What Happened in the Aftermath of Salamis? (480 BC) DOCUMENTARY

Explore the deadly Aftermath of the Battle of Salamis! Thanks to Factor75 for sponsoring today's video. Go to strms.net/InvictaFactorAprYT50 and use code POGINVICTAAPR50 for 50% off your first box!
In this history documentary we continue our Avenging Leonidas series which covers the Second Greco Persian War. We began with the Battle of Thermopylae and the Aftermath of Thermopylae which opened the flood gates for the advance of the Persian Army into Greece that ultimately culminated in the sack of Athens. In our last episode we covered the climactic Battle of Salamis in which the massive navies of both sides clashed for the fate of the war.
Now we take a moment to appreciate the human stories which took place in the hours and days of battle. This includes seeing what defeat of an individual Trireme looked like before expanding this out to look at the defeat of an entire fleet. We then look at the Greek pursuit and rescue operations that followed. And finally we explore the debris strewn site of battle itself.
Sources and Suggested Reading
Campbell, B. (ed). The Oxford Handbook of Warfare in the Classical World. Oxford University Press, USA, 2013.
Fields, N. Ancient Greek Warship. Osprey Publishing, 2007.
Herodotus & John M. Marincola & Aubrey de Salincourt. The Histories. Penguin, 2003.
Hornblower, S. The Oxford Classical Dictionary. Oxford University Press, USA, 2012.
Kinzl, K.H. (ed). A Companion to the Classical Greek World. Wiley-Blackwell, 2010.
Shepherd, W. Salamis 480 BC. Osprey Publishing, 2010.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:12 Nature of a Naval Defeat
03:43 Defeat of a Warship
08:11 Defeat of a Fleet
12:26 The Day After
15:43 Return to Salamis
17:09 Celebrations
Credits:
Research = Invicta
Script = Invicta
Narration = Invicta
Artwork = Penta Limited
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#documentary
#greek

[@InvictaHistory]

In case you missed our prior episode on the Battle of Salamis: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGizgqmGaax5aJI What aftermath stories should we cover next?

[@WarshMeh]

An aftermath story of the battle of the Siege of Syracuse-Roman Republic or Marc Antony's Disaster in the East

[@brokenbridge6316]

Nicely done video Invicta. Not many would talk about the aftermath of battles and only mentioning in passing some of the human factor. I like this series very much.

[@konstantinossalonikis2431]

I think the full story of Themistocles will be of interest to your viewers.

[@darrylviljoen6227]

Holy Crap, youtube hasn't recommended me one of your videos since before covid.

[@chubbyninja89]

Could you possibly make a video about the different types of mercenaries of the ancient world? I only ask this because I was really hoping you would've gone over some of the more notable types in your How Carthage Raised a Mercenary Army video.

[@sststr]

The book "Shattered Sword", about the battle of Midway, closes out with some anecdotes of what happened on those doomed carriers after the battle had concluded. The one that stands out in my memory best is a group of sailors trapped in the infirmary by fires in all surrounding corridors. They opened the portholes, tossed out the wounded capable of having a chance in the water, jumped out themselves, leaving behind the severely wounded, and one perfectly healthy guy who was just too big to fit through a porthole :( We obviously will never know exactly how those doomed sailors went, whether they burned to death in the fire, suffocated to death for lack of oxygen before the fires arrived, or if the one healthy guy stuck there put a knife to the wounded to end them quickly rather than endure one of the alternatives. And then you think about how many sailors were lost on those ships and you have to wonder how many of them had survived the battle but were trapped somewhere below decks having to wait for a rescue that never came... Things that rarely get talked about, or even thought about, no doubt because of how incredibly depressing the thought of it is.

[@guaporeturns9472]

As a former crab fisherman on the Bering sea I actually thought of the horrifying feeling one must have being trapped inside a dark , upside down vessel as it thumps into the ocean floor , knowing there is no help coming… ever… dark .. cold .. possibly alone or with the dead bodies of shipmates , in the dark .. cold … dark… cold 🥶

[@legoeasycompany]

@@guaporeturns9472 could ask Harrison Okene about that, unfortunately he's almost the sole exception to that experience.

