What happened AFTER man confronted pedophile in Mormon church

On Oct. 14, 2018, Roger Stephenson warned a Mormon congregation in Utah that a man in their ward had sexually molested him as a child. Roger’s mic was shut off and the Bishop escorted Roger out of the chapel and into his office where Roger explained why he had come that day.
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[@DeathValleyDazed]

This is very compelling and powerful. Roger Stephenson handled himself so well. Even though the bishop expressed empathy for Roger's pain and admitted that this incident was beyond his personal expertise and capacity he still showed some "good ol' boy's" attitude about the predator being "too feeble" to re-offend. Roger taught him a lesson about that fallacy. Kudos to you NewNameNoah for taking the time and for sharing your technical expertise in recording these significant events that LDS should be "thanking you for" instead of placing obstacles in your path. Let's hope that videos like this will empower others to step up.

[@Sam-dc9bg]

Bishop seemed nice and understanding but "I will do everything I was trained to do" usually means the ones with the real power will cover it up.

[@konnereyre7129]

it is sad and the church should do something about it

[@bobbihoffman8452]

That means that they will protect the church at all costs. It's an oath that these people take in the temple.

[@mcfcDJ51]

@@bobbihoffman8452 facts it’s so sick and evil. puts a bad name on actual Christians who serve the church to serve God.

[@ameliajoyner5220]

Think of all the kids he saved by doing this . I think he was very brave. I hope the parents in that congregation took this seriously

[@dewilew2137]

we all know they didn't

[@mcfcDJ51]

@@dewilew2137 no need to be negative. hopefully they did.

[@oriolesfan61]

They wouldn't have

[@numbereightyseven]

@@mcfcDJ51 Pull your head out of the sand and get a grip on reality. I grew up with your sort of attitude, and all it does is make for dishonesty, cowardice, destructive secrets and unfulfilled lives.

[@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049]

I called the bishop of my Uncle who went to prison for a decade for pedophilia. He is a level 3 which is the worst-case and most likely to offend again. When I told the bishop this he told me he is aware. My uncle has a file and has been discussed in preisthood leadership meetings. I was told as long as he is trying to be better he is allowed at church. That bishop acknowledged that he has a problem and it is obvious when you meet him. They don't care.

[@butterflygirl2285]

IMO - That is disgusting. It puts minors at risk. How can members of the church permit this? Hopefully, there will be lawsuits against the Church.

[@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049]

@@butterflygirl2285 I recorded to conversation because I thought I would be accused of lying. You know because the church can do no wrong blah blah blah. Well my member biological sister found out I recorded and freaked out. I told her well members don't want to hear the truth and don't believe me when I tell it, so I had to protect myself. I ended up deleting it and she still won't talk to me. Church is more important then family I guess. So much for family centered.

[@theclawsoncrew13]

This scares me deeply. I have a 9 yr old daughter and if anyone laid their hands on her in any type of way, whether sexually or not God would have to stop me from not killing the jackass.

[@lil.honey74]

Amen

[@caleb8239]

I think we misunderstand the intentions behind keeping quiet about sexual assault allegations. Sure the guy's wife and kids might starve, but worse than that the fake and fraudulent image of the church could be tarnished! Gasp! Oh no, not that! We'd have to rebrand if that happened!

[@timwolf4005]

Wow that Bishop handled things very well for having not known anything about this before hand. Seemed to have genuine concern and trying to help Roger out the best he can. I think Roger handled the conversation with the Bishop very well also. Hopefully this can bring Roger some peace.

[@NewNameNoah]

Tim Wolf, agreed. Roger was well spoken and the Bishop seemed to show true empathy for Roger.

[@kittylove2975]

Being old, frail, and having difficulties getting out of his chair, isn't an excuse to pitty or dismiss his crimes against youths. I hope that's remembered as the church investigates the charges against him...

[@pogmom]

Aka Perez the church won’t. They don’t care.

[@kittylove2975]

@@pogmom Perhaps the fact that he exposed that pedophile to the congregation will make many in attendance question church policy. Hopefully...

[@stingray6154]

Good for you sir!! You were escorted out, yes, but they heard you. They heard exactly what they needed to hear. I commend your bravery!

[@freebox_ASC]

Well then why you killed thoses 6 children

[@siddthekid5046]

This sounds like a genuinely good bishop. Well handled by both parties.

[@NewNameNoah]

Siddthekid, agreed.

