What Happened To C+C Music Factory? | The Lip Syncing Scandal They Tried To Keep Quiet

These two weren’t the only ones in the middle of a lip syncing scandal in the early ‘90s. So were C+C Music Factory. The group exploded onto the worldwide music scene with their very first song. Little did fans know, the woman they were seeing on their tv screens in the music video mouthing the words wasn’t actually the one belting out the catchy hook.
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[@AquariusSoul]

I find it amusing that the co-founder got upset when Freedom trademarked the group name yet he wasn't a bit moved when they used Martha's voice with no credit given. Things that make you go hmmmm indeed

[@areiaaphrodite]

I was just about to say the same thing!

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

@@areiaaphrodite exactly they used not one singer's voice but Jocelyn Browns vocals were used for snap's the power Martha Wash had her vocals stolen by black box another house club dance group I hope she sued them and c&c.

[@cfran671]

Karma!

[@amandadunn7678]

Lol So true.

[@blockavelli]

😂👍🏿

[@MrBopeel]

Even if they didn't want her in the videos, they could have at least given Martha credit and paid her. It would never have been an issue.

[@jasonallen3678]

They're alphabet, so what you expect them to do 🤷‍♂️

[@bettyb1313]

Right

[@miguelmusicajw]

Exactly!

[@allylou5151]

I agree 👍

[@pe7e]

Freedom trademarking the name is their karma for not crediting Martha for her vocals.

[@JuicyPopEntertainment]

😬

[@GalaxyGyrl8888]

👏YESS!!! The way this story turned was UNEXPECTED!!😆😂👍

[@TheeCoachg]

Freedom is disgusting as well. I dont see it as a win for anyone smh

[@ashleysforehead9008]

Martha 's voice is amazing. People have been ripping off her voice for decades without giving her credit. I feel bad for Zelma because she has a beautiful voice herself and was used as a pawn.

[@bernicesmith4248]

SMH.

[@davincibarnette]

Zelma has an ok voice at best.

[@krisjonson9193]

freedom williams was one of the wackest rappers for that time, but smart business mov e on his part to trade mark the name

[@larryhall2805]

Little girls on my school bus still yell/sing, 'Everybody dance now!'

[@kayk.d.noonoo]

Martha has a big drop kicken voice like no other. She has never been accredited for all the work she has accomplished. It was really sad how her voice was used for C&C but wasn't allowed to be in the video. In the end she got everything that was owed to her. I felt really bad for Zelma because she was persuaded and used only for her looks. She knew all along she couldn't sing and didn't have the talent. I guess the spotlight really meant a lot to her to have taken on so much wrong. She wasn't as bad as she seemed because she did admit that she wasn't the one actually singing. In the end she did apologize to Martha about her participation in the role. I knew eventually C&C was going to fall apart because they had too much dirt and scandal under their belts that caught up with them. You can't do wrong and expect for right to follow you. R.I.P. David Cole.

[@kiki1573]

I canceled C+C Music Factory after I found out Zelma lip synced off Martha Wash. So what if Martha is a full figured woman? She's a big beautiful woman with a big soulful voice. The entertainment industry loves to discard people based on their appearance. Then you see young women develop body image insecurities; because all the women on screen are size 4 and they think they need to look like them to feel attractive. Martha Wash deserves her flowers!💐

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

The group black box did the same thing to her.

[@leelee185]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@dezinechic]

this! and that eel looking thing got his nerve talking about what he rather look at when he is anything but pleasing to the eyes......long azz train head chump. why it thinks anyone wants to willingly look at 14:52......things that make you really go hmmmmm!

[@juliusmaloney]

And she’d already appeared in a video for ‘It’s Raining Men’ as one part of the duo The Weather Girls, so hardly a precedent to have Martha on camera!

[@SansoHumar]

Kiki they got cancelled way before you did

[@TASconfidential]

Say her name baby!!! MARTHA WASH!!! One of the most iconic, STOLEN voices in music. C+C music factory, black box, seduction, and others ALL stole her voice. Black Box’s entire album was Martha Wash’s voice!!!!

[@nehsangbong7259]

The music business = A WHOLE MESS

[@McLarenMercedes]

Nah, just *pop music business* You don't see this in other genres where the real artists write, perform their songs and play the instruments.

