What happens if you bring Jaheira to meet Sarevok Anchev | Baldur's Gate 3

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[@Abp.Mars-Assembly]

Lol, the party budget went to everyone else except Gale

[@ellohimeadam3852]

A lot more of this is explained if you actually get anointed as the Unholy. I got a 1.6% achievement for doing this so probably ppl miss it, but he goes into why he went back to Bhaal and what he’s been doing this whole time.

[@DeafSight227]

Can you write down what he said?

[@uhobme2028]

Imagine showing this to Throne Of Bhaal players 22 years ago

[@babythor9473]

As someone who played the original Baldur's Gate as a kid in '98 or '99 (can't really remember), I felt massive goosebumps when I saw that Sarevok's still alive and kickin' (same goes for Jaheira and Minsc). Btw, my original character actually got his alignment to switch to Chaotic Good, so I expected that he'd be able to change in BG3 as well, but had to kill him in this instance of the game as well. PS: BG1 Sarevok fight was 20x more challenging than this one, but he's not the "final boss" here after all.

[@jaykay1848]

im not playing bg3 but it looks great, for me bg ended with throne of bhaal, i smashed crom faeyr into amellysans face, sarevok became chaotic good after making the 7ft ogre strength guy realise what an idiot he was.

[@ValkoinenShiro]

I'm not sure I would like it, as I don't right now. There's very little reason for him to be there aside from a low-grade throwback and it doesn't even make sense story-wise. Still, the games and its graphics are amazing.

[@uhobme2028]

@@ValkoinenShiro Yeah, once the high of seeing them next gen wears, you quickly come to question the sense in their story inclusion. Nice moment still.

[@happymate8943]

From what I can gather there multiple endings you can choose in previous games and expansions. They seem to choose this route for this game.

[@sterlingwirth7931]

*i am sorry that you feel that way… old man…*

[@Crim_Zen]

I'm sort of glad they at least attempted to address how Sarevok was restored in ToB. It's a shame he turned evil again, since in my playthrough I was able to get his alignment to change in my playthrough. He was no longer worthy of leading and lost his status as a bhaalspawn, so he was pretty much starting over at the end of ToB. They could have made him anything, since the canon ward was good...

[@davfree9732]

Ditto. I altered the alignments of Viconia too, but now she’s evil again.

[@somestrangecircus5505]

Wizards of the Coast apparently set the rules and backstories for the returning canon characters like Sarevok and Viconia; those parts weren't up to Larian.

[@kompatybilijny9348]

I mean, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 had canon endings and canon versions of events. Even the MC has a canon name, alignment and class.

[@mattlee4618]

I walk in the room scan the room and hover over his name before the cut scene I had to take a second to catch myself this was awesome

[@nomprenom1342]

I think they handled Jaheira and Minsc perfectly , But Sarevok being a bad guy once more is really sad to see, maybe in a update we could make him good once more lol

[@ce5122]

Jaheira was fine but minsc just turned even more into a caricature, dude can’t go a single line of dialogue without mentioning butts.

[@JohnnyTsunami55]

Would of been amazing if they got his original VA Kevin Richardson to reprise his role. But he mostly does kid shows now😭.

[@Adanu191]

I would love to know if they asked him.

[@Zaxares]

@@Adanu191 Same. I was pretty disappointed that Jim Cummings and Heidi Shannon didn't return to voice Minsc and Jaheira, although apparently Jim had scheduling conflicts and Heidