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What everyone gets wrong about Melungeon history

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As I begin researching Melungeon history, we discuss some clips talking about Melungeon DNA and the old roots of Melungeon communities in there United States.
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@gkeith64
@gkeith64 8 ай бұрын
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@democratsrepublicansbothan7973
@democratsrepublicansbothan7973 8 ай бұрын
The African olmecs were the builders of the pyramids log before so called natives of Siberia. Aboriginal Africans were the original natives
@gkeith64
@gkeith64 8 ай бұрын
@@democratsrepublicansbothan7973 uh no and know the Negro is Yahudeyan Babylonianized as Indian and he is Shemitic meaning he gets lighter in the winter & darker in the summer. As such he is the only 9 DNA 🧬 strand being on the planet.. when he mix with African, he made the Amooray the beautiful blue black aka indigo ones... Blackamoor are far darker than Khemetic children... Contrarily when he mixed with the seed of Yapheth Caucasian & Asians he make native American Palestinian, Arabs Asians southern Indian southerns... All get tanned then Negro are indigenous to America
@alisalittle817
@alisalittle817 8 ай бұрын
Dane Calloway goes deeper than you!
@gkeith64
@gkeith64 8 ай бұрын
@@alisalittle817 doth the toe of the body, rail against the finger? Or the heart against the liver? All do as they are compELled, with loving favor as they seek and find, rightly dividing in accordance...
@ZuzuBell
@ZuzuBell 8 ай бұрын
As a person of black Southern and Appalachian heritage, I can assure you that regionally, his pronunciation is absolutely correct.
@SuprWomnAtPeace
@SuprWomnAtPeace 8 ай бұрын
Thank You So Much...I Often Wonder How Outsiders Come Around And Question Or Flat Out Tell You, That You Are Pronouncing Something That They Know Absolutely Nothing About Wrong...Hummm?🤔
@thepretendingpretender9163
@thepretendingpretender9163 6 ай бұрын
@@SuprWomnAtPeace Agreed, Al Roker just corrected his pronunciation recently and it tickled me to death.
@TheRenaissanceHillbilly
@TheRenaissanceHillbilly 16 күн бұрын
If you say Appal-AY-she-uh, we'll throw and Apple at'cha.
@pete6300
@pete6300 8 ай бұрын
Many people don't know the oldest city in America is St Augustine Florida. As a native born Floridian we were all taught about Desoto that explored from Tampa Bay, Florida all the way to Louisiana were he was killed by natives. The Spanish were all over the Gulf of Mexico states. The whole reason the British settled in the northwest was to prevent further Spanish expansion. The Spanish and Portuguese were the majority of sailors no matter what flag they were sailing under.
@mizzmolly7649
@mizzmolly7649 8 ай бұрын
I thought St. Augustine being the oldest American city was common knowledge. St. Augustine also has the highest rate of STDs among the elderly. But that's a different conversation. 😆😆😆
@Veltrosstho
@Veltrosstho 8 ай бұрын
Bruh, you ain't even the first state. First American (USA territory) "settlement" was Jamestown. Along with that, the natives would love to remind you that they've had cities in the American (USA territory) simce 600 C.E. Florida education strikes again.
@khreanos
@khreanos 8 ай бұрын
The place with the most STDs is the villages in Florida
@Sirianstar10
@Sirianstar10 8 ай бұрын
​@@Veltrosstho Bruh, Google it. Has nothing to do with 'fl education ' It is the oldest settled city in the country. Per the Smithsonian Inst.
@digitallhm8160
@digitallhm8160 8 ай бұрын
Correction. The oldest colonized city in North America
@Bohemion.Baxter
@Bohemion.Baxter 8 ай бұрын
I think it is impressive that you are discovering so many possible truths about your family history. Unfortunately many people come from families like my own where elders are aggressive about hiding the truth.I was even threatened that they would hire an attorney to prevent me from publishing the family research and photos that I have already obtained. To be honest there is nothing publish worthy or surprising that was found in my decades of family research. But there is a frustration that comes from trying to connect with older family members that think they are protecting the integrity and honour of their dead ancestors by keeping their lies and secrets alive.
@askajk5895
@askajk5895 8 ай бұрын
Feel like some elders in America live to believe what they want!!!! You can show them DNA results and they still have the truth they refuse to change.
@Bohemion.Baxter
@Bohemion.Baxter 8 ай бұрын
Yes you are so correct. I even had one elder tell me "No one gave you permission to test your DNA". I am almost 50 years old. I don't need anyones permission to test my own DNA!!! @@askajk5895
@Khangel
@Khangel 7 ай бұрын
What are they so ashamed of? If they are ashamed of a particular ancestry, how sad for them.
@Nwladylaura369
@Nwladylaura369 6 ай бұрын
Some want to hide groups that need protection from haters that want to cause harm.
@sam12587
@sam12587 6 ай бұрын
A branch of my family was like that. Everyone who knew the European truth is passed on now. I’ll always be curious about wtf the deal was.
@billporter7736
@billporter7736 8 ай бұрын
I've always heard the Portuguese origin came up from court cases and legal incidents where if they were considered "black" they couldn't marry whites, own property, etc. but if they were another group that was considered "ok" they could, hence they claimed to be Portuguese because then they were of European ancestry
@peterwilliamgerspacher8122
@peterwilliamgerspacher8122 7 ай бұрын
The Portuguese more than other Europeans were colonizing without taking women with them & mixing wherever they went. It was more about establishing that the paternal line was white, as the status of the father dictated the child's status free or slave & that the ancestry was back several generations, as for most of colonial history 1/8th or less was legally White. The one drop rule came much later. Also, many of them were not lying. There were Portuguese Creoles with West African admixture in the Colonies. However, someone with slave ancestry had every incentive to lie & make a false claim.
@olg06
@olg06 6 ай бұрын
​@@peterwilliamgerspacher8122 A DNA test of their Paternal Haplogroup would easily settle this...
@peterwilliamgerspacher8122
@peterwilliamgerspacher8122 6 ай бұрын
@@olg06 Has been done with 2 of lines in my family tree that claimed Portuguese Ancestry. They come up West African, but from Coastal & Island people who were not involved in the slave trade (they were historically not taken as slaves). They were people who raided inland for slaves & who then traded slaves to the mixed race middle-men (who were a mix between them & the Portuguese) , who then traded them to the slave ships - or simply traded & intermarried with the mixed race Portuguese on the coasts. These people were also both in what were then Portuguese Colonial possessions - Fernando Po Island & the Kingdom of Loango. There were Portuguese Creoles in both these places for more than 100 years before Jamestown was even founded. I have a 3rd line that comes from a people historically taken as slaves, but the closest yDNA matches come off Islands that were uninhabited till the Portuguese settled them & then imported slaves from other parts of African (including where the yDNA comes from) & then mixed with the slaves. The yDNA is closest to Portuguese Creole people who still exist on the Islands of Sao Tome & Principe today.
@denisepuckett4819
@denisepuckett4819 6 ай бұрын
My results give me Portuguese..African..and of course European..Scottish..and few others including NA..but my NA comes from a Melungeon grandmother who's family were Monacan Indians in VA.. my DNA proven family tree has 3/4+ Melungeon surnames..and most if my relatives came From TN Sneedsville and other counties..VA..WV..KY..all in a circle at the edges of all 4 states..also NC..Gointown and others..all key places of Melungeon origin..funny thing is..I am white as a ghost..due to my large amount of Scottish 37%..very proud of my surprising heritage..
