What Every Girl Needs To Hear: A Response to Lauren Southern

Sorry, Lauren.
Content warning: Some sexual assault discussion
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Lauren's video:
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Stefan's video:
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Studies mentioned:
Wiederman, M. W. The truth must be in here somewhere: Examining the gender discrepancy in self-reported lifetime number of sex partners. Journal of Sex Research
Joan R. Kahn and Kathryn A. London. Premarital Sex and the Risk of Divorce. Journal of Marriage and Family
Adolescent Sexuality and the Risk of Marital Dissolution. Anthony Paik. Journal of Marriage and Family
Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution among Women. Jay Teachman. Journal of Marriage and Family
Abstinence-only and comprehensive sex education and the initiation of sexual activity and teen pregnancy. Pamela K. Kohler, Lisa E. Manhart, William E. Lafferty. The Journal of Adolescent Health

[@hbomberguy]

"What I want every girl to believe"

[@HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA]

Exactly.

[@mrutadasing5173]

You're a national treasure, man loved your last video dude.

[@packguar6617]

MrUtadaSing international*

[@Clarinet_cowboy2000]

My SWeJ overlord!

[@isaak9298]

Pack Guar intergalactic*

[@frickinfrick8488]

Saying underage rape victims are sluts that have been “desouled” is one of the most evil things I have ever heard, holy shit.

[@Dekubud]

That mentality really messes with you when you're a victim. Because of how much our society cares about virginity and "purity", I felt guilty, stained and defiled for most of my life, especially during my teenage years, despite being 2 when I was victimised.

[@frickinfrick8488]

@@Dekubud it’s an absolutely cruel belief and I’m so sorry you had to go through that because of these bullshit ideals. You’re not a lesser human being because of what someone else did to you without your consent and whoever says that is a soulless asshole. Nobody can stain you, I hope you’re doing better now

[@joshmuir8058]

they didn't mean it , was an accident

[@pineapple7024]

@@joshmuir8058 bOyS wIlL bE bOyS

[@joshmuir8058]

@@pineapple7024 that's true haha

[@treeplanter-bv4gw]

Citing yourself as the source for your own data is incredible. I didn't know you could do that! I might actually get my degree now

[@treeplanter-bv4gw]

Hmm hmm could probably make like 700 dollars a month on patreon though, so, it's impossible to say if it's bad

[@GuerillaBunny]

Can get more than twice that if you just wing it.

[@FerociousPaul]

R8.50 Mango You could get twice that much if you get a semi-hot white chick to do all the ranting instead.

[@johannathorn6652]

I love that that website's sourcing was essentially "Source: am website. can confirm" a la reddit posts

[@martinn.6082]

I am actually very rich. Source: Martin Neumann, 2018

[@ashleyrhy5722]

Wow... Saying that a child loses their soul after being sexually assaulted... That's probably one of, if not the lowest thing someone can say.

[@doeydays1490]

Damn, and I thought I only lost my soul after I dyed myself a ginger lol

[@BriarBeeBenson]

@@doeydays1490 What Lauren said really fucked me up and I came to the comments because I was upset and this uh made me smile and giggle a bit when I would have otherwise been in a bit of a mood for the rest of the day so thank you lmao 😅

[@doeydays1490]

@@BriarBeeBenson glad i could help :) !

[@TheSpellShell]

That's why "left" should be more careful with religion, shouldn't welcome religious people with open arms because religion values often perfectly matching with "right"'s. So in a goal to be all-inclusive "left" accepting people with values which directly contradicts ideology. In my country ortodox christians ask woman to have wrap aroung their head and wear long skirts, because they believe that woman tempting man sexually and it's woman's fault. Any progressive left organization shoud ask their followers who has a faith in some non-material stuff to at least reform their views, because we don't need people like that in a movement.

[@TheThiccestChungus]

@@TheSpellShell I think in your case it is more a case of being careful with extremism rather than religion, the way you phrased your comment makes me think you believe that most religions inherently are right, but taking for example the way the Catholic Church has become more moderate and left in the past century, I think it is more so the conservatism religion has historically been affiliated with rather than the assumption that religion is by its nature conservative and even more so the assumption that all or most religious people are conservative due to their religion.

[@Paul-sr6zb]

Imagine being a 22yo unwed, unmothered women lecturing other 20-something women on how they need to get married and have kids.

[@tsunderella5826]

Wait she's 22yo? she's 3 Years younger than me wtf lel

[@magicalmomo9987]

22?? She's YOUNGER than me?? She looks like she's at least 25, wow wow

[@ladydontekno]

I mean it worked for Phyllis Schafly.

[@suides4810]

Magical Momo I also thought that she was in her mid 20s

[@DewMan001]

That's the scariest part for me. She's my age and she's spouting this utter nonsense and perscribing it as **the** healthy way to live. What the fuck happened here? How did this happen?

[@jesswilliams1436]

I also hate the negative stigma against divorce, as if it's a morally repulsive thing to do. I dont see how being forced to stay in an abusive, miserable, or just non compatible relationship is more ethical than taking legal and reasonable steps to take care of yourself. I think access to divorce should be celebrated honestly, as it is liberating to men and women. Or just dont out so much pressure on people getting married in the first place, or idunno. Both.

[@bloodmachine6049]

If anything I think there should be more push-back against marriage, given how arbitrary it is, and how damaging it can be.

[@BigmanDogs]

The problem is that people marry those whom they can't stay together with for the rest of their life. Cultures, where the parents have a bigger say in regards to who their child can and can't marry have significantly lower divorce rates without affecting happiness. Parents in cultures like these also help their child find a partner, instead of having them try to find one on their own. The solution to high divorce rates isn't to force people to stay in bad marriages. It's to make more marriages be good.

[@jesswilliams1436]

IJ OP i am actually in a committed relationship, and i work hard at maintaining it. Ive also worked hard at relationships that were not healthy and i eventually had to get out of for my own well being, which led to the happy relationship im in now.

[@jesswilliams1436]

IJ OP you do that

[@ultrasonic22]

People are not saying it's morally repulsive, it's moreso that marriage is shown to be a good indicator of health and income; and that the decline in married households is a indicator of the decline of our nation. Married households have higher incomes then those who aren't, men and women who are married have higher incomes then those who aren't. There are multiple benefits to marriage, and the decline of it as an instutition is a sign of our decay.

[@ContentWithJeremiah]

Lauren said herself she wished the data wasn’t correct so she’ll be pleased to hear this.

[@MagusSartori]

too bad she had to plan, (research?), shoot, edit, and upload a video on it before finding that out.

[@50HamstersInATrenchcoat]

It's funny and sad bc we all know she won't care.

[@Poltergeist329]

how do people like this make videos without research? also catch-all statements are actually the worst tbh

[@TuAmigoElMorrocoy]

Like roaming millennial she's a pretty girl talking to a mostly male dominated audience looking for female validation. Conservatives are mostly men, so they are pretty much starved for females that agree with them, when they see someone like roaming or Lauren all their critical thinking goes out the window. I think the same goes to Lauren and Roaming. I think they truly believe what they preach, but they have a lot of confirmation bias, and are surrounded by fanboys that mindlessly listen to whatever they say so no one really pushes them to seek the truth. They just live in their own bubble

[@camillastimemachine]

TuAmigoElMorrocoy idk that kind of sounds like a misogynistic statement. Give credit where credit is due: Roaming Millenial and Lauren Southern aren't looking for male validation, they're just wrong. Literally every conservative commentator is surrounded by fans who agree with them. It's not exclusive to female conservatives lmao.

[@Acidfunkish]

How unhappy are unmarried millennial women? We surveyed 30 men. Those kinda vibes.

[@frootlup117]

As a Deaf viewer I would highly appreciate closed captioning. (the auto generated stuff is okay, but there are a few things I couldn't figure out, even with my hearing aids). I also suggest this because people on this side of the political spectrum have a message of acceptance and I'm sure I'm not only Deaf leftist. Just something to consider.

[@danintheoutback1]

frootlup The fact is that all of Shawn’s videos are scripted. So providing closed captions, should be relatively easy to include.

[@KiwiHavok777]

🖕🏿☝🏿🖖🤞👉🤘🏿🖐🏿🦶

[@tessarobins2451]

Bigtombowski Ohhhhh 😂😂😂 I love Shaun’s speaking voice. Sincerely, a Glaswegian. Barely anyone gets us either. But to the original poster, I really hope Shaun reads this. I think closed captions are a great idea!

[@FaliusAren]

@@danintheoutback1 tbh I don't understand what's difficult about doing closed captions in the first place. KZbin's tool for making them is very easy to use. The biggest difficulty in captioning is making out everything the speaker is saying, which is obviously not a problem if you're the one who made the video. It shouldn't take more than 4-5 times the length of the video, *especially* if you have the full script.

