What GTA 5's Handling SHOULD Have Been Like ( GTA 5 DriveV Mod )

[@b0d436]

not only physics, but collisions should be more realistic too. for example, a super car can be used for every terrain in this game, u can climb a mountain with a lambo with no problem, this makes off road vehicles totaly useless, hope this is fixed in gta 6, because in gta 5 is boring, you only see players using super cars

[@mrk3655]

dude what are you smoking... they must be modders i've never driven a car up top mount chilliad. either way offroad vehicles aren't useless as they still have an advantage over supercars in suspension

[@speedy035]

i know that’s unrealistic but that’s also just convenient, it would be very annoying if i wouldn’t be able to climb the mountains while driving a super car, because i’m always driving a super car and i’m climbing mountains very often, because of for example shortcuts bc it’s faster, running from the cops, or just crashing or falling of a highway or something and then having to climb back

[@Itz_Puxe]

But an older game had better physics 🤷 ​@@speedy035

[@dewritos2068]

You guys should just go play iRacing or something. This video was good, but the people sucking off GTA 4's physics are so annoying and I know for a fact Rockstar isn't going to make it that realistic or else every person who isn't a car nerd would uninstall the game.

[@j99044]

@@dewritos2068🤓🤓

[@edwin99901]

One thing I dont like about gta 5 driving is how the cars flicker automatically when driving over a sidewalk platform edge, theres no suspension at all.

[@musky420]

there's a mod for that.

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

​@spaceoven8788that's not how it works

[@FurryestX]

Well, in fact there it its, but its very stiff and sensible and the differential tends to be diferent from car to car but normally its very closed on braking, sensible on throtle lift and stable on acceleration

[@gerolfvanoudshoorn4359]

Also in some cars when turning at low speed car turns more than front wheels are turned, you can see this for example with terrorbyte and cars with hydraulics installed, also cars from tuner dlcs and many more.

[@nakedsnake_]

mod name? @@musky420

[@Mizara5]

3:54 "Gus is dead. We've got work to do"

[@Snazzyhaz420]

What’s this song called?

[@theraiden1018]

@@Snazzyhaz420Gus- Is dead we have work to do

[@prietos23]

@@Snazzyhaz420 freestyle by tabii brothers

[@xvumns]

@@Snazzyhaz420taalbi brothers - freestyle

[@aersla1731]

@@xvumns Damn, I thought it was Rodrigo y Gabriela; really sounds like them.

[@b0d436]

thats why no one new vehicle dlc is fun anymore, because the physics, every car feels the same, there are no working suspension and there is no fun driving a static box glued to the ground

[@iwtdl_]

bro never seen the bravado dorado

[@Kronofogden69]

The new impaler lx is kinda fun to drive

[@DeadlyElement07]

Try the Sand King SBW or XL, as far as suspension I’ve yet to see a better vehicle, except for maybe a monster truck or an arena war vehicle.

[@SafeAtSpeed]

Bro has not played any of the DLCs after Cayo Perico

[@SafeAtSpeed]

​@@DeadlyElement07dorado and walton have better suspension

[@TheCompleteMental]

It wouldnt just make vehicle choice more important, but tuning would be far more engaging. Choices between high and low travel suspension, roll cage to stop the canopy from caving, a wide array of tires for difference surfaces.

[@xlgapelsin6173]

It would also destroy some of the best aspects of gta V (the stunts you can pull off)

[@giacomobucciarelli7143]

@@xlgapelsin6173 Good thing that was only a gta 5 thing and gta 6 is a different game lil bro

[@Josh-jw3go]

V is 5 retard

[@dord4453]

go play forza or something lmao

[@R4ndomUser567]

Turbo Dismount music was a good choice

[@Jamalamaj]

Agreed

[@drejon5874]

I was about to say the same thing

[@rytb09-gaming]

Ffr

[@sibsnake]

yeahhh the gang is here

[@kovy6447]

Which of the tracks is it?

[@DeadEyes63]

Speed brake glitch is more commonly known as brake boosting among speed runners. Pair that with franklins special ability and you go Mach 10 in seconds

[@BigDickRand.y]

It became the TopGun darkstar

[@SoloDallasII]

Hi @Eightbite, this is the creator of the Drive V mod. I appreciate your thoughtful comments on my mod. I never thought I'd see people talking about something I made like this! I'm actually working on improving AI handling right now, and that will be part of the next update.

[@Eightbite]

Hey it's good to see you here :D seriously great job with the mod, it's great to see people like you putting effort into stuff like that.

[@LeftJoystick]

:)

[@A_youtube_channel_]

make the AI drive faster on highways and stuff and make it so they dont randomly rear end you.

[@wetter4293]

I do plane handlings, so hit me up for aviation stuff if you're interested you nerds! I appreciate your dedication! (*both of you!)

[@slingblade313]

Can you make it compatible with RDE

[@moeman4562]

Driver San Francisco has easily the best open world driving physics hands down. If there's any game Rockstar should emulate it's that. Not too realistic but not too arcadey either, perfect middle ground. Good video btw

[@Eightbite]

Thanks. Yeah Driver SF is an excellent game, too bad Ubisoft wiped it from existence completely. The police chases in that game were tough, no matter how good you were. Though yes it was a result of the cops rubber banding, but honestly I don't mind as long as it makes the chases challenging.

