What Final Destination Gets Wrong About Roller Coasters - Theme Park Nonsense

The roller coaster scene in Final Destination 3 and in the Fox TV show 911 are some of the most inaccurate portrayals of roller coasters in pop culture, today well be breaking down the scenes and explaining what they get wrong.
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[@MSinistrari]

Final Destination 3 at least has the excuse that Death will get as elaborate as possible to reinforce the death pattern. 911's just a mess of a show.

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

I don't actually like final.destination I think its extremely boring lol

[@TheFunnyPenguin]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odI only watch them for the gore

[@SuperTrains2024]

Agreed

[@hoosiercoasterfan2655]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od I thought the first one was really fun (though also unrealistic as hell), but they got kinda repetitive after that (I still love them). I did like the plot twist towards the end of the 5th one though.

[@alaeriia01]

This is true. Death in FD is a conscious entity that will move the heavens and the earth to make sure His design is followed. Doesn't change the fact that that's not how any of that works.

[@PauwerFurry]

as a firefighter and coaster enthusiast I can absolutely promise you that 911 makes absolutely zero attempt to depict any incident with any type of realism ESPECIALLY from the first responder side. It’s probably the most sad show I’ve ever been so unfortunate to witness. I’d definitely recommend checking out some of Fire Department Chronicles’s videos on the show, they’re hilarious even to people with no first response experience.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

ironic, as rhetoric have the former chief of the Los Angeles fire department as an advisor

[@preadatordetector]

I am totally unsurprised by this assessment.

[@Beelzebubby91]

I’m not even a first responder and I couldn’t make it through to the end of that show lol. I guess the more you take the time to learn about how these guys do their jobs, the less entertaining those types of shows get. I can’t imagine how far first responders eyes roll back in their skull watching these 😂 It’s like they deliberately made an effort to make it as unrealistic as possible

[@ungesagt]

I really love the show Feuer und Flamme. Here, real firefighters are accompanied to real operations without sensationalism. It is very informative.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

@@Beelzebubby91nah cause it’s unrealistic to us too, the special effects are so bad and any anti cop characters are portrayed as whiny brats who refuse to allow themselves to be helped, so it’s also copaganda

[@danamarie2970]

That guy who flew out in the 911 scene LITERALLY flew out! LMAO. It was like he had Superman powers and flung himself out. lol

[@rachelgoldenburg2241]

He had his arms in the Superman position and everything!

[@protoborg]

It was also very obviously not even a stunt man as you can see the fakeness of the movements. It is a dummy of some kind.

[@jkdking12]

I didn't know 911 had a Superman. He clearly heard someone cry for help and couldn't wait for the ride to end.

[@MontagnaMagica]

MY PLANET NEEDS ME!!!

[@Zachary6500]

You make a compelling case, but have you considered the possibility of a rider cheating death and the Grim Reaper needing to collect what he's owed?

[@lumarc5513]

lol

[@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8]

Death in a hardhat building the worst rollercoaster ever made

[@koresoteira447]

Yeah, it feels like the whole point of the movie was lost here...

[@terg8472]

@@koresoteira447 some people stray away from coasters cause of that scene

[@dynamitewolft4194]

them getting off the roller coaster was them cheating death

[@Happymali10]

I wrote an article some time ago about the Smiler-Accident, and in research found out that the responders had actual trouble forcing the restraints open after the accident, so...yeah they really don't open "at random", they're almost too solid for their own good.

[@Mikowmer]

On most of those rides, the restraints have multiple levels of redundancy. If you're not in the station, you are not going to be getting someone out of the ride easily.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

One big thing I noticed was, they couldn't decide if the coaster in Final Destination had upstop pads or upstop wheels, as it keeps changing between shots. A real coaster like that would definitely have upstop wheels.

[@owenjohn1192]

WTF| are up stop pads? never heard of them!

[@masontheis4489]

@@owenjohn1192They serve the same purpose as upstop wheels, but aren’t featured on any modern coasters. Older arrow non-looping coasters, including Magnum XL-200 had upstop pads when they opened. They did the same thing as up stop wheels, but caused a lot of stress when they slammed up into the track on a ride with powerful airtime like Magnum. So they were pretty quickly replaced by upstop wheels.

[@dindog22]

Gemini has upstop pads. last time I checked, it's a real roller coaster. Magnum also had them when it first opened but they changed to upstop wheels shortly thereafter. too many sparks

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@dindog22 When I said "a real coaster like that" I meant a real coaster like the one featured in the movie. Gemini doesn't have any loops.

[@sleepdeep305]

@@dindog22 Yup, I love Gemini's inversions, they're so well executed for an Arrow.

[@Gabriel_PL]

Mechanisms designers on horror films: Skaven Mechanisms designers in reality: Dwarves

[@scottbuck1572]

Deep grudges and all

[@kabob0077]

HEY-HEY! WE PUT ALL OUR BEST-GOOD WORK INTO OUR GEAR-EQUIPMENT!