[@sststr]

@@guaporeturns9472 Lots of horror stories to contemplate - the sinking of the Tresher, for example. Going down on a ship making a Murmansk run. But in cases like that, at some point if nothing else gets you before then, the hull will rupture and you will die swiftly at that point. Now think of the men trapped on the USS West Virginia, in just 40 feet of water with rescue crews crawling all over the ship. You can hear them, you tap on the hull and they can hear you. But no rescue ever comes :( Life at sea has always been dangerous and brutal, the sea is utterly unforgiving. Nothing but massive respect for those who take to the waves so the rest of us don't have to.

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@sststr Yep.. deepwater plunge and ensuing crush/implosion would be relatively “good” compared to being trapped in an air pocket on the bottom of a relatively shallow sea waiting to die. I worked on a boat that went down a few years ago.. I wasn’t on it when it sank but had worked it a few years before. Shitty deal

[@thefisherking78]

Absolutely gutwrenching

[@BTMEC_Kaustubh]

We need a video of the Battle of Platea and Mycale after this. With your production value they would be great. Also the campaigns of Spartan King Agesliaus would be great.

[@Brian-kr7bw]

yes

[@Lithoscrystals]

YES❤

[@adzsrulz]

Feels like Deja Vu lol watched this yesterday 👀

[@InvictaHistory]

yeah, I had a bit of a false start there and needed to make some slight tweaks to the video before re-release. Apoligies

[@adzsrulz]

@@InvictaHistory apologies for what? I'm just gonna watch again. Great content as always

[@54032Zepol]

Same train 🚂

[@b1laxson]

Triremes float. One of the issues often not touched on is that wood floats. Unlike steel hulls or those carry heavy armaments once a trireme is abandoned by its crew it will float. If broken in half the two halves can float. The amount of ballast on the bottom is rather slight overall as the man mass carried is all the rowers, who presumably rapidly transition to beach assault whenever possible.

[@b1laxson]

Related is like ww2 tank battles control of the area meant the winner could recover hulls and sailors far more than one driven off.

[@konstantinossalonikis2431]

Themistocles strategized to have the battle in water rather than land and he planned accordingly by studying their ships and naval might. He then went to build lighter Athenian ships and equipment plus had only archers on board as he considered speed and ship bow critical factors. The Persian ships loaded with soldiers were too slow and were hunted down by the Greeks who with a single blow at the flank and the resulting panic of the crew would do the rest. Thank you for the video.

[@zamzamazawarma928]

I love when you take us to the ground (sea) level to learn more about the actual, material realities of the ancient world (just like the cannae documentary). I find it's what's lacking the most in the media (books included): a real boots-in-the-mud account of what *actually* happened.

[@elitely6748]

Amazing video again Invicta, incredibly well made quality content every time especially the art and animations. Can't wait to see what's next!

[@mm-ir1ii]

this video gave us a better picture of ancient sea warfare than any movie or documentary as far as i know, thank you so much

[@ThePalaeontologist]