[@thesilver7238]

I prefer NFS The Run's handling. It's near a sim-cade like handling (

[@Eightbite]

@@thegamereviewandreallifech1910 On PC you have to pirate it. Be careful if you're trying that, I'd recommend Fitgirl repacks for torrent. On consoles like ps3 and 360 you'd have to look on sites like Ebay for a copy.

[@PsychoticPanda_]

BeamNG, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally 2. Enough said.

[@moeman4562]

@@thesilver7238 i personally detest NFS and haven't completed any of the games since Carbon and Hot Pursuit. I dont think its anywhere near sim-cade imo, Forza is sim-cade. What i liked about Driver SF was how different types of cars drove differently (excessive realistic body roll on a Crown Vic vs. a more nimble grounded Fiat Abarth) and how fun it was to drift around turns in a way thats ironically more realistic than NFS. But if you like NFS thats cool too, thats whats great about games, there's something for everybody.

[@trevortjes]

The NFS Porsche Unleashed soundtrack at 1:33 caught me off guard

[@GearheadBrasileiro]

Was thinking the same thing, what a sudden blast to the past

[@Kamcio44]

I really hope GTA6s physics is way closer to GTA4 than 5. My favourite thing about GTA4 was just driving around for no reason and I had a lot of fun doing it. Great video.

[@majorpwner241]

"Driving around for no reason." Yeah, I'm sure you did a lot of that. 4 is the worst title in the entire series.

[@ThatSlowSaturn]

@@majorpwner241 That’s awfully opinionated

[@TJay7777]

@@majorpwner241GTA4 shits on GTAV

[@1035pm]

@@majorpwner241 I do a lot of that, gta4 is much more fun and you need skill to drive. Gta5 just feel empty and all cars feel the same with no weight to them at all.

[@MoikeIsJesus420]

You've probably never played it, or haven't played it enough to appreciate it. @@majorpwner241

[@francskgp]

5:03 Lol just add a manual mission restart/abort option. And I'd imagine the mission would imply you'd need an off road vehicle beforehand, so you'd have a chance to grab one before approaching the objective

[@driv3ver]

Ah, this mod brings back memories, I've spent thousand hours making my mod to GTA IV handling, to make it more realistic - less boat like, less durable, realistic acceleration and top speeds etc :D So much research and playtesting what a sweet times those were :D

[@DarKnight-mu3ed]

3:27 amazing Mafia soundtrack!!!

[@TheNaughtysheriff]

Best thing about gta 5 and it JUST got added after 10 years is drifting. This is probably gonna be the most arcade like gta game of the HD era

[@miguelnascimento2847]

and is still complete dogcrap. Instead of doing something simple like having manual shifting and possibly a few basic tuning options they created an horrendous system when they had something better as a base. It's stupid beyond redemption

[@Maximus20778]

​​@spaceoven8788that's not how it works kid Edit: of your just copying your comment on purpose, eww

[@abztrackt]

​@@miguelnascimento2847 100% gta 4 fanboy

[@dezpotizmOFheaven]

I always hated the fact that you couldn't really drift or slide in GTA V because it would absolutely cut off power on your car and slow you down like your car is glued to the road and not at all allowed to oversteer.

[@tiagobelo4965]

Ngl putting GTA V's suspension on GTA IV's physics would make much more sense, cars in GTA IV drive like someone stole your suspension and replaced it with springs designed for a dirtbike, without putting the dampers or sway bars back on

[@contra7631]

Oh my God.I couldnt agree with you.I hate Gta-4 driving.I prefer any need for speed style driving than that pieace of sht.Its like driving on ice.

[@dauphongii]

youre right about that, but tbf gta4's driving looks really cool to me for some reason. its not realistic but seeing the car sway like that is satisfying af

[@ApollonDriver]

Gta4's suspension is more realistic than 5, suspension in gta5 is waayyy too stiff

[@walidchouaki3692]

​@@ApollonDriverits a game, no game is realistic, you want realism? Go outside& drive a real car😂

[@ApollonDriver]

@@walidchouaki3692 I do that too my minor friend don't worry. Realism has always been a big part of GTA, the game is literally about doing crazy shit in a realistic environment. If you don't want realism, you're the one playing the wrong game. Go play valorant or something

[@madhunter6420]

gta 5 always had quite good deformation, look at old gen ps3 xbox 360 one. It had roof deformation, door and pretty much everything. Even wheels could fall off. They heavily downgraded in next gen due to first person. Luckly u can enable it with ENB mod since apparently its just a shader related thing

[@BDozer666]

Yeah it's really dumb how they didn't just toggle roof deformation based on selected camera view. The ENB mod proves the engine can do it.

[@mohamedkhider6998]

So you’re telling me that V is downgraded from the older gen to next gen?

[@Pistacho123Lol]

Wow I didnt realize this...

