What does this REALLY mean?? | Horse Sale Ads

Unsure of what certain terms mean in horse sale ads? I share my take on common words and phrases that sellers use that aren't always straightforward.
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0:00 Intro
0:21 Websites I use
0:54 Buyer beware
1:11 w/t/c; clips, loads, ties, bathes, stands
1:56 Knows his leads
3:06 Acronyms like AQHA; grade
4:20 Push button & schoolmaster
4:51 In your pocket
6:03 Forward
6:54 Intermediate rider recommended
8:18 Green
10:27 Ready to take in any direction
11:10 Goes English & Western
12:03 Temperament scale 1-10
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[@HappieronaHorse]

Thanks for watching! What other terms would you want to see a follow-up video on? 🤠

[@Leo-he3oo]

Your channel has helped me so much!! I’ve owned my horse for a little over a month and your content has really boosted my confidence. 🥰

[@HappieronaHorse]

That’s fantastic! Congratulations on your new horse!! 🥳

[@sarah_max20]

What breed?

[@mrssnow9779]

Your video is spot on. Good job. I just want to add that sellers don't tell you everything! Honesty in horse sales is a rare thing. Be responsible and get that vet check! Show up for you ride 45 minutes early just in case they aced the horse(sedated) look for signs that the horse has been worked-sweaty before you came out. Sometimes sellers will do this to show you a quiet horse when actually the horse is just tired. Secondly know what you want, and know what your limitations are and what you can handle. Green or hot horses aren't for me any more. I am 70 yrs young and still ride-trail mostly with schooling thrown in from time to time just to keep us tuned up.

[@HappieronaHorse]

These are fantastic points Thank you! You’re quite the inspiration!

[@tmh3903]

Horses ABSOLUTELY can be trained to perform in BOTH Western and English styles. They have a higher IQ than people than people understand. My mother was a horse trainer and I showed and owned horses for years. I knew MANY horses which could be ridden in Western equitation classes as well as hunt seat (a type of English riding), and several horses which could be ridden Western as well as saddle seat (another type of English riding). The gaits of basic Western showing are somewhat like the collected gait versions of dressage (for which a modified hunt seat type saddle is used). The difference between Western single-handed (indirect rein) control and direct rein control is something that horses can be taught in less than a week if they're reasonable intelligent, cooperative animals. Western trained horses are normally first trained to direct reining, so really that's not an issue. Posting to the trot may confuse a Western ridden horse initially, but the horse will get over that odd feeling in one training session. If a person can put in time to train a horse in collecting and extending gaits, riding Western and English styles both shouldn't be a problem. Training in English hunt seat show jumping may have a bit of an adverse effect on trying to ride a horse with a Western saddle to do trail riding. Good jumpers actually enjoy jumping and will sometimes perform a jump when a rider isn't expecting it. I had this happen with a 7/8 Arab, 1/8 saddle bred. After I knew he would invariably try to jump small downed trees, creeks and ditches, (rather than simply walking over or through them) I would just prepare for it and be ready to lean forward in the comfy Western saddle whenever we approached such items in the terrain. Even going along with neighbor's quarter horses and my sister's appaloosa which would walk through or over everything, my horse would still enjoy a jump. Our horses were there available to work with and train daily, and we lived on a farm with substantial acreage. They lived outside mostly despite having large box stalls available at all times. So they had plenty of exercise and were conducive to training, not overly energetic from being confined to a barn stall or small paddock. Their long winters coats made them happy to be ridden in the snow. I heard you discuss having a trainer work with your horse for 6 months. Don't make blanket comments about horse training as to what is and isn't possible UNLESS you speak first with an actual trainer. People are listening to you for advice. I hope that you do participate in your own horse's sessions with the trainer regularly. We trained our own horses, which gave us invaluable knowledge as to what they were capable and willing to try and learn. You need to learn some basics from the trainer as a horse should learn some things from their regular riders personally since good performance/ habits need to be reinforced consistently. Good Luck with Your Channel!

[@victoriapurdy143]

I've been riding for years and have owned my gelding for 3 years and I still love your videos. We are always learning!