[@-homechord-2908]

ADHDer here. Captions are really useful for me to understand what's going on. But they're not vital. For Deaf viewers, captions are vital for content to be understood. (Aka, captions would be wonderful, please!!!!!)

[@Spodumene]

My parents got married and had kids in their mid to late 30’s. If they hadn’t waited, I would have 2 alcoholic parents without their lives figured out. I’m extremely thankful my mom waited to marry my dad, and didn’t rush into a marriage because her “biological clock” was running out. Now they’ve got almost 2 decades of marriage under their belt and are still going strong. Amazing video, Shaun. Thanks for all the great content.

[@Spodumene]

Hildegard von Bingen Regardless, no child should have to grow up with two alcoholic/irresponsible parents.

[@TuAmigoElMorrocoy]

Same, no mom and my dad had me in when my mom was 30, and my sister when my mom was 34. By then both my mom and dad had solid job as engineers, they had their own house with paid off mortgage, and where able to provide me and my sister with the best education. We never lacked anything. Both my parents are very loving towards each other, and we always had a very good example as loving spouses and parents By contrast. My grandma a strict Catholic, had my mom when she was 19, and she had no education and was stuck in an unhappy marriage for the rest of her life, she never divorced because if her religion... My grandma has literally told me "I hope I die soon so I don't have to see your grandfather ever again" ....my grandpa has always been nice to us, but apparently treated my grandma like shit, cheated on her with 15 women and gave her an STD that made her had to get a hysterectomy, and beaten her the odd time. One of my aunt's was very resentful of him (they have made peace since then) don't think my grandma is very happy despite of pretty much doing everything that southern points out. But yeah, this is probably the contrats between an educated woman who waited to settle down, and an uneducated woman who was raised to be nothing but an unconditional wife from a young age... An extremely religious one for that matter. My mom is by all means a career woman, but I think deep down southern knows that being living for other people makes you very vulnerable, this is why Lauren doesn't practice what she preaches, she's in her prime reproductive years and not even a man on sight, but you see a pretty prolific career as a reporter.

[@Mika-ko6gp]

i can relate to this with my parents as well. My mom was in a relationship with a "well-off" as she puts it, guy who she kind of didn't love, but still stayed with because she thought he would be a good provider. She broke up with him after 13 years and decided she wanted to live for herself and be single for a while. She met my dad in her late thirties and they married after only a few years of dating and then had me right after they got married. My parents are still happily together. I also have a friend who's parents have three kids, two cats and have bought a house who aren't married, despite having been together since their early twenties. Marriage isn't for everyone and if you do get married, it's better to do it out of love rather than because you think that this person will provide for you.

[@tati3861]

Same, my mom was 33 when she had me and she's actually a year and a half older than my dad, and they've got one of the happiest marriages I've seen (21 years now).

[@nowyuosee109]

Same. My mum and Dad waited to have me and I’m so glad they did.

[@fun_ghoul]

FEMALE INFIDELITY STATISTICS _Source: Trust us_

[@vinceknox4425]

Paesan Control Centre I’ve been called so many names just for asking white supremacists and misogynists their sources. It’s like they believe anything that confirms their bias without making sure it’s accurate and truthful.

[@ginger942]

Ahahaha

[@zandmaddict2596]

It's kind of low-key disgusting how they conflate the amount of sexual partners as a likely hood of a wife's infidelity.

[@MrSpiritchild]

@@vinceknox4425 Do you actually know any white supremacists, or do you just call them that when they disagree with you? That is after all the leftard way.

[@MrSpiritchild]

@Glenna Smith There are many things in our existence that don't make sense to people, this doesn't mean that they are wrong. I can assure you, those of us that lean more to the conservative side find it hard to make sense out of your beliefs as much as you have a hard time making sense over our ramblings. We can leave the debate on which of us makes the most sense for another time. I would however point out, Laura is an unrepentant white person, IE, she will not apologize for being born without melanin, which is a far cry from being a white supremacist. I don't know what groups you subscribe to, but I would bet you aren't sorry for what ever you are. Does this make you a supremacist?

[@brokengirlsrus]

Thank you for this. I grew up in a strict religious household, was homeschooled, and was taught that sex was only created for reproduction and the man's pleasure. I was taken advantage of as a child by a family member, then was assaulted three times as a teenager, by a family friend, my first boyfriend, then by a friend from my parent's church. I gave up seeking help from my parents because I was told I must have seduced my rapist (AS A CHILD) and was obviously asking for it. This "women who aren't virgin brides are sluts," while men are given a free pass to do whatever mindset is exactly the same kind that perpetuates the misogyny I grew up with.

[@kappadarwin9476]

I'm sorry those things happen to you.

[@paisleepunk]

1. So sorry that s*** happened to you 2. Username checks out so well I can't even comprehend (almost like your suffering...I was talking the non-comprehension, by the way)

[@westonmeyer3110]

It has nothing to do with men’s pleasure.

[@spaghetto9836]

How are you doing now? Absolutely no child deserves that, & I'd wipe away your tears if I could. I hope you're healing as much as you need to, I love you 💓.

[@VaughanMcCue]

You promote an excellent reason to avoid all superstitions as they cloud our judgement. Sadly, you have been abused like this, and my heart goes out to you.

[@emmae6184]

Pretty wack how someone who calls themselves a “libertarian” is going around telling women what to do

[@emmae6184]

Lachs geräuchert Lauren is pretty terrible and she’s obviously a white nationalist lunatic. She’ll never admit it but she is constantly sympathizing with far right extremists and hanging out with people like Tara Mcarthy. I saw a picture of her somewhere where she was wearing a shirt that said “Europe belongs to us” she lives in Canada so what does that mean??? Obviously a dog whistle to the alt right. She is completely authoritarian don’t fool yourself

[@nicksupreme2094]

Same kind of libertarian who claims "respect is earned not given" to justify treating promiscous women and/or sexworkers like they're not human common among the green frogs

[@emmae6184]

nick supreme true Lauren is a female misogynist

[@nicksupreme2094]

Emma Elizabeth quite so, and this point of view I spoke of isn't uncommon these days... sadly

[@emmae6184]

nick supreme to me it seems more prevalent than it was a couple of years ago idk maybe just as many people held these views a couple of years ago but the current political climate has given them more leeway to have this view that promiscuous women don’t deserve respect

[@maxbrosig8986]

"Then what's in the study? - Well, it's just a lot of graphs really." Shaun is somehow able to combine hard and cold raw data analysis with extremely good deadpan humor, it's the best thing I've seen today.

[@dcheverie]

Really? Did you follow the links to the actual studies the blog guy posted? I doubt it. Cause did, and it's a lot more than just graphs.

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

@@dcheverie So? What does it matter that it's more than just graphs if it's bullshit all the same?

[@josieb6880]

The good old "PragerU Strategy"!

[@deadfr0g]

At 7m31s of Lauren’s video: “Promiscuity has devastating impacts on women’s ability to pair-bond and form lasting, stable relationships that she needs for her happiness. And this isn’t a fact that I like! It’s not a fact that I want to be true! I want people to be happy and free to make all of the choices and decisions they want without consequences.” It warms my heart to think of how much joy Lauren must have felt as she realized that all of her sources have been debunked.

[@westonmeyer3110]

They haven’t.

[@Sputterbug]

@@westonmeyer3110 someone didnt watch this video lmao

[@westonmeyer3110]

@@Sputterbug Oh but I have.

[@dinkeykong]

@@westonmeyer3110 you just decided to ignore it and pretend it was wrong?

[@westonmeyer3110]

@@dinkeykong It is wrong. You are the one pretending this dipshit from Germany knows anything about North American life when he clearly doesn’t and doesn’t want to.

[@evamiller4886]

Responding to underage girls being the victims of sexual assault by calling them soulless sluts is legitimately and blatantly evil. No one who is a victim of unwanted sexual contact, man or woman, adult or child has their value as a human being reduced by the experience. Who the hell thinks that way?!

[@TheMrVengeance]

Bhahah! "Links to studies." _Wordpress, Blogspot, Blogspot, Blogspot, Blogspot, Blogspot, KZbin, Wikipedia._ Oh dear.

[@godzillaworks4585]

Wikipedia is ok, its just the *type* of article

[@gur262]

Wikipedia is the probably okayest Form of a source that is not a source. Secondary source? River coming from the source? The more indirect your source is the worse it is because of the layers of interpretation that can dilute the truth that might be in there. If I have a believable study. Great. Wikipedia article based on it... Good I guess. Article based on Wikipedia article.. Meh. Video based on article. Buh.

[@Project-Masculinity]

Let’s believe The Huffington Post and CNN instead ... lol

[@kx7500]

Project Masculinity nice strawman.

[@punman5392]

Project Masculinity they’re 1000x more believable than any blogspot post

[@AgeingBoyPsychic]

"A woman is happiest in the marital home looking after her children" says, single, childless career "journalist" Lauren Braun,,, er I mean Southern.

