What Guitar Teachers Don't Tell You

[@GabrielGonzalez-mw9cg]

Realest take I've seen on coaching. Applies to all facets of life. Well said brother.

[@mr.sorenzo]

Firm handshakes brother! Keep rockin'!

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

"I fear more a man who has practiced one kick 1000 times than one who has practiced 1000 kicks one time." - Bruce Lee.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@BrunodeSouzaLino 🔥

[@glenndavid8725]

I've finally discovered after 5 years of frustration I am going to be a pretty decent classical guitar player, I started from stone cold at 55 years old. My teacher is a guitar God.

[@mr.sorenzo]

Love this! Congratulations on following your passion Glen! Not everyone does it. Keep playin unapologetically and have fun every second of it! Firm handshakes 🤝🏼

[@Summalogicae]

That’s awesome! Who is your teacher?

[@Greenjagsurf]

I've started to try to play guitar as at least a serious hobby starting last year at 50 something after heart problems keep me in the house a lot. a competent instructor and a serious willing student works, a great teacher with someone that's unwilling to work or a student with no teacher is going to make it difficult

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@Greenjagsurf congratulations on finding a new thing to be passionate about at 50! Many people just live their lives in a “rinse and repeat” manner at this age and more, including my own parents. A willing student without teacher is not that hard though. For example, I’m self taught. But you’re absolutely correct that a good teacher is also important. I said the same in the video. A good teacher can certainly help avoiding some mistakes and speed up the progress 💪🏼🎸

[@sole__doubt]

Never been a better time to play. You have all the answers at your fingertips with vidoes like this. You just have to do the work.

[@sole__doubt]

What a time to be a guitar player. Ive learned more in the past few year because of youtube videos than I did in the past 2 decades of playing. Great advice Mr Sorenzo. Subscribed.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@sole__doubt firm handshakes 🤝🏼 keep rockin!

[@wagonet]

Practice and dont give up. I quit guitar a long time ago. Im back at it and this guy speaks the Truth. Im focused and practice a lot more now. KZbin has changed the game

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@wagonet love this! Firm handshakes! Keep at it 🎸💪🏼

[@sononekoh]

You just saved me a lot of money. I'm 30 and about to purchase my first electric guitar. I have been wanting to learn my entire life and finally decided it was time. I've been looking at different classes and tutors online and pretty much ready to buy into whatever clicked first. I'm really glad I clicked on this video instead! Thank you Mr Sorenzo, Keep up the good work.

[@luigi_fan2989]

a teacher is still very important, but getting a lesson teacher in person is way better than any online class

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@sononekoh i’m glad it’s the case. But like I said in the video, instructors are still important. But not the most important comparing with your reps. They can save you a lot of time figuring things out. But again, there are legends like Guthrie Given who are self taught.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@luigi_fan2989 I agree. Assuming that the the instructor is decent. This video is not to trash instructors. Like I said in the video, they are important. But not as important as the reps.

[@-whiskey-4134]

I started learning guitar and bass when I was around 14, I’m 31 now. Believe me, you can find all the information for free, you just have to apply it and take time. Another thing that helped was hanging with other musicians and being in bands. I always did vocals in bands (metal screams/growls/etc), but I love playing instruments and would learn from them lol The rest was purely from my own practice and learning to play songs. That’s just me. Like if you want to learn tapping, find a free tutorial on how it works, practice it, and find songs that incorporate tapping and repeat it til you get it.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@-whiskey-4134 Great points! And you’re on the money regarding being around other musicians. Good music teachers are important and great for those who want to excel faster, and use an experienced person’s input. But the majority of it, like you said is repetition. Keep rockin Whiskey🤝🏼🎸🥃

[@mitchpattimusic]

Yep! One of my former drum student's parents asked me when I was helping their 14 year old son get ready for drumline camp if he would be snareline ready in 3 months. When I answered, "that depends entirely on how much time he puts in outside of our weekly 30 minute sessions," they looked at me like I just punched their dog lol.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@mitchpattimusic you should’ve brought out your magic 🪄 and magically turn the kid into Joey Jordison in a week. How dare you? In fact drum sticks look like magic 🪄

