What Film Had the Worst Influence?

[@FilmStack]

Since I’m seeing a lot of good discussions in the comments, I wanted to throw out a couple more “worst influences” that I cut out before writing this video: Independence Day (1996) - influenced a lot of soulless epic disaster films. You could say this even leaked into the MCU where every film’s conflict is some end of the world scale issue. Toy Story (1995) - pretty much put an end to 2D animation in the US and Western countries. Of course 3D animation is awesome, it’s just sad how we barely get any 2D animation from the US. Good thing we have anime to satisfy the cravings (Sasageyo!!)

[@yuvrajganguly]

I think Godzilla and King Kong also deserve a mention..... They were created to show the worst of humanity but soon turned into huge monsters punching each other and destroying buildings. So is the movie pioneering monsters and horror; Nosferatu. Also, I think the worst impactful films are those propaganda films made to spread hatred, as pointed out by you, The Birth Of A Nation; but also other classics like Battleship Potemkin and especially the Hitler propaganda films, most significantly Triumph Of The Will and Olympia.

[@cassiecc1811]

You should make a second video! I know I’d enjoy it.

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

OH STOP IT WITH THE BS F💩💩💩-FEST THAT IS THE ANTI CELEBRITY VOICE ACTING GROWN UP MAN-CHILD😈😈😈😈😈

[@Zed-fq3lj]

Make another video on this subject, this one was really interesting 🙌👍

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

plus stupid Spielberg hated the "new hollywood" thing because of Reckless BS!

[@mrflipperinvader7922]

Props for including Jaws from an ecosystem stand point

[@FilmStack]

Yeah definitely one of the most unintentional influences. Guess it shows how good of a horror film Spielberg made. It doesn’t help that even news today is very vocal about shark attacks. I never hear about freshwater snails in the news 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

@@FilmStack PLUS STUPID!This era of American cinema was also criticized for its excessive decadence and on-set mishaps. Even Steven Spielberg, who co-directed/co-produced 1983's Twilight Zone: The Movie with John Landis, was so disgusted by the latter's handling of the deadly helicopter accident that resulted in the death of character actor Vic Morrow and child actors Myca Dinh Le and Renee Shin-Yi Chen, he ended their friendship and publicly called for the end of this era. When approached by the press about the accident, he stated:

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

@@FilmStack NEW HOLLYWOOD WAS POINTLESS IN THE FIRST PLACE TO SOME DIRECTORS BECOME WEINSTEINS!

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

@@FilmStack new hollywood IS LIKE NU METAL! IT WAS A HIP TREAD CREATED BY IDIOTS!

[@oscarstainton]

If we’re talking films with bad influences, even if they were not the first attempts at this kind of movie, The Force Awakens and Jurassic World set off a wildfire of legacy sequels and encouraged studios to get even greedier than before to revive every back-catalogue franchise from the 70s up to the early 2000s. Yes, eventually this phenomenon enabled the conditions for the making of Top Gun Maverick, but both TFA and JW squandered their own potential and ended as poorly thought-out and divisive trilogies.

[@stolensentience]

Jurassic world didn’t do a CC of Jurassic park so gets a pass in my book. Force awakens was a culmination in the trend rather than a blueprint. But its success definitely encouraged even more of it, which JW somewhat did as well. But those trends had already been in full force for awhile. Probably since 1999, the last great year for Hollywood originality in great filmmaking, especially for mid budget masterpieces, but also right before milking every AAA franchise to death.

[@oscarstainton]

@@stolensentience I had to check what you meant about CC, do you mean carbon copy of Jurassic Park like TFA was of Star Wars? If so, I do agree with that sentiment.

[@stolensentience]

@@oscarstainton ye sry im la-z

[@eugeneimbangyorteza]

Scream 5, Halloween, exorcistx, texas chainsaw, even the third Jurassic World all feels like a parody of Force Awakens

[@stolensentience]

@@eugeneimbangyorteza yeah there’s been a lot more of that kinda unoriginality ever since FA, and the Disney takeover in general

[@darkestccino5405]

You forgot to include Shrek for showing the industry how profitable reference humor is.

[@fastrockproductions9788]

Mel brooks sort of was ahead of the game for awhile

[@goldenrose4384]

I'd argue that Shrek's influence was mostly short-term. The movie mainly had an effect on Dreamworks and its animated films between the mid- 2000s and early 2010s. The studio always felt the need to include pop culture references and parodies in their movies. Sure, a few studios like Disney tried to copy them, but they've since moved on to a different style.

[@mggardiner4066]

More animation in general for DreamWorks. Look at some of their prior films like Prince of Egypt, (which they undercut production of sequel to as they began to pivot). They stopped making anything like that for years

[@DomLaBeau]

@@goldenrose4384Nah Shrek changed mainstream Hollywood animation. There is a clear contrast between the “Disney Renaissance” era and the “Shrek era”

[@httm241]

Avatar or MCU opened Pandora’s box for big budget fever

[@FilmStack]

Yeah and we got some great ones for sure the years after but they helped kill mid budget films

[@starsynbeachlamptheunknown5447]

And what’s worse is that not every movie that came out of that was bad but just the overall affect it had was tiresome

[@stewyp5120]

I'd go as far and say Jurassic Park opened the flood gates for the CGI craze, although CGI has been used to great effect, its also been used to produce some of the worst films I've ever seen. Film makers as a whole I feel have become lazy and or reliant on CGi

[@Theagentofchaos-r5q]

Its not those films fault that they were Successful

[@MiyakoPisces4.0]

😑

[@smitty1626]

Marvel making every movie feel the need to add quirky jokes and "uhh that just happened" to too many serious moments.

[@FilmStack]

Yeah very “cheap” jokes ☹️

[@fortynights1513]

Given that, I’m kinda surprised Iron Man isn’t on here.

[@DomLaBeau]

I was 100% fine with “quippy” Marvel dialogue until it showed up in EVERY SINGLE MOVIE.

