What does the Bible say about divorce and remarriage?

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@danieldefonce
@danieldefonce 5 жыл бұрын
A wife must not leave her husband. But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife. ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10-11‬ ‭NLT
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel- good verse but I'd stay away from the Nlt and Niv. Not accurate translations as they both WRONGLY translate adultery instead of Fornication in Matthew 19:9 and 5:32 which has led to the skyrocket in divorce in the "Church" today since the 60's. Stick with the King James version or other Bibles printed pre 1900
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 evidently this was the result of Erasmus and his translation, which was said to have been promoted, by Luther....
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbuckley759 Good point. I reccomend the book "Except for Fornication" by Dan Jennings. (You can also watch a 20 minute KZbin video synopsis of the book by Jennings himself) He confirms your point while explaining how almost all early church fathers/leaders read the Word as Fornication, NOT adultery as correctly translated from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek from AD 70 right up to the 1500's.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 thank you.....will check it out....
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@Serhiy Semeniuk if that were true we would be....married, to everyone that we had sex with....
@Lillian5336
@Lillian5336 4 жыл бұрын
It’s very encouraging to see the comments here knowing how many Christians are NOT willing to compromise the truth even when pastors are saying it’s ok.
@nikkogorne7202
@nikkogorne7202 3 жыл бұрын
It is considered the last resort... like mercy killing on some instances...
@exposefrauds3929
@exposefrauds3929 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, many are not only allowing it, but in some cases encouraging it, and practicing it! It's as if they put their own desires ahead of the one they claim to represent, then have to cover their guilt by claiming it's ok for their congregants! Misery loves company, birds of a feather, sinner trying to hide among sinners...
@user-pd9ju5dk5s
@user-pd9ju5dk5s 3 жыл бұрын
The Bible gives two clear grounds for divorce: (1) sexual immorality (Matthew 5:32; 19:9) and (2) abandonment by an unbeliever (1 Corinthians 7:15). Read your book
@Urbankungfu61
@Urbankungfu61 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s You are wrong. God did not create divorce, this was created by Moses because of the hardness of man’s heart. The Bible clearly says that God HATES divorce so why do you think God would allow several options for something He hates and never meant for us?
@user-pd9ju5dk5s
@user-pd9ju5dk5s 3 жыл бұрын
@@Urbankungfu61 Read the book
@steenad9238
@steenad9238 Жыл бұрын
We need to stop adding our own thoughts, there are reasons to seperate, but never to remarry, period. It makes you an adulterer and adultress.
@omegatafkal
@omegatafkal Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@idallas4964
@idallas4964 2 ай бұрын
It's clear in Romans 7:3 (KJV) "So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."
@marcellacrier4485
@marcellacrier4485 4 жыл бұрын
This topic is so confusing and hurtful in many ways. I’m not going to go into too many details, but I’ve always felt like I was meant to be a wife. I wasn’t near a believer ( meaning lack of knowledge of a relationship with Jesus) when I married terribly young. It ended due to abuse and infidelity. Now that I have a relationship with Jesus, I’ve come to what it means to be married until death parts you. It is a hard pill to swallow especially marrying out of ignorance. I’ve cried so much about this. People say be strong, but most are happily married believers who made it. Many don’t understand being young with no prospects of being able to remarry. Then mixed messages on what’s allowed. It css as n drive you crazy.
@racyt5683
@racyt5683 4 жыл бұрын
@Marcella Crier Please do not fall for the lies that are being told one scripture at a time. The Bible was never meant to be chipped apart and put back together like a jigsaw puzzle...one quote from here, one quote from there, one quote from this apostle, etc., it was meant to be read as a whole. This is why there are mixed messages and guess who is providing those mixed messages? Yep, you are right. Satan wants people to doubt themselves, live in fear and listen to false "believers" who quote the Bible. These "believers" are deceivers when they are trying to convince you that you are a sinner and should be ashamed and fearful. God does not want you to live in fear. 1 Corinthians 15 "But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace." Read the entire chapter and in it you will see that your marriage was not a gift from God and you should find another husband and live in peace. You CAN REMARRY - it is not a sin.
@MelH089
@MelH089 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, we have a forgiving GOD. My situation is very similar to yours and I was married to an unbeliever. He had a relationship with another woman and made her pregnant so in Gods eyes that’s broke the bond. We are now divorced. I can’t see how God wouldn’t want me to remain unmarried when the fault is with my ex husband... it doesn’t make any sense. I’ve taken this to God. Asked for repentance on that marriage and I feel that I can get remarried to a Christian, I’m waiting on God for that and really believe it will happen. A lot of people on here have opinions, they haven’t been married or even divorced. So it’s a topic they can’t fully be 100% making accusations at when they have never gone through it. We all have a personal relationship with the LORD. Pray and fast on the matter. GOD forgives, we are a new creation. Hope this helps you settle your mind. There’s a lot of negative comments and hate on here. It’s a very sensitive topic and some of my “ brothers and sisters” make you feel ashamed and not worthy because of divorce. God bless.
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 3 жыл бұрын
@@racyt5683 It is wicked and evil to remarry whilst the first spouse is alive. Take not notice of such a heresy.... Romans 7:3 "The woman that hath a husband is bound by law to the husband while he liveth; but if the husband die, she is discharged from the law of the husband. 3 So then if, while the husband liveth, she be joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if the husband die, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be joined to another man. Romans 7:2-3 (ASV)
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 3 жыл бұрын
It is wicked and evil to remarry whilst the first spouse is alive. Take no notice of such a heresy....encouraging you to remarry and fall into grievous sin. Romans 7:3 "The woman that hath a husband is bound by law to the husband while he liveth; but if the husband die, she is discharged from the law of the husband. 3 So then if, while the husband liveth, she be joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if the husband die, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be joined to another man. Romans 7:2-3 (ASV)
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
Pray. The LORD knows your heart and situation. Trust Him to lead and guide you. God bless 🙏
@thomaskurek3524
@thomaskurek3524 5 жыл бұрын
I will not say the last words what you say that Jesus said it is okay to get divorce and remarry, those are your words, let's be honest Bible is very clear about widows that can remarry but you will never find verse that is clear that you can remarry after you get divorce. I stick to the second opinion the divorced person must stay alone or reconcile to the spouse.
@herangeldayanan4948
@herangeldayanan4948 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas I agree to you brother!
@kcirtapecreip4155
@kcirtapecreip4155 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's an opinion, it's the word of God. Anyone who says otherwise is in conflict not with man but with God himself.
@nothereanymore6463
@nothereanymore6463 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@kcirtapecreip4155
@kcirtapecreip4155 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtfike maybe you aught to actually READ the bible before you talk about it. Your comment screams ignorance of the scriptures. Try reading the bible a couple more times..... none of what you said has any basis in reality.... Maybe you are just reading a bad bible and I being too harsh??? Get A kjv and check your verses.
@kaluakoala
@kaluakoala 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff where does Jesus say there's only one commandment? Here he mentions at least two "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." He also says "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" (plural)
@renatodemorais
@renatodemorais 2 жыл бұрын
Romans 7 seems pretty clear and to the point, and the funny thing is that he didn't "forget" to mention it. The big problem for these seminarians today is trying to understand God through the lens of modern culture.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
yes !!!
@Af99af
@Af99af 7 ай бұрын
Yea Roman’s 7 seems clear but the ones in Matthew brings up a debate. But hey it’s still apart of the Bible
@gibranlewis7300
@gibranlewis7300 25 күн бұрын
@@Af99af Mark & Luke Relay DOUBLE WITNESS Testimony, & AGREEMENT Of TWO That Marriage Is Permanent. That Has GREAT Weight, especially considering the context of the "clause" within Matthew, with it's somewhat ambiguous wording ( & the Double Witness Absolute, Is More Potent BY FAR Than the ambiguous & context dependent outlier ). It's ( the "clause" in Matthew ) NOT vague "s3xual immorality", it's porneia/fornication, which in the case of the Matthew comment refers to premarital harlotry, related to the Deuteronomy clause "I found her not a virgin" ( & virgin was specific to females, the term betulah, in that time, referred only to females, & relates also to the betulim, the evidence of virginity, which was literally the b!oodied cloth taken from under the woman after the breaking of her hymen as proof of her virginity. Mark ( acknowledged by most Biblical Historians & Scholars as the Eldest of The Four Gospels ) & Luke Testify To The ABSOLUTE Permanence Of Marriage ( for life ). There are NO "exemptions" for consummated Marriage with a virgin Bride. Matthew was most specifically writing to a Jewish audience, and he wrote with the Jewish betrothal system in mind. We know that Matthew's use of fornication ISN'T a catch all for all "s3xual immorality" to include Adultery, because the only other place where Matthew uses the word is in a list of Sins, where Yeshua ( Jesus ) Christ The Messiah DIFFERENTIATES Adultery and fornication as separate Sins, Separated as murd3r and theft were Separate. Matthew's is also the only Gospel GIVES the EXAMPLE of an intent for a betrothal period divorce, based on what Joseph THOUGHT was fornication: Joseph thought Mary ( Maryam ) had committed fornication ( premarital harlotry ) PRIOR to consummating Marriage with Joseph & becoming One flesh With him. Joseph, as per the Deuteronomy precept, thought that he had "found her not a virgin", until The Angel Gabriel Corrected him. Porneia, as used by Matthew, is NOT denying the Absolute Permanence ( for life ) Marriage Declaration Of Yeshua ( Jesus ) Christ The Messiah Declared Within Mark & Luke: RATHER, Matthew, addressing Jews & having already, at the onset of his Gospel, given a model of the Jewish understanding of premarital harlotry ( the traditional meaning of porneia is harlotry, specifically ) as what Joseph mistakenly thought Mary ( Maryam ) had committed & that Joseph had intended to divorce her for ( within the Jewish betrothal system, a bride who had NOT yet Joined with the groom underwent a divorce process much as would have been the case even if they had physically Joined ), informs the Jewish audience that if a man discovers that his presumptively virgin Bride has already been deflowered by other men ( possibly joined to another man, if Vows were traded ) then he doesn't have to go through with the Marriage & the becoming One flesh with her. Because that is such a fringe clause, & because it only applied to a betrothal period ( one not entirely unique to the Jews, but certainly not global, and generally less intricate in other cultures ) Mark & Luke don't include it at all, as it would only have confused people. A consummated Marriage, ESECIALLY between a man & a virgin bride ( or a bride whom that Husband Deflowered ) is Permanent. Mind, Matthew & Luke Relay That any man who "marries" a woman whose Husband has "divorced" her, is committing Adultery: there is NO "unless the Husband has begun having s3x with other woman, or has himself "remarried". Indeed, Luke Relays UNEQUIVOCALLY That, even if a man has "divorced" his Wife & Adulterously "remarried" another, it is Adultery to "marry" the "divorced" Wife. Even Adultery CANNOT end a Marriage. And for all those who love to howl that "Yahweh "divorced" Israel", Yahweh took NO other nation as a substitute bride during Israel's Banishment: He RECONCILED With ADULTEROUS Israel, First Sending Prophet Hosea To Reconcile With his Adulterous Wife as a Prophetic Symbol & Model: & AFTER That Reconciliation, Yahweh Sent Angel Gabriel To a Priest in His Jerusalem Temple To Announce John coming With the Power of Elijah, & THEN Yahweh Brought His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON Through the Womb of Israel ( Through the literal womb of a virgin daughter of Israel ), & Gave Him To the world As Bridegroom, so that ALL the world could then Marry Into Greater Israel, Through Union With Yeshua ( Jesus ) Christ The Son, The Messiah.
@michealdarden6518
@michealdarden6518 17 күн бұрын
Great comment.
@JavierViramontesR
@JavierViramontesR 2 жыл бұрын
Literally Jesus, “Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. I say to you, whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery.”
@Codeman113
@Codeman113 2 жыл бұрын
Ya it’s funny because you actually read Bible never teaches death ends marriage ether which is why Jesus said not to remarry
@michaelmcevoy9278
@michaelmcevoy9278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Codeman113 What do you think Paul meant here? A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. (1 Corinthians 7:39, ESV)
@Codeman113
@Codeman113 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcevoy9278 you have to understand Paul and mosses made laws for that stuff and isn’t in contact now, so he was talking about it under law of Moses
@renevanderwesthuizen1897
@renevanderwesthuizen1897 2 жыл бұрын
I have wondered many times if Jesus meant "whoever divorces AND then gets married again after that, at some point in time" or whether he meant "whoever gets divorced to remarry someone else/ or to replace current spouse" because back in exodus, from my understanding, the men were divorcing their wives many times with the intention to find a different one or to replace the current one?
@ChrisPyle
@ChrisPyle 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine Jesus requiring a wife to stay with someone that is putting her life in danger. Or perhaps the kids lives in danger. Wouldn’t this be applied common sense based on principles?
@Maeroa145
@Maeroa145 4 жыл бұрын
"Till Death Do Us Part" is a vow before God not only to your wife or husband
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
Most would agree that the forsaking all others was a clause that if broken would be cause for divorce... As Jesus gave in Matthew 19:9
@malamuteaerospace6333
@malamuteaerospace6333 3 жыл бұрын
YES NOT DIVORCE DO US PART.... PERIOD.....
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@maunder01 where do the scriptures refer to what breaks one-flesh other than death?
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 an unbeliever or someone who turns away from Christ is DEAD also....
@fonelo2215
@fonelo2215 3 жыл бұрын
Where does those vows during marriage comes from? Bible or where? Making of vows when people get married is it biblical?
@samgourzis9300
@samgourzis9300 5 жыл бұрын
Divorce is acceptable for unrepented adultery. Every time remarriage is mentioned the word Adultery is right next to it. Remarriage is Adultery. I've been divorced by my wife for 12yrs now. I've remained single ever since. Glory be to God.
@JesusSaviour4ALL
@JesusSaviour4ALL 5 жыл бұрын
Well done brother. I was just thinking yesterday my mum n dad divorced 30 years ago, he remarried 10 years ago but his new wife was still married at the time but separated now her ex husband has committed suicide. They are both 'Christians' but sadly a death of a lonely unsaved man has resulted in this new union! Are they both in sin? Should they divorce now or remain married either way is not pleasing to God?
@samgourzis9300
@samgourzis9300 5 жыл бұрын
@@JesusSaviour4ALL Short answer, if either one has no living spouse, they can remain married. But if either one of them has a living spouse, they are in Adultery.
@mbulelogumede6903
@mbulelogumede6903 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, may God bless you for being faithful to His Word.
@1689solas
@1689solas 5 жыл бұрын
I'll trust the New Testament scholar on this one. Thanks though.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@@1689solas you would do better to obey Christ's commands and teachings.
@Mike-ff7ib
@Mike-ff7ib 2 жыл бұрын
I left my wife because she was a disrespectful, degrading, & non loving person, and I also belive she was involved with another woman. During our divorce I discovered in addition to those things, she used my identity and sold 100% my fathers inheritance that he gave to me. That was his last dying will that she took from him. My ex also turned my kids against me. I asked the lord if he can fix my marriage or find me a loving submissive wife that respectsme as a person and as a husband. In the end, her hidden secrets were revealed, and I completed the divorce process. I'm now remarried to a wonderful woman. I feared I did the wrong thing by not knowing the word of God at that time and I hope he will forgive me. I will never reject Jesus as my savior but I hope that I can be forgiven.
@Walkinfaithnow
@Walkinfaithnow 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mike, God bless you. I am no one to you, but this moved me. We must remember that God forgives all, we are cleansed by the blood of Christ! The more I learn about God, the more I learn about life. God intended marriage to be with people who are equally yoked. I sense your faith and know you are a God fearing man, who honors the covenant of marriage. However from your ex wife, she didn’t reflect the character of God. If she had Jesus in her heart than she would deter from sinning with intent to harm others. We let our feelings make choices and it ends with heartbreak. We make mistakes, we learn and we change through Christ. I’m happy you’re honoring God by finding a woman of God now. God bless you, Jesus forgives you, God loves you.