[@nehsangbong7259]

@@McLarenMercedes nah. It's ALL genres

[@TASconfidential]

When top vocalists like Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross say you can SANG, then you know it’s real. Mrs. Wash is no joke baby!!!

[@danavixen6274]

I love C+C Music Factory! But, the highly underrated Martha Wash was not having it and rightfully so! She has even done background vocals for Rebbie Jackson's biggest hit Centipede. Her voice is AMAZING! 🤩

[@dianeross6153]

Didn't know that.

[@ashleysforehead9008]

This is true , It was Martha hitting those high notes towards the end of centipede.

[@dermainedibbins9157]

@@ashleysforehead9008 I was at a party and they played Centipede. I told a friend that Janet wished she could hit those notes only to now find out it was Martha lol

[@ashleysforehead9008]

@@dermainedibbins9157 I thought it was Rebbie that did centipede. They sound so much alike.

[@Machelle3200]

Wow..I thought I heard Martha Wash on that song..Well I hope she's getting royalties for all this do whopping she did for other people..She got done so wrong..smfh.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

Zelma Davis is a great singer, but Martha Wash is LEGENDARY!

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I feel bad cause Zelma was just young and trying to get a bag. In a way both women were used by a couple of slimy dudes who just wanted what they considered a "hot chick" in the video/on stage.

[@AnimalsCryToo]

When being selfish and bogus goes wrong . Happy for Martha and Martha only

[@Hains22]

Martha Wash is easily one of the top three voices ever. Please forward all debates to your momma😂

[@ladivinapr]

Exactly!! 🤣👏🏾

[@TASconfidential]

No debate here!!! I was blessed enough to see her perform live a few years ago. That woman took the audience to the club and the church all in one performance. There are only four singers that literally gives me chills when they sing, and the ICONIC Martha Wash is at the top of that list.

[@PTUnlimited]

Facts!!! That woman is a F’N powerhouse!!! She deserves every single 🌸

[@user-oe2ov7du8l]

Lol crazy my mom was listening to her the other day

[@karstkuitenbrouwer9286]

@@TASconfidential I’m curious who the other 3 are

[@StellarAvenger]

No way those big, bombastic voices came from those skinny women. Of course, it was Martha Wash, the queen of house music.

[@StellarAvenger]

@@natsohigh5552 That's true. No one could touch Whitney

[@pe7e]

@@natsohigh5552 Whitney actually said "there's no way that voice is coming out of that little girl" in reference to Zelma. 😂

[@VidWatcher01]

Mariah has a powerhouse voice & started off skinny, Celine Dion is skinny & has a powerful voice too

[@VidWatcher01]

Zelma's real voice was pretty decent & actually complemented Martha's voice

[@SteadyNUnremitting]

@PE7E The same was said about Whitney when she first got on the scene.

[@christines1821]

Funny how back in the day Freedom said he rather look at Zelma than Martha wash yet look at him today muffin top and all, Karma came for him

[@davidl570]

He needs to put a shirt on!

[@MissB2483]

So they NEVER copyrighted the name and the member who wasn't even a founding member or had anything to do w/ the name & creation, swooped in and got the rights to it!! You see how God works!! If they hadn't done Martha dirty, none of that probably wouldn't have happened 😂😂😂 Be careful who you screw over b/c it ALWAYS comes back!

[@JuicyPopEntertainment]

Amen!

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

I didn't know that I love that song .

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Good for them I hope black box got theirs too.

[@specialk0122]

Right why would he not copyrighted/trademark the name 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@GalaxyGyrl8888]

@@specialk0122🤔 that’s what I didn’t understand too

[@TheRetroWoman80]

No one compares to Martha Wash. Facades rule a lot of things, not just the industry...smh.

[@lolafairchild88]

"Freedom" had a lot of nerve talking about Martha's looks, look at him now 😳🤣..... Martha Wash is a legend in the music industry, especially the LGBTQ club music scene!

[@socialmedianotfunanymore]

well he was young and hot then. Of course when you get older, you aren't a sex symbol anymore. But let's be honest, I'd rather look at the model than Martha. That doesn't make me a bad person.

[@peachesj4748]

@@socialmedianotfunanymore You added the last part because the opposite is true.

[@davidl570]

@@peachesj4748OUCH!

[@hermit7903]

Great review. I hope Martha got paid what she deserved. She has always had a great voice.