[@andywaynebrooks]

people need to do this as much as possible. It needs to become common and mainstream and expected. Take back these meetings. Take ownership. They deserve to be called out for lying. They deserve to be embarrassed. Get out and call them out, in public and to their faces.

[@assiafalihp9850]

Rodger my heart truly goes out to you. I’m so sorry you had to carry that trauma around for as long as you did and I could not be more with you that you decided to talk about it. As you said it’s not easy & I’m so proud of you. Truly appreciate you taking the steps toward helping others gets the strength to tell their story🤎

[@GlitteranGold]

My boyfriends Mormon I always worry what they could of done to him in the temple. I asked him if anything ever happened to him and he says no but I feel like he’s lying to me? I don’t trust this sick church.

[@Janiceleatham2112]

This is disgusting. Why aren't these people prosecuted. I live in Utah. Look up watch dog for people convicted of child sexual abuse. There are more here than any place I have ever seen.

[@bakerwannabe4435]

This man is brave for coming forward.

[@artbydawnae]

This man is so brave!! I hear you, I see you, I believe you. Thank you for trying to protect other people/kids. 😢

[@snkbarqueen]

At my old ward in CA, had a registered pedo attending. All of us moms were livid and many stopped attending because the pedo had “rights”. Luckily I am an LEO’s daughter and reported to LEO

[@tundramom]

I know it's been a long time ago that this happened, but Roger I love you so much. I wish I had known back then and I could have given you a hug and told you that I admire you and I wish I had stood next to you and helped you to stand up to him way back then.

[@Lotustwenty7]

Proves that they care more about their image than morality and justice.

[@unusedmillstones2380]

Lately, theyv even stated this as something they are proud of

[@hellokittylovesyou]

I’ve had pedophilic encounters in my congregation. I’m glad this is all coming to light.

[@sorordymphna93]

i did too growing up. have you escaped that mud pit yet?

[@carolynaitken7632]

mar mar yes that all very well but this has become anti Mormon fodder, it’s got to be handled properly!

[@C2C99]

I'm happy that the bishop listened and came upfront about what he didnt know. I think it's time that the church came clean about everything. I hope the church does the right thing. I'm an inactive member I'm not ashamed of it. I am a thinking member and I pray and hold my own studies at home by myself. Where I dont have to hear someone blabber about nonsense.

[@thecatman4ever]

This is what the LDS church is all about cover up, cover up, cover up. This is so sad and heart breaking.

[@jaggirl]

Those animals need to rot in jail.

[@thetoast144]

My autistic daughter, and third daughter was molested by my dead father-in-law (THANK GOD) in Orem Utah. He would give her massages during her Menstrual Period she said his hands were bloody.......He used to work at the Prison as well... so HE TRIED DESPERATELY to destroy my LIFE so he could skate away (imagine a prison guard put in the same prison as a pedophile) ..... I was the whistleblower and tried to protect my daughters. He put a protective Order on me via my brainwashed ex in 2006 that is still in effect. They bought off the Judge as welll.... They called me a liar via nepotism and a smear campaign.. They called me an anti-mormon and the police and chief of police in Orem gave me the stink eye and didn't believe me and the BS increased. My autistic daughter prayed everyday for 6 months for him to die... He had a strange bump grow behind his belly button.... and he died 3 days later. Instant karma by God. After he died more truth came out.... He molested his own daughters and oldest grand daughter that commited suicide because of it last January. It is all BS.... Now iam a targeted Individual and gangstalked on a daily basis that started in 2006 instigated by the masons in the Mormon church after i blew the whistle on him. I was sooo pissed i was going to start a petition to get his wife and my ex excommunicated for covering up the lies... Because of protective order i had to swallow the whistle. At least 2 of my daughters escaped from him. It is all BULLSHIT.

[@loyalsmith4096]

I feel you buddy,well done,shame on them all,see my comment above.

[@KIM-bt7my]

🤗

[@mpsid3show427]

God bless brother stay strong

[@courtneyusmcwife5665]

This bishop seems like a good man. I hope he can help him get resolve and peace in this.

[@someonewhobitthedust9124]

Yeah but unfortunately still a puppet controlled by the corporation

[@courtneyusmcwife5665]

Brendan Clavin and it is sad but growing up in this in an extremely Mormon town. I’ve seen this happen first hand and a few people going to jail. So there can be justice. Not all people who follow this religion are bad people and can somewhat think for themselves.

