What EVERYONE is Scared To Say About CALEY Irons...

[@caleygolf]

Hey Simon, many thanks for taking the time to review the 01T irons - a very fair and thorough assessment. We will take onboard of your comments to help us improve on our future offering. Many thanks, Ryan

[@ianmcgaughey1]

Is Carley associated with Takomo? The products, website, offerings, etc look almost identical

[@caleygolf]

@@ianmcgaughey1 nope

[@ianmcgaughey1]

@@caleygolf what is the Caley advantage? I'm looking at the 01s for my wife, probably with the KBS Tour Lite.

[@davidrichards4261]

Simon has nailed the problem with matching the lofts. The strong lofted PW means you need an extra gap wedge. Also the 4 iron is a kind of an awkward club. I bought the hybrid set and they are great but I substituted out the 4 iron. And got an extra wedge I would much rather have had 5iron to 48 deg wedge and still bought the 3 and 4 hybrids.

[@clintb1917]

Not related to this video but i wanted to thank you for a video you did a couple of years ago with the 917D2. I bought one based on your recomendation for $120NZD. It transformed my game off the tee and brought me a whole lot of enjoyment in doing so. Just had it reshafted for another $120 and its still keeping up with the OEM big names. So a big thank you SImon from NZ. Keep up the good work.

[@SASGolf]

That’s great to hear mate! Love hearing these stories mate. 🙌

[@Saxbygolf]

I’d love to know what’s inside them too. Ordered a set and the noticed the foam and tungsten claims have been removed from the website… asked and got ignored. So cancelled the order. Just wanted some clarity but got none sadly as I was excited to try them!

[@markgerrie1904]

Your honesty is absolutely fantastic.

[@roejye06]

The inability to try these combined with the loft gapping issues you spoke about, would most likely prevent me from buying these or any similar type. I know that my set 5 iron at 24° is pretty much the limit of my hitting ability. I would have to drop the 4 iron and find something for a gap wedge, which would add to the cost. You talked about a large head with little offset. Anyone looking for that, I highly recommend the Cleveland Launcher xl's, I have those and have them weakened, which reduces offset even more. Plus there are very affordable brand new if you do some digging. I will say that these look good though, and it looks like the recoil shaft may actually work for me (I know looking simply at specs is a bad idea)

[@danielmcclurg554]

I love the fact ypu do mostly 2nd hand golf clubs but it's also great when you review new stuff as well cos you call it how you see it and then still compare them to 2nd hand stuff for alot less 👍

[@karnbass]

Simon asked me to try these at my lesson with him today and they felt as good as the Taylormade and Mizounu !

[@caleygolf]

Wow - thanks for the positive feedback

[@JiKimbo]

Really good video Simon. Not sure i could buy these without trying them. I don't feel competent enough at golf to get a fitting, so happy to buy secondhand, try and if i dont get on with them sell. Or buy from secondhand retailers who let you try them or money back.

[@Pud56]

Grooves are reputed to be an issue with Caley, not tried them. And your point on residual value is a real issue, it isn’t just cost, but what they’re worth at resale. I always treat clubs as on hire, so cost is purchase price less resale when a get rid. Ping hold their value, so often the cost for a few months golf is zero or postage, with some clubs, you just waste your money. As i like to tinker for fun, i play the used market and a pal of mine and I have a hoot on the first tee.

[@SASGolf]

Yeah that’s the way I see clubs and why I promote second hand clubs. Just takes a bit of patience that’s all. To be fair these 01T’s and 01’s sold for pretty good value from what little sold data there is. Time will tell though!

[@paulmcgee1867]

Resale value is an issue for all these direct brands. And Costco

[@mikewilson4371]

Couple of points. Second hand irons have no warranty if they’re over a year old generally (ping excluded) 2-You can get the Caley custom fitted in steel shaft option for length & lie it’s just an extra £50

[@DeonHansen-rb4lo]

Love listening to your reasoning. I love second hand equipment. You don’t like them, sell. And most of the time, for a small profit.

