What Happened to Amazon Basics Guitar Pedals?!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Hit that thumbs up and let me know what you think about these Amazon pedals! NEW LINKS TO GET THEM! Distortion amzn.to/3u4bnKw Overdrive amzn.to/2NtrFvI Comp amzn.to/2OzEuoH Looper amzn.to/3qvWizd Delay amzn.to/2LWbw1o Booster amzn.to/3djHiRf

[@SteveSterlacci]

Idk i upset people by letting it ring and try to tweak and hear the pedal 🤣😅

[@Metalbass10000]

I've seen several "boutique delay pedals with the tap tempo function. The G chord thing may be a reference to a lawsuit determining that using a VERY, VERY, simple chord progression employed in one song was somehow plagiarism

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@Metalbass10000 nah, they were just trolling my comments because they wanted me to do more dweedly doodlies. I can't hear the pedal as well doing that!

[@cheapskate8656]

Me: Hey Amazon my delay pedal has not arrived yet? Amazon: Its a delay pedal.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Classic!

[@thatguyineverycommentssection]

Me, slightly quieter: Hey Amazon my delay pedal has not arrived yet? Amazon, slightly quieter: Its a delay pedal.

[@mica_micasa]

😄👍🏻

[@bruceclement]

I noticed this at NAMM a few years ago - there were lots of pedals from different brands with the same control set and enclosure layout, obviously all made in the same factory. If you buy a thousand units, they'll put *your* name on it.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Makes total sense. They're not bad circuits in the right application. Not exactly life changing

[@NovacomNZ]

I would (and will) buy these pedals in a heartbeat. The price of pedals is ridiculous given the parts involved and calling something 'boutique' is just a way of justifying being ripped off by gaining some sonic quality that just is in the imagination.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Starting to agree with this more and more!

[@ttexas1963]

I agree with you. I've had an OCD pedal. I bought a 15 dollar saphue ultimate drive that is extremely close. It bothers me a little buying a pedal from a company in China, but I wonder if it bothers some pedal makers for selling pedals with the same "guts" for nearly ten times the amount.

[@SteveSterlacci]

With said parts being sourced China (most likely) !

[@Fausto_4841]

For real. A circuit is a circuit.

[@makingtechsense126]

I think what happened was that Chinese manufacturers that were looking for business started making reference designs to show off their capabilities and at some point customers started buying reference designs with almost no changes. So now nearly all contract manufacturers in China have a catalog of reference designs that their customers can choose from and the customers simply slap their brand onto it. That is why Amazon is flooded with the same products that have many different brand names. And as you noted, Amazon does the same thing with a lot of their Basics line.

[@cliffords2315]

I hate to admit it, but 10 years later im finding made in china, vietnam, malasia, Indonesia, are still working and working well.

[@kidritalin1]

Thanks Steve. You actually did the homework for me as I was watching the initial review video. We all know almost everything inexpensive circles back to a common manufacture with companies spec'ing paint schemes for enclosures. What I find endearing about your videos is that you explain, what I call "musician secret language" that's taken me a few years to decipher. Thanks again!

[@SteveSterlacci]

I really appreciate that! Thanks for listening so close

[@bullhunter45]

I worked at Amazon in Seller Support. It was very common that if a seller had a good selling item, Amazon would copy it and go after their market. Very scum baggy indeed!!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Are they sending R and D people to copy it? Or just buying in bulk for steep discounts and rebranding at a lower price? Either way sucks, but genuinely curious

[@bullhunter45]

@@SteveSterlacci Buying in bulk and then if it is popular, making it themselves. I was so happy to get away from that place!

[@galelongputt]

It is one of the things Amazon is known for. Rebranding existing products, Selling it for less in an attempt to crush the little guy.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Yep. In this field there are a lot of cheap rebrands.

[@sierratrey]

@@SteveSterlacci so featuring them on KZbin sounds like a good way to promote the behavior. I guess. I like your content but have extreme bias when it comes to original rights and trademark laws.

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@sierratrey if anyone has the evidence of copyright infringement of these I am definitely opposed to it..boutique builders all have "their take" on the old original designs to the point where no one even knows what those original designs were. I'm just here to demo products. I am no advocate for copying stuff. They buy in bulk and rebrand, they have the right to do so as crappy as it is

[@sierratrey]

@@SteveSterlacci for the record this is not an accusation but I have to ask, do you honestly think there’s no evidence of copyright infringement? Also I’d argue by demo/showcasing these pedals you are advocating purchasing the knock-offs; or at the very least condoning it. How is rebranding legal? In fact without the registered owner’s permission it’s very much illegal. If you designed, developed and worked on something then Registered TM etc; only to find out someone used the same exact specs. They used the same colors and I’m not an electrician but the wiring would have to be similar at least. And sold it for pennies on the dollar? I’d be willing to bet rebranding would look a whole lot different to you. Again, I’m a fan of your channel. You do great work with your videos. This is just not one of them. Forgive my opinion. It in know way is meant to be an attack of your character.