[@gigig6540]

@@courtneyusmcwife5665 Just because there was one incidence of people being held accountable doesn't mean that the church is exactly open to prosecuting these acts. For everyone 1 that gets justice 10 are swept under the rug as it was in my case. no one gave a shit about an abused 13 year old in my ward, infact they told me it was my fault because I'd went through puberty and 'what was any real man supposed to think about when they're around you?' Maybe this guy will get a little more justice because he's not a girl.

[@courtneyusmcwife5665]

Gigi G I’m sorry for what happened. I was raped when I was 15 (not by an lds person) but that never got justice. Unfortunately in any environment that is the statistics now. Not just lds. It is a messed up religion run by humans but isn’t that way our governing society is? I’m not trying to downplay what happened to him at all just saying...there is some good people out there who will help and there is pieces of shit who will not.

[@gigig6540]

@@courtneyusmcwife5665 If you weren't hurt by a LDS then i don't see how you get to judge how fiercely they will protect their own under these circumstances. Don't tell me how my experience is just a statistic when you don't know the details to my story. They WILL protect their own. They feel their entire wards reputation is at stake because most of them know about some of these mens sick inclinations. Not all of them but isn't 1 per ward enough? or is there some threshold where it would suddenly matter?

[@dorianowen7852]

It doesnt matter how long ago it was, it affect us for ever, ive been in therapy for 25 yrs.

[@suigeneris2663]

That. Was. AWESOME!!! I wish some Catholics would have done this. This man put the shame squarely on the shoulders of where it belongs: THE PERP’S!!!

[@amymayne-robinson8752]

They need to be exposed for the dangerous things they have kept quiet!!

[@konnereyre7129]

As a member this bishop handed it well and every person should speak out who has gone through this and the church should do something about it

[@kkheflin3]

Thanks Mike. As always you are here to help defend these victims. To Roger... My heart breaks that you've had to carry this trauma for so long. Unfortunately high demand religions such as the LDS with no trained ministers and counselors have no clue how to handle a situation like this. The courts let you down also. All you can do is what you are doing to enlighten people and warn them. You are a brave and courageous man.

[@aldo8655]

"That he'd be responsible for his wife and children going hungry!?" Really!?!?!?! OH MY GOSH! Unveilebable; if the guy did do wrong to this man he should pay for his evil doings.

[@garrettrichards5559]

Absolutely, but the Mormon church really believes in "repentence," and stresses the importance of male breadwinners with stay-at-home wives, so they protect predators like this and don't protect the innocent victims who never deserved to be assaulted. It's disgusting.

[@aldo8655]

@@garrettrichards5559I agree, Repentance and restitution, but that is God's laws in Mormonism and Christianity (not the same thing), but the laws of men need to be enforced on this situation as well, these perverts deserve to be behind bars with Warren Jeffs and Joseph Smith Jr (if he were alive)

[@dariofelix3077]

Satanists

[@garrettrichards5559]

Absolutely correct. The Mormon church tries to adjudicate situations like this on their own without getting the law and public records involved. It helps save face. It's atrocious :(

[@abowden9650]

Thank you for coming forward!

[@MrRogerstephenson]

Welcome

[@zester4764]

Ofc this happened in Utah. I hate it here

[@richyofthewest8005]

One day, the early Mormons asked Joseph Smith " What kind of women do you like?" Joseph Smith replied: "Brigham Young!"

[@jmparsons7331]

Dude, I'm agnostic, but that was so wrong AND so funny at the same time....I was afraid to laugh because I might go to hell....and I don't even believe in that shit....LMAO!!! I ,can't....lawd ,I'm dead.hahajjjanahshahhh

[@TURK_182]

I gotta remember that one for the next time missionaries come by

[@icecreamladydriver1606]

How have things gone since this video. I do hope justice has or will be done.

[@patferrell1331]

The devils game...sexual perversions attract violence...i see this scenario ALL the time . You've been warned.

[@ih82r8]

Aaaaaaand everyone in the cult temple just sits there and says nothing. Does nothing. "Protect the cult at the cost of people's lives." - The Mormon Church

[@KIM-bt7my]

👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

[@TheDodoshwedo]

Same with the cult of Covid

[@CRASSMAN69]

i wonder if he fasted before his testimony. i, personally, wouldn't be hungry if i had to accuse a senior latter day saint of pederasty. good job Roger.