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean that is no exucse though... They could have just made the roof defomation not matter in First person like every other game that has both.

[@woofyjay6110]

1:04 the turbo dismount music gives me some nostalgia

[@zynz_350z]

Fr

[@jeff4r533]

1:19 That's some smooth rotoscoping right there

[@Chillin4030]

Somewhere between the land yachts of gta 4 and the extreme stiff suspension of gta 5 is ideal.

[@foxtrot570]

0:28 That *Oh... f0ck* was comically well placed 😂

[@cinqsaw4358]

😂😂😂😂

[@maxon1672]

I am 100% for this. I just played through GTA IV again; it is so much more visceral and engaging than V. A lot of that has to do with vehicle physics and damage modeling. You are required to take your time and build your skill to navigate the relatively crowded streets of Libery City, rather than just flinging a Zentorno over Mount Chilliad. T-boning a car in an intersections results in properly mangled body panels! Suspensions correctly absorbs driving over curbs, but if you slide sideways into one the wheels catch the edge. It’s awesome. GTA IV is a narrative and technical masterwork.

[@batboy5023]

4:43 pleasantly surprised by that New Vegas music!

[@unclesam5230]

Hey there’s the High Roller

[@tomvale8150]

Same

[@AszxYtzero]

Bro, you have some absolute BANGERS playing in the background of this video - NFS Porsche Unleashed, Fallout:New Vegas, that song from Jesse's getaway in the first episode of breaking bad, and GTA:London to name a few that stood out to me haha. Video was great, thanks for showing off the mod.

[@akatobias]

Your usage of keyframes and masking is glorious and makes me jealous. Easiest sub ever.

[@n_core]

Yeah, the edit so good. I thought I was watching a big YT channel with hundreds of subscribers. It could take days if you're doing it manually to each keyframes.

[@Philip.Magnusson]

Completely agree. Yes IV is over the top when it comes to like super cars, but with regular cars, which 95% of the cars are, it's a lot more fun. And the bike physics in IV is incredible compared to V. I tried playing through the V story again since I've only completed it once and I've forgotten the plot, but I just can't enjoy it. I've finished IV at least 10 times and it still feels good.

[@Rayer24]

IV bike physics are absolute dogshit

[@Philip.Magnusson]

@@Rayer24 I think i's a matter of taste and I think most people who prefer the V controls to IV are ether too young to appreciate it or like the game to be "easy" = boring.

[@LoCoAde87]

I felt that about V tbh. Not saying IV was perfect from that regard. Theyre both awful re bikes. ​@Rayer24

[@contra7631]

You serious?Have you ever driven a bike in real life.In real life bike never slides like that,its like you are driving an ice cube on ice.

[@Philip.Magnusson]

@@contra7631 Yes I have, still not saying IV is perfect but a hell of a lot better than V in that aspect.

[@local38on-tv]

“Meaning you no longer feel like you’re driving a tank when you’re in a station wagon” That is exactly how any pre 1990 American station wagon drives bro

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Also is the why SUVs are so popular and the surberban/esclade are the most popualr of them....

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

Something that must always be considered when asking the question of, "Can this game be more realistic?" is, _"Should_ this game be more realistic?" I put forward that, no, more realism is not always better. Realism, on its own, is not conducive to fun, and simply adding realism does not _necessarily_ make a game more fun. To use two examples, two extremes of the vehicle-focused driving game, let's look at Need for Speed (Any of the games would work for this) and BeamNG Drive. The former is an exaggerated, cartoony racing game while the latter is a painstakingly and breathtakingly detailed physics simulator that happens to focus on cars. If we took the gameplay loop of Need for Speed and added the real-time softbody physics simulation of BeamNG, would that make Need for Speed more realistic? Yes! Would that make Need for Speed more fun? Not necessarily. The reason for this is that the fun of Need for Speed comes from it being wacky, cartoony and unrealistic, while the fun of BeamNG Drive comes from it being incredibly realistic, with a real-time physics simulation and the most intricate damage modeling system implemented in a game to-date. GTA IV's driving physics, while realistic, are also _exaggerated_ to the point of circling around to being unrealistic, while GTA V's are more exaggerated to the point where most cars are glued to the road. For as much as I love GTA IV, I would much rather have the handling physics of V than those of IV.

[@miguelnascimento2847]

no GTA game has realistic driving and while GTA IV's driving is more engaging it is not because it is more realistic but because it is more difficult. At the moment GTA is just too arcady for anyone to enjoy over a long period of time without getting bored. Instead of realism I'd say the game would benefit alot from depth in the driving systems since the game is about cars and the driving is as bland as a 2000's game. It's beyond me how a game about cars doesn't have the option of manual shifting for example, it would allow drifting but they decided it would be better to make an entire separate system for that that only doubles down on the arcady side they want their game to be

[@contra7631]

@@miguelnascimento2847 not really for me Gta-4 was boring to drive.I drove cars more in Gta-3,vice city and San Andreas more than Gta-4.Which is saying alot about Gta-4,which is a boring pile of crap.Even the missions design and map etc.