[@SteveSterlacci]

I left out a key word of licensing before. I would hope, and assume, that any of the rebranded companies are paying for the license to do so. When they buy in bulk, that would usually come with permission to brand and market as they see fit. No one at amazon is out here making pedals. There are plenty of sites that offer the service. Look at Martys Swarzinator or whatever it is. Hes doing the same thing but with his own name. And hes making money off the video AND sales lol I just made a video that apparently a lot of people are interested in. This videos made me a lot of ad revenue, 250k views on it has brought me almost 2k new subs. You don't get upset your favorite actor taking a role you don't like, right? Lol I appreciate you liking the content. I do wish the same enthusiasm was shown on my other videos as well

[@jakob411]

Thank you for reviewing the Amazon basics pedals. I'm trying to get into playing but I can never get the sound right, but both of your videos were a good watch and your playing sounds great.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks so much! Glad to help where I can. Best of luck with your playing too!

[@grayaj23]

I really don't understand stuff like "don't play blues with a distortion pedal, that's not what it's for". If it sounds good, it IS good.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thats a hard concept for some to grasp! I agree with ya

[@YTSlide]

What they meant to say was "don't play classical music with a distortion pedal". But then again, if it sounds good.....

[@alphanumeric1529]

The Blues with a distortion pedal is what Rock is. People are stupid.

[@granvillefriel4330]

The tone you get with that Les Paul is Awesome... Norlin era Customs have some kind of a special sauce ..

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks ! So many people write off norlins!

[@johnro6659]

Thanks for letting me know there was a follow up. I am not surprised it's like how Cort makes tons of guitars for a ton of different brands. I am fairly new to NUX recently got their Mighty Lite BT 3W Mini Combo Amp on a deal of the day for 60 bucks. I was amazed with it it's a great little take anywhere amp. Can be plugged in or battery powered is blutooth ready so you can control it with your phone. I have a ton of pedals already not much I need but i am going to check out a few that I might find useful from either of these companies.

[@bvaladez74]

I have the NUX Oceanic reverb mini that I took a chance on, just based on size. It's pretty solid. No complaints.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Man those look really cool! Was checking one out as well

[@RandyFricke]

Speaking of budget pedals, the Mosky CE Nano Chorus is fantastic. Quiet switch. No jump in volume when engaging. Sounds like a vintage BOSS chorus. The Rowin Flanger same thing. $30 pedal sounds great. Quiet switch. Play nice with the other pedals.

[@SteveSterlacci]

I've heard a lot of good things about them!

[@JackFossett]

I was wondering this too. I didn’t see them listed anymore.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Same pedals, diff brand! Interesting stuff

[@binshuo]

@@SteveSterlacci It's called OEM. Nothing new

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@binshuo thanks

[@VisboerAnton]

I'm gonna subscribe because you read the comments, lol

[@SteveSterlacci]

Its a gift and a curse 🤣😅. Nothing brings the confidence down like reading through these gems! Luckily, most of y'all are good and cool people 😎

[@andrewwallace1729]

Nice video. I think the pedals sound great. I've also seen a brand of pedals called Twinote ... and the small format versions of their Ana Delay and Tube Overdrive pedals also look remarkably similar to the Amazon/NUX/Koko pedals. The Amazon pedals are listed as either unavailable or temporarily out of stock here in the UK, except the Delay and Looper pedals which are apparently not released over here yet.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Nice addition to the list! Will look into twinote. I guess because they're a bit more expensive, people passed on them 🤔🤔🤔

[@andrewwallace1729]

@@SteveSterlacci Could be. Although, they still appear to be rather cheep via Amazon over here: £21.99 for the OD pedal and £33.90 for the delay 😊

[@SteveSterlacci]

Nice! The delay is $45 here

[@pitfrr]

I did find the Koko pedal on Amazon France, but only the distortion (and I'm lucky, it was the only one I wanted. The OD was good too, but I have the real one, the Tube Screamer). Thx to you, Steve, I'll play the NU>X distortion (I knew the brand, and I know they do pretty good stuff I'm interested in. Saw that on a channel from Singapore where the guy tries a lot of NU>X products they send him). Thank you once again, Steve. I'll subscribe for your help.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thank you! I appreciate the support.

[@YTSlide]

One man's perspective. I'm a tightwad, but love guitar effects. Many years ago I bought a DigiTech RP200 multi-effects pedal. Thought it was more cost effective than buying 50-60 pedals, since my kids were talking about college. I enjoy the hell out of monkeying around with the thing, even while knowing it's probably not what Eric Johnson uses to get his tone. It takes one plug-in, have something like 12 various amps models, a few different drum beats, and something like 28 different effects, and a tuner. The footprint is about the size of a shoebox. I am pretty confident the quality of the effects is nowhere near what you can get in a single-use pedal, probably even the cheapo ones. But it suits my needs. I'd be interested to hear from "serious" guitar folks why these types of multi-effects pedals are frowned upon...although I read that Weezer uses a Line 6 multi pedal.

[@SteveSterlacci]

My main rig is a Line 6 Helix. I use it more than any piece of gear in my professional life. Pedals are toys and snacks to be temporarily enjoyed for me lol

[@ThomasHope73]

Line 6 make some very desirable expensive top end gear, so… it’s not the brand that matters, it’s the specific product and price that will make a difference.

[@patrickwilliams2470]

a year later, im looking into these pedals. they are back in stock. Im building my first pedal board on a budget to learn with.