When it comes to the matter of the sharks, I would hazard a guess that there were some pretty big Great White Sharks around at this time. In times when the waters were less heavily fished and when the seas of the world were generally just that bit wilder. Large Great Whites are recorded in the Mediterranean, including the Adriatic. It is sometimes considered that the Aegean has rarer sightings of the Great White Shark, though it is also known very clearly that large adult Great White Sharks have been recorded (including making fatal human attacks) around certain parts of the Mediterranean (e.g. in places that some might not expect, like off the coast of Montenegro) 6 to 7 metre adults seem relatively common, or were at least in the last 100 years as far as I can tell. All the same, the sightings of Great White Sharks off Montenegro are apparently getting a lot rarer, perhaps due to fishing getting more intense there or something (I don't know, I'm only seeing rumours about this based on shark attack videos regarding different regions) If word of mouth on KZbin is to be believed, that would be possible. Otherwise, there could just be more of them deeper down in the water column we're just not seeing. And that would seem more likely. Great White Sharks are just fine at some very deep depths (literally thousands of feet if necessary) I think sighting figures can be misleading. There are some suggestions of Great Whites using parts of the Mediterranean to give birth in what is for them, a more sheltered place, which may be why there seem to be a diametric range of usually very large or very small Great Whites being found there. It should be said though that sightings are getting rarer and naturally, some coastal communities around the Aegean and elsewhere in the Mediterranean may not be so inclined to shout so loudly about shark sightings (for rather obvious, tourism related reasons) It seems unwise to think just because the sightings are getting rarer that there are necessarily far fewer sharks. It could be a direct correlation though I wouldn't be too sure about it either which way. It's too subjective. It could just be a run of bad luck for sightings (or perhaps we might say, from a certain point of view, a run of good luck?) I suppose that depends upon one's perspective in life. There have been big ones (very big ones) seen off Malta. It seems pretty likely that with this many warships fighting with so many wounded and/or dying combatants and so much blood going into that water, there'd inevitably be some sharks being drawn. I am wondering if the sheer noise of screeching hulls and groaning planks, the clash of steel etc, the screaming of those in the water or about to be, might have scared them off. Sharks can be quite wary and skittish. It can be easy to read into things too much, or expect hundreds of sharks to be there like it is some kind of cartoon. That said, they might have been. Who knows how wild the Mediterranean really was during the 5th Century BCE. I'd imagine it'd be quite a lot wilder today, as is heavily implied elsewhere. However, I do not think that the sounds of a dying vessel scared off the sharks from the sinking of HMS (or alternatively HMT) _Birkenhead_ in 1852, off the horribly aptly named 'Danger Point', along the Gansbaai coast of what is now South Africa. This was a troop transport ship carrying some civilians but mainly British soldiers from a number of different units. This is the original of the 'Birkenhead Drill'. Women and children first, and the courage of the soldiers. It was a harrowing ordeal for all involved, no doubt. The exact types of sharks at the scene were speculated, though I think the presence of some Great White Sharks would make plenty of sense in that region. I've heard it said that there were no Great White Sharks though I find this unlikely at best. Below is a survivor's harrowing account of the dramatic scenes and his experiences of that dreadful day: _"I remained on the wreck until she went down; the suction took me down some way, and a man got hold of my leg, but I managed to kick him off and came_ _up and struck out for some pieces of wood that were on the water and started for land, about two miles off. I was in the water about five hours, as the_ _shore was so rocky and the surf ran so high that a great many were lost trying to land. Nearly all those that took to the water without their clothes on_ _were taken by sharks; hundreds of them were all round us, and I saw men taken by them close to me, but as I was dressed (having on a flannel shirt and_ _trousers) they preferred the others. I was not in the least hurt, and am happy to say, kept my head clear; most of the officers lost their lives from losing_ _their presence of mind and trying to take money with them, and from not throwing off their coats."_ - Letter from Lieutenant J.F. Girardot, 43rd Light Infantry, to his father, 1st March 1852. Now, the tragic sinking of HMS _Birkenhead_ is thought to have involved about 638-643 people, and 9 horses, although it is impossible to know exactly how many people of different distinctions were on board, as the ship's log and muster rolls went down with the ship, now over 171 years ago. Based on the type of ship in question, it is likely that it was transporting about that many people. As far as I am aware, about 193 people survived, including all of the women and children (specifically because the British soldiers lined up on the deck and were ordered to stand to attention as the ship began to break apart, as so not to potentially swamp the lifeboat launch, upon which the women and children were put first, in one of the earliest examples of that practice in maritime history) There was what must have been a truly nightmarish 2-3 mile swim to shore and those that did not drown or die from some form of exposure, were taken by sharks. Some areas of the nearshore coast were covered in dense kelp forests, too, tangling exhausted men up in waters abound with sharks. Just how many died from which causes, is of course unknown. Like with a lot of mass shark attack stories, it's possible a lot of the attacks were on already drowned men, though if the survivor's words above are anything to go by (and I'd believe him before I'd believe a cynical, naysaying undergrad marine biologist 171 years after the fact, likely acting a little too smug about it from a place of complete safety; sorry not sorry, it's just something I've noticed with these things) then I wouldn't be so sure about that. I am not discounting or disbelieving the notion of many of those several hundred whom perished, having more likely drowned. Though again, we shall never exactly know and anyone claiming to is simply lying if they do. The odds are it was a horribly even affair, with a bit of a feeding frenzy going on, but also lots of men just drowning for lack of an ability to swim. Compulsory swimming lessons wouldn't be a thing for a very long time back in 1852 and in all fairness even at the best of times, if a ship is sinking, even those that can swim might be caught up in the whole panic and not behave how advised. S happens, so to speak. And things don't always happen how the advice booklet or guidance manual would tell you to behave in such situations. Clearly, it is a horrendous and morbid situation. 8 of the 9 horses actually made it to shore and were rumoured to have formed herds with local horses there for years to come. The one that I think drowned, had broken it's leg when it was put into the water. The British (and perhaps others) by the year 1852, had a policy by which they put the horses into the water first then gave them some distance. This was because in previous wrecks/sinking disasters, when people and horses went into the water _together_ people were dying in droves (either outright or because of being drowned while knocked unconscious) because of being kicked in the head by panicking horses swimming in front of them. Horses legs are very powerful and they do not mess around. They will try and head straight for the nearest land and good luck if you are right behind one of them. I have no idea if the horses could sense sharks in the water but it wouldn't surprise me. Whatever the case, they were either left alone or their hoof kicks may have (I speculate) _maybe_ put the sharks off? Another thing we can just never know unless we had a live camera on it underwater in 1852. Did the horses get buzzed by the sharks? Did the horses sometimes accidentally kick sharks underneath them in the nose/head, when they came to have a look at them? Or did the sharks completely ignore the larger and more dangerous horses and focus on the relatively helpless humans? Probably the latter. Who knows. Obviously the scale of the numbers of people involved at the Battle of Salamis is on an entirely different level. I know this might sound grim but the thing is, with that many human bodies going into the water it would basically be a feeding frenzy for a broad section of the marine ecosystem at that time. Crabs, small fish, all sorts, not just big sharks. I think it's almost inevitable that plenty of those men were being actively predated though probably more were just eaten as carrion. Again, this is just speculation, and we don't know if there even were any sharks there. Maybe there weren't. I just find that wildly unlikely. It makes me think about the Punic Wars and all those Roman fleets destroyed in storms, too. Grim.