@ninagarcia5874
@ninagarcia5874 2 жыл бұрын
We are saved through faith in Christ alone not in works lest any man should boast.
@Mike-ff7ib
@Mike-ff7ib 2 жыл бұрын
@@Walkinfaithnow thank you so much for those words. My wife and I are true partners and we share the importance of God's word equally. We are both growing stronger with the understanding God's word. I know I'm not worthy of gods grace which is why I'm so very greatful.
@tsainaramandaniarivo8692
@tsainaramandaniarivo8692 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iyaanaah amen
@jamesbailey8362
@jamesbailey8362 Жыл бұрын
Hey will not reject you don't listen to people interpretation there's only one unforgivable sin
@gracel316
@gracel316 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a children's teacher at my church, let me tell you, people really underestimate what divorce and remarriage do to children, especially when they are condoned by the church. I've seen children become unbelievers because some other church accepted their father's or mother's remarriage. The thing is that you have a full time responsibility to your child, which you cannot possibly fulfill if you remarry and have a second family.
@noname-jh3bd
@noname-jh3bd 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I went through a divorce back in 2000, and now my ex-husband is on his third marriage, and he has two children, one with each woman... I am not judging, it's just a fact. And a very sad one indeed
@michellebell9931
@michellebell9931 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the Home. Protect yourself and your Children.
@Makingmoney4u
@Makingmoney4u 2 жыл бұрын
My parents separated and lived separately and I was very happy about it.. Some Things that go on in marriage are extremely unhealthy for kids. Of course after doing all that can be done to save the marriage then one could divorce. However running to get remarried quickly shows lack of understanding of marriage. Marriage isn't a joke
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, Grace... very very sad what happens to children.. The one abandonded needs to pray for reconciliation until the end...only death can separated the deep one flesh tie.
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, are you sure it's the divorce and marriage that takes a toll on these children and not the toxicity inside the household that led to the divorce in the first place? If someone divorces some abusive scoundrel, drunkard or some other worthless SOB and remarries some time later, where is the sin in that?
@David24025
@David24025 4 жыл бұрын
Bible clearly says divorcing a wife/husband and marrying another woman/man whilst their partners are alive is a sin
@edilalewis654
@edilalewis654 3 жыл бұрын
100% right
@lilyarios1026
@lilyarios1026 3 жыл бұрын
But what of the partner that you're with is abusive?
@standbackstandby200
@standbackstandby200 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilyarios1026 Bible permits you to separate ONLY
@christopherskiles3870
@christopherskiles3870 3 жыл бұрын
Then tell me why Jesus used the word "except"...there is a legitimate reason for divorce...only one but it is an exception.
@ThePreachingOfHisWord
@ThePreachingOfHisWord 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in this situation, and the two people who are adulterers have gotten married and our living in sin when thinking God wedded them in holy matrimony, which is a lie straight from the pit of hell. They're conjoined by Satan. Till death do you part! Marriage is a beautiful thing, it is a union of two sinners coming together in Holy matrimony before God, laying hold of Christ! A marriage done in the way I described my ex and her adulterous partner is not of God. Marriage is beautiful because the two people who are conjoined in union with Christ goes a long way. I pray to meet a girl who is equally yoked with me, in that Christ is her all in all. God bless you all.
@Razaiel
@Razaiel 3 жыл бұрын
"And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.” Matthew 19:9
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Mark 10:10-11: 10And in the house the disciples again began questioning Him about this. 11And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”
@Razaiel
@Razaiel 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 Great, so which is it? Because they're mutually exclusive.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@Razaiel fornication is what people commit against their own body. Whether it is sex with a partner, or masturbation, it is a sin against the body of those who commit it. Adultery is a sin against the one you become one-flesh with, in a covenant of marriage. This is the proper context of these terms. Those who falsely interpret fornication, as being the same as adultery, cause conflict in Matthew's gospel, by implying that unless adultery is comitted (by the wife during the marriage) then adultery is being caused through a divorce and subsequent remarriage. This hits a wall, when it comes to Matthew 5:31-32, because it would still show that a married wife (if she were not a betrothed wife as shown in Matthew 5:31-32, Matthew 19:9, and also in the case of Mary in Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7) is caused to commit adultery after receiving a certificate of divorce , except it be for (not including) adultery having been comitted previously. So either way, these scriptures still show a wife (during the time of Christ), unless being found guitly of having previously comitted fornication before or during betrothal (Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24,), or found comitting adultery during marriage (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22), is being caused to commit adultery ("defiled" according to Deuteronomy 24:4) with whosoever marries her after she is divorced. During the time of Christ, and John the Baptist, it was impossible to give a wife caught in adultery a certificate of divorce, in order to become another man's wife, according to the law in Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10. The emphasis should be on the true definition of fornication (sexual immorality/whoredom), as seen in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, by showing you the context of how it is used in Genesis 38:6-26. Genesis 38:6-26: 6And Judah takes a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name [is] Tamar; 7and Er, Judah’s firstborn, is evil in the eyes of YHWH, and YHWH puts him to death. 8And Judah says to Onan, “Go in to the wife of your brother, and marry her, and raise up seed to your brother”; 9and Onan knows that the seed is not [reckoned] his; and it has come to pass, if he has gone in to his brother’s wife, that he has destroyed [it] to the earth, so as not to give seed to his brother; 10and that which he has done is evil in the eyes of YHWH, and He puts him also to death. 11And Judah says to his daughter-in-law Tamar, “Abide [as] a widow at your father’s house, until my son Shelah grows up”; for he said, “Lest he die-even he-like his brothers”; and Tamar goes and dwells at her father’s house. 12And the days are multiplied, and the daughter of Shuah, Judah’s wife, dies; and Judah is comforted, and goes up to his sheep-shearers, he and Hirah his friend the Adullamite, to Timnath. 13And it is declared to Tamar, saying, “Behold, your husband’s father is going up to Timnath to shear his flock”; 14and she turns aside the garments of her widowhood from off her, and covers herself with a veil, and wraps herself up, and sits in the opening of Enayim, which [is] by the way to Timnath, for she has seen that Shelah has grown up, and she has not been given to him for a wife. 15And Judah sees her, and reckons her for a harlot, for she has covered her face, 16and he turns aside to her by the way and says, “Please come, let me come in to you,” for he has not known that she [is] his daughter-in-law; and she says, “What do you give to me, that you may come in to me?” 17And he says, “I send a kid of the goats from the flock.” And she says, “Do you give a pledge until you send [it]?” 18And he says, “What [is] the pledge that I give to you?” And she says, “Your seal, and your ribbon, and your staff which [is] in your hand”; and he gives to her, and goes in to her, and she conceives to him; 19and she rises, and goes, and turns aside her veil from off her, and puts on the garments of her widowhood. 20And Judah sends the kid of the goats by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive the pledge from the hand of the woman, and he has not found her. 21And he asks the men of her place, saying, “Where [is] the separated one-she in Enayim, by the way?” And they say, “There has not been in this [place] a separated one.” 22And he turns back to Judah and says, “I have not found her; and the men of the place also have said, There has not been in this [place] a separated one,” 23and Judah says, “Let her take to herself, lest we become despised; behold, I sent this kid, and you have not found her.” 24And it comes to pass about three months [after], that it is declared to Judah, saying, “Your daughter-in-law Tamar has committed fornication; and also, behold, she has conceived by fornication”: and Judah says, “Bring her out-and she is burned.” 25She is brought out, and she has sent to her husband’s father, saying, “To a man whose these [are], I [am] pregnant”; and she says, “Please discern whose these [are]-the seal, and the ribbons, and the staff.” 26And Judah discerns and says, “She has been more righteous than I, because that I did not give her to my son Shelah”; and he has not added to know her again. The context of the scriptures above show that Tamar and Judah are both widowed, and Tamar is the widow of Judah's sons Er and Onan, and is living with her father-in-law Judah. Neither of them are married, and Tamar is not betrothed to Judah's youngest son Shelah. She was not a prostitute, but only pretended to be in order to trick her father-in-law, Judah, into fornication in order to force him into marriage. These scriptures in Genesis 38, along with what is written in the law about a betrothed virgin being unfaithful before her wedding night, in Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24, you see what Jesus meant by "except it be for fornication" in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, and the clear differences between fornication and adultery in the context of the scriptures.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, use the Correct translation. "And I say unto you; whosoever putteth away his wife, except it be for FORNICATION, and marrieth another committeth adultery " Matthew 19:9 -KJV. Secondly, Fornication is referring to the Jewish betrothal period before marriage. Matthew 1:18-25 explains. John 8:41 confirms. Fornication can only be committed by single unmarried people. Modern, false translations change the Word from fornication to "sexual immorality, sexual misconduct, marital unfaithfulness, etc" thus distorting the Truth of God's Word on marriage and the doctrine of the marital Covenant being for life (Romans 7:1-3, 1 Corinthians 7:39)
@aprilehmke702
@aprilehmke702 3 жыл бұрын
Notice he already says his wife in that scripture. They are already married
@munoken
@munoken 4 жыл бұрын
When some dude says I think about something the Bible says, stop listening. The Bible is clear and if you ask a Jewish person about the betrothal period they will tell you as Jesus said in Matthew. Marriage is for life, nothing can break the covenant and only death of one of the spouses ends it. Do not be deceived.
@stephendevore
@stephendevore 4 жыл бұрын
@Can Ya Diggit? "Wives cannot divorce husbands EVER." WHERE does it EXPLICITLY say that?
@FreedomsNurse
@FreedomsNurse 4 жыл бұрын
Don't go to people who reject Jesus and ask for their understanding of the Bible.
@FreedomsNurse
@FreedomsNurse 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephendevore Romans 7:1-3
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@A P but from the beginning, that was not so....eh....
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephendevore nothing is ....explicitly....stated.....there in lies the dilemma.....
@zalleywaalley8227
@zalleywaalley8227 Жыл бұрын
this guy is just talking in circles. He’s trying to make something OK but just simply flat out is not OK. If you are divorced you’re on your own with Christ that is it PERIOD. This guy is just blowing smoke.
@garydunn3037
@garydunn3037 4 жыл бұрын
At Mark 10 v 9 it tells us "What God has yolked together, let no man put apart" Many people in this world today have a casual attitude towards marriage. When their relationship becomes strained, most just give up and walk out on their marriage mate. That, however is not the Christian way. (1 Corinthians 7 v 27) Breaking one's marriage vow is equivalent to to lying to God, and God hates liars! (Leviticus 19 v 12, Proverbs 6 v 16--19) God also hates a treacherous divorce. (Malachai 2 v 13--16) Jesus taught that the only scriptural ground for dissolving a marriage vow, is when an innocent mate chooses not to forgive an adulterous partner. (Matthew 19 v 9, Hebrews 13 v 4) What, then, about separation? The bible is clear on this too. (1 Corinthians 7 v 10 and 11) Although the bible does not set out grounds for marital separation, some married Christians however, have viewed certain situations as a reason for separation, such as the extreme endangerment to one's life or spirituality by an abusive spouse.
@garygooden5752
@garygooden5752 3 жыл бұрын
The bible actually says that a man should never be married
@garydunn3037
@garydunn3037 3 жыл бұрын
@@garygooden5752 Then why in the book of Genesis, God said that a man should leave his father and mother, and he, and his wife should stick together and become as one.
@garygooden5752
@garygooden5752 3 жыл бұрын
Because he's not looking out for our best interests
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, people give up too soon on their marriage... the Lord keeps loving and forgiving the unfaithful one... we need to forgive 70 x 7. We love and forgive our spouse as the Lord keeps forgiving us. Keep praying and believing for restoration until death or reconciliation.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
@@garygooden5752 Actually that a man would be better off not married but it is not forbidden.
@michellebell9931
@michellebell9931 2 жыл бұрын
Don't Stay in an abusive relationship. If you or your children are abused. Out you most Go.
@Revelation21-4-
@Revelation21-4- 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nathanielbarbeau4821
@nathanielbarbeau4821 3 жыл бұрын
My wife cheated on me. After a few years she decided she wanted a divorce. I could not stop her. I tried. Her Free Will. I am now remarried and God has given me back everything I lost and more. She is not allowed to remarry. I am. Mathew 19:9 “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19:9‬ ‭ESV‬‬
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus makes a clear statement that adultery is the result of a divorce, and subsequent remarriage, not the cause. In fact, Jesus never lists any specific cause for divorce, and neither does the Old Testament, but only that "It hath been said" that in order to divorce let him give her a certificate of divorce (which the Pharisees already stated was for any reason), and then Jesus states the phrase: "except it be for fornication", which clearly means it was an exception to giving a certificate of divorce for any cause. The clear reason that you could not issue a certificate of divorce for her to become another man's wife is seen in Deuteronomy 22:13-21;23-24. A betrothed wife caught having committed fornication was stoned to death, not given a certificate of divorce in accordance with Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage). Understand the context and meaning of Jesus's words in these verses: In Matthew 19:3 the Pharisees asked Jesus a question according to the law in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 about divorce for any cause. In Matthew 19:4-6 we see Jesus reply by reciting the one-flesh covenant of marriage (God's law of marriage) in Genesis 2:23-24. In Matthew 19:7-8 we see Jesus giving the Pharisees the reason that Moses wrote the precept (Deuteronomy 24:1-4), which was because of the hardness of the hearts of the Jews of the exodus (the wicked generation kept out of the promised land) against their wives. In Matthew 19:9 Jesus affirms that the law in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 was for any reason "except for fornication" (Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24) because it was unlawful to give a woman, guilty of a sexual offense, a certificate of divorce in order to become another man's wife. She was stoned to death, which freed the husband from the betrothal in order to seek another wife. However we see this is not a possibility, under the Law of Moses, which now causes the husband to commit adultery by marrying another woman. Keep in mind that Mark 10:1-12 is the same biblical account as Matthew 19:1-12, but does not have a cause for fornication. The reason for this is because this account was written and given to the Gentiles who had no knowledge of the Law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24.
@shadowmist1246
@shadowmist1246 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. I don't know all of the details of your situation and as such, I cannot make conclusions. However, based on what you have said, once she committed adultery, your marriage would have been over (you became no longer one). That would allow you to have a divorce and even remarry someone else. And you are correct, it would be inappropriate for her to remarry or for someone else to marry her.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowmist1246 the divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. However, the wife, in the above scriptures, is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews (that Jesus was speaking to) were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39. Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel. The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death. The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. Christ's death on the cross caused the Jews to become dead to the law of Moses, so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the ordinances of law of Moses as justification, over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the ordinances of the law is no longer possible, for Israel, and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15. Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife. Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned, by an unbelieving spouse, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving those who are abandoned permission to remarry, do not understand the command that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, and that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh, due to one's unbelief, puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, and himself, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command to verses 10-14 in verse 15. Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16. The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions. The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24. Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans, and likewise Luke to evangelize the Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew 5:27-32: 27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 31It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. I don't find any answer to the contrary, in terms of the above scriptures. These scriptures are very clear when it comes to Jesus both defining adultery, and the punishment for those who do not repent. During the time of Christ, an adulteress (caught in the act of adultery) could not be given a certificate of divorce in order to become another man's wife. It would have been a violation of the law in Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10. A wife (espoused/engaged/betrothed) found guilty of fornication, such as written in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, was stoned to death according to the law in Deuteronomy 22:13-21 and Deuteronomy 22:23-24. A wife found guilty, in either case, was stoned to death. Under the law of Moses, it was not lawful for her to be left alive in order to seek another marriage. This means that the wife, that Jesus refers to in Matthew 5:32, could not possibly be guilty, of either fornication or adultery, because she is being given a certificate of divorce. Notice that Jesus is cleary speaking of a wife who is divorced, in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, which can only mean she has not been found guilty of fornication or adultery. The reasons a betrothed (engaged) wife could not be given a certificate of divorce is because (1) she had not yet entered into marriage as one-flesh with her husband, and (2) she was bound to him in a marriage contract that could only be broken by death from either stoning or other means. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared that he "did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill". This means that what he is saying about the wife, in Matthew 5:31-32, could not possibly be referring to one who has been found guilty according to the law, but one who is being given a certificate of divorce according to Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage). Jesus affirms what the law says in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9 by stating that issuing a certificate of divorce was for any reason except fornication, because it was unlawful to issue one for the cause of fornication, or for adultery, according to the law. Jesus is speaking in the context of a divorced wife, not one who is guilty of violating the law. This is further emphasized by what Jesus says, in Matthew 5:32, regarding the innocent man who marries her also comitting adultery by entering into marriage with her.