[@kora4185]

⁠l remember how refreshing this was with Pirate of the Caribbean, then it was _everywhere_

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@kora4185 As inevitably being the case, even many once-popular subjects have become cliche storms that way or via the Seinfeld effect.

[@stephengoold9044]

Not a film, but the 2008 financial crisis making studios risk averse and desiring guaranteed returns lead to the death of mid budget cinema and the endless supply of joyless sequels and remakes we’ve been stuck with for years.

[@fortynights1513]

Nowadays it feels like stories that would be a mid budget movie in the 2000’s and earlier are converted into seasons of very serialized streaming shows

[@Mickey-1994]

You nailed it, that is why 2008 started the worst era of American movies for that reason.

[@ownedbymykitty270]

That coupled with the dramatic rise of China starting in 2008 with the Olympics. Films had to cater more to overseas audiences.

[@alimfuzzy]

Dark knight changed the tone of so many movies, but then also changed the tonenof the comic book industry a lot of the time for the worse.

[@catholiccontriversy]

So true. While I love chain smoking Batman in this interpretation as a way to hide gus identity, now every batman has to be a chain smoker.

[@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667]

Yeahhhhh Its a ver hot take with Batman. Because if you make him lighter you could go cringe. Batman has a dark tone but also a ligther It would say the Batman Brave and the bold and Lego Batman route: You can have a joking happy Batman only if you keep his trauma and his determination. That always works. Lego Batman was a clown but you can see how he was lonely and sad but also was a machine kicking asses and saving the city. Brave and the bold was literally the mentor of many súper heros and made cheesy súper héro puns but was a beast kicking asses and saving the universe.

[@fortynights1513]

How so?

[@lacolem1]

Disagree. If we’re talking about superhero movies taking themselves more seriously, I’m cool with that. A move should be able to be as serious or light as it chooses. And with characters that have been around 70 years, there’s plenty of stories with different tones to choose from The movie with the real harmful influence was Batman Begins, which inspired everything to reboot from a grounded lens. You can make a gritty James Bond movie without starting over, Hollywood. Nolan’s Batman didn’t even try to be as grounded as people claim, anyway

[@catholiccontriversy]

@@lacolem1 "grounded superhero movie" is very relative. There's a lot of "quite improbable" things in the Nolanverse, but nothing "outright impossible" like a species of under the sea humanoids that can communicate telepathically with sea creatures or someone being able to naturally crawl up a wall like an insect, at least from what I remember.

[@greg.soular]

The Dark Knight. Made everyone want superhero movies to realistic and gritty… that’s how we got that awful Fant4stic

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

I totally agree.they ruined batman and other superhero franchises after the nolan movies.

[@TheMovieBuff96]

Unfortunately, Scream (1996) had a pretty awful influence. Studios desperately wanted to copy it's success for years. They would (mostly) only greenlight similar scripts, flooding the market with cheap imitations, or would heavily edit movies (like Disturbing Behavior, and Blair Witch 2) to be as similar as possible. Outside of the film industry, it also influenced copy-cat killers to mimic Ghostface.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Something similar had happened to an infamous Bollywood yandere movie named Daar.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

"Evil cannot create anything new. It can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made." - JRR Tolkien

[@boslyporshy6553]

What is new,invented, or made?

[@IntroMind]

I'd also add Shrek here too. It had a negative influence on 2d animation, essentially killing the medium

[@FilmStack]

We actually made an entire video about Shrek if you want to check it out! We talk about all the positive and negative influence it had for the film industry.

[@maxcooks2963]

This might be a hot take but I think guardians of the galaxy had the worst influence out of all the MCU. Afterwards, it seems rare to see a superhero act with sincerity, and instead everything is played for laughs at theirs or someone else’s expense

[@goose4781]

Absolutely.

[@Delmworks]

Which is deeply ironic because guardians is easily the most sincere out of the lot of them

[@paulinagabrys8874]

This

[@franlovelsimic8421]

Plus it started the "retro"-inspired soundtracks trend.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

Anyone who thinks Guardians ruined Hollywood's ability to tell a sincere story should watch Men in Black. We got one good movie and a lot of tone deaf imitations. Enough succeeded to make "too cool for sincere emotion" the favorite strategy of hacks on time crunch. The MCU used to be able to avoid it. Then demands for more and more content got unrealistic... But even Men in Black wasn't the origin of the problem. It had ruined Batman and Superman already.

[@isaacmartinez6904]

Despite their technical achievements, The Birth Of The Nation and Triumph Of Will are to this day the films that shows evil and horror.

[@darkestccino5405]

I've mentioned this to my friends, but I think that The Simpsons is (or was) an absolutely amazing show, but one that the world is worse off because it exists. The first few seasons of the Simpsons are some of the best adult animation out there. But the influence it has had on animation is horrible. Because of the Simpsons, there is pretty much no non-comedy adult animation series being made in America. Every adult animation series is a comedy out of obligation, to the point where a lot of people consider "animation" to be a genre and not a medium. Simpsons was very edgy for the time period it was released in. But then that kicked off the trend of adult animated series constantly trying to one-up each other in edginess. Family Guy, Mr. Pickle, American Dad, Teenage Euthanasia, and more. It's gotten so extreme that adult animated series are starting to get as close to sexualizing minors as they can without getting sued, and that entire trend really started off with The Simpsons. The effect it has had on real life is harder to quantify. Art imitates life far more than life imitates art, but I'm still inclined to believe it has had some effect on making people be less kind towards one another and less respectful towards their own family based on The Simpsons depiction of reality. Something I can definitely say the Simpsons has had an impact on is the way people view nuclear energy. The Simpsons depicts it as an unquestionably evil industry that always does harm and only exists because of money. When in reality, most of the things The Simpsons depict about nuclear plants haven't been true for decades (they don't dump liquid waste outside plants. Nuclear waste is a solid, and is stored between blocks of concrete away from nature). Nuclear energy is objectively cleaner than fossil fuels, but the Simpsons still tries its hardest to make people think it's the devil and has been doing so for decades now.