[@thomasc.3832]

Another great video! It's very interesting to see the smaller details which are often overlooked, for example the fate of all the rowers

[@leemarlin9415]

Question: Would those very lightly built ships have actually sunk. Would they have not just settled somewhat in the water and drifted like a raft.

[@BountyFlamor]

Drachinifel says, In the Age of Sail, warships rarely sank even when riddled with cannon ball holes. There needed to be lots of water in the warship to counteract the natural buoyancy of wood.

[@Pouncer9000]

As lightly built you can get away with and still withstand the force of ramming. Still, with no ballast, and likely further lightened before battle with rations, water, masts and sails left on land: acceleration was life! Think of them as really big war canoes, eyewitnesses told of overturned hulls drifting.

[@manricobianchini5276]

Yes, my friend the majority of the ships would have sunk... remember: bronze and iron were part of the ships' construction. 😊

[@caniconcananas7687]

Answer: Yes. Look for news about archeologists trying to locate and, luckily, finding sunken ships. Most often they are Spanish galleons from the 17th century. After three hundred years their only remainings, beside their cargo (metal, clay, glass and other durable materials), is the ship frame, the thick strong oak ribs making the other wood planks stay together over the keel. The smaller planks could have come lose because of the pressure when sinking or, more probably, they rotted in the bottom. But in the Mediterranean Sea there have been some lucky findings from Roman times. Not war triremes, but trading ships sunk close to some ports probably because of storms. Not only the smaller planks, but also the wooden frame is also lost after more than fifteen centuries. But the way, the order their charge was located into the hold is still there, because the sea archeologists find the amphorae with their wine or olive oil in the same places where they were when the ship hit the sea bottom. Even so, if we have not been able to find any of these sunk ships, there is one thing that proves that the wooden ships, big and small alike, sank: The stories the survivors told, from Ulysses to Trafalgar. And even more, there is a discipline in History, the Experimental Archeology, where historians experiment to find the human methods or natural processes which made the things we find nowadays. For example: Carving and moving without modern machines stone blocks similar to those in the Great Pyramid, trying to build a plane like some of the ones made before and during WW1 of which no blueprints survived, or replicating a catapult to find out their effective range and destructive power. So, you can experimet building small wooden ships and trying to sink them. 🛀

[@willkiecana3413]

This makes me think of assassins creed black flag, where there’s all those ship wrecks half submerged but still floating cause of an air pocket.

[@Lochamp]

Great animations and story telling! Love the content

[@JeddieT]

This was very interesting. I often wonder what happens in the aftermath of great battles. Thanks for including this part of history.

[@MeliorIlle]

You gotta do Plataea man, it's the culmination of all these battles, the ultimate resistance of Persian rule by the Greeks and the final thrust that let Xerxes know Greece would not submit.

[@luluvar9014]

Great video man, thank you

[@DarkTemplarlord]

Great work once again keep going

[@ianbrewster8934]

Great stuff love this channel

[@PenguinofD00mxxx]

Love this series

[@robbabcock_]

Such a wonderful video!