@JamesWFisher22
@JamesWFisher22 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 what about for men and polygamy in the Bible where men were allowed to take multiple wives but for woman is classified adultery. This is a question. What are your thoughts on that. It says men not to leave their wives but he's not leaving his wife in this situation.
@skips7794
@skips7794 5 жыл бұрын
What about this? 1 Corinthians 7:39 King James Version (KJV) The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. The marital Covenant is indeed for life. Marriage as explained by Paul speaking on Authority of and from divine revelation of Jesus Christ Himself says in Ephesians 5 that marriage is a mirror of Christ and His bride (the church) and Jesus NEVER divorces His bride.
@RyanREAX
@RyanREAX 4 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 God Divorcer Israel
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
@@RyanREAX Only figuratively. Read Jeremiah chapter 3. He divorces her but 6 verses later claims DESPITE THAT DIVORCE he is STILL MARRIED to her. Thus keeping in line with His Word from Genesis 2:24 through and up to Mark 10:9 that Only DEATH breaks the marital Covenant. Study it friend. May the Mighty Holy Spirit lead you to Truth 🙏
@RyanREAX
@RyanREAX 4 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 thanks brother, what about Corinthians 7-14 and 7-15 though?
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
That applies to widows and the never married. 7:15 says that if a spouse departs, let them go(separate) Never says divorce OR that remarriage is allowed. Also, it cant mean divorce bc it would contradict 7:10-11, AND 7:39 which come Before and After it in the same chapter. Also- Romans 7:1-3 confirm almost word for word 1 Corinthians 7:39. The full consensus of scripture supports the marital Covenant is for life and only death breaks it. Good question. God bless. THE LORD is close to those who seek him in Truth. 😊
@danball4410
@danball4410 5 жыл бұрын
How could you totally ignore the last phrase in Matthew 5:32? "But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, AND WHOEVER MARRIES A DIVORCED WOMAN COMMITS ADULTERY." Agreed that adultery is grounds for permitting divorce, but the scripture is so clear that you cannot marry a divorced person. Luke 16:18 agrees: “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. Romans is explicit that this is in place while the ex-spouse lives, but that it ends when the ex-spouse dies. Romans 7:2-3 "For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. (3) Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress."
@stevenadkins5784
@stevenadkins5784 2 жыл бұрын
pres. joe married a devoiced woman an her ex is still alive. joe is friends with him. the church of rome still gives him the body an blood.. is this worng? i was married 1 . she took me to court to dissolution . i didnt even go to the court.. i was free.. i married again a young unmarried girl.. she left me again. an took me to court. i didnt go.. im free.. i will not marry again .ill stay alone because of the kingdom of god an living forever is more on the top of my list.. i am happy an alone..both of my wives lied to me broke their own words..an married again an again..
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, please read my comment about Joseph and Mary... actually divorce is not permitted bcz of adultery... only if there is fornication which in the time of Jesus in Israel a couple engaged were considered husband and wife even though they had not had a wedding yet and come together. soooo if during their engagement...one if unfaithful... then they can get a divorce. Joseph used the word divorce about Mary thinking she had committed fornication. so you see there is no escape clause and like you said no remarriage... We must read the Bible understanding the times and place it was written.
@danball4410
@danball4410 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicia4him1 Hi Alice, thanks for your reply. While I agree that divorce is the same word used "to put away" a betrothal as a marriage, it cannot be the case here in Matt 5:32. This is becomes the one who puts away his wife makes her commit adultery. This is not true of breaking a betrothal because she is free to marry. It is only true of divorcing a spouse. Do you agree?
@lowell30dk
@lowell30dk 4 жыл бұрын
You use a lot of “I think” in your explanations. What counts is what the word of God says, not someone’s opinion.
@garygooden5752
@garygooden5752 3 жыл бұрын
Marriage is M GTOW
@JJ-cw3nf
@JJ-cw3nf 3 жыл бұрын
People don't follow the bible meaning of marriage because it involves feelings. People don't want anyone telling them rules when love is involved. They put their relationship first. And then put the bible second, in an interpretation that fits their love life
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 3 жыл бұрын
this is a scary thought...
@aheartoflovecanneverbedefe4596
@aheartoflovecanneverbedefe4596 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right
@shanny7583
@shanny7583 3 жыл бұрын
What if you wernt SAVED when u 1st got married, you didn't know ,,,does this mean now as a Christian you have to stay alone forever.
@JJ-cw3nf
@JJ-cw3nf 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanny7583 I wonder the same. And think how’s that fair. I don’t think that answer is found in the Bible
@facelesspodcaster5594
@facelesspodcaster5594 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanny7583 yes. I god did not give us grace.
@graceziqver2350
@graceziqver2350 5 жыл бұрын
The Lord God told me to go back to my Husband. Yea He said HUSBAND. I had been divorced from him for about 3 yars att that tim by the goverment. But God said husband not my former husband. Cos God the almighty hate divorce.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas the same question needs to be answered. I am asking specifically about the example Jesus gives of the wife, in Matthew 5:31-32, being actally found guilty of fornication, in these verses, or not guilty of fornication?
@antoniogutierrezjr7471
@antoniogutierrezjr7471 5 жыл бұрын
You corrected your situation don’t worry bout what satan says
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you Grace. God honors Obedience to His Word
@zandrello
@zandrello 4 жыл бұрын
God only speaks to us through His Word. But yes, God does hate divorce, and He "told you" (through His Word) to go back to your husband if the divorce occurred under unbiblical, non-permissible grounds.
@lisegasabo4745
@lisegasabo4745 4 жыл бұрын
@@zandrello what if I didn’t get married in a church and only did a court wedding? Is court wedding same as church wedding?
@antonioandgiasortega9284
@antonioandgiasortega9284 4 ай бұрын
Most comprehensive and balanced interpretation of New Testament teachings on divorce, addressing both sexual immorality and abandonment while maintaining scriptural integrity
@wideawake6501
@wideawake6501 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, every couple is unique and every problem needs solved with prayer God bless❤
@fifthdimension326
@fifthdimension326 3 жыл бұрын
United forever. Please look up the word forever. Forever means until you no longer give breath. It doesn't mean until something else comes along or if he looses his job or if she cannot bare children. Or if she looses her looks..
@barbarapeterson4000
@barbarapeterson4000 2 жыл бұрын
What if he beats her up on a regular basis? Sexually abuses his kids?
@Robin_Corner
@Robin_Corner 3 жыл бұрын
God also gave us the Holy Spirit to lead us into truth. And to give us his view and wisdom on what we should do🙌🏽
@Jaysen6740
@Jaysen6740 3 жыл бұрын
That is a cop out to say you can do whatever you want.
@LivingOnPurpose1
@LivingOnPurpose1 3 жыл бұрын
So what are you really alluding to if you don't mind me asking?
@theappleofhiseye9351
@theappleofhiseye9351 3 жыл бұрын
The wisdom from the Holy spirit must be according to God's word, may I add.
@sounddoctrine3032
@sounddoctrine3032 2 жыл бұрын
Robin, the Holy Spirit agrees the the WORD, so he won't tell you different than what the Word says. 1 John 5:7 (KJV) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. If I can't do anything else, I'm telling you read, 👉🏽👉🏽Divorce and Remarriage: What the Church DIDN'T Tell You! Oh. It will knock your socks off!! My jaw was on the floor after reading. You won't have any questions left after.
@heir_to_the_promise
@heir_to_the_promise 2 жыл бұрын
If there is ever sexual immorality in a marriage, reconciliation is always the better choice. It brings such a powerful testimony within your own relationship, but above all, God is absolutely glorified. After all, our lives are about Him not us. God bless you.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
fornication...
@jcornwall6228
@jcornwall6228 2 жыл бұрын
Very wise and true. Only the holy spirit can reveal this.
@barbarapeterson4000
@barbarapeterson4000 2 жыл бұрын
How about if the husband beats the wife regularly? Or beats the children? Or if the wife verbally abuses the husband, or the kids? Should the couple stay together even though the kids are traumatized, and will carry on the behaviors they learned from their parents?
@heir_to_the_promise
@heir_to_the_promise 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbarapeterson4000 I specifically said sexual immorality. Nothing else. You’ve obviously given an extreme circumstance. Probably just short of the husband killing the wife. Nothing new when someone opposes a view in an argument. But of course I wouldn’t agree to physical violence in a relationship. Besides, I’m speaking of two married Christians. If a man is beating his wife or abusing his children, I wouldn’t call him a Christian.
@barbarapeterson4000
@barbarapeterson4000 2 жыл бұрын
@@heir_to_the_promise So if a man who calls himself a Christian beats his wife...he is not a Christian and she is free to divorce him? I wonder if the guy's pastor would agree with your view? From what I've read, pastors normally tell the wife to put up with it because the marriage, no matter how awful it may be, is not about her and her misery...it's all about glorifying God.
@OldFarmCraft
@OldFarmCraft Жыл бұрын
This is evil to permit remarriage after a divorce while the divorced spouse is still alive.
@grant2149
@grant2149 Жыл бұрын
Excatly he is leading people to sin
@pebcak
@pebcak 4 ай бұрын
And what if they are already married? Live alone forever?
@danielhipp5541
@danielhipp5541 Ай бұрын
draino09 Then are you saying Jesus is evil ? You know he is God right ? Jesus said in Matthew 19:9 you could put away your wife for sexual sin clearly ! KJV have you read that verse in the KJV ?
@rosefenton3005
@rosefenton3005 Ай бұрын
there must be many extenuating circumstances in each individual case, to make a definite scriptural response. Like where a husband has been committing adultery regularly and the woman had his child which was born dead, and the poor wife was innocent and also told to depart from the matrimonial home because he wanted to get the woman in. surely in these circumstances, she would be free to go and if necessary, remarry? would be glad of some scriptural advice
@hike2024
@hike2024 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is not a slam on Dr Schreiner here, I have enjoyed many of his teachings, but on this subject, I believe, he is dead wrong in his conclusion. This discussion always starts with something like this, "divorce is never a good idea". then folks, as he does, end up justifying divorce. Of course it's not a good idea, and Jesus was not justifying divorce and remarriage. He was answering them according the the Law of Moses on this subject, which was still in place during His earthly ministry. The first view that Dr Schreiner gave here is the correct view... and flows along with a biblical world view. Too many Christians today have this so twisted up. Marriage is between 1 man, and 1 woman... and is a life long commitment, till death do us part.
@garygooden5752
@garygooden5752 3 жыл бұрын
M GTOW
@johnborland7865
@johnborland7865 3 жыл бұрын
And adultery is punishable with death. Let’s not forget this. Jesus never once changed the consequences of sin. Those are still in place. So there’s that. Nowhere in scripture can anyone point to Jesus changing the consequences for violating a covenant. Marriage or otherwise, the consequences of violation of a covenant is death. If we’re going to be covenant people shouldn’t we take this seriously? Because Marriage permanence advocates claim separation is the only option but 1Tim 5:6 teaches the one who lives in adultery is dead while they live. So I guess they are dead if they commit adultery and the one who was innocent is free to treat them as dead.
@snaphaan5049
@snaphaan5049 3 жыл бұрын
Cast the first stone.
@johnborland7865
@johnborland7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@snaphaan5049 treating them as does means no stone need be cast.
@snaphaan5049
@snaphaan5049 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnborland7865 Should the woman at the well and Mary been treated as dead? Also, did Moses allow a terrible sin in Israel when he gave them the divorce bill? God was pretty strict about following his rules so what happened there? Also, I get we can strive to be perfect (and that Jesus died for our sins) but can we achieve it? Is it possible to be sinless?
@TheShaha88
@TheShaha88 4 жыл бұрын
Get out of adultery( second marriage). Erasmus tricked the Church by modifying the scriptures. The marriage of unbelievers is still marriage, that doesn’t change because you know Christ. God respect covenant. Oh, there’s nothing legalistic about it...go to your prayer room and fast. Jesus Christ loves us, don’t compromise your eternity for anyone. Only widows can remarry. The is the easiest teaching of Christ, but the flesh fights it. Stay strong and blessed!
@nestea1278
@nestea1278 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained.
@exposefrauds3929
@exposefrauds3929 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100% biblically correct, as ordained by the Father in Heaven!
@saved6655
@saved6655 3 жыл бұрын
We have more than just the kjv. Older manuscripts say the same thing. There is three clauses. Sexual immorality breaks covenant, unbelievers abandon a believer, and death. So you have to understand these same clauses are in manuscripts way before Erasmus.
@nestea1278
@nestea1278 3 жыл бұрын
@@saved6655 So you're saying sexual immorality not fornication and abandonment are biblically reasons someone could divorce and be remarried to another person? You are saying that there are older manuscripts than the KJV that agree with these teachings? What are these older manuscripts and where can I find one and read them? And have you seen them?
@saved6655
@saved6655 3 жыл бұрын
@@nestea1278 so what I’m saying is I feel I line up with you on sexual immorality (like, not allowed to divorce over sexual immorality) but there is exception for a unbeliever marrying a believer and the unbeliever leaving and the believer letting them go. For there peace. That’s clear in the scripture. And yes if you understand textual criticism, the majority text is based on 1500 to 1700 years of manuscripts. The textis receptis kjv is based on manuscripts out of the 12 th century. Majority texts come from closer dates to the originals textis receptis kjv comes from 6 to 12 manuscripts out of the 12th century. So you need to do some history before you start talking crap about the newer texts. Yes granted the niv is really based on like 7th grade reading. I am a NASB guy. And remember the NASB and kjv are about 99 percent contextually the same. There is just verses like 1 John 5:7 and revelations 16:8 and the end of mark that are not found in the first manuscripts that are not foot noted in the kjv. And in the NASB and newer translations are foot noted. Trust me I’m not a big niv fan, but I’m not the biggest kjv fan either there’s just too many scriptures that don’t line up with original Greek and Erasmus himself said this
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 5 жыл бұрын
It may not be sin to divorce in some cases like infidelity or perhaps dissertion, however it often is and our laws of "no fault" divorce enable a devaluing of matrimony. Tragically the divorce rates among churched people basically mirror those of secular society!
@leonseva4980
@leonseva4980 5 жыл бұрын
I think anyone can justify leaving their spouse. There is no church discipline. Everyone does what is right in their own eyes.
@lkae4
@lkae4 5 жыл бұрын
Churched people is not the same as Christian walking in Christ. The obedient Christian in church is sadly not the norm. But then Jesus told us of the narrow and wide gates.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Christ commands not to divorce in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jack, please read my comment on Joseph and Mary and you will see ...once married divorce is never permitted. Fornication is outside of marriage I found something amazing in the story of Joseph and Mary which explains why Jesus said... ¨... except for fornication....¨
@soothingmusic4256
@soothingmusic4256 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonseva4980 stop going and supporting these churches
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 3 жыл бұрын
What God puts together let no man take apart. We disagree here.