[@nicolesherman8974]

Martha Wash deserves all the credit honestly. She can sing her face off, even the late great Whitney Houston said it. The reason why she wasn’t featured in the video was because she was fat Black woman. A shame if I’m being honest.

[@lamontsgymandcustomknives7385]

Amen!!!

[@thebrownbaldy]

You ain't never lied

[@dianeross6153]

I remember Whitney saying that.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

It's b.s. just because she didn't have the look this industry is evil.

[@bernicesmith4248]

No shame in being honest.

[@crencottrell7849]

Zelma is beautiful 😁

[@Enirutas]

"I don't mean to be rude." Sure you don't, Freedom. Gross. Robert and David were gross. I'm glad Martha sued. I remember this scandal (well, learning about it later since I was 7 years old when the scandal went down 😆). That downplay they pulled at the awards ceremony was awful.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Totally wack indeed. The industry is just👎🏻

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

@@TheRetroWoman80 I wonder how black box responded as well they were thieves too?.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Black box was trash too.

[@thepubknight6144]

its sad what happened to rob and frank from milli vanilla , at least they both can actually sing and rap, zelina can sing but freedom cant really rap well

[@Omgits7ito]

It’s terrible cuz Zelma was actually a good singer. I don’t understand why not just have her record the tracks herself instead snubbing Martha Walsh and subsequently ruining Zelma’s career. Zelma performed all those songs live and did a decent job. She was no Martha but that woman could sing.

[@kayk.d.noonoo]

Zelma just didn't have it the way Martha had it. Martha has a one of a kind voice like no other. She knew what she could do without a doubt.

[@jamillawebb3567]

I love MARTHA! She can sing her @$$ off. While I’m happy we live in a time where singers like Lizzo can be super stars, there is still a lot of fatphobia and discrimination against heavy set women in the entertainment industry. If Martha was in gospel she would have been a SUPERSTAR! Thank you for this video!💕🙌🏽💕🙌🏽

[@JG-sd9zd]

Thing is - she’s an attractive woman, I’m gobsmacked by this ignorance.

[@gigigiseleworld]

Ageism don't forget that one too..!

[@grios5530]

Nobody wanna see Lizzo either

[@andydhillon1977]

It's actually a shame where we are. It shouldn't be celebrated. Too many overweight people.

[@davidl570]

@@JG-sd9zd No doubt about that! I think she's a cutie.

[@JassminaVellucci]

Martha Wash. Is one of the most successful dance artist of all time. Her voice is so powerful. Using her voice for Black Box; Seduction, C+C music factory. Without giving her credit was just wrong. Also the way they treat her, because she doesn’t fit their image. I’m glad she got her money and credit in the end.

[@brotherwolf3588]

Martha has been treated so badly over the years

[@beaniegee5129]

RIP David Cole 27 years later

[@kozmikoblivion]

The sad part is that Zelma can sing. It was just lazy of them to keep Martha on the lead vocal.

[@ashleysforehead9008]

Exactly 💯

[@pjeff30]

Yes! Especially knowing that she had sued about the exact same thing before.

[@TASconfidential]

She’s good. But she’s no MARTHA WASH.

[@daveydcxcix]

They probably cut vocals with Zelma on sweat and probably cut true love by seduction with the girls....but quickly realized Martha's vocals were superior ...and the others weren't working on the tracks.

[@lexkanyima2195]

@@daveydcxcix it felt so undubbed

[@makedab4614]

It seems like there's no honor among thieves, it seems like the founder never expected anyone to steal from him even though he'd made a career from other people's vocals and samples. It sounds like Zalma was young and in a bad contract so I don't blame her for decisions made by the owner and record label.

[@nicolesherman8974]

A video on the late great Donna Summer would be so good!

[@WeezyJeffersonYo]

8:45 they planned that and it didn't go over well. She starts trying to sing before he even finished saying that she can "sang" 🤣😂

[@nkotbsouth]

😂😂😂

[@v.a.l.5165]

Marth was played so hard by these groups/labels. I'm so glad that she refused to allow herself to be taken advantage of. They should have simply credited and paid her accordingly.

[@ebonyrushharrington1901]

No excuse!!!!

[@ebonyrushharrington1901]

Yeah right!!!!!

[@charlenemckinney7858]

EXACTLY 💯!!!;

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Black box was no better then they should be called out for stealing from Martha shame on them too.

