What Happened to the 57 Players Drafted Before Nikita Kucherov?

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@GTRxMan
@GTRxMan 9 ай бұрын
Goes to show how nobody really knows who is going to succeed in the league. Another case is Henrik Lundqvist, a Hall of Fame goalie who was drafted in the seventh round.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! So many legends went laaate in the draft
@barnyaaard
@barnyaaard 8 ай бұрын
amazingly though, there were FEW busts in the top 10... almost every player in the top ten, had a good career from 2011
@tygod2410
@tygod2410 8 ай бұрын
How about Pastrnak who was drafted 25th overall and is an elite goal scorer in the league now
@user-kt8hf9tx6h
@user-kt8hf9tx6h 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, it’s a toss up really. Look at Tom Brady
@artursfilipovs4923
@artursfilipovs4923 8 ай бұрын
@@barnyaaard what about bustfrenniere?
@Koz4concern
@Koz4concern 8 ай бұрын
Your next video should be players picked before pavel datsyuk. 😂
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Would be a long one 😂
@wofescwofesc4754
@wofescwofesc4754 8 ай бұрын
2 full draft classes?
@Vladdy89
@Vladdy89 8 ай бұрын
@@beyond_thebench Would be the jewel in the crown :))
@Kshahdoo67
@Kshahdoo67 8 ай бұрын
Nah, before Panarin...
@jansenwilliams3182
@jansenwilliams3182 8 ай бұрын
6th rounder 😅
@robjk8876
@robjk8876 8 ай бұрын
Two big trades that involved Kucherov that never went through.: 1. In 2015 draft, we offered him and the 19th pick to panthers for the number one pick Ekblad, I think we offered a little more but that was the base. 2. The year we won 60 games and got swept by the blue jackets, that offseason there was a trade offer Kucherov for Draistl not sure who said no. I’m glad both didn’t go through, both amazing players but Kucherov skill, and drive is what made us win back to back cups. I been a bolts fan since 98. Lecavalier is underrated!
@yourdzh
@yourdzh 8 ай бұрын
By the way two Stanley Cups might not happen, if it was no Kucherov in the roster
@robjk8876
@robjk8876 8 ай бұрын
@@yourdzh hundred and ten percent agree.
@MikeHarvey-ol7xr
@MikeHarvey-ol7xr 8 ай бұрын
Lecavalier's between-the-legs goal against Montreal is one of my favorite Bolts' moments ever. First time I believed they would reach the Promised Land.
@myhighlights7758
@myhighlights7758 8 ай бұрын
Panarin hasn't even been drafted at all lol
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Correct! Signed with the Hawks from the KHL
@egzo8669
@egzo8669 8 ай бұрын
Look at Ilya Nabokov goaltender from KHL. Will be another big steal
@SaschaK28
@SaschaK28 8 ай бұрын
I'm just a random fan of a German 2nd league team and just found out we have 2 players in our team that are on this list! Ruutu and Lessio!
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Nice! Good players!
@Roacha9
@Roacha9 9 ай бұрын
Love these type of vids! Thx bro!
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! They’re fun to do - glad you like!
@Roacha9
@Roacha9 9 ай бұрын
Maybe way too many players, but what about Marchand? :D@@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
@@Roacha9Not too many! That’s a great idea
@tuckeryt990
@tuckeryt990 8 ай бұрын
I love these videos! Really entertaining, also thanks for the subtitles, english isn't native for me, so it helps a lot to understand some parts. Keep it going! 👍
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Thank u!
@aerocynix
@aerocynix 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I've already reached out multiple times.
@vladhook1434
@vladhook1434 9 ай бұрын
Я в Москве в 2011 Кучерова видел в составе ЦСКА...
@faunbudweis
@faunbudweis 8 ай бұрын
Nice, the talent must have been obvious, right?
@vladhook1434
@vladhook1434 8 ай бұрын
@@faunbudweis no, He was too young... And 58 place of draft show, that his talent was deep, deep inside...😁😁
@QuoVadis84
@QuoVadis84 8 ай бұрын
How on Earth his talent was deep inside if he was breaking international U18 records at that time lol 58th pick, well, the Russian Factor was really strong 10-15 years ago I could understand that talent was 'deep inside' with Panarin who wasn't even the part of the Russian U18 team
@vladhook1434
@vladhook1434 8 ай бұрын
​@@QuoVadis84 there are players who can at the age of 18 at the level of adult players, Kucherov is not like that. His games in KHL were not impressive at all. Thanks to Yzerman, otherwise it would be #158.