[@Carlosocc95]

Repetition and speed up your metronome is the key. I started to learn guitar by myself last year, but I was stuck until 2 months ago I wasnt able to change between really easy chords untiI someone gave me those 2 tips I really started to develop the hability.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@Carlosocc95 you’re spot on! 💯

[@billrootes-composersongwri5552]

LOVE the brutal honesty

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@billrootes-composersongwri5552 Firm handshakes 🤝🏼 Your students are lucky to have an honest and a straight shooter instructor. Keep rockin!

[@PascalDesgagnes]

This video deserves a million likes. Whether it's art, sports, science, or any other field, you clearly understand the dedication required to master a skill

[@mr.sorenzo]

🤝🏼🤝🏼 firm handshakes

[@johnphifer703]

This video randomly popped up in my recommended and I watched it all the way through. Thank you for your insight!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@johnphifer703for sure! Firm handshakes John🤝🏼

[@FeguerFineArt]

Same here.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@FeguerFineArt thanks heaps pal! Glad to hear

[@SirRenee]

This is a fantastic video! Loved it! The only thing I wanna nitpick on is the fact that you told us to turn off the distortion. If you wanna practice a distorted lick, you should practice it with distortion. Distortion amplifies every little mistake you make and almost forces you to work on your technique until you can play it cleanly. If you just practice with a clean sound, you'll likely sound a little more sloppy than you want when distortion is turned back on

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@SirRenee thanks heaps for the words and the feedback 🙏🏼 I hear your point about distortion. And you’re right it amplifies everything and you’ll sound sloppy if you don’t train it. I used to teach it this way: practice clean first, then with distortion. For the following reasons: 1. amplification and sustain: clean tones don’t have it. Means ppl have to work extra hard to achieve a clean note and sustain. Makes people more accurate and the fingers stronger. 2. Better dynamics: clean tone allows for focusing on dynamics and articulation better. Volume of the notes, picking intensity etc.

[@PascalDesgagnes]

This video deserves a million likes. Whether it's art, sports, science, or any other field, you clearly understand the dedication required to master a skill.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@PascalDesgagnes Thanks a million for the kind words! You too because It takes one to know one🤝🏼

[@whyYUbee]

Right now I am sitting down with my electric guitar that I bought 10 years ago and never really followed up with my learning path because of misconception and wanting to play everything at once. You helped me immensely with this video. THANK YOU!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@whyYUbee Glad to hear! Good luck with the practice sessions. Enjoy every second!😊

[@whyYUbee]

@@mr.sorenzo Thank you 🙏

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@whyYUbee 🤝🏼

[@HieronymousCheese]

This valuable lesson applies to a lot more in life than just guitar playing. But it was well worth stating here. Cheers.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@HieronymousCheese You’re so right! Practice and putting in the work is crucial in everything. Firm handshakes 🤝🏼

[@WineSippingCowboy]

I had a chance to become a student of Joe Satriani in Berkeley, across the Bay Area from my hometown San Francisco 🌉. But, I had piano 🎹 lessons in those years 😢. I did learn the piano 🎹 well. 😃 I cut ✂️ down on lessons on piano 🎹, other instruments in order to focus on singing 🎶. I am much better 😌 at singing. I will head back to guitar 🎸 and other instruments later. Consistent practice and performance 🎭 are keys 🔑 to performing well. 😎

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@WineSippingCowboy bang! I never met him in person. You’re spot on that consistent practice is key 🔑 Come back to guitars now 🎸😁. We miss you in the guitar world and it’s the best instrument ever

[@jordantaylor1988]

This is true in all areas of education. Students are responsible for the vast majority of their own success or lack there of.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@jordantaylor1988 well said. Firm handshakes 🤝🏼

[@jgil2757]