[@miguelnascimento2847]

@@contra7631 not going to argue with mission and map design but the driving physics in gta IV are more engaging than gta V's simply because you have to manage more things about them. The place you drive in is also important and it might be the reason you find it boring but talking about the physics alone I don't think anyone will claim that V's are less boring the IV's

[@Rude_Boi]

​@giacomo7113 "We haven't seen an actual good GTA yet." Have you been living under a rock? GTA Vice City, San Andreas, and GTA IV were all great games. GTA V is even a good game, as it still breaks records 10+ years later.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

​@giacomo7113 You got a source for that one, Senator Armstrong?

[@tsunamianakin]

Using turbo dismount music for the crashing part was great

[@sanyokschannel9530]

2:28 well uhhh..... Bye bye jimmy! 😂

[@petersinkworking6198]

Achievement Unlocked: Late Abortion.

[@beatboxinghorseanus]

Lil bro now gotta learn how to fend for himself

[@jobplace5842]

that turbo dismount music tho ..... wow took me back to 2014

[@anonymous.54]

was bout to say, I was like where have I heard this before

[@kvalness4299]

2:27 One of the best Better Call Saul's soundtracks

[@facundomartinez8949]

I have realized that in addition to what is already known as the low destruction of the cars, they lack a lot of "weight", I realized while bored I was loading quadricycles in a pickup, I was surprised that with this extra weight they had a behavior more real, this way the weight of the vehicle felt much more realistic.

[@ArturTheFOE]

Loved the Mafia music while talking about cars handling poorly

[@alrecks619]

welp, i mean...

[@Sweenus987]

"How can the game tell if you're stuck or doing a burnout?" - surface traction, each physics surface will have a "grip" value, this is built into pretty much every physics engine like PhysX, Havok, Bullet etc. Every frame/physics frame/game tick (depending on how it's set up) you could check this value under the wheel along with the current wheel rotation velocity to determine whether or not a vehicle is stuck. A simpler solution might be just a button vs wheel spin check as burnouts also require having the brake pressed, if your wheels are spinning but you don't have the brakes pressed, you're probably stuck.

[@YoungTrashBoy_]

i really hope gta 6 driving physics are realistic tho, since the game has a lot of rpg and roleplay features so It'll make sense

[@contra7631]

Gta isnt a rpg game dude.Dont go with that expectation.

[@arbuzxx]

can you read?@@contra7631

[@thephonepersonally]

​@@contra7631exactly

[@MinecraftvsBurnout]

​@@contra7631 However, it seems that Gta 6 will not be a "too arcade" and shallow game like Gta 5.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

How would you know that 6 has rpg and roleplay feature? And GTA always had arcady driving phyiscs, except of 4. Why fix something if it ain't broken?

[@fobo3361]

They're spending a billion on this game, they're gonna play it safe, no chance they're gonna take any chances on a game this expensive and this anticipated

[@Waffles_Syrup]

Actually gta 5 is really good at detecting when your car is stuck, even sometimes when it seems like you're just about to get unstuck the mission will fail.

[@Lancehendrix813]

That’s not a plus. Happened to me a few times and it’s only frustrating

[@K3NnY_G]

2:30 - Awesome song choice man, I was seeking out and listening to Border Crossing the day that episode aired, so glad it eventually got released on the OST.

[@skitzz0320]

I’m lost on how he’s not on 100k subs. This has been the most enjoyable gta 5 video I’ve watched this year. I look forward to following you on your journey bro!!!

[@jayswarrow1196]

Because he's talking about bringing the fun back in GTA driving, and most of present youtube subs are overgrown libtards, who can't handle a push-scooter. But that's peanuts, in comparing with upcoming screen-tappers generation.. games adapted for them would be passable for a bored cat.

[@ShutterContinent]

Oh my gosh i miss the og Contender from 4 so much, and to see it come back with a visor and brush guard but unobtainable was just hurtful. Those sweet sweet supercharger noises

[@Fernandino-y8l]

i believe rockstar will find some middle ground between GTA V’s arcade feel and RDR2’s realistic feel. I dont think hyper realism fits the GTA series, however a certain level of realism definitely helps add to the immersion and enjoyment of the game. I hope they find a good balance, and if they do choose hyper realism i know i would be happy but idk about others

[@almightymanshadow1002]

It be the same thing like now , half well like it other half wont. But they all would still play it. I dont like Gta Vs driving , but i still play it.

[@JukoMola]

your commitment to quality really shows in every video you produce!

[@Hostile2430]

One thing that annoys me in GTA 5 we can't push smaller cars with larger vehicle like a truck , it gets stuck during collision as if it hit a big Rock In IV we could use a truck to push other cars easily and it was fun to pile up cars and roll them over with a Big Truck

[@BFG-hv2ml]

2:55 i can hear the “border crossing” from better call saul there. Very well played mister.

[@czerkasdk4581]

Holy shit... This is handsdown one of the most interesting videos from a small creator. You got some talent. I actually thought this was a channel with like 100k subs or something.