[@baashaalbaashaal6427]

MycodenameisM dude we all agree that she is not a good person but lets not be like them. She is obviously hypocrite but insulting her would just play to their hand

[@mycodenameism4331]

hOw MuCh YoU wAnNa BeT sHe SuEd BoTh Of ThEm?¿

[@baileyturner428]

She's married and has a kid now though

[@AgeingBoyPsychic]

@@baileyturner428 Does that mean we no longer have to endure her "journalism"? I do hope so. Practice what you preach Lauren!

[@baileyturner428]

Well she's entitled to her freedom of speech and to share her own views, I agree and disagree with some of what she says, like with most people. You don't have to listen to her views if you don't want to though

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

"What Every Girl Needs To Hear" If she ain't just playing Queen on loop, she's wrong.

[@youssefhafid504]

KILLER QUEEN

[@youssefhafid504]

BITES THE DUSTO

[@oof-rr5nf]

Best comment.

[@jessbian3385]

Every man needs to hear Queen as well, and NB people as well... Specifically the best queen song, Under Pressure

[@shortwaveradio923]

Eh, @Jamie, coulda went with Nickelback. Also, nice to see someone who also likes The Glow Pt. II! Love that album!

[@famuel2604]

It's offically true that the Shaun/Hbomb/Contra production cycles are aligned

[@PBDNR]

Lezrleia it's been like that for a while and I hate it, now I will have nothing to do for a month or 2. If only they could pump out the same video every day like a real skeptic would /s

[@incapacitaterd]

Lezrleia Right after the monthly patreon deadline haha

[@rf-uj5sc]

Its a really good idea actually. Quality leftist content all being released at close intervals will garner large gatherings of leftists to discuss. It also makes it harder for the salt right to coordinate disliking/flagging attacks against them all at once.

[@EarthLordCJ]

The Triumvirate of Good Stuff.

[@R0DisG0D]

Well, there's other great leftist youtubers out there. I highly recommend Lindsay Ellis, PhilosophyTube and Mexie.

[@Shinkada]

Hey someone should do a study on how much being a misogynist increases your divorce risk.

[@pianoaddict772]

Only issue is that no one will actually admit to being a misogynist.

[@MrSpiritchild]

@@pianoaddict772 There are lots of women I don't like, but in every case I dislike them, it's because they have shown a lack of character. That's the problem with calling people misogynists, it allows people to shift the blame for their own lack of character onto the people that noticed it. Same can be said for any generalization really.

[@al.the.]

@@MrSpiritchild Lack of character is not _a thing_ And misogyny is quite well defined, if you're not familiar that's *you problem* And it's actually making you misogynistic, as you're implying women* don't know what they're talking about. *[feminists, of all genders, but mostly women] Just reread all that nonsense you wrote but replace women and misogyny with black people and racism respectively, and maybe, just maybe, you'll get it. (Unless you're also a racist, never mind then)

[@MrSpiritchild]

@@al.the. I'm not implying women don't know what they are talking about, I'm implying feminists are psychobabblers, both male and female ones. You don't even know your own origin story, that is in the beginning the suffragettes that started it all already had the right to vote. Based on the laws of the time, high class, the educated and people that served in the military had the right to vote. The various governments of the time had decided that because black men had served in the military they ought to have the same right to vote as other men that served in the military. The matriarchy then decided, oh hell no, no way they would allow black men to get the right to vote before white women did. In other words, the pursuit of alleged resolution of injustice was based on racism and power, not equality. So now feminists equate themselves to the injustices of black Americans as if somehow your suffering was any where close to theirs, in which I call bullshit. The only difference between the male plantation owner and the female plantation owner was that men whipped their slaves with their own hands, so the blood of the blacks is on their hands. While female masters used their white workers to do the whipping for them, so the blood of blacks was at their feet. By the way, thank you for making my argument for me by attacking my character in almost the same breath as denying a lack of character is a thing. I know that I likely won't convert you, but this argument isn't about me or you, and it's result is more for the benefit of witnesses of the debate as opposed for either you or I. I would submit, that anyone that attacks the person in a debate before they address the premise of the debate hasn't got an intellectual leg to stand on. So you prove my point for me, showing that feminism isn't about equality as much as it's about power, a power that is obtained through intellectual dishonesty, social intimidation and political leverage. Welcome to the wonderful world of feminism 3.0. Hitler would be so proud...

[@al.the.]

@@MrSpiritchild Ok, mansplainer. 😅 Edit. 1. Godwin's law, in first reply?! you lost . 2. I didn't attack your "character" - I labeled your attitudes correctly. But you can't realise that, because of your ignorance. And you don't think I could know more, thus proving my point. 3. I'm *not* debating you. I'm informing you. You can act Dunning-Kruger to the max or lower your confidence and go learn some contemporary feminist theory, _source material_ not antifeminists' interpretation of it.

[@randomartist3599]

....I tried Shaun. I really did. I tried to see her video prior yours. But when she mentioned "Your value diminishes over time [...] your sexual market value", I just laughed and clicked off cause my brain couldn't take it. Call me childish and biased but I will just watch your video; saving my brain cells is way more important than showing off how "mature" I am.

[@sambatemansmusic4188]

Random Artist Funny how she criticizes women for being “sluts”, and yet she goes ahead and sexualises them anyway. So does she want women to be sexualised or not?

[@jackmholt92]

Womens sexual marketplace value does diminish over time. Young pretty women are basically worshipped by society. Whereas men's generally increases as they gain status and wealth. What planet do you live on Random Artist?

[@lilowhitney8614]

@@jackmholt92 In a world where a woman's value doesn't depend on how attractive she is to man?

[@jackmholt92]

@@lilowhitney8614 that is fine as long as the woman does not mind being on her own or with a less desirable male

[@lilowhitney8614]

@@jackmholt92 So the only quality that people of all genders find attractive is how wrinkly someone is or isn't (or how much money they have, I guess)? People are also attracted to confidence, humor intellegence. Hell I've seen people crush on someone because of their kindness, their bravery, their sheer competence. None of that is dependent on you or money, and about half of that develops with age.

[@hekatebleble4800]

Conservatives: a marriage is an union between a man and a woman....so let's put all responsibility of its condition on a woman.

[@riley8385]

Conservatives love to put the blame of various stuff solely on women... like pregancy, rape cases, toxic standards of masculinity men impose on each other, etc.

[@AlphabetCookie]

No, absolutely not. Conservatives think the responsibility should be with both. Where did you even get this stupid idea from? Girls are more hurt right now, that's why Lauren helped girls.

[@fy8798]

No, conservatives generally only blame women, with is why conservative fanatics came up with the "incel" concept and excuses the murders incels commit with "women just didn't fuck him :(". Lauren herself, too, solely blames women, and consequently doesn't help girls.

[@BinaBecker]

Lauren "helped girls"? WHEN??? The only thing she's ever "helped" is herself...to some cash proffered by morons.

[@BigmanDogs]

+ Fen Y Where are all these strawman conservatives who sympathise with incels that kill women? I'd say we are less apologetic of them as we aren't as inclined to blame their actions on their environment etc. Incels should hurt themselves instead of women. Let's say we have 20 people, 10 men and 10 women. The 5 most desirable men can alone satisfy all 10 of the women and potentially impregnate all of them. The bottom 5 men are completely unnecessary in regards to producing a new generation of people. These are the incels, they are biological endpoints. There is nothing dysfunctional about this, this is how a society that encourages open and fluid relationships is supposed to function. I personally don't really care about those 5 men who might as well not exist. The only significant problem I see is that these societies are quickly going to cause incest since 50% of the men produce 100% of the children.

[@shadowboxing7029]

When I was 30 I had dudes hitting on me that were much younger than me, the youngest freshly 18 years old. Hell even at 40 now, the last guy to try it was 27. I'm okay looking, nothing to write home about so I imagine this isn't all that uncommon. Certainly my girl friends have experienced it too. It's almost as if Lauren doesn't know any women. She can't even use her own experiences being that she wasn't even 30 when she made it. Hell, isn't even 30 now!

[@erickim6533]

Most people learn from their own mistakes, smart people learn from others mistakes.

[@lobstered_blue-lobster]

Anecdotes aren't evidence, though looking at the Internet I can certainly say there are many men who have that fetish but still you need to link studies/statistics to prove your point.

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

I know this may be anecdotal but my older, attractive cousin sisters get a lot of attention from younger men as well... I suppose it's bcz they are very, very attractive which is what they have in common with younger women.

[@anchess2517]

Lol you as an older woman may preserve your looks and get attention from men but that is sexual attention. They just want to have sex with you. How many of them are willing to commit/marry with you?