@ИгорьС-ъ9в
@ИгорьС-ъ9в 8 ай бұрын
​@@vladhook1434Айзерман, в отличте от скаутов, где много непрофессионалов, очевидно понимает, что такое хоккей😂
@yourdzh
@yourdzh 8 ай бұрын
Yaskin got big injury in NHL, and after recovery, which took about a year, decided to move in KHL, 22/23 season became the best player of a season, and took Russian Art Ross trophy Edit: 22/23 season he was in SKA, 23/24 - Ak Bars
@dummy7787
@dummy7787 8 ай бұрын
Lol imagine the oilers with kuch
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Would not be fair haha
@twintimeproductions8700
@twintimeproductions8700 9 ай бұрын
Nice video! Your next video should be about the players picked before Kirill Kaprizov
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Totally! Thats a good one!
@Zaharist
@Zaharist 8 ай бұрын
Gonna be way toooo long video 😂
@FalloutUrMum
@FalloutUrMum 9 ай бұрын
Often Russian players are picked low because of the process it takes to bring them into the NHL
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
There was a time when that factored in for sure. I wouldnt say that effects things so much now. But its something to consider for teams for sure. Especially if they’re being drafted from playing with a Russian team
@Dhemize
@Dhemize 8 ай бұрын
​@beyond_thebench I'd argue Matvei Mitchkov is an example of Russians falling in the draft because of the process it takes to get them over here. It definitely still happens. Don't kid yourself! Also, it would be 'affects' rather than 'effects' 👍
@yourdzh
@yourdzh 8 ай бұрын
Yep it’s still a risk to take Russian guy on a draft. It’s not a good example, but Ivan Fedotov was drafted by Flyers, had a great season in KHL, in a national team, and signed contract with Philla, but CSKA bosses just put him in the army for a year, and now he plays for CSKA
@debr4265
@debr4265 8 ай бұрын
​@@yourdzhwell now he's a flyer😃
@AVlad-eg3ds
@AVlad-eg3ds 8 ай бұрын
@@Dhemize, I would argue with Mitchkov example while agreeing with a 'Russian factor' in general. I think that his performance and his injury in 2022/2023 played a way more significant role in his overall draft position than anything else. And frankly speaking I think that he was still overestimated with the draft position his was chosen by.
@ariccua6101
@ariccua6101 9 ай бұрын
Top 10 picks: All solid NHLers 11th onwards: What happened.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Right! Haha
@supern1ntendo104
@supern1ntendo104 8 ай бұрын
Tomas Jurco (№35) is currently playing for Avangard in KHL.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Oh nice!
@HentragunGD
@HentragunGD 9 ай бұрын
this guy needs more recognition
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Us or Kuch?? Lol
@andrewsutton2266
@andrewsutton2266 9 ай бұрын
He is nowadays
@HentragunGD
@HentragunGD 9 ай бұрын
@@beyond_thebench kuch exploded. YOU need more recognition
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
@@HentragunGD haha thanks man! Trying my best!
@paolorossi8470
@paolorossi8470 8 ай бұрын
@@HentragunGD Who is Kuch? Ah, you mean Kooch.
@spancherBob
@spancherBob 8 ай бұрын
Nik Kucher 😎
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Kuuuuch
@мухамматнастаев
@мухамматнастаев 8 ай бұрын
Интересно кого б выбрали под 1 номером,если б знали о них то, что сейчас известно?)))))
@YouriBezugly
@YouriBezugly 8 ай бұрын
Кучерова, скорее всего. Он реально историю переписывает, в то время как остальные в лучшем случае просто очень сильные игроки, а в худшем - вообще никакие
@мухамматнастаев
@мухамматнастаев 8 ай бұрын
@@YouriBezugly я даже не сомневаюсь,что любой нормальный адекватный менеджер взял бы его ,но в истории были разные подходы к выбору...
@newvintage1554
@newvintage1554 9 ай бұрын
Just proves scouts jobs are like weather announcers
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Deans-jm3uf
@Deans-jm3uf 8 ай бұрын
To be fair there wasn’t a bust until 12th pick
@ИгорьС-ъ9в
@ИгорьС-ъ9в 8 ай бұрын
Тот, кто показывает хорошие результаты в юниорах, не обязательно будет показывать хорошие результаты во взрослой игре. Это так в любом виде спорта. Талант должен развиваться, но так происходит не всегда. Естественно, что шансы хорошо играть во взрослой команде больше у того, кто в юниорах играл хорошо. Но это только вероятность, %, но не обязательное следствие из одного в другое.