[@FilmStack]

Wow never thought about it that way! Maybe we’ll make a TV Shows with the worst influence video in the future to see what else match’s The Simpsons’ influence. Thanks!

[@lucasbakeforero426]

​@FilmStack that would be great! Don't forget to give this amazing comment a shout-out :)

[@me-myself-i787]

There are some options for non-comedy adult animation. Arcane is one, and I think BoJack Horseman is another, though I'm not sure. Also, I don't think a cartoon could be sued for the thing, because there aren't any real kids being depicted. But it would still be a bad idea, even if it's legal.

[@lucas4177]

There had been some great non-comedy animated shows like King of the Hill and Bojack Horseman. But I do get what you saying there are so many bad adults cartoons out there.

[@BingFox]

Primal. Samurai Jack season 5

[@Ethan-ij2hg]

Another trend that I feel originated from the Rocky-Creed series is bringing back legacy characters to ensure a blockbuster. The spider-men, micheal keatons batman and beetlejuice, the last Jurassic Park movie, indiana jones, ghostbusters:afterlife, bad boys 3, matrix 4 and even top gun: maverick. Sure some of these movies were good, but it seems to never end.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

I think Hollywood has been making legacy sequels and remakes since the silent era. Partly because the studios used to dump the originals and then remake them endlessly.

[@kidkangaroo5213]

I actually had Birth of A Nation and Jaws in my mind for the exact named reasons, good video!

[@d-boi9785]

Top gun is literally the definition of finding a passion you never knew you had

[@al.109]

As much as I love the 1st Guardians of the Galaxy film, I feel like it had a bad influence on two fronts: 1. The Comedy: While the MCU prior to Guardians had comedy, Guardians was arguably the film that used the style of humor that the MCU is now known for. More emphasis on quips, self depricating or aware lines, etc. As much as I like the MCU, I will admit that after Guardians 1, the other movies started to slowly abuse this, starting with Phase 3 and especially with the more recent films. Other films from other studios (ex: Theatrical Cut of Justice League, Ghostbusters 2016, The Mummy 2017, Jurassic World Dominion) tried to replicate this style of humor and would not work at all. 2. The Soundtrack: Guardians 1 may not be the first movie to use recognizable songs in the movie itself, but the way the movie used its soundtrack in the story is what started a trend. Guardians 1 came out right around the perfect time. The 2010's saw a big markeable trend of referencing the 80's and sometimes the 90's. This started slowly at the start of the decade with movies like Super 8 and shows like Regular Show, but Guardians unintentionally caused a trend for years to follow in regards to how songs are used in a film. It worked in Guardians because the songs made sense in the scene they're played, they made sense in-universe, and chose songs that actually fit the movie and the scene. But now we have movies that abuse the use of recognizable songs just for marketability reasons. The Super Mario Bros Movie is a recent infamous example, where Universal literally cut some of the already composed music and threw in recognizable songs.

[@bobafett2565]

Let's not forget Shrek influenced many animated movies to forcefully include pop culture influences and mainstream pop music which led to animated movies to taken less seriously causing a decline in serious and dark animated movies the years after. But with the success of the spiderverse movies, puss in boots the last wish, teenage mutant ninja turtles mutant mayhem, and anime movies like demon slayer mugen train and the boy and the heron there could be a chance that studios could have interests in darker edgier and action oriented animated movies. Also lord of the rings War of the rohimmin could be a major success and could help make a positive impact to animation

[@fastrockproductions9788]

I'm glad you mentioned the environmental impact of Jaws as that's something that gets often ignored. For a gripe I have I think general misinformation in a flim is a bad thing in general even if it's for smaller examples because lets be honestly most flim audiences don't do enough investigating on there own to fact check writers. I don't have a particular example of a movie that did this but I hate how the discovery network had an era of misinformation is more profitable than actual facts. Hence the famous megalodon specal or the mermaids special two pieces of fake media that gas lit people for awhile

[@highadmiralbittenfield9689]

Let's make sure our fictional entertainment is 100% factually aligned with real life then. What fun.

[@profesorego6613]

I would add "The incredible Hulk" for introducing the immediate reboot. Before that, if an adaptation or a series of the became unprofitable, studios would wait at least a generation before trying again. Now it's just "Oh, you didn't like our latest Batman? No worries, next year there will be another one"

[@profesorego6613]

Oh, and probably we can thank the Star Wars trilogy for the "let's bring back ancient actors to replay a role they did 30 years ago" trend.

[@profesorego6613]

Sequel trilogy I mean

[@PanteraRossa]

I feel like Nolan's IMAX trend was waaaaaaay more damaging than the Avatar 3D craze. Because of the 3D wave after the first Avatar at least we got Hugo, Life of Pi and Gravity winning back to back cinematography and visual effects Oscars blending the two together as seamlessly as it ever had. One could argue outside of Nolan's films, and maybe Ghost Protocol, the IMAX Hollywood releases have mostly been gimmicks where very little IMAX footage is actually in the end film and even then, it's not necessarily utilized specifically for its format the way others have done in the past. IMAX tickets are also a major ticket premium inflating box office. Funnily enough, the best large format movies since the Nolan started the trend are non-IMAX: Roma and Bardo which both had 70mm releases and screenings all over the world but because it's from big bad Netflix we can't praise them for it lol. They're also entirely shot in 65mm as opposed to only selected sequences like Nolan and most IMAX "productions".

[@trevorriches136]

The second “Hunger Games” and “Star Trek” films also both had some really cool IMAX 70mm footage. Nolan has actually shot exclusively on various 65mm stocks and cameras since “Dunkirk” in 2017 (except for “Oppenheimer”, which did have less than a handful of shots on Super35). Also, while both “Bardo” and “Roma” were presented in 70mm, they were both entirely digital shoots on the ARRI Alexa at 6.5K, mastered in 4K.