[@zenseekerEric]

This was one of your best videos ever

[@SquirrelGrrl]

What a gripping tale of battle you’ve presented!

[@TheSharpmarksman]

fantastic content

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video it was good

[@Kvasir98]

I literally just finished reading Herodotus histories yesterday! This is perfect!

[@maxwellschmidt4498]

Amazing video

[@user-vh6gs7kn8o]

Im loving this series and its art, heres hoping we go all the way to the egyptian expeditions

[@navalencyclopedia]

Hi Invicta, nice vid and anims as always ! I just want to add some precision about naval warfare at that time. Warships did not "sank" due to their construction, 99% wood with a few fresh water purses, food amphoras and some ballast. Metal was limited to some critical parts of the construction. Even punctured after ramming they stayed afloat. Out of service, mostly submerged, but still afloat. Many were captured, as shown by the monument of actium, where the Romans presented one bronze ram for every type of ship captured after the battle. Another good evidence is the Tetrere of Marsala, the only warship wreck found so far to my knowlegde, and for a good reason, she was used a blockade runner by the Carthaginians, and so filled to the brim with amphorae like any cargo ship, of which wrecks are legion throughout the Med.

[@WarshMeh]

Excellence in story telling but I must admit. When I recently did a narration for my Art History Project I picked up some the nuances found in your speech with the pauses and style...watched a few too many videos of Invicta. I really enjoyed the video, the explanations of boarding and the trireme sinking was nicely done. Great work. What do you think of Assassins Creed Odyssey's naval battles?

[@sianefer-ptah1258]

Amazing explanation of the latter part of this historic event. I just finished Herotodus' 'History' a few days ago, and this helps with a lot of conciseness lacking in much of Herotodus, although it is still a great book ;))

[@evershumor1302]

This first half was really special

[@cainmathewson1857]

Yoooo how have I never heard of this channel?

[@ivandicivan4189]

Not just the marines but most of the ship crews during those battles were equipped for hand to hand combat, and would board enemy ship (if there was need to, which is doubtful if they punched a hole into the enemy ship which is now sinking), they also participated in land fighting (raiding and even fighting as life infantry, and fighting in sieges, this was commonly seen in Peloponesian wars, Sicilian wars, First Punic war etc). This distinction that we have today between different branches of armed forces wasn't so clear in the antiquity.

[@eggsaladsamich7396]

Can yall do a video of ancient Roman and the surrounding area. Tile. Stone masons. And marble workers?

[@exuberance3973]

There’s a few cases of rowers being replaced by a defeated ships remaining crew once boarded. I just imagine it’s like Pokemon slavery trying to get the strongest rowers on your boat

[@solocanaanite4655]

2:06 I was rolling and i literally cracked my neck when i heard “Pog”

[@thepatriot6966]

Best History Channel on KZbin.

[@srfrg9707]

The most important info was : Persians did not swim. Meaning they were bad sailors and afraid of the sea.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@cal2127 desert tribes? They lived in large urban centers

[@srfrg9707]

@@cal2127 And Cypriots as well. If I was an Ionian Greek forced to battle against Athens I would certainly do all I could to be defeated. (And my father was actually an Ionian Greek from Chios by the way).

[@salleedstrom9157]

This is perhaps my favorite battle in all of antiquity. Btw if I may ask. What sort of animation program do you use for the characters? Is it After Effects?

[@InvictaHistory]

Yes it's aftereffects

[@pyeitme508]

Wow 😳

[@DesertAres]

Thanks for a unusual video rarely seen about the aftermath of a sea battle. Wonder why Themistocles is wearing a toga? Also the battle of Cape Ecnomus between Carthage and Rome in 256 BCE is another gigantic sea battle. Wikipedia reports 680 ships (total) and 280K crew were involved.

[@manuelacosta9463]

The aftermaths of ancient naval battles where always the worst. More so since no mercy was the norm then and both sides where fighting to the end. Can imagine the fragments and wreckage that must litter that area of sea.

[@juanpablomina1346]

Is this a repost? I think I already saw this video, maybe on Friday.