[@Mekaniac]

Six Flags Skavenblight

[@cleeiii357]

Brothers of the mine rejoice!

[@dmlfan928]

What's sad is you just KNOW someone out there had never ridden a coaster before saw one of these scenes and is now terrified to ever try it thinking they were realistic.

[@misseselise3864]

there’s a common a few above yours of someone who said they were already terrified of coasters and the FD3 scene just solidified that. but they also said that this channel made them finally get the nerve up to try a roller coaster and now enjoys them once they get over their anxiety

[@killian9314]

Like how jaws got people to stay off beaches for a bit

[@SubjectX07]

I caught a glimpse of this scene when I was very young like 5 or 6, I refused to ride rollercoasters till I was about 16. Yeah, it can definitely mess up your perception of coasters. Love em now.

[@BungieStudios]

Yes.

[@BungieStudios]

Planes too.

[@alex9033]

Also with that second one, I’m no physicist, but that train is *definitely* not experiencing negative gs when that passenger gets flung out of the car.

[@erikawilliams9558]

Good point. You would not fly out on the first hill

[@Kai...999]

Centrifugal force is what you mean.

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@Kai...999Centrifugal force is what *creates* gs in rollercoasters

[@Palmtop_User]

I can tell you that gravity just gave up on that man

[@arturoaguilar6002]

Random localized depressurization event? Oh, wait; that would be in an airplane scene...

[@agoo7581]

For some odd reason, I was always suspicious that roller coaster hydraulic fluid didn't run through a five dollar coaxial cable that you can get at walmart.

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

Im a coaster enthusiast and I was watching final destination with my older sister she said I shouldn't be riding coasters because this could happen at any moment

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

My grammar is horrible excuse me please

[@ryane5281]

This has significantly better grammar than the average KZbin comment.

[@saberwing7930]

Your sister is mad dumb.

[@Rusty-2010]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3odI remember when I read a comment on a roller coaster video and the comment said and I quote “RoLlEr CoAsTeRs BeInG sAfE iS a MyTh!” And it basically was just a rant about it. Like, my guy, the chances of you dying are 1 in 170 MILLION. Just needed to let that out.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

Your older sister needs to point to one instance where this actually occurred, despite thousands of coasters running hundreds of thousands times a day every day around the world.

[@sebasllaura7254]

Only OG viewers remember he did a Debunked on the FD3 scene.

[@247webgirl]

That’s why I clicked this video so fast! So glad that classic got an upgrade ❤

[@TaijeyClawy]

This!

[@amanda1271]

Right! I thought i was tripping for a minute until i remembered!

[@JavaCake]

I do remember that one

[@bocahdongo7769]

FYI allegedly FD3 is inspired by Mindbender Accident. Which indeed both involved car derailing, restrain mechanism get shredded, and passenger getting throaway from the car, and people killed. Which is explaining some of the ridiculousness of the accident, heck even the Mindbender one is much more ridiculous and sad

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

Still extremely rare though

[@bocahdongo7769]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od It is Because the cause of the accident is also more ridiculous (due to track being too wide on some part and put so much stress on fixed bogie assembly) Nowadays we have spring-mounted bogie assembly that will adapt better on track

[@jackpijjin4088]

The fact that it was based on a real tragedy just makes the movie feel even more gross, imo.

[@iliketrains3546]

Also that was in the 80s, times have changed and rides have gotten much safer over the years

[@jimbobjones9330]

@@iliketrains3546 Who's to say the coaster at the park in FD3 wasn't a leftover from the 80s or 90s? Obviously nothing to this extreme has or likely ever will happen, but this channel has shown MANY times that with the exact amount of bad luck and incompetence, bad stuff DOES happen. Are you guaranteeing me right now that there aren't any roller coasters around even today that don't have extremely worn-out components that they shouldn't be running with because someone thinks that money is more important than safety? Never mind that Final Destination 3 came out in 2006... which puts it roughly the same timeframe from the late 80s as it is from today.

[@mattblom3990]

As someone living in Vancouver, Corkscrew was a coaster we'd ride all the time, but it DID feel scarier after Final Destination 3 lol.

[@Blast2224]

The same affect was like seeing the Hulk after watching House on Haunted Hill. 😅

[@elisabeth2166]

"Realistic depictions" is giving 911 a LOT of credit.

[@DerekWhite-yx2ce]

Fire Department Chronicles makes fun of this.

[@puppyhowler]

lol yeah, they literally had an episode where a guy called 911 from a space station lol

[@megandunnett7900]

The first episode I saw was a Halloween episode as well as the everyday shenanigans. I thought it was a comedy series.

[@Beelzebubby91]

@@puppyhowler No wayyy 💀 I gotta watch that now

[@puppyhowler]

@@Beelzebubby91 lol yeah, from what i remember the dude was on the ISS and it got hit with a solar storm. he tried to call his base but ended up calling 911 by accident? idk it was weird lol

[@QueenSunstar]

FD3’s roller coaster incident is just an average day at Action Park.