[@butterflygirl2285]

IMO - If it is true then the Mormon Church needs to investigate the accusations. Instead of trying to keep the alleged victim silent.

[@patriot4life450]

Biden supporters I swear

[@gigi1332]

Roger My sincerest heart and love are with you. May all who you love be strengthened by your courage and example. Sincerely "Gigi" 💔

[@michaelreeves1147]

Yikes. Pastor guy - whoever it was that was talking with the victim - doesn't know his citizen's law. Apologized to the victim on camera, could be construed as complicity with or even guilt of the church for the crime in a court.

[@suigeneris2663]

Wrong. That can be argued. The guy clearly has no prior knowledge of the matter. So you can just stfu.

[@gigi1332]

OMG NewName Noah Love the work you do

[@charlesroberts3650]

Here's three comments that I previously entered about a "NewNameNoah" video: "I recently turned in, after harrowing persecution and putting my life in mortal danger, some paedophiles that are progeny of Mormons in high standing. These criminals raped and tortured dozens of orphans for which they were supposed to find adoptive parents. They also sacrificed them to Satan, in a secret ceremony in the Lake Oswego, Oregon temple. The "church" has been covering it up for three years now and the Temple is still open. The FBI has already got four of the criminals and holding the remaining three at siege in a "preper" survival bunker with some hostages. When it is finally published in the news, the "church" is going to crumble and millions of Mormons are going to leave the LDS. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, the "church" is going to self-destroy and millions are going to sue it". AND: "The "church" leadership is being investigated and therefore the need for non-disclosure, it's called an "open case" and they (the FBI) cannot speak about it, and there's SEALED INDICTMENTS. I, because of the second amendment, however, have been free to inform other people who may have children missing and also warn them of the danger of other criminals as these are cyber-criminals and human traffickers. There is also the fact that the criminals still have two hostages, in a well-stocked "preper" survival underground shelter with up to five years of supplies. I have already Emailed my documents to up to 300,000 recipients warning them of the danger, including many LDS. Since I am committing no crime and I am the informant and friend of the two hostages, the leadership cannot bring charges against me because they know it's true. Although my life was in extreme danger and it was a nearly impossible task, I figured out their true identities. I saved many children through my actions and I am going to publish a book about my and my two women friends' experiences. They were slated to be sold in the human trafficking market. I stopped that". AND "The LDS' leadership has a history, from the inception of the "church", leaving a LONG trail of much more egregious acts and wicked behavior. You could watch the documentaries about Mormon problems, deceptions and lies and compare to what you are saying. The "church", it's leadership, are money grubbing, power hungry manipulators and con-men, from the beginning, through out and SPECIALLY at this time. To the leadership, these "crazy" Mormon beliefs are part of the con. And the unfortunate, rank-and-file believing Mormons are the rubes".

[@dariofelix3077]

Satanists

[@kkheflin3]

I can't find any evidence to support your claim whatsoever

[@charlesroberts3650]

@@kkheflin3 WHO ARE YOU? and WHO CARES?

[@charlesroberts3650]

@@kkheflin3 The case is still open, the authorities cannot disclose, yet. On the other hand, as long as I do not give ANY details, I can mention it. The case WILL be out in the media as soon as the rest of the culprits are gotten out and the case is closed. If you want, I'll keep your handle (name) and I'll message you. Sorry about the WHO cares, I've just woken up and I though you were one of the Mormons that usually TROLL me. I feel really sorry for the rank and file members, many of them are going to fall apart when their "church" crumbles. I pray to God that they retain their faith in Jesus Christ. I am the informant and I approve this message.

[@charlesroberts3650]

​@Jim Caponzi Evidence that YOU'RE SCARED that your belief in this FRAUD of a "church" will be dismantled very soon. When this happens, please do not lose your faith in Jesus. You apparently can't READ, it is an open investigation, they cannot disclose anything about it until it is concluded. Wait for the evidence to come. THEN come back at that time. ; ) To paraphrase Mark Twain: "Personal insults are the last refuge of the scoundrel" "The case is still open, the authorities cannot disclose, yet. On the other hand, as long as I do not give ANY details, I can mention it. The case WILL be out in the media as soon as the rest of the culprits are gotten out and the case is closed. If you want, I'll keep your handle (name) and I'll message you. Sorry about the WHO cares, I've just woken up and I though you were one of the Mormons that usually TROLL me. I feel really sorry for the rank and file members, many of them are going to fall apart when their "church" crumbles. I pray to God that they retain their faith in Jesus Christ. I am the informant and I approve this message.".