[@ibonarzua2811]

This was a phenomenal video, as always. Great job. One question though, I find it difficult to believe that egiptians or phoenicians who were famous sailors knew not how to swim. I read somewhere that the explanation might have been that herodotus refered to the land infantry that crowded the persian ships that came from innland like iranians and others who were seen as loyal to Jerxes and were used to secure loyalty from ionians, egiptians and others

[@InvictaHistory]

Yeah definitely seems like some Greek propagandizing

[@randywise5241]

Has there been any underwater archeology on this?

[@TheZinmo]

I somehow doubt that the rowers would not be armed, abeit lightly. Knives, short swords... Maybe not enough to attack fully armed marines, but enough to make them think twice about slaughtering them. That makes me think that the aim of the marines was to kill the command crew, do as much damage to the ship - break the rudder, etc. - and then retreat quickly back to the own ship to attack again.

[@Lassisvulgaris]

There were 108 to 170 rowers, and the trireme was roughly 40 meters long, and 6 meters wide. It would be little space, and difficult to come topside. I guess you're right about the hit and run tactic. As mentioned, a damaged or sinking ship was of no battle value....

[@Russia-bullies]

As aftermaths are hardly featured,pls.,feature them.

[@cald1421]

9:33 It’s a fascinating idea but I highly doubt sharks or sea creatures went anywhere near all that racket of battle. More likely some came after the battle was over to scavenge the remains when it was quiet and most living humans were gone.

[@Cuccos19]

Supervisor to the rowers: - I have a good news and a bad news. - What is the good news? - Today double rations for everyone. - And the bad news? - The captain wanna waterskiing...

[@troopieeeeee]

what was the image of Constantinople used in “Units of History - The Varangian Guard” @ 22:22 minute mark?

[@InvictaHistory]

From the artist Rocio Espin

[@troopieeeeee]

@@InvictaHistory thank you! amazing artwork

[@pellman87]

7:33 Dead guy in the water: am I a joke to you?

[@georgeelder8415]

Interestingly, there's no mention of the use of Greek Fire... Was this technology not used to great effect?

[@learsitiger9990]

5:01 you mean "No Man's Water"

[@joselitostotomas8114]

Meeting of the admirals to determine who gets the prize for contributing the most to the battle - 1st Vote - Himself 2nd Vote - Themistocles Was it by secret ballot where you place first choice then second choice? So no one won the prize?

[@jaya5920]

ancient world was so cool but so brutal

[@TeamUnscripted]

You know how your fall of Jerusalem video has received much praise? Many Bible scholars see the fall of Jerusalem played out symbolically in the Book of Revelation. I would suggest that it would be awesome and beneficial for you to make a video covering this topic. The interpretation style is called Post-Millennial Partial Preterism scholarship view of Revelation. Essentially it sees the sacrifice of the animals in the holy sanctuary as fulfilling the abomination of desolation along with other symbols. Perhaps the video would be a walk though timeline of the siege of Jerusalem and how symbols in revelation can be seen in it.

[@joeshmoe8345]

All y’all deserve a pat on the back. God bless ya.

[@JayRappa]

The brutality of war is not unique to any time period of humanity. I often wonder if we will ever see a world without violent conflict.

[@nvmtt1403]

deja vu i have been in this place before, higher on the sea and I know its my time to swim........

[@dannyalex5866]

Hail the victorious dead! Greetings from Sparta

[@mattatuckmanful]

Sharks are very very rare around Greece, im sure very few if any marines got eaten that day.

[@bassamalfayeed1384]

Didn't this get released yesterday?

[@InvictaHistory]

preemptively by accident, had to make some minor tweaks. The release is now official : )

[@stayhungry1503]

interesting that a factor of this battle seems to have been the greeks being able to swim to the shore and the persians not (according to greek sources).

[@dimitrialexakhs]

Great video but these corvus boarding animations are anachronistic and definitely not period-accurate (as well some pieces of equipement that look like something out of a fantasy film) and sharks are quite rare in Greece and most of them are small in size.

[@apmoy70]

Yeah, sharks in the Saronic gulf are non-existent, sharks live mostly in the colder northern Aegean waters and are mostly basker or thresher sharks which are harmless

[@mrscanlan.5016]

Great video, The battle of Plataea next ????

[@ytj17thjuggalo12]

Great video Invicta. I'd watched this yesterday when it had got released haha.. My own opinion here, I really woulda preferred to see the action from the Greek side of the ships. Just because In history, they're generally portrayed as what ya could consider the "good guys". Just a nit pick man. Have been watching for years, love your content and the quality is 👌

[@boris978]

Well, they were neither the good guys, nor were they only greeks in the battle. Persian fleet consisted largely of Phoenician and Greek crews, with potentially Egyptian marines and some Persian crews here and there.