Thank you for the great advice. I haven't heard this from too many other instructors. I agree with you, and it's how I have been approaching my practice. It seems to be working. Another good piece of advice I follow from another good instructor is to learn songs. By learning songs, you'll also be learning theory and techniques.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@jgil2757 Thanks for the kind words 🤝🏼 And what a great piece of advice you just brought up. Learning songs is fantastic because of what you said, but also makes things more fun and purposeful. Specially if it is a song that one really likes

[@m2svirtual384]

Ok, this might get long... sorry! I agree and disagree. I think there are some that naturally clicked with music, period. They have a built-in sense of rhythm and probably extraordinary pitch recognition. Jimmy Page and David Gilmour to name a couple. I don't believe they ground out reps. I believe they became 'musical' very quickly, and that allowed them to immediately begin making their own music. They didn't grind licks, they interpreted entire songs. They also hear other instruments and arrangements in their head. Yngwie did reps. He's stated it before, and in my opinion, I can clearly hear that in his playing. Clapton didn't grind, but he did grind out his vibrato at a point in his career. You know who else grinded, admits it, and you can clearly hear it? Joe Bonamassa. Another blues player that didn't grind, and therefore has 10k% more feel? Gary Moore. Sykes for that matter, as well. If you don't have tons of built-in musicality, you can force it - and repetitions will be your friend. But my suggestions would be to grind songs instead of grinding licks, and here's why. There is rhythm inside of solos and licks that many students never really connect to. They are too busy focusing on notes. When you learn songs, you learn hundreds, if not thousands of little tiny rhythmic ideas that add that flow and musicality to your licks and solos. When there is a group of people and a guitar, one guitarist can pick up the instrument and start going through all the impressive licks he knows - and people will watch. The next guitarist picks it up and begins playing songs. Now the people start singing and participating. The lick player will run out of licks eventually, and in a very short period of time start repeating himself. The song player, with just a handful of chords and voicings, can play for hours and never bore the crowd. Be the song player. You are correct... a VAST amount of KZbin guitar teachers just spend time devising ways to get you to buy their stuff or get you subbed to their patreon. Long gone are the good 'ol innocent days. Good to run across your channel, and my best to you!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@m2svirtual384 Firm handshakes 🤝🏼 Thanks heaps for expressing your disagreement so nicely and politely. What you said is certainly something for me to think about All the best to you as well 🙏🏼

[@shorts_king9273]

i teach art to children.also i have started playing a guitar (which was my childhood dream but got a chance very late,still)and want to be good at blues and leads. Now this is the same damn thing i say to my student each and every time." repetition, repetition, repetition" that's it.I will teach you the foundation and you have to practice. Also it applies to everything. you want to be good at basketball, you have to practice, you want to be a drifter, you have to practice, the magical word is" REPETITION"

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@shorts_king9273 🫡

[@badoongy6362]

Thanks for posting this :) this is inspiring me to tackle the goals seem impossible right now like sweep picking and I'm going to learn it asap!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@badoongy6362 It’s a great technique! Do those reps and enjoy every second of the playing! 😊💪🏼🎸

[@mr.b3699]

I played in highschool, stopped when I joined the military and picked it up this past Christmas. I sat and learned the major scale, a few hours a day depending on my work schedule. Then I started learning Randy Rhoads, Jake E Lee solos etc. Once I recognized what key and pattern they were playing I was able to learn all other scales really fast. It made sense, now I'm learning each individual note along with technique. I love playing guitar, as frustrating as it can be.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@mr.b3699 know the feeling. We’re lucky to have found something that joys us this much. Keep rockin brother! and thank you for your service🫡

[@mr.b3699]

​@mr.sorenzo appreciate it man, I can't get enough of playing.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@mr.b3699 🎸💪🏼

[@juliuscaesar5001]

a 100 percent right I remember seeing a documentary or something on Jimi hendrix and while they're talking to him Hendrix was preparing a breakfast and the guitar hanging on his back playing riffs every time he had a break, many talented players didn't become worldwide known because they didn't have the dedication to sit and repeat over and over Thanks bro for the video its really inspiring