[@Monkey_Boy9602]

Y'know, if it wasn't for "Jaws", I'd have never learned as much as I have about sharks! When I saw it on late night television at only 10 years old, it terrified me, but it wasn't long after that when I decided to find out if sharks really attacked people like Bruce did. While I discovered that it was indeed somewhat based on a true event that happened in New Jersey all the way back in 1916, I also learned that there are many different sharks and only a few of them could be considered "man eaters". While the Great White is a mighty predator and awesome in every way, I personally love the Port Jackson Shark. It just looks so weird, but not creepy weird like the Goblin Shark. It also has a mouthful of crazy looking molars because it eats crustaceans. As you can read, it actually had the opposite effect on me. I became an advocate for sharks after I saw it!

[@temperingtantrum]

I just showed my bf a picture of a Port Jackson Shark. He said it's the most terrifying shark he's ever seen. A great white's teeth are scary, but at least you'd die quickly. The idea of being slowly gnawed to death is terrifying to him. And now to me.

[@Monkey_Boy9602]

@@temperingtantrum You'd actually have to work pretty hard to get it to bite you. You'd more than likely accidentally step on it, puncturing your foot on one of it's dorsal spines, and end up with venom running through your leg giving you an intense pain like you've never felt before!

[@colvynharris9138]

American Psycho had a bunch of losers on instagram and TikTok to start the trend of sigma male.

[@FilmStack]

Haha I was gonna mention this one, a lot of “alpha male” vids about it

[@scapeagoat2520]

What zero media literacy does to a mfer

[@HumanThing-fm6xt]

It’s so ironic how the people it was criticizing wound up being their biggest fans. Goes to show how many lack self awareness.

[@1012-v9r]

That trend is very innocuous, and if that's the worst you can think of, then idiots like you have no problem.

[@berlineczka]

Fight Club as well.

[@TheFunkMaestro]

Though it is a bit more subtle than some of these, I'd like to throw out Triumph of The Will (1935). A piece of Nazi propaganda (and perhaps the only significant piece of film to come out of the Third Reich), it's had a lasting influence on the way we portray Nazi's (and Nazi-analogous villains) in film. The way movies portray Nazis is often in the exact way the Nazis themselves would *want* to be portrayed and seen. While I can't say that's as creatively detrimental as, say, the glut of Disney live action remakes, it feels a little unsettling to me that we remember such a horrible regime through the lens of its own propaganda.

[@michaelpfogerty]

Unless you were there, in the theater, watching The Blair Witch Project in 1999, you probably don't get why it was brilliant. The only other found footage horror film by that point was Cannibal Holocaust, and most people never even heard of that one. So, Blair Witch was uniquely fresh and genuinely horrifying at the time of its release, ESPECIALLY watching it on the big screen 🔥

[@joshslater2426]

It’s also technically the most profitable film ever made since it was shot on a low budget and made loads of money back. That’s probably inspired a generation of amateur filmmakers making terrible horror movies.

[@Turtle152]

The release of "Fast Times At Ridgemont High" on premium cable in 1983 led directly to increased use of the words "dude" and "awesome." We're still dealing with the fallout forty years later.

[@stolensentience]

Cmon dude that movies awesome

[@Turtle152]

I saw what you did there @@stolensentience

[@MrSeedi76]

The Nightmare on Elm Street remake is far better than its reputation.

[@adezzyade]

This is a well thought out video essay. I never thought about some of these movies this way

[@FilmStack]

Thank you! Originally I was gonna make it on how The Blair Witch Project, Saw and Avatar negatively affected the industry for a decade but as I continued researching more and more films worth talking about showed up so I made this instead. Think most of the films in this video could have their own deep dive videos on their impact on the industry.

[@adezzyade]

@@FilmStack I think it will be interesting with a part two. For example how studios wanted to do their own dark and gritty takes on their superhero IP after The Dark Knight. I.e Fant4stic, Man Of Steel etc. Or Fincher signing a deal with Netflix which has caused a lot of auteurs to go the streaming route for the release of their latest films with a lack of a theatrical window

[@mssadness8290]

Ok but for the hunger games it worked story wise because that’s what it was like for her, a violent blur where she could only really get small glances at what was going around while panicking and running for her life. Like idk I felt like the frantic movement were perfect indicators of how she was perceiving her world

[@Minority119]

It always kinda reminded me of the bourne series and, i think it was either a comic ir a fanfic, where jt stated hoe the jittery and messy fights were actually how people around the agents saw the fight but ti the agents themselves it was a normal type of fight Granted it's not the same as if it was actually filmed but still

[@shinndig1293]

Michael Bay’s Transformers, Twilight and Venom come to mind.

[@HugoSoup57]

The difference between those and a lot of other landmark films is that those were never good films to begin with.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

I think the twilight books are just as so bad they’re good as the movies.

[@shinndig1293]

@@HugoSoup57The first Transformers movie isn’t that bad but the sequels just completely tarnished & and squandered what could have a fun franchise.

[@stephengoold9044]

1978 Halloween success setting off the trend of countless low budget low effort slasher schlock, culminating in horror becoming a caricature of itself.

[@FilmStack]

Yeah this was one of the ones I was gonna mention! But I was gonna use Friday the 13th as the one who really made slashers formulaic

[@wghd6782]

Bohemian Rhapsody, just because of the mostly not good musical biopics that came flooding afterwards

[@draugrdraugr]

Worst current trend has got to be superheroes. Millions and Billions being spent on D list superheroes that no one recognizes for films and tv. No variety really in what they're doing what so ever. Meanwhile lots of other genres are being completely ignored and lack funding and promotion

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Haven’t you thought about a time period when there was a trend more infamous than the bad superhero film fatigue that we have for a couple of years now? It was the Mowgli/Tarzan/Bomba inspired jungle hero trend. Its biggest adherents? The in name only Tarzan talkies (1932-48), the first Jungle Book film adaptation (1942), which is also the first major jungle movie in colour, and the (also in name only) Bomba the jungle boy films (1949-55). All are movies with a terrible influence on what we think about jungle heroes even today.