[@SteveSterlacci]

They will be great for that

[@michael.folsom]

AmazonBasics branded: in another month, they'll be selling like Klons and going for $1000 apiece on Reverb. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SteveSterlacci]

Dude imagine ?! 🤔😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣 part of me wants to keep them just bc they're not available

[@DonnieFreymoyer]

Amazon pedals are going to be worth a $1,000 and gamestop is going to the moon, anything else. 😒

[@SteveSterlacci]

I will sell them to you if youd like

[@YTSlide]

More like, rebranded as Clon(e)s. Trying to picture the meeting at Amazon where someone said "I've got an idea I'd like to run up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it. To generate more revenue, why don't we sell these cheapo Made in China guitar pedals and take revenue from companies trying to sell their products on our site?"

[@RandyFricke]

I've put together 14 pedal boards with anywhere fro 10 to 15 of these "budget" pedals on each. I love them! They're awesome pedals. You get a dead one now and then but Amazon's return policy make refunding or replacement a breeze. I have several KOKKO pedals, Rowin, VSN, MOSKY, Satone, Azor, which are rebranded Caline pedals as I understand it. They are all pretty much identical circuits. I have that red distortion with the KOKKO name on it. It's a great sounding distortion. Nicely scooped. Plenty of gain on tap. Brutal. The most expensive pedal I have is a Carl Martin Plexitone which is a killer pedal too of course.

[@trap6566]

Heh! You’re at 7k subs somehow, should be more with this quality. How long you been playin for? Im a beginner myself, bout one year since I bought my electric (yamaha eg112c, what do you think fo pr a beginner?), what sort of things do you think I/you can do with an overdrive pedal? I have the KOKKO overdrive but have no idea what to do with it, can I play lead with it or something? I dont know hahaha! I have a yamaha ga-15 amp and the distortion on it is somewhat sensitive, so I bought this one, thoughts and what I could do with it? Sorry for long message, just interested, Keep it up! +1 Subscriber

[@SteveSterlacci]

Hey Trap thank you! That means a lot. I started late at age 20, so just about 10 years into playing. An overdrive can do whatever you want it to do based on the application and style of OD it is. It can be a rhythm sound, or a lead sound depending on how it is set. Dont get so caught up "how to" and just twist some knobs until you find something you love. If it sounds good, it is good! Good idea for a video though

[@arnoldpaine6143]

I ordered a Amazon Basics DISTORTION pedal a week or so ago. What came in the mail is a KoKo branded one that acts more like a BOOST than a DISTORTION pedal.

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

KZbin: Blues is not supposed to be played with distortion. Jimi Hendrix: Laughs in your faces.

[@tonymelendez9295]

Thanks for the vid Steve. I've always been just a guitar and amp guy. I have tried some of the modeling processors in the past, but even though they offer a lot of tones, usually they don't have good distortion, the chorus effects aren't that great, the reverbs are kinda lame, the list of issues goes on. The newer Helix, Headrush, and Kemper stuff seems cool, but the price is over the top even for the scaled down stuff like the three button Stomp models. These low cost spedals seem like a great option for some body liked me to get introduced to using pedals. There are so many pedals out there. These cheap... no, let me say more affordable pedals do seem to do a great job. Your excellent playing also demonstrated that the ability of the pedal to produce a pleasing tone is definitely available in these pedals. I also understand that some pedals are very expensive and some players have invested heavily in their pedal arrays. I, however, lack expertise with the instrument and experience with pedals period. It just doesn't make sense at my ability level to spend obscene amounts of money to get a distinct sound. I probably wouldn't be able to produce the tone I was hunting regardless of how expensive the equipment. Also, I appreciate the simplicity of these pedals. I have had great difficulty learning what little I know about playing the guitar and don't wish to spend a lot of time learning the nuances of complicated effect pedals. So Steve once again thanks. Now I have an idea how my first pedal board is going to look.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Its honestly always simple that works best! I started using the multi fx because of overseas traveling without an amp. In that case, the multi fx become the simpler! Lol

[@cheapskate8656]

I know this is a bit old now but check out brands Ammoon and Donner. Same pedals?

[@SteveSterlacci]

Donner i believe is different. Nu X definitely the same though

[@randallcunninghamjr.9270]

Thanks! I just bought the Distortion pedal on Amazon by KOKKO

[@SteveSterlacci]

Hope you dig!

[@BassBaseBerlin]

Well ... I think these sound really great! The cirtuits are no rocket science - so like that they produce these simple and good priced analog pedals. Thanks for the video! And I like _what_ you played ... and from my POV - you can play blues with an ESP thru a distortion or metal riffs on a tele ... sometimes it's fun to do "not the mainstream concepts" ... so keep going, I need to leave ... to watch your HX stomp video now ;-) Thanks!!!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks so much! That really means a lot. Hope you enjoy it 😉🙃

[@Bumper83lilone]

I really want to buy some pedals for my guitar.... what are the first 5 I should buy?

[@SteveSterlacci]

I would get the ones you need for your style of music. It depends what you want to sound like. These cheap brands are great to sample stuff and try things out.

[@Bumper83lilone]

@@SteveSterlacci thanks

[@SteveSterlacci]

Amy time! Hope to have earned your sub

[@Bumper83lilone]

@@SteveSterlacci done!