[@soniccd9983]

I remember i always used to watch gta iv mods crash testing. This was the best deformation before beam became a thing

[@thefancydoge8668]

An easy fix would be to have these driving physics as an option in Gta VI so both parties can be happy. Something Gta V should've done.

[@Emerich2]

nah thats too complicated. They would have to change so much in the game for the one the and the other system, its just wasted time. All missions where you drive would need a lot of work for that. How would the handle the new online mode if there are two driving physics like for example in racing one would have a advantage.

[@thefancydoge8668]

@Emerich2 mafia II has an option to do so, so it's definitely possible, and R* could definitely do it. Driving in Gta missions isn't really intense at all, its not like they are making you do a stunt race after robbing a bank or something, I would see the "realistic" driving to be more of a difficulty slider.

[@BenWilkes-c9n]

@@Emerich2how would if be complicated it’d just be like having sport mode and normal or something

[@VerminSupremeFanPage]

@@BenWilkes-c9n because every mission where you have to chase something or drive fast has to be designed with two different sets of physics in mind. the map would also have to be designed for two different types of physics. the online wouldn't work at all with a toggleable physics. overall it's way too much effort just so a small amount of people can play with GTA 4s driving

[@BenWilkes-c9n]

@@VerminSupremeFanPage no it wouldn’t it’d just be a choice whether you want harder driving mechanics or not

[@PG_ZgONEK]

3:27 Mafia the city of lost heaven soundtrack, thumbs up for this ;d

[@shariqsk3804]

i subbed u need more subscribers seriously this is a very high quality video keep on going man

[@jorgejimenez4279]

0:34 Aye, nfs carbon music Yonderboi - People Always Talk About The Weather

[@ThatOneEyedDog]

the problem with GTA V's driving is that too many children who have no skill play the game... literally every vehicle in GTA Online is AWD now because they just point their vehicle in a direction and floor it the entire way.

[@passivevii4052]

Too many children you act like adults don't play GTA 5 been playing this shit since 16

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

You say that like it's easy to master GTA V driving and that no adult who is automaticly a driverever crashes do to the game just kids who suck at driving... Like I mean GTA passanger vehicle phics are so bad the NPCs can't drive halve the time and even those who have ,mastered it crash out do to it...

[@ThatOneEyedDog]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I'm not saying it's easy to master driving but there's nothing wrong with having a skill curve in a video game also AI drivers have nothing to do with that skill or curve. But driving and racing is a core part of the game And should be rewarded for better performance rather than just making it the lowest common denominator.

[@KTONGAMES]

imagine hating on rockstar for making the game easier and more accessible for everyone to play

[@ThatOneEyedDog]

@@KTONGAMES the game is completely accessible to play you can get anywhere on the map no matter skill level. LITERALLY JUST SAYING ALLOWING SKILL TO IMPROVE HOW GOOD YOU ARE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

[@sloane5]

1:20 oh my god is that turbo dismount music It's been years, i don't know how i almost immediately recognized it lol. but given the related topic (crashing cars) being discussed and the clips playing, i love the subtle reference :)

[@matiasnicolas7610]

the cars sound should be way better in gta 6

[@lost4468yt]

Btw the car speed limit is also likely related to asset streaming limitations of the Xbox 360, PS3, and 2015 era PCs. The consoles were on mechanical hard drives - the optical discs were only used for trivial assets, both games required an 8GB install. And you couldn't reasonably expect to put an SSD as the minimum PC specs in 2015. So a slightly faster hard drive. Yes the PC's were 10 years ahead of the 360 (8 ahead of PS3). But those consoles were very good at this sort of thing. They had shared memory (and the 360 had unified memory, and all GDDR), infinitely better drivers than PC's even today, kernels optimised for gaming (paging, thread priority, always dedicated cores, better performance metrics, etc), an API which would almost always work the same (given no hardware differences) and gave much lower system access, etc etc. Not to mention when you run the same hardware for that long with such a big performance orientated market, you really really learn what the various hardware likes and doesn't like. So you end up with crazy optimisations. It's really nuts they got the game running on such basic systems with 512MB of memory. If anything to me it speaks to how little performance we're actually getting out of modern computers. Yes I understand it's because of the abstraction layers etc, but they can certainly be improved, and so can so so so many other things. Just imagine trying to run GTA V on a PC with 512MB 700MHz total memory, a 3 core 3.2GHz PPC 90nm CPU with 165m transistors, and an ATI Radeon X1800 XT GPU running at 500MHz. Good luck even getting the OS to run.

[@oldjeeper9174]

Arcade car physics is GTA is more about player's preference than about game engine. So there are 2 points: - Arcade car games are way more popular than realistic car games (I don't even mention simrace). Just compare popularity of NFS, Forza Horizon or The Crew and Wreckfest, for example (I know, that they can't be compared, but I don't even know pretty fresh open-world racing games with realistic physics). The main idea- most of the people want to simply look at the car while driving in games, very few want to "feel" the vehicle and get emotions from driving. (Eh, to be simple- Flatout 1 had a nice balance of arcade and realism, but it wasn't very popular. Flatout 2 became much more arcade, but became very popular racing game. That's a simple example of Idea). 2. Gta is not only about cars, but also about shooting and heist. So there is no actual need to make driving more realistic- otherwise, car chases would be slower and much more difficult (what could be not interesting for majority of GTA players). In the end- of course, Rockstar could develop both arcade and realistic car behaviour and give player both options available (like in Mafia 2), but I don't really see why Rockstar need to do this)

[@Eightbite]

Well said, another good example is Mafia 1. The developers actually drove some of those cars from the time period (1930's) in real life, because they wanted to make the driving realistic. And they did, but it made the driving extremely unattractive for a lot of people.