@emilylee9894
@emilylee9894 4 ай бұрын
There were no DNA test then. Now the contribution of chromosomes of both fathers and mothers can be defined.Both parent's contribution is equally important. The mother's DNA data would show the genetic flow and inclusion over time.
@25oxendine
@25oxendine 8 ай бұрын
We the people of Appalachia pronounce it just as he does. As a descendant of many Free Mulatto lines of Va. and NC, I have many Melungeon matches, and he is correct about those families having West African vs Native DNA. Most of my family comes back between 5-9% Native DNA, but that's because of Native ancestry outside of my Appalachian Melungeon roots. I don't see it in my Melungeon matches, and the Southern European is also fairly low. I think looking into the Virginia Indian tribes would be an interesting topic as well. I think that many of our tribes share a similar profile to Melungeons just as the Lumbee and Haliwa Saponi do. I've seen a few families on those lines too through my own ancestors connected to those groups such as my maternal 3xgreat gps Polly Johns(her mother was a Redcross-Johns) and Gibson(Joanne)-Evans(Morris) lines out of Granville Cty NC
@vanessareedhawaiinani
@vanessareedhawaiinani 8 ай бұрын
That what i am Lumbee and saponi and also have melungeon also myself
@vanessareedhawaiinani
@vanessareedhawaiinani 8 ай бұрын
My COUSINS AND ETC ARE OF THESE CONNECTIONS GIBSON EVAN AND RICHARDSON ETC AND LOWERY RUDD ETC ❤
@25oxendine
@25oxendine 8 ай бұрын
@@vanessareedhawaiinani Yep... me too. You know Kianga Lucas? She documents a lot of Haliwa history
@vanessareedhawaiinani
@vanessareedhawaiinani 8 ай бұрын
@@25oxendine yes i do. I m also kin to some oxendines myself. So yes 😊
@pete6300
@pete6300 8 ай бұрын
Apparently she hasn't spent much time in appalatcha 😂🤣😂🤣 Them hollers were fun to grow up in as small child.
@nytn
@nytn 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t! I’m excited to learn
@pete6300
@pete6300 8 ай бұрын
@@nytn Thomas Sowell does in depth explanation of where the Appalachian people of British origin came from. I think it was in black rednecks and white liberals. He even traces the cadence of AAVE to a Welch community.
@melvinlee5684
@melvinlee5684 8 ай бұрын
My first learning of the Melungeons came about 50 years back. We had them in my home area. Most thought that they were of indigenous lineage. They all were darker olive skin, straight black hair, and the men had thick black beards. Most intermarried with whiter folks thus losing their darker phenotype. I later learned that my great great grandfather might have been Indian or melungeon. Many of my maternal relatives look the part. My genetics test do show that I have some Portuguese in my makeup.
@dianamitethe1nonly703
@dianamitethe1nonly703 6 ай бұрын
Enjoying this fall down the rabbit hole! All I can think of watching these videos, is my Dad ( swarthy complexion, curly dark hair, gray eyes) chuckling to himself when he did his ancestry DNA test. His family has claimed Native American heritage for years, and when he sent off his test, he was laughing and said “ Ah Buddy, they all think it’s Native American but that test is gonna come back and say South Sudanese or something “. His test came back and he laughed all the harder because not only did it not mention Native. American anywhere, but he nailed the South Sudanese ( South Sudanese Hunter gatherer Pygmy, to be exact). Maybe he knew something everyone else in his family didn’t 😉😜
@nytn
@nytn 6 ай бұрын
there is always another rabbit hole to go down
@Bummerdrummer463
@Bummerdrummer463 8 ай бұрын
A few weeks back before I changed my user name, I suggested you cover melungeon heritage, and I so glad you liked the topic because it's fascinating to learn more about a lesser known group of Americans. I was raised in the Appalachians and I find the topic of the mysterious American mountain people fascinating.
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg 8 ай бұрын
In college we did an in depth study of melungeons traveling to meet with families and studying their culture (I did a bluegrass major with a minor in Appalachian studies at east Tennessee state university) a fascinating history and people.
@lovefauxtoes
@lovefauxtoes 6 ай бұрын
Go Bucs!!
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg 6 ай бұрын
@@lovefauxtoes woot woot!
@joeyking3908
@joeyking3908 8 ай бұрын
My understanding is they used the term "Portuguese" to avoid discrimination
@lenr7068
@lenr7068 8 ай бұрын
I am so fascinated by this topic. I watch a lot of videos from other YT'rs talking about who were the first people of America and Melungeon has never come up. Thank you for this.
@winters3568
@winters3568 7 ай бұрын
I found out my mom and dad ancestry blew me away when they passed away. My parents just did not talk about there background, My mom was black and Jewish, my dad was Indian and Asian, it’s hard to process at age 69, How I look at all heritages, I do respect by background , I see in my grandchildren one has black hair, and the other child has brown hair with gold tones. What my family is realizing that any medically , it affect later in life, with siblings, grandchildren, the doctors said you can only get this that there are Asian and there are Jewish in your family, there are so many questions that I want to know, I grew as black. Now certain things I see. It’s conflicting not knowing.
@gazoontight
@gazoontight 8 ай бұрын
This is fascinating. You MUST keep making videos.
@Cutterscorner
@Cutterscorner 6 ай бұрын
I’m Melungeon descent. What I’ve learned is slavery was limited to indentured servitude in the earliest settlements. There were black and white indentured servants. Once they were freed, they settled in the mountains and basically cut themselves off from other societies. Even though they were free, they suffered stigma from being indentured servants. There was also some natives settled there. Henrico County or Goochland are areas where Melungeons settled and the Melungeon line basically started.
@ramakrishnashalom9004
@ramakrishnashalom9004 7 күн бұрын
That's because people assumed that the earliest people from Europe were white when the fact is that many of the early settlers were actually black and some of those black people were even of European royalty. They came to this new land to escape the persecution of the Catholic Church. These black people were Hebrew people literally. I mean the real bloodline Hebrews of the bible. Black Jews and white converts came over together. These black people, " Call them Melungeons or whatever," were the Hebrews of Europe. Their is a French connection to this because many of those Portuguese black Hebrews once lived in France and were forced into Portugal and Spain. This French connection is so full of amazing, hidden history and it's a truth that will change history as we know it. Of course their were Hebrews in other areas like Africa for instance and of course Americas. These black Portuguese Hebrews of Europe along with their white converts left for the New World for religious freedom. These black Hebrews proclaimed themselves as the literal seed of Abraham and they knew their bloodline and culture. So they came to the states of South Carolina, Virginia, and my home state of North Carolina. Their are a lot of black people who carry this bloodline and don't even know it. Their is also something very special in this bloodline that some of the people are carrying and don't even know it. Again, it's the French connection that's mind blowing.