[@shadowboxing7029]

@@anchess2517 I dunno man, I can't speak for other older women but I don't preserve shit lol. I don't wear make up, I dress like a tomboy and my skin care routine consists of moisturiser once a day. In any case you could be right, maybe these dudes just wanna bang or maybe they want more, we'll never know. Kinda makes for a case that could go either way yeah? Almost like no one should be making absolute claims.

[@diabreadstick]

Lauren, just because you’ve dedicated yourself to gaining the approval of men doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to do the same.

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

TheLaxLex, you said it men, not women like u so stop complaining

[@KookiesNolly]

it's not even the approval of men, it's the approval of insecure little incels who feel the need to be misogynistic and racist to fill the void in their lives. Real men​ know she is full of shit.

[@godkingtrump7807]

TheLaxLex Even if it makes you happy?

[@bloodmachine6049]

Not approval of men, specifically approval of men who seem to only care about one's superficial qualities.

[@amaka637]

+Eli N.S Took the words straight outta my mouth. Preach it my bro!

[@AlexCab_49]

lauren southern wants women to get married and have kids, though she herself is not married nor has kids. hmmm

[@rust44]

Alejandro Cabrera She was also complaining about people not speaking French in France, despite being Canadian and not knowing French herself. I’m going to guess she didn’t pay attention in school.

[@rottingdog6798]

There was a video about how she was an exception to the rule. Bonkers she is.

[@gazcan1]

Elise M No, she was complaining that the immigrants in France didn’t speak English. twitter.com/21logician/status/886316246500823040?s=21

[@dcon9995]

Alejandro Cabrera In her France video she was complaining about women not wearing their French Braids..... Yes... She's that fking braindead. I'm sure she was expecting them to be eating escargot and carrying baguettes.

[@AlexCab_49]

dcon9995 I'm not surprised.

[@Robbay363]

Ya know it's funny. At around 30 mins when you start talking about the link between poverty and earlier sexual activity I thought "oh that actually makes sense. I could see poverty being a potential cause of earlier sexual activity." That was the first thing I thought and they didn't even consider that. Also Lauren sounds like one of those creepy incels when she talks about "sexual market value".

[@merbst]

They did think of that, much like all of the correlation vs. causality tricks played with drug use data, they ignore the plausible arguments because its not what they get paid for.

[@redemptionhappens7725]

She IS a creepy incel. I don’t care how young & pretty she thinks she is. She’s a know it all, judgmental etc . Know it alls are emotionally repulsive and can’t get laid. Who the HELL would want her?

[@mikaelgaiason688]

I can confirm. As a guy who grew up poor af I can testify that my sexual activity started before I was even old enough to fully climax or for my partners to need a bra

[@keyboarddancers7751]

*Rob Bay* The "sexual market value" thing is not a conscious thing. She's merely talking about fundamental physical attractions. A woman in her twenties might regard men her own age up to maybe mid to late thirties as having a good SMV. She's hardly likely to place a similar SMV on a guy in his fifties, is she. She'd be a damned fool to dawdle and leave things til her late thirties to decide on settling down; that's cat food territory!

[@mommaneganhobbystuff2409]

Since she was a kid, she always dreamt of being a pimp, but that only remained a fantasy apparently

[@Pizza653]

As a young woman who is shockingly a *non-Vrigin* and who sadly was fooled by Lauren's video 3 years ago and got a lot of anxiety and fear from it back then, I just want to say: Thank you for this video. My values have already changed a lot from back then, but it just felt cathartic to have this video especially get thoroughly debunked

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

hope you are doing well. Live your life best you can.

[@manuelmateo3392]

Sure it does.

[@BagelBagelB1]

So glad for you, wishing you the best

[@imsotiredofthiscrap2341]

@@manuelmateo3392 "you feel a certain way? surrreee you do" thats literally how you sound lol. a feeling isn't even something you can prove wrong and be snarky about because it's just a feeling. like, you can't "debunk" a feeling lmao. i don't know why you thought "yeah, this comment makes perfect sense."

[@pipersmitty87]

you got fear and anxiety from a video?? lol

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

Holy shit that _"list of _*_studies"_* absolutely killed me, I don't remember when I last laughed this much.

[@patrick_test123]

The point when making a list of rooms in the neighborhood would have been more accurate. ; )

[@blursedoftimes]

This is how right wingers think and view the world. It's all opinions, no facts.

[@dcheverie]

If you mean the link to the blog posts, did you even click on any? Sources are cited in the blogs. He is just giving a summary of the sources in an easier to read way. Of course, I guess I should expect people to actually look into things to see if there is any validity.. Almost no one does. Keep being a sheep though.

[@redemptionhappens7725]

Manny Q I would say that is true of anyone who’s political beliefs are a part of their identity. I tend to lean right at this point but I would never describe myself as a Republican people need to grow up and get beyond all that. It’s intellectually stifling. It’s all opinion and no facts with those sorts because they are defending their own egos, since their beliefs become a part of who they are.

[@lvr3646]

I'm under 18, Lauren saying my value decreased due to promiscuity (even though it wasn't my choice) was kind of soul-crushing. Her views are flawed and damaging to women.

[@1975amclav]

I'm sorry that it wasn't your choice. The silver lining, though, is that you still have a lot of time left to prove idiots like Lauren wrong. Good luck to you!

[@TriggerHappy923]

Her audience is men, everything she says is to make money from men. She obviously lies and she is harmful, but it shouldn't be harmful to women, just men's chances in getting a mate if they start saying her lies.

[@nightshade7111]

She makes money on incels men's psuedo-science views based on oppressing women for their own benefit. Keep fighting!

[@HopperDragon]

The general idea among the right and even the center that a woman's value is decreased with sexual activity is deeply misogynistic, hypocritical, and shitty. No one is worth any less for their experiences, let alone their non-consensual ones. The bit about being "desouled" was truly chilling.

[@christianmcnally1832]

Uh, it's not promiscuity if it wasn't your choice. So if it wasn't your choice it wasn't promiscuity

[@djungelskogjamjam4995]

anyone else find it creepy how all these old men are spending so much time thinking about adolescent girls' sexuality?

[@paisleepunk]

@@ოChiamariaო Does that tactic work better on or off "the pill"? (asking as someone who doesn't go through periods)

[@HaHa-lx9yo]

I’m a 26 year old woman. I’m 5’3” and petite. Many men assume that I’m 21-22 and hit on me. And so many are 40-50 year old men! Fucking disgusting!

[@radschele1815]

Period usually does creep them out. If there are people who are not creeped out, that's good. If they start praising the period as a holy ritual which cleans the body? RUN!

[@cynicthehedgehog385]

Wish they’d quit calling it “risk” of divorce. Divorce is not a bad thing

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Agreed, it's a tool to end a marriage that either went bad or wasn't good to start with. Too many people think "marriage always good, divorce worse than die" and I am sick of it.

[@KattReen]

You could eliminate that risk altogether by not getting married

[@crazedadventurer5717]

Unless ur rich and ur getting finessed

[@blackmanops3749]

It's Christmas time for women.

[@mateohodge6998]

@@blackmanops3749 only for those dumb enough to either get married in the first place or not get a prenuptial agreement

[@Matrim42]

"Today we're gonna take a look at a Lauren Southern video" Do we have to?

[@hgoggs]

at least he didn’t show a clip

[@joeblaster8770]

Matrim42 yes you have angered the gods, hahahaha!

[@blakchristianbale]

The virgin bride vs the Chad divorcee

[@anitarecount5081]

PukesRainbows It’s true and they should say it

[@AlphabetCookie]

Virgin bride >>>

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

>virgin >bride

[@blakchristianbale]

You guys know you can get married while being a virgin right? Like that comes up in the video

[@StNick119]

Lol nice

[@adamr.5544]

It's funny, but I think the same people who claim that early sexual activity is harmful are the same people who would lower the age of consent in a heartbeat.

[@westonmeyer3110]

No, it will be the left that does that. You technically already have by supporting kids being able to go to strip clubs.

[@i10i60]

*lower the age of marriage.

[@gijsvandergiessen1150]

Isn't it funny that when people make broad sweeping statements about how people are, they often don't include themselves? Isn't it funny when someone says men unquestionably value youth and fertility, men go 'hmm yeah that must be true, men do value that'. Now have a look at yourself as a man, do you value youth and fertility over anything else? I am a man, and I can say that I don't care if a woman can have children or not, and I also don't care if she's older than me. At least within a 'normal' range of course. I don't want to date a grandma. But I think I can safely say I don't value youth and fertility over almost everything else. And I think I can safely say most men actually don't. Then why do men still listen to her and say: yeah I guess she's right. Men do value that! Without looking at their own situations at all. Same goes for women who follow her. Ask yourself, do you really value strength and resources over almost all other things? If not, why do you assume other women do?

[@nicolasg7601]

Gijs van der Giessen Because I’m the protagonist. You wouldn’t understand.

