its citizens in times of war. Only 0.4% of the US population is serving in the military. If South Korea had the same percentage of citizens in an all volunteer military there would only be 200,000 members of their armed forces, a 94% decrease. South Korea is technically still at war with North Korea, although a ceasefire was agreed upon at the end of the Korean War, A peace treaty was never signed. Thus South Korea is a nation currently in a state of war although there is currently no armed conflict. With the way the world is right now, the future is very uncertain and we really have no idea what will come and I believe S. Korea needs to be prepared for anything with a large, powerful military. This being said, I think the Republic of Korea should retain conscription, but should give members better salaries and benefits.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Nolan Cummings Now that in the recent census where females outnumbered males, what will be the future of this mandatory service?

[@thisiskevin1000]

***** Robotics and AI. But your average Koreans want peace and reunification with the North, as well as expulsion of American military presence in their soil and formulate an independent foreign policy

[@aussieman1234]

Nolan You've copied and pasted the same response in 4 comments... This doesn't do anything to make your point any more agreeable because you think it is. It just makes you look like you are parroting and regurgitating something without actually having your own opinion, even if that's not your intention. While yes there needs to be more benefits for military service. I do not think conscription or the draft is a good idea for a democracy at all. No one should have to be forced into the military because of some war/fear mongers law.

[@apachepx]

Nolan Cummings well written

[@sixshot4]

democracy is an overused term that is very laughable. South korea is a presidental constitutional republic. It runs on laws that people can vote Representatives to veto these draft laws. Its ironic how you say its not a good idea for a democracy when the textbook definition of a democracy is ruled by the majority.

[@ihategayass]

we technically do have mandatory military service in the states. you have to register for selective service if you are between the ages of 18 and 25 incase there is draft

[@mytaebae8553]

Choi Min-ho has to go to the military in May. He's leaving on May 12th,my birthday is on May 13th. *Cries in the corner of a very dark room*

[@xxnike0629xx]

The reason why South Korea has mandatory 2 year (give or take) military service is because they're still technically at war with North Korea. Honestly, I can see why they have such a law in place for all citizens of South Korea, but as mentioned in this video, I think it is unnecessary. They're forcing its citizens to go through 2 years of their lives to train themselves in case of a war. It's been a little over 60 years since the armistice was signed and there hasn't been any conflict. Also, the fact that women are not forced into the military service can be viewed as sexist. A lot of these rules and laws in South Korea (not saying others countries are not like this) are antiquated and created decades ago as a precaution. Times have changed a lot and I think that they should make military service a volunteer basis. That way, they're more likely to train more dedicated and specialized military personnel rather than people who are there because they are told to be there. The requirement of being a male, physically fit, and mentally fit sort of makes my point a bit relevant since they have exceptions to it. So some people could use their family's wealth or political influence to get out of service. Some could intentionally gain weight to get our of service, Some could (god forbid) get into a physical accident that leaves them permanently scarred. Granted there are other ways people can service like working at a company, but even then they have to do the basic training thing from what i understand. And to be honest, if there is an actual war between the North and South Korea, I feel like a large majority would be handled by South Korea's military allies like the US. Basically, I'm saying that the mandatory military service requirement is a very old world, antiquated practice that needs to be changed.

[@sixshot4]

xxnike629xx the reason why there hasnt been any big conflict is because of these contingencies such as mandatory conscription and defense. Its true if wae breaks America will lead the war but how many korean casualties?

[@guy16year4month6]

What!, even in india it not mandatory with population of 1.3 billion and having two big enemy's countries china and pakistan

[@BLU_GR.Y]

The guy in the grey sweater who was advocating for voluntary enlistment into the army is totally correct. if anything was to happen, god forbid, it would be better to have people who are actually well-trained and prepared as career soldiers rather than just ordinary citizens who are only there for 2 years just to fulfill their mandatory service the s. korean government should somehow encourage more voluntary enlistment for *both* women and men - provide some really good benefits or pay since it's a super crucial job anyways

[@asadjavaid1207]

That blue jacket handsome guy...I.give up subtitles...let's give a delicious treat to eyes...

[@swatirajput4097]

The man , who dumbed by his gf looks like yang yang ( Chinese actor ) and his hair also so nice . I can wait for him more than 2 years 💏💏

[@kalatapie]

Personally I think that professional soldiers are better prepared mentally to face combat and the sort of mental training they go through Is damaging to one's mind and If applied on conscripts (soldiers doing mandatory service) It would have many negative effects on society as a whole, and even without this crippling mental training this one guy reports having a lowered self esteem and repressed opinions around elders. That Is why conscripts miss this essential part of their training and that Is why a single professional soldier Is worth ten conscripts. In a situation that would make the conscript hesitate, the professional will shoot and In a situation when the conscript will panic, the professional will act calm and handle the situation. That Is why I believe that incentives like a higher salary and more generous support for veterans should be provided In order for more people to volunteer and eleminate countries's dependancies on mandatory service. I also believe that In South Korea's case In particular, they maintain their huge army as a show for north korea. Their actual Intentions are not to wage warfare as an armed conflict with a rogue nuclear nation would go as well as you'd expect and the result would be more or less the same regardless of army strenght: total nuclear annihilation. In south korea's case these conscripts are there as a cheaper variant of the professional soldiers; A way for the government to save Itself a few million dollars per year In this geopolitical theatrical perfomance. Completely understandable but It still sucks that these people have to lose two years of their lives because their government has been playing a 50 year long game of "who's got the bigger dick" with north korea

[@Brenda-xy6bc]

the tall guy in the greyish-whiteish shirt and pure-grey sweater : yes, equality!