@ramakrishnashalom9004
@ramakrishnashalom9004 6 күн бұрын
Ok let me share something with whoever reads this that's going to change history as we know it. Two thousand years ago their lived a miracle worker and I think you all know who I'm referring to. Well this miracle worker Yeshua better known as Jesus actually married Mary Magdalene and had children with her and her children had children and so on through the generations. The question now becomes if Jesus had offspring where did they go or what land did they settle roots in. Well, I'm not sure if any one saw the Tom Hanks movie The Da Vinci Code were in the movie it says that Jesus had children with Mary Magdalene and they were raised in France. Well, that wasn't just a made up story or rumor this is an actual fact. The true history of Europe is that their have been black Hebrew communities there for thousands of years. Mary Magdalene raised the children there in France. One of their descendants down through time was the Hero of French history Joan of Art herself who was in reality a young black woman. Joan of Art was no ordinary woman or person for that matter. She had abilities some like Jesus who she descended from. She stopped the winds just before a battle. She healed a mentally ill person. She jumped out of a tower over 75 feet to escape capture without a broken bone or injury when anyone else will have seen certain death from that fall and so on. Well, what I want you to see is that Jesus bloodline was in those black Hebrews of Europe. Not all of them of course but in many of them that carried it. Now here's were Americans come into this. These Hebrews were forced out of France and other parts of Europe into Portugal and Spain. It is there that the Catholic Church wanted to convert them to Christianity or face death or slavery. It was during this time that those who were able to fled across the ocean to this land of America. So here is what I want you to understand. Many of these black Portuguese Hebrews were carrying the bloodline of Jesus Christ himself. Of course some of them mixed with others. In another video Danielle was interviewing a person of Melungeon lineage were they spoke of having a grandmother who healed a burn and other things and when I heard that the first thing that came to my mind was that she is a descended of Jesus and has his bloodline. I'm sure that I was the only one who picked up on this because I know the migration of the bloodline. I think it should be noted that the black Irish also came over but many of them went to Jamaica as well. So Kamala Harris with her Jamaican father has black Irish history. Her bloodline is Hebrew of course as the black Hebrews had a stronghold in much of Europe for thousands of years. Can she possibly carry the bloodline of Jesus being of black European descent? Now that would be interesting because not all of the black French were forced south into Portugal and Spain. Some of them escaped north to Ireland to cross over to this land.
@TheKatdawg65
@TheKatdawg65 8 ай бұрын
I have Spanish/Portuguese, West African, and Native American in my DNA results. I also had the shovel teeth, and the skull shape. I'm beginning to think my Papaw was Melungeon; he definitely had the skull shape, dark coppery skin, hazel eyes and reddish hair.
@Anewme92142
@Anewme92142 3 ай бұрын
Just looking at you and your family you're definitely melundgeon ❤
@tejasmike7659
@tejasmike7659 8 ай бұрын
I have melugeon heritage from my grandmother. She had dark complexion and hair. I researched her with ancestry and found ancestry from Angola,and Wales.
@tejasmike7659
@tejasmike7659 8 ай бұрын
Also there was goins or gowens in her past ancestry.
@Kabeyavictoria
@Kabeyavictoria 3 ай бұрын
Wooooow Angola
@moorishg
@moorishg 8 ай бұрын
Another wonderful episode on melungeons. I've been researching them for over a decade and I'm kinda convinced that the ones calling themselves Spanish or Portuguese were part semitic. Many Spanish Jews and Portuguese Jews were escaping Spain during the inquisition and expulsion, Spanish Jews had a special relationship with Moors. So I'm sure there was much mixing along with natives and other groups that arrived pre recording. Columbus also had three Moorish navigators on his ship when he came to the western hemisphere. Also Moors came in different shades from dark black, also called Blackamoors to Tawny moors.
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 8 ай бұрын
The moors are africans there's no such thing as a hyphenated black when moors are just niggas classified as white on the census
@effewe2
@effewe2 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have never understood what is meant by Blackamoors.
@moorishg
@moorishg 8 ай бұрын
@@effewe2 at one point moors were predominantly dark skinned, once they started mixing with Spanish, arabs and other groups they became lighter skinned. As the Europeans started to take over they just labeled them Blackamoors and tawny moors . It's a form of segregation to divide and conquer.
@lazarocedeno5270
@lazarocedeno5270 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting and important thread of historical information. Thank you so very much.
@effewe2
@effewe2 8 ай бұрын
@@moorishg Thanks. Dark skinned humans just can't get a break on this planet.
@joeyking3908
@joeyking3908 8 ай бұрын
One other point to consider: when the Melungeons were discovered by the outside world, they were speaking English. Being isolated for so many years if they were Portuguese, they would have been speaking Portuguese. Besides, the Catholic church forbid the Portuguese from North America. Early on in the colonial period, they drew a north/south line. That is why the Spanish were in places like South Carolina and the Portuguese were not.
@user-ajp-4891
@user-ajp-4891 7 ай бұрын
I’m from North of Nashville but my people are from east Tennessee. Proper Appalachians. Everyone in my household presented as black, but my great grandmother, grandmother, and myself look a bit different with our features and hair texture. My mother investigated our heritage and she came back after speaking to our family still in the area around Johnson City saying we were originally Portuguese. I shrugged it off at the time. But I’ve never been accepted by my own black mother nor the black community as being black. I’ve been dealing with an identity crisis for as long as I can remember. I saw Appalachian Son’s video several months ago and sort of dismissed it. Until it hit me! I might be Melungeon. I’m so excited I found this channel too. Because I was about to give up and just start identifying as Creole. 🤷🏽‍♀️ 😅
@ememchi3717
@ememchi3717 2 ай бұрын
That's interesting because my people go way back in East TN (still here) but I'm not sure if ever heard people identifying as Portuguese. I will have to ask my grandmother 🤔 and also you are one of ALL OF US. You know us Appalachians are a beautiful mixed bag, we are all your people and you are ours. ❤
@ramakrishnashalom9004
@ramakrishnashalom9004 7 күн бұрын
Don't quite understand what you mean by not being accepted by your black mother as being black when you came out of her. The Melungeon were the black Hebrews in Europe who were forced into Portugal and Spain. Many were originally in France before the forced migration. They came across the ocean the escape the persecution of the Catholic Church who told them to convert to Christianity or else face death or slavery and your kids going into slavery and the ones that escaped that what what we call the Melungeon. These Melungeon were black Jews/Hebrews. While in Europe they proclaimed to be the literal seed of Abraham. The bloodline descendants of the Hebrews of the bible itself. Their is also something some of the people who claim Melungeon carry within their bloodline that they know not of. That's the French connection I mentioned before. It's really fascinating to know. I live in coastal NC and I don't think ALL of the Melungeon just went to the hills.
@silverharloe
@silverharloe 8 ай бұрын
Every place you go in this country, probably in the whole world, there are place names that the locals pronounce differently than outsiders. Often it's because the place is associated with a family name, but many other times it's just a matter of dialect. Linguistic history is just as complex as every other kind of history. Based on the other comments under this video, Appalachian seems like it's one of those words. The thing about dialects and local vocabularies is that "right" and "wrong" depends on where you are or where you're from, so it's best not to try to "correct" the locals.
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 7 ай бұрын
There are few videos specifically about the various Appalachian accents and dialects on KZbin if interested. But I can attest as an northern most representative of this mountain chain there are at least a dozen different enunciations used across it's length.
@valeriecole5957
@valeriecole5957 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I've heard his way of pronouncing 'Appalachian' before, and a lot. His way is also my preference.