[@ytj17thjuggalo12]

@@boris978 ahhh see whatcha sayin, I meant I'd have preferred to see the Athenian/Allied side of the battle. But totally right, my view is definitely based upon my western view of history

[@JeansiByxan]

I know what happened in the aftermath of the Salami-sandwich I ate, that’s for sure.

[@HYEOL]

Good Video but the audio quality was quite low quality in my opinion.

[@juliahart8593]

I was gonna say the visuals and audio didn't seem like it belonged to the same video. Good content otherwise

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Why is a food delivery company called "Factor"? :S Weird name for a food company, imo Ham on Demand would be a fun name. "We serve frozen sliced ham, but we also serve many other things too".

[@Mrkabrat]

It's ironic that Themistocles would end up in the persian court when the Peloponnese War began

[@ibDirtyGlasses]

I read Salamis as the food 😂

[@ytj17thjuggalo12]

Salami's 🤣

[@b1laxson]

King Xerxes got his hopes choked by the Greek Salamis

[@CAARaeed]

How big was a trireme?

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Excavations estimate roughly 40 meters long and 6 meters wide, with acrew of 108 to 170.

[@CAARaeed]

@@Lassisvulgaris Thanks :)

[@LordWyatt]

Was Themistocles a descendant of Odysseus😅

[@mistersandwich0034]

man those jacked athenians and spartan didn’t let thermopylae slide 💀

[@m8tty711]

To my understanding the Greeks had suppior ships. They baited the enemy into a trap where the high numbers count for nothing

[@raethdarkflame1292]

After a battle of salamis I expect the next logical action would be to make some sandwiches. 😋

[@kylarshook9692]

Imagine all the now extinct ocean creatures that came to eat them 👀

[@lordmanatee439]

Sharks: "there are some weird turtles"

[@cvoudaskc1852]

⚡️🇬🇷⚡️

[@average_warspite_enjoyer]

Salamis does not have sharks i have gone swimming there thats how i know

[@Feyser1970]

Sparta just look for excuses not to fight every time,while Athens actually saves Greece , every time.

[@georgepapatheofilou6118]

In the naval battles and land battles , there was Hellas vs Hellas . Some served the greatest empire of its day and age and others that fought for their freedom. Have things changed much in todays modern day and age . Think about it .

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

What happened? The bodies became salami for fish.

[@raisingbarssince1978]

I love a good pizza salamis

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

At a guess, what happened was that local sharks and mackerel got fat?

[@harraldschmitt9113]

Easy, after seeing all the carnage a local butcher was inspired to create a new sausage. he called it salami and the rest was history

[@snax_4820]

I do not understand how wooden ships can sink.

[@schroedingersdog7965]

In a word - ballast. Wooden ships normally carry stone ballast to remain upright and stable, and the mass of this ballast is almost always greater than the buoyancy of the wood used in the ship's construction. Thus, when seawater enters a breach in the hull, the ship becomes flooded and the ballast drags the ship under. (Paradoxically, a really badly damaged ship - one cut in half, for example - will "dump" it's ballast and remain afloat but inverted.)

[@hamburgaler6123]

Woof, that sponsor good looks rough man. It's just microwave dinners shipped to your house. Yikes.

[@patrickb1303]

So it happened just like the 300 sequel showed it? I knew it. It seemed so historically accurate.

[@pandoraeeris7860]

Cheese and crackers?

[@BountyFlamor]

So why didn't they arm the rowers when close combat ensues? Seems like a waste. Were they slaves?

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Don't know about Greece and Persia, but in later wars, rowers were condemned prisioners, and therefore not armed. One example is the Battle of Lepanto.....

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Must correct mysel. In ancient Hellas, mainly free men were used as rowers, normally 108 to 170 men. The trimes were about 40 meters long, and 6 meters wide. Space would probably be too small for all to fight. It would be difficult to go topside, and weight of weapons and armour would have been to heavy. Just a guess, but maybe plausible....

[@null090909]

What a horrifying sponsor 😢

[@christianrobinson1761]

All I know is my tater itches

[@matthewdekorte373]

yeah i lot of fish got fed well

[@mimmosieni6593]

After Salamis, prosciuttis arrived

[@beepboop204]

😀

[@frankenschande]

Im from Denmark

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Skål.