What does "36000 Fast Beat" on the dial mean?

Today we have a lovely Eterna-matic Fast Beat on the bench, beating at the insane rate of 36000 beats per hour. And how come the movement inside it looks so familiar?
Join us for a full service and repair of this very cool watch with a movement that has a very famous bloodline. On the way we'll go on a few tangents and I confess that my wife caught me...
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[@milanchristi7939]

Another great history lesson mixed with humor and expert craftsmanship.Thank you, Sir! I love watching these videos.

[@damnAmsterdammer]

Nice! so many videos to catch up with and not enough time. Thanks for making this look so easy.

[@a1nelson]

I _really_ appreciate the fact that you show most if not all of the lubrication points. There are some other good watch repair channels out there, but they often gloss over this important area (it often looks like they’re assembling the movements almost completely dry!). For those of us getting more serious about the hobby/career, those “little” details are critical. Thanks much. Also, thanks for the history lesson and another great video overall.

[@nukvar23]

Most of the other channels are made by hobbyists, keep that in mind

[@a1nelson]

@@nukvar23 Good point. To be clear, I don’t think that the people behind some good channels, such as Wristwatch Revival, are actually failing to perform proper lubrication - it’s just that those “boring” yet _very_ useful details get edited out of the final videos.

[@nukvar23]

@@a1nelson wristwatch revival is adorable, but since he’s an absolute and untrained beginner (which explains why his videos are heavily edited) he would most probably miss many details

[@donnyboon2896]

Another excellent video. You do beautiful work. 😃 Don't worry about maintaining a strict schedule. These are gems that are always a welcome surprise. 🇸🇯🇺🇸🇸🇯🇺🇸

[@floydingram603]

That's a beautiful case.

[@red75v67]

Stian, your wife must love those funny voices! What a beautiful and unusual dial and a pretty cool watch all round. Great video on that fast beat movement. Cheers, Howard

[@charlesflint9048]

I love the smooth sweep of the seconds hand. The dial is beautiful. I already want one.

[@pipodorologio1648]

interesting, base 2824 with an adjusted geartrain..love the humor, ...very nice dial btw, thanks for sharing

[@dbaider9467]

That dial design is just beautiful. I have an AS 1920 in a Hamilton Clermont - one of my favorite watches.

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

That is a beauty. Passed on a similar one at a yard sale some years ago. Kicking myself ever since.

[@robewalk2]

Stian, not only a great history lesson in this episode, but also a quote from Mark Twain! I wouldn't worry about being caught doing voices, but if you're hearing voices in your head that might be a problem. Lol. The dial does look unusual and beautiful. Question: What is more of a problem to a watches function, too much lubrication or not enough? Again, I look forward to your videos and hoping you and yours remain healthy and safe. Cheers from this old retired coot living the dream in Tennessee.

[@nickjohnson217]

I just serviced a ETA 2409 my first time on that movement and I took the canon pinion of before disassembling the keyless side and inadvertently pulled off the minute driving wheel off the pinion I couldn’t work out why the hand wouldn’t turn after reassembly and oil it took me a few attempts before I realised my error but luckily the wheel pressed back into the recessed pinion at the base and it fixed it perfectly. Lovely movements I have to say and a pleasure to tinker with.

[@franka9760]

Really nice work on a very cool movement. I especially like the dial. I was surprised to see the yellow plastic movement holder though.

[@leestrada1]

It is wonderful to watch at your videos, great information. I like very much the historical information you give.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Luis, that's great to hear :)

[@demmertp]

Love the Zen-like gong sounds as the case parts drop into the cleaning solution. Much better than the ultrasonic cleaner sounds.

[@laurusschluep7464]

Was expecting a balls joke going into the video and as usual you delivered 👍😂

[@VintageWatchServices]

You, sir, have a very bad sense of humour. Me likey! 😂

[@ygrbooks]

What a treat to get up early on Sunday morning and watch one of your videos: thank you very much, Stian. Your explanation on the Fast.Beat watches makes a lot of sense as they seemed to need more tender loving care than what customers were used to. Though I would put on a louder strap (orange anyone?) on this watch from the 70s.

[@CrimFerret]

Nice looking watch.

[@frohnnielsen]

Such a pleasure to watch your videos. Thank you.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Glad you like them!

[@alanpreston3111]

What a beautiful old watch , love the hour markers , another great refurb, thanks for the entertainment 👍🏻🏋️‍♀️🏋️‍♀️

[@haraldmiller4894]

First class explanations. Thanks a lot.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks, Harald!

[@clivesouthafrica2086]

Very nice watch. Good background. Marvellous close-up camera work. Great video.