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@juliuscaesar5001 glad it is! Keep rocking my guy🎸💪🏼

[@PancakeSyrup1]

This legend was the lesson I needed

[@juliuscaesar5001]

@@mr.sorenzo thank you brother 🤘

[@thescoon1]

I completely agree with this. The way I rate good teachers is not by their best students, but by how much better their *worst* students get. I've had students who were always going to be great, and I don't take credit for them and their abilities. Then I have students who really needed help, and for those, I take *some* credit for motivating them, and finding ways to communicate clearly to them.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@thescoon1 Firm handshakes 🤝🏼 Your students are lucky to have an honest and understanding instructor. Keep rockin!🎸

[@chril5061]

yeah i’ve been working on three different things, and it has took about 6 months of reputation to help and i have an instructor that has taught me not how to play as fast but how to play more effectively aka better picking, better finger placement and better ways to hold the guitar for different things. i will say mine is very classical so teaches a lot about modes and scales and stuff like that. i’ve had two teachers one helped with normal songs and such i didn’t grow as much under that style of teaching compared to my current teacher that goes more on things i don’t know

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@chril5061 First of all, I’m so glad that you’ve gotten better and improving. That’s all that matters. Regarding your instructors, like I said in the vid, they are important. Hence the difference you sensed between your instructors. But they are not the most important. I’ll put it this way: without your reps and practices, it doesn’t matter who teaches you. No repetition= no improvements.

[@WithCarePlz]

I tell this to people in my own way all the time. People want to buy an easy pill that will fix everything so that they don’t have to do work. People often want to pay for guitar lessons thinking the teacher will make them good. The truth is that you have to keep picking that guitar up on their own time and learning one thing at a time. A teacher ain’t gonna learn for you. And yeah, being a guitar player is a lot like self-torture. I sat and played “Brown Eyed Women” by the Grateful dead for 2 hours straight yesterday. Over and over and over again. That’s the thing.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@WithCarePlz “A teacher ain’t gonna learn for you”…couldn’t have said it better! Keep rocking pal!🎸

[@WithCarePlz]

@@mr.sorenzo i have had a few friends ask me to teach them guitar. I noticed both behave the same way. They want to live their lives as normal and then show up once in a while having not picked their guitars up since the last time. I’m not a teacher but I noticed this immediately. My reaction was- i’m not teaching you. You’re teaching you. I’m keeping you accountable and being your head coach. I refuse to sit and teach somebody an A chord etc, I mean if we’re playing and I’ll show them how I’m playing something sure. But I’m not gonna sit there and show somebody how to do literally every single thing on guitar. If you aren’t learning chords and equipment etc on your own time- foh. You aren’t a guitar player and never will be. A guitar teacher should be thought of like a head coach in sports. Phil Jackson didn’t have to teach Michael Jordan how to dribble. Guitar players hear this all the time from people: “I wish I had the time.” Nobody has the time to suck at guitar for 5 years. You have to want it bad enough to make the time. Everybody who plays guitar also had a life while they were learning.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@WithCarePlz I hear you. Sometimes it’s harder to teach friends too from setting the expectations stand point and being the guide in the class

[@WithCarePlz]

@@mr.sorenzo I feel like i’m a good teacher, but not for beginners. I could probably teach people how to improvise, and how to sound better, guitar theory etc. But I just get too annoyed at beginners not caring enough. I don’t have the patience. Maybe I’ll be a specialized teacher and show people who care how to improvise 🤷‍♂️

[@GuitarIv69]

Exactly. Practice is key. I recently got a handmade Custom Les Paul I commissioned 5 years ago. The perfect guitar. Guess what. I own a 90€ Harley Benton Telecaster. Good guitar as well. I sound the same on both instruments. Practice makes perfect.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@GuitarIv69 spot on! Reminded me of Nuno’s story playing with Van Helen’s rig🤝🏼

[@corm1000]