[@DanksterPaws]

Very important, have my like

[@AT-vp8qw]

I'm actually glad to hear other men come forward and say that's false. Constantly being told by other men and women all 18 years of my life that men value youth and fertility, and it's all just part of their "biology", seriously made me not want to date men at all. I thought my bf was honestly a minority, but I'm glad to be proven wrong. It makes me have a lot more trust and faith in humanity now.

[@lalitthapa101]

These alt righters attack our insecurities and that's why they are largely successful.Its mostly due to the left failure to get past their infighting and actually make people understand their points. Its a fact the left us terrible at representing itself. Imagine if you are an average guy who knows nothing about politics and the left bombards you with things like "male privilege,patriarchy"etc.which are factual but for the common man that's just intimidating. Happened with Me,until I took time and understood all these words and their meanings. Unless the left does something to improve themselves and their ways to appeal to the common people,these idiot conservatives and alt rightrs aren't going anywhere.

[@ertymexx]

I would say that it varies, as most other things. I have never been much for what is considered "normal" beauty standards (the cardassian types), and I have for as long as I can remember been mostly drawn to slightly older women; not saying that I have dissed younger ones, but I do prefer maturity and a relaxed view on things than the hyped personalities that many younger women have. But I know that some men, many men, do look for youth and surface beauty. Perhaps because they think that entails status and respect from their peers, or because they genuinly like that. To each his or her own, I guess. But to claim that the majority likes/strives after/are attracted to young and fertile women..? Humbug. Just as bynote... how the heck do you know if a woman is fertile, unless she has had previous partners and, you know, procreated? :-P

[@Kaipyro67ALT]

Gotta love them traditional conservative values. Where a traditional family is one man and one woman. And her sister... once. And the maid... once. And the daughter's college friend who stayed over during spring break... once. Just a traditional family.

[@Kaipyro67ALT]

@Venraef A lot of wealthy conservative white men cheat on their wives. That's the joke.

[@NoUseForAName06]

I do love that delicious Irony of Lauren being able to preach her hate and say the horrible things she says by using the freedoms that feminism has afforded her. Would be difficult to travel to Italy to throw refugees of boats if you are married and have 3 Kids at 21.

[@lucianraphael9527]

boxersnatcher too bad she doesn’t call out or dislike 1st or 2nd wave feminism. She calls out 3rd wave feminism which is an insult to the 1st and 2nd movements

[@Spazzycat14]

Modern feminism does not allow her to do this. Modern feminists did nothing for Lauren Southern. Feminism is not a universal term for womans rights. Modern feminism stands for inequality and suppresion of men. Also the 19th amendment was voted in by men. If men were as bad as feminists say, you all would have black eyes and be forced into silence. Oh wait thats Islam.

[@AlphabetCookie]

What did Lauren say that was hateful?

[@traceuse13]

"Bla bla bla I don't understand feminism" -every reply in this thread except the first one

[@riley8385]

Chabaa "Modern feminism is nothing like past feminism!!11" --> Doesn't know shit about either of them.

[@eastbelfastscreen5429]

when your life is falling apart but all your faves are posting videos at once

[@somniloguy12]

What's going on? Are you okay?

[@sydneyrica1802]

East Belfast Screen Is it finals? Because my brain is frying.

[@BolshevikChris]

Sydney R I'm finished tomorrow whoop whoop my entire body is sad

[@theangrypatient3732]

That just means that at some point in time, everything will fall back into place.

[@RhizometricReality]

Same fam, same.

[@Steinchen43]

Love how she is the exact type of person to scream "facts don't care about your feelings" in your face but when it comes to actually backing up her views with facts, she can't even cite a single study.

[@westonmeyer3110]

She is a lot more right than Shaun is.

[@i10i60]

@@westonmeyer3110 Nope.

[@daroachdoggjr.6025]

@@westonmeyer3110 How so? Because she agrees with you? A lot of people think the earth is flat, but have no proof or data that supports them. Weston, you're acting like an illogical flat earther. Sad!

[@vez3834]

​@@westonmeyer3110xd imagine the delusion

[@50iraqidinar]

@@westonmeyer3110In a certain sense of the word. That implies the exact opposite of what you're suggesting though.

[@lizucavictoria]

I remember when Lauren used to call herself a liberal. She's full Christian conservative now.

[@alanritchie7850]

Sherlock Smuuug really? Where did you find that out? I’m really interested. That’s sounds extremely vile and I thought Lauren was all talk and no action

[@ontmaskeraar6978]

10 years later: yes, I, louren southern, am a wahabi muslim now. I've realisedn the fact that christianity can't be conservative, because the holy mary was a woman. so I were a hijab to protect me from the evil degenarate Culteral crusading marxist who all want have orgies and destroyn midle eastern civilisation.

[@spenceredwardmullen5957]

She’s a full white nationalist now.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/7f3f3w/reminder_that_lauren_southern_proactively_blocked/ I know it’s a reddit post, but it leads to a rather good video on the matter, which includes footage that southern took while commiting her crime, even stating her intent of hindering the coastguard during it. Truly a criminal mastermind.

[@karnakvt]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIaXp2V6qJxqlc0

[@Happiheaded]

I was groomed and abused by a guy, and this video terrified me. It was literally used as a tool of abuse.

[@clairebodger1813]

Same. I’m sorry❤

[@emilybarnaby2838]

It's interesting that most of the studies linked focused only on women's sexual activity. Is there less data on how men's sexual partners affect divorce rate, or did Southern just not look at those for the sake of her video?

[@KookiesNolly]

heterosexual sex involved a man and a woman but all women and responsible when it happens. make sense.

[@debodatta7398]

Lauren Southern is 22-23? holy fuck I thought she was in her late twenties-early thirties. conservatism not even once.

[@ananyats5063]

Being a douche ages you I guess.

[@Orchestructive]

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert

[@foxbodyblues6709]

SavingPrincess lols 😂 thinking Colbert is a “liberal”

[@mrboomward]

“It is not my fault if reality is Marxist” - Che Guevara

[@richardsmart4840]

@@foxbodyblues6709 I don't know, he seems quite keen on AOC and Ilhan Omar. Not that I don't approve - I'm just saying...

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Richard Smart he is a king size grifter who has been cashing checks for like 10 years just parroting DNC talking points...liberals and leftists with principles reject his grift.

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

@@foxbodyblues6709 But that is how liberals are generally though. Naive ideas, Bit soft on the morals and happy to apply themselves to capitalist greed. Don't confuse liberal with leftist. Liberal is the epitome of centrism.

[@cervicalvertebrea]

as a 30-year old woman, if a man I was interested in were more interested in 20 year olds, I'd quickly lose interest in him.

[@westonmeyer3110]

Your problem is the fact that the average age of the country keeps going up dramatically. You may want someone in their 30s and that might be barely feasible for now, but Gen alpha will have to set a limit for partners in their 20s when the average age is 60(millennials at that point btw)because there won’t be any kids in any relationships if a limit isn’t established. Women in their 30s are much less likely to want kids and even if they have kids they have a lot less than men typically want. Right now you are having some success in dating because men think having children is negotiable in some way, but 30 years from now it won’t be. Shaun’s video will age very very badly in the future.

[@i10i60]

@@westonmeyer3110 As an Evo. Psych. major with a minor in stats, your shit ass comment is soo funny 🤣🤣. It takes one 15 minute Google search to dispel this bs.

[@maribethmorgan7886]

@@westonmeyer3110 what is this take 🤣🤣what are you even saying? The average age of American citizens in general or the average age people get married? The age of marriage has been slowly rising in general due to lack of interest in marriage, financial hardships, and other priorities. As for kids…no one even mentioned having kids-but that’s something that both men and women over the past few years have showed declining interests in. men and women don’t want kids as much. We see that trend increasing with Gen z as well. And as for Gen alpha-at that point innovation may change the way we have kids in general, as well as fertility rates. I don’t think Shaun is gonna be wrong lol-I’m not even sure what point you’re making

[@edward2962]

I find it interesting that so many of these people are worried about women's promiscuity but don't place the same concern on men's pre-marital sex lives.

[@Otokogoroshi]

Huh, I guess my being molested as a small child is why I'm a non-theist! Because apparently, it destroyed my soul????

[@IloveGorgeousGeorge]

Oooh no...somebody "de-souled" you as a kid, too? Guess we'll never be married 😢

[@liamthemusicreviewer]

I can’t wait for this roas-I mean, thorough analysis!