[@contra7631]

Exactly.Gta without high speed chases is just boring.Which Gta-4 basically was.That is why in so many aspects it was so boring to play.

[@Roblocksgaming]

What about BeamNG? It’s a pretty popular realistic car game.

[@average_osiris_enjoyer5914]

​@@RoblocksgamingThat sort of deformation wouldn't suit GTA at all, plus it isn't even fully released yet after 10 years

[@ibrahimmujahed8000]

using this with a stearing wheel mode, (while driving with a stearing wheel) and disabling all the assists (incld traction control) and while driving in First person, this game feels so sick i cant explain. its hard to drive and you realise how bumpy the roads are, but going through a tough corner while speeding (and even trail breaking) its so satisfying. i would say break are a bit too powerful though, which makes the arcade feel comeback

[@sirhamalot110]

the handling in gta 4 worked great for commuter cars, because irl they are far from performance cars. however driving a modern lambo that has more body roll than an 70s american station wagon is something i was personally never a fan of. and it’s the opposite in gta 5, where commuter cars feel like they have $100,000 suspension and tires under them.

[@barrupa]

Thank god you mentioned Wreckfest. I think it has the perfect balance between arcade and realistic physics, much like the Dirt series (pre Dirt Rally) had. Really enjoyable to drive and rewarding of good skill while not being too frustrating for casuals. The cars sort of behave like real cars, just easier to handle, whilst GTA V's cars do not handle like cars at all, no resemblance at all.

[@wingblade6023]

Going full realistic would suck monkey balls. While I hope R* can blend a combination of GTA 4/5 driving physics into something that feels like it has more weight, I like the arcade-y feel just as well. As for improvement, customization to vehicles should have a greater impact on vehicle performance. Different wheel types make your vehicle respond differently to certain terrain. Different spoilers give different downforce values. Suspension having a greater impact to the vehicle's performance; like body roll. Weight reduction options, that actually affects the vehicle's performance. Drivetrain options Engine swap options Widebody options Previous cosmetic options should have practical use; Snorkel, Winch, tools, etc

[@Eightbite]

Different spoliers with different downforce would annoy a lot of people, because if a spoiler you liked added less downforce than the one you didn't like I'd be pretty frustrating.

[@--NOT-OKAY]

Nice use of GTA Liberty City Stories theme music, pure nostalgia!

[@pangtundure]

Ohhhhh, One More Thing GTA 4 PC the Complete Edition 1. Hold F / Tab F features exists. 2. Braking is slow as fuck and Turning needs a little subtle buff. 3. Bike feels shit in that game even on 30 fps

[@denisliber6740]

yeah bikes were pretty bad, they fixed them in TLAD

[@acgn_]

As someone who spends hours building handling files for FiveM servers. I totally understand how you feel.

[@NVProlog]

I’ll take the fun arcadey physics over something shitty and barely realistic like GTA 4. The appeal of GTA Vs driving is that it’s arcadey, grippy and really fun

[@Eightbite]

Yeah I'm actually very surprised how opinions on this topic differ. And I wouldn't say barely realistic I mean it does a pretty good job. GTA 5's is boring because it's too easy and GTA 4's boring because the acceleration sucks. Honestly this mod is excellent you should try it.

[@NVProlog]

@@Eightbite i might

[@VortexStory]

Great handling is why I still play Driver games today !

[@Inar0s]

I always get hit by suicide npc while doing free roam race

[@Maske4]

Man!! the turbo dismount music brought me memories! nice video.

[@d3lta1g]

I think a key thing you are forgetting is the audience. Gta is focused at a wide and general audience. Making it difficult and realistic to a casual or even non gamer makes it unattractive: In making it realistic it shifts the focus from story, gaining money and content to more of a driving mastery aim. What I mean is that it makes it harder to get into the game if going between missions is a pain or overly challenging. I'm not sure if I have correctly explained my thoughts on this but hope my jist is understood

[@Eightbite]

I get what you mean, what I noticed when I played story mode with the mod installed, it actually made me WANT to drive, instead of taking the taxi everywhere. That's the thing, tougher driving doesn't always mean that you're gonna crash into every wall. I actually had the motivation to try and not to crash because of the tougher destruction, and it was incredibly fun. It felt really cinematic, first because of the speed and acceleration, then the destruction ( there were actual stakes involved if you crashed, especially during a car chase ) and last but not least, the suspension sway is sooo satisfying it's unreal. When you take a corner at high speed with an SUV, it actually feels like a top heavy vehicle.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@Eightbite the issue with that is that you're still coming from a biased perspective on the handling. If it's easier for everyone especially very casual players, no one is going to have an issue with accessing more of what the game has to offer and that's what Rockstar was more than likely going for.