[@bullnose01]

Stunning watch., especially the dial set in the sunburst-finished cushion case. It almost looks like it was milled from a single block of 316L steel. Very 1970s heavy metal, industrial. I noticed that you changed the stock footage of your Elma cleaning machine. You must be getting close to finally getting your workshop finished.

[@VintageWatchServices]

I take your hint! 😂

[@bullnose01]

@@VintageWatchServices 😉

[@zamykarimjee4167]

Thanks, Stian. I love Eterna.

[@jessesmith4541]

14:30 *warning for those with headphones-Mjöllnir makes its appearance. Those are some of the tallest hour markers I've seen. Towers.

[@De4thInc4rn4te16]

that is a very cool dial and watch! great work as usual Stian

[@johnsrabe]

That dial! Nice work as always. And, for the first time, I saw you putting the lid onto the Fixodrop parts container. That explains everything. Thanks.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks Angelino! And yes, I remember seeing a question once about the parts falling out into the liquid but couldn't find it again... So if that was you, consider it answered :)

[@johnsrabe]

@@VintageWatchServices Yep. That was me. I thought it was some magic involving fluid dynamics.

[@brucebarlow6604]

Stian it's great to hear that there has been a little trouble in paradise lately not unusual to be perfect every time. Also good to see Hammer time back the apprentices at Arnold's watch school will be very excited to review this posting. Take care and keep well from NZ.

[@sectortwelve12]

Часы из 1970-х годов самые красивые для меня! Good job and great watch!

[@johnhull2941]

lovely watch beautiful dial great video again

[@retiredafce3373]

I just picked up a Citizen Homer 21 jewel Japanese Railway watch. It’s awesome! I’ve been running it all week and it’s running great.

[@ro63rto]

Very cool looking watch.

[@jozsefizsak]

That's a very attractive and interesting watch, for sure. Thanks for this.

[@kswaminathan5439]

Beautiful dial and as usual a very enjoyable video.

[@MrLukealbanese]

What a beauty Stian. Nice one.

[@mikebruegger8654]

Great commentary as always! Love it.... 😊

[@covaiganesh7398]

Super watch sir 👍

[@kevinmangan7124]

I always learn something new, I'll keep struggling with my old Waltham movement till I get it right

[@fulvioplatania3091]

great job Maestro!

[@rbruce63]

I remember the high-beat Seiko watches and of course the Eternamatics. I wondered then if they could face up the precision of the Seiko Quartz that my father bought me in 1979 at the Miami Airport for $150.00 The rest is history! It was an earthquake for the proud Swiss watch industry and a windfall for the Japanese brands. But why did they still make mechanical watches? Today I long for the mechanic watch. I feel that having to replace a battery is a nuisance, but having seen the process of cleaning and reassembling a mechanical watch makes me optimistic about the technological progress in watch making depends on the humans that oil the cogs of the machines!

[@upup329]

Great job, well done :-)

[@Antonioivse]

Hello from Russia. I like your work. Always watch your video in bed. And always fall asleep during watching.

[@n2n8sda]

Great video as always... Have you ever shown how the detect sensor works on the demag machine before?

[@walther9161]

Very nice once again with the history!! The voices aren’t an issue as long as different personalities don’t emerge… just saying. 😊 all good fun Sir!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@ydnartitcomb1]

Thank you

[@SvenForbes]

Großartig! Ich kenne keinen anderen Uhrmacher der mit so viel Liebe Uhren restauriert.🥰😋❤👏👍

[@VintageWatchServices]

😊👍

[@ChicaLocaGB]

This is the cheekiest watch repair channel I have come across, makes me laugh.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Yeah, I don't take myself too seriously :) I take my work very seriously, but apart from that I simply enjoy being an idiot 😁

[@martinpark8371]

been liking the videos man!

[@gregcapella5941]

Another GREAT VIDEO,,,,THANKS

[@troynasello2085]

Please show us crown gasket changes!

[@nukvar23]

A couple of questions please: 1. Which stakes are you using on the horia to push the rotor bearing? 2. What kind of an improvised solution are you suggesting to deal with the issue thar automatic mainsprings get tangled up inside the winder? Using an “arbor” which is one number smaller than the corresponding “barrel”? It happens to me too often :/ Thank you

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello, thanks for watching! For the rotor bearing I use self-centering pushers if I have the right size, and a simple anvil with a center hole. And yes, for the mainspring winders, I indeed use a one size smaller arbor. You can also turn a brass disc with a center hole in it that you could place inside the winder barrel if you want a more permanent solution. And there are of course specialized combination for the 2824 and 2892.

[@nukvar23]

@@VintageWatchServices thank you for the prompt answer! I sometimes get the feeling as if those winders were not design to work with automatic mainsprings, especially since the whole design is incompatible with the sliding bridle

[@nigelbarker8726]

You can always tell a Norwegian. But you can't tell him much.