Steve Vai has even talked about playing the same lick for hours and hours on end, to put on one of his albums.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@corm1000 🫡

[@galacticfreds5339]

if you have the love for the instrument or whatever youre persuring you will find this out naturally

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@galacticfreds5339 🤝🏼

[@johnd9357]

Well this is great news for me as a beginner. What I lack in talent I make up for in sheer grit and the ability to play the exact same lick 10,000 times in a month.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@johnd9357 Respect! 🫡

[@popcorn_showers]

Awesome! Would love a video about what makes an effective practice regimen

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@popcorn_showers You got it! 🤝🏼 I’ll make it and comment the link here for you!

[@popcorn_showers]

@@mr.sorenzo thank you, kindly

[@mr.sorenzo]

Here you go! As promised 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6GZg6GJap2pfKMsi=U0s_suxI_JKka3y-

[@popcorn_showers]

@@mr.sorenzo whoa that was fast, let me check it out. Thank you sir!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@popcorn_showers My pleasure. Please do and let me know your thoughts 😊

[@DadbodDadbod]

Good job. Maybe what good teachers do is show students how to appreciate their own incremental progress, so that the student learns to enjoy the journey, versus only looking at the destination.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@DadbodDadbod Very well said. 100% agree. The joy and fun is actually in the progress

[@timothymclaughlin-u7y]

You are so right

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@timothymclaughlin-u7y 🤝🏼

[@gallantcollao1414]

thanks for this video sir!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@gallantcollao1414 Thank you for watching friend! Glad it was useful.

[@gallantcollao1414]

@@mr.sorenzo your welcome sir!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@gallantcollao1414 🤝🏼

[@Skaggy2012]

Good point my man

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@Skaggy2012 firm handshakes brethren🤝🏼 keep rocking!🎸

[@j.d.leslie8458]

Like Robert Conti said, you don't learn to play jazz by talking about playing jazz.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@j.d.leslie8458 it’s so true. One has to walk the walk

[@therob7937]

Bang on my man.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@therob7937 Firm handshakes 🤝🏼🎸

[@MrBelmontcain]

You can't account for what the player is gonna do the other 23 hours in a day.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@MrBelmontcain never can. Very true

[@mikebrookfield]

True story.. good vid👍.. keep it burnin!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@mikebrookfield Firm handshakes 🎸🤝🏼 Happy Sunday!

[@AlexanderGhezzo]

Interesting thoughts!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@AlexanderGhezzo Thanks man!

[@ScottGailor]

What the brand of that guitar strap?

[@mr.sorenzo]

Doesn’t have a brand. I bought it on Ebay. I just says “Padded leather guitar strap”. I’m sure you can find a lot of similar one on ebay or amazon

[@usafreedom7967]

Trueeeee

[@mr.sorenzo]

[@Olyxes]

Easily earned a sub and like, Thanks!

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@Olyxes Thanks heaps! That’s terribly kind of you🤝🏼keep rocking!🎸

[@chriskitchen4772]

Yes, being consistent is one of the most important things. Playing every day. Thanks.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@chriskitchen4772 spot on! Keep at it Chris🎸

[@SixEightSixty]

reps is where its at

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@SixEightSixty short, sweet and on the money 🤝🏼

[@joebustos6413]

Most people are more interested in learning how to cover songs than learn how to actually play.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@joebustos6413 there’s no difference between playing and covering songs. In both you’ll still need some guitar skills and you have to rep it to get it. And if a person is satisfied at a few chord and a strumming pattern, I guess that’s where it ends

[@Michael-t9k]

My guitar teacher said to play well you need strong hands. Then I seen dainty women playing lead solos very well. I figured he was wrong and I quit his lessons. I can play lead alot better using less pressure w my hands.. Truth figure it out for yourself.