[@misseselise3864]

facts

[@railworksamerica]

Lmfao yes

[@FAFO4wisdom]

Nailed it!

[@edcola6671]

If the Mulvihills ever tried to open a rollercoaster this would’ve been it

[@mickeyfreaktv]

With 911, I love how they added the loop on a coaster that doesn't have a loop. That was filmed at a small local theme park, Scandia in Ontario, California.

[@TimberWolf99]

Pretty sure if people were being thrown off rides and dying every year there would be actual, y'know, consequences. And news coverage.

[@vylbird8014]

Maybe if you set the story in the 80s? There'd be consequences these days, but regulations were a lot more lax in the past. Enough for Action Park to exist.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

@@vylbird8014 Pretty much the point: there would be a news coverage about the "Action Park of roller coaster rides"

[@vylbird8014]

@@arturoaguilar6002 Eventually, but AP also proves that in 80s America it was possible for a theme park to not only operate a deathtrap of poorly-designed, poorly-built rides staffed by drunken teenagers, but to continue to operate said deathtrap even after hundreds of injuries and a few fatalities. There would be news coverage after a mass death, but it's also plausible that a park could be run with such lax safety policies as to allow the event to happen.

[@SylverArc]

This movie made my back then unreasonable fear of roller costers so much worse that i did not ride any until 2022. That was when i finally faced my fear because of this channel. (and turns out i actually enjoy riding roller coasters. it just takes me a bit to get into one once i am in a park but after the initial ride everythign goes.) Thank you for keeping this channel going, it helped me push down my fear to a reasonable level of "if somethign happens i know what safety mechanisms are at play to keep this from turning into a disaster"

[@khittyhawk9651]

Heh, I was going to suggest you do a "What Really Happened" on FD3's roller coaster scene for April Fools. For the past three years, Fascinating Horror has been recounting an action or disaster film in the style of his usual content as an April Fools special, and I thought it'd be funny if you did the same! (...is that Donald Glover?)

[@WasatchWind]

It warms my heart that the top comments on the first result for "final destination roller coaster" are debunking it, and people are replying that the explanation helped calm their roller coaster anxiety.

[@saberwing7930]

You should do one of these for an episode of What's New Scooby Doo. The episode in question is called Roller Ghoster Ride, and there are so many things wrong with that episode it's kind of funny. Especially what they show with the slingshot ride. Cutting the cable of one of those under tension would result in immediate catastrophic failure, not what is shown in the show.

[@SpaceScreaminJohn]

I mean, Scooby Doo is a cartoon, so of course it wasn’t gonna follow logic or physics.

[@saberwing7930]

You're not wrong, but it can still be entertaining to see it broken down, because sometimes there's a kernel of truth to it, or you learn something you otherwise didn't know or realize. Like, for instance, a roller coaster getting stuck upside down. It has happened, but only once. As a matter of fact, watching CoasterCollege's What Really Happened series and then watching this is actually very interesting, because there is actually some small bits of (accidental?) truth in both scenes. It's for that same reason I watch Dave Mckeegan debunk flat earth videos, I know the Earth is round, but I have learned about interesting things I didn't know about beforehand, like beam guidance for bombers during WW2.@@SpaceScreaminJohn

[@protoborg]

Reminds me of the scene from Ghost Ship where a cable is severed by the ghost and the cable whips across the entire length of the ship cutting people in two on the top deck.

[@saberwing7930]

That can happen, though. Cables and chains on ships can very easily kill you in a very messy way, and that is why they need to be treated with caution and respect.

[@Blast2224]

@@SpaceScreaminJohntrue though Daphne runs her mouth like such a fanatic and it’s like, “chill hun. Shouting G-forces doesn’t mean you know stuff.”

[@CivilianSatellite]

There are a couple No Limits 2 recreations on KZbin of the beefed up coaster in FD3. The layout makes absolutely no sense, but neither does most of the movie. They really maxed out creative licensing in order to tell their fun, goofy story.

[@alaeriia01]

360VRCoasters has a movie-accurate recreation on his channel, which features gems like the transfer track at the bottom of the main drop and some questionable elements in between the pair of double corkscrews.

[@Revkor]

still more beleivable then the nascar one

[@alaeriia01]

@@Revkor yeah, that was pretty dumb, especially when they could have just sent a second car through the hole in the catch fencing rather than having the first one break through.

[@JerzeyJimmy]

I imagine it's supposed to be something like an Arrow megalooper and what we got was more or less someone drawing SFMM!Viper from memory.

[@FartingSpider12]

Her: Babe, come over. Me: I can't. I just got on a rollercoaster. Her: My parents aren't home. Me: 5:52

[@NothingOsaka]

This is why we love you bro. You set the story straight! I know so many that cite that ridiculous movie as a legit reason to not ride. I love that scene btw and also the one in House on Haunted hill remake 1999.