@silvana-brazil-usa9422
@silvana-brazil-usa9422 3 жыл бұрын
yes only when God put together,
@grant2149
@grant2149 11 ай бұрын
​ilvana-brazil-usa9422 False. God recognises ALL marriages Believer or unbeliever. Hebrews 13:4. Once Marriage is consumated it is for life. GO study your bible
@brianhemmert9394
@brianhemmert9394 3 жыл бұрын
"I think we would all agree polygamy is wrong. Ideally God would want us to have just one wife, but if you ask God to forgive you you can stay in those relationships." I think we would all agree incest is wrong....but! I think we all agree, pedophilia is wrong, but...? Marriage is clearly defined in Romans 7:2-3 and is until death do they part! Don't listen to heretical teachers who will lead you astray, by appealing to your emotions. God never said trust in man!
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Good ! Keep standing for only the truth... exception clause is for the ones who want their selfish way and do not want to fight for their marriage NO MATTER WHAT.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your strong witness... your stand on this matter of GREAT importance. We are so carnal still... i need a lot of work from the Potter but we must give all to Christ. we can see by the comments people want to do their own will and seek scripture to prove it is okay. I know it is hard but what is harder ? God is so ready to provide all you need emotionally.
@BrunoFernandesPinto
@BrunoFernandesPinto 2 жыл бұрын
If you can help me by answering the questions below, I would appreciate it. 1) I have not found a text that says that a MAN abandoned (passive) by his wife commits adultery if he marries another woman or that he should remain alone; 2) a woman abandoned, even for an unjust cause (Deut. 24), could remarry (she was not to be stoned as an adulteress, Deut. 22), except to priests (Lev. 21). After the coming of the Lord, the woman unjustly abandoned can no longer marry? Was there more freedom for the abandoned woman before? Jesus said that he would not repeal the Law given by His Father. 3) Why does the text about "divorce" (or separation) appear in Luke in the middle of texts about money? 4) Why is it believed that the union of one flesh is something ontological, and there are several passages in which it is demonstrated that this does not occur (Abraham and Hagar, marriage with foreigners, relations between relatives, Ex. 22,17, I Cor. 5, I Cor .6, Deut. 24...) 5) The verbs allow and command are interchanged in Matthew 19 and Mark 10. Why does almost everyone who preaches Matthew 19 ignore this interchange in Mark 10? 6) Why do people ignore that the procedural question of the divorce certificate has value? Think with me: what was the penalty for adultery? Stoning? Not always. If there were no witnesses and she was guilty, the penalty for the same offense would be different, according to Num. 5. Why is it not noticed that God made this point in Isaiah 50 when asking where the divorce certificate would be? 7) if an unbeliever leaves his believing spouse and disappears in the world. In a short time, no one knows the whereabouts of the person, and not even if he is alive (the Brazilian Civil Code even regulates absence, by the way), the believing spouse would be prohibited from getting married permanently, because how would he know if the other died? 8) do you think that in Corinth there were no divorced people? If in Israel the concept of marriage was no longer there, in the Greek environment there was no divorce? Paul did not give the Corinthians any divorce decrees. 9) Paul told Timothy that doctrines of demons would arise: prohibition of marriages and food. Do you know anywhere banning food only to leaders? I am not. So why interpret that the ban on marriages that would arise would only be for leaders (as we usually interpret it, understanding Catholics in that position)? 10) Paul said in Romans 7 that the wife was bound to her husband unto death by the LAW, not by an indissoluble Neoplatonic ontological bond. The woman could be required by the man if he did not give her a certificate of divorce. But if he gave it, even if unjustly and because of the hardness of heart, she was not bound to him by the LAW. Paul used the rule to use a metaphor. God bless you!
@freetdg
@freetdg 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to have to go with God's plan of salvation on this question.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
pray tell....what is that...
@silentj80
@silentj80 4 жыл бұрын
@@philipbuckley759 no remarriage until covenant has ended
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
@@silentj80 thank you.....
@TriciaRP
@TriciaRP 4 жыл бұрын
@@silentj80 by death. People are trying to make Jesus word and teachings difficult....it isn't.
@nestea1278
@nestea1278 3 жыл бұрын
@@TriciaRP yes!!! It really really isn't hard at all.
@stevenyoutsey8989
@stevenyoutsey8989 3 жыл бұрын
Look to God for wisdom and knowledge
@jamesbanks2329
@jamesbanks2329 3 жыл бұрын
And allowing what is written in the Scriptures to overturn what you may personally think!
@scatterhawk47
@scatterhawk47 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone addressed abuse? Serious assault where one has been convicted and jailed, is the victim free to remarry? Why or why not?
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
if there is abuse the abused needs to protect themselves and separate physically but the abuser needs salvation...forgiveness... but only if he is transformed can there be hope for reconcilation... Remarriage is not permitted bcz there is a possible hope of change
@angel79nunn
@angel79nunn 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicia4him1 And what if they won't change?
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
@@angel79nunn How long should be give them to change ? you see the Lord does not ever give up on them. It is VERY hard though but God says no remarriage.. only if spouse dies. Because even at 80 plus years a person can repent and we need to make Jesus our true Husband- : ) He is so true and faithful and better than any husband ... if a man marries a divorced woman he causes her to commit adultery. so difficult but our loneliness can truly be taken away from us by Christ... our all in all.
@DARKhorses73
@DARKhorses73 2 жыл бұрын
Did you pray and ask God and seek him before you even married ?
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
They must separate physically ... but this abusive spouse can be saved... so we mus not divorce ...keep praying for their soul and for a miracle.
@oskirules
@oskirules Жыл бұрын
You can almost hear Satan say, "it's never the ideal but......."
@garytakvorian6204
@garytakvorian6204 4 жыл бұрын
The devil is not just a liar but a subtle (sneaky!) one. Notice right at the beginning this teacher says "one man-one woman" marriage is God's "ideal". NO. It is God's standard. Marriage, one man-one woman "until death do you part" is God's standard. Luke 16:18, Romans 7:1-3, 1 Corinthians 7:39.
@PaulSpurlock9898
@PaulSpurlock9898 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Christ had to die on the cross because of how incapable mankind is at meeting God's standard?
@dunamis333
@dunamis333 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulSpurlock9898 If this is what you believe, like so many, you've been deceived. The Lord's death and resurrection is for the purpose of providing us with His Holy Spirit so that we CAN practise His righteousness here on earth. This includes being married to one person for life. This man is a false teacher and knows nothing! He's leading thousands straight to hell! The marriage covenant in Christ has been reverted back to what it was, in the very beginning, with Adam and Eve - One man married to one woman until death. In these Last Days of the Church Age it's so easy to find churches that will feed you lies as truths with regards to the marriage covenant. Only corrupt and perverted churches teach that it's perfectly fine to remarry after divorce, especially if you're not the one who cheated. Churches that make up the Bride of Christ do not teach this lie that originated in the pit of hell. They teach the Truth of the Lord Jesus Christ. "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” [Mark 10:11,12] When a man and a woman make a covenant before God to marry until death, it means exactly that. Only the death of one of them can dissolve the marriage covenant. The covenant they both make before God is inscribed on their very souls. If the man commits adultery against his wife or visa versa the marriage covenant will be defiled but not dissolved. Men and women don't enter into a marriage covenant on the understanding that they'll dissolved it if one or both of them commit adultery. Christian Couples really need to pay more attention to the vows they're making before God on their wedding Day. Because the sin of adultery cannot break the marriage covenant, but can only defile it, the Lord told the married woman, who was caught in the act of adultery to: "...go and sin no more.” [John 8:11] In other words, the Lord told her to stop defiling her marriage covenant but instead to remain faithful to her own husband. The "fornication clause" many are using as an excuse to remarry only applied to betrothed wives in Jewish times! A betrothed couple waited for about a Year before they consummated their marriage. If within that Year the betrothed wife committed fornication, the betrothed husband could "divorce" her to marry someone else. This is what Joseph wanted to do when he thought Mary had committed fornication not adultery. "Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery..." [Matt.19:9] After a marriage has been consummated, if a spouse then commits adultery, a separation, not divorce, is permitted. If the spouse repents, however, a reconciliation must be sought. If he or she doesn't repent and goes off to marry someone else, the innocent spouse must remain unmarried and continue to pray for a reconciliation. This may or may not happen. "Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife." [1 Cor.7:10,11] "But if the unbelieving spouse separates himself, let him be separated. In circumstances like these, the brother or sister is not enslaved - God has called you to a life of peace." [1Cor.7:15] This is another verse many Christians use to support remarriages. They're reading into the text something that is not there. The brother or sister not being enslaved simply means that the brother or sister are no longer able to function in the capacity as a husband or a wife any longer, because their respective spouses have chosen to leave. For we get married to be enslaved, in a good sense, to our spouses! "And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness...present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness...But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God" [Rom.6:18,19,22] Being enslaved to our spouses means being a slave of righteousness for holiness. It means being a slave of God. You really have to twist the Scriptures to conclude that not being enslaved means you're free to remarry if your spouse leaves. This is confirmed to not be the case. For in the very next verse Paul places the responsibility of saving the spouse who has left in the hands of the husband or wife, who are to remain unmarried. "For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?" [1 Cor.7:16] A husband or a wife cannot pray with a pure heart before God, for the salvation of a spouse who has left, if they're committing adultery, in an unlawful marriage, with someone else. What so many Christians don't realise is that the Lord Jesus Christ is using the marriage covenant to separate the wheat from the chaff in the Church before the Rapture. This is why it's so important for Christians to choose their spouses very very carefully. Because, unlike the World, we have only one chance to get it right. And if we blow it we may have to spend the rest of our lives alone in order to remain within God's perfect will.
@finalfantasy3808
@finalfantasy3808 4 жыл бұрын
Fornication in this verse/context means if they have sex while they were betrothed/engaged BEFORE they get married, because they are considered married at this stage. For example, it says Joseph wanted to divorce Mary when they were engaged because he thought she committed FORNICATION when she was pregnant: "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused [betrothed] to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away [divorce] privily."-Matthew 1:18-19 So that is the only time you can "divorce", is if the betrothed commits fornication before the marriage. After they say their vows before God, they are bound to each other and legally married, and then if they have sex with someone other than their spouse, then that is called Adultery. Fornication- Having sex while never been married. Adultery- Sex with someone other than your spouse, while you are married. Also Adultery- Divorced & remarrying someone else. So you shouldn't EVER DIVORCE because God hates divorce. God said Moses PERMITTED divorce, God did not command it.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, Amen.
@Pedro-of4tn
@Pedro-of4tn 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and well written.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
before they came together Mary was pregnant and Joseph thought this was fornication so he was going to divorce... does not say separate... so divorce, like you said.. before the real marriage where they start living together... is allowed... they were not one flesh yet.
@danielhipp5541
@danielhipp5541 Ай бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 wrong said ! Matthew 19:9 Jesus said except for fornication Greek word Porneia any sexual sin including adultery. He did not say espoused wife he said wife. If I put away my fiancé, that’s like putting away my girlfriend of course it is not sin. The marriage has not been consummated. There is no sin there. It’s not a big deal. Of course there’s no commitment there. He’s talking about married couple. That’s why he said wife. Have you read Matthew 19:9 KJV ?
@danielhipp5541
@danielhipp5541 Ай бұрын
Finalfantasy you are wrong ! Jesus said,in Matthew 19:9 except it be for fornication the Greek word for fornication is Porneia that is any sexual sin, including adultery. The reason he said fornication instead of adultery if she committed beastiality, you could not put her away he use that Greek word to include any sexual sin and he did say wife, NOT espoused wife there is a difference you cannot argue that, if I put away my fiancé or my girlfriend, of course I’m not sinning because it’s not consummated and it is not the same as being married take it a step. Further adultery is fornication it’s sexual sin that’s what the word means any sexual sin that’s why he said the word fornication I used to believe the way you did until I re-search the word Porneia it is any sexual sin.😊
@snaphaan5049
@snaphaan5049 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think a lot of people in these comments has worked with domestic abuse. It can change your perspective.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you must protect yourself from physical abuse. absolutely. keep forgiving and praying. God sees you terrible hurt and wants to comfort you with His love and care. when i say forgive i don´t mean take them back into the home or stay in the home... but in your heart forgive and pray for their salvation and transformation which the Lord so very much wants for them.
@snaphaan5049
@snaphaan5049 8 ай бұрын
@christsavesreadromans1096 It doesn't permit one te return to your former partner.
@The12thSeahorse
@The12thSeahorse 5 жыл бұрын
Well according to the Mosaic law a husband could divorce his wife by rendering some kind of letter normally for some stupid reason, depending on which school of thought. But the Pharisees challenged Jesus with this account. But what did Jesus say....the reason this is so is because you are so hard to teach....and then he goes on about the beginning of the world. Jesus may of acknowledge divorce, but re-marriage is nowhere implied. Paul says you may not be bound by the unbeliever, better to live in peace. He does say that you may re-marry if the other spouse becomes deceased, he doesn’t say that you can re-marry while the other spouse is still alive (this teaching is very foreign to our 21st century ears). If one tries hard enough, the scriptures can be twisted to suit the flavour of the day.
@selenaxiris
@selenaxiris 5 жыл бұрын
Marie W 777 because marriage is Holy.
@ferzinhaN
@ferzinhaN 5 жыл бұрын
@Marie W 777 My answer would be separation. Be single until the idiot makes the first move of moving on then divorce & remarry. Matthew 19: 9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."
@SLVBULL
@SLVBULL 5 жыл бұрын
We all fall short for the glory of God. The church in her wisdom understands our fallen nature and for this reason allows a divorced person to remarry depending on the circumstances. The church obviously won't tolerate someone marrying 10 times for example.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus commands the divorced to remain unmarried or be reconciled in 1 Corinthians 7:11.
@Sammyj12991
@Sammyj12991 5 жыл бұрын
Ferz N You need to use KJV. It says fornication. Before marriage. Rightly divide the word and you will realize that Matthew is a gospel pertaining to Jewish ears. Mark 10 KJV ONLY is answers on remarriage
@Coachchioma
@Coachchioma 2 ай бұрын
I think this is one of the reasons I appreciate the Catholic Church who don’t believe in divorce but an analysis of the marriage and a determination of whether the marriage lacked the original foundation of a Godly marriage
@specificfaith6898
@specificfaith6898 2 жыл бұрын
Luke 16 says the unjust steward will discount the “bill” for the favor of men while betraying the riches of his master. Marriage is a gift from God that is being mistreated in the hands of unjust stewards.
@mitchellelliott7813
@mitchellelliott7813 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of reading into the texts here. For one thing, the "exception clause" in Matthew 5 and 19 has to do with what are grounds for an instance of adultery, not justification for the divorce. For another, interpreting "you are not bound" in 1 Cor. 7 to also apply beyond the scope of the text (the unbeliever insisting on separating) to remarriage as well is a big stretch.
@mchristr
@mchristr 2 жыл бұрын
Paul's declaration in 1 Cor. 7 that the believing spouse is no longer bound implies the freedom to remarry. It wouldn't make any sense to say the someone no longer has an obligation to a prior marriage, only to deny them remarriage. If words mean anything, one who is unbound is free by definition.
@mitchellelliott7813
@mitchellelliott7813 2 жыл бұрын
@@mchristr it can simply mean that the Christian is not bound to live with them if they do not consent. Because this is a completely viable possibility, it requires more from the text to say it clearly refers to the actual marriage being severed in the eyes of God such that remarriage is allowable.
@markinvt
@markinvt 2 жыл бұрын
"Bound" or "bondage" in 1 Cor 7:15 is not the same word for the marital bond. Actually, the Greek text literally says "the brother or sister has not been enslaved." If an unbelieving mate leaves, Paul's command is to let them leave; they are not slaves to their mate, they are slaves to Christ. If it were the word for the marital bond, it wouldn't make sense since the tense is PAST. The interpretation would have Paul saying "You have not been married," which is absurd considering he's addressing married couples. Thus, according to Scriptures, desertion, as many falsely claim, is not grounds for divorce.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
@@markinvt right and separated couples can have their marriage restored by the Lord.... never give up hope for restoration ... God´s know will. He will be working on this for you He wants to see restoration. ... salvation of prodigals.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
@@mchristr it says not under bondage....a different word.....this whole subject is racked with mis translated, and mis used terms...