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

Im always ready for some R A W D A T A A N A L Y S I S

[@zacharieetienne5784]

Dear Shaun, Have you ever heard the saying _"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people"_ ? I'm new to your channel, but I've noticed almost all of your videos are aimed towards picking apart every time someone says something stupid/inaccurate. This video is an obvious example, but there's also; "A response to Roaming Millennial's People of Colour: You are not Oppressed" = Roaming Millennial "So, about that Amazing Atheist Video ... [Patreon Goal Reached!]" = TJ Kirk "The Truth about 'The Truth about Wonder Woman' " = Stefan Molyneux "Stefan Molyneux's Native American Genocide - A Response" = Stefan Molyneux again "The Great Replacement Isn't Real - ft. Lauren Southern" = Lauren Southern again "Abusing Statistics ft. Black Pigeon Speaks" = Black Pigeon Speaks etc. It's quite strange though because the manner in which you speak, your voice, the words you choose... it's all very calm, very objective, not condescending at all and has great logical flow. Yet you use it to pick apart people, rather than putting forth your own arguments on how things should be. Like a form of "high functioning passive aggressiveness". Don't you think your wasting your potential? You've got such good logical understanding and the patience of a crocodile, something these conservative KZbinrs you debunk don't have, yet you choose to fight on their level. I'm a firm admirer of Jordan Peterson. Not for his politics or philosophy (though I do like that to), but because of his approach to never point out the flaws in his enemies's beliefs. He never names anyone for example. He only focuses on ideas. That's why I think he's on a completely different level to Sargon, Lauren, Shapiro, Molyneux, Crowder etc. I have yet to see anyone from the left, or infact anyone at all to be as respectable as him. But I think you could pull it off Shaun. You could do it. Just my thoughts.

[@T.image79]

Zacharie Etienne Many many many people NEED to be picked apart in a responsible society! Simply because they are wrong. Try being wrong in your local pub and see if you don’t get “picked apart”.

[@johnkapp849]

Jordan Peterson is a charlatan. He misrepresents his opposing views constantly. I'm not surprised to learn that he refuses to criticize specific things, because he has no grasp on others' views and has no intention of learning about them.

[@ramywiles]

Zacharie Etienne I wouldn't put too much stock in that saying, to be honest. More often than not it's just something people use to stroke their own egos and put themselves above people who indulge in celebrity gossip. That said, it's important to do both of the things we're talking about here. It's just as important to explore ideas as it is to call people out when their ideas are deeply flawed if not actively harmful.

[@mathieushifera135]

Lauren confounds the lust of older men for younger women with them being marriage material

[@simplyridiculous]

This my ancedotal experience: at 23 I got into a relationship that I thought would be the last one of my life. I was gleefully engaged and so much in love. And after nearly five years, through most of my fertility and youth, he became violent and I had to leave. What does Ms. southern say about that? It's been a few years now and I'm in a happy relationship with different goal posts (meaning that marriage and children are not the end game). Ms. Southern doesn't understand that relationships can be terrible and not worth your time, even if you do all the things she suggests.

[@1975amclav]

I'm afraid that, as a female, your opinion and feelings are worthless to the conservative mindset. Please get a husband and start breeding as soon as possible. Thank you.

[@simplyridiculous]

Aaron Kuehmichel oh, I had forgotten about that. Will do! 👍

[@bellaparabellum8261]

simplyridiculous, Lauren's point is not that leaving an abusive relationship is bad. Lauren's point is that girls who choose to only have casual hook-ups or chase some career in a corporation until they hit 40 usually end up unhappy and wish they had made different choices. You may have taken a different path and that's fine, but some younger girls may listen to Lauren and make adjustments to their lives before ending up at a point where they wish there was an "undo" button for life. The only thing I can agree with you on is that at 27-28 you are far more likely to make a wiser choice regarding a life partner than at 18-20. Especially considering how infantile the milennial generation is. ;-)

[@bellaparabellum8261]

Alan Wilson, if it wasn't for the technologies old white men designed, infantile milennials would have nothing to create social media platforms on ;-)

[@bellaparabellum8261]

Also, not quite sure who is doing the whining here. I was explaining the point of Lauren's video to the person above, and you were the one who butted in with passive-aggressive MANsplanations ;-)

[@zillafire101]

I remember Destiny calling her out for acting no better then the Muslim extremists she hates. Amazing how you can become the thing you hate.

[@issaosama4937]

She is exactly that ... an extremist.

[@u.srooster3880]

She became the very thing she thought to destroy

[@tomgjgj]

She doesn't hate muslims because of what they think. She hates them 'cos they're brown and speak ''durka durka''.

[@Petrusnator]

The difference between muslim extremists and right-wing fundies is who gets to tell other people what they should do.

[@shadowzeal]

zillafire101 so Step 1. Hate rich people Step 2. Become the thing you hate ........ Profit

[@user-sm5sj6mg2t]

There is something every girl needs to hear. Don't listen to Laura Southern, she's batshit crazy to the point of posing danger to her audience.

[@eXileLies]

Lauren's Christian sharia ideas are so ironical, it physically hurts.

[@spankeyfish]

'white sharia' has literally become a meme in the far right and incel crowds

[@christianmcnally1832]

1. It's ironic not ironical and 2. It's not ironic it's hypocritical

[@TheSoonamee]

@@christianmcnally1832 1. ironical has the same meaning as ironic and is the older form of the word, and 2. it may be hypocritical, but it could also be considered ironic if you are not a prescriptivist and you are willing to accept that words can have more than one meaning

[@friendbreakfast]

Found the pedant!!

[@kaiserwilliams6833]

Making us watch that for the sake of intellectual honesty... why must you torture us so? ;_;

[@kak10053]

Kaiser Williams Yeah, that was one of the worst things I've ever seen. As soon as she started talking about women's age and chastity is what made her valuable I started screaming.

[@kaiserwilliams6833]

Eh, I mean the whole thing can be debunked by pointing out she's lecturing other women on doing something she herself isn't doing.

[@ComradeQuagsire]

Its just sad how much she despises women, including herself.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Because some people refused to do it and now are living with the Consequences.

[@gregorhodson3741]

You don't have to do everything Shaun says you know, and I doubt he expects everyone to. He presumably just trusts that enough people will watch it that if he is misrepresenting Southern they'll call him out.

[@neuromuscular_lava]

The fact she thought those were good sources blows my mind. I’m in college and if I cited those as sources I would have failed every research paper I’ve ever written. Lauren needs to learn what JSTOR is.

[@subroy7123]

"Promiscuity is the mechanism of """""desoulment"""""" Are they trying to find out new ways of making Horcruxes?

[@4c_aperture]

“proof that voldemort fucks” is not something I expected from this study but it’s what I’m getting, apparently.

[@TwelvetreeZ]

Sounds much more fun than murdering people, tbh

[@fruitygarlic3601]

*_" w h o r e c r u x e s "_*

[@BasiliskKingOfSerpents]

RandisRealm “proof that voldemort fucks” wasn’t what I was expecting from this comment section, either, but reading those words absolutely made my day.

[@funsponge9099]

Do these people ever stop to consider that maybe telling people that they arent/shouldnt be happy with not being "traditional" is a factor in making people unhappy and they should just leave other people alone?

[@rust44]

BluBulletin Isn’t Lauren supposed to be a libertarian as well? Lol

[@funsponge9099]

Elise M i dont know and i dont really care what she identifies as i just care about what she says

[@rust44]

BluBulletin I was pointing out the irony in her statement. Good grief.

[@redemptionhappens7725]

AMEN!!!

[@beayn]

@Lachs geräuchert How does making a video advocating for strong marriage and family equate to "harassing people who aren't married"? Nobody is forcing people to watch her video, and she's not going out on the street getting in people's faces telling them to get married... where are you even getting this idea from? I just responded to a smiliar comment claiming conservatives are always trying to control people's lives. Last I checked there was no legislation to force people to get married.. but there is compelled gendered speech legislation in Canada and UK for example. From my point of view, lefties are trying to control people, and they're ACTUALLY harassing people who disagree. (See MAGA hat smiling teenager for example). This is the problem with lefties like yourself. You claim to be the logical ones but you are masters of hypocrisy, double standards, strawmen and red herrings, and those traits are exactly what pushes people further right.

[@setholmstead8339]

Real answer. You're just as capable of being miserable alone as you are with someone else. If you marry for the purpose of happiness you will largely be disappointed. If youre single because dating is difficult or your afraid of messing it up you will be miserable. I would say, life is often difficult better to have someone to help out.

[@betweenthepanels9145]

Daring Shaun to look at your sources is courting trouble.

[@merbst]

Or maybe he is the perfect person to help verify the intellectual honesty of a potential publication before it could possibly be misinterpreted by someone with a dishonest agenda.

[@amccarthy987]

i remember watching that video when i was 12. it was recommended to me and i watched it because i was questioning my worth as a woman. i was very insecure at the time because i felt i didn’t fit into the societal standard of a woman; i didn’t have many other straight female friends (mainly sapphics & dudes) and didn’t gravitate towards typically _feminine_ goals like getting a boyfriend or looking pretty. i know that sounds silly, but it was my genuine feelings at the time lauren’s video absolutely crushed me, i lamented about how i’d never be happy in life and no one would like me and i’d become obsolete once i hit 30. that my worth was merely to attract men and push out babies, and i would never amount to anything more. i mean, her claims were supposedly based on _facts_ right? but when i questioned where queer people fit into her supposedly water-tight worldview, i quickly pieced together how dumb her statements were. thank you shaun, for making this debunking video. i hope when other young girls find videos like southern’s, there’ll be people like you to call out this completely bullshit misogynistic rhetoric ♡♡♡

[@sydneyrica1802]

It reminds me of Girl Defined except instead of using the Bible to validate her opinion she just makes up “facts” or references people using their opinion as facts.