[@shawnspencer8766]

1:52 Starting and stopping a motor really doesn't give much wear and tear (unless it's direct start with no soft start or vfd, which is uncommon, and puts stress on the gearbox not the motor itself). The main 2 reasons they idle are 1) This keeps the greasing unit on and the chain / sprockets / liner lubricated. 2) Starting the chain from a dead stop pulls significantly more starting current through the drive and motor than increasing speed that already has momentum. Source: I am a coaster controls programmer.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Legend! Thank you!

[@protoborg]

Plus, it is far more efficient to increase the speed of a motor than to start it from a dead stand still.

[@cyjanek7818]

since it is getting into "technically" level of stuff - drawing more current generates more heat and overall more heat/cooling cycles so it would have some negative impact on motor expected life

[@hippiechik95]

As a huge fraidy-cat and general ball of anxiety disorder, thank you for your insight and explanations! Videos like yours have helped me a lot, since knowing how things actually work makes them a lot less scary and me a lot less likely to have panic attacks!

[@hoosiercoasterfan2655]

I’ve said it before, “Devils Flight” (as it exists in the movie, not Corkscrew at PNE) looks like it has a kickass layout full of airtime hills, and and hangtime filled inversions. As a Coaster enthusiast and an Avegeek, the Final Destination franchise has made me roll my eyes several times, but I still think they are fun movies to watch.

[@iliketrains3546]

It looks like a pretty average arrow mega looper tbf, something like viper at magic mountain

[@hoosiercoasterfan2655]

@@iliketrains3546 yeah, Viper if it had Magnum hills and if it took the first loop so slowly you got mad hangtime.

[@iliketrains3546]

@@hoosiercoasterfan2655 I don’t remember there being any magnum hills on the ride, but agree with you on that first loop

[@SherbetAlex]

I know, right? I’ve never seen an Arrow coaster with an airtime hill.

[@iliketrains3546]

@@SherbetAlex are you joking. Magnum exists.

[@SeanFlaharty]

Many years ago, I was contacted by a producer who said they were working on the next Final Destination and they needed to find a roller coaster that a park would not only allow them to film at, but one that would allow them to destroy the coaster. They had found my contact info due to my position in ACE at the time. After some explanation that ACE couldn't help them with such a task, they contacted PNE and the rest is history. I haven't seen the movie. Only clips like seen in this video.

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

Its A bad movie all finale destinations are imo

[@CoasterCollege]

Very interesting that they originally wanted to destroy the ride.

[@alaeriia01]

​@@CoasterCollegeyeah, because _Death of Ocean View Park_ was such a hit (it wasn't) and destroying the Rocket was a good idea (it wasn't). I'm surprised they didn't try for Mt Olympus. They could get the whole movie from filming an average day of operations.

[@SeanFlaharty]

@@CoasterCollege It was an odd conversation. I had to ask a couple times if they were joking. I thought I had been pranked but everything seemed legit.

[@jimbobjones9330]

That's crazy, but they didn't destroy anything for the movie. They did a ton of stuff on green screens and in studios, but rode the roller coaster an insane amount for reaction shots. But everything "destructive" was done digitally or practically in a studio in front of green screens. I think the person you talked to was being hyperbolic.

[@UwePieper]

5:54 How does he get flung out of the ride while it looks like they‘re still increasingly go upwards? Rows behind are clearly visible. If they were at a camelback they wouldn’t 🙈

[@larrybremer4930]

I was once told by an engineer (who worked in aerospace) that nearly all tje newer large steel tube rollercoasters pull a partial vacuum or pressurize the rails which are all welded air tight so a simple pressure gauge can be used by the rides safety system to detect even a small crack in a weld long before it could fail under nominal operating loads.

[@jonntischnabel]

I was once in the queue for "oblivion" at Alton towers. We were watching the ride as we queued. A group of riders were "hanging" at the pause ,just before the drop into the hole. The ride was struck by lightning (directly), and the power went off. The release mechanism must have required power, and the poor people were stuck there, with blood rushing to their heads! It took a good while to get things sorted. (This was in August 1999, before some smart arse in the comments says that's impossible because of such and such, they probably have a different system now due to this event).

[@vexile1239]

'95? That would explain it, things were... different back then, and like you said more "modern" coasters have multiple redundancies to try and prevent such things from occurring

[@hanonondricek411]

My favorite dumb part of Final Destination 3 is when they get stuck at the top of the loop and their solution is to "rock" the train back and forth until it rolls down. And they rock it 3 or 4 times back and forth _flossing the top of the loop._ Gravity doesn't work that way.

[@lumindoesvideos]

Was Final Destination's scene based loosely off Mindbender's big accident? Its the only accident even remotely like that that happened before that movie was made. Cool to see the actual coaster that was filmed on is safe and seems kinda fun. And some of its weird little quirks made it into the movie. It's a bit odd that the lift chain shuts off but to each their own I guess. And I can't say much about the scene from 911 because how did that thing even get past testing? ASTM class 2 restraints on something that inverts sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The rider getting thrown would've probably happened in the loop. Also the perfect weight balance that would be needed to get a train stuck like that without something lodged in the wheels is nearly impossible.