[@tyger441]

Can you guys please do a video interviewing female ROKA soldiers and ask them what made them want to join? As an American Soldier, I often wonder...

[@vijayakodihalli4802]

In India there no such rule of mandatory. and women can also join the military if they want nd in our country voluntarily most people applied for the military service which is more than the requirements. :)

[@Wildadventures426]

Ya, that's true because I am also an Indian 😊 But actually the thing is that as you know India is the 2nd most populous country in the world so our population is veryyyy large😂 so here are many persons sufficient enough to serve in the military sector and that's why it is kept voluntary....but in South Korea it's population is very small so that's why there every male is being forced to take military training.

[@user-gi6sv3il6y]

one of them talked about MC mong's scandal ROFL

[@leahhhx]

I didn’t realise this was a thing and now I’m here bc I’m army 😭

[@RaynesX]

Barber: What you want fam? Jaemin: I want to be the presenter of Asian Boss Barber: I got you fam.

[@analyticallycorrect]

Petition to have Jaemin interview in more videos....for obvious reasons.

[@timothyk3505]

Turkey has mandatory military service as well. However you can choose to pay a large sum of money to the government so you can be exempted. I was born in the U.K but my dad is Turkish. I want to have a Turkish citizenship but that means when I turn 18 I will have to do military service.....something I want to avoid at ALL costs.

[@rizzy2120]

in my opinion having ppl get forced to join the military without asking for there own thoughts and opinion is sad im pretty sure thats why ppl probably move out of there own country or other reasons bc its wrong if they were in a different country that doesnt feel that why they would have a better time bc where i live boys/girls arent asked to join they do it own there own well

[@UrDadBroughtMilk]

Fr, it saddens me seeing male Koreans who don’t want to join the military, and good for them, they should have a right if they want to join or not

[@kaptainkpop6750]

I had a friend in HS his dad is from Korea , his dad never had to do service because he moved to the USA during college life.

[@UrDadBroughtMilk]

That’s good

[@aliesfahanian2103]

We have the same "problem" in Iran. I just ask you a couple of questions: "What if I don't want to participate in a war which previous generations started it? Why I have to pay the price for it? And you think it makes me to like the country? Or to hate it?" That's all.

[@alfieh3477]

Just my opinion but I don’t think anyone should be forced to join the military, especially just because of their gender

[@UrDadBroughtMilk]

Agreed

[@softteddyniel]

This is random but that guy at 1:00 is cute 😂 I love his smile LOL If only the conflict between the two parts didn't exist I believe this wouldn't be mandatory in the first place 😅

[@misarabage1359]

in my country the military education is mandatory only for those men who couldn't manage to get into university or college until 24 years. after 24 it's not mandatory. so it really urge men to study and get more than one degree. there are also exeptions like if a man has got children of a very young age, or he is the only man in a family (meaning only male who takes care of a big family as a father, also only person who support a family financially) and if he takes care of an ill/disabled relative they have a permission to skip the military training. also health conditions are taken in account, and some people with serious heart disease, mental disorder can skip serving in military. there are different types of military trainings: for professional purposes (where women are also welcomed as regular soldiers/students) and for basic mandatory education (which is voluntarily for women). professionals train and study for 4 years as in normal universities, while the others train from 2 month to a year depending on the region they live in. also apart from the military training our school education system has got the mandatory military course at 9th grade in high school, where we get to learn basic knowledge like how to survive the earthquake, fire, bombing and etc. also they teach us basic military skills, commands, and first aid. and of course we are also taught how to assemble the kalashnikov aka47, how to use a granate and how to put on a gas mask in 7 seconds. lol. and yeah a lot of other survival skills as well.

[@Alyssa5913]

This is a very important issue to discuss. But OMG a lot of these men are soooooo handsome! 😍

[@jpkimsavenergy]

When you apply for the job women get extra 3 points but disability person gets 0.5 point veterans get 0.5 point This Is South Korea now

[@AdityaPrasad007]

Put a poll, if most people don't want the draft remove it from law. If most people do want it then check if most girls also voted to keep it. Then add girls to the draft too.

[@AdityaPrasad007]

@✷jin's ramen⁷✷ hmm good point, removal isn't really an option at this point.

[@tafazziReadChannelDescription]

nah democracy is stupid

[@carnivalbeast6307]

Then south Korea would be invaded in no time

[@quickzilver333]

All I can say is I will go to any Battle Field with the ROK Soldiers and Marines any time any day. I am glad to have trained with them when I was in the US Army.

[@arcie3716]

I wish I saw this video sooner