[@HappieronaHorse]

We are indeed! Thank you! ❤️

[@Amelia-ce8nf]

Really interesting & helpful video, as always! :) A few terms I'd love to learn more about: - Gaited vs. non-gaited horses (I understand the general difference, but how do you decide which is better for you? What are the disadvantages/advantages?) - Being barn/buddy/work sour (What exactly does this mean and tips for preventing it? Once a horse is “sour” in some way, what can riders do to reverse this?) - Not a term, but I’d love to hear how you manage interhorse dynamics, especially with taking Fame on longer excursions like camping trips. Do you test beforehand to see how he will interact with the other horses there?

[@HappieronaHorse]

Thank you! These are fantastic ideas. My wheels are turning now 🤔🤩

[@tmh3903]

As with domesticated dogs, the performance functions of many horse breeds are actually bred into them. Gaited horse breeds were developed to have non-natural gaits for looks as well comfort of the rider. As a first horse or beginner's horse a gaited breed may be more difficult for someone to learn to manage. If you are planning to show the horse, it is noteworthy that the training for some gaited horses is rather cruel with certain methods now outlawed in most states. If there is an available instructor to teach you to manage a Tennessee Walker, Paso Fino or other gaited breed, they are definitely a smooth ride. My father's first horse was a TN Walker, which he semi-rescued from cruel showing treatment(s). So their nice temperaments and smooth rides (easy on the back) can be good for a novice who has breed specific riding lessons available to them.

[@mikeperyam2888]

Another good Vidio there kiddo . As a totally new horse owner I enjoy watching your vids . Very informative

[@HappieronaHorse]

Thank you so much!

[@CactusCowgirl]

Thank you so much for this video!! I’m looking at getting another horse soon and some of these were very helpful. 😃🐴❤️

[@HappieronaHorse]

I’m so glad, thank you and best of luck!

[@loripeaceandlove6391]

Wow! GreatVideo! I found it extremely helpful and educational. Excited for the next video! PeaceAndLove Lori

[@HappieronaHorse]

Thanks Lori! ❤️

[@jup4691]

I love that video, super helful! I love the fact that you emphasize what type of langage beginners should be aware of and recommend them to not go to

[@just_joc]

You forgot "bomb proof".. does this horse even exist?!😆

[@HappieronaHorse]

Haha it’s funny, this came up in another video comment section. I think us Bay Area folks are the most skeptical about it 😆

[@just_joc]

@@HappieronaHorse I guess the closest thing to a bomb-proof horse would be a Mounted Patrol horse!

[@AndyTheCornbread]

Even the most well broke horse can have a bad day or be ridden consistently in such a bad manner that they develop undesirable habits. Just because a horse was well broke doesn't mean it still is and you have to watch for people who don't ride much and are selling the horse "they used to have" not the horse that "they have today". I don't like the term bomb proof because it is subjective to what the horse has been exposed to by their current owner. If you can ride it by new scary stimuli that it has never been exposed to without incident then you "might" have a bombproof horse. Just because you can flag a horse with a tarp doesn't mean it will ride past a pig with no issues etc.

[@hunterjumperprincess3389]

I really love your channel! I just discovered it today! I would have to disagree with you when it comes to the English and western riding. Most of the horses my trainer has are bred to be dressage horses and he starts them off western. He also has brought along a few quarter horses who go both English and western. Any horse can go English or western. It is how the rider Perceives the horse and their energy when they are in the saddle. My OTTB who is 17.2 hands can go English or western. My position and seat stay the same when I ride both as well. Overall though, I really agree with you on a lot of your points you make in your videos. I’ve helped sell a lot of horses for people and the amount of people who just don’t read Ads or are looking at the wrong horse for them blows me away.

