What Happened to Super Shadow?

[@RedX03]

Easy bros just that bad ass. “Killing you in my super form was too easy last time, better even up the playing field”

[@Ryker.RevixVT]

Fun y thing is it's not even even lmao shadow himself shit talks black doom and tells him he surpassed him in power before ramming through his chest Goku style.

[@MisterKenK]

Well that actually sounds like something he would do but doom wings might aswell just straight up be a super form at this point considering everything

[@Obi-Wanthepyromaniac]

Nah super form in way more powerful

[@RedX03]

@@Obi-Wanthepyromaniac facts, I know the wings are just a place holder for the super form since sonic kinda needs those emeralds, but the point still stands

[@ccelite3782]

The one being that was "a fair fight" was Solaris. "Huh. A inter-dimensional super being, this might be a fair fight."

[@bluenitethewarrior9332]

Sonic has the chaos emeralds. Shadow didnt need all 7. Sonic did to fight the time eater

[@jacobweatherford4696]

Shaow wouldn't have needed any emeralds to beat the time eater if you ask me

[@bluenitethewarrior9332]

@jacobweatherford4696 he would. Even with the doom powers, shadow would need his super form. The time eater is way stronger than Black Doom.

[@emirefe5452]

​@@bluenitethewarrior9332i mean i would say damage output wise i think shadow doesn't need any emeralds to beat the time eater but he would need the invincibility that comes with the super form i think

[@bluenitethewarrior9332]

@emirefe5452 I can see your point on that. Counter point. My viewpoint is if shadow is worth two sonics? Like yes, it is classic sonic, but the time eater did outright beat both modern and classic sonic and needed two super sonics to beat time eater

[@emirefe5452]

@@bluenitethewarrior9332 yeah but i am saying shadow only has the damage output to beat the time eater, like he is still only as fast as sonic and is slightly more durable also i would like to think shadow is worth more than 2 sonics if one of them is the classic one because the classics has a very low power output but again i agree shadow would need to be super to beat the time eater, he just doesn't have the endurance or the durability to survive against him

[@moadschlager7405]

Doom Wing + Super Shadow + Inhibtor Rings Off + German Stare

[@Tailstheflame]

Not even The Classic 4 in Super Form could beat that

[@bruharu]

Time eater No legs No arms No powers In a wheelchair Asthma Cancer and naruto by his side

[@nugnug6546]

Wouldn't be surprised if Ian Flynn has shadow do that and it gravely hurts him in IDW

[@Frost_Fierce]

Darkspine sonic + 7 world rings

[@SodorSquareJ333]

I could've beat him easily until you said german stare. i am COOKED

[@comicfan1324]

Bro called Rings Coins 😮

[@flamethereploid1352]

DAMMIT!!!

[@dayvonlouis5187]

He’s a heretic

[@Kitty255Again]

​@@dayvonlouis5187hes a...Pariah

[@HeyNitroNova]

Hey, look, it's the coin from Sonic(this is a reference to a line from a video from Joe)

[@OnlyDoggo1485]

Too many people do that and it hurts my soul

[@chaosgamer5892]

Would’ve been MUCH cooler if the boss fights was a collab between the campaigns kinda like SA2

[@kingdomtrue7008]

Except they would have had to rework the final boss of the base game for that to work

[@yassinashraf1235]

For that idea , they would have to change the main game , remake not a reimagining

[@emario10]

I was hoping it would be like the final hazard

[@shitanotosaurus]

if they did that, they'd have to COMPLETELY rewrite generations. not just edit the cutscenes I mean a full revamp. unneeded and would DEFINITELY annoy more fans than its worth.

[@Jonrocks7]

@@kingdomtrue7008after fighting the time eater for the first time i would NOT mind if they reworked the whole fight

[@lAlwaysHopel]

He’s so broken now that he doesn’t needs it

[@lucaslongolucasksenha7827]

Just like the forgotten Shadow song called "Broken by Sins of Divine Mother"?? (Because nobody remembers the unused song that was planned for Shadow Hedgehog 2005 game but got removed/replaced with other song because they didn't find the creator of that music to give permission to give this music into a Shadow Hedgehog game)

[@TailsSails]

​@@lucaslongolucasksenha7827Forgotten song? L-l-like the forgotten song Who I Am by Magna-Fi (underrated band) that was meant to be the main theme of s-s-shadow 05?

[@mr.nmydude]

Relatable.