@lisamann
@lisamann 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for correcting your pronunciation of Appa-LATCH-an
@elizabethbrandel6165
@elizabethbrandel6165 8 ай бұрын
I have been following you for sometime now and really enjoy your videos. Your series on Melungeon ancestry has been a real eye opener. Years ago I use to go to Hancock County for work. Many people in that area asked me if I was Melungeon and I would say no…but now I’m beginning to wonder about that. I always thought you had to have a darker complexion, dark hair, and blue eyes. I don’t have the blue eyes. I do however have the shovel teeth that you spoke of and am very double jointed. My DNA also shows a tiny bit of African decent, which was a huge surprise. My grandmother on my mother’s side of the family is from Harlan, KY. Harlan, KY I not far from Hancock County, TN. There is also the name Mullins in my grandmother’s family. I look forward to learning more about this from your future videos.
@timeforchange3786
@timeforchange3786 8 ай бұрын
Oh Wow! Are you familiar with the Mullins in Norman Ridge? There is even a Melungeon museum in Mahalia Mullin's old cabin.
@nerdlarge4691
@nerdlarge4691 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s not widely discussed but there was a Spanish and Portuguese presence in North America in the 1500s and I’m not just referring to historic Mexico or Florida. There was a famous rebellion of ~100 enslaved African and in the Spanish colony of San Miguel de Guadalupe in what is today Georgetown, South Carolina. Those Africans were rumored to have escaped and blended in with the Native tribes of the area. That might explain why there are historical accounts of Europeans encountering “Black Indians” in this region in later years. I myself have Black South Carolinan ancestor with a Latin surname who identified as “Indian”.
@MANI-ee7vr
@MANI-ee7vr 6 ай бұрын
So beautiful
@MANI-ee7vr
@MANI-ee7vr 6 ай бұрын
@@aP-me6iqmy dad side is tidewater creoles can be called Atlantic creoles or Virginia creoles. I have South Carolina roots on my mom mother side & her dad side from Virginia
@AshaBlack-wy3ol
@AshaBlack-wy3ol 4 ай бұрын
Those battles were part of the Seminole Wars aka the Gullah Wars. Also members of Yassame tribe claim to have always been Black and that they enslaved people looked like them. The people who are called Black Seminole seem to be a mixture of Yamasse, Seminole and Self Freed Africans.
@adammeyer3233
@adammeyer3233 7 ай бұрын
Love the video. My grandpa’s parents were both from that area. His mother was a Fugate from Eastern KY His dad was a Wassom from Eastern TN. I never got him to take a DNA test when he was alive, but I have a fairly large percentage of Native American and a little black DNA in mine.
@ememchi3717
@ememchi3717 2 ай бұрын
Fugate is familiar to me... I'm thinking we may have Fugate in my lineage 🤔 my people go way back in East TN so possible that extended family was in KY...
@clementmckenzie7041
@clementmckenzie7041 8 ай бұрын
Ava Gardner was 'Melungeon' and/or supposedly 'Tri-Racial' made up of European, Native American, and Sub-Saharan African ancestry, She rather famously replaced African American actress Lena Horn, in the Role of a white-passing Helen Morgan in Showboat, Because African Americans could not kiss white people romantically in films at the time and be shown in the south. Ava had darker ( for a "white" woman ) skin and exotic features So she was chosen to play the role while Lena Singing was dubbed over her vocals.
@AmandaFromWisconsin
@AmandaFromWisconsin 8 ай бұрын
The singer Fiona Apple is Melungeon on her father’s side.
@johnwingate8799
@johnwingate8799 7 ай бұрын
I thought she was Tuskarora native from NC...ava gardner.
@BloodyMaryNewOrleans
@BloodyMaryNewOrleans 6 ай бұрын
I am A New Orleans author, tour guide … I’m adding our local word for the mix of indigenous , African and Caucasian= “Griffe “
@nytn
@nytn 6 ай бұрын
I have seen that on records but did not know what it was, thank you!
@davidirwin1549
@davidirwin1549 8 ай бұрын
You are correct when you first stated that those today who have Melungeon and related roots are a much larger group of people than people would imagine. These intermixing's took place beginning in the early 1600's and from Virginia spread out all across the south and to some degree into the Midwest. Those that have done a DNA test with MyHeritage and see that they belong to the "Southern USA" genetic group more than likely will have some of this ancestry. Yes - on MyHeritage I have 12% Iberian and the same with FTDNA which also shows about 6% SE European (Balkan) even though most of my Ancestry is British isles with some French and German.
@shannsimms9072
@shannsimms9072 6 ай бұрын
Lol I love the “OTHER WOMEN WERE GIVING BIRTH”
@tbdaboel
@tbdaboel 8 ай бұрын
We Creoles in New Orleans refer to Melungeon as Atlantic Creoles. IT’s thought that Cher, Elvis and even Abe Lincoln share this unique story genetically. There is a sister city in Turkey that efforts to connect happened years ago. It’s tough thought the etymology is a Turkish word meaning cursed. There’s stories of them being Portuguese prisoners of Turkish pirates and a whole gang of variances. Dna can help this if you’re looking for it but like in Louisiana we had to have our own Creole dna category to help round our story which is as unique. Many people predate America and are part native and not Native American either
@bigmama818
@bigmama818 6 ай бұрын
Cher’s father is Armenian , she is a pretendian .
@moonbay2399
@moonbay2399 8 ай бұрын
one thing people may forget is that Some of these couples came together because they loved each other .It wasn't always about something bad. These couples really just loved each other . It took a lot of courage for them to come together. Sometimes even breaking the law. They could get rest. Even go to jail or prison . maybe killed. My dad's father was born in the Azores Island (Portugal) he married a black woman in the 1900's .They stay together till they died. I don't know too much about them. Because my father died when I was young .We have the family name of Dunbar which is Scottish .We think we got that name because he took her last name. maybe to be more American. or to pass as a light skinned black guy. for their safety. people don't tell you that passing with the other way too. instead of having a Latin last name. that could draw too much attention. but the family isn't quite for sure. but the Choctaw,Creole and Melungeon is on my mom's side of the family. PS Magellan was Portuguese . Portugal had colonies in South America, Africa and Asia .When historians talk about the age of discovery. They usually are talking about the Portuguese.😊
@litebriteeyes
@litebriteeyes 8 ай бұрын
Love your channel! 😂 My family history research has gotten me so interested in American history and I feel the regional histories dig much deeper than the big famous history books.
@joycejackson9315
@joycejackson9315 7 ай бұрын
My husband family has this bloodline from Eastern Kentucky. They have alot of health problems. Hammer teeth, deafness, Albano. They are a mix of African, Irish Scottish and gypsy bloodlines. My husband's family was them. Interesting video.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 5 ай бұрын
Possibly from a bit too much inbreeding
@Zaycream21
@Zaycream21 8 ай бұрын
We are still waiting to see you do the Melungeon squat though 😊
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 8 ай бұрын
Ain't nothing but a Chinese squat
@AmandaFromWisconsin
@AmandaFromWisconsin 8 ай бұрын
Slav squat
@SkyeID
@SkyeID 16 күн бұрын
I've heard it being called the prison squat
@TheAppalachianSon
@TheAppalachianSon 2 ай бұрын
Hey, that’s me! Always down to discuss this further 🙌
@nytn
@nytn 2 ай бұрын
yah let's do it! I tagged you in that video when I did it but maybe I did it wrong :D
@user-pm1nl7sf8r
@user-pm1nl7sf8r 8 ай бұрын
I found out yesterday, I can do the same squat quite easy. I'll need to get a DNA test. My family came over in 1630, and I had wondered if they had mix with people like the Melungeon or other locals that were here already here.