@MrsYoung-in9ov
@MrsYoung-in9ov 3 жыл бұрын
My (unbelieving) husband left 6 years ago and took up with another woman. He would not file so I finally did. Am I in the wrong for filing? Is the sin on my hands?
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
seems impossible but this new marriage is or relationship is not of God so you can pray for restoration no matter how bad it looks or how long it has been... God really really wants to restore marriages.
@MH-yk2gy
@MH-yk2gy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Adultery allows a person to divorce. However you must remain as you are, no remarriage as long as he lives. I am in the same predicament. Be strong and pray and God will heal you and he himself your provider and protector.
@_BirdOfGoodOmen
@_BirdOfGoodOmen 10 ай бұрын
Nah. That's prima facie infidelity so it's permitted.
@djdj-qx3hb
@djdj-qx3hb 4 жыл бұрын
The gospel is clear until death do you part.
@ebenezeramare1
@ebenezeramare1 3 жыл бұрын
Except if your spouse cheats
@ebenezeramare1
@ebenezeramare1 3 жыл бұрын
@@deonmay7860 that's not what Jesus says in Matthew
@ebenezeramare1
@ebenezeramare1 3 жыл бұрын
@@deonmay7860 true, you right.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebenezeramare1 Mark 10:10-12: 10And in the house the disciples again began questioning Him about this. 11And He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; 12and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.”
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332
@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 Millions of reprobate Christians have divorced & remarried disobeying the Lord Christ, and so will pay the grave penalty. "9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? **Be not deceived:** neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (ASV) They don't understand that when a person becomes "DECEIVED" they are not AWARE of it themselves....
@richardbranche8873
@richardbranche8873 4 ай бұрын
This is a good message. Thanks for sharing this word and exposing those preachers who make their opinions doctrines ❤
@genegroover3721
@genegroover3721 5 жыл бұрын
Your grace and love is so very evident in your answer. Thank you.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
Do you choose to follow man blindly, or be obedient to Christ and his commands?
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
grace does not allow for sin.....
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 3 жыл бұрын
Gene Groover- there's no Grace and love in this video only lies and manipulations.
@garrimic3
@garrimic3 5 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 7:10-11 KJV [10] And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: [11] But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. The Lord Jesus Christ also said let her remain unmarried. Which could also mean the same as the man. Or be reconciled... Paul clearly says “not I, but the Lord says” Matthew 19 Jesus Christ also gave a description of why divorce was brought up. Matthew 19:8 KJV [8] He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. It was because of (sin as usual) not forgiving the one who caused the sin. Even in Matthew 19 Jesus Christ also stated this.... Matthew 19:9 KJV [9] And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Some individuals are actually living an adulterous marriage, but are claiming that they are actually being blessed by God.... what?????? It makes no sense... Can you get a divorce??? Absolutely... Is it okay??? No, Unless the other spouse actually had sex with a different individual. Then and only then will it fall into the okay category. My spouse actually told me that she wasn’t happy in our marriage and because God wants her to be happy she could divorce me and marry another... I just looked at her and said good luck with that one... when you actually have sex with a different man let me know... she actually asked me why and I responded... because God will actually bless my second marriage and look at your second marriage as an adulterous marriage....
@auh2o148
@auh2o148 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched both of the videos of this guy talking about this subject. He should not be the one to talk about this subject.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
Very True.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
Because he's uninformed biblically and outright incorrect on top of it.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasontexas10 Read Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:5-6, Ephesians 5:25-33... Afterwards read Mark 10:7-12 Luke 16:18 Romans 7:1-3 1 Corinthians 7:39 Then compare that consensus of scripture with what he says in the video. Your answer should be CRYSTAL clear. And btw, use the KJV or ASV and dont waste time with modern false translations. 🙏
@auh2o148
@auh2o148 4 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 thanx, and don't forget Matt 5. But personally i prefer interlinear bibles.
@auh2o148
@auh2o148 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasontexas10 fair enough, but check out philarevolutionarywarrior
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
Recently I've been commenting quite a bit regarding the Marriage Permanence Doctrine, and picking apart specific details. The doctrine says that divorce is generally prohibited and will not be recognized by God. And if you do divorce and remarry, you effectively lose your salvation, or become ineligible for salvation if you aren't already saved. This time I want to reveal what motivates me to attack this doctrine so relentlessly. I sincerely believe the Marriage Permanence Doctrine is a thoroughly detestable and blasphemous heresy that originated in the Pits of Hell. I consider that doctrine to be roughly morally equivalent to Nazism or White Supremacy. Yes, it really is that evil. It is also easily disprovable when other scripture verses are read and understood in context. So I don't just argue against it to engage in some academic debate. I consider it a hideous and monstrous blasphemy that ought to be sent back to Hell where it belongs. The teaching slanders God. It keeps the abused and oppressed in bondage. And it discredits the Faith as a whole. Don't get me wrong. The intent is that marriage be lifelong. If it was legit to dump your spouse for any reason, no reason, or simply so you can shag some cutie that comes along, then marriage might as well not exist at all. Dumping a faithful spouse for some frivolous reason is treacherous and evil. But the marriage permanence doctrine is also evil because it denies adequate recourse to those whose spouses flagrantly violate their marital vows. Real life is not the Hallmark Channel. And "separate, but don't divorce" is not an adequate remedy in most cases. I've seen people on the other side make claims like "The Word of God is very clear! No divorce allowed! Even if he hits you!" Please do not believe such people. The Word of God contains no such mandate. Anybody can fart out bible quotes to give the illusion of support for their position. But a solid relationship with God made possible through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and informed by the Holy Ghost will help us all expose and reject such destructive falsehoods like the Marriage Permanence Doctrine. If you are a Church elder reading this: please remember that tolerating abusive marriages in your congregation will do far greater damage to your credibility and the reputation of your assembly than any divorce would. It is the former that is a sign of moral decay, not the latter. Discouraging divorce even in cases of egregious evil is cruel, it is morally bankrupt, and it is an act discreditable to the Faith. Have nothing to do with it!
@k530i4u
@k530i4u 2 жыл бұрын
If two people can't live peacefully then how can it be called a marriage. You are right. These people can forgive every sin including murder but not divorce and remarriage.
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
@@k530i4u What I've realized when I learned about the Marriage Permanence Doctrine is that there is definitely an audience for restrictive legalistic teachings. In other words, the unsound teachings that the "itching ears" want to hear can also be more restrictive. It meets some need of theirs to promote this kind of thing.
@lynnfazenbaker9614
@lynnfazenbaker9614 2 жыл бұрын
If two women had come to Jesus and asked which is better for an unwanted child: aborting the child or giving it up for adoption, Jesus would have told them that the will of God from the beginning was that children be born of the permanent union between one man and one woman. The child is half his and half hers and the representation of the two in one flesh that God has joined and no man can separate. Therefore neither abortion nor giving a child up for adoption is the way it was meant to be from the beginning. If this had happened, would we today be leaving children with abusive or neglectful parents instead of rescuing them? Sending them back again and again, telling them if they honor their mother and father as the commandment says and pray hard, their parents will change? If we would still rescue children from abusive parents they only have to endure for 18 years, shouldn't we rescue spouses (and their children) from abusive marriages? A marriage is supposed to represent the relationship between Christ and the Church. If it's a misrepresentation, what's more harmful to the institution of marriage: ending that relationship or continuing to call such a misrepresentation a marriage? In the beginning, no tissue in the human body was meant to become cancerous. God hates cancer, I'm sure. Does that mean cancer doesn't exist? Should we not try to remove it before it kills the person? Marriage is until death. The human soul is eternal. Should we risk an eternal soul to preserve a temporal relationship? Can a marriage become an idol keeping you away from God? Just some thoughts as a person unofficially separated for 6 years from someone who is nice but is missing whatever part runs marriage software. Someone who wanted a wife but didn't realize that meant he was supposed to be a husband. And simply cannot be one.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
you don´t need to divorce if he hits you ... you need to get away and protect yourself... Let God take vengence... God will not divorce us is we sin... but we must not walk continually in sin... we would not be saved anyway if we are doing this so you can´t lose salvation if you don´t have it. Forgive and bless the abusive husband... protect yourself against him... pray for his salvation every day... don´t give up there are no impossible cases or lost causes. As far as it is with in your power live at peace. God loves your husband and wants to see him saved and delivered. God really really loves you so much.
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicia4him1 An abused spouse isn't God. And what is wrong with divorce in such a case? You talk as if divorce is a sin. It isn't, or Deuteronomy 24 would have said something very different. Sometimes it's best to cut off the relationship once and for all. If he repents, great. But that doesn't mean the consequences go away. If your spouse violates the marital vows, you have every right to seek relief up to and including divorce - regardless of any prospect for repentance. Don't let any of those marriage permanence heretics tell you any different. If it was sin in 2000 BC, it's sin today. If it was lawful (not sin) in 2000 BC, it's lawful today. Basic morality never changes.
@chrishowell5491
@chrishowell5491 2 жыл бұрын
What God has joined together let no man separate. Many have divorced and remarried and are in a constant state of mortal sin.
@cindyh606
@cindyh606 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@crystalsharpe7451
@crystalsharpe7451 2 жыл бұрын
Today's church does not quite understand the ancient setting, dialog that is going on between Jesus and the Pharisees. Divorce was permitted for four things: neglect which is a form of abuse, that is, to deny clothing and food; fornication/adultery; and love (sexual intimacy). These were grounds for divorce. Exodus 21:10-11. The rabbis, by the time of Jesus, developed an "Any Cause" divorce which He disagreed with. This can be found in Deuteronomy 24:1 in short: If he (husband) finds "something" indecent in her. That 'something' is the Hebrew word Davar and it means 'thing.' The rabbis had made the one law of 'something indecent' (fornication/adultery) into two laws. The 'thing' would be the first law and indecent the second law. The 'thing' led to 'Any Cause' divorce. One could have a divorce for a' thing' or a divorce because of a disgrace/indecent. Matthew 19:3, The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him: "Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" So, this is not about adultery or fornication (before marriage, not being a virgin), it is how they misinterpreted Deuteronomy 21:1. in the first century. Many of the Pharisees and Sadducees used the "Any Cause' for their divorces. They divorced their wives over anything, like maybe, too many wrinkles, or the food was burnt, or she just became ill, etc. Jesus brings up the Torah and male and female becoming one flesh, and what God jointed together, let no man separate. The Pharisees ask: "Why did Moses then write a Certificate of Divorce, and to put her away? They may be insinuating adultery, because adultery was granted a Bill of Divorcement, and 'Any Cause' was not. Jesus responds that divorce for adultery was permitted because of the hardness of their hearts. Jews in the past thought it compulsory to divorce the spouse who committed adultery. Jesus says it is not compulsory but permitted, the word is permitted, because of the hardness of their hearts. There was no Bill of Divorcement for 'Any Cause,' only for neglect (no food, clothing), no love, and adultery. So, Jesus is speaking to them that He knew of their 'Any Cause' divorces and these divorces were invalid. Therefore, because it is invalid, these Pharisees were committing the unthinkable---adultery. The spouse they sent away would also be committing adultery.
@justjanelle3975
@justjanelle3975 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@Mr1bigsal
@Mr1bigsal 4 жыл бұрын
You should separate 1st. Pray for them. Don't look for easy out
@wendylafortune9627
@wendylafortune9627 5 жыл бұрын
He is leading God’s people astray 🥺🥺
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. A blind guide, like many others.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he is. There's even willfully ignorant fools here in the comments section agreeing with him. Sad
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtfike Unfortunately you continue to prove and confirm my point above. Seek the Lord with all your heart and you shall find Him. I suggest reading Luke 16:18 Mark 10:2-12 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 Romans 7:2-3 1 Corinthians 7:39 Genesis 2:24 Galatians 5:19-21 1 Corinthians 6:9 2 Timothy 2:18
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtfike the entire doctrine of remarriage after a divorce is based on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9.
@thomasjefferson5727
@thomasjefferson5727 4 жыл бұрын
@@jtfike When did Jesus we were free from the law??? "if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments"
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
In Matthew 5:32 the husband who divorces his wife, even if she has not comitted fornication, is now one-flesh with her and cannot be put away, even with a certificate of divorce. Those who do cause even the innocent wife to commit adultery, and whosoever marries her that is divorced commits adultery with her. This scripture is clear that the only time adultery enters the equation is after a divorce, not after fornication. This is solid proof that the exception for fornication is referring to sex comitted by the betrothed (engaged) wife during betrothal and not a wife who has consummated her pledge into a one-flesh covenant of marriage.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
Fornication is what people commit against their own body. Whether it is sex with a partner, or masturbation, it is a sin against the body of those who commit it. Adultery is a sin against the one you become one-flesh with, in a covenant of marriage. This is the proper context of these terms. Those who falsely interpret fornication, as being the same as adultery, cause conflict in Matthew's gospel, by implying that unless adultery is comitted (by the wife during the marriage) then adultery is being caused through a divorce and subsequent remarriage. This hits a wall, when it comes to Matthew 5:31-32, because it would still show that a married wife (if she were not a betrothed wife as shown in Matthew 5:31-32, Matthew 19:9, and also in the case of Mary in Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7) is caused to commit adultery after receiving a certificate of divorce , except it be for (not including) adultery having been comitted previously. So either way, these scriptures still show a wife (during the time of Christ), unless being found guitly of having previously comitted fornication before or during betrothal (Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24,), or found comitting adultery during marriage (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22), is being caused to commit adultery ("defiled" according to Deuteronomy 24:4) with whosoever marries her after she is divorced. During the time of Christ, and John the Baptist, it was impossible to give a wife caught in adultery a certificate of divorce, in order to become another man's wife, according to the law in Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10. The emphasis should be on the true definition of fornication (sexual immorality/whoredom), as seen in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, by showing you the context of how it is used in Genesis 38:6-26. Genesis 38:6-26: 6And Judah takes a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name [is] Tamar; 7and Er, Judah’s firstborn, is evil in the eyes of YHWH, and YHWH puts him to death. 8And Judah says to Onan, “Go in to the wife of your brother, and marry her, and raise up seed to your brother”; 9and Onan knows that the seed is not [reckoned] his; and it has come to pass, if he has gone in to his brother’s wife, that he has destroyed [it] to the earth, so as not to give seed to his brother; 10and that which he has done is evil in the eyes of YHWH, and He puts him also to death. 11And Judah says to his daughter-in-law Tamar, “Abide [as] a widow at your father’s house, until my son Shelah grows up”; for he said, “Lest he die-even he-like his brothers”; and Tamar goes and dwells at her father’s house. 12And the days are multiplied, and the daughter of Shuah, Judah’s wife, dies; and Judah is comforted, and goes up to his sheep-shearers, he and Hirah his friend the Adullamite, to Timnath. 13And it is declared to Tamar, saying, “Behold, your husband’s father is going up to Timnath to shear his flock”; 14and she turns aside the garments of her widowhood from off her, and covers herself with a veil, and wraps herself up, and sits in the opening of Enayim, which [is] by the way to Timnath, for she has seen that Shelah has grown up, and she has not been given to him for a wife. 15And Judah sees her, and reckons her for a harlot, for she has covered her face, 16and he turns aside to her by the way and says, “Please come, let me come in to you,” for he has not known that she [is] his daughter-in-law; and she says, “What do you give to me, that you may come in to me?” 17And he says, “I send a kid of the goats from the flock.” And she says, “Do you give a pledge until you send [it]?” 18And he says, “What [is] the pledge that I give to you?” And she says, “Your seal, and your ribbon, and your staff which [is] in your hand”; and he gives to her, and goes in to her, and she conceives to him; 19and she rises, and goes, and turns aside her veil from off her, and puts on the garments of her widowhood. 20And Judah sends the kid of the goats by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive the pledge from the hand of the woman, and he has not found her. 21And he asks the men of her place, saying, “Where [is] the separated one-she in Enayim, by the way?” And they say, “There has not been in this [place] a separated one.” 22And he turns back to Judah and says, “I have not found her; and the men of the place also have said, There has not been in this [place] a separated one,” 23and Judah says, “Let her take to herself, lest we become despised; behold, I sent this kid, and you have not found her.” 24And it comes to pass about three months [after], that it is declared to Judah, saying, “Your daughter-in-law Tamar has committed fornication; and also, behold, she has conceived by fornication”: and Judah says, “Bring her out-and she is burned.” 25She is brought out, and she has sent to her husband’s father, saying, “To a man whose these [are], I [am] pregnant”; and she says, “Please discern whose these [are]-the seal, and the ribbons, and the staff.” 26And Judah discerns and says, “She has been more righteous than I, because that I did not give her to my son Shelah”; and he has not added to know her again. The context of the scriptures above show that Tamar and Judah are both widowed, and Tamar is the widow of Judah's sons Er and Onan, and is living with her father-in-law Judah. Neither of them are married, and Tamar is not betrothed to Judah's youngest son Shelah. She was not a prostitute, but only pretended to be in order to trick her father-in-law, Judah, into fornication in order to force him into marriage. These scriptures in Genesis 38, along with what is written in the law about a betrothed virgin being unfaithful before her wedding night, in Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24, you see what Jesus meant by "except it be for fornication" in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:9, and the clear differences between fornication and adultery in the context of the scriptures.