[@caguay]

​@@lucaslongolucasksenha7827 man I love that song ❤

[@TheLegendarySkeletron]

Too bad he lost doom wing and all the doom abilities after you beat doom, (not in game just canonically) but theres no way sega is gonna waste this goated moveset for shadow in future titles

[@Senketsujin]

He only had one chaos emerald, and it was just to use Chaos Control until he gave it back at the end so Sonic could beat Time Eater.

[@Seeyou45]

Technically he doesn't need an Emerald to do so. He has his own internal Chaos energy supply but the Emerald makes it so much easier.

[@Senketsujin]

@Seeyou45 that is true. Him and sonic can use it without the emeralds

[@DoomSlayer-gj8qb]

@@Seeyou45I think he needs the emerald to stop time but not to teleport

[@FunkeDaMonke]

@@Senketsujinsonic does not have chaos energy inside him.

[@goggles8750]

​@@Seeyou45 its stated some where he needs the emerald for chaos controll

[@E15Nigma243]

But playing as Super Shadow in the next game is a necessity we can’t let 06 be his last appearance

[@dayvonlouis5187]

On a technicality He is in speed battle but you’re goddamn right it’s been almost 20 years

[@Sonario648]

At this point, yes, we totally can. Shadow should get his own equivalent so he doesn't have to rely on having the Chaos Emeralds. ....How about removing his inhibiter rings?

[@E15Nigma243]

@ Although I disagree with leaving Super Shadow entirely, the inhibitor ring needs to be a thing

[@Sonic-hq9zz]

@I really doubt removing his rings is as powerful as his Super Form. It’s too draining too.

[@chocman5719]

​@@Sonario648nah, super shadow is cooler

[@Raincloud5137]

Tbh I think it's way cooler to give each character their own types of transformations, sonic has the Super Form, Shadow has Doom Wing, Blaze has Burning form, then you give Knuckles a transformation using the master emerald, you give Silver a psi awakening, and it goes on

[@Chara_Dreemurr1]

Knux gets Hyper. Best to give him to Knux because his last appearance was in Sonic 3 and knuckles... he's definitely gone insane since then from lack of use... but he wasn't used by Knuckles! So that'd be a fresh slate

[@AKR_ice]

Ngl I kinda like Super Shadow so I kinda disagree seeing super shadow is super badass

[@GagePlays]

He said coins instead of rings...

[@phantasmalpride7401]

Coins, Rings It’s the same thing

[@0vxx]

@@phantasmalpride7401No they arent lmao

[@monnetheepicgamer]

@@phantasmalpride7401they’re not the same thing 😭

[@Chibi_Rikka]

@@phantasmalpride7401 Good luck getting married if you're proposing with a coin.

[@FreakinSpooky]

Sonic writers casually increasing shadows scaling by keeping him in base.

[@Growingcrazy8]

We can’t have shadows with light after all

[@Deathy75]

Didn't you mean to say we can't have shadows without light?

[@siminyo8204]

​​​​@@Deathy75Nah, they just didn't word it correctly. It's a joke of sorts. They are saying you can't brighten a shadow, otherwise it can't be a shadow. But yes, you're technically correct that you need light to make a shadow, lol.

[@glauciarochelle]

doom wings is basically super shadow 2.0 and better

[@joshshrum2764]

But the end of the game is him breaking through to the light.

[@treyvonishere4375]

Did this guy just say “coins”?

[@BlackRose88-04]

Yes he did said coins

[@notaadamritm]

Hayır kardeşim. Kafanın içindeki Wario sana sikkeler dedi.

[@Bestmotion2389]

Pariah695 would be proud of him

[@Pikminenjoyerbunchofnumbers]

The original sonic sin

[@BananaMan3113]

Speeeedrunning shorts! Sonic has the emeralds

[@vishalaochar9266]

Good One 🤣

[@Shadow-i4f]

Sonic:i have all the chaos emeralds faker Shadow:don't need them Sonic:huh?! Shadow*doom mode*

[@OrangeAintEvenAColor]

Imagine super shadow with his doom powers that'll be OP AF

[@azure_500]

Bro the song u used for this vid is AWESOME...meteor herd goes HARD

[@val-tunas7349]

Actually the "Name" of that form is "Evolved Shadow". They showed it on one statue/figure in Sonic Central with that name... And I do like that name.