[@pamulawallace4330]

❤❤❤❤😅😅😅😅

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@pamulawallace4330 🤍 back at you! 😊

[@rodneydelboy6910]

The thing is most teachers are super talented people and they don't know how to transfer that knowledge. My friend teaches kids and he doesn't get how can someone not play a bar chord like he learned in 1 second. To play the any instrument well you need to have good cordination and a mechanical talent in your body to pull it off and I never had that even though I wasted hours in the guitar I will always suck.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@rodneydelboy6910 Rodney you’re 100% correct about the skill of being a guitar player is totally different to the skill of being a teacher! And I said the same in the video 🤝🏼 “Play any instrument well” is subjective. Compared to who? Others? If so, there’s always someone better. It’s a never ending cycle. Comparing to the best of what you can be? This is much better. Now practicing, and having fun with your guitar actually means something. Never focus on the talent side. It’s something none of us can control and damn sure there is someone who got it better. If you suck, practice and have fun to suck less. There’s a lot of joy in this😊 I’m telling you from experience

[@rodneydelboy6910]

​@@mr.sorenzo The talent part annoys me because I can't make money playing music. I'm from the balkans and here if you play in a wedding band you don't have to have a job you are basicly middle class person. The only joy I have in the guitar is writing sucky demos 😅

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@rodneydelboy6910 don’t let it annoy you. Because you can’t change it. I can’t either. Can I show you something? Please KZbin “Muse- Supermassive Black Hole Live”. Watch it, then find its tabs. They sell out freakin ARENAS with this simple song. It was even featured in a Twilight movie! Believe me! The talent bit is not even a factor you should think about.

[@Stephen-zx4uf]

The right teacher or coach can open the needed pathways. Teachers who have no clue about how to unlock the genius will follow the tried and true pedagogy that keeps most students locked in ruts for decades. A great teacher sees the Gold and offers a different course to help students toss ineffective practices and grow into natural strengths.

[@FrankProcopio]

When I was in primary school, some kids were naturally great at running. No matter how hard I tried, I could never keep up with them. It seems that some of us just aren't built for it, no matter how much we practice. Some things we can never be good at. I wish I was wrong.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@FrankProcopioFrank you’re not wrong. I think you’re just tackling guitar from the wrong angle. Specially if you’re a hobbyist and not a full time musician. Like most of us. The goal is not to become better than most. The goal is to maximize your fun and fun time with the instrument. And the way to maximize this good times is to see yourself get better to the best of your abilities. Between a super talented professional who has to reluctantly drag him/herself to gigs through injuries and carpal tunnel etc. AND a total absolutely ZERO talented beginner who has fun everytime he/she picks up the guitar, the beginner has won! big time! To add, you don’t need to play complicated songs to have fun btw. KZbin “Muse- Supermassive Black Hole Live”. It’s a really simple song. They sell out arenas to play it for the crowd. Keep rocking Frank! Keep playing and have fun every second of it! 🤝🏼 ma brother

[@thediminished98]

Well actually, that 90% is not going to happen if you are stumbling in the dark. It's actually not that hard to make a case for your role as a teacher. And there are may things that go into not getting bored, other than discipline. A good teacher can help you with a 5 year plan. Also we don't know how many students Joe had. Also just because not all of them became Steve Vai doesn't mean they don't have careers. Even just paying for you family with you music is a career.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@thediminished98 I think I’ve already said in the video that instructors and teachers are important. Or didn’t I? Regarding Joe’s student count and careers, we know that Joe had many from decades of teaching. We also know for a fact that in every class (uni, high school, guitar, boxing, you name it) for every instructor, not all students are going to be the top. Use your own high school class as an example if the Joe Satriani example doesn’t do it for you

[@thediminished98]

@@mr.sorenzo you also said that it's hard to make a case after you say the truth, witch actually isn't. Because discipline is not 90% actually, and a good teacher doesn't just show you how to play thing, they also have a plan for you. So no, a good teacher will actually tell you upfront how important discipline is because it's really not 90 percent..Steve Vai doesn't just sherd, it takes so many other skills to make money with your guitar, and they are not discipline related. Not directly anyway. The entire premise of this video is wrong. Sorry to say

[@thediminished98]