[@jwhite5008]

Agreed except riders would not be ejected while inside the loop because of centrifugal "force", unless the coaster also stopped in the loop upside down which is one of the least probable things that can happen.

[@stickynorth]

@@jwhite5008 But it DID, Jwhite, IT DID! ;-) Mindbender is the example of all the worst things of poor design, poor build, poor maintenance all coming together to murder 3 people and injure a dozen or so more... Not to mention give everyone in the park that night PTSD!

[@stickynorth]

Yes! I believe both use the same German Schwartzkoff track and coaster design which was heavily modified... AFTER MINDBENDER and its 3 DEATHS!

[@jwhite5008]

@@stickynorth I don't contest that, I only say the force in that case was not centrifugal.

[@edcola6671]

Pretty sure all of the Final Destination movies are based on real events (without all the crazy ‘death chain’ crap), the first one was based on TWA Flight 800 in July of ‘96 and another (four or five) were based on the Le Mans disaster in ‘55.

[@yoavbenclaudia3073]

I just want a bunch of experts on everything the FD franchise covers explaining exactly why the accidents make zero sense, or at least extremely unlikely. Final Destination was Sharknado of the 00s.

[@vylbird8014]

Given the premise of the movie, 'extremely unlikely' isn't an issue. Death in that setting is an intelligence force that works by deliberately manipulating events to make the almost-impossible happen in just the wrong way and at just the wrong moment to cause apparently accidential deaths. If there's a one-in-a-million chance of a crucial bolt falling off, and a one-in-a-million chance of it then landing wedged within a mechanism in such a way as to cause a car to derail, then Death will act to make sure that is exactly what happens.

[@vylbird8014]

I've only been scared on a ride once. It wasn't a thrill ride, it was a very basic wooden coaster that mostly went back and forth - but it was also at a very shady little amusement park on one of the Greek islands, and must have been rather lacking in proper service as the class two restraint failed to engage. I spent the ride clinging on tightly as I was swung from one end of the seat to the other. The same place also had a not-very-big wheel operated by a control panel featuring a giant rheostat which would spit sparks whenever the operator turned the control wheel. It looked like it was made in the 1930s, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Not all countries devote the resources to enforce safety regulations on amusement parks.

[@Sauci55on]

Quality content as always, I really hope that your channel will grow and show more and more people that coasters are awesome and safe!

[@samiracle13]

thank god you talked about this 💀 i hate the scene bc it looks so dumb to me

[@jordancambridge4106]

The final destination roller coaster scene is based off the 2004 event where a person died in that exact way at Six Flags where 1 person died 3 people later died at the hospital and about 20 people were hospitalized when the entire system malfunctioned all over the place. The roller coaster was shut down but was later re opened 3 months later but fully shot down less than 3 years after that making it only operational for about 3 years and a couple of months. This event happened about 2 days before I went there and my step sister saw it happen.

[@Blast2224]

This movie came out when I was 13. By then, I'd been on rides like Kingda Ka, Viper at SFMM, etc. The moment I saw the hyrdaulic over-the-shoulder harnesses, I knew this was total fantasy. Anyone with access to internet knows that CORKSCREW roller coasters, even from their genesis, used ratcheting harnesses that needed manual unlock. You EVEN HEAR the ratching after the "hydraulic sound". So if the harnesses lost fluid, the ratchets would have held them down regardless. This is WHY hydraulics have the center belt clip in the first place. It would infuriate me when horror casuals would say they actually RODE the Devil's Flight or that FD3 was modeled after a real corkscrew derailment.

[@ghoulamvs4887]

this was really interesting especially as someone who is a fan of both coasters and this movie series. thanks for the video!

[@CrystalMouse1]

Actually in Hutchinson Kansas at the State Fair in 2006 there was a loop ride that had only a lap bar restraint even though it loops upside down. It stalled with everyone upside down and I was sitting beside a thin girl and she was flipping out of the seat. I grabbed her while hooking one arm and leg around the lap bar holding on for dear life! All of us were screaming at the operator to get help or try to get the ride going so we could get down. He just stood there mute with a cigarette! It felt like forever but somehow it started working again and we could leave. The parents of the kid were in shock and couldn’t speak other than a tearful thank goodness! I’ve not ridden one of those loop rides again

[@ReneaCox-dj2zy]

Also everyone keep in mind that the movie is based on death coming back for them after they weren't killed as fate planned. So there are several scenes in the series where fate does the impossible, and you start to think how it couldn't happen.

[@rgs8970]

Thank you!!! This is something I needed!!!

[@CoasterCollege]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cerealzexprain2851]

Omg I’ve been waiting on this video!! So glad he covered it

[@vectorwolf]

I used to work at Chamberlain/LiftMaster, and the whole garage door scene in Scream is utterly impossible too. They spent a whole lot of time and effort trying to undo people's belief that you could die like that.

[@KirumomTojo]

Thank you so much, this helped me get over my fear of the final destination films (only a tiny bit) 😭

[@paulsmith410]

LOL!!! The loop that was higher than the lift hill got me good. Apparently Plot Physics is just an alternate form of Plot Armor.