[@oliveoilchic]

Can someone please name the perp? My daughter is heavily involved in many of these productions and I want to make sure she's safe.

[@singingcowboy674]

Ma'am, (I am assuming from your screen name.) I would submit my life to Christ and Christ alone and come out of that church. I know there are a lot of upstanding, loving folks that WANT to SEEK and SERVE God the Father- never a man who walked the Earth, the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son, Jesus Christ who was with Father in the beginning and at Father's command SPOKE all that IS into existence. The universe or multiverse and EVERYTHING WITHIN IT- the Son spoke into being. And the Holy Spirit which is the third person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is the Father and the Son's KINETIC POWER that moves across the Earth filling the hearts of the born again, comforting, convicting, revealing...He Is the One on this Earth that testifies of the Christ. But they got a lot of things mixed up from Freemasonry. A lot of your "tokens" and symbols and passwords were created OUT OF Freemasonry and not anything having to do with Christ or Father or the Holy Spirit. Remember the WARNING that was issued regarding satan. He comes as an "ANGEL OF LIGHT" as well his messengers. That should give you pause as the entire Mormon doctrine is "angel driven". Moronai testified of a DIFFERENT GOSPEL than that of the apostles and disciples. Paul warned, even in his day there were people who had already gone out and added to or taken away from and they making new religions. With the outer appearance of goodness....and he said, EVEN OF HIMSELF that if he OR EVEN AN ANGEL bore A DIFFERENT GOSPEL- let him be acursed. I am afraid that you were in from conception. Grew up in it. Don't know anything else and what I just said was very upsetting. But when God reveals Himself (and I'm not God, just saying sometimes He uses people's words) it is often upsetting at first. He WILL shake us to the core to reveal there is something missing. Come out. Just like in the Catholic church. Sexual abuse is RAMPANT. I want you to see from someone who was raised in it that had a different experience than probably you have within the church. The channel is "The Other Side Of Darkness" and the young lady gives her testimony of what happened to her as she was raised in it. I'm afraid your daughter isn't safe with any exposure to the upper echelons. Or maybe even middle. Because there is TOO MUCH RISK. The odds of exposure are too high. :(

[@oliveoilchic]

@@singingcowboy674 Brother, thank you so very much for your testimony. Yes, I am a woman and was a convert at 21 years old. I was very dedicated and never wanted to leave. However 30 years, a temple marriage, and a gaggle od children, I left 5 years ago for a relationship with Jesus. The same one you testified of here, praise God! My family are all resigned now, and a few of us are saved Christians!!! The reason I was asking is because my daughter was involved in many theatrical productions in some of the same venues he has directed. I will post some of my story in another comment.

[@singingcowboy674]

@@oliveoilchic PRAISE GOD! My HEART JUMPED when you said you have already left and that you had found the AUTHENTIC Christ. Praise God! You will never know what that means. :) You know it's sometimes hard to speak the Truth. I don't know what it would be like to find out my faith was ill placed. Many GOOD HEARTS in Mormonism. I really have a heart for their passion towards who they THINK is God. I pray Father guides the rest of your family to His Heart. :) I pray for your daughter. I am a pastor and God has given me a way with them. I guess they just see Him in me. Always mortifying when one doesn't instantly want me to hold them. Lol I think it might be best, depending on her age to talk to her. Age appropriately of course. Does she or did she ever go through a headbutting or head banging phase? I know that is a symptom of it. Over flirtation with older men or a strong ADVERSITY to them are also notable as well. It's like both ends of the spectrum aren't good. I also don't know how old she is. I'm just guessing she's under 18.