[@JBravoEcho09]

I think the thing that's the most frustrating from any success in Hollywood is that the money guys always "learn" the wrong lessons. Like it's never about a movie just having good writing, solid to excellent casting/acting, and/or even just meeting the moment or defining the zeitgeist, there always has to be some boneheaded takeaway lesson that will produce results, because results always mean something right? Maybe it's just our drive to see patterns in clouds, but it's seriously annoying to the point where I almost dread any movie (especially one I like) becoming popular because it will inevitably lead to watered down facsimiles that are a shadow of the originator.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Maybe some money guys make mockbusters as a response to the bigger budget movies and their sources.

[@boslyporshy6553]

They learn through the money, not the product. Seems like audiences going for the most generalized or relatable type of movie contributes to this as the number of movies increases.

[@jileskorey1105]

What's hilarious is that while our society fears sharks, it glorifies dolphins. In reality it should be switched: Dolphins are the demons of the sea while sharks are just giant fish with sharp teeth.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Sharks are still dangerous, if not as definitely devious as dolphins.

[@HazelDell]

In my opinion, The Little Mermaid not doing well was due to a number of factors, not just because it was another live action remake.

[@fortynights1513]

No doubt, but the stated reason didn’t help either

[@imabrick6066]

Home alone caused an increase in home injuries due to kids watching the film and trying to recreate the traps without being aware of the real world consequences as no one is seriously injured in the film.

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

I've seen people argue than _Top Gun_ even more than _Star Wars_ is the patient zero of the "movies are more park rides than stories" trend that Martin Scorssesse recently criticized... I personally would point more to _Independance Day_ than _Top Gun_ as the direct ancestor of the current blockbuster

[@stolensentience]

Independence Day actually had good writing and acting though.

[@stolensentience]

@K.C-2049 much better than top gun. And it nothing else it’s paced very well with above average dialogue. Top gun is a snorefest while also being completely vapid.

[@thebestwingsfan]

One that no one talks about but has probably the most significant worst influence is Michael Cimino's Heaven's Gate from 1980. Probably the worst behind the scenes for any film ever, mostly from Cimino's notorious directing job, which caused it to go massively over budget and several release postponements to become one of the biggest box office flops of all time and effectively ending the era of director driven productions for more studio controlled products.

[@rig-zag]

Before I even started watching this I anticipated that Avatars influence on 3D films would be featured prominently. I actually love 3D flicks and believe they've gotten a bad wrap in recent years. Immediately following Avatar there were a ton of films that were rushed through early 3D post conversions that were admittedly pretty weak and shameless cash grabs by studios. And I totally understand why people became disillusioned with 3D after so many of these shoddy 3D films inundated the market. By the time (2014-ish) 3D post conversion technology improved to the point where it was as good, if not superior to, natively shot 3D, many people were tired of the format. In my opinion many of the most impressive 3D features were released between 2014 and 2018, although sadly most people missed out on seeing these in 3D. There are still some great films released every year in this format, despite its waning popularity. However, 3D has been around since the earliest days of cinema, and its popularity is clearly cyclical, as it does add another element to filmmaking when done properly.

[@loganmedia4401]

3D was always primarily a gimmick to lure people into the cinema. The best 3D films for me were the ones that went overboard with the effect, because that's really the only reason to bother most of the time. At least until someone comes up with actual 3D. The finicky and fake looking thing we call 3D now is hardly worth the extra hassle and expense.

[@Captain_Mercury]

Shrek killed 2d animation so if say thats probably the film with the worst influence it also popularized celebrity voice actors in movies

[@jefftakesdscakes30]

What about aladin

[@Captain_Mercury]

@@jefftakesdscakes30 Aladin is where it's started and post Shrek is where it became a problem

[@Isa-154]

also the fairytale spoof movie thing other studios tried

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@Captain_Mercury actually Disney’s Pinocchio had celebrity voice actors. It was made in 1940, much earlier than Aladdin.

[@mlgodzilla4206]

Jurassic Park have a bad influence on cloning. You’ll always hear “there’s 6 movies saying why that’s a bad idea” even though the point of the movies was how bad hubris and greed is.

[@PogFrogy1210]

Honestly the first hostel movie is very underated

[@stolensentience]

I’d argue the third one is. The first one was kinda bland/predictable to me as a kid, but the third one actually captivated me and capitalized well on some general phobias. I thought the gore was pretty earned as well.

[@fredererpower]

I know you mentioned in another comment that you considered including some alpha male films for the final category (Influence Outside of Film) but decided not to include them, but there are two that you really should have: - Taxi Driver (1976). This caused a literal presidential assassination attempt (Reagan) to happen because the assassin (John Hinckley Jr.) was inspired by Travis Bickle and his actions in the film. He was also infatuated with Jodie Foster, who was in the film as a child prostitute and made the attempt simply to impress her (only it had the opposite effect because duh). - Fight Club (1999). You briefly mentioned that it started a lot of Fight Clubs around America but it also caused alpha males to finally find their true role model: Tyler Durden. Of course, there’s others like Travis Bickle, Walter White, Tony Soprano and Arthur Fleck (from Joker, which coincidentally was also inspired by Taxi Driver) but Tyler Durden was, and still is, the character most associated with alpha males, tied with Patrick Bateman from American Psycho (2000). If an alpha male had one movie poster to hang up, it would without a doubt be Fight Club.

[@SalveASMR]

These are interesting topics. Awesome channel bro

[@ThatOneDoesntCount]

It’s Star Wars. It’s one of my favourite movies of all time, but the roll-on effect of the overwhelming success of Star Wars has lead to the blockbuster-ridden hellscape we know today

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Same. I guess any successful pre-1960s Tarzan adaptation may also have a role in what has become a blockbuster period. Especially the in name only talkies which are more disneyfied than even the Disney’s Tarzan franchise which followed much later from 1999 afterwards.