[@AZstu324]

Simon wpuld love to see your take on Maltby. Another reviewer showcased them and they pretty much blew the other DTC's, and some OEM's out of the water. Lower price point but MUCH better quality and results.

[@danroy5883]

I play Maltby irons and found them to be excellent and at least equal to the big name irons I've played. Although I'm very happy with my set I realize that there really isn't any resale value.

[@AZstu324]

@@danroy5883 yeah unfortunately with DTC, no recognition = no resale. Hopefully videos like these will help increase notoriety and eventually help with the resale issue.

[@kakimotoK20]

12:42 I have T200 and 6i toe is very forgiving. I'm coming from AP2 and am shocked at how forgiving they are, really opened my eyes. I didn't like low lofts but learned to club down for everything and added a Cleveland 46*. Now wondering what this would be like with chunkier cavity backs

[@thehairygolfer]

I've found over the years it's not what manufacturer you buy but who you buy it from. Some Pro shops have more enthusiasm than others at delivering service and dealing with the phone. Back in 2017 I was after some Footjoys and they didn't have my size. They said they would order them. 3 months later and still no shoes. I said cancel my order. I went to another Pro shop and they didn't have my size. They picked up the phone to Footjoy and they were delivered the following day. Seems the first Pro just couldn't be arsed to provide any service whatsoever. On a pair of shoes costing £129!

[@SASGolf]

Yeah this is a very true statement pal. 👌

[@mathia34]

I'm interested to see someone have a review of these irons after using them for a while. I got a caley set about 1.5-2 years ago and have found them to dent and wear pretty badly. Ive got the glue coming off my hosel ferrulles as well, plus the bag has worn pretty badly anywhere its been rubbing after me carrying it or where the clubs have been pulled out plus the badge is falling off. Im a fairly new golfer though so i dont know how well you should expect clubs to hold up and how common those issues are. In saying that though, its good to get a full set of shiny new clubs for around £700 at the time when i just started and really had no idea where to start on what a good set is.

[@DanielSmith-ys3ov]

New level 902-os forged players distance irons are the best irons I've hit and I've gamed miuras in the past. Pw 43 but I bent the set 2° weak so the little offset that was there is now gone. The build quality is outstanding and the fitting options on the website are first class. Everything about the purchase was first class. The guy that invented the adjustable hosel created this dtc company

[@punchborg]

So much great used stuff out I wouldn't mess with this type of thing then again I play ping eye 2s

[@andrewainsworth497]

Hi Simon, were Caley previously called Old Tom? I did some testing on the Old Tom equipment a few years ago and some of the product was poor.

[@SASGolf]

Yeah was good called old Tom, I tested their product too back then. Moved on a bit since then though. 👍

[@andynaz5631]

Old Tom was definitely not a good name for a golf equipment company, although it is in referrence to Old Tom Morris.

[@nicktompkins9576]

Just wanted to add to this - I order wedges from Caley and the customer service was top notch

[@douglasgardner4004]

I'm on board with your view of favoring 2nd hand equipment. Great way to experiment. I've played with hollow body irons and cavity backs. For me getting the lofts set up to my swing speed for gapping is the most important thing. I was surprised that cavity back irons work a bit better for me in the long irons over hollow bodies because they give me a bit more spin. The 5 iron gets a bit marginal without enough spin and swing speed. After all the experimenting I'm able to settle down and focus on my game.

[@nickmillar9651]

Think I’ll stay with the Pxg gen 5 irons

[@andybt3989]

So glad I buy Ping! Top customer service.

[@shmirginhymer1867]

I've purchased tons of used, and brand new clubs. Not once did I ever think about calling customer service of any of the companies. 🤔 Unless you've received something new that had a defect. I don't get it. But I also do all of my own repair, gripping, etc.