[@oliveoilchic]

@@singingcowboy674 she's now in collage now. For years she's worked in these productions and comes home to work with seasonal productions. It would be good to get a name, as we can never be too careful. It's also unclear how much he may have to do with the Shakespeare festival in Cedar City which is where she is also involved in productions. Sorry, I should have been more specific in my comments. Are you s pastor in Utah ? You seem to understand a thing or two about freemasonry and how the roots run deeply to the occult. My exit out of mormonism had me needing to understand what happened to me and how I could've been sooo decieved. That curiosity led me to freemasonry, the occult, satanism, and the gnostic teachings that run rampant in religion today. We as Christians must understand what this is so as to keep it out if our churches. We are warned against all of these evil teachings in the Bible. The problem is that many are unaware of how the occult works, so when they see it, they don't know what they are looking at. Their system intentionally infiltrates the church. We must not be afraid or paranoid, but be vigilant. Ya know....be as wise a serpents and as gentle as doves. To be that wise, we must kmow what serpents know. But... never go where serpents go. Mormonism is a pernicious cult and prsise God, it's being exposed. Behind the scenes they are evil to the core. they do it with masterfully while the decieved and unknowing mormon people providing cover through their sincere good works and charity.

[@renyoung7184]

Bubble Popper I know who the peep is he was my teacher

[@DoggyKissesRule]

I love you Mike!!! Keep up the worthy fight!!!

[@gigi1332]

Mike has balls of steal and is a hero to thousands

[@psementalist]

Wow not all Mormons are bad they handled this quite professionally. Bravo excellent good job well done 🙌🙏

[@konnereyre7129]

Most of us aren’t. And the church should do something to keep these pedos our and protect the victims.

[@newone5198]

Of course. Most of them are normal people just born to, not choosing, this community

[@ladypamela8269]

I stand with you. This took courage.Gods work

[@tomaskuli177]

God allowed him to be molested???

[@dariofelix3077]

This is disgusting that they would defend a known pedophile

[@truthersunitereborn9982]

We don't. It wasn't known. It was alleged.

[@reinemazidath5466]

Why you guys just dont print posters anonymously with his whole name and picture and post if everywhere in the church so that all the memebers of the church can see it ? Or just find all the members adresses and mail the posters in theirs mails ? But do it anonymously so that he cant sue you for defamation .

[@alyssaschollenberger4516]

My thought EXACTLY

[@ResoluteDeicide]

Oh my god.... I went to that school... now I want to know who this bastard is.

[@carolinew1152]

Right on! Take your voice and scream it to the world!!! Proud of you!!!!

[@timothykramer2551]

So very sad...

[@Lotustwenty7]

You need to add subtitles

[@sharonberget5442]

Yes we need the wolves exposed to save the sheep. Brave Brother so sorry you are not with us anymore, we need people like you to fight the good fight. Yes thank you for letting the parents know.

[@sevenharrison9173]

I want to learn more about this. Can you give me more information about the abuser?

[@5zazen]

Bishop handled it correctly. He listened and didn't judge either party. Likely he will deal with it.

[@MrNirom1]

@@NewNameNoah My wife was abused by her Father. No one in the family ever said a thing. God will deal with it. No one gets to go free even though they might not get caught while upon this earth. This man should have contacted his Bishop first though. Why would someone who is a sexual predator be ignored or promoted? The only thing is there must be some sort of proof that goes along with the allegation. Otherwise there would be total chaos if every person who reported someone was immediately excommunicated. We are all innocent until proved guilty.

[@NewNameNoah]

MrNirom, bless your heart. I’d suggest you Google “McKenna Denson” and then tell me why you think LDS Inc. promoted Joseph Bishop after her raped McKenna. He referred to himself as “a sexual predator”. When you figure out why Mormon leaders promote sexual predators, get back with me, will ya?

[@MrNirom1]

@@NewNameNoah You know... not reading everything... but enough... if the "Church" or those in authority over this man knew at the time he was called to be the MTC president that he was a sexual predator... then someone should be on the hook for this. But I am not sure if they knew or didn't know. I am not one to judge unfairly. I was once accused of sexual harassment with a woman who lied so she could get money from the corporation I worked for. They gave her the money and didn't need proof. They just wanted it to go away. I had a son who at the age of 17 went to prison for 12 years for rape that he did not commit. Now with the modern day testing they can do... they finally agree that he did not do it... but nothing has changed in his parole status. He is still treated as a sexual predator. So do I trust the system? NO... I personally don't based on my experience with it. If this Mission President did it... then he should be held accountable. It is disgusting that men do this to women... but believe me... it is just as disgusting to be accused of something one didn't do.