The best players I know, told me that their job is to make students figure stuff on their own one day. And that genuine approach will make any adult that wins their own money respect you, and believe in you. It's actually a flex to say that out loud and people with money apreciate someone who doesn't try to find excuses to make a profit.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@thediminished98 EVERYTHING is related to effort and practice, that is within the control of an individual. The instructor can show you the way (planning, technique etc) and a good instructor will also emotionally empower you. These are very important. But again the instructors can’t walk the walk for you. Walking the walk is the actual walking (the 90%). In any class not all students will do as well as the teacher teaches. In fact the end results are always on a wide spectrum. People within the same class, having the exact same teacher do totally differently. The proof is right there. The premise of this video is quite accurate, proven and simple.

[@basandi4017]

I think you confused being good guitarist if someone took lessons by Joe Satriani vs marketing thing... There is a lot of incredible guitarists, but not famous due to lack of marketing... It's remind me on Yamaha Pacifica guitars... Yamaha Pacifica guitars are underrated guitars... Why? Because Yamaha didn't put so much effort in marketing as they did with Yamaha acoustic guitars.... So having skills but not being famous has nothing to do with guitar teacher... It's marketing thing... Non of us is capable of verify how many Joe Satriani's students became good guitarists... Don't get me wrong, but in my opinion you're going only in one direction while not seeing wider picture.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@basandi4017 No, I didn’t confuse marketing with being a good guitarist. You didn’t listen to the example to get the points. You listened to counter argue. Forget about Joe Satriani. Think of your elementary school class, and your teacher. The teacher was the same for your class and every other class before and after you. The academic end result of all of you was not the same. It ranged on a spectrum. How much can your elementary school teacher take credit for the success of the top 1% of the class? Why didn’t EVERY student become top 1% if the teacher factor is the same for all students. That’s the point

[@basandi4017]

@@mr.sorenzo But you don't know all Joe Satriani's students results my Friend. That's the point. If you haven't heard about many Joe Satriani's students brilliant results it doesn't mean they don't exist. No matter if we talk about Joe S. or any other teacher. Without knowing facts it's not possible to judge correctly any teacher by saying only low percentage of his students get to the top skills. Anyway... I do respect your opinion, but do espect mine. I personally wouldn't judge any teacher without knowing his all students skills level.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@basandi4017 I used the elementary school example instead the Satriani example above, to get the point across. Didn’t work unfortunately.

[@mr.sorenzo]

also understand that I didn’t disrespect your opinion. You used the phrase “you’re confusing…”. And I used the same tone and wording to respond.

[@keeleye7225]

A guitar teacher will correct bad technique that a self-taught student may never catch.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@keeleye7225 I agree. Like I said in the video, teachers are important

[@andyharpist2938]

I have given up on teachers. Many times I leave less motivated, and sometimes utterly demoralised. My spirit seems to have been sucked from me and deposited within the teacher.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@andyharpist2938 you’ve given up on the teachers, but don’t give up on yourself. Pick up the guitar, practice your favorite songs, and just enjoy every second 😊

[@andyharpist2938]

@@mr.sorenzo Absolutely correct Sir. The greatest thing is that now there is so much help from the net. There's a mass of explanations and help everywhere. Kindly, slow, nicely-made lessons...and all free. Never has it been so easy to enjoy the process of learning... .....And I'm amazed that it's all so possible.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@andyharpist2938 spot on! There is so much free great info online now. Keep rockin🎸

[@coronal2207]

I think there is a problem here where you are comparing only people following the same instructor, but not those who don't follow any instructor and have 0 musical background. I'd wager a dedicated person who has 0 idea where to start and foes not take any lessons is hardly going to fare better than someone who attends lessons and only practice sparingly at home.