[@davidwilson7042]

Those pedals sound pretty good. Doesn't hurt that you've got a good touch on the guitar, or that you've both a nice Tele and a nice Les Paul. ;)

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks David! Much appreciated 🙏

[@TheFarout69]

I play on stages and the thought of an Amazon pedal on my board makes me consider reliability. But they do sound nice new.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Same here!

[@christianreimnitz8224]

What about the power source for those pedals? How you power them? They are 300ma inputs but all the multiple power output box on Amazon are mostly 100ma output.... The only 300ma outputs I found was the Mosky iso-10..….

[@SteveSterlacci]

Truetone cs6

[@joncooperphotograph]

Your tele looks just like mine. H/S w wcr pick ups Dark Burst neck 1952 sc in the bridge .. Playing thru a 1954 silvertone 1335 25 wt rms w a reverb tank added ... 59 jensen 15" Perfect

[@SteveSterlacci]

Goood taste!!

[@galelongputt]

It's OK I have the HELIX. I don't need no stinking Amazon basics pedals! LOL. Merry Christmas to you and yours Steve.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks gale! I appreciate you still hanging around the non helix videos,!

[@galelongputt]

@@SteveSterlacci Good content is good content. Good people are good people. I'm striving to be better. I try to surround myself with the same.

[@damienhegedus8973]

Great video... wondering if you noticed anything that sounded like frequency cuts coming from them? The screamer sounds like it might have a low cut or a high boost going on

[@SteveSterlacci]

It probably has a low cut on there, but not sure

[@robrichmond6171]

I had good luck with Donner minis.....Twinote fuzz pi is great for price

[@OldWillys]

Dude!! I just found you! I like your attitude, i like your presentation and i like your playing!! I subscribed and hit the bell. Rock on brother!! Ps love love love that LP and the wicked sounding music. You can play more G chords. I love my g chords too!!

[@OldWillys]

Ps. I really like those pedals.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks brian! Means a lot and welcome aboard 😊🤘🤘🤘

[@crazywisdom2]

Great vid. Looking for a mini pedal to OD, really drive my Tele for Rock / Metal. Any reccomendations ? Thx !

[@SteveSterlacci]

So many options out there! The crunch box copies are good for that type of thing!

[@IAMElectric369]

Well, the Paul took them to the next level. I’d buy em all. I like the compact size.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Theyre not bad at all!

[@IAMElectric369]

@@SteveSterlacci I just got a looper under the brand name Afuaim. Same stuff. Pretty amazing it’s so inexpensive. I’ve been playing for 40 years and these are just as good as any base model brand name stuff. Just can’t use a battery which I don’t anyway unless I’m recording.

[@JessicaLynnCountry]

Great vid Steve!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks!

[@psychohada-bob8008]

Nice video Steve, and nice shirt!😉

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks bob!

[@Ratchman_5000]

Up next from Amazon- Germanium fuzz and a distortion with black goop inside! 😆

[@SteveSterlacci]

Could be work $5k one day!

[@nick.raptis]

My guitar teacher, tech and holder of best tone in town award, swears by the Nux modeler, MG-300. Me, I got an hx stomp so I can enjoy your videos more!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Interesting! May be worth checking out. Will be tough to beat the hx long term though! I appreciate you watching. Thank-you!

[@nick.raptis]

@@SteveSterlacci the long term is really why I bought the hx stomp. A combination of continued support, large community and finding a sixth of the price deal. Still, I knew hx would be a journey to get it to sound good, esp cause I haven't done an amp and pedal journey to know what to aim for. It really doesn't sound as good as it can out of the box. The teacher on the other hand is a utilitarian first. He can get his tone out of almost everything, so a cheap good modeler which I think has IR loading and he doesn't need to gig with is a great fit for his home recording needs. It is a good tool for him. Cheers from Greece!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Hello from NY! At the end of the day, what sounds good, is good. Less tweaking and more practice!

[@nick.raptis]

@@SteveSterlacci Amen. I just got my first basic preset down now, and planning to get the most playing out of it before tweeking further :)

[@SteveSterlacci]

Best way to do it! Now you just turn it on and go play

[@CraigRMerriman]

Cool! Some of the cheap stuff isn't too bad. Definitely interesting to see how their trying to keep up with the demand. Thank you Steve!

[@SteveSterlacci]

They're really stepping up the game for sure! Pushing the bigger companies to come down some in price mayb? Idk ! Seems like a different audience

[@CraigRMerriman]

@@SteveSterlacci It is a different audience to some degree. I have a lot of pedals, but I've often asked... does it really matter if I have a DD-7 or a higher end delay? If I'm playing a club, who really is gonna notice. Aside from the 1 guitar sitting at the bar with their arms folded across their chest? If you're playing the song mostly right and it sounds okay.... Maybe a little different when you're playing your own stuff.

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@CraigRMerriman totally agree! I unfortunately sound the same regardless of rig 😁😅😅😅

[@CraigRMerriman]

@@SteveSterlacci 🤣 Yeah, I'm in that camp. Not a bad thing, they call it style, right?

[@SteveSterlacci]

Yep! And proves all this nonsense is in our heads 🤣😒

[@TheRichardHartog]

Thanks for the info Steve!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@dottiecasey7050]

Kokko actually is in the same factory as nux, amazon paid nux to create a pedal with their branding on it. So it is basically a nux peddle, and looks identical to a kokko because they are all linked

[@SteveSterlacci]

Its more they all just bought the same generic nux pedals and put their brand on it

[@sdorn963]

Wonder if the small music store down my street carries the other brands. Lol

[@SteveSterlacci]

I'm sure they're gonna have some good ones!