[@beaniegee5129]

A story on Seduction would be very interesting

[@beaniegee5129]

Can't wait for the What Happened to Black Box story!!

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

I know I hope they got sued too they did her equally dirty

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

I know I hope they got sued too they did her equally dirty

[@danavixen6274]

Add Ace of Base. Curious about them as well. 🤔

[@streetsoundselectro124]

Loletta Holloway will be watching also!

[@Linda-hq5uv]

@@danavixen6274 Ace of Base sings for real. I’ve heard them live.

[@jstnm]

I knew about the lip sync, but I didn't know how dirty they did Martha. Freedom doing the last standing member dirty seems pretty fitting.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

He got mad at freedom for trademarking the name but he didn't have the same energy to take up for Martha .

[@davidl570]

Talk about a two-face. Sheesh.

[@musicnstuff2910]

Yesss

[@dimeraward2677]

Who cares if Marsha is big ,why steal her vocals then and not give her the credit at the AMA

[@beaniegee5129]

Havoc of the Infamous Mobb Deep once said that Columbia Records was a commercial machine on an interview on Drink Champs back in 2018

[@GalaxyGyrl8888]

I’m currently reading his autobiography book 📕! It’s really good so far!!☺️

[@ICONICPARIS]

What's crazy is Zelma can really sing. She has a great voice too. Not a good as Martha Wash but it was really good for dance music especially. Also Martha has a 1 of a kind voice. How in the hell did they think they'd get away with it. Plus who's going to see Freedman Williams in concert? Who? I wanna know!!! Lol

[@lisasilversmith]

They just had Freedom Williams in Daytona.

[@brycehardin2714]

Karma baby. They did Martha wrong and denied it. Now Freedom Williams made a business move and Cliviles is mad? Hmmm....

[@thebrownbaldy]

Not gonna lie at 14:50 Freedom Williams does have that construction workers body 😅. But man oh man, he pulled a power play the same way Micheal Jackson did The Beatles. Glad to know Zelma apologized to Martha even though it wasn't her fault at the time and don't blame Martha one bit for suing either.

[@bluebird7557]

😂😂😂. That's his karma for saying he preferred looking at Zelma over Martha.

[@crest4sensation938]

@@bluebird7557 I thought he busted ass preferred to look at dudes. If he desire dudes, I am not upset at his choice either.

[@socialmedianotfunanymore]

@@crest4sensation938 you think Freedom was down with dudes because of his comment he made about Martha??

[@donniebunkerboi9975]

Liar

[@jessicaaudate]

Ohhhhh chile. That 15 minutes was a roller coaster ride!🎢

[@tinahobbs5217]

Martha Wash has a very powerful voice!!!!!!!

[@PERCYHARRIS-gn5yb]

You hear her. But you can't see her.

[@BillyBatsonMarvel]

Freedom gave Clivillies his karma back for what he and Cole did to Martha, Freedom kept the checks rolling years after C&C kick him to the curb.

[@defblinders9585]

I remember back in 91-92 we used to drive our parents crazy screaming "EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!" just randomly and loudly.

[@shood35]

I don't get it. I never have. Martha's voice is good enough to steal but don't want to see her. (Though you did with the Weather Girls). Just like with Milli Vanilii. The voices were good enough to use without anyone knowing but let's have "better looking" guys lip sync. Stop stealing voices and just put the real people singing front and center. They've got the chops. Give THEM the spotlight.

[@lexkanyima2195]

This is pre auto-tune

[@JillCheese]

To Milli Vanilli's credit, they could sing, but they couldn't sing in English very well because they weren't from here and didn't know the words well. Their manager or some boss of their's was the one who really messed them over and even tried to start a group called "The Real Milli Vanilli", but that was phony, too. The difference was that they were Americans who knew exactly what they were doing (just for clout). Truly a sad situation.

[@sampa2nyc]

"Do It Properly" was also a hit in the United States. Any house head would remember it well.

[@likeitornotwithmichaellane4896]

Another great episode, Queen. I remember when they landed at the top with Gonna Make You Sweat. The business is really crazy. I’m shocked that Freedom could do that. Wow. But the best part was you speaking Espanol!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍 Needed some cold water!

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Apparently freedom was the smart one in the end .

[@GalaxyGyrl8888]

👍THISSS!!!☺️🎯💯👍

[@SagittariusQueen1980]

Martha should have been in their videos instead of that model, but the music industry was all about image over actual talent and sadly, STILL IS!