[@MrNirom1]

@@NewNameNoah I agree... but. I think your right... but. You got a good idea... but. Which means... you don't really agree.... you don't really think their right... and you don't really think it was a good idea. What kind of "disciplinary action" does one expect? Excommunicate the man on the spot at the word of a stranger? How does one prove that the ward member did what Roger Stephenson said he did? What is this Bishop going to be able to do except what has already been done by law enforcement? Ask him if it happened. And if he says no... then what do you expect the Bishop to do? Send him to the Stake President? And when the Stake President asks him the questions and he again denies it... what do you now expect the Stake President to do? In the mouth of three witnesses... then the word of a person defending himself means nothing. But this he said - he said scenario... what are you really expecting? I do not believe that if someone acknowledges that they are a sexual predator... that they get promoted. The only way someone gets promoted if they are a sexual predator is when there is no evidence that he is a sexual predator. Just because someone says he is... does not make it true. Take your Uncle Mark Bench. Has he been found guilty of sexually abusing children? Or are there just allegations that he is sexually abusing children? If he was found guilty... and did his time in Prison... are you saying that once excommunicated... always excommunicated? What are you saying? I would really like to know what you want to happen to your uncle Mark Bench.

[@seans5289]

MrNirom: Why does god impress upon church leaders to call sexual predators into callings that give them free access to victims? Doesn’t that violate the agency of the victims?

[@cherokeeanna969]

This was talking about Jerry Elison??

[@NewNameNoah]

Sunflower 77, do you mean this Jerry Elison? caselaw.findlaw.com/ut-court-of-appeals/1870627.html

[@cherokeeanna969]

@@NewNameNoah yes, that's him!

[@cinnamondan4984]

This was done very well.

[@zachalbretsen6383]

My new church does back ground checks

[@scottybrandon5952]

Thank you for sharing.

[@patriot4life450]

Joseph Smith was sealed to ten women under that age of twenty. Four were nineteen, three were seventeen, one was sixteen, and two were fourteen. Marriages for young women sixteen and older were not uncommon in the mid-nineteenth century, but younger marriages were less common. Sexual relations are documented in several of the plural marriages between Joseph and the older seven plural wives, but there is no documentation supporting that the plural sealings to the two fourteen-year-old wives were consummated.

[@thereluctantwatchman]

There's actually a lot of evidence to suggest that leaders after Joseph lied about his involvement in polygamy. Joseph was involved in "sealing" both women AND men, but there's mounting evidence that polygamy was a creation of Brigham Young and others.

[@timlewis7218]

He was caught in bed with a child.

[@elroeelroe9006]

Good job brother

[@jonjahr3403]

I'd like to see the same People who said McKenna Densons video was a set up say the thing about this. He's saying the same thing i tried tell them about her Video and that is that by Confronting The Abuser from Pulpit during Sacrament That The Parents who didn't know about it before are now in better Positions to Protect their Kids. God Bless You for Your Bravery and Wisdom Sir!

[@daniiiakasha1436]

Sounds like they are asking him questions unbiasedly.

[@dariofelix3077]

Except they won't do anything about it

[@courtneyusmcwife5665]

You know what this man seems very genuine...I honestly think he’s going to try and help. Why would he give him his info?

[@dariofelix3077]

@@courtneyusmcwife5665 to pacify him instead of ignoring him. These false religion people are masters at deflecting issues.

[@courtneyusmcwife5665]

Dario Felix I was in this cult for over 20 years. Believe it or not there is some good people and I’ve seen things like this first hand and turned out okay for the abused. Let’s not damn them all there is good people even if what they follow for a religion isn’t correct

[@selinaogorman8380]

Leaders bishops most love to cover anything up because they want to always look good and perfect and stay in control definitely these policies need to change if not hope the church crumbles!!

[@konnereyre7129]

no

[@dorianowen7852]

If you can gind it, read paper dolls, a book of recovery in morman neiborhoods.

[@logonbump]

Or better yet, find the document, "A Blip Here And A Blip There." In it are the actual names of the perpetrators and not placeholder, fictionalized characters.

[@dorianowen7852]

Eye came forward it was dropped,

[@Mymynameis123]

that bad bishop and his wife should be ex-communicated it. they should not be in the church. it is like a fake member of the church of Jesus christ of latter-day saints.

[@wendyparfitt2189]

Oh my gosh

[@southernbawselady7092]

OMG!! 😲😲😲😲😲😲 Make 'em pay!! 💲💰💸

[@unusedmillstones2380]

Prayzzz 2 da MAN

[@wendyparfitt2189]

The church are surposed to help though in troubled

[@williamexmormon3792]

Good job dude good job Noah BITFDWT

[@NightmareDorothy]

OMG

[@gerardomartinez522]

My heart goes to this brother. Talks like that are to be given in a different place., not in front of youth and children.