[@kevinr.3542]

Most music stores around me are stuck in the stone ages with their pedal selection. None of the cool new innovative ones. And especially no cheap, budget brands like nux, joyo, etc. They just want to charge you $200 for the same pedals they've had since 1999. Tubescreamer, ratt, vox wah, digitech whammy, big muff for bass,.etc. Boring

[@michaelolz]

“These are guitar pedals and I use them when playing guitar.” - some guitar player

[@SteveSterlacci]

I've heard

[@CuaxB]

That '79 LP Custom is my dream guitar. One day I will own one, I hope.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks Clint! I've only spotted 2 others since i owned this one. They're like unicorns!

[@jeffreydooley3745]

Many Chinese pedal manufacturers offer "OEM" services. They will rebrand their pedals for anyone who desires them, usually at very little to no cost at all. Go to Alibaba and serach OEM guitar effects. You can have our own line of guitar effects with your own anme on the pedals.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Yep! I don't think anyones getting ripped off in this type of deal

Is the quality control ok with these cheap pedals? How consistent are two of the same pedals?

[@SteveSterlacci]

No idea. Can only speak to mine and I only have 1 of each

[@MrAdamgw1]

These are very sweet must have gear for every guitar player beginner. Best bang for your buck! When you turn into an Eric Clapton then start upgrading on those Boss pedals. But for casual players these are awesome!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Agreed! Great value for learning

[@DougMen1]

They can be found with the Kokko name too

[@SteveSterlacci]

Yep. I did a follow up video on it. Check the pinned comment

[@philmorbey1827]

You may have seen these but Behringer pedals are basically boss and are great value!

[@SteveSterlacci]

I am familiar but haven't tried yet! May be the next one

[@MrSongwriter2]

Absolutely not boss, they’re plasticky and so noisy. Good for money I had one or two but sold them all

[@philmorbey1827]

@@MrSongwriter2 check the info online oarticularly jhs pedals who compares them to the originals. They mimic boss and others circuitry. Yes they have hard plastic cases but the hyper fuzz is awesome. I realise when the world ends the only thing left will be cockroaches and Boss pedals but £20 ain't bad for these

[@MrSongwriter2]

@@philmorbey1827 maybe, I’m coming from an era where all my boss pedals were original Japanese ones. I px some and sold others to other guitar playing mates to buy a korg A4 multi fx as it was so much easier for gigging to have a multi fx unit with patches and then I went line 6 pod and now I’m back full circle where I remember those Boss pedals being £30 and see what they go for used and wished I’d keep them along with my Dod pedals. Probably the new Chinese boss are built with similar circuits, to the behringer but I just couldn’t cope with the extra noise from the behringer pedals. Still good value although I prefer the joyo Ironman mini pedals they’re a big improvement especially the husky drive their chorus reverb and blue rain overdrive

[@kenadams5366]

Interesting stuff going on here! They sound great regardless 😊

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks Ken!

[@timjmoran]

Damn !! I have to admit these sound pretty damn good, esp considering how cheap they are....shame it looks as tho you cannot get them anymore from Amazon( aside from the Delay pedal, that is..) BUT as the Gear Godz guy pointed out on another post, the Kokko and NUX pedals seems damn near identical !!( if not the same pedal !!) If I needed some pedals and had a pretty tight budget, I would not hesitate to grab a couple of these ..Nice Demo, Steve !!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks! Check out my follow up in the pinned comment. You can still get them under a diff brand. Hope to have earned your sub!

[@azzuro195]

You are pure gold man.. arround 8:45 "I'll stop playing G chord" .. Then rips cool Emin penta licks, which is ofcourse G again hahaha after that shows us GIBSON Custom 79 BEAST apologizing hahaha - is that a dropD tuning on LP? - love that deep barking .. PS Anyhow, nice vid thumbs up for playing, info and guitar humor. PPS I am also armed with cheap KOKKO pedals, love every one of them, highly recommend looper, delay and tube screamer.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks so much! I appreciate you noticing 🤣🤣🤣

[@SteveSterlacci]

And yes, i go to drop d because it has to be metal-er

[@azzuro195]

@@SteveSterlacci sounds awesome

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

NUX, Mooer, Moen, Joyo and Caline make most of the pedals. In the West we have this illusion of lot of small factories throwing things together with a nearly literate staff etc. The truth is thousands of companies are cutting edge high tech. Hi tech makes things cheap ...cheap overhead which China has like tax, transportation costs, heat, electricity etc takes it from cheap to silly cheap. Mooer make 2000 pedals a day ...and it is usually a single model. The products are designed to fit in the same box and they are only pre drilled for a handful of choices. Reliability is BIG! The parts may not be gourmet spec but their failure rate is nano!