@volt7708
@volt7708 8 ай бұрын
Но Кучеров и в юниорах отжигал. Его рекорд по очкам на ЮЧМ за всю историю (11+10) в 7 играх возможно держится до сих пор. Здесь даже не вопрос почему остальных выбрали выше, а почему его так низко. К скаутам очень большие вопросы. Он положил две амерам в группе. Положил две канадцам в матче за бронзу. И все это за 2 месяца до драфта. Что вам долбоебам еще надо? Причем Якупов и Григоренко из той сборной уйдут в следующем году в первом раунде, а Якупов и вовсе под первым номером. А сколько его в Тампе мурыжили в фарме, пока слава богу стекляшка Стемкос не сломался в очередной раз. Никита - это один из самых недооцененных игроков на моей памяти. Причем абсолютно непонятно по какой причине.
@barnyaaard
@barnyaaard 9 ай бұрын
Best bang for the buck other than Kutch....Karlson at 55...consistently terrible drafting..Arizona
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Ya Arizona…terrible 😂
@samarchepas
@samarchepas 9 ай бұрын
Drafting is just the start of the process though,they might have drafted potentially great players but failed to develop them properly (as a Habs fan, I've seen this happen a lot)
@barnyaaard
@barnyaaard 8 ай бұрын
good point, I still remember all the talk about Beaulieu and how they were going to be careful not to blow it with him... well.. other than getting in a bar brawl, he didn't really pan out in MTL@@samarchepas
@algeborusas2775
@algeborusas2775 9 ай бұрын
You can do this with any draft year. Some players are on their way up and others are on their way down.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Ya definitely could
@BommyYabbadabbadoobadoo32112
@BommyYabbadabbadoobadoo32112 7 ай бұрын
It was actually a strong draft class, all players from 1-9 would upgrade any team significantly.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 7 ай бұрын
Ya for sure!
@Hockeyreview101
@Hockeyreview101 8 ай бұрын
One with Jason Robertson would also be entertaining
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Ya thats a good one!
@adilet2370
@adilet2370 8 ай бұрын
And I guess Kaprizov
@TheBoardandThebord
@TheBoardandThebord 8 ай бұрын
what happens to the 134 players drafted before Kirill Kaprizov
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Great question! Have actually had a few people ask for that one!
@НатальяЛаврова-м3л
@НатальяЛаврова-м3л 7 ай бұрын
👍
@robmyckatyn
@robmyckatyn 9 ай бұрын
what about Alex Burrows? undrafted. isn't a team in the league that would have loved to have him in his prime
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
That’d be a long video 😂
@PaydoggProductions
@PaydoggProductions 8 ай бұрын
Not sure why you made it seem Klefbom is active when he hasn’t played in almost 4 years?
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Fair 😂
@Mengha
@Mengha 8 ай бұрын
It's pretty simple...he played in the MHL. Anybody who saw him at the U18's knew he would be a star, but nobody wanted to touch Russians that hadn't committed to NA.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
For sure!
@NiimpaNii
@NiimpaNii 8 ай бұрын
Clendenind playing in Finland, no Sweden
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Yep!
@XxNoMErcY99xX
@XxNoMErcY99xX 8 ай бұрын
"Exavier Oullette" 😂 😂
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Ooooullette haha
@Chima4289
@Chima4289 8 ай бұрын
How many of these guys became league MVPs?
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Just Kucherov !
@VainoTatti
@VainoTatti 8 ай бұрын
Adam Clendening is playing in Finland…
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Is now yep!
@BoonHeavyHands
@BoonHeavyHands 8 ай бұрын
NHL teams fear of losing a first round pick to Russian league. No NHL teams wants to pick a player like Radulov & have that player just leave the NHL for the Russian league
@aerocynix
@aerocynix 8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a response. Thanks!