[@MLPZephyr]

​@@BleedForTheWorldYou have no business calling yourself a gamer if one aspect of a game drives your attention away from the ENTIRE REST OF THE GAME!

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@MLPZephyr first of all, that's a no true Scotsman. Second of all, it's a game where one of the primary mechanics is to drive around. I think you get the point.

[@SlingerMarshall]

Realistic doesn't always mean better. They had to decide between making the driving fun or realistic. and because the game is literally called "Grand Theft Auto," it implies the majority of the game would be spent driving. So logically, it would make sense to prioritize designing the driving to be as enjoyable as possible at the expense of realism by making it unrealistically responsive. That's just good game design.

[@Eightbite]

Yeah, it appeals to the wider audience basically.

[@Mhl345]

It's obvious to me how the target audience since the early 2010s has been childrens instead of teenagers and adults. This is why nowadays movies, videogames and shows are pathetic.

[@SoulbentAnime]

Nah it's just hacks with bad writing

[@tui-vc9uv]

GTA 5 story was a lot more fun and happy when compared to gta 4s

[@jamarispinner5320]

Ig arcade fans don’t exist?

[@BIGDPIMP]

No bro it’s because the creators are losers , probably daddy’s sons who got connections to work there who in reality probably play with their hole when they get home cause they are useless

[@BIGDPIMP]

Or it’s because it’s actually the old people working on it and they find absolutely useless things ,,cool and fun,, . Because they don’t wanna hire street talents cause street talents are not gonna work for small change , they asking for millions

[@VelociJX]

0:39 this mini glitch is so vital for racing in this game it’s very powerful ! Glad more people are talking about it lol also it’s non official term is Brake Boosting

[@Frank_survival]

Dude used turbo discount music

[@weplo1597]

Is it similiar to Gta 4?

[@Yendhay]

The physics of cars were good but the driving was done poorly

[@Uzdefized]

@@Yendhaygta iv driving was fine if you gained skill it had a skill gap

[@Eightbite]

Since the mod makes the cars faster, it feels a lot better than in GTA 4. The speed makes a huge difference.

[@Yendhay]

@@Uzdefized it wasn’t fine, it was ass, give a single reason why my car have to act like a damn boat everything I chase somebody or just start to circle around everytime I go on high velocity

[@Uzdefized]

@@Yendhay GTA V driving physics are not realistic Collisions with cars especially, it’s like an arcade game with the way you can drive cars across the map and fly in the sky from speeding down and up los santos GTA IV at least didn’t feel like you were in some indestructible vehicle Even fist fighting mechanics are done better in GTA IV GTA V fist fighting is so BAD.. Like a weird right swing and you knock a guy unconscious that’s so dumb What happened to a real street brawl? Even games like Sleeping Dogs has better fist fighting Also when you shoot a npc in gta iv depending where you shoot them it effects how they walk etc while in GTA V there’s basically no realistic rag doll physics GTA V is a great game but it has its flaws

[@joose9061]

music choice was amazing in this video, well done

[@zenkitrueno6787]

Can’t stand GTA 4 jelly suspension. Its like every single car had the sway bars removed.

[@dontreadmyaboutpage2406]

yeah ur right they are little over the line, cars are like boats😂, but i'd rather have that instead of gta5s suspension physics

[@lucaprado544]

I would absolutely love to see in GTA6 areas, like dirt/muddy/rocky roads and swamps where not every car can go through, in GTA5 you can take any tarmac race car and it will drive everywhere, but I would like to have it in a way where if you wanna go to certain places through certain roads you better have a 4x4 or at least a car with higher clearance and proper tyres. I know GTA isnt supposed to be a realistic game, but having it so every car servers a purpose or at least drives differently would be so cool, and enabling modifications to actually affect the car performance in different ways with tradeoffs, so you can have the same car model built for drift, track, street, rally, etc... would be amazing, even if that meant having less overall cars in the game, I prefer quality over quantity, because in GTA Online we have what, 800 cars, but they all feel the same and driving gets dull in the first 5 hours of gameplay

[@sv2eqe]

What is the musick name that he play at 4:33

[@Eightbite]

Taalbi Brothers - Freestyle

[@Jesus_Christ113]

​@@Eightbitelegend

[@Shome2049]

Finally someone covered this mod. This is literally the best handling mod for gta v imo. It also comes with realistic damage.

[@Javaw-8]

Can you teach me how to install it, I can't find the EMB file to modify

[@Roblocksgaming]

Fr I was waiting for somebody to finally add BeamNG physics and realism to GTA V cars

[@Shome2049]

​@@Javaw-8you can skip all that. Simply install the oiv file, and you can enjoy it.

[@DarthZiZi]

People who say GTA 4 driving physics are realistic never drove a car. Car are not boats. Your car doesn't lean on the side every turn etc. Holy shit...

[@NubizZ_]

In fact, this is very bad! But the crash's are amazing for 2008!