@darrellcollins877
@darrellcollins877 3 жыл бұрын
huh
@kendallholton6729
@kendallholton6729 2 жыл бұрын
But if this is an exception for the engagement and not speaking to marriage, then the two would not have had sex yet, thus they would not be one flesh. If this is the case then how could the husband be committing adultery on her?
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 2 жыл бұрын
@@kendallholton6729 a violation (formication) during betrothal (engagement) was also an offense punishable by death.
@kendallholton6729
@kendallholton6729 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 yes. But If you are saying that this refers to betrothal, then Jesus would be saying you can’t call off an engagement, except for fornication on one’s side, without making the two of you adulterous, even though they themselves haven’t slept together yet. How can adultery be committed prior to sexual engagement.
@MONKEYSCHANNEL327
@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 4 жыл бұрын
It has been said, “Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.” But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32, NIV)
@lilyflower5576
@lilyflower5576 3 жыл бұрын
Does this mean if a spouse commits sexual immorality one can divorce or and remarry or no? People keep saying different things about this and it seems like a really serious issue
@MONKEYSCHANNEL327
@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilyflower5576 The bible says to forgive, but if someone keeps sinning purposely against you after taking things to the church eelders, the bible says treat them as if they unbelievers and the bible says you're not bound to your unbelieving spouse.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
so clear...
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilyflower5576 it is fornication....after all, sex, out of the covenant is.....adultery, and that is different...
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 not under bondage....or not enslaved....use the correct term...
@fredericdechamps2388
@fredericdechamps2388 2 жыл бұрын
But it is written that a man who marries a divorced woman is adulterous (Mat.5:32) What does that mean is this case?
@williamkaiser8490
@williamkaiser8490 4 жыл бұрын
This pastor need to remember that it was Moses in the old testament that divorce was granted and God didn't grant it. Also we are not under the old testament.Jesus never granted divorce.The new testament Jesus says if you think about it you have commited the sin.
@ebenezeramare1
@ebenezeramare1 3 жыл бұрын
He said under adultery, it is ok
@williamkaiser8490
@williamkaiser8490 3 жыл бұрын
​ @Ebey is your King That means that if she committed it before marriage not after. Because no one sleep with a woman before marriage. Divorce was granted if they married and the man found out she had sex before marriage with another then that was reason for granting divorce. if she was unfaithful after they were married divorce was not granted. It was as the word say in Matthew 19:8. Moses permitted divorce Not God or Jesus!
@MrsYoung-in9ov
@MrsYoung-in9ov 3 жыл бұрын
My (unbelieving) husband left 6 years ago and took up with another woman. He would not file so I finally did. Am I in the wrong for filing? Is the sin on my hands?
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamkaiser8490 we agree, except I wanted to point out that it was unlawful to issue a betrothed wife a certificate of divorce for fornication. If found guilty, she was put to death according to the law in Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 23-24.
@drewventura7
@drewventura7 3 жыл бұрын
I won’t lie I do appreciate this perspective despite the fact I hold true to the scriptures dearly. It’s interesting to say that least. It provides great talking points and reveals misconceptions as well as misinterpretations that can be countered with the word of God.
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
What's your understanding of this topic?
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
The divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. However, the wife, in the above scriptures, is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews (that Jesus was speaking to) were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39. Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel. The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death. The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. Christ's death on the cross caused the Jews to become dead to the law of Moses, so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the ordinances of law of Moses as justification, over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the ordinances of the law is no longer possible, for Israel, and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15. Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife. Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned, by an unbelieving spouse, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving those who are abandoned permission to remarry, do not understand the command that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, and that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh, due to one's unbelief, puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, and himself, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command to verses 10-14 in verse 15. Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16. The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions. The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24. Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans, and likewise Luke to evangelize the Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 thank you for your response. I can see your points from scripture. Jesus said "Because of the hardness of hearts Moses commended you to give a certificate of divorce and send her away...." My point is man's hearts are still hard today. There are those who have no interest in living their life according to God's word, they discard and move on like their wife is rubbish... And some even kill. Were hearts hard at the beginning? I just don't understand how a faithful Christian wife married to a man who does not love God or His ways is not able to marry when a non believing Husband divorces her and goes off with another woman. It goes against what the LORD requires of us: Love mercy, seek justice and walk humbly with your God. Micah 6-8 If the man was to stay, forbidden to divorce his hardened heart would cause him to hate her which is as murder anyway! (1 John 3:15) Then there is the case of the adulterous wife. If she does not repent and continues in her sin, is not the marriage bed defiled? She is now one with 2 men?! God when He divorced Israel said he would take her back if she would only ACKNOWLEDGE her sin. And for the record he didn't stone her as was His law. He showed mercy. Of course a Husband should show love and mercy if his wife repents and resumes to walk with God. But if not?! Is not the person who is not God's dead in their sins anyway? Thus DEAD. Allowing the other to be free and remarry? I honestly can not see how two born again Christians can not walk together to have a blessed marriage as they abide in Christ and His word. And for this reason can see that their would be no exemption for divorce or remarriage.... Why would there be?! From all my studies the "exemption" clause makes sense as SEXUAL IMMORALITY. The death penalty no longer is....why... Because the person who continues in sin and does not ACKNOWLEDGE it as sin but continues is DEAD, they do not want God or eternal life. Thus any other reason to divorce is wrong. If you want to be like Christ you won't divorce for burning toast, not in love anymore, bored, etc. You would love as Christ loved the Church. God bless us all as we hunger and thirst for righteousness. Take care.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@maunder01 Jesus also says, "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery." What are your thoughts on what Jesus is saying? Does only the man who marries a divorced woman commit adultery, or do both commit adultery when they marry?
@maunder01
@maunder01 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 this is another scenario again.
@JasonAdank
@JasonAdank 4 жыл бұрын
all these divorced people apparently forgot the oath they took before God when they got married the first time. You violated your oath to God and by remarrying you are rejecting Him. Stop sugar coating it. Youre living in sin. If youre remarried, get divorced again, pray for forgiveness and either get back to your fist husband/wife or remain single and let God be your spouse
@bosstalksports4916
@bosstalksports4916 3 жыл бұрын
That don’t even make any sense. So commit another sin by “divorcing “ that spouse to ask for forgiveness for the first divorce? 😂😂😂 how about you ask for forgiveness and allow God to show you grace. And stay married and committed to the person you just married. You can’t undo sin by committing another sin lol
@tekajohnson3514
@tekajohnson3514 3 жыл бұрын
Amen your so right. I think this remarriage stuff it's just for sex in the fear of being lonely
@JasonAdank
@JasonAdank 3 жыл бұрын
@@tekajohnson3514 Yeah, I agree. And look I totally understand peoples feelings in this matter. Its a painful reality, the thought of being alone on this physical world for life. Its not something I wish upon anyone. BUt we need to see the Word for what is is, not what we wished it was. The marriage oath is plainly clear. As was Yeshua's and Pauls words on the matter. Im sorta in this boat myself. 50 years old, never married, no kids. Yes, Ive fornicated in my life, but Ive always wanted to have that 50s style nuclear family which seems like a far away dream at this point. Ive only had 4 girlfriends in my entire life, and I made a lot of bad choices.. fallen away from the faith a few times. Always dated outside the faith which was a dumb idea. And I was extremely afraid Ill end up marrying the wrong person or someone who doesnt truly share my values and Ill end up divorced (like literally everyone else in my family, Im the only conservative in a family of far left liberals) I still have physical needs too though. And sometimes its really borderline unbearable. I hate it. But it is what it is. I want to be obedient to the Lord, and so single I remain. At my age, there's literally no options within the church. Ive had to come to terms with the fact that I may be one of those people who was just never destined to be married. But this I know for sure in my heart. My conscience tells me so. Marriage is for life. Its just like the oath says. For richer of for poorer, sickness and in health, for as long as you both SHALL LIVE. Divorce sucks, but if it means being single, well take consolation knowing youre following the Word and make peace with it.
@tekajohnson3514
@tekajohnson3514 3 жыл бұрын
@@JasonAdank pray that God will bless you with what your heart desires. I pray that God will prevail over your life. I think it's never too late especially for a man to get married and have children. Remember God's ways are not our ways his thoughts are not our thoughts and God has no limits. so how we might think is too late for something God will show up and show out. And you know it takes a brave man to say they're wrongs but you did more than that you wrote it out. That is very brave of you and I can tell that you have a great heart ❤️. And we all have sin and fallen short of the glory of God that's what we needed Jesus for. You know our righteousness is nothing but filthy rags. Thank you King Jesus for dying on a cross for our sins. I pray joy peace and blessings over your life in Jesus name amennnnn
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@bosstalksports4916 in Ezra, does it say they repented by putting away their sinful marriages, or that they sinned?
@MB-gd6be
@MB-gd6be Жыл бұрын
The main question which Must be asked is, why is Matthew the only Gospel, and place that there is the "exception clause"? Neither does Paul (And the Holy Spirit) mention it in his writings.
@grant2149
@grant2149 Жыл бұрын
Excatly. There is No divorce and remarriage it will remain Continous adultery. The exception was Fornication( Jews engagement) once consumated only death severes the covenent. Luke and Mark has No exceptions written to Gentiles( Us)
@sappsour6302
@sappsour6302 2 жыл бұрын
Can any Christian out there please pray for me that my husband and i go back together I need help please I am crying right now writing this
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the faith dear sapp Sour... God wants this restoration... it is so important not to give up He really needs to come back to the Lord first so he can be loving and forgiving to you.
@twinkleshakil7837
@twinkleshakil7837 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you. You will together in Jesus name Amen
@parishamilton99
@parishamilton99 5 жыл бұрын
Divorce is not ok with the Lord, it dont matter the situation on why a divorce happened. No, you can not remarry either be single or go back to your spouse. Followers of Christ should understand this
@kcirtapecreip4155
@kcirtapecreip4155 5 жыл бұрын
he did give the out of fornication, but it's supper narrow. if you are to be married and you find out your spouse was not honest about there virginity then you have a one off chance right from the start to call it off. if you don't call it of right from the start then you haven't got a leg to stand on. Once the marriage is set it's till death.
@parishamilton99
@parishamilton99 5 жыл бұрын
kcirtap ecreip i dont think being a virgin have anything to do with stying married as much as I would tell the next generation to keep their vigintity, once you are married (virgin or not) you have to stay married. Sexual Immorality (cheating) is what you can divorce for I believe.
@candyluna2929
@candyluna2929 5 жыл бұрын
So if you are being abused...you cant divorce?
@parishamilton99
@parishamilton99 5 жыл бұрын
CandyCandy short answer, no. Even though marriage is a beautiful thing, we have to realize that God gives us the authority to do what we want and make to make our own decisions. I believe that when you make a decision without God intervention (especially marriage) you will get horrible outcome like that. It doesnt makes God word or commandments wrong instead makes us as humans realize thay we need God even more.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtfike If you're referring to the rich man in Matthew 19:16-24, where in that chapter anywhere does Jesus say he had a wife?? I've read my KJV, NKJV, AND ASV and see no mention at all that the rich young man has a wife or is married. Let alone to leave her behind and follow Jesus. Are you using an obscure Bible?
@artflores9280
@artflores9280 2 жыл бұрын
My wife married twice 1st abusive 2 nd husband a cheater ! I pray 🙏🏽 God has mercy on our souls
@mohlamonyanealbert3532
@mohlamonyanealbert3532 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@whotknots
@whotknots 2 жыл бұрын
I notice you made no reference to scripture when you said "so divorce and remarriage are permitted" because although I am not adept at memorizing specific numeric references in The Scripture I do remember the content of God's Living Word accurately in my own way. Consequently I clearly remember the passage when Jesus addresses the disciples with regard to the subject of Marriage and Divorce and states words to the effect; "Although the elders wrote certificates of divorce I tell you this, divorce is only permitted in the case of marital unfaithfulness (adultery) and any man who sleeps with a woman so divorced causes, her, to commit adultery". There is, no, gray area there, no room for interpretation or any other form of latitude because it is extremely, concise and specific. Whatever else anyone may choose or want to think regarding this, it is unequivocally clear that if divorced women remarry but are not reconciled with their husband in doing so which is to say they sleep with another man in consummation of a marriage then such men, cause such women, to commit adultery and both sin. Pursuant to this divorce is only, permitted in cases of infidelity and remarriage is only, permitted if a woman is reconciled to her husband. My brother in-law is a retired Minister of God with children who have divorced and remarried and while discussing this subject with him he made reference to a statement attributed to one of the disciples (Paul) which conflicts with what is attributed to The Messiah. Surely however any statement or teaching attributed to The Messiah who is without sin must, exert over-riding influence on the undoubtedly more carnal interpretations of any carnal man which is to say someone not conceived by The Holy Spirit because all, carnal men have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God which is why the Messiah sacrificed himself. No one, should contrive to interpret scripture in order to corroborate what people want to hear no matter how noble or compassionate their motives may be. They should instead teach what The Word Of God states rather than stretching possibilities inherent to 'suggestion' and 'implication' to a point where they are so transparent their fallacy is obvious.
@jeffburton4576
@jeffburton4576 2 жыл бұрын
So. What about divorce prior to accepting christ. I'm remarried for 22 years after meeting christ. I also preach and teach. Some churches will not allow me to preach or teach because of prior marriage. God forgave ALL my sins and man trying to supercede God.. So honestly what is your thoughts
@josefjking308
@josefjking308 7 ай бұрын
Can I get a divorce if my spouse commits adultery? Never! Can I get a divorce if my spouse is abusive to me? No! Can I get a divorce if I no longer love my spouse? Absolutely not! Can I get a divorce if my spouse has abundant me? No, you can't! So, under what circumstances can I get a divorce? Absolutely none. The Bible is absolutely clear; only death can't dissolve a marriage In God site! Our only option is to separate from our spouse and stay single. If things get better between our spouse and us soon, we can get back together! (1 Corinthians 7:10-11, Bible. But what about the exception in Matthew 5:31-32 and Matthew 19:1-9? There is no exception in Matthew’s gospel: Once you are married, you are married for life. The exception in Matthew has nothing to do with people who are already married.
@LFR0705
@LFR0705 7 ай бұрын
This is the most illogical thing I did not understand about Christianity. One wrong decision and I have to remain single for another 30 years. Now I understand why nobles used to kill their wives in the past.