@bobmyself8819
@bobmyself8819 8 ай бұрын
Maybe the other teams put a high value in Character
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
👀
@MikeHarvey-ol7xr
@MikeHarvey-ol7xr 7 ай бұрын
None of them recorded 100 assists in a season. 😀
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 7 ай бұрын
They certainly didnt haha
@aerocynix
@aerocynix 9 ай бұрын
Hey man! How do i reach out.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Email in channel details 🤘🏼
@mrsvoyage
@mrsvoyage 9 ай бұрын
Lucky arent ? Patrick roy traded him in the junior
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Good point! Haha
@delilahknight6068
@delilahknight6068 8 ай бұрын
You lost me at “Huberdeau has continued to shine brightly”. 🤨 Why are you making videos on a sport you clearly don’t follow?
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
Actually, he’s really only had 2 really good years. The rest are just, good. If he can produce 65-70 points on an average Calgary team I think they’d take that. They wont be happy but they’d take it.
@КунгФурор
@КунгФурор 8 ай бұрын
По моему мнению, такие сумасшедшие результаты Кучеров достиг благодаря партнёрам: Поинту, Стэмкосу, Хедману и другим. Если посмотреть на статистику, то можно увидеть, что он больше отдает передач, но что бы было, если бы его партнеры были бы не такие забивающие? Сейчас в Тампе сильнейшая команда не только за всю историю клуба, но и возможно одна из сильнейших за всю историю лиги. In my opinion, Kucherov achieved such crazy results thanks to his partners: Point, Stamkos, Hedman and others. If you look at the stats, you can see that he's giving more assists, but what would happen if his partners weren't such scorers? Now Tampa has the strongest team not only in the club's history, but possibly one of the strongest in the league's history.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 8 ай бұрын
For sure!!
@YouriBezugly
@YouriBezugly 8 ай бұрын
Сейчас Куч тащит Тампу натурально в соло, у него гигантский отрыв от всех партнёров по очкам, это Харт в любой вселенной. Куч был бы хорош везде
@AVlad-eg3ds
@AVlad-eg3ds 8 ай бұрын
По моему мнению, Пойнт, Стемкос и Хэдман недосчитались бы множества очков, если бы не Никита. Этот сезон показывает, что Никита тащит команду, когда команда не хочет, чтобы её тащили и просто разрывает противника в играх, когда команда играет. Сейчас в Тампе далеко не сильнейшая команда, они с большим трудом попали в плей-офф и если бы не Никита, то и не попали бы туда вовсе. В общем, у Никиты будет забивать и дерево. Не так много, как Пойнт или Стемкос, но больше среднестатистического игрока в НХЛ. Другое дело, что с более слабыми партнёрами, Никита сам бросать будет чаще и у него голов будет больше. Бросок у него - дай боже.
@sheaandrus-oak6546
@sheaandrus-oak6546 9 ай бұрын
10 to 15 in the NHL. The rest, WHO??
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
Ya pretty much lol
@rewindsea9229
@rewindsea9229 8 ай бұрын
Gave up after pick number u ngl got tire of the "in 2011"
@keithketlo2096
@keithketlo2096 8 ай бұрын
The Russian factor most likely why he dropped so far
@AVlad-eg3ds
@AVlad-eg3ds 8 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Namestnikov and Hohlachev were drafted earlier than him, so... Nikita's strengths are his vision of the game and his attitude for the game, his hard continious work on himself - something that requires time to show results. That is the reason why Kucherov or Datsyuk were chosen so late, IMO. BTW, correct pronunciation for Hohlachev is with 'h' like in 'hotel' in both cases, not 'k'. And Yashkin has 'sh' in the middle, not 's'.
@norespect
@norespect 9 ай бұрын
Prowess.
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
😂
@yadamsurensh4003
@yadamsurensh4003 8 ай бұрын
Nugent Hopkins is ordinary 2-3rd shift player with average hockey IQ
@Ratchetti
@Ratchetti 8 ай бұрын
With 100 points last season...
@Odysseus38
@Odysseus38 3 ай бұрын
What a bust of a draft class 😂😂😂
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 3 ай бұрын
Bit of a bust ya haha
@bob-rob
@bob-rob 9 ай бұрын
This AI narration sucks
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 9 ай бұрын
A real dude actually!
@Dhemize
@Dhemize 8 ай бұрын
​@@beyond_thebench I also thought it was AI. Maybe put some more emotion or personality into it, less like a school slide show presentation and more like chatting with a friend. 👍
@stepankuznec6977
@stepankuznec6977 8 ай бұрын
Никого не знаю...
@LilNasty2Niice
@LilNasty2Niice 3 ай бұрын
He goes first 100%
@beyond_thebench
@beyond_thebench 3 ай бұрын
Probably ya!
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