[@supergamerbros.1718]

Great story

[@larrykelly2838]

It is a nice watch.

[@boydsargeant7496]

Thanks Stian, great vid. Lovely condition. Great to see you fixing a few issues. Can you tell us what the tools are called, was it Horia tool and staking set? So glad we cleared that up on the size of Norwegian balls!🤣 More voices to come? Any tips on using a smoothing broach, so it doesn’t get stuck?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Boyd, it was indeed the Horia tool and a staking set. And the smoothing broach gets stuck quite easily! Keep rotating it as you move it in and out and you should be okay.

[@boydsargeant7496]

@@VintageWatchServices thanks Stian. I have a small staking set. The stakes are diameter 4.7mm and the anvils (stubby stakes) or what ever they are called are dia 4.1mm. Do you know where I can by more singularly? I cannot see them at Cousins.

[@VintageWatchServices]

@@boydsargeant7496 I wouldn't really know, I'm afraid. Does your staking set not have a rotating table where you can place different sized anvils? Otherwise the best thing to do might be to google the name of your set and see what you find...

[@boydsargeant7496]

@@VintageWatchServices thanks Stian. Yes, but 4.1mm is the biggest. Looks like about 3.1mm is the next size down. Also no name, it’s very vintage with 6 anvils and 50 stakes. Thanks, I keep my eyes on ebay😉

[@larrykassebaum1926]

On a beat rate of 36000; what is the typical reserve time:) always excellent videos.👍👍

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Larry, the reserve time shouldn't differ much from other watches, I'd say about 42 hours

[@larrykassebaum1926]

@@VintageWatchServices Thank you!

[@ericashmusic8889]

I have a very similar watch to this one, with actual KON-TIKI on the dial, but the case design slightly different..I put it away in a draw (1981 ) & over time I forgot where I put it,..I also had quite a few other watches at the time & was not fussed, yet now it is still brand new & unused. It must have a service,& although I am a novice tinkerer on scrap watches, I have no intention of touching it . Any ideas welcome.

[@brianpercival1829]

I have a Rado Diastar from 1979 and case is the same with semi covered crown recessed. Beat is 28,800 +6 secs

[@vincenzoromanello9739]

Hi there I would like to see you working on it Cartier watch please thank you

[@unexposed7]

hi, im a regular watcher.. thanks for your videos. I am seeking to repair my vintage Favre Leuba, daymatic 36000 bph. May i ask if i can I send it to you for service and crown replacement?

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello, can you send me some photos of the watch from all angles to [e-mail], then I can let you know if I can help you

[@JkDSnake]

What tweezers are you using? I currently use a straight pair and my sausage fingers get in the way of my vision. I like your use of the curved tweezers and I think they may be the right choice for me. Thank you.

[@VintageWatchServices]

I get my tweezers from Regine Horology, you can mail [e-mail] for them. Mine are the number 7A-BRA www.regine.ch/products.php?subid=63&lang=E&Tq=R&Taf=E&Tm=BRA&Tbase=46&twpg=1

[@kevgermany]

Hmmm. Those 5 balls not Norwegian.... Too big, I guess. And did Thor Heyerdahl really set off from South Africa as you said? Nice watch. I love the way the second hand moves.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Kev, did I say South Africa? It was of course South America :)

[@kevgermany]

@@VintageWatchServices just winding you up, but you did, yes.

[@kevgermany]

Just after 16:09

[@alisaeed280]

جيد جدآ كرس. شكرا على هذا الفيديو❤

[@johncunningham5435]

What type of grease do you use on the pallet fork jewels?, considering the high beat ratio.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello John, for high beat watches I use Moebius 9415

[@gromit1996]

Mjöllnir has nothing on that little brass hammer. I thought that as long as you weren't making a voice which could be construed as being your wife's you would be fine. I guessed wrong. Also, do I have to buy another watch to keep your son in football shoes? :) Lovely movement and that dial really pops!

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

What is a good service interval for a 36k movement worn daily? Specifically the El Primero. Good video; I liked the increased humor, by the way.

[@dbaider9467]

I would like to know this too!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Jacob, five years is a good rule of thumb. This is preventative service and if you stick to it your El Primero should last a century :)

[@LCMNUNES1962]

ETA 2824 MACHINE ETERNAMATIC EXCELENT 👍👍 🇧🇷

[@lego4f]

How come the ampliude gets higher with the automatic module in place? How does this work, mechanically?

[@VintageWatchServices]

In an automatic watch, the mainspring has a bridle at the end which slips along the walls of the mainspring barrel when the mainspring is wound. When you wind the watch with the crown, the difference in torque applied to the mainspring changes very fast, making the mainspring slip faster. The rotor typically needs some 100-150 turns to turn the barrel once, so the increments building up the torque are much smaller, allowing for the mainspring to slip a bit later. It's kind of like being on slippery ice; sudden moves might make you slip, while gentle, slow moves will allow you to walk. Note that the added amplitude from an automatic module will not be dramatic, at most probably 10 degrees or so.