@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu
@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu 7 ай бұрын
And you want people to believe this book which traps humans😂😂🤝
@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu
@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu 7 ай бұрын
Exactly why Christianity is wrong. How can people still say this faith is correct when it prevents you from ever moving on and be happy​@@LFR0705
@brothacarllovesjesus
@brothacarllovesjesus 4 жыл бұрын
DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE Type A or B. It is written, “And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.” - 1 Corinthians 7:10, 11 A. The Moses precept of Divorce applies in grace. B. The Moses precept of Divorce is now void and marriage in grace is like God put together in the beginning.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
What the man in this video is not sharing is that the betrothed (engaged) during the time of Christ were called husband and wife from the moment they signed the marriage contract to the wedding night. What is also missing from his explanation is that the story of Joseph and Mary offers proof of this because Joseph was told to take Mary as his wife even though she was still his betrothed (engaged) virgin bride. Luke 2:5-7 makes it clear that she was still a betrothed virgin and not a one-flesh covenant wife. This is also confirmed by Matthew 1:24-25, which says, "24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." The man in this video also neglects to mention is that Matthew 19:1-12, and Mark 10:1-12 are the same teaching on the same day yet the "cause of fornication" is not mentioned in Mark's Gospel. The simple explanation for this is that Mark's Gospel was written to the Gentiles who knew nothing about the Law of Moses. The last but most important link to why Matthew was speaking to the Jews in chapters 5, and 19 are because they mention the requirements of the law in Deuteronomy. What the man in the video is not making anyone aware of is that Joseph was a follower of the Law and that he was going to put Mary away with a bill of divorcement in accordance to Deuteronomy 22:13-21. This was the old covenant allowance for a man to divorce his espoused (engaged) wife for fornication unless she could prove that she was one-flesh with her husband by the tokens of her virginity. If she were innocent of fornication she could not be divorced but if she was unable to produce the tokens of her virginity she was subsequently stoned to death.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas not according to Deuteronomy 22. Have you read that chapter?
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Deuteronomy 22 King James Bible Various Laws 1Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother. 2And if thy brother be not nigh unto thee, or if thou know him not, then thou shalt bring it unto thine own house, and it shall be with thee until thy brother seek after it, and thou shalt restore it to him again. 3In like manner shalt thou do with his ass; and so shalt thou do with his raiment; and with all lost thing of thy brother's, which he hath lost, and thou hast found, shalt thou do likewise: thou mayest not hide thyself. 4Thou shalt not see thy brother's ass or his ox fall down by the way, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt surely help him to lift them up again. 5The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. 6If a bird's nest chance to be before thee in the way in any tree, or on the ground, whether they be young ones, or eggs, and the dam sitting upon the young, or upon the eggs, thou shalt not take the dam with the young: 7But thou shalt in any wise let the dam go, and take the young to thee; that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days. 8When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any man fall from thence. 9Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled. 10Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together. 11Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together. 12Thou shalt make thee fringes upon the four quarters of thy vesture, wherewith thou coverest thyself. Marriage Violations 13If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, 14And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: 15Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; 19And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: 21Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. 22If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. 23If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. 25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. 30A man shall not take his father's wife, nor discover his father's skirt.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas notice that in Deuteronomy 22:24 the betrothed damsel (virgin) is called wife. This is consistent with Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9.
@kcirtapecreip4155
@kcirtapecreip4155 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 good response to a railer. I'm not even sure where he was coming from with his accusations. they sounded nonsensical to me.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@@kcirtapecreip4155 it's a sad state that churches are now in. These are the typical scriptural acrobatics that we have all been exposed to, and led astray by. Like the man in this video, who is twisting these scriptures in order to say what brings all of the divorced and remarried people coming to his church with tithe money in hand. When you are living in a state of adultery, against the clear scriptures, you are willing to do whatever necessary to find peace. So many are willing to follow a false gospel at any cost if they can remain in their adulterous unions. We, as followers of Christ, were never under the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 24:1-4, and those who choose to keep this law will be judged by every law they cannot keep. Romans 7:4-6 is very clear.
@southafrica719
@southafrica719 2 жыл бұрын
Many reasons that will permit divorce, but you can Not remarry for as long as the person you where married to, then you are bound to death.
@jamesbailey8362
@jamesbailey8362 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't make sense at all because there's only one unforgivable sin from what I've read so your not continuously on adultery pray ask forgiveness your forgiven
@Jesusbride515
@Jesusbride515 4 жыл бұрын
For all the people living in divorce and remarriages and other sexual sins… Please please please turn away from them and get out of them. And turn to Jesus with all your heart. Put faith in him and realize he paid the fine. Believe and keep believing. He is the son of God, He came to die for our sins. He paid the price with his shed blood. “For if we go on willfully and deliberately sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice [to atone] for our sins [that is, no further offering to anticipate], but a kind of awful and terrifying expectation of [divine] judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE and BURNING WRATH WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES [those who put themselves in opposition to God]. Anyone who has ignored and set aside the Law of Moses is put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much greater punishment do you think he will deserve who has rejected and trampled under foot the Son of God, and has considered unclean and common the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and has insulted the Spirit of grace [who imparts the unmerited favor and blessing of God]? For we know Him who said, “V ENGEANCE IS M INE [retribution and the deliverance of justice rest with Me], I WILL REPAY [the wrongdoer].” And again, “T HE LORD WILL JUDGE H IS PEOPLE.” It is a fearful and terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God [incurring His judgment and wrath].” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:26-31‬ ‭AMP “Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. You say, “I am allowed to do anything”-but not everything is good for you. And even though “I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything. You say, “Food was made for the stomach, and the stomach for food.” (This is true, though someday God will do away with both of them.) But you can’t say that our bodies were made for sexual immorality. They were made for the Lord, and the Lord cares about our bodies. And God will raise us from the dead by his power, just as he raised our Lord from the dead. Don’t you realize that your bodies are actually parts of Christ? Should a man take his body, which is part of Christ, and join it to a prostitute? Never! And don’t you realize that if a man joins himself to a prostitute, he becomes one body with her? For the Scriptures say, “The two are united into one.” But the person who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with him. Run from sexual sin! No other sin so clearly affects the body as this one does. For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body. Don’t you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-20‬ ‭NLT One Thessalonians four clearly says that you have to be sexually pure to go in the rapture. Luke 16:16 through 18 says divorce and remarriage is adultery Divorce and remarriage scriptures Proverbs‬ ‭6:26‬ ‭NLT‬‬, For a prostitute will bring you to poverty, but sleeping with another man’s wife will cost you your life. “And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:2-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10-11, 39‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:18 KJV “For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:2-3‬ ‭KJV Jesus is coming soon, please repent
@caseychupinski7553
@caseychupinski7553 2 жыл бұрын
So, from what I gather from scripture, and the various teachers in my life, is that like this brother said, divorce is never the ideal, but indeed there is an exception clause. Not only that, but in the new testament there is provision for remarriage, and I'm pretty sure it states that if there is no possibility of reconciliation, that remarriage is acceptable. Also that if a person remarried, they should not divorce, even with their former spouse still living. I do want to make it clear, I am not advocating for either divorce or remarriage, but I am saying the word of God gives us counsel on the matter. I don't think there would be so much debate on the issue if there wasn't a Grey area to debate within, because there are other areas where the Bible is very clear on how we are supposed to approach things like sin in general, and spreading the gospel, and being uncompromising in our faith. But this shouldn't be something that divides us, we should be able to come together as family in christ to work it out, and allow the spirit to lead us in this matter.
@Urbankungfu61
@Urbankungfu61 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that there is a difference between “divorce” and “separation” with “separation” as the alternative for sexual immorality and desertion. As far as divorce is concerned doesn’t the Bible say that God HATES divorce? Then why would He permit it?
@aarich119
@aarich119 3 жыл бұрын
God hates all sin. None of it is permitted but forgiven through the blood of Jesus. If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, Deuteronomy 24:1‭-‬2 NIV
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
Two points to this: (1) An indefinite separation does not have any precedent in Scripture. If you're going to live apart from your spouse with no plans to return, then you might as well divorce. Indefinite separation is often an inadequate remedy to some marriage-destroying sins. (2) While I don't mean to be pedantic, God does NOT hate divorce. It's treachery and abuse that God hates, not divorce. Malachi 2:16 has often been mistranslated in the English language. That verse in the ESV reads as follows: For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the Lord, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the Lord of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless. The NIV as revised in 2011 reads similarly. Also, the Original KJV said God hates "putting away", not divorce. The two are not the same. Don't get me wrong: I"m not one of those KJV-only types. I never understood why some people believed the KJV was somehow the gold standard of biblical translations, especially when it got Mal 2:16 so wrong. To the original point: Even if the undisputed translation was "God Hates Divorce", that still wouldn't mean divorce is a sin, only that God hates it. The Lord might not be a big fan of bank foreclosures, prisons, or the city dump either - but would any reasonable person argue that it is a sin to have these things?
@Urbankungfu61
@Urbankungfu61 2 жыл бұрын
@@dh605x Sir, divorce and remarriage causes adultery and those that commit adultery cannot enter the kingdom of God. God’s word is plain and straightforward. His word is infallible.
@dh605x
@dh605x 2 жыл бұрын
@@Urbankungfu61 Then I have two questions for you: (1) Was adultery lawful under the Mosaic Law? (2) If not, do you have an explanation for Deuteronomy 24:2?
@Urbankungfu61
@Urbankungfu61 2 жыл бұрын
@@dh605x Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
@claudiushedrington752
@claudiushedrington752 5 жыл бұрын
The protestant view and what you seem to adhere to is and will always be WRONG ! Think about it , Almighty God has always been consistent , while addressing the heathen king Herrod , John the Baptist lost his head why? his brothers wife did not like God's message. Death and death alone breaks that union, and if the unbelieving departs , the believer should remain alone unless the spouse who left reconciles or death of the spouse who left. Till death do you part.
@The12thSeahorse
@The12thSeahorse 5 жыл бұрын
Easier said...then done. Relationships can be broken, or hurt, or mis-understood. The scriptures say what they say....but people can find it difficult to live on their own...that why they resort to remarriage, the issue here is not so cut and dry.
@Candaicelovesjesus
@Candaicelovesjesus 5 жыл бұрын
My bible says: 1 Corinthians 7:15 KJV [15] But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases : but God hath called us to peace. Not sure what you’re saying in the above comment. Please explain.
@The12thSeahorse
@The12thSeahorse 5 жыл бұрын
HelloSomebody -In a nutshell the Christian may separate (divorce) or depart from a relationship (marriage) (due to difficult circumstances) and may re-marry if the other spouse becomes deceased. But what happens in today’s world is that many Christians are divorcing (for whatever reason) but then go on to remarrying ...the scriptures don’t endorse remarrying unless the other spouse becomes deceased.
@Candaicelovesjesus
@Candaicelovesjesus 5 жыл бұрын
The12thSeahorse I agree that divorce is not permitted for just any and everything. However, divorce is permitted when a person came to Christ and his/her spouse refuses to accept the christian life. If they unbeliever depart, let him go because the new believer is not under bondage. Is that making sense?
@claudiushedrington752
@claudiushedrington752 5 жыл бұрын
@@The12thSeahorse Check all of scripture my friend, but Almighty God is, and always Cut and Dry .
@TetrisPhantom
@TetrisPhantom Жыл бұрын
This is going to lead a lot of people astray. Divorce is not permitted.
@doglover19601
@doglover19601 9 ай бұрын
But it happens. Permitted or not.
@TetrisPhantom
@TetrisPhantom 9 ай бұрын
@@doglover19601 And it shouldn't. Whether it does or not. Christians have to be above what is and pursue what is ideal.
@doglover19601
@doglover19601 9 ай бұрын
@@TetrisPhantom of course, but some people were divorced before they were Christians.
@TetrisPhantom
@TetrisPhantom 9 ай бұрын
@@doglover19601 Sure, but if they're Christians now, then the rules apply.
@amyleyva1471
@amyleyva1471 7 ай бұрын
Divorce saves people sometimes and they are grounds for divorce for certain sinful acts
@Af99af
@Af99af 2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that if a spouse cheats sexually you can divorce and remarry. Let’s not be ignorant and take scriptures out of context
@paulbourgeois4002
@paulbourgeois4002 Жыл бұрын
This is a sensitive topic. There are so many viewpoints and even after you do a lot of research, you have to be careful to make sure that the scriptures that are quoted are being used in context. If you want to hear the hard truth David Pawson does an excellent job of explaining the scriptures and using them in context and giving the background behind them. All the others have put their own spin on the subject as far as I’ve seen.
@jesseharper7172
@jesseharper7172 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why there is so much confusion in the comments here. Divorce is only every acceptable of in the case of sexual sin. As Dr. Schreiner said, just because it's permitted doesn't mean it's required. SO there can still be reconciliation after sexual sin, and that should be encouraged obviously, but at the end of the day, if there's no ceasing from adultery or an unrepentant heart continues in it, then divorce may be initiated. If a believer is married to an unbeliever, or an unbeliever comes to Christ and their spouse doesn't this alone is still NO reason to divorce. Rather the believer should live in such a way that will glorify God to the the nonbeliever. However, if the unbeliever leaves or abandons the marriage, then the believer is considered free from it and can remarry. Of course death is the only other thing in which remarriage may be sought after. There is none of this "under difficult circumstances" business. That's no reason alone to divorce. The world very often, even our own circles in the church doesn't abide by these guidelines most times, and we should consider ourselves blessed to belong to a God who still forgives even these shortcomings when we mar His created institution for marriage. We should never consider divorce lightly, and we should never trivialize another persons walk through divorce as anything other than a tragedy, regardless of the circumstances.
@ferzinhaN
@ferzinhaN 5 жыл бұрын
You nailed it hard in the head! Sexual immorality must be really disgusting if the Lord Himself reconsider divorce in that part.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
Where is any instruction to remarry in the scriptures?
@gretchenbaskerville8067
@gretchenbaskerville8067 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 It's implied. The concept that people wouldn't have remarried in Jesus' time would be unthinkable to people of Jesus' day. It was almost required in farming societies. Jewish men were required to replace themselves by having at least two offspring. The average life expectancy was age 48, so you remarried fast and had children as soon as possible. In fact, it was a Roman law that widows had to remarry within 24 months and divorcees within 18 months. So I think this is one of Jesus' many uses of hyperbole. Just like you wouldn't poke out your eye in real life due to lust.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
@@gretchenbaskerville8067 I think Jesus is being very literal when he taught that. Which is better? I think heaven with no eyes. He was showing the seriousness of remaining in sin because the wages of sin is death. Paul was specific when he said that a remarried woman, who still has a living one-flesh covenant husband, is an adulteress, and when he said that adulterers would not inherit the kingdom of God.
@gretchenbaskerville8067
@gretchenbaskerville8067 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajlouviere202 Martin Luther and John Calvin allowed both parties to remarry. They saw the adulterer as "dead" and so the innocent party was free to remarry. (A dead person can do whatever they want in Luther and Calvin's mind.) The English Reformers allowed multiple reasons for divorce beyond adultery and allowed remarriage, and so did the Puritans.
@DEEZVIC
@DEEZVIC 5 жыл бұрын
Some people think that if an 18 year old woman gets married, and gets divorced at 19, she should remain unmarried for the rest of her life.
@jtfike
@jtfike 5 жыл бұрын
DEEZVIC maybe she shouldn’t. Why do you care?
@elchalo66
@elchalo66 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus said it . when this situation happen ( it happen to men too) Jesus also said to look for God and his kingdom first and everything else will be added (things that we need, not necessary what we want. ) Being faithful to God will provide the way to endurance anything. your life will be full of blessing.