[@hypocritehaterofficial3283]

This is a really good video. I remember thinking about this question in my head. I’m glad there are good video on it.

[@elbombrose1913]

IT changed peoples outlook of clowns ... clowns were always fun & kid friendly.... now.. clowns are a normal staple in Halloween year after year after year..

[@lonellfletcher]

It kills me that The Little Mermaid live action remake might be the one to make Disney rethink the trend because its actually one of the best ones out of the group.

[@FilmStack]

Yeah so many worse ones before it, but it’s just not been a good year for bigger budget films at the box office. It’s getting really hard for them to make a return so we should see some big shifts these next couple years.

[@autisticdancer]

Oh yeah definitely! The Little Mermaid live action, when you just watch it on it’s own merit with minimal comparisons to the original, is actually a pretty good movie all things considered! I hate how much backlash it’s gotten just for being a live action remake even when it’s probably one of the best of the bunch. Is it unnecessary to make again? Yeah, probably. But I swear some people treat it like a war crime for just existing and it’s just like- chill… If you don’t want to watch it, don’t watch it…

[@HoboGaming]

Haven't gotten into the video yet but I hope Jaws is mentioned. People have hated sharks for decades because of that movie. Humans hunting sharks increased dramatically after that films release. Sorry sharks.

[@stolensentience]

You won’t be/weren’t disappointed.

[@a.ychristian3562]

Beyond the "universing" of several films, another influence that the MCU has had is dejecting serious moments with quips and sarcasm. It's a trope that works great in sitcoms but on the big screen it comes across very cheap and lazy.

[@guymartin183]

Continuing with the idea of Avengers being for the industry by having studios think all of their movies had to be a cinematic universe, I’d argue Age of Ultron has harmed movies, mainly comic book movies, for creating what is now MCU humor. I feel that film specifically has what most consider “MCU humor” namely Cap’s “language” remark to Tony. And while movies before had humor it was much more tame, and afterwards it still wasn’t as bad as some newer MCU projects are, you can definitely see a shift following Age of Ultron. Continuing, you can then see its effects on the then virginity DCEU. Regardless of opinions, Snyder did have a specific mood he portrayed in Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice, but following their poor reviews, execs then went in to make Suicide Squad more akin to the guardians of the galaxy instead of the gritty film Ayer wanted, and then bringing in Joss Whedon to do reshoots and post on Justice League.

[@Vor567tez]

Jaws definitely in spot 1 for worst influence. It's influence wasn't only limited to screen but also beyond it, in real life. Still to this day , people r in fear of sharks and it doesn't help with Discovery like channels coming up with "killers" , "monster" title to document the wildlife. Also the Indian Jones contributed in uprise of pseudo archeology. But definitely full credit goes to the terrible Ancient Alien show on History..Why even that channel is named 'History'? I think early 2000s - 90s-80s was most confusing time for the audience bcs alot of new , innovative, never heard before ideas got tapped in by Hollywood and since they were only interested in making sensational stories for money. Most were given dark overlay. Like in creature horror- shark, dinosaur . AI, exorcism, virus, time-travel. At that time due to low access to accurate information people end up believing the movies and thus lots of myth, hoax was born. Especially shows like Ancient Aliens, Zeitgeist and whole plethora of sci-fi time travel documentry show.

[@stolensentience]

That’s all just due to a Judaic/Christian/Islam-dominant demographic/age. It will never go away.

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

The difference between the films as opposed to the films which influenced them is talent and common sense. I think the issue is people see something is popular and think they can do that and become a success through it and sometimes you can but mostly you don't. You need talent and a fresh take and good scripts and all the rest to make it work, you can't just go "MCU is popular let's make a universe and that will equal a gorillion dollars".

[@austinhuber3131]

I love videos like this. Even if I don't agree, it's still interesting to hear you out.

[@ThomasCuerden]

The funny thing is, the MonsterVerse probably has the approximate same hit rate as the MCU did in it's prime (mostly good, with 1 or 2 duds), it's just, ironically, much smaller in scale.

[@heisen-bones]

Star Wars and Jaws definitely had the worst impact on the film industry. Both are masterpieces though, don't get me wrong your videos are very well made! I'm surprised you don't have 100k subs yet!

[@JSChronicle489]

I would also put The Lego Movie on here which in my opinion started 2 horrible trends 1. The making of movies based on random ips which included horrible films such as The Emoji Movie and The Playmobil Movie 2. The inclusion of various Ips in one movie, this one could also go to Ready Player One as well. But anyway the inclusion of various ips in both movies likely lead to movies such as Ralph breaks the internet, Space Jam 2 and Chip n Dale (Tbh I kinda like that movie) and most of those movies were poorly received mainly for not really having a story but instead shoving references down people’s throats

[@oliviab4079]

I think it's safe to say that Shrek (2001) also had unintended, negative consequences in the film industry on the animation side of things. Not only did it cement CG animation as the more profitable medium of animation in comparison to 2D (really riding on the tailcoats of Pixar) but it also ushered in a wave of more crass, arguably lazier, animated films with innuendos aimed at adults and toilet humor aimed at children. It can be argued it spawned other studios to follow in its footsteps like Blue Sky and Illumination that aimed more at a low-brow approach to stories instead of pushing what the medium was capable of. Prince of Egypt was released only three years before Shrek and its frankly insane to reconcile both films came from the same studio as they offer such wildly different takes on what the animation medium can accomplish. I think only *now* are we beginning to overcome all that ever since Spiderverse (2018) hit the scene which was absolutely a positive influence on the industry. We're experiencing a renaissance of creative innovation in its wake.