[@pokemonlover4208]

My answer: He only had 1 chaos emerald

[@DisappointedSonic]

Short answer: Because it wouldn’t make sense for Shadow and Sonic to have the chaos emeralds at the same time

[@Chaosmane95]

Sonic had the chaos emeralds, shadow was just badass and won from unlocking his full potential/doom powers. He had the yellow one but gave it back to Sonic after his mission was complete

[@mattarificwolflink9280]

Doom powered shadow would probably almost be on par with super form most likely

[@blainehauswald3070]

Not to mention by then Shadow had grown much stronger, strong enough to take on Metal Overlord who had to be taken down by Team Super Sonic the first time around

[@bokcwewhoruleall3326]

@@blainehauswald3070and for all we know shadows enemies could have probably gotten buffed or something since biolizard is seen with new mutations and such

[@elpepo0]

​​@@blainehauswald3070well Sonic beat Perfect Chaos without going Super like in SA1, so he keeps getting stronger too

[@blainehauswald3070]

@@elpepo0 that’s right, though it does make the win/loss ratio between those two hedgehogs erratic at best

[@elpepo0]

@@blainehauswald3070 the scaling between the two is linear in the games, when one gets stronger, the other does too, like Sonic gaining his new 'cyber abilities' in Frontiers and later Shadow gaining his Doom Powers to match Frontiers Sonic. Although we don't know if the doom powers were only linked to Black Doom's existence and if so they should be gone

[@Sixx7_OG]

DID YOU JUST SAY "COINS"! IT'S RINGS!!!!

[@skeletonking27]

I dont think people understand what doom wing shadow is. When he actually obtains doom wing, people need to know this, devil doom and shadow are at the same power level. Every time shadow grows in power, so does doom. So yes while technically, "shadow is just that good" he's also just taking down an opponent with the same strength as him. Sonic needs the emeralds to beat time eater because hello, it's a time threat. Theres nothing much sonic can do in base form especially with the doctors controlling it. Base shadow WOULD need the emeralds to take down devil doom like he did before. But because shadow also gets stronger with doom, it wasn't needed. Plus he doesnt have these powers anymore so.. While yes on a power scaling level doom wing shadow is as strong as super shadow if not stronger, it doesnt mean sonic was put in a fair fight. So stop comparing the two.

[@MalosiAudios]

Simple; Sonic & friends stashed the chaos emeralds, and there was only 1 fake emerald for Rogue to work with.

[@leonduncan3327]

I mean think about it. Sonic didn't even need his super form against Perfect Chaos unlike the first time and easily defeated Silver unlike their first encounter because he gotten stronger. So with Shadow with his Doom mutations, It's obvious in his base state he was stronger than Biolizard and even stronger than Metal Overlord. And he was even stronger than Black Doom's true form even his evolved enhanced one.

[@9-bitfox]

Shadow Unlocking his Own Super that doesn't Require The Emeralds.

[@bro-dude99]

Bro scaled up. First time around he need all seven, now he only needs one

[@arzfan29]

Not unlimited boost, boost has to refill, it just does so automatically when you stop boosting

[@HelloChick]

This is both funny, and so cool at the same time, so hyped for this season

[@soniboy180]

The reason is because sonic is the one with all the chaos emeralds during this game, shadow only has one chaos emerald the entire time and then gives it back to sonic at the end of the game

[@noxtinker2936]

Why have super shadow when we can have Venom shadow

[@dayvonlouis5187]

Its likely that like Starfall/Super Sonic Cyber and also the hyper forms Sonic team might keep that as a one off

[@herokinemidouri]

Plus Shadow grew stronger than all of them overtime regardless of us they needed super forms back then. Getting a super form for every boss he had fought and even for the inhibitor rings to come off against mephilis, someone he didn’t even defeat entirely, he only needed base form and a few chaos controls

[@MyWeirdFox]

I do like how they did decide to make the doom wing function differently in comparison to sonics super form though like for starters doom wing doesn't get inflation when they boost but they dont get infinite boost like super does instead it refills if you dont use it long enough.

[@thomashost272]

Honestly having a form closer to Dark Super created by Black Doom's power rather than just "Doom Wings" would have been so much cooler.

[@markmorris6721]

Because they are saving that for the movie sonic three

[@israeljrjuan2682]

SEGA needs to bring back Super Shadow for future games

[@Demothedark]

My headcannon is that Sonic and Shadow had gotta extra strong over the years. Part of that being the chaos emeralds gave them a boost in base power after using them. Of course, I got this info from the comics, so I dont know how well that translates over to the game, I ALSO SAY THIS because you rematch those bosses in Generations i.e Perfect Chaos and Metal Overlord

[@cadeshanley218]

I call Doom Wings Shadow's psuedo Super State.

[@Ultimodestructico]

So what?

[@peyplayz_]

This mf really just said 50 COINS.