[@andybt3989]

@@shmirginhymer1867 I’m talking fitting and delivery! A friend had the hosel break on one of his Zing irons and they replaced it no fuss! I guess those with Stealth 2 drivers breaking had to call Taylor Made.

[@AlabamaGolfer]

@@shmirginhymer1867 I’ve only used Ping’s customer service once. I traveled to see my daughter and somewhere along the way, I must’ve cracked my driver shaft. While on the course, the driver shaft snapped on a swing, called Ping, sent them a picture via email, and had a new shaft in just a few days. Obviously a tiny sample size, but I’d imagine others could pile on.

[@richardjohnson5826]

I tried them and couldn't get on with them at all, so I returned them and got my money back with no issues. The service was excellent throughout, and I certainly wouldn't be put off purchasing from them in the future.

[@garydavis8213]

Caley, Takomo, now Ram, Haywood: all Chinese blanks. Kirkland: P790 seconds.

[@Bevin.Jessey_Golf]

Hey Simon, I know youre not the biggest fan of these. But could I have a chance at getting these. I have been playing with a broken Slazenger set for a while and can't afford to get a decent secondhand set. How much would you sell the set for?🙏🙏 P.s. I'm in South Africa, so I would need to ship it😅

[@fretless05]

I have decent speed, but tend to miss right and would love more forgiveness. Is there a more traditional lofted set of irons tghat have more offset and forgiveness or is that combo something that nobody makes?

[@peteconway121]

Try the new RAM FX77 at £299 for 5-pw they are brilliant value for us mid handicappers and a little bit of custom fit as well

[@SASGolf]

Yeah seen those! Be interested to try them to be fair.

[@ianhaddock6834]

​@@SASGolfif your ever around Cheshire I've got the ram fxt irons.Feel free to come try them.. I'm a high handicapper so 260quid saved me plenty of cash for lessons,

[@gregormckinney621]

I was looking at the Caley irons but managed to pick up a brand new set of 2020 P770's for £570 5-pw. 😊

[@caleygolf]

🥺

[@JD-jn5we]

I am a huge fan of the lighter feel! I really want to try these irons and my son who is starting middle school golf

[@nikmc7539]

Get the new Wilson’s. Combo em up how you like. Buttery goodness

[@charlesm783]

Excellent vlog. I have been looking at Takomo and wondering whether I would be better off with a second hand set of p770 or P 790. Currently have cobra f8 for last six years but handicap has come down from 18 to 7. Reluctant to buy something with trying it first.

[@derrickhenry6217]

Try the cobra king tours they're the best in the market.

[@petekenny3774]

Don't buy takomo honestly their not great certain KZbinrs get paid handsomely for using them of course they'll tell you their fantastic I wouldn't go near them

[@charlesm783]

@@petekenny3774 Does that mean you bought some and regreted it?

[@charlesm783]

@@derrickhenry6217 thanks - will take a look at those and forged tec

[@petekenny3774]

@@charlesm783 I just wouldn't buy them at all I prefer a proper fitting as it's so good and trust me you will gain from it ..I'm a 6 handicapper and use srixon irons ..which I highly recommend 👌

[@turbonerd3075]

I keep looking for a new set. But I can’t justify it. Bought used Adams forged xtds and I could get prettier or longer or easier clubs. But none of those replacements are better enough to justify buying new. And I could sell my Adams for more now than I paid for them. $200 used when I bought em, probably get like $250 now on eBay.

[@Ryanlewi17]

I tried these for a couple months because of the price and got to say i didnt like them, groove's arnt deep enough and they mark up so easy, ended up getting some brand new P790's on black friday for £650. They are the 2021 model but brand new so cant go wrong really.

[@nilocdraw3560]

Any chance of you getting some Ben Hogan PTX Tour?