[@hipponax770]

I'm sorry, the next time I find a pedofile with access to hundreds of children I WON'T go and let everyone know. Nah. Sacrament meeting is the perfect place for this. If I were a kid also being abused by a leader, and I heard this, this would give me incentive TO SPEAK OUT and GET HELP.

[@kamaropayne5226]

I’d say they’re the ones who need to hear it the most.

[@numbereightyseven]

Seeking the truth at the expense of honesty. How ironic. How messed up.

[@sarijmerrick8518]

Kids understand and know more than you think.

[@laulau5356]

No, good for him. I can’t imagine the balls it takes to do something like this. Respect.

[@Mymynameis123]

he should be talking to the stake president first. sacrament meeting isn't a place to talk about it. but I am sorry for this brother. justice needs it for who crime to this brother and foster children.

[@Susieq26754]

A sacrament meeting isn't the place?! I think it is VERY APPROPRIATE! THEY ALL NEED TO BE EXPOSED BY ALL!

[@butterflygirl2285]

IMO - This is a victim, here. Who cares where the "right place" is? Please reconsider your priorities.

[@taylorsessions4143]

​@@butterflygirl2285I disagree, I wouldn't want my second grader having questions about grooming and molestation just from going to church. I agree that justice needs to be served, but how many Innocent victims did this man just create by talking about this to a congregation of all ages? Take it to the adult Sunday school, the Priesthood body, the stake president, heck, he's an adult now, go confront him personally. But why expose minors to these concepts??

[@JustLauraThatsAll]

@@taylorsessions4143if your second grader doesnt know what molestation is, how will they know if it happens to them? If they don't know its wrong, they wont tell you if it happens. please reconsider this stance. kids need to know what a good touch and bad touch is from kindergarten forward.

[@taylorsessions4143]

@@JustLauraThatsAll please respect the role of a parent to know when it is appropriate to teach their children about sensitive matters. It's a personal topic. I know this will sound rude, but making blanket statements like "all second graders should know about ________" demonstrates a naive mindset. Should every child be aware of what to do in an earthquake and a hurricane, or is it more practical to teach them about the natural disasters that are common in their area? I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but it highlights the point that not all children are in the same circumstances and teaching things that aren't necessary might cause more stress than it's worth. A discerning parent can make that decision when it's appropriate (and still teach boundaries with their bodies).

[@warrenmurphy9620]

hi

[@warrenmurphy9620]

wow

[@warrenmurphy9620]

Thanks 🙏

[@dariofelix3077]

Satanists

[@NewNameNoah]

Dario Felix, nope. They’re just woefully misinformed and/or ignorant. Most of them are very good people. Hardly what I’d call “Satanists”.

[@dariofelix3077]

@@NewNameNoah they think they can become gods thats first lie from the garden. That is satanic doctrine. Also all the Freemasonry involved . Freemason are Satanist

[@dariofelix3077]

@@NewNameNoah you woefully misunderstand satanic doctrine.

[@NewNameNoah]

Dario Felix, 🙄

[@nicolelovesjesus6156]

I agree. Their temple rituals , their signs in their temples . All Masonic . The green robe told by their weird Satan to put on .

[@dorianowen7852]

Bullies

[@dorianowen7852]

Joeseph Smith was a pedophile, the cult is a pedophile cult. Eye was molested for most of my childhood by several of my morman neibors

[@dorianowen7852]

Eye am so sorry that happened to you.

[@icecreamladydriver1606]

@@dorianowen7852 That was a lie from the mouth of Brigham Young to justify his own sick and twisted ways.

[@ButterBiscuitGobbler]

He should've said something a long time ago.

[@katherinemontoya9829]

He did, if you would've watched the video he said he reported it and they told him he "misinterpreted his actions" and he "would be responsible for his wife and kids going hungry".

[@kdigiacomo]

SaharaStar1 - Listen up better

[@daniiiakasha1436]

SaharaStar1 He did. Too many others don’t.

[@pedaltraffic2239]

He can barely get it up, have mercy why don't you. :)

[@hannahsarkisian6471]

? Not funny :/

[@mjonasbaker1]

What's wrong with you

[@carolynaitken7632]

Pedal Traffic you are so sick!!!