[@SteveSterlacci]

For sure! Def curious how they will hold up

[@jeffc4862]

I bought a Mooer "Modfactory" because it was inexpensive, and looked fun. I've had it for two years now, and its been my 'go to' for trippy modulation effects, and I've used it for both guitar, and keyboards - having it, hearing how it sounds, and what it does has seriously led me to question the whole 'boutique' culture, which is so incredibly blown out with products now that it's just expensive, and confusing... Just last week, I was comparing the EHX "Torn Speaker" and the DOD Carcossa (both under 100.00) against a batch of Boutiques ranging from 150.00 to 250.00, and ended up walking out with the Torn Speaker because it just sounded better.

[@ookami692]

Seriously man, love this video and the original unboxing video. Because of this, I now I have a 200$ backup pedalboard. Surprisingly killer 🤣🤣

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it. Hope to have earned your sub and good luck with that board🤘

[@ookami692]

@@SteveSterlacci definitely got a sub man. Great channel!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thank you!! Means a lot 🤘🤘🤘

[@kgbbtheroyalkaoticgreatblu4402]

11:26 SO AWESOME!

[@tristanrodriguez8254]

great video quality. gotta love it

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks Tristan! That was my quarantine project. Investing in some nice gear and learning how to use it

[@katelynrenee04]

when he said google he sounded like the mandolorian lmao

[@SteveSterlacci]

This is the way

[@katelynrenee04]

yessss 👏🏼👏🏼😂

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@katelynrenee04 i still rewind the last 2 minutes of the finale 4 times a day 🤣🤣🤣

[@katelynrenee04]

YES OMG I WAS SO SHOOK!!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Best scene since the originals!

[@ck2music712]

Josh Scott from J.H.S. says that the Distortion is a Marshall Guv'nor sounding circuit, anybody else have any opinion what the Distortion is or COULD be?

[@AndrewLewisHowe]

The Kokko Vibe is actually a really decent mini-sized pedal for a UniVibe like effect. Lots of warmth.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Nice! I havent played that one

[@TheRandalljburke]

Great video Steve thanks for sharing

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@alex-solo]

NUX Delay is actually more advanced than the Kokko/Amazon one, it has smart tap tempo (no need to hold the switch before tapping) and the USB port on board for the software updates

[@SteveSterlacci]

At one point, this one was the same NU X one. I assume that one is the upgraded version? Not totally sure tbh

[@alex-solo]

@@SteveSterlacci NUX Konsequent delay was more advanced from the beginning, btw, it has two different delay sounds that can be switched by holding foot switch down for two seconds. I had both of them and they are not the same. Kokko also has Chorus and Phaser pedals and they are digital, but NUX chorus is again different (with few chorus sounds in one pedal) and there's no phaser in NUX small product line.

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@alex-solo sounds a lot cooler! Lol for a basic cheapo, this ones not too bad though! Thank you for adding your experience and knowledge. I get a lot of questions I cant answer, so this def helps everhkne

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

The Kokko pHf2 Phaser is pretty much a Phase 90 clone & is unique tooo Kokko since as said; none of the other knockoff brands offer a phaser pedal, nor the deep orange color it's painted. i have to say it's a decent, not half bad stompbox & it's small size is favorable for adding it tooo a existing pedal board setup that might be a little crowded, plus it's seamless button tap true bypass analog circuitry (unlike that latest new Boss brand;Waza Craft¿) thanx dude(s)

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

So will they become collectors items in the future ?

[@SteveSterlacci]

Imagine?! Lol i am sitting on gold!!!

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

@@SteveSterlacci You are as they not available nowadays :(

[@SteveSterlacci]

@WORSTXB1PLAYER Tyler Tee H C i thought i saw them back in stock? Check out my follow up vids. There are alternatives under diff names

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

@@SteveSterlacci they not in stock either now. But thanks and hope you have a great one.

[@SteveSterlacci]

I just checked my link in the pinned description. They are available in the US for sure. Thanks! You too

[@dmuggins]

check all of the behringer pedals on Amazon

[@DefconClark]

My question is, would you take these on tour?

[@SteveSterlacci]

I'll never not tour with an all in 1 digital unit as a sideman (in my current mindset lol). As far as reliability and trust... that's a big idk and i doubt it. But... you could buy 3 backups of each and have them on hand and still be way under a boutique price

[@AdaptivePhenix]

@@SteveSterlacci Dammit, you beat me to it; _anything_ can fail and so whenever I consider making an investment, the cost is double because I buy at least two. For a floor unit, in spite of all the ongoing marketing hype, I have found that nothing comes close to the old Digitech GNX4 and I now own *six* of these things. I have so many because the original owners didn't have the patience to figure them out and so long-story-short, I have less than $1000 in six, as-new devices. 👍

[@derekkeel6329]

@@AdaptivePhenix DigiTech RP2000 I bought new almost 25 years ago still going strong, but I have a GNX3&4 as well. There's no way to build a comparable pedalboard for the same $.

[@robertpowell7319]

What price differences (if any) occur between the different brands?

[@SteveSterlacci]

I think I have links to the kokko stuff. All about the same price from what I remember

[@Zildawolf]

only reason I bought like 2 of em was cause I'm putting them in a very high gain feedback circuit which I expect to kill them :)

[@SteveSterlacci]

Intense!

[@jfmax2000]

Dead On Steve... That's What I Concluded Also 💯

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks John!

[@Bob-Whiting]

I saw today while looking for these pedals, that some guy out in Calif. is selling 2 kinds for $121.00 each! lolz They must be collectors items already. Notify Josh Scott from JHS pedals immediately!