[@MLPZephyr]

Tell me you drive a shitty Prius under the speed limit to work everyday of your worthless life without telling me you do.

[@FunniMafaka]

They certainly aren't realistic that's for sure, but what i think a lot of us can agree on, is that it's better than GTA V's handling.

[@Magst3r1]

​@@FunniMafakaNope I will always pick gta 5s handling over 4

[@FunniMafaka]

@@Magst3r1 Your opinion.

[@JeremySandwich8flat]

GTA 4 car driving like a boat

[@ShadowFanQuills3]

Like real life.

[@ivoo604]

imma be honest, cars do feel like a boat if them shocks are soft enough

[@mechadeka]

@@ShadowFanQuills3 You've never driven in real life.

[@ShadowFanQuills3]

@@mechadeka same to you

[@ck_army4899]

turbo dismount music improved the video like 1000 %

[@islammedheryamz8546]

GTA4 has the worst driving physics

[@riggle6627]

the turbo dismount and boneworks music lol, amazing video

[@Ryanbig7738]

Y’all tripping if you think gta 4 driving was realistic

[@rnacro.]

have you ever driven a vehicle before? its been proven many times through ingame and real life tests that it has the most realistic handling and driving out of any gta game

[@theminerboy5694]

It isn’t, but it’s more fun than GTA V driving.

[@Hydrasito]

​@@rnacro. I disagree

[@TaccRaccoon]

1:43 I have an idea They could have 2 car models simultaneously in the same spot But keep one of them invisible when you’re in 3rd person then swap which one you can see when going into first person And have the first person model not be able to take damage as much

[@FunniMafaka]

so like meanwhile the third person model is getting damaged more fragile and when you switch to third person that damaged 3rd person car model will appear?

[@theminerboy5694]

@@FunniMafakaexactly

[@John.Christopher]

Agree with everything except the cars being slow 😂 Has anyone ever seen cars go faster through intersections?

[@MrJasonGallant]

He means the top speed. Cars in GTA V go at more or less 120 mph (some being faster, some slower) which is very slow. A sedan can go that speed so having sports and supers going that slow is fairly underwhelming. They did add faster cars in the PS5/XBOX One series X but are limited to Hao's special works. Not many cars got that treatment.

[@kanenine5838]

The spanish guitar he palys threw the everglades in the minivan, IS Rodrigo y Gabriela, their guitar playing is beautiful!

[@t.waithe246]

You've said the same exact thing I was saying about GTA V in the PS3 days. If only GTA IV suspension physics or slightly heavier gravity would be great for GTA V. Guess we'll have to see how GTA VI does. Great video looking forward to see more videos and mods.

[@BRUH-wz6qj]

got me nostalgic with mafia 1 radio at 3:45

[@gigachad141]

man I like that you use turbo dismount music

[@julliangoosen5584]

I agree with the lack of suspension in GTA 5. I don't know about you guys but there's something really fun about being chased by the cops in gta 4 barreling around a corner and nearly flipping just to land on all four wheels and continue the chase.

[@wilberforce6991]

8:30 Wreckfest is the only game I've ever played where I can actually feel the weight of my car and the other cars when you collide with them

[@DrathVader]

The music choices in this video are impeccable

[@zaccorpseman7366]

Not only car handling and car damage, I wish they would introduce an entire revolutionized driving system in GTA6. For example you get to drive manual cars, you have to engage with it or else the car is stuck in 1st gear limping. Give each car a condition list, mechanical problems that come with it and maintenance schedules. Some active traffic laws would also be nice, where NPCs actually get out of their cars to examine the damage after being hit by you, and would actually try to stop you from fleeing the scene. Once you drive off you get wanted levels as the NPC informs the cops, and if you stay there'll be no cops but you'd lose money.

[@LesterCrest1]

Things that HAS to be added in GTA 6: Better car damage and driving (something that makes the game feel more next gen and not arcade). Missile lock on system removal or drastical nerf (if they wanna keep it then they should make it working on military vehicles only while if you drive normal cars they can only shoot you with a manual aim) Less powerful explosions but more intense (In GTA 5 no matter the distance from the explosion radius you will always die while in GTA 4 it pushes you away and nearby cars get heavily damaged or their windows blow into pieces) A more co-op based online with less freemode PVP, just like the old GTA Online for old gen. (Lets be honest, 90% of us play in a private lobby due to annoying griefers that we can find in a public but this should not happen at all! Online it's meant to be played with other people around the world, if the game forces us to play the game in a private then we are simply paying for a singleplayer subscription).

[@greetingsfromsabhi9497]

i have to say this, as much i hated driving in GTA 4 initially, it felt good once I mastered it. Getting perfect drift without crashing really made driving addicting in GTA 4. I wish they bring something in between in GTA 6.

[@叵コ]

didn't even notice you had like 870 subscribers before i checked, good job man keep grinding, i'll be waiting to see your channel blow up

[@DSFXRENDER]

that track at 3:52 earned a sub ;) good choice sir. heisenberg would be proud.

[@trippyfishie2295]

Mini van segment earnt my like lmao