[@ladydontekno]

Sydney R I never understood the concept of hate watching until I found Girl Defined. I still can't believe these chicks are serious.

[@dcheverie]

Every link she posted has relevant sources listed. It's just "people using their opinion as facts". But, I guess I shouldn't expect a liberal to actually click on a link and READ to see if it's bullshit or actually have sources.

[@emilyc8056]

Sydney R She’s obnoxious like Nicole Arbour and boring like Girl Defined lmao

[@ultimatetadpole9607]

"Onto the next source which is a Stefan Molyenux...oh my God" The disappointment and sense of defeat in your voice just got me.then.

[@CatHasOpinions734]

PSA: Watch Lauren's video in a private window. It won't trash your recommendations and it'll keep you from getting into fruitless comment wars. I can't tell you how many times I yelled "I READ THAT STUDY AND IT DOESN'T SAY... Calm down, I'm sure Shaun will get into that, just a few more minutes... UGH."

[@rumpelstilzchen9876]

Too late T_T

[@redemptionhappens7725]

How do you watch in a private window?

[@micmac274]

Here's something the alt-right (especially Southern) needs to hear: Don't complain about illegal immigrants and then illegally enter the UK after you have been ejected for committing criminal offences the last time you came over.

[@dcheverie]

Criminal offenses like.. talking. Right, got it. She didn't do anything that would be considered a crime in any other country because the UK actually has laws free against speech. Which pretty much every other civilized country in the world realizes is a horrible thing. Seriously.. quite a few people have already gone to jail this year alone just for speaking. Doesn't even have to be racist either. As long as you disagree with the left, it's speech that's not allowed in the UK and can land you in jail. But, I bet you think that's OK, right?

[@idkdk569]

@@dcheverie It's honestly mind-boggling how conservatives can bitch about how immigrants don't respect the perfect, clean, western law of the country they're in, then turn around and criticize the same law because they don't allow Lauren Southern...

[@beayn]

What laws did Lauren actually break? She wasn't arrested or charged with anything for the incident that later got her banned from the country. She was literally advocating for LGBT acceptance in Islam, and the police asked her to stop because they feared for her safety. The irony of leftist ideology that defends extremism, violence and homophobia when you've got the correct skin color has reached absurd levels. Imagine if a MAGA hat wearing teenager was threatening an LGBT activist who had a sign that said "God is Gay" in America.... and the police were telling the activist to leave instead of the MAGA hat guy. Holy. Shit. The media would be blasting us with outrage for weeks since we already know the levels of outrage that a smiling MAGA hat wearing teenager in front of a Native American reaches... That is literally what you are defending. Homophobia and threats of violence toward someone exercising free speech... simply because the "victims" fit near the top of the progressive stack due to their skin color and religion you think is oppressed.

[@idkdk569]

@@beayn L M F A O Lauren Southern, the LGBT advocate who thinks all girls should marry an alpha male and have kids, and who made a living out of calling out trans college kids snowflakes...

[@beayn]

@@idkdk569 I didn't claim she was an LGBT advocate, but that is what she was doing to prove a point. She was literally advocating for LGBT acceptance in Islam because she knew it would not be accepted, and would be very offensive to Muslims (just like those Christians you hate so much who say God hates Gays). How did she make a living calling out trans college kids? Is that something she does regularly and gets paid for it? Also, you didn't address anything in my message. What laws did she break? Are you defending homophobia as acceptable from Muslims? What if there was a MAGA hat wearing conservative threatening an LGBT activist, would you attack the activist?

[@ashleyrhy5722]

I'm 21 and one of my coworkers is 40. He told me that I have to find a man now or I'll miss out. He said that by the time I hit 30, I won't be attractive and desirable... I have two coworkers in a different departments who are in their late 30's and they regularly have customers come flirt with them. So hopefully I have some time. 😡

[@enriquehernaiz7285]

Don't listen to those hacks. Do what feels best for you, not what other people tell you what you should or shouldn't do

[@muhammadeisa1459]

If it's any consolation, I'm 20 years old and I would definitely hit on mid 30s women consensually. There are plenty of guys like me lmao that don't really care that much about age, you have nothing to worry about.

[@anitarecount5081]

“Hello everyone. Today, we’re going to be looking at a Laura Southern video” Oh god. **starts drinking**

[@asnekboi7232]

Here’s a game take a drink every time Shaun proves one of her sources wrong

[@rando_khan]

Some guy... with a blog... BELIEVES something.

[@g.boychev9355]

Libertarians for sexual abstinence and monogamy. Rock musicians against alcohol. National socialists for diversity and tolerance. Christian fundamentalists for secular humanism. Libertarians for sexual abstinence and monogamy. Libertarians for sexual abstinence and monogamy.

[@LeagueUnionSevens]

28:50 *"The mission of The Heritage Foundation is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values and a strong national defense"* Wait.. what? That's got to be the most contradictory mission statement I think I've ever heard. Do they really value "individual freedom", or do they want "conservative public policies based on...traditional American values"? Does it make sense to push for such policies whilst simultaneously wanting to "limit government"? I don't get it. It's almost like they hate the government having power, yet they want it to enact its power to enforce their own preferred lifestyle on everybody.

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

Wingnuts are a weird bunch and so full of newspeak & doublespeak.

[@razi_man]

Do they realise that "traditional" and "American" cannot go into the same sentence?

[@PetitPoneyDuVercors26]

It's a neoliberal think thank, they're not really known for being consistant haha (The state is too big, the market should be free concurrence ...but we bail the market's failures and enforce policies by the government to protect big companies...)

[@TheSongoftheWinterRose]

@@PetitPoneyDuVercors26 Isn’t the Heritage Foundation a conservative think tank not a neoliberal one?

[@sonicsmiley]

It drives me nuts how these people dont understand what actual research is

[@dcheverie]

And if you BOTH were too lazy, you'd notice that the blog posts link to actual research. Nice try though.

[@TheKiroshi]

Than link to the god damn actual research than.. how can you call others lazy when this is literally half the work?

[@گایوساکتاویوستورینوس]

absolutely undisputable concrete sources thanks lauren

[@evee8462]

Why hasn’t she made a video of what every boy needs to hear - with male infidelity statistics, social requirements and responsibilities?

[@NyJoanzy]

What every girl needs to hear; "Capitalism is a flawed system."

[@lobstered_blue-lobster]

No, rather the problem is the players not the system.

[@Wm7forthewin]

@@lobstered_blue-lobster So that means it’s easily abused, so therefor, it’s the system.

[@lobstered_blue-lobster]

@@Wm7forthewin well sorta but that's a non-sequitur. Well what do you even mean by saying it's a system? Capitalism is a theory/a concept where the economy is purely run by private owners (which can be you) for profit rather than by the state. The concept that is Capitalism is entirely differently from how it is used, like there are corrupt companies and monopilies and It maybe the reason of competition or just being motivated by profit that companies use underhanded tactics like paying experts to promote their products but the fault isn't the concept itself but the individuals who do that, you can be motivated by profit while being ethical it's not impossible. You are blaming Capitalism because of it's bad usage not the concept itself.

[@Wm7forthewin]

@@lobstered_blue-lobster Ya, and it’s bad usage is why Capitalism is a terrible system. With this logic the USSR wasn’t bad, it was just used badly, and i doubt your anti-socialist propaganda would agree with that one.

[@lobstered_blue-lobster]

@@Wm7forthewin uh no that is not the point but you were very close to getting what I said, you cannot blame Capitalism for it's bad usage just like for instance Marxism/Socialism for it's bad usage just because the USSR used Socialism badly doesn't make the concept Socialism or (more accurately) Marxism bad. Socialism doesn't say your state has to ruled by an Authoratarian and Totalatarian ruler, just because most have done so doesn't mean Socialism has to do that as it is nowhere in the concept that makes it a requirement to do so as many right-wingers falsely proclaim it does. And the same with Capitalism just because many of the "players" are corrupt doesn't make the concept flawed.

[@Ana-tn4rm]

I feel bad for her fans, especially the younger ones.

[@bellaparabellum8261]

Why? Because they might actually (gasp!) decide _not_ to spend the prime of their lives sleeping around, getting drunk, catching STDs or chasing a middle-management position in some multinational corporation? The tragedy!