[@GnosticAtheist]

I was going to say that final destination is a supernatural movie so anything goes, but you are correct since they added things that do not exist. In the setting, death could just change the nature of reality to cause death, but I doubt it could retroactively alter how security systems are made. Not sure why they cant base it more on reality. They could drop the hydralic security concept and just show rust spreading on the metal bars holding them in place or some such.

[@Jinxness]

I don't know where else to ask this but I love your coverage on how safety features work. Would you explain how the rollback/slingshot launch works on something like Velcocoaster? When cars can't make the second launch they are sent backwards and then accelerated forward.

[@lughscanlan]

Suspending disbelief in order to enjoy a movie is important

[@Weatherboy1102]

I guess one could handwave away FD3’s flaws with something about a money grubbing park owner just not following regulations and not getting caught until it’s too late. I believe that has been the case in a small handful of incidents, though yeah it’s still unrealistic especially with the track falling apart bit

[@kidamccoffin]

Aren't hydraulic restrains working like truck brakes (the big cargo trucks)? That if there's a problem with the hydraulics, the brakes are activated because the hydraulic system keeps them instead of pressing them shut? (sorry if I'm writing strange, English is not my first language)

[@alaeriia01]

Yes, in fact, hydraulic restraints work like that. In the event of loss of hydraulic pressure, the restraints would lock rather than unlock.

[@MultiPureEnergy]

I can’t speak for all instances, but in North America the classic “air releases the brakes” is true of parking brakes. They have a large spring that applies the brakes and air pressure forces the brake to the release position. The non parking brakes will be applied by air pressure.

[@KingdaToro]

Hydraulic restraints basically have a hydraulic cylinder with a pipe linking the two ends of the cylinder. When the restraint is moved, hydraulic fluid will flow through this pipe from one end of the cylinder to the other, so to lock the restraint, this flow simply needs to be prevented. There's a valve on the pipe consisting of a spring-loaded solenoid, that normally only allows the hydraulic fluid to flow in one direction, corresponding to closing the restraint. This is its default state, the restraint can close but not open. When power is applied to the solenoid, the valve is held open and allows the fluid to flow in both directions. This unlocks the restraint. Each restraint has two of these systems for redundancy, and both solenoids have to be powered at once to unlock the restraint. The power for the solenoids is supplied through contacts in the station, so the restraints can normally only be opened there. Opening them elsewhere for an evacuation requires a battery pack to be plugged into the train. That's the basics, but these systems can have additional features added, for example an accumulator can be used to store pressure that will then be used to open the restraints automatically when they're unlocked.

[@alaeriia01]

@@KingdaToro So what would happen in the event of catastrophic loss of hydraulic pressure? Specifically, within the "restraints close" cylinder, or in the accumulator. I suppose this is why B&M coasters have that little seat belt thing and other coasters often have seat belts? You know, triple redundancy.

[@KingdaToro]

@@alaeriia01The pressures that would be generated by the coaster's forces are far smaller than the rated pressures of the equipment. Hydraulic equipment is typically rated for 3000 PSI, and the full weight of a rider trying to force the restraint open would probably only generate about 500-1000 PSI, assuming the heaviest rider that'll still fit. You wouldn't get more than that, as even the most extreme ejector airtime found on coasters is around -1 G. -1.5 would be extremely uncomfortable, and -2 would be downright dangerous. The accumulator wouldn't even be connected when the restraint is locked, as its purpose is to help open the restraint. And even if there was a loss of pressure in one cylinder, the other should be fine. The chance of both systems of one restraint failing during a single ride cycle is negligible. The seat belts on coasters are primarily measuring devices. They're a fixed length that corresponds with the highest allowable position of the main restraint. If it can't reach, the person can't safely ride.

[@oconnell88]

X no way out at Thorpe Park used to have those lap bars. My friend and I would purposely put our knees up to stop the lap bar coming fully down and the staff weren’t that bothered either so as the ride started we simply pushed the lap bar back up and it was the most intense ride I’d ever had in my life! Plus it was a rollercoaster in the dark

[@Markyajv]

The scene from FD3 was dumb. First clue.. That coaster would not be a traveling coaster. As soon as I saw the concrete footers It blew any sense of realism out of the water. They were at a carnival not an amusment park. The editing also sucked!

[@bocahdongo7769]

Surprisingly that's the realistic part of this scene It's Vekoma looper, and sometimes they used portable support for permanent instalation (And yes, Vekoma portable looper DID exist)

[@spinba11]

@@bocahdongo7769 I think that’s what happened with corkscrew at Alton towers, a travelling model that never actually traveled

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

Even as a kid watching that scene with my family I always knew it was bullshit

[@Markyajv]

@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od It was the scene from FD2 that still gives me panic attacks. That stuff happens every day.

[@Markyajv]

​@@bocahdongo7769 Been all over Vekomas website and no mention of a portable looper. Can't even find info on Ace or on KZbin. Care to help?