[@lego4f]

@@VintageWatchServices This fine art form never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for your explanation Stian!

[@ronl7131]

Decent timepiece

[@wndr0412]

Stian. I agree those balls aren't Norwegian. 😁

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁👍

[@harilaospantazis2409]

Any chance about doing some videos about venus watches?just curious!

[@VintageWatchServices]

Thanks for watching! Do you mean Venus branded watches?, I've d'une a few watches with Venus movements but Venus branded watches are not that easy to find.

[@harilaospantazis2409]

@@VintageWatchServices in greece they used to be quite famous back in the day!I've seen your video with the chronograph ect..It's just that i got an automatic venus in my hands which is also rare and wanted to find information and stuff about the brand because there's really nothing out there!!That's why im also a big fan of your work..always sharing some light on those brands!

[@leonjohansson6542]

Why is there no lubrication on the gear teeth? That's a high wear, metal on metal interface.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Hello Leon, thanks for watching! Teeth in watch gear trains are cut with cycloidal curves, meaning the surfaces roll on each other and do not rub. Thus there is no need for lubrication and you never see wear on the teeth themselves.

[@rogers531]

The calibre is 1522. ?? I have one of these with calibre of 1522D. Must look for it's year. I thought mine was 1952. Not sure.

[@PeterVendelbo]

Hei, @: 29:35, er det 36.000 hver minut? :-)

[@VintageWatchServices]

Nei, det er nok hver time, ja 😉

[@ericdouglas9804]

I really enjoyed the video; I just wish at 62, I could remember the history behind a brand you give, but thanks to technology, I can go back and retrieve the info. Tell your wife that it’s okay for men to do odd voices: I try to copy old cartoon voices to temper the cussing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SubTroppo]

Nice dial, but I never liked that very '70s heavy case style which I remember from my watch-shopping in Saudi Arabia in 1977. Faceted crystals were not, and still are not for me. ps I've spent far too much of my life looking in watch-shop windows.

[@jetsonIFY]

You sly fox. At 2:07 not even the timegrapher heard that one coming!

[@VintageWatchServices]

🤣 Thought I'd sneak in a little under my breath joke there

[@Tubluer]

So, if you are a watchmaker who does leprechaun voices, does that make you a leprechron?

[@VintageWatchServices]

🤣

[@moatasemelekhtiar3956]

Hi, am I first?

[@mM30040]

my son also football player but his keeper so am buying boots +gloves evry 5 month🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂

[@greggc.touftree5936]

I never heard anyone pronounce AUEYARBLEGARBLEETINZECHAPPAH, or whatever the acronym is for the other half of the swatch group, as one word. Yeesh.

[@advocatusdiaboli1588]

Take a shot for everytime he says "ahh" or "uhh". You're dead after 5 min.

[@donnyboon2896]

Not a professional speaker. His first language is Norwegian. And to top it off Switzerland is a triangle between Italy, France, and Germany. They speak all 3. Your point is taken, he could do better, but could you?

[@advocatusdiaboli1588]

Yeah, I´m sure he´s a great guy and a thorough and selfless lover. Production value is over the Top. There is just this one thing I thought I mention.

[@a1nelson]

Maybe it’s my own Norwegian heritage, but I didn’t notice those things at all until you mentioned them. Maybe you’re just joking around. Ok, fine. Myself, I’m here for the watchmaker content - and that’s always top-notch on this channel. I like the friendly, personal delivery as well. Wouldn’t change a thing.

[@VintageWatchServices]

I must say I'm very flattered if that's the main gripe you have with these videos 😁

[@advocatusdiaboli1588]

@@VintageWatchServices It´s not my main gripe, it´s the only one. Everything else is top notch and I have nothing but the highest Appreciation for everything you do. I know I´m complaining at the highest level but I thought I mention it anyway. Enough said! Happy to see you in your next Video. Cheers!

[@steveblake8766]

391 Thumbs uP

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

hei hei.

[@VintageWatchServices]

Heisann

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

Peru er i sør Amerika ikkje sør Afrika... lol

[@VintageWatchServices]

Sa jeg sør Afrika? 😬

[@jasonsummit1885]

This is probably the most plain movement I've ever seen as most have pearling or guilloche patterning on them.

[@tonymonastiere8510]

There are times when I'm very glad computers have a MUTE BUTTON!!!

[@VintageWatchServices]

😁

[@vlady8me]

Don't ya mind people grinnin in yo face.

[@eddiesmurfy]

The voices are weird.