[@SteveSterlacci]

LOL I will hold onto them just in case!

[@Bob-Whiting]

@@SteveSterlacci Yeah, who knows you could be sitting on the nest Klon Centaur!

[@ErrorlVlacro]

I fucking hate people and just thinking they have extremely expensive shit. No you’re just hoping for suckers and fucking up the market.

[@arnoldpaine6143]

All the links he provides now point you to the KoKKo branded pedals at Amazon instead of the Amazon branded ones. But, if you scroll down on the page you'll see a link to the Amazon Basics verson, which is slightly cheaper.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Yes thats the point of this particular vid. They were discontinued or sold out for a bit so i made this as a follow up to my demo of the full line

[@arnoldpaine6143]

@@SteveSterlacciSeems Amazon and the manufacturer are chasing their own dollar down the toilet, and a consumer can follow links from the original product, which may not even be original, to the knock off, to the Amazon knockoff of the knockoff. All of which generally leads to a collapse of the company originally manufacturing and marketing the product, with the end result being the product is no longer available. I've seen this happen with a few businesses that I had some interaction with. They priced themseves out of million dillar revenue streams and eventually closed operations.

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@arnoldpaine6143 my brain hurts

[@arnoldpaine6143]

@@SteveSterlacciCompany my relative worked for carried an extremely expensive exclusive product line that they diversified to COSTCO and within two years they were gone.

[@paulbogan3400]

Odds are better than even that the same pedals are available under about half a dozen other names right now, and will be available under a half dozen more a year from now (or sooner). I've seen it with other products on Amazon, too.

[@SteveSterlacci]

most likely! I cover this in the follow up vid on the channel

[@guitarguts666]

I am shocked by the distortion pedal You should do another video with just that pedal and put a noise killer on the back and say can just get rid of that distortion noise so it's really distortion clean when you stop playing maybe you could do a simulated set up with the baby bomb 30 as your power amp

[@gregalon]

Surprised they haven't picked up the excellent NuX Klon clone. They could call it the Amaklon Prime. Just take my money already!

[@SteveSterlacci]

STOP THE MADNESS!!! Id be in lol

[@CHR1S1S3M0]

They are still there I actually bought one the other day

[@galelongputt]

It is no crime to want to pay less for something. However be careful what you wish for. Do we all one day want to work for Amazon or Google, I hope not.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Skynet?!

[@galelongputt]

@@SteveSterlacci Good one! LOL

[@SteveSterlacci]

🤣🤣🤣

[@galelongputt]

@@SteveSterlacci Speaking of Skynet. If you've never seen the TV show from 2009-2010 "Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles". Check it out. If you like scifi action adventure. The show is awesome. And it doesn't hurt that Summer Glau is the good terminator in the series. Amazing writing and production value. Fox blew it by putting up against other popular shows so it never got the viewing ratings it needed to survive. There are 2 full seasons available. Stay cool, Gale

[@spivvo]

They are doing what huge companies like Proctor and Gamble and others started doing decades ago…. They own/ed different brands of soap poweder toothpaste etc that compete with each other…. The difference between the brands is mostly marketing and packaging which is why you can go to my local supermarket in tne UK and buy some own brand products for less than HALF the branded product.

[@BikerTrash75]

Just checked they are all sold out except the delay which is selling for $38. Guess everyone has been buying them.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Check my follow up in the pinned comment! Can still get them!

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

they sound awesome damn!!

[@SteveSterlacci]

Not bad right?!

[@horizonb1744]

Nux mighty plug is pretty cool. Nice portable headphones amp

[@SteveSterlacci]

Haven't tried it yet!

[@gordonhenderson1194]

Rebranding isn't new, most electronics are made in Shenzhen and the scale If it is huge. You buy an order of bulk and they just repaint them. Companies are aware name is everything, so I'd probably bet that even the big boys have some rebrands in their silo, especially for the more accessible pricepoint product. Maybe it's my attitude towards pricing, or the whole married with kids type budget, but if it sounds good, unless it's something extra unique I'm not going to moan about paying less for the same thing.

[@johnnykarate_SweepLeg]

VSN brand on Amazon have similar looks and prices

[@elijahjohnson8978]

Thanks man

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks for watching!

[@Dan-ms4oq]

I'd used the Kokko stuff for two years before the Amazon Basics range came out and I as screaming on every forum that it was a big scam. I tried telling Gear Gods this but he fobbed me off in his comments. For the money the Vibrato is the best.

[@SteveSterlacci]

what about them is a scam? they seem like just rebranded import pedals

[@Dan-ms4oq]

@@SteveSterlacci I think the price was much better in America but in Europe 2-3 times the price of the original units. Eh, I'm hyperbolic about it I guess but you had no idea how annoying it was to see people talking about these "new" designs... when they had been around for years.

[@SixStringflyboy]

AmazonBasics is literally Amazon's answer to Wish.com. Just go to Amazon and search AmazonBasics guitar and you'll see some of the same gear available on Wish.

[@SteveSterlacci]

interesting!

[@damightyshabba439]

Sound circuits are really not very hard to solder.... Seriously, if you're into amps, guitar effects... maybe look at making your own pedals. If you're looking at £20 units, you're not that fussed about quality.... and the satisfaction of playing your own kit is pretty good. It's a good hobby. I build with wood rather than aluminium, but thats just personal preference. People think circuit board are some kind of mystical thing... they're not. Pretty easy to put together.