[@RoseKindred]

The last ride I went on had the guard rails come down over the shoulder AND a seatbelt-like latch between the legs. I thought it was a little loose on me when I pushed up on the shoulder but everything held. Until the ride started. I heard a click near the seatbelt latch and the arms felt looser. I wouldn't say they fully disengaged but when the ride stopped I walked off the seat while they were manually unlocking others. The attendant's eyes went wide when I stood up. Something tells me it could have been worse if I did not hold on.

[@dothedo3667]

I was sad when I went to playland (i think two years ago?) and found out they no longer have the corkscrew :(

[@ryantheridemechanic]

Love it!! Never seen 911 video. Track is basically 5in sch 80 close to it anyway. Not sure how much it would take to break it but I’ve done some nasty stuff and only dented 1 spot one time.

[@hayzleyes]

Omg the Great Bear in Hershey Park. I remember when it opened. 1999 The sound of that coaster is so iconic. When you hear it, you know what it is. I’ve also worked there and operated the GB

[@Farmeritaville]

THANK YOU. I was yelling at the screen in the theater at Final Destination 3. Haha

[@AbandonedMines11]

This was a very informational and well-produced video! Wasn’t too long, either. I love roller coasters but always had a lingering fear that the over the shoulder restraints would come loose during a ride. Nice to see a cogent explanation about how that is practically impossible. Another question I have that I don’t think anybody’s ever addressed in a video about roller coasters is how the G-forces might affect a rider and cause them to have an aneurysm, a stroke, or something like that. Could those kinds of G-forces encourage such a medical incident? I’ve never seen a video that addresses this particular concern.

[@CoasterCollege]

Glad you enjoyed it! The G forces can absolutely do everything you described, it may be a future video!

[@protoborg]

@@CoasterCollege Only if you already have a condition which makes the blood vessels weak. It absolutely will NOT do any of those things to a healthy person.

[@Ishtarru]

tl;dr version: in order for these scenes to even be possible, both roller coasters would have to violate so many safety regulations that there's no way either would be open to the public.

[@SuperMike2507]

They not only violate safety regulations, but also the laws of physics.

[@fedos]

With the loose objects issue, there have been cases of people dropping an object while riding a roller coaster and then being injured or killed when retrieving it.

[@thesamesunrise5297]

Commenting for the algorithm! Tired of these terrible clickbait channels spreading misinformation about theme park rides, your videos need to be in front of more eyes ❤️

[@CoasterCollege]

Appreciate it!

[@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006]

Eh, the racetrack crash in the forth movie was also vary unrealistic.

[@alaeriia01]

What, you mean put crews don't leave a random screwdriver in the hot-ass exhaust pipe while working on the car?

[@misseselise3864]

if we’re gonna go there, most death scenes in the entire franchise are unrealistic. and the racetrack one is actually kinda realistic- there was a massive racing crash that happened in the 50s or 60s where a car left the track and broke into pieces that then flew into the grandstands and killed a LOT of bystanders.

[@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006]

@misseselise3864 Yeah, but it was going much faster than what they were going.

[@alaeriia01]

@@misseselise3864 That was the Le Mans 1955 disaster, and there was no actual attempt at safety. I think there were a few hay bales around forming a bit of a "maybe don't go in here" type barrier, but nothing that would actually stop a car. Couple that with the car in question having a magnesium chassis (ever seen a magnesium fire?) and you have a recipe for disaster.

[@mlogeebobee7176]

This video helped me ease my irrational anxieties of something like this happening at state fairs. Thank you!

[@boopyboops]

Very interesting analysis. ^^ I remember seeing commercials for 911. There's also this show called SWAT or something. Neither of them look real or even slightly respectful to the actual jobs. They are dumb fun shows but they're also just straight-up goofy and nonsensical. I dunno. When I saw a little bit of SWAT, I laughed at it.

[@jedh3721]

I always thought Final Destination would be much more interesting if they did research into the plausible circumstances of each death. Look at what a catastrophic roller coaster accident would actually take to happen, look at the cars and track of the coaster they are filming on and come up with a believable scenario instead of just making stuff up.

[@Xemera18]

I wish I had this video when I was a kid, I saw the scene in Final Destination and had a multi year long fear of rollar coasters because of it.

[@TestCandidate95]

Nothing makes 12-year-old me from the past feel better than people picking apart the ridiculous death scenarios from the Final Destination movies.

[@jordmead4760]

Everytime i watch these films i think there set in a world where the objects involved in the opening disaster are made out of lego and the people are nothing but jelly and breadsticks

[@ElysianAura]

That bar one reminds me of when I was much younger and rode the tower of terror with my dad. I remember feeling really loose in it and grabbing the thing for dear life. I was a small guy back in fifth grade compared to a 200lb 6ft man

[@saintleehan]

thank you so much for this video i have never gone on a rollercoaster with a loop bc of final destionation! i know i can still die in it but at least is one less fear.