[@arturocastroverde3349]

I disagree, both Dreamworks and Pixar relased some of the best animated movies ever in the 2000s, for every Shark Tale there was a Kung Fu Panda or a Wall-E

[@Shindai]

imo the shaky cam and fast cuts in the Bourne identity contradicted the character. Whole point of the thing was him realising he's had training and is a badass. I don't think he'd be all that stressed in a one on one, even against a dude armed with a pencil. It was a hard fight but I think the cardio conditioning he already demonstrated and his evident skills would also mean he'd be more cool under pressure. I think he'd feel more in control than the shaky cam being strapped to an epileptic gerbil and kicked into the room. It worked better in Batman Begins because Batman was outnumbered and while trained, the odds were way against him, so I think it's more appropriate there - it showed Batsy was under stress and almost overwhelmed, but that he could work through it, adding to the character and such. It also helps I can see wtf is going on in the Batman movies, which I couldn't in the Bourne movies :p Shaky cam is a crutch almost never used well.

[@loganmedia4401]

But in those fight scenes where it was used in the Bourne films he was up against a challenging opponent and many times in a very challenging environment. It's also necessary for the fights to present a challenge, because otherwise they'd just end up boring or looking too fantastical. The main thing with shaky camera movement is how it is used though. The Bourne films did not feel like the camera was just being moved around for the sake of it or to hide poor choreography or an inability of the participants to perform the moves.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

Can’t believe you would say that the Avatar 3D wave was bad when it created jackass 3D, which is peak cinema. 10/10 bring back a useless 3D boom

[@brainafkstube5393]

G-Force's usage of 3D was revolutionizing

[@RABartlett]

To be fair to TCM, horror movies have always been subject to remakes, it's just now we're getting to a point where it' harder to make a horror film that's strikingly different from one that came out 30 years ago, than an old school Universal monster movie. Which reminds me: People blame JAWS and especially STAR WARS for the kinds of movies that would be made, but a lot of "adult dramas" were making bank, even if they weren't at the level of subversion that say, DOG DAY AFTERNOON was. And even sci-fi blockbusters like E.T. and BACK TO THE FUTURE didn't feel like pre-programmed home runs the way tentpoles do now. I want to say it was BATMAN and TERMINATOR 2 that truly turned blockbusters into a fair accompli. I think T2 also played a big part of franchise culture. In the old days, for the most part sequels were things were made as sort of victory laps, with the understanding it would be diminishing returns. A second Terminator really incentivized the idea of not only bringing another round, but making it bigger. I think Austin Powers's legendary video afterlife and subsequent box office bump also signaled this was a new era, in my opinion, firmly cemented with THE MUMMY RETURNS. A not particularly beloved sequel to a movie that was not really a huge cultural phenomenon breaking records. The video largely goes after movies who's success were a big influence, but for every hit that makes studios greedy you got to look at the failures that made them gunshy. First, let's talk about GLADIATOR (in turn making itself a contender for the list), which of course, was a success, but it inspired a host of sword and sandals movies and a few historical epics in other time periods (A couple being romances taking cues from TITANIC). This was looked at a way to both make money AND collect awards hardware. It came to a head in 2003 where MASTER AND COMMANDER, THE LAST SAMURAI and COLD MOUNATIN all competed, and performing weakly in the states, with only M&C coming close to awards traction. 2004 was the moderately successful but not well-liked TROY, the flop of KING ARTHUR, and the outright punchline ALEXANDER. By 2005, KINDOM OF HEAVEN and MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA saw a trend that was over almost as soon as it began, but it had a really deleterious effect. With studios throwing their weight behind expensive bombs, this saw a vacuum where the smaller, mini-major arthouse fare thrive. While this is not necessarily a bad thing, studios learned that the less they spent on prestige fare, the more street cred they got, and if nobody took to it, no harm no foul, no Jay Leno monologue. This saw the "movie for adults" become much more niche. But there WAS a movie that was both a swords and sandals movie, and outside the studio system, and I would argue the most harmful movie of the last 30 years: PASSION OF THE CHRIST. Studios balked at Gibson's movie because it was gory, in a dead language, and had possibly anti-Semitic undertones. Gibson made it with his own money, and showed them all, with the biggest R-Rate hit of all time. Now, nine out of ten times proving studios heads are cowards who don't know what they're doing is a good thing. But Gibson courted a much more reactionary base than independent cinema usually gets, which on some level put studios in a difficult spot, because it meant to keep the box office tickets flowing they had to cater to the freshly coined "Red State" audiences, for whom feel good stories with Tom Hanks weren't going to cut it anymore. The movie hit a fissure point in a very polarizing time, and it's been hard to make four quadrant, even solid double, movies without blue sky beams ever since.

[@stolensentience]

Bravo to this comment

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@stolensentience I think Popeye and Tarzan must’ve started a lot of Hollywood film (and also fellow franchise related) crazes as far as the 1920s-30s. Heck, they even invaded tv screens in the 1950s-60s together.

[@Tyoxy]

Another great video from you!

[@FilmStack]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! 🙂

[@Jing737]

I heard Natural Born Killers had people actually re-creating scenes in real life and crime and murder went up after it's release

[@aleksikoivuporras3781]

Hunger Games is the reason we will never get a Battle Royale remake/adaptation. Because, executives think people will compare Battle Royale to it; despite Battle Royale creating the genre.

[@foggy1646]

I feel like Suicide Squad started the trend of quirky and stylized character intros and chapters.

[@marcusviniciuswenzel9445]

These are the films that had the worst influence on the history of cinema, THE TRIUMPH OF THE WILL 1935 and THE BIRTH OF A NATION 1915

[@yuvrajganguly]

Might add Olympia as well

[@thesixfootsixexperience8781]

The generous use of Jack Nicholson’s nod in this makes this an S tier vid for me

[@javi__...]

Xmen or spiderman started the whole comic book movie thing in the early 2000s. Ironman was really made them all in on it.