[@craig3775]

I am only 2 minutes into this video and already I know that if I said, “Simon, if I have a £500 budget, can you find me a quality set of irons please?”, I know you wouldn’t get me these 😂

[@watersoilsun847]

Good review, interesting

[@danmartins9407]

I would love to hear your opinion on the other afordable brand: Takomo, as I'm really tempted to get one set

[@nickmillar9651]

I think if your going to play a long time just buy a set that millions of dollars of research has helped you to hit better and last longer and has better resell. Pxg xcor irons are 99 a club custom fit, shaft options, great grip. Hero pricing even cheaper

[@ays0nable]

That Calley and Takomo uses the same factories?

[@jimwocha4949]

Wasn't a fan of the original caley irons i had. They felt cheap and I couldn't launch rhem at all. To be fair i found the aame with Takomo 101s. Now using a set of wilson d9 forged which are much better. The best way to buy a set of irons is ro get fitted but you have to be prepared to pay for the privilege.

[@briandenton2097]

I think everyone just wants to use blades because they are just that sexy. GI iorns are looking more and more like blades these day for that reason. Just use blades and practice good ball contact instead of using a bandaid GI club.

[@loutennant99]

Very honest

[@azcharlie2009]

These sure look a lot like a lot like Takomo clubs. But, they do offer recoil shafts, and that is a definite plus. Unfortunately, that makes the cost over $700 USD. I wonder, though. Why would someone who hits a wedge 145 yards want with these clubs?

[@PirateRemy]

Let's face it..Caley are a beginners / intermediate set and unless you have a consistent repeatable swing then its a good way to start. If you're a serious golfer then you will get fitted for something more suitable as your technique becomes consistent.

[@featherfoot614]

Do yourself s favor and get some Wilson Staff. Between the big boys and DTC new, incredible value second hand.

[@paulhealy2557]

I would want the option of not getting some of the longer irons, say 6-P

[@grahamwilcox4027]

Mizuno don’t charge extra for standard range graphite shafts or grips.

[@caleygolf]

we are changing this soon

[@grahamwilcox4027]

@@caleygolfYes that could help sales, as would the ability to buy individual clubs to try, just a half set or a shorter set. I bought Mizunos 7-GW last year as I use hybrids and fairways rather than long irons. This is the case for lots of older golfers who are potential customers and need new irons but don’t want 4-PW.

[@mineshvaghjiani5757]

My mate picked up a set from Caley direct for £200. Fairly good deal i thought

[@SASGolf]

100 percent mate. 👌

[@chrisb.4496]

Truth will stand the time...

[@autumnstar9475]

Love average golfers having a 30 degree 7 iron and 5 wedges

[@petekenny3774]

Simon....2nd hand wilson irons bargain bargain fantastuc kit

[@petekenny3774]

Personally wouldn't go near any DTC irons ....thought this for a long time along with all the terrible Kirkland stuff nar the gloves ...I don't understand why people spunk 500-600 on the DTC gear ...not getting fitted is a sin

[@petekenny3774]

Simon....the srixon range of irons 2nd hand are so cheap...why people qpuldnt get into them is beyond me ...zx5 zx4 under £500 easy and less

[@lewisdale7530]

It's like everyone is blind that these "direct to consumer" irons are all made straight off the shelf in the china and anyone can literally buy them if they can afford the MOQ! These are good for beginners as they're cheap. Not a tool for a serious golfer

[@thehairygolfer]

Speedfoam isn't anything to do with 'speed'. It's to do with noise, or rather the fact without it they sound like a bean can.

[@SASGolf]

Wouldn’t sound as good, called “sound foam” though would it. 😉

[@thehairygolfer]

@@SASGolf Cover up shit sound foam! Remember those square drivers you could hear from 4 holes away?

[@petekenny3774]

😂😂😂😂😂😂brilliant post spot on

[@Lucky13Twice]

These direct to consumer clubs are engineered by some Chinese non-engineer. Their marketing plan is pay youtubers who have no problem whoring themselves out to say how great the clubs are