[@Croz89]

It also looks like the rails are wafer thin tubes in FD3 when you see the track "break", which wouldn't be anywhere near strong enough to hold a rollercoaster train.

[@limegreenelevator]

In the first summer I worked at a local theme park, I was operating a coaster and a girl was trying to decide whether to sit in the front or back because she didn't want to sit where the people who died in FD3 sat. I told her coasters don't work like that. Don't remember if she ended up riding though.

[@looneytoastywolf]

Damn good video!!

[@demine100018]

Thank you for helping me remove my fears of Rollercoaster this movie made me scared of riding them. I still go on them😂

[@jonnysinclair2186]

I too had a close call on a roller coaster when the restraints released before the ride started. Was scared for my life when the ride started. Was holding on to dear life as the ride had a single small loop. But thanks to the high speed and me wedging myself between the loose restraints and the metal that blocks your legs. (I guess a class 2 lap bar or whatever)😅

[@spinningpeanut]

The roller coaster scene made me decide to just not watch any of those movies. Its basically trying to turn an anxiety disorder into a super power and i aint about that.

[@gameslikes0grolls]

coward

[@werewolflover8636]

Your “fact” about the lap bar is in correct! Today, yes the rules say a simple lap bar isn’t enough but when I was younger this certainly wasn’t enforced! An example of this is The Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags Over Georgia, a wooden coaster I know very well! For much of my younger years and up into the 90’s this coaster which when built was the tallest and longest coaster in the world only had a lap bar! Today it has seat belts along with the bar but from 1973 till around 1990 it sure didn’t!

[@treykoyawena4443]

So basically none of the roller coasters were not certified by federal Consumer Product Safety Commission in these scenes lmao

[@KenLieck]

I find it hilarious that even punk rock is more accurate than these shows. I'm thinking of the Cargo Cult song "Amusement Park Disaster" that included the line "Mommy mommy mommy! The cotter pin came off the ride!"

[@supertna9154]

A wheel can fall off like in the movie if the roller coaster is poorly maintained and the pins and screws snap due to wear and tear. It is more common on temporary roller coasters at shows and fetes than permanent ones due to the ride being designed for being portable than built in like the ones at theme parks.

[@AirplanesAndAirtime]

I love this video It does everything right

[@TheRedStikbot]

Final Destination 3: Ready to die! The roller coaster: 300% Safe!

[@marcomoon6062]

Now I know why the demon was always closed in middle school lol

[@prawduhgee8834]

TIL I've ridden on the coaster from final destination. There was one time I got to Playland at opening and rode it over and over again with no lines.

[@Aidan_minotii]

Theese shows had to have been made when there was only 1-3 roller coasters in the world

[@OriginalJoe]

Baywatch took these same liberties with watercraft and gentle beach waves all the time

[@RadenVijaya]

In fact, roller coaster ride is actually safer than car ride 😮

[@SemlerPDX]

I think the quoted comment at the end has some bearing that you did not touch upon. Theme parks are permanent, and staffed by experienced crew. Many State Fairs (or smaller) are much more rinky-dink operations, and their roller coasters are typically more tame yet also likely more prone to human error in a number of ways, including proper maintenance and oversight in some cases. I'd like to hear more about this, whether these smaller operations have an on par or worse track record than permanent installations such as theme parks.

[@benjaminosterloh3605]

The whole Final Destination series implies it exists in a universe where OSHA was never founded or had “accidents” to ensure nothing was ever enforced. That’s when physics itself is ignored, of course

[@amanor409]

I rode the coaster in FD3 way back in 1987 when it was at Boblo Island. Decent coaster from what I remember but nothing like what is shown in the movie.

[@rdfox76]

...that's what happened to Corkscrew at Boblo?! Dude. That was my first coaster ever. Any word on what happened to the woodie they had?

[@johnnycage1973]

The beginning of House on Haunted Hill did the rollercoaster scene too

[@JosephMcCallister-si4vn]

Oh yeah and the 325 fury had track damage twice which is crazy because it’s the world’s tallest giga coaster

[@jwalster9412]

My favorite bit his how the track looksnlike ots made out of razor thin, non hardened steel. Which is Hilarious, not only because it would ahve failed way before what happens in the movie, but also because apparently no one shut down what was clearly a very unsafe track.. especially of a *piece of fiberglass* can break the tube clean in half.

[@RandyMarsh-nu6lo]

Are you local to the Charlotte area? I noticed Carolina Cyclone, Fury, and Vortex in there. Carowinds is a great park!

[@Kmcornell23]

What about the part in FD3 where the coaster hits that piece of track and flips up in the air? All the carts have wheels that hold them to the track. That's like the worst one!

[@terezipyrope1364]

Could you do a video on how revenge of the mummy at hollywood universal works? I am having a hard time finding videos on how it switches tracks when reversing

[@protoborg]

IT uses a switch track that most likely functions like railroad switches. That is it moves a section of track side to side along a pair of rails.

[@panelvixen]

Stuck in my mind is the rollar coaster scene from Haganai. Alexis Tipton was hilarious.