[@mariahardy1201]

Well Rosie Gaines has done well for herself as did Patty Austin.... Despite their size.

[@GalaxyGyrl8888]

👍His karma for saying that about her☺️

[@kittenface8577]

The model Zelma was also a really good singer too,she had talent. None of this was her fault.

[@areiaaphrodite]

Original C + C: *steals Martha's vocals and tries to keep credit and money from her* Thanks to our fans for believing us over this lip-syncing thing! *Gets their name stolen by Freedom* THE AUDACITY!!!

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Lol and he wasn't a founding member ha ha 🤣 that's what they get karma is a b----.

[@originaldeftom]

This should be a text book example in every music school or (music) lawyers office on how accurate the saying "You reap what you sow!" really is. So "Be careful what you wish for!"

[@nehsangbong7259]

Damn. All this while I had no idea there was a lip synching scandal here. I listen to their music because I'm a young old soul. But I definitely failed to do my research with this one.

[@Jaheartsjonas]

I'm a young old soul too and I've been familiar with this scandal for a while, it's very heavily tied to their name like for instance when you look up the song on Wikipedia, I can understand not knowing if you just hear Everybody Dance Now and not look up the group, but I'm not sure how you missed this if you regularly listen to them lol

[@nehsangbong7259]

@@Jaheartsjonas I don't regularly listen to them like all the time LMFAOOOOOOO. I have 3 of their songs saved on my Spotify list and every now and then I listen to the songs. Obviously I would know the artists that sings the songs but that doesn't mean I always Google them unless I'm like really bored or have time to do that. And I'm just being honest here. I was definitely NOT aware of this.

[@nehsangbong7259]

@@Jaheartsjonas Just like how I grew up listening to Milli Vanillis "Girl You Know It's True" on a station that plays 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s and today's music, but it wasn't until like 2016 when I watched an episode of Oprah's "Where Are They Now"? That I found out that it was a lip synching scandal. I was born in 93 😂😂. I wasn't even born when this was trending. So it shouldn't come as a suprise that I didn't know. Yes, I do my research about old school classics and that's why I'm grateful for docs and channel's like this one that conver these stories so that even the younger generation learns something. 😄

[@TASconfidential]

Both C+C Music Factory and Milli Vanilli, are the main reasons why people are aware of inappropriate lip syncing.

[@nehsangbong7259]

@@TASconfidential yup. That I know.

[@charlita25]

Ms. Martha Wash is beautiful 🤩. Shame on them

[@kevincarlo4407]

Rebbie Jackson was lipping her vocals towards the end of Centipede in the video years before this too. It happened a lot. I think part of the truth is no one ever expected the C&C and Black Box projects to be so massive or ever even be heard beyond the dance/club scene when the records were put together. Ghost vocals were common in that world. Jennifer Lopez also has major hits with ghost vocals...also the Paula Abdul vocal "blending" scandal...some of Phil Spector's girl groups...Milli Vanilli most famously...many of these sort of things through out the history of pop music.

[@ReddzVoice]

: Ironically, Martha Wash's vocals are soaring at the end of Rebbie Jackson's 'Centipede'; and that was one of the Music Industry's hot little secrets for decades, too. Martha Wash is just epic! 🔥 Peace and love...

[@shellyagourmet9409]

Between C&C Music Factory and Milli Vanilli I don't know whp I was disappointed in more because I loved them both. These were the first stories I remember hearing that began exposing the music industry

[@dorothygale1104]

You can add Black Box to the kist of lip synching imposters because it was Martha’s voice on Everybody Everybody and Strike It Up.

[@beaniegee5129]

Freedom Williams also collaborated with New Kids on the Block on the song Call it What You Want

[@mdatx2012]

I love that remix of that song. One of my faves.

[@LatriceKelly]

Till y’all do right by Martha, everything C + C gone do gonna crumble! Period. ✌🏾

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

Lol...

[@nanettewhite8269]

Lmfao. U need to stop. Got me pissing on myself

[@nkotbsouth]

I'm reading your post, but hearing these words spoken by Miss Celie. 😂

[@imcrimsonjihad952]

Lol..I remember that awards show when she tried to show her vocals. She made it worse... Bla bla bla.