[@Pack52022]

New doom powers plus if shadow ever takes off his inhibiter rings is a dangerous new buff making shadow quite insane now. Even without super form it seems he definitely has a good edge over both sonic and silver at least base forms currently

[@bimothybonetwig6059]

Bro beat Metal Overlord, who was an unstoppable monstrosity, without the chaos emeralds or losing the inhibitor rings, he's just that cold with it

[@coltblaze8114]

It makes sense story wise on how shadow couldn’t go super due to Sonic and Classic are collecting them

[@runningoncylinders3829]

It’s just that Sonic had them at the time. Shadow will get a go when the emeralds are available.

[@nibrasalchoufi3450]

Sonic collects them frequently. He used his super form 14 times while Shadow only 3. Shadow lacks motivation he has gone through a lot he doesn't care enough for the world to collect them and save the it.

[@Physicfriendfredbear-x1x]

The chaos emeralds were being collected by sonic, he only saw sonic once on his adventure

[@CrossKaizer17]

Except the unlimited boost is exclusive for the final boss only, you still run out of boost gauge when you fly but it regenerate after you're on the ground for a bit

[@Jonrocks7]

I mean he KINDA activates a super form at least in an aura around him in 2 different scenes (one being when he talks to maria and Gerald after receiving the doom wing and the other in the ending scene of Neo Devil Dooms fight)

[@jaysevandornick7434]

I think that they should have at least added a toggleable skin for Doom Wing that made Shadow look like Super Shadow. It would function the exact same, but I feel that it would be REALLY cool and a welcome addition.

[@Scrap_]

🗣️🔥🔥 WE’RE KEEPING THE CONTINUITY WITH THIS ONE!!!11! 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🔥

[@BeefbossZilla2011]

Shadow’s powerful enough now to the point where he can just rely on his base powers to beat world ending entities like black doom.

[@ky-maniblosser6567]

Just so you know,super shadow is also in Sonic Dash if you remember that game.

[@dewaynewashington9141]

That’s that space trip steps to meteor herd playing in the background knuckles had the best soundtracks on sonic adventure 2

[@ford427v8]

It's a shame Shadow couldn't keep his Doom Powers after Devil Doom's defeat, but damn, Shadow would be way beyond broken if he did.

[@Reaperkitty918]

Hold up, this technically means doom wing is as strong as super sonic.

[@dayvonlouis5187]

In theory he could be as Shadow himself is already stronger than Black Doom and while his Doom powers makes Black Doom Stronger to the point of where instead Devil Doom we got Neo Devil Doom Shadow is still also getting stronger by having those enhancements too and Super Shadow pretty much ended the original Devil Doom with no difficulty so Doom Wings Shadow _could_ be on par with Super Sonic/Shadow but that’s a bit of a stretch considering the power of the chaos emeralds are still superior

[@rendismowerto2481]

It doesn't. That's just gameplay because Black Doom is fodder

[@MasterofVirology]

The background music is Space steps aka Meteor herd from sonic adventure 2.

[@MrChrisChef]

Bet it’s in the DLC when the new movie comes out

[@tyrellrutledge74]

😂 I said same thing

[@Dr_F4zb3arR]

Sega wanted to give Shadow a unique form

[@derekmarquez9719]

Anyone remember that one sonic paradox video that explained how only one quill on shadow is yellow in super form?

[@UtSonicAM_1486]

I sure do love collecting COINS in my 2024 Sonic game

[@PsychoticBeverage]

I was hoping they'd finally let us control Shadow without his inhibitor rings, but Gerald says that if Shadow took them off while so full of Doom Powers, he'd just explode.

[@thatdey]

To be fair, Black Doom and Shadow are at the same level + Shadow has way more experience now He's just like Sonic, he turns more powerful every second

[@Hedgetube04]

Fun fact- The reason shadow doesn’t take of his limiter rings in the game is because if he had took them off with the doom DNA in him,he would basically explode.

[@ASIRREO]

It's his year that's why

[@OverloadedPie09]

I think super shadow might just feel too distant for the shadow campaign.

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

He already produces a Shiton of Chaos Energy Its obvious he pretty much can access a "super form" without emeralds, just not use Chaos Control

[@jarretirish7281]

Same reason sonic didn’t need super to fight chaos and shadow kept his rings on for mephalis: dudes are just getting stronger than they were in the past Even taking the doom powers out of the whole thing, if he’s at the point where he can beat neo metal by himself without super I can easily see him beating doom in base (or with similar upgrades with doom like we see in the game)

[@Luigi0909]

Fun fact: the last time super shadow was playable was in sonic and sega all stars racing

[@charlesbradshaw5183]

Honestly, shadows wing power looks way more metal and badass anyway. He looks like something on a heavy metal album cover.