@tbenedict6335
@tbenedict6335 7 ай бұрын
My people came in 1630 as well but stayed north then came west. Native shoshone was thought to be in my blood but DNA test said negative. Wasn't until 1906,1914 my mother's side arrived from germany.
@user-ze3ic8os1n
@user-ze3ic8os1n 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful video. Keep it up
@joeyking3908
@joeyking3908 8 ай бұрын
My understanding is that only one or two Melungeon families have Native American DNA. There is big DNA study has been ongoing by the Univ ot TN
@timeforchange3786
@timeforchange3786 8 ай бұрын
The Goins have done a DNA study and I believe the Sizemores as well. The Sizemores have strong Native American in their family.
@TheRenaissanceHillbilly
@TheRenaissanceHillbilly 16 күн бұрын
You are correct Sizemore and Minor are two families that have Native American DNA, but they still also have African DNA. I'm descended from both as well as Goins and my African DNA is about double my Native American.
@AlwaysLime
@AlwaysLime 8 ай бұрын
His story actually echoes The Lost Colony accounts of their encounters of the people here when they arrived. They found some people wearing “European” clothing, some with blues eyes and some spoke English. So I believe him about people coming to settle here prior to the Jamestown Era.
@25oxendine
@25oxendine 8 ай бұрын
Lumbee claim that they are the Lost Colony and the DNA shows around 20% African DNA. They basically have many of the same ancestors as Melungeons as they originated from the Pittsylvania County area
@_bloodroot_
@_bloodroot_ 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for correcting your pronunciation 🙏🙌 That is definitely how we say it here in the hills! Love all of your content, and I love him! Very cool to see a crossover!
@The._.DeCLARAtion
@The._.DeCLARAtion 2 ай бұрын
I was born and raised in Hancock County, TN, and have always been told that I am Melungen without a second thought about it until my Father passed. This has been a great help in my information journey about my history. Still being able to live in the land my ancestors did again after college has been eye-opening and great for my soul. Hopefully, in the future, I will be able to get a DNA test to make sure I am correct in my assumption ❤
@patriciaryan1716
@patriciaryan1716 2 ай бұрын
I live in Southern Appalachian and yes :) it's a short A down here. I was once told its regional, that Northern areas say it with a long A sound 💁‍♀️Here in Western NC in the mountains where I live they'll look at you weird if you say it with the long sound 😂❤ Love your channel!
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 8 ай бұрын
Loving this series. I like the open interpretation of findings, though some in the comments would apparently like to rush to more definitive or exclusive conclusions. :)
@LostNFoundASMR
@LostNFoundASMR 8 ай бұрын
Mine shows up as Iberian-not Portuguese but has Portugal, and Spain highlighted. I assume that comes from my mother's moms' line which we have not found out who her mother is/was yet. (Adoption). What I do know is that ancestry is showing me as being in DNA circles with people from the Appalachian areas of Pennsylvania, Tennessee and West Virginia. So now you have me very curious.
@ememchi3717
@ememchi3717 2 ай бұрын
My people go way back in East TN- to the 1700's. One borne east of Knoxville in 1750-George Washington was still alive and were 26 years away from the Declaration of Independence which is wild to me; our country is just so young when you start tracing people back. Both of my Mother's lines have been in the Chattanooga area as we made our way down further south and have been here ever since. Our families were some of the first settlers in the Chattanooga area. We've heard stories of being melungeon or 'black Irish' or 'black Dutch' as well as of course Cherokee. I have a 4th great grandparent that is full African descent and that will be one of 4 people. I believe we know who it is from a photograph. Hoping to keep digging and learn more from her story. Like you, I am thrilled by learning genealogy & history and the story of ALL OF US. Appreciate your channel, keep up the great work.
@simonjusticier333
@simonjusticier333 8 ай бұрын
Melungeon maybe derived from mélange (french)?
@brentwalker8596
@brentwalker8596 8 ай бұрын
I'm curious about the claim of having arrived in the 1500's. What ship, where did they land, and from where did they originate?
@nytn
@nytn 8 ай бұрын
great question!
@sarahMuahahaha
@sarahMuahahaha 8 ай бұрын
Santa elena was before Jamestown in 1566 off South Carolina, now known as Paris island
@brentwalker8596
@brentwalker8596 8 ай бұрын
Ah, thank you. @@sarahMuahahaha
@brentwalker8596
@brentwalker8596 8 ай бұрын
The sound like a smaller group of Romani. @@Janemas
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 5 ай бұрын
Stories that people tell aren't necessarily true, even if they're convinced they are.
@patriciaryan1716
@patriciaryan1716 2 ай бұрын
I live in Western North Carolina, in a border county from East Tennessee. I had a patient at the office tell me all about his Melungeon heritage and where they came from. He said his family came over in the 1800's over the mountain from TN into NC here but that most of his people were in East TN. He said he had rexently done a DNA test with Ancestry and was happy to see his reaults. He had European, Spanish and West African. I watched a video on You Tube from an Appalachian man, who told the history of accounts he had researched and of how the Melungeon people came to be. It was an interesting theory!
@kdugg
@kdugg 3 ай бұрын
I’m melungeon, my family hid it for generations but I’m proud of my people! My family has been in West Virginia over 300 years. I line up more with Levantine people with some small amounts of native/African thrown in.
@uraqtpie2
@uraqtpie2 8 ай бұрын
Other names you may want to look into are Black Dutch also the blue eyed Cherokee and the little people that the actual Cherokee said were already here when they arrived .
@Fancyfan1000
@Fancyfan1000 7 ай бұрын
There is no connection with "Black Dutch". A group of early "Deutsch" immigrants In Pennsylvania were from "Deutschland". This was Germans from Germany. Most only spoke German at the time (like the first Amish) and were believed to be mostly from the black forest area of Germany. The English-speaking people in Pennsylvania usually heard this as "Dutch". Due to the "Deutsch's" native location, some people added black and called them "black Dutch" as slang. This was likely meant to be a sur of foreigners who spoke another language, but they were proud to be "Deutsch" and from the black forest of "Deutschland". Then nobody knew the difference that they were not from Holland. My grandmother's family (such as parents, grandparents, and older kin) were proud to identify themselves as "Pennsylvania black Dutch". They lived near the SW Virginia and NE Tennessee state line, were not originally from the Netherlands, hadn't lived in Pennsylvania for many, generations, were not dark skinned, were white, and had German sur names. (My mother was a blue eyed blonde as a teenager). I know of no "black Dutch" families, no German families, no Dutch families that have any connection to any Melungeon families or have any similar sur names, either way. There are several families in this area that have a German history rather than English and Scot- Irish.
@kdugg
@kdugg 2 ай бұрын
@@Fancyfan1000 they also lied about that. My grandfathers name is helmick. He is very proudly “German”. He is actually very heavily melungeon.