[@Msz_Brittany]

Zelma’s daughter is Rainbow on Mixedish

[@bmw3842]

This was a time in music when other vocals were used on the recordings and they were not given credit.But thanks to Tena Marie who fought for these artist to be compensated for their work and to be included in the credits on the album liner notes .

[@Phyclone]

goes to show you, no matter how cool you may be with some people, get that ish in writing. I also thought it was interesting in CB4 how they put that easter egg in the Wacky D music vid

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

Come and pet the...

[@ariesthoughts]

“Shoo dodo dodo dah YEAH” 🤣😂😭

[@paultopfitness8661]

Well he doesn’t have that trademark six pack anymore.

[@missgigip]

Man the remix to take a toke w patra will forever be a jam and Boricua anthem is a classic to this day 🙌🏽…I did a dance w my cousins to gonna make u sweat 🤣🤣🤣

[@v.a.l.5165]

Zelma is so pretty. She embodied the fabulousity of that era.

[@loriannwhite8384]

Even Janet ain’t trying to hear C.’s bull$hit.

[@nataliemscrzysxycoolharris]

Yeah C+C was hot until I saw this skinny sister lip-syncing with Queen Martha Wash's voice...then the disrespect about her being a BBW, no more support from me.

[@charlita25]

Ms. Zelma can sing. But Ms. Martha Wash can saaaaaaang 🎤

[@beaniegee5129]

C&C Music Factory's Here We Go (Let's Rock 'n' Roll) also appeared on the compilation album MTV Party to Go Vol. 2!!

[@FireMadeFleshII]

It's really horrible how some of the biggest hits of the early 90s are forever marred by stuff like this. Those producers, the label execs (etc) knew exactly what they were doing. It was shameful then & even more so 30+ years later. Martha Wash is & will always be a LEGEND. All that said, three songs I've always felt signaled the 90s have arrived: "Gonna Make You Sweat," "Vogue," & "U Can't Touch This." That trifecta; the way those polished visuals jumped out the screen & that music made you want to get up & dance...UNMATCHED. An Era.

[@scar78217]

Very well put. I was 18, had just left home and that trio of songs was everywhere. ALL. THE. TIME. As a college freshman just turned legal, i was too, including the first stop of the US leg of Madonna's Blond Ambition world tour. Think "Vogue" was big before?!? Lordy! Good times, indeed!

[@rondadavis3478]

Giving props to Sylvester who discovered Martha and didn't give a damn about her weight...

[@BadTV1993]

Sylvester was too real for the industry , I hear

[@SazzyGurl7]

I knew that wasn't her voice but couldn't put my finger on it. I knew it was one of the Weather Girls just didn't know which one.

[@lsky4446]

I remember All of this happening in real time. I just didn't have All these extra details. Blatantly Shocking! 😳💯

[@williams.matthews2711]

Didn’t LL Cool J do something similar in his 1995 video “Doing It”? The featured female artist rapping the second verse on the track did not appear in the video because she didn’t have “the look.” They replaced her with a model lip syncing the words. I’m a huge LL fan, but I always gave him and Def Jam the side eye.

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

That was unfair what the did to LeShaun though...yes, the rumour is she was pregnant, but there are still ways you can create a scene through a pregnancy. The girl on the video still could have been used, even with LeShaun in the video or performances...

[@williams.matthews2711]

@@fedoramcclaren4294 I agree they could have filmed facial closeups around her pregnancy. Hollyweird does this all the time.

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

@@williams.matthews2711 They sure do!!! All of these excuses people make based on a person not being "marketable"...

[@davidl570]

@@fedoramcclaren4294 No kidding! Many artists like ABBA (Agnetha was pregnant at the time of the Name of the Game video), Lauryn Hill and that backup singer (forgot her name, but both were 6 months pregnant at the time of the That Thing video), Donna Summer (pregnant when she filmed her Love is in Control video) and Chrissie Hynde (pregnant at the time of the Back On The Chain Gang video) have done so and there were no issues! Lord.

[@potatochip4202]

When I was little, my dad was a engineer at a Marriott hotel. He saw the group coming back from performing. He told me Freedom's ponytail was fake and they were all high lol.

[@socialmedianotfunanymore]

wow, does the picture at 6:45 ring any bells lol?

[@jayc3479]

🤣

[@MauriceRivers415]

In the end, karma prevailed: David died before he was 40 (1995), and when Freedom tried to go solo, his career hit the skids. He should be ashamed of himself for still performing shirtless (14:45): he doesn't have the body he had in his 20's, and nobody wants to see that beer belly.