[@theojmandude3995]

*monotony

[@andybaldman]

I disagree. The other thing society doesn't tell you is that people who are really good at guitar (or music, or anything for that matter) are born with something. It isn't something you can make up for with practice alone, if you don't have that gift. Anyone can learn SOME music. Anyone can practice and get SOME amount better. But the people who are REALLY good didn't get there just because they practiced more. They practiced more because they have innate talent, and that talent allowed them to absorb and retain knowledge faster than people who don't have it. Talent is something that no amount of 'repetition' will get you. Be aware of this before dedicating your life to something you think you want to be good at. If you have innate talent for it, you'll go further faster than someone who doesn't. (The same applies to math, verbal ability, physical ability and just about every other human trait.) And if you don't believe this, just go look at the number of 10-year-old guitar prodigies there are on youtube. Did they get that way because they practiced more than everyone else? Of course not. They haven't been alive long enough. They are born with an ability to absorb and retain faster than others.

[@thediminished98]

You don't know a lot about music if you think like that. Let me tell you. 1 there are not that many 10 year olds. They are actually 12 year olds. 2 you can start playing guitar at 5 (I had a hard time believing this at first too) and you can actually play pretty fat in 6-7 years with a good enough teacher. Those kids are not prodigies at all. They seem like that because every parent of such kid tries to hide that info so their kid seems more special than he really is. Those kids are still impressive, don't get me wrong but not out of the ordinary.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@andybaldmanI got your point. I’ve had many people (not you) even taking the extreme position: use talent as a factor to complain about the inequality in the outcome and their progression. That others progress faster and better for winning a genetic lottery. Fine, let’s just say that they and you are right and it’s about talent, or talent is the big factor. And that it is not fair. ok…and?! Where can we go from here? To me, talking about talent is a HUGE waste of time because we can’t control it or do anything about it. The only thing we can control is our time and effort. Also, the idea is not to that everyone has to become a full time guitar professional prodigy. Frankly, most people have jobs and families and don’t even want to become full time guitarists. The idea is that everyone who touches the guitar has to enjoy doing it. And a big part of enjoying playing guitar is improving in it to the best of your ability. To this end only, practicing and playing guitar matters. I can name you many professional bands/ guitar players who are no Guthrie Govan or Julian Lage (talking about child prodigies), and still make fantastic music and still play amazingly. The bottom line is: focus on what you can do.

[@andybaldman]

@@thediminished98 Disagree. You think you can get as good as those kids in 7 years of your own practicing, if they started at 5 and they are only 12? I'd bet you can't. You'll get better, but you won't be as good as someone who is born with exceptional innate aptitude. It's easy to think anyone can do anything they want, with enough practice. But that's a lie society tells itself. The fact is, just like some people are naturally better at math or other skills than others, the same applies to music. People who suck at math will never get as good as someone who has innate aptitude for it, no matter how much they practice.

[@andybaldman]

@@mr.sorenzo It sounds like we mostly agree. However I also think it's important for every person to realize UP FRONT that the Guthrie Govans, Steve Vais, and Julian Lages didn't get where they are because they practiced more than everyone else. If anything they actually spent less time than a lot of people. Because their aptitude allowed them to absorb and retain information faster. Yes, they practiced. But they started at a higher starting point that most people, and accelerated faster. People should be made aware of this at a young age. Why? Because there are a lot of people out there selling stories (often associated with schools, online lessons, guitars, teaching products, etc), selling a lie that all you need to be Guthrie is to practice, practice, practice. And it simply isn't true. Life is also much easier if you figure out where your aptitude lies BEFORE you invest thousands of hours chasing something. But we don't teach people to do that. We just tell them they can do anything if they just buy this product or take this class, and 'do the work'. And that isn't the whole truth. A lot of people waste a lot if time chasing something they'll never achieve, and often miss out on other things they would be more successful at, if they just identified their aptitude first.

[@mr.sorenzo]

@@andybaldman we mostly agree for sure. And I agree that many people sell the stories you mentioned. I never said that by practicing only one can become Guthrie. All I said was and I quote “The only difference between people who become good at playing the guitar, and those who don’t…is [repetition]”. Don’t you agree with this? Becoming good doesn’t mean becoming a full time professional guitar player prodigy, right?