[@SteveSterlacci]

great idea!

[@OnwardAndEdward]

Great video! Coulda used more G chords tho

[@SteveSterlacci]

Instead D?!

[@OnwardAndEdward]

@@SteveSterlacci on second thought, make it all Eb11’s

[@SteveSterlacci]

Theres more than 1 Eb?!

[@OnwardAndEdward]

@@SteveSterlacci prolly lol

[@kevinr.3542]

2 years later and these pedals are still basically sold out and unavailable. Other than the compression pedal they're not on the site anymore. Just weird considering they were insanely popular when released and sold out so fast. Why were they profitable enough for Amazon to introduce but not keep in stock? It seems like they must have made a profit.Or is it just THAT much easier to sell other brands versions and let them deal with manufacturing costs. Must not have been profitable enough.

[@yankeepeters2270]

Cool video, Steve. These pedals sound decent enough and are certainly affordable, but for some reason they aggravate the shit outta me. They just seem to cheapen everything associated with the electric guitar. I realize it’s a weird attitude about them but I’ll bet I’m not the only one.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Thanks for checking it out! I felt that way at first too. After reading and hearing a bunch of comments, they have their place. The same player interested in buying expensive boutique will pass on these. But the beginner, young kid or player on a budget will hopefully use these and make some great music!

[@yankeepeters2270]

@@SteveSterlacci , Youre absolutely right. I’m probably just pissed because over the years I’ve spent a ton of cash on boutique pedals that really don’t sound all that much better than these budget pedals.

[@SteveSterlacci]

@@yankeepeters2270 at least they'll hold their value! These will always bee $20-$45 pedals

[@ck2music712]

I've got the Kokko Compressor, TubeScreamer (Overdrive), and Distortion, BUT, I pronounce it "Cock-Oh", cause of the 2nd K... Nucks, New-X, Moskee, Moss-Sky, and now Coco, and Cock-Oh, lol...

[@SteveSterlacci]

OH !

[@merak0044]

OMG! Just like in Canada with a pack of smokes. They all look alike but different.

[@DarkShadows-me2fj]

I’m in love with that tele. What is it?

[@SteveSterlacci]

Check out Iconic Guitars out of San Diego! Tell them I sent ya

[@hunterofthemystic]

About a week before you put out this video I was looking on the box for a saphue vintage pedal; which I had read was also a Kmise . The box had a web site on it. szgetmusic.c Which if you go to the guitar effects pedals on the left handed menu you will find out there is 15 pages of pedals....joyo, mooer, nux, aroma who puts out tomsline pedals and many many more. They are a mass production company who if you buy a large order they will make them and silk screen whatever name on it you want. Its worth checking out. very cool. Solves alot of the questions concerning these "cheap" pedals that look alot alike. They also list alot of the specifics of each pedal and description.

[@SteveSterlacci]

very cool! I will check on that. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@klhilde]

@@SteveSterlacci Pretty sure that is a marketer/exporter website, and has nothing to do with either the manufacture or branding of the pedals. Their inventory looks incomplete for every brand I have a passing awareness of. For example, they have none of the newer Caline pedals, but some of the discontinued pedals; for Joyo, they have Dr. J and almost nothing else; for Aroma they have the Tomsline mini pedals but none of the full form pedals; etc. And it appears they are selling straight up counterfeits as well. If you go to AliExpress, you will find many, many, many little exporters selling these pedals, some of which will happily imply they are the manufacturer.

[@klhilde]

Here is a list of China pedal brands I've seen .... most appear to be just rebrands, OEMs ... and some branded lines even appear to pick and choose from two or more manufacturers to create their brand line. Ammoon Andoer Aroma (mostly Tomsline) Aural Dream Azor (a Caline minis brand) Biyang Blaxx Caline Cool Music Craz Cuvave Daphon Dolamo Donner Dr. J (a Joyo brand) Eno / EX (are all Eno also EX? Are all EX also Eno?) Flamma Flatsons Ginean Hotone iSet Joyo Kmise Kokko Koogo Kymcoco Landlord FX Lekato Moen Mogoo Mooer Mosky Movall Muslady My Naomi Newkirk NuX Pigtone Rowin Saphue Sinvertek Smiger Sonicake Stageright SR Swiff Tomsline (always Aroma) Tone City Twinote Valeton VSN Xin Sound YMUZE Edit: Found some more. Amuzir Clefly Mimidi (rebrands of Caline's Azor mini pedals?) Playwell Stax Edit II: Mugig Muzizy (rebrands of Caline's Azor mini pedals) Neewer Xvive

[@sonnyturner6334]

Went on Amazon the only pedal there was the Delay

[@SteveSterlacci]

Looks like they sold out, but can still get them. Check out my 1 month follow up kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJKcmGqhiaeKbKc

[@samanthaarnold3687]

Anyone wanna sell their amazon basics delay pedal? Its not on the website anymore and its the only one im lackin

[@SteveSterlacci]

crazy how hard they are to find now

[@mikeroadblock]

We should be supporting the real makers of the originals.

[@SteveSterlacci]

Who are those originals?