@tekajohnson3514
@tekajohnson3514 3 жыл бұрын
I think she should or go back with her husband. We have to remember God's ways are not our ways his thoughts are not our thoughts. Remember when Adam sin in the garden God said you will surely die and our flesh was cursed to death. So that's the problem the flesh controlling the flesh desires. When you say remain alone you're basically just saying not able to have sex. so sex becomes a main priority. But no amount of sex should equal to your soul going to hell it's not worth it. Marriage is a ministry that glorifies God. When she got married she didn't just make a covenant with him she made it before God who was in heaven. So my opinion is focus on a different ministry that brings God's glory. Fast and pray on behalf of your spouse because God said you're one flesh. Jesus is a prime example he is the groom coming back for his bride do you think that Jesus would divorce US.
@NickVTA
@NickVTA 3 жыл бұрын
That's also why He said count the cost .. His standards are not easy.
@cakecake2539
@cakecake2539 3 жыл бұрын
Well some people is perfectly fine being alone : nuns. I want to follow Jesus and Paul. So im okay being single
@emmanuelameyaw9735
@emmanuelameyaw9735 3 жыл бұрын
Scholars can't interpret the bible...they can only say their opinions. The holy spirit is the best teacher. He teaches the truth and not opinions
@bold58
@bold58 2 жыл бұрын
1. It appears that the perpetrator of the divorce does not have the right to remarriage Mark 10:10. 2. 1 Cor 7 seems to indicate that the innocent victim of the divorce ie , adultery , abandonment , has the right to one second chance.
@graceg2222
@graceg2222 2 жыл бұрын
Like the end of this video, if you committed adultery then divorce your spouse and you are permitted to remarry( not encouraged), but lots of people using this ( or interpret in their own way), just commit adultery first so that they can divorce their partner. Then what pastors would say it about the situation? Church should still bless the cheaters?
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Really no excuse for divorce and no scriptures that say you can remarry except of your spouse dies. The exception in Matt 19 does not apply in today´s world. At the time Jesus spoke these words .. at this time in history and in His culture.. engaged couples were considered husband and wife even though there had been no wedding yet or consummation... sooo that is why the word fornication (coming together before the wedding and consummation) was grounds for divorce. That is why Joseph used the word divorce... he did not say separation. But once there is a wedding and they come together then they are ONE and divorce is forbidden.
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 4 жыл бұрын
Remarriage while the ex spouse is still alive is sin. Divorce is only optional if sexually immoral is committed by a spouse, permitted, but not encouraged. Notice it doesn’t say continuous sin, it says if you remarry you commit adultery. The action of marrying another is the sin. Repent of this sin, and stay committed to your second spouse . Deuteronomy 24.
@subjecttochrist
@subjecttochrist 5 жыл бұрын
nice explanation of a spiritually sensitive/important topic; maybe consider giving a short answer at the beginning then giving the explanation, toward the end. kind of 'cliff-hangy' throughout.
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 5 жыл бұрын
That's because it attempts to bring believers back under subjection of the law (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) in Deuteronomy 24:1-4.
@kcirtapecreip4155
@kcirtapecreip4155 5 жыл бұрын
because if he had stated his conclusion at the beginning it would have been plain to all that he is a liar. the devil's servants are more subtly than that.
@robinleslie8066
@robinleslie8066 5 жыл бұрын
Some say if their spouse commit adultery they can divorce and remarry.. ok well if the next person who u supposedly marry commits adultery should u divorce and remarry again ? No friends thats confusion.. people get emotional over these issues cause of remaining in celibacy but hey God can keep u without sexual intercourse. He can chasten that spouse who is playing around and bring them back.. you dont need to go divorcing and remarrying everytime there's some issue. Remain faithful God will keep u, i know its hard cause the only time remarriage is permitted is only if one spouse happen to die.. but hey this walk is hard we must endure count the cost we are soldiers for God. Be strong brethren
@wisdomsfruit
@wisdomsfruit 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, we must endure to the end. Through the Messiah, to our Good Father, we are far stronger than we know ourselves to be.
@magalydeleon557
@magalydeleon557 4 жыл бұрын
Amen. It’s not easy that’s why Jesus told us to carry our cross and follow him, but he also promise to be with us till the end.
@michaelmakinney20
@michaelmakinney20 4 жыл бұрын
You’re right: marriage is for life. But why? Well, when Jesus said, “Consequently, they are no longer two but one flesh,” Matthew 19:6, He meant it. And Leviticus tells us that “the life of the flesh is in the blood,” Leviticus 17:12. So, it is a covenant/ sacrament of God that ends when blood stop glowing through the veins of one of the two.
@bosstalksports4916
@bosstalksports4916 3 жыл бұрын
For it is better to marry than to burn
@michaelmakinney20
@michaelmakinney20 3 жыл бұрын
@@bosstalksports4916 yes
@yeshumassy2600
@yeshumassy2600 2 жыл бұрын
So pity on this so-called teacher , listen “ Unless you forgive ? I will not forgive” says God Himself , this clears the air that there’s no room for remarry but can wait upon The Lord . Remarriage is only permitted for young widows. Weak people- we live for Christ not to remarry and again remarry and again remarry . Plz grow up !!! Once married meaning ? Both people made a holy covenant before God!!! A covalent can never broken but only violated before the Holy God. So be careful before twisting His Own Words . Prayers for all the hurt and divorced people- stay strong in The Lord
@theunveiledchristian6866
@theunveiledchristian6866 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN...that's true...remarriage is really and Adulterous act..
@digjunk3d
@digjunk3d 8 ай бұрын
The view concerning Joseph and Mary becomes quite a bit more persuasive when compared to Deut 22:28
@standfirm2070
@standfirm2070 4 жыл бұрын
Your really trapping people in hell read Romans 7:1-3 God does not permit remarriage. I say this out of love for God to always speak his truth and out of love for you that you not be decieved.
@dustinduffie4409
@dustinduffie4409 4 жыл бұрын
Marriage Is Forever Most Of Our Grandmas And Grandpaws Stayed Married Why Cant We Brother ILoveThis Keep It Up
@RyanREAX
@RyanREAX 4 жыл бұрын
Remarriage if spouse passes away. You can remarry in the Lord
@Mr.Quibble
@Mr.Quibble 2 жыл бұрын
This is what the Bible says about sexual sin or desertion as reasons to divorce. There are other reasons for divorce not mentioned in the Bible. For example, mental or physical abuse. There are cases when a person must divorce a spouse because they are no longer safe in their marriage. This is not a case of desertion, but of self-preservation. I appreciate the idea that we have godly pastors and counselors who can contribute love and wisdom in such situations. This may be one of those times when godly counsel is needed.
@alicia4him1
@alicia4him1 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Quibble... You are correct to say a wife or husband should separate from an abusive spouse to protect themselves and any children they have....but look carefully again... they can not divorce. The two became one... it is a deep permanent ONE that happens when they marry... That is why God is against remarriage unless the other has died.
@Mr.Quibble
@Mr.Quibble 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicia4him1 Thank you for your comment. I believe the Bible doesn't address every single problem people may encounter in life. For example, does the Bible address pornography or abortion? No. But the Bible says many things that we can use to deduce that God would not be pleased with pornography or abortion (though in some cases abortion is justified). So, we conclude that pornography and abortion are not God's first choice for people. Divorce is not God's first choice either. This is what the Bible is telling us. The Bible shows that God wants marriages to be successful from many passages. Staying married is what is best for families and for society when a marriage is healthy and people can work out their problems with kindness and civility. If a marriage is unhealthy, depending on why, it may be unwise to expect it to work, improve, or change. In such cases, separation and annulment or divorce are are an acceptable alternative, because marriages can become danger zones for a spouse, and because they are legally binding, and this may create problems for individuals in the future. Nevertheless, I appreciate your heart and I agree with your perspective most of the time.
@williesmall3855
@williesmall3855 3 жыл бұрын
The only unforgivable sin is blasphemous of the holy ghost
@nestea1278
@nestea1278 3 жыл бұрын
False! All unrepentant sins are unpardonable. If you are in a remarriage when your first covenant spouse is living, it is called adultery according to Jesus. To repent, you must confess and forsake the sins.
@redeemedforever9614
@redeemedforever9614 3 жыл бұрын
Your right i am divorced and know that i cant remarry. Its not easy but hell is forever.
@retrovcr777
@retrovcr777 3 жыл бұрын
@@nestea1278 Say a person has been divorced to due to adultery. Can that person get married to someone else even if their last spouse is still alive? And if you answer this question can you please provide scripture to back up your claim? I’m just curious, and want to know what is ok to do, or not because the Bible is not very clear to me on this specific situation.
@nestea1278
@nestea1278 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrovcr777 The bible is clear about divorce and remarriage but it depends on the bible version you read. Yes I know that the KJV can be challenging to read but it's the most accurate Bible. Here are some other versions of the bible I would recommend: American Standard version, Revised Standard version. I would use these versions along with the KJV to help with understanding. There are no grounds for divorce, if you are ALREADY married. So no, a person already married CANNOT divorce their spouse and marry a new person for any reason. God says to do this is adultery. It's adultery because the only thing that ends a marriage covenant is death. A marriage covenant is when you make a vow to a person to be their wife or husband and when the marriage is consummated, the covenant is sealed, it cannot be undone. God is a witness of all vows and promises we make to each other and to Him. Genesis 2, Deuteronomy 22, Malachi 2 (*14 but read the whole chapter), Matthew 1:18-25, Matthew 5, Matthew 19, Mark 10, Luke 16, Romans 7:2-3, 1 Corinthians 7 (*39-but read the whole chapter).
@ajlouviere202
@ajlouviere202 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrovcr777 the divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. However, the wife, in the above scriptures, is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews (that Jesus was speaking to) were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39. Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel. The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death. The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. Christ's death on the cross caused the Jews to become dead to the law of Moses, so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the ordinances of law of Moses as justification, over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the ordinances of the law is no longer possible, for Israel, and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15. Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife. Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned, by an unbelieving spouse, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving those who are abandoned permission to remarry, do not understand the command that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, and that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh, due to one's unbelief, puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, and himself, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command to verses 10-14 in verse 15. Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16. The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions. The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24. Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans, and likewise Luke to evangelize the Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
@SaanichtonMinistries
@SaanichtonMinistries 2 жыл бұрын
Never teach that there are exemptions in the Bible for divorce. This is absolutely false. Marriage is until death do you part. If you divorce and remarry…. You do not marry, but commit adultery. The only exemption is in the context of the Jewish Gospel of Matthew where if one fornicated in a betrothal dedication (as was assumed in the account of Mary found to be with child and Joseph) he could have justly put her away and divorced and therefore remarried. So what? Every person and couple who you know is divorced and remarried are living in adultery and in the practice of it. This is bashed on Galatians, they are not inheriting the Kingdom of God. Pastors who remarry and teach the exemption clause loopholes are in danger of hell too. Because again they practice it even as they are one women men. Wise up on this we must
@theunveiledchristian6866
@theunveiledchristian6866 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN. That is true brother
@mohlamonyanealbert3532
@mohlamonyanealbert3532 4 ай бұрын
What about " AND HE WHO MARRIES A DIVORCED, COMMITS ADULTERY, in connection with the betrothal.? Jesus was not stupid because he knew he was answering questions about marriage, not BETHROTED.
@DEEZVIC
@DEEZVIC 5 жыл бұрын
An abusive husband killed his wife because the pastor told her she was not allowed to divorce her husband.
@TheSacredlizzy
@TheSacredlizzy 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff this is a terrible unmerciful Comment. Please check your heart
@jtfike
@jtfike 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth F the original comment was terrible and unmerciful. But per your request, I deleted my response.
@TheSacredlizzy
@TheSacredlizzy 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff 😭😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻
@TheSacredlizzy
@TheSacredlizzy 4 жыл бұрын
Annnnnnnd the Pharisees on this thread have never been abused by a spouse or left. Don’t assume my story. But know that there is NO condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Y’all have looked at another with lust at least once. Adulterers. Thank GOD FOR JESUS
@IsaacSteele
@IsaacSteele 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth F the Pharisees were the ones arguing for divorce and remarriage. Jesus was arguing against it. Those calling people who believe in marriage for life Pharisees have completely missed the point. All sinners should be great full for the grace of Jesus Christ, but if they use that grace to stay in sin, they don’t understand grace. Repentance must involve forsaking the sin or it’s not biblical repentance. If you repent without forsaking your sin, it’s not your past, it’s your present and it’s condemning your future. We don’t tell a prostitute to repent and keep selling her body. We don’t tell a thief to repent and keep stealing. Much less the rapist, the murderer, etc. Is there any other sin we believe you can repent of and keep committing? If you haven’t repented and forsaken your sin, the Bible doesn’t even define that as repentance.
@IsaacSteele
@IsaacSteele 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth F I know many people who were abused by their spouse and left. But they are obeying the Word of God in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 to remain unmarried unless reconciled to their spouse. Two wrong don’t make a right. Nobody is saying to stay in an abusive relationship. Get to safety. But once safe, don’t add your own sin to theirs just because they started it.
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 3 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth F - you clearly don't understand what a Pharisee is. Read Mark 10:2-12 Luke 16:18 Romans 7:1-3 1 Corinthians 7:39
@TheSacredlizzy
@TheSacredlizzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Matthew 23:13 clearly tells us what a Pharisee is , but good try
@TheSacredlizzy
@TheSacredlizzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 what’s wrong with all of you?
@joshbullock679
@joshbullock679 5 жыл бұрын
what church history? the protestant? no one held the 3rd view before the 1500s. We protestants can be wrong on things you know. Also, pornea is used in contrast, not as a synonym, in Matthew with mocheia (adultery). The permanence view or more strict views have much more support before the protestant reformation. this 3rd view has resulted in permissiveness sin our culture, unforgiveness of wayward spouses, and many broken homes and broken children. There is zero reason you cant forgive a spouse for adultery if it means suffering a bit for your kids. forgiveness honors God. Marriage is not a right. a second marriage sure isnt. Marriage is a priviledge. The only exception seems to be in 1 Cor 7 with an unbelieving spouse. That unbelief may manifest itself in adulteries or violence or whatever, thus the need for the Christian church to regain its practice of church discipline. many of these unrepentant spouses may not be Christians. The idea of taking vow with someone and then not being able to forgiven them for an adultery or pornography or even lust (porneia!) seems to be an unChristian idea. I appreciate the Doctor on many things, but disagree with him here.
@FlawedmanServingajustGod
@FlawedmanServingajustGod 3 жыл бұрын
What about the waywardness of men?
@glendike5843
@glendike5843 5 жыл бұрын
You think they are free to remarry is different from knowing or speculating throughout this video. There is no such thing as divorce in the entire bible.It is man made.Exception clause was meant for the Jews in their time and that was before marriage and it was referring to fornication.When you fornicate you are not married.When you commit adultery you are married.So fornication is before marriage.Either you reconcile with your husband or wife,or remain single.Read Gods word and stop playing around with words.Fear Him.He can throw your soul into Hell for eternity.Life is too short to philosophy around.You do not own your life anymore.God is in control,if not then the devil will rule your life and then you can go and remarry.You will be called an adulterer the rest of your life,the church will look down on you and you will continue to look for a pastor like this man to tell you its ok to remarry and go to Hell.
@robertstutler6229
@robertstutler6229 7 ай бұрын
One thing to consider is that Jesus makes this for believers ..look to paul..and see what is a believer..you are not bound to a non believer..quit holding people in sinful relationship when Jesus set them free.
@KillMaster101
@KillMaster101 2 жыл бұрын
He says that divorce and remarriage being permitted is the "traditional protestant view." I wish he cited who supported this. It strikes me as unusual that this would have been the traditional protestant view when divorces seemed much less common in the past - especially in areas where protestant Christianity held significant influence.
@brunofernandespinto9037
@brunofernandespinto9037 2 жыл бұрын
Read the Westminster and Baptist 1689 confessions of faith.
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