[@jonfavreau8491]

Bella Parabellum no I think he’s referencing the fact that young women are getting sucked into believing Nazi propaganda a young age dipshit

[@wehavebiscuits]

@@bellaparabellum8261 jesus you sound just like the religious nuts. How can you buy into that insanely boring world view at such a young age?

[@willhelmi2095]

@@wehavebiscuits I think that "your" world view is boring. But I have to admit that I have always been pretty conservative in my lifestyle. I don't like partying, I don't like alcohol. Discussions, sport and reading is far more interesting. I am 21 between. I mean even the feminist Schwarzer, my fellow German Citizen, is far more conservative than everything I see in today's leftists.

[@TheIngie44]

I really want to say thanks for this video. I am not and never have been a fan of Lauren, I know that what she says is largely crap with a conservative agenda. But when I watched that video of hers when it first came out (mainly to see what nonsense she thought was good advice) it legitimately made me feel bad. I knew it was meant to make me feel that way, and I knew it had an agenda, and I didnt trust lauren at all. But it still made me feel bad. Its been playing on the back of my mind for months in an uncomfortable way, so I really really want to say a proper thank you for this video. Its important.

[@davincicode2997]

Coming back at this now, after the claims of Southern having had sex with various big names of the alt right to get exposure, this is even more hilarious

[@IM2OFU]

"men value youth and fertility" no man like women older than him apparently, I guess I don't exist again

[@riotgrrrl8807]

Damn, this is so deeply routed in misogyny and fear of female sexuality. Especially that study you mention around 26:25.

[@OhMyThatIsUnusual]

I've no idea how Shaun has the patience to so painstakingly, neutrally debunk the nonsense some youtubers put out but god bless him.

[@gogetyourgun1490]

9:14 "I hope you didn't do that in college if you went" She actually did went to college for 2 years before she dropped out. Maybe she frustrated a lot of professors by citing Wikipedia lol

[@jlofty281]

"Maybe the poverty is the problem" You did it! You broke most sociological studies down to their bare essentials!

[@JohnDoe-vy9oy]

Lauren’s sources make my science fair experiments look like peer-reviewed studies

[@cherrytofu8939]

Underrated comment. lol

[@dhruvs8139]

Women are not obligated to do anything, LOL. Women will do what THEY want with their lives, not what YOU want, Lauren.

[@elguanteloko]

The fact that you took the time to quote from a study you had to pay for to get access to (something most people wouldn't have done even if they had tried to check Southern's sources) is well-worth the like-favorite-comment support I can give you.

[@andreasiwak2651]

Use Sci-Hub, my friend.

[@laith4388]

Lauren "Data is the just the plural of anecdote" Southern doesn't understand statistics and doesn't fact check any of her "sources" well IMAGINE MY SHOCK

[@Bryan-to6cq]

I love how this video resolutely annihilates Lauren's arguments and sources and yet a bunch of chuds still show up defending Lauren's video. Like, how do you watch this brutal takedown and still side with Lauren Southern

[@redlightmax]

Bryan Their feelings don't care about facts.

[@spootot]

Feelings don't care about facts is a great response tbh

[@somabalestra1131]

@@redlightmax LOL

[@jacindapeters2303]

There are tons of desperate simps out there.

[@DanLetts97]

Love is blind

[@azazael7618]

What a girl doesn't need to someone telling them how to treat sex and marriage.

[@lobstered_blue-lobster]

I disagree sex education and (if interested) "Marriage life recomendations" can be really life changing and important. Don't be an idiot and think that you know everything.

[@plutomond-]

Staying at home sick this masterskullpiece comes at the right time. My body is ready. Take me to cultural marxist heaven, Shaun.

[@mekaelbayati8040]

Charon lol is he your skull daddy

[@plutomond-]

He's what you'll become when I take your soul over Styx into leftist swidge womz liberal antifa realm of Hades.

[@mekaelbayati8040]

Charon LOOOOL

[@yesimstuntdude]

Shaun is my skull daddy for sure

[@SilentSnipest]

The issue with leftist appeal: It takes half an hour to thoroughly criticize 12 minutes of stupidity.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

The bullshit asymmetry principle :'/

[@nannaleifa]

*thoroughly*

[@fruitygarlic3601]

So many sargons...

[@cliffhulcoopofficial8075]

Plot twist : Lauren got married. Now Lauren is apparently getting divorced according to Lauren.

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

Children are unlikely to bring me happiness. Sex will though. Giving her opinion, toxic or not, is one thing, but I don't understand linking to 'sources' that are nothing. It would be better just to talk into a camera surely?

[@Gripen1974]

If a couple have problem in their relationship is it a death sentence to get kids, but kids are awesome if you are secure and feel good in your relationship. But it is all individual, som may not simple like kids and others cant live without kids.

[@FerociousPaul]

No because right wing extremists need to put numbers behind their bullshit, otherwise it's just bullshit. Even if the numbers don't actually back up their views or are irrelevant to their views, having numbers gives them a sense of legitimacy so they can proudly claim that their beliefs are facts. When really they're just feels.

[@bl1398]

the answer is people shouldnt be allowed to have kids, there should be licenses you can only have a kid if youve been in a relationship for at least 30 years

[@oramus5754]

Blah123 So given that people are getting married later and later-- Shaun even cited the fact that women are getting married at around 30~, you're essentially advocating for only 60 year Olds to conceive, and seeing as the life expectancy of most men is around 75, and women are marginally longer, well you can do the math there lol

[@bl1398]

i didnt think of that maybe women could give birth to older children to compensate so instead of borning them after 9 months keep them inside longer maybe 5 years dont know how possible that is becase biology etc maybe something doctors could work on

[@snappycaster]

Why do their sources always prove their own points wrong? Every time!

[@JukeboxTheGhoul]

Because the conservative agenda isn't science based. It's belief based. That's absolutely fine if you want to believe something is good for you, go right ahead. But don't try to teach BS to people to make them agree with you. Don't make someone else conform to your beliefs.

[@MrPiksovs]

"men value youth and fertility" sounds incredibly creepy to me

[@AnzeigenameHere]

You missed another important note with the first source, that was data for white women, not all women in the US. Funny she didn’t address other racial groups.

[@beayn]

If there was a study on black women, would you complain white women weren't included? (Not saying anything she included was a study, just making a point).

[@oof-rr5nf]

@@beayn Your point is shite. OP is pointing out that a homogenous racial study cannot be uniformly applied to all American women when America is not a homogenous country.

[@beayn]

@@oof-rr5nf The point still stands since it's in the form of a question, which has remained unanswered.

[@loreleiwheeler7548]

@@beayn That would be equally unrepresentative of American women as a whole, so I imagine they would feel similarly, though I don't think they were exactly "complaining". Just pointing out how it makes the stats too narrow

[@electron-Volt]

It's now 2023 and Southern has been dumped by her controlling ex, who refuses to pay child support and caused her to live in a trailer park with her young son.

[@dwill1804]

Higher divorce rates being touted as a negative thing is so idiotic. Most women stayed in horrible, unfaithful, or abusive relationships because society and the legal system did not give them enough options to leave. Those idealized lifelong marriages from the early 1900s were rife with abuse and infidelity but women did not have the financial means to be independent and support the kids.

[@nohbuddy1]

Didn't she get harassed over how she isn't married and doesn't have kids?

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

AmericanNohbuddy ™, calling out hypocrisy is not harrassment, idiot

[@nohbuddy1]

pro choicer is a mental disorder Both can be true. Her moron alt right followers were bitching why she isn't dropping out white babies.

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

AmericanNohbuddy ™, so what ? That's not harrasment if she doesn't want to have babies she needs to stop calling herself a tradcon btw why do you only criticize the alt-righ and not the alt-left y'all a bunch of hypocrites

[@nohbuddy1]

pro choicer is a mental disorder What's it like having an account to just troll people? Like seriously one of your google accounts is called "pro choicer is a mental disorder" lmfao

[@amorestierraamadahermoso5810]

AmericanNohbuddy ™, that's all your gonna say ? Bitching about account names ? great argument

[@rafeverao4105]

1:59 I heard this in Lauren's video, and I hoped you'd bring this up. We cover this in A-level psychology, and the study we looked at was very outdated (it's a very pro-nucelar family study, very period-friendly, from what I remember), but states that people typically preferred partners who were physically young-looking with wide hips (sought after in women by men) or who had a stable employment with ambitions and financial security (sought after in men by women). We, of course, brought up a pretty basic arguement against it: what about homosexuals? What do _they_ view in their partner? Do women seek physically attractive women, or financially stable women? How can you explain that through biology and evolution? What is the point in what I am saying, since nobody is going to read it? How is this affected (if at all) by whether one is trans or not? How are we supposed to apply any of this in the real world? edit: had some transphobic language, reading back on it 4 years later it was kind of gross to read.

[@GagaLuvr15]

Funny how I as a 30-something woman am having 20 year old guys asking me out.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

good on you, I envy you