@Fancyfan1000
@Fancyfan1000 2 ай бұрын
@@kdugg Interesting that "helmick" is NOT an old time Hancock County, Tennessee (originally Hawkins County) or Lee County, Virginia name NOR an old time Melungeon name from that area. Is it possible your grandfather was both a combination via marriage German and Melungeon? What I posted can be confirmed by DNA testing sites for some individuals.
@Fancyfan1000
@Fancyfan1000 2 ай бұрын
@@kdugg This is actually based on facts. We can trace the family back to the ship lists and origins in Europe.
@kdugg
@kdugg 2 ай бұрын
@@Fancyfan1000 what I am saying is confirmed via DNA as well. I am melungeon. We are NC stock originally. Lumbee Indian connection. Some of the melungeon common surnames “goins” “Newman” “berry” “Lawrence” “Reed” “Kennedy” “Pennington” are names in my family tree. Grandpas name comes from a German line, yes. But very long ago. They lived in the melungeon community in dry fork wv. The helmicks and the Pennington’s were close relation.
@leg414
@leg414 8 ай бұрын
The Melungeon heritage story is quite fascinating, and wonder how much of a percentage of America, whose people spread out from their original site where they originated, as they would have to intermarry and assimilate to the point of having at least some recognizable traits, other than some stereotypical traits that some people have designated as Melungeon, or otherwise. Good video and I have learned more now, I will ask again if I come across the people I have talked to before as I think one is still living as they may shed even more light on their heritage and struggles and try to document it. Please share more, as i will ask some people in the Southern region of Kentucky who I think on my uncle's side, as they may know or have the lineage. Peace
@1missbridget
@1missbridget 8 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if you've come across anything related to the "Black Dutch" & Melungeon. My dad always said that his mom told him we had Dutch ancestry. After I researched, I think she meant Black Dutch, which is what many mixed-race & Melungion people called themselves instead of saying they were mixed-race. *oh, and I have "shovel teeth" too. 😂
@kareldebures7006
@kareldebures7006 8 ай бұрын
Love this topic!
@inetpathfinder5767
@inetpathfinder5767 8 ай бұрын
I read that Abraham Lincoln, Tom Hanks and Dolly Parton have melungeon roots
@timeforchange3786
@timeforchange3786 8 ай бұрын
Yes Lincoln, Hanks, and George Bush are all related.
@AmandaFromWisconsin
@AmandaFromWisconsin 8 ай бұрын
Where did you read that?
@inetpathfinder5767
@inetpathfinder5767 7 ай бұрын
@@AmandaFromWisconsin Google. Also Elvis had melangeon roots.
@omartinoco9930
@omartinoco9930 6 ай бұрын
I hope your work establishes a good map of the origins of those people. The people of Hancock county TN should not be forgotten but that is an old local news segment. Moorish, Portuguese pockets in the hills of TN. Keep digging Danielle, creole criolla queen. This is the best channel.
@Becca4.2
@Becca4.2 8 ай бұрын
Also, if you go back to your louisiana side, you've never discussed it so I assume it doesn't apply to you but there were portuguese in the acadian groups in Canada before they were exiled.
@mymessymidlifecrisis
@mymessymidlifecrisis 8 ай бұрын
I wish I would have written down things that I was told when I was younger. I have always been curious about my family history
@mistamaccapone5150
@mistamaccapone5150 8 ай бұрын
My great grandfather is from Murphy North Carolina which is in Appalachia. Definitely had the unique physical types displayed.
@brendita77
@brendita77 8 ай бұрын
Good day to you. I found my ancestors from Germany, Swiis German to be exact so they say lol I saw a picture from 1728 of my first ancestor from.Germany and he wasnt theh typical looking blue eyed, blonde hair guy. He looked more like An American Indian/Native.
@johnnyearp52
@johnnyearp52 7 ай бұрын
My dad's German family has dark complected people in it. So do some of the German Amish and Mennonites.
@friendsofcoal
@friendsofcoal Ай бұрын
From Floyd County KY here, Appalachianson is spot hahah he said it perfectly . Also he’s right about the Pocahontas claim. It was standard back in the day to claim NA compared to African ancestry because it was more widely accepted. Not comparing but just realizing what I have felt and heard regarding my family. They didn’t know where it came from but wanted to deny African ancestry. It was true self hate and denial. I took the test by the way and had high percentages of Italian, East European Roma, West Asia and North African, and Indigenous American. It took me years to realize what that DnA meant because my ancestry tree was not reflective of that 😂
@shawnstancil6942
@shawnstancil6942 7 ай бұрын
I had Spanish on my heritage and Crigenetics. Sephardic Jewish Portuguese Turkish and Angolan on Dna Consultant. I did my blood type its A+ which is high in Turkey and Armenia.
@Phoszoe137
@Phoszoe137 7 ай бұрын
Melungeon’s historically had a mythology about who they were, primarily as a means of covering their West African ancestry in a racist society. Recent DNA testing has disproved some of their racially motivated claims that they were Turkish or Portuguese, so be careful with the older videos on the topic.
@TheTerrainWizard
@TheTerrainWizard 8 ай бұрын
I love the work you’re doing!
@Will-pz3cz
@Will-pz3cz 6 ай бұрын
@nytn An easy way to remember it is "If you say Apple ay-chia, I'll throw an Apple atcha!
@julieennis6929
@julieennis6929 8 ай бұрын
Portugese shows up in my dna. The Portuguese who came to our shores were african mixed with Portugese. Most people whose families passed knew but kept it a secret and eventually the story of being part Black disappeared until someone like you digs it up.
@joeponder2721
@joeponder2721 7 ай бұрын
What most Americans either don't know or take into consideration is that the Spanish where allover southern Appalachia almost 100 years before James town looking for and mining gold and gem stonesThey also had contact with the Cherokee and other tribes
@dennistrull1475
@dennistrull1475 8 ай бұрын
My bro n law had the DNA test. He's about 50% otherwise mainly northern European with small amounts of Iberian, Spanish and Portuguese. These people explored together and as you stated (I think) the Iberians moved into Ireland long ago. This may be a reasonably reoccurring admixture?
@elijaheelhajjbey7844
@elijaheelhajjbey7844 8 ай бұрын
You speak of my family the Mitchell’s, Chavis, Gibson, Locklears of NC
@areneesouder
@areneesouder 7 ай бұрын
Regardless of what other people in the country are calling it,here in Appalachian,we say,"appa-latch-un". I'm from NE TN, and I was shocked when I saw how it was spelled, and shocked again when hearing people from other parts of the country was pronouncing it.
@musicmama2864
@musicmama2864 8 ай бұрын
I grew up using long A for Appalachian, but the short a sound has been more common for a few decades. I think people still use the long A for the Appalachian (hiking) trail, but the short a for the Appalachian mountains.
@sam12587
@sam12587 6 ай бұрын
Oh how I love the landscape in that part of the country. US human history is as speckled as the night sky is starry. A lot of good tid bits blow away with the sands of time.
@poemandres
@poemandres 8 ай бұрын
Someone who is related to Pocahontas...Edward Norton...supposedly his paper trail leads all the way back to John Smith and Pocahontas and was featured on a PBS know your roots episode...