[@g.g.2102]

Love this channel!

[@JuicyPopEntertainment]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@NPGLAMB]

Martha has a beautiful smile! Her body wasn’t any problem to me. Her smile should have been in the video at the very least.

[@ramochai]

Lip sync scandals finished careers of many singers but for some reason nothing happened to Jennifer Lopez.

[@oregonguy13]

Wait what?

[@Katkayz]

She’s got privilege

[@davidl570]

I don't follow.

[@Katkayz]

@@davidl570 she dated puffy and used that to get songs from other artists.also Tommy Motala ( Sony president) got music for meant from Mariah and gave her those songs . Irv gotti used Ashanti’s vocals and gave them to JLO. Jlo got songs and vocals from Ashanti , Christina milian and chante moore . Jlo had Allies in very big positions that helped her career .

[@davidl570]

@@Katkayz Dang, didn't know any of that! Thanks for the info--I now dislike J-Lo even more.

[@RobandSijay]

no shade but u can look at that lady and tell that ain't her voice lol

[@imcrimsonjihad952]

Exactly!

[@JuicyPopEntertainment]

And I oop...

[@a.h.2667]

Yes, I was a kid when this song came out but I still knew something funny was going on when I saw the video.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

@@imcrimsonjihad952 I picked up on it as a child.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

@@a.h.2667 me too.

[@musiclover-cn7tb]

Freedom wasn't an original member and he trademarked the name lol 😆 😂.

[@gj7854]

I’m side eyeing the entire group they seemed to be ok with doing Martha wrong including the girl singer

[@leelee185]

I’m so addicted to this channel every time there’s a new video my hand can’t click fast enough. Great video such a interesting story .

[@camecex]

LGTTR is now my favourite channel. These groups are the soundtrack of my childhood.

[@basquait1]

Man, if you know music......you know that that was the vocals of Martha Walsh. These Cats were HitMakers and all they needed to be transparent.

[@beaniegee5129]

Love these stories so much

[@ChrisBournea]

It's sad that C+C Music Factory couldn't keep going with all the original members, touring from time to time. They were huge in the early '90s and a lot of people would go see them live for the nostalgia factor alone.

[@helgar791]

C+C Music Factory didn't die because of the scandal. It died the minute David Cole died. That doesn't deny the fact that Martha Wash has one of the greatest and most unappreciated voices of that era. Nevertheless....

[@beaniegee5129]

Can't wait for more stories soon!!

[@HeartBreakHigh]

Super interesting vid👍🏾 Very much enjoyed. Thanks 🙂

[@powerbad696]

This is a good,retrospective of C&C Music Factory,loved their music back in the day.You'd hear it every where,makes you wanna dance.PURE NOSTALGIA.I was in the navy when C&C was going strong,used to go to the enlisted and civilian clubs to dance and meet women.Glad I had my WILD times in the military,did crazy things too!!! LOL.Nothing illegal tho.Entered navy a 18,one of my better decisions.LOL. GO NAVY!!!

[@GatorGirl04]

David produced Mariah's "Emotions"....he definitely had an ear for GREAT music. Too bad they couldn't do right by Martha.

[@amiehampton7070]

Yeah David Cole produce Mariah Carey's greatest songs from her album Emotions. You right they did Martha Wash wrong. Rest his Soul

[@blackdragon6]

Martha was right to sue, having said that I still feel bad for Zelma. Hell, I feel bad for Milli Vanilli. The music industry is a dirty business.

[@samuelmuiruri4704]

Have you seen what Dave Chappelle said about the industry is a monster? He can not call his show the DC show because others own the name in perpetuity and throughout the universe. Scammers, All of them

[@trecchannel4205]

Freedom got a belly now? Dayum!

[@abellewis3062]

“Going To Make You Sweat” is my favorite song. Enough said.

[@rory1733]

I love these videos so detailed.

[@preciousblackstone5051]

How you just gonna use someone's talent and not give them their rightful credit? Smh

[@MrDancerHilson007]

My mom and I used to listen to their last album and I didn’t know until a couple years ago about the scandal but I still listen to them, especially their last album when Martha was a full time member

[@09NXN06]

I love the tidbits you always put in your videos!

[@christramontana3598]

😂🤣😆 the janett part in the video awesome