[@nickchier6313]

I think there is a new trend in recent years of directors creating movies that reflect on their art’s influence on society and the medium. I think of the Oppenheimer, the fabelmens, asteroid city, to name a few, but it really feels like a growing trend from established filmmakers

[@Bogdan-jz2fr]

Could have been more on superhero genre. It is completely unnecessary and not interesting. You've done good work on this video.

[@michaelhurley3171]

In all seriousness, Triumph of the Will had the worst influence. Well made movie that glorified a truly evil man. Good video!

[@jimmyboy7817]

I would say the Star Wars Special editons because they encouraged directors to fix "aint broke " movies that didn't need fixing. Case in point: E.T. 20th anniversary addition which Steven Spielberg apologised for altering earlier this year.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

That’s interesting.

[@tronam]

Spielberg's speech about the dangers of altering past work is great and something everyone should read.

[@joshslater2426]

I don’t mind the special editions. In fact, since they were the versions I grew up on, I prefer them over the original versions. What I don’t like is censoring old movies for something that didn’t age well or reflects the time, such as Disney cutting that credits gag in Toy Story 2 with Stinky Pete and two Barbie dolls.

[@jeffpestano1296]

Finally a KZbin video that got it right. These movies destroyed an art form. Only thing left out is streaming.

[@zakuraiyadesu]

Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!

[@liltick102]

The irony of the film brats’ success - particularly with Jaws had an immense ripple effect on box office expectations

[@stolensentience]

Great vid, not disappointed by any entry.

[@Ramsornator]

American Psychos influence on teenagers is the worst thing coming out of an otherwise great movie

[@petermj1098]

People who idolize Arthur Fleck, Travis Bickle and Patrick Bateman ironically miss the point of the films lol

[@heisen-bones]

imagine their horror upon realizing who directed the film, and who wrote the book which was adapted into the movie

[@TheStarGhost]

@@petermj1098and the Narrator /Tyler Durden from Fight Club

[@anubusx]

People idolize Tyler Durden

[@GregHuffman1987]

im kinda glad the universal monster universe failed if only because Invisible Man (2020) was superb because of that

[@anubusx]

Universal want to do a Mummy prequel.

[@GregHuffman1987]

@@anubusx they could call it Daughter

[@anubusx]

@@GregHuffman1987 lol.

[@legometaworld2728]

It’s horrifying that the racist nature of Birth of a Nation was never acknowledged at least as late as when Spike Lee was taught about and shown the film in film school.

[@Ezrumas]

Final Destination 2 and logging trucks.

[@RudieObias]

Most, if not all, of these movies are box office hits, which means people are going to the theater to watch them. Hollywood is a business and some decisions are driven by money. I just don't see what's wrong with that, if people are watching these movies in theaters. If they weren't success, then they wouldn't have made money 🤷🏽‍♂

[@michaelagbeti5904]

Excellent video you guys.

[@yondie491]

I think it's wrong to blame Jaws for the safety of the 80s. Blame Heaven's Gate, not the successful blockbusters. When a single auteur can financially destroy an entire studio... it isn't greedy to play it safe.

[@p_ttown1979]

as far as outside of film it’s hard to argue birth of a nation NOT being the worst influence

[@seanramsdell4117]

2:15 Also the winner of the first John Cassavetes Award at the Independent Spirit Awards

[@fartemis]

I think The Lego Movie comes to mind as a good film with a bad influence on the industry. At it's core, The Lego Movie was a story about emotion, but it still sold A LOT of toys, and other companies thought that partnering up with an animation studio to make another "The ________ Movie" with their product in it was a key to success. The problem is, The Lego Movie still cared about being a good movie while these ripoffs, such as The Angry Birds Movies, UglyDolls, The PlayMobil Movie, Trolls, HotWheels and even a Tonka Truck film was made for the sole purpose of toy profits. Even Lego themselves made a really bad Lego Ninjago Movie to capitalize on the success of their films.

[@joshslater2426]

The Lego Movie was great though, and we can all admit it was better than expected. The Ninjago movie is ok too, provided that you’re not very knowledgeable on the original show (the animation was really good though).

[@andresacosta4832]

I'm honestly surprised Transformers isn't on here considering it influenced a lot of the look and feel of effects-driven action films of the late 2000s/early 2010s i.e. the "teal and orange" color grading, really busy and complicated CGI designs, juvenile humor... ...then again a lot of those issues (among others) have roots in other films, even in things like Bourne, Star Wars, and Top Gun.

[@wyatth2992]

Birth of a Nation was even played at the White House by Woodrow Wilson (D), a leader in the Progressive Party.

[@wietzejohanneskrikke1910]

I think The Exorcist had the worst influence not only on the film industry but also on a societal level. It didn't only start a trend in movies centered on demonic possession and other paranormal shlock, but it had an enormous influence of what people actually believe and are afraid of. It also set a trend into motion on the idea that cute, prepubescent girls are evil and dangerous.

[@PiTjlang]

SCARFACE cultural fallout & human suffering from criminals, drug gang, & rappers romanticizing and replicating its warped ideals & aesthetics --is WITHOUT a parallel

[@titanfreestylept736]

A very thought provoking video.

[@n.tudorica7232]

I would argue that Nolan's movies are guilty of spoiling this generation's taste in cinema so for me they are the worst influence movies of 21st century

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

I agree that he ruined superhero movies and whatnot but he has great films.

[@Mrcharrio]

Whatever Films that started the whole, Sky Beam, Master Vampire/Enemy and the one that started the Enemies can only be aliens or robots so heroes won't feel bad taking them out.

[@FilmStack]

I think Independence Day played a part in that

[@notthegreatestdetective]

my personal least favorite influence would be Aladdin or other films that inspired the idea of "just hire big name celebrity" not only for voice work but just in general, movies should cast actors based on if they're right for the role not if they bring in audiences, at least to me

[@JeffreyDeCristofaro]

There's more than one reason why the time-honored idiom, "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery", has lost all meaning and all credibility... and not just in MY book.

[@AbstractEntityJ]

Probably either The Force Awakens, The Avengers, or Avatar.