@sarahMuahahaha
@sarahMuahahaha 8 ай бұрын
Pocahontas was "married" to John Rolfe
@poemandres
@poemandres 8 ай бұрын
well either way look it up Edward Norton Pocahontas@@sarahMuahahaha
@timeforchange3786
@timeforchange3786 8 ай бұрын
​@@sarahMuahahahaYes, they only had one son. There are Bowlings, Boling, and Bollings. Not all are related to Pocahontas but there are melungeon names. There is the red, white, and blue Bollings. They say only the white line is related.
@BreezyDaze
@BreezyDaze 3 ай бұрын
Pocahontas is said to have had a relationship with Kocoum Patawomeck and Kaokee Patawomeck was their child. This is prior to John Rolfe. Kaokee married Thomas Pettus.
@SkyeID
@SkyeID 16 күн бұрын
@@sarahMuahahaha "married"? uh... I wouldn't call it marriage per se
@ErnestoMercer
@ErnestoMercer 8 ай бұрын
Portuguese speakers in Virginia were Angolans & KiKongo…West Central Africa. Even a name…Malungu, which as in Portuguese speaking Brazil the word Melongo…
@senorra941
@senorra941 7 ай бұрын
My daughter has very light green eyes and the ridge in her teeth. I am English, my family have been here forever, her Dad is from Cyprus and his family had been there forever till he moved to England and met me!
@okeafia5630
@okeafia5630 8 ай бұрын
THE WAY HE PRONOUNCED APPALACHIAN IS THE PEOPLE/HERITAGE, THE WAY YOU PRONOUNCED IT IS THE PLACE.
@Sarahstar2320
@Sarahstar2320 3 ай бұрын
I had the same thing happen to me too. On 23 and me I had Iberian, (Spain) Portuguese, Italian and West African. It just disappeared after it did an update.
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts 6 ай бұрын
I haven't had the chance to catch up on the content regarding the Melungeon people yet, but I am intrigued by what I saw here. Thank you for continuing to dig below the dust of the old history books that are currently the standard for studying the history of this very diverse country called the USA. United not just by land masses, but by various rich cultures and peoples. ❤
@FreespiritRbelle
@FreespiritRbelle 6 ай бұрын
Please do research the Huguenots . That will give some guidance on the connection between Melungeon and the Iberians aka Huguenots. A lot of them had to become Chameleons in order to survive. They went all over and have an extensive history in the Americas including the west indies and especially in south Carolina and surrounding areas.
@lLeon44-g7j
@lLeon44-g7j 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching your journey, ty for sharing your journey. Have you read N. Brent Kennedy's book titled "The Melungeon's: The Resurrection of a Proud People." I am 60 and have known about most of this most of my life... DNA only confirmed it, all of it. In the book he explains alot, worth the read. Your right about this being a deep dive, its critical we set the record straight. God Bless
@sandrasmith7091
@sandrasmith7091 7 ай бұрын
That's how most Appalachian people say. It but also depends on where you came from. I suggest checking out celebrating Appalachia, tipper shares alo about language. 😊
@tommygamba170
@tommygamba170 8 ай бұрын
New Mexico has an older history. These people will be considered Hispanic or Mexican
@9thGenerationCajun
@9thGenerationCajun 7 ай бұрын
Do you have the Melungeon Bump? I do and my Creole heritage also is from Louisiana (for those that don't understand what i mean by "bump" feel the back of your head)
@corderomiles3769
@corderomiles3769 8 ай бұрын
Melungeon was also called another name prominent being Guineas, another being Black Dutch. Sometimes the "Black".. so many ways they tried to explain these ppl without "saying"
@mauallison7755
@mauallison7755 8 ай бұрын
There is so much not taught, or hidden, then lost during the creation of the US. Many peoples came here from many different places, mixed amongst themselves, and mixed with those already here. 1600’s mixing along family lines is muted in ancestry tests. It’s there, you just have to find it and confirm it in smaller segments with other family members and matches. I’m of southeastern US descent across all lines, some trotted down from NY, NJ, and PA early, though. My aunt did most of the genealogical work on my fathers side mostly from in and around Gaffney, SC. I’m still doing my mothers side who almost all migrated from MD/ VA early on to Eastern NC then down to GA/ AL/ FL. My fathers side migrated down from mostly MD/ VA to the NC/ SC border country centered around Gaffney. Some came from Charleston, SC on both sides. Some along quite a few lines were already here.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 8 ай бұрын
Ive been trying to help you but maybe you dont understand me. Melungeon is a New English word for old Holländisch-Deutsch word Morien or Moriaan. It means Moor which means in old Engelisch Nword or Zwarte. You will not learn it by asking people especially asking Amerikans you have to ask someone who knows old Germanics like my self. No country had a universal language therefore my village spoke a different language than the villagers up the road from me. Melungeon, Moriaan, Morian, Morien, Mohr, Maur, Chestnut Brown, Kanaka, Mulatte, Kreool, Grenada, Granate, Griffe, Mestiz, Mixed, Indiër, Schwarze, Svart, Zwarte, Maroon, Marron, Black, Sambo, Zambo, Dark Red, Donkelhuid, ... These are all the same words in different indo languages. Every country has its Indiaans and they are all one in the same Aboriginies regardless how different they look. The reds are the Moriaan or Kastanjebruin. Therefore you all are Amerindians "Moriaan Indiaans, Kanaka" who settled in various locations. If you have a question regarding a word just ask because I have every Indo Germanic dictionary and word book. During the settlement of the US there was no universal language. If I said i was Melungeon then you'd know I was a native Black from Holländisch-Deutsch like Groningen.😳 If I said Griffe then you'd know I was a Native Black of Portugal or Spain. Where ever there were Whites there were Blacks because they are one in the same people but the Black "Kanaka" was first and created Whites much much later. Learn this word White so you won't be confussed because its not a kind word. Okay look at these words: Morian, Mor, Sort, Maurer Black, Mother, Black, Wall They are all the same words. Black Wall Street is redundant because Black and Wall are the same words. Freimaurer "Frei Mason' and Free Black are the same phrases. Mother Teresa, Mor Teresa, Black Teresa, Spaghetti Teresa, Asiat Terea Red Teresa Are the same phrases. Mor-iaan "Mother of Indiaans" Black Indiaans Bos Negro. Aborigine. Skaevøje.... Non-white "ikkehvid" Jødesmovs....