[@Ultimodestructico]

You people used to make fun of this edgy nonsense and now for the sake of trying to hype this game you love it. Doom powers are lame

[@charlesbradshaw5183]

@ I never made fun of it. I always thought it was cool.

[@JJoeNeedsRetroGames]

Hopefully a DLC Will happen, Kinda like Sonic Frontiers. Maybe a Super Shadow 2 it’s a stretch, but we need it.

[@samuelsoares5213]

MAN, OBVIOUSLY SONIC HAD THE CHAOS EMERALDS, SO THERE WAS NO WAY FOR SUPER SHADOW TO APPEAR, RIGHT?!?!

[@MattJDave]

Sonic had six of the chaos emeralds, seven once Rouge did the fake switch-up. Shadow literally couldn't have gone Super Shadow against Devil Doom (and honestly didn't need to given his powers).

[@_Hero_Link_]

The Hedgehog was hogging the Emeralds

[@Awesomeash567]

It would've been awesome to see Super Shadow with doom wings

[@litavbarer-kahana5509]

Overall, it's pretty logical. I actually like the fact they didn't mess with the plot of Generations just to fit Shadow in. That would have just made the Sonic Timeline split much more complicated and for no reason.

[@RICOSUPER]

I was thinking about this too but the cool part about super shadow makes it super shadow 2 would look fire 🔥

[@renamamiya2279]

I mean, since both games take place at the same time, it's obvious why Super Shadow isn't playable. :P

[@musicman9263]

I haven't played the game yet, but doesn't Shadow generations take place after Frontiers?

[@Fate263]

I mean, I get it after understanding that Shadow only has that ONE emerald in his campaign.

[@primis2329]

Should be a fun Easter egg to find all the emeralds as a post game

[@zayjaxthefirst3309]

Because the game originally didn't have him as another main focus.

[@ThatOneFantaGuy]

They could leave Super Shadow as a skin in settings, replacing Doom Wing. But I guess they don't want us to have White Shadow.

[@jadenhall7938]

Out of verse reason: Only the 2 Sonic’s went super so they had to stick to that script while filling in Shadows story to make it fit in this timeline n make this canon. In verse reason: He had that alternative power up n it was enough to defeat black doom n Sonic already had help with his younger self so there was no need for Shadow to join

[@ultimatekarurosustar]

*not really, you only use the boost as normal, once the meters is empty, back to "low" speed, and can't fly, so better be careful and keep it in mind while flying over bottomless pits (I fell to those a lot...), however, the boost meter is filled up again even without getting Rings or defeating enemies

[@thebestgeekever]

I know it makes sense as to why, but still disappointing we haven’t seen Super Shadow since 2006

[@appl3jewelartz]

Same reason sonic didnt go super fighting every boss that wasn’t the time eater in generations

[@benelveloz]

Not quite since it doesnt fly he glides or as Buzz would Say falling with style the unlimited Boost is kind of yes and no it goes down on air but when touching the floor it recharges automatically and invencibility well that fits

[@ZeldaMasterLeo]

is it just me or is that the cutscene when shadow talks to rouge from the ark and when the time eater erases time changes the animation from shadow gens to sonic gens each time the scene changes from the ark to sonic's b-day party

[@deionpehowdy]

No Super Shadow? Even I Never Thought of This. Even if he didn't go super in his own game.

[@Fxmily8665xYT]

Lterally you unlock the doom wings at the near start of the game, when did we lose them?

[@Londonlink]

That background music though 🕺🏾💃

[@GiornoGiovanna-eb9kz]

For me he should take the inhibitors rings off, it would be even more badass

[@ryudameron4179]

Simple answer, the had to give him something new, fresh and epic for his return~

[@Needleboi1990]

I guess we aren't using rings anymore we're using CoInS

[@Sohailahmedmohammed]

“Why is Super Shadow not in Sonic X Shadow Generations?” Easy. Because he is in Sonic The Hedgehog 3.

[@JustActIdyllic]

i like how its tradition to treat mobian super forms like theyre completely different beings 😂 edit: typo

[@deuspalirroia]

It would be quite difficult for rouge to steal 6 chaos emeralds

[@Asafat777]

I cant just imagine doom wing super shadow 💀

[@allmightytony77]

Song is a bop, animation is cute. All is right with the world

[@sonicx2.0577]

The doom wings should just make him cappable of fly, why did he is invencible with them??

[@AgentNibbles]

Have modders added in Suoer Shadow yet?