[@HappieronaHorse]

Welcome! So glad you’re here. 🤠 Thanks for that input! So many horses at my barn are focused on a single discipline, it’s nice to hear from someone who frequently switches. Yes that’s got to be so frustrating as a seller when you make things plain and people still. Don’t. Read. 😂🤦🏻‍♀️ I hope you’ll stick around, would love to read more of your comments in the future! 👍🏼🤠

[@brendonbewersdorf986]

Thank you for breaking this down it's rather difficult to wade through the various terms people use 😂

[@HappieronaHorse]

My pleasure! 🤠👍🏼

[@horseisle3adventureswithtr719]

that snoring in the background 😆

[@HappieronaHorse]

🙉 i hoped the background music would cover it but alas... 🐶

[@connorroberts7335]

Hands, speeds, genders, and tac maybe

[@shadowshearth6068]

I've never been a fan of the "temperament scale". I had an old cutting horse that, temperament wise, I would have rated as a 2 - very easy to work with, calm, relaxed, confident, very rare spooks (stepped on a hose once and thought it was a snake, but didn't bolt)... but riding wise, I would have rated a 6 - required a lot of rein management, liked to gallop full speed across the pasture, not for beginners. I could easily pony him with a kid on his back and trust that he was going to behave himself, but I would never trust him to be ridden by a kid without a lead attached. I think the most important thing is, never trust a buzzword with a horse. Always ask very detailed questions to ensure you're getting the right horse for you.

[@HappieronaHorse]

This is a great distinction - on the ground vs under saddle. I would give my horse different marks as well. And yess sooo true, so many terms become cliches and everyone thinks they mean the same thing. Thanks for your comment! 👍🏼🤠

[@shadowshearth6068]

@@HappieronaHorse Absolutely! I also think that people need to distinguish temperaments between arena vs. open areas. I've known so many horses that are very well behaved in an arena or round pen, but if you take them out into an open pasture or trail, they act very differently!

[@MyMareFlickaAndFriends]

My arabian mare does English professionaly and she neck reins in western tack and has done barrel racing but if you want you can let go of the reins and use your legs.

[@lemonkid180]

I know a trainer that does do both English and western on her horses and even jumps them a little with only months of training so it is a possibility.

[@HappieronaHorse]

Very cool!

[@djlmarks]

HI, I’m in the process of selling my horse because I’ve got back issues, and. I’ve gained quite a bit of weight. My horse is 16 and was terrific until my back became an issue. I feel that because I was injured seriously enough to not be able to ride for a month or more, my horse wasn’t getting proper exercise. I’ve ridden him a little in the area, but mainly I do ground work with him. He is a lovely and affectionate horse, never bucked or reared, and all the boxes are checked for what a rider would look for, but definitely needs continuous activity. I’ve written a couple of sale ads, but then I keep re thinking them. I just want to find him and wonderful riding partner, and yes, I would recommend that the rider be confident . Any suggestions? Thank you.

[@HappieronaHorse]

Thanks for your comment. I’m sorry you’re dealing with so much! He sounds like a lovely horse and he’s very fortunate to have someone so concerned for his welfare. It sounds like you represent him and his needs well. I imagine you’ve already come up with a video of some kind. If I were selling a horse, I’d be focusing on exposure and highlighting the happy ending someone could have with this horse, his strong points, mention his needs and then do the hard core vetting over the phone or in person. Kind of like online dating 😆 I hope that helps; best of luck to you both!

[@djlmarks]

Thank you Stephanie, I appreciate your input. Luckily I have other women riders that have a lot of experience with selling horses. Oddly enough, my goal is to get a draft cross and just trail ride. So I’m hoping to find one that is a bit older and not too far from where I live. I’ve seen a number of draft crosses online, but they all seem to be across the country, and I can’t seem to find much here in California. We’re you able to find Fame “locally”?. Really appreciate your response, have a lovely weekend.

[@HappieronaHorse]

You’re well-resourced! Fantastic. I’m with you on the draft cross conundrum. I had to fly to OK for Fame. I have seen them pop up in Cali & Oregon, but it does seem more drafts are up north or in the midwest. 😬

[@weaveandwobble]

Do you think breed matters for your first horse? Also, in a test ride, how can you tell if the horse is too much for you?

[@HappieronaHorse]

Such great questions! I answered the first one in today’s video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX6xaYGcrrOnn6csi=ea7WI_JX7NZFWu3U I hope to get to the other one next week. 😃

[@artisifystudios8760]

I’ve looked around and I’ve seen the word or letters “TBD” what does that mean? I see it on a lot of draft adoption sites

[@HappieronaHorse]

Are they referring to fees? TBD usually means To Be Determined.