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 8 ай бұрын
Your presentation is rude, and unnecessarily assertive. Your etymology and linguistic take is most likely wrong. There is a far greater likelihood of melungeon derivation from early modern French, ie. "melange", mixture. There is a significant amount of uncertainty - and intriguing study - regarding people movements, trade, settlement during that period. I have a linguistics degree. I am appropriately cautious about asserting some kind of absolute truth about history where the record is sparse and requires a high degree of interpretative skill and nuance. The only place that uses Kanak these days is New Caledonia. A poor basis for a universal point.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 8 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 I'm trying to help you and already I can see you are starting to understand. Sorte, mixed, Mélange and Melanated are the same words. Melan means Black and is most likely old Greek or maybe old Latin. Melan , Cérnoch, Juroslav, Yugoslav. Example: Melania Trump in English is Black-Land Trump therefore she must be A Juroslav with at least one Black "Austral" ancestors. Hence she is mixed "Indo" and most likely of colour even if it's light skin. All Aboriginies are MIXED. Black means MIXED. Mischling, Farbige, Mischung. 👍 You are learning very quickly my friend. Nothing rude about my tone nor languages I choose to use. You will not learn it any other way.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 8 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 Melan is a reference to Melanesia which means Islands of Black People and is where the Negroes slave trade was held in Indo-China. Where did Amerindians originate? Indo-China the Matahari cradle of civilization and home of Negroes "Papawoe/Papuan". Japan, China, Java, Bali, Polynesia, India, Australnesia is where man comes from. Micronesia👍 Hindia, Naga, ,,, People who worship the Sun and the Serpent "Satan", Pagans, Kaffirs, Heide, Gentiles, Heathens,,, Now do you understand or do I sound rude again? You will not learn it in New English.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 8 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 Okay, ok, Australian Aboriginies ethnicity is Man and one of his names is Austral Nword. They are the oldest and first humans and they are mixed "Black". Although he's Austral he did not originate in Australia they were put there by BosNegroes "Papuan & Auckerner of New Zealand" for their protection like Native Reservations. Nword and Native are also the same words. Meanwhile this guy called BosNegroes "Yahua Indians" settled all lands under various names including Afrika under the names: Khoisan, Hausa, Zulu, Benin, and Fulani but they are all Australnesians "Indos or Indiër". In Europe they are called Moriaan. Southern Europe they are called Granada or Griffe for example Granada Spain. Amerika they are called Yahua Indians, Yagua Indians, and Kanaka. Hawaii they are called Kanaka, Canada is called Kanaka... England was called Maure "Black". Ebony-Liechtenstein where Ebenisten lived were also Kanaka....
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 8 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 Today you are called races like Chinos "Chinese", Japanese, Afrikan Amerikans, Mexicans, Multiracials, Peruvians and so on...
@PapaPhilip
@PapaPhilip 7 ай бұрын
My mother's family was from Eastern Kentucky and Southeastern (Appalachian) Ohio, with roots back to Colonial Virginia and North Carolina. Dad's side is Greek. Some of my family names are "Melungeon" but a lot of those names are common British names. I read Brent Kennedy's book on Melungeons when it came out. HIs speculations are quite wild and someo f his linguistic leaps are just that...leaps. He was very adamant about the Turks being part of the Melungeon make up, b adding "dark" genes to the mix. Most Turks I've known were pretty light skinned. Turks are a mixed people, mostly the descendants of converted Greeks, Slavs and Anatolians (and Celts from Galatia). Greeks equated Blond hair, often, to the Turks because they had more blond hair than the Greek people. There are all sorts of ancestries from all over that go into the makeup of the Turkish people (including some Turkic ancestry, but ti's a lower percentance than what many people think.). While I think the Turkish origin of Melungeons is probably not true, there could be a lot of different strains of people going into family trees in Appalachia that were unexpected but explain things like Iberian DNA or Middle Eastern DNA... and it doesn't have to be Melungeon. I've found in my Appalachian ancestry a few Spanish and Portuguese lines that came from people that converted to Protestantism and were exiled from Spain and Portugal for this. They went to the Netherlands and then migrated to the colonies from there.... some changing their names from Spanish to Dutch sounding names (one family went from Courtright to Kortright, to Van Kortryk to Cortes as one moved back through the genealogical time line. One family went from de Rosa to De Roos). Some of these families were also Sephardic Jews who had been Conversos who then went from Catholicism to Protestantism and wound up, eventually, in Eastern Kentucky (that's my Israel de Ferreira family). Many don't know that the VIrginia Company in London also had a Moscow Company (traded in furs and other things from Russia), and they imported some Russians and Ukrainians (and Poles) to Jamestown to work with stained glass and other industries. I found a Russian ancestor that married a Scot and wound up in Eastern Kentucky. Lately I've read that there were, in Jamestown, some East Indian (i.e. South Asians) who were brought to Jamestown as indentured servants. They too were eventually absorbed into the general population (and sometimes into the Native American population). I thought the South Asian DNA I have came from my dad's side. Nope, I saw others from Kentucky who were part of my family - distant cousins- who also show small amounts of South Asian DNA. One doesn't need to be "Melungeon" to get all kinds of non- Northwestern European DNA in your genetic makeup. Some Irish also get Iberian as part of their DNA and it's not because of the Spanish Armada, but because part of Spain is Celtic and there is a possible connection with Spain as one of the founding peoples of Ireland from waaaaaay back.
@alisalittle817
@alisalittle817 8 ай бұрын
Keep digging.
@lavishleigh1171
@lavishleigh1171 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing this!!
@yawbear
@yawbear Ай бұрын
My Scots-Irish Tuckahoe Cherokee grandmother 😂 said she grew up in the Blue Ridge area, her relatives were mountain people living in cabin houses with 8ft drop offs for the constitution and fresh water springs for everything else 😂 I visited at 12 and the 8ft drops off the porch! Her relatives lived in the old northern Cherokee hunting grounds since before the 1680s at the very least, and remained there, they say the melungeon are not related to them but have always been neighbors and friends.
@corderomiles3769
@corderomiles3769 8 ай бұрын
Last one. . Black Indians of the Appalachia: Colonization to the Civil War by Rufus Jimerson
@johnwingate8799
@johnwingate8799 7 ай бұрын
The spanish were setting up forts and towns in the 1500s on the way to the Mississipi.They wanted an overland trade route from South America.
@weekendmom
@weekendmom 8 ай бұрын
The older footage in this video is likely from a documentary called Melungeon Voices.
@warriornedena
@warriornedena 4 ай бұрын
Oral history says several Moorish groups came to this land before Jamestown. Ben Turner just said the Melungeon's were Portuguese but appeared to be Moorish. This is fascinating. History down plays other groups that came here and contributed to our rich fabric. I wonder if the melungeon people have any traces of Islam in there history that would support the Moorish influence. Or were they part of a Portuguese group that was conquered by the Arabs and never converted.
@nemomarcus5784
@nemomarcus5784 8 ай бұрын
Your next step in your discovery of hidden American history should be Ohio. There are other tri-racial and mulatto communities there such as Marietta where President Harding lived. BTW, there was a "whispering campaign" about his mixed race ancestry. He did address that issue. You may find it interesting.
@hossee1
@hossee1 3 ай бұрын
He is exactly right..I'm proof with west African and turkey irish german Wales Scottish...I'm dark as a cherokee and a middle eastern but white...
@user-bx2cg2ec8c
@user-bx2cg2ec8c 7 ай бұрын
My DNA showed Iberian and portuguese.very interesting topic. Im from a multiracial background.i may have to some research.
@MoonCakeisaLie
@MoonCakeisaLie 8 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s Appalachian with the long A sound in the north and the short A in the south
@princesssally3689
@princesssally3689 7 ай бұрын
I am definitely Melungeon. Although my family was classified as "white" my dad, his mom and some of my siblings can pass for light skinned black or Latino. I first heard of them in the 1990's and this is how we were able to come up with the rare disease I have that led to my blindness. Behcet's Disease affects more Melungeons than regular white. I thought for sure that my DNA would show African and Native American but it doesn't. I'm mostly European but the updated results are now showing two percent Portuguese. I have the bump, the shovel teeth with the ridges, can do the squat etc. So does my daughter. We thought everyone had the bump and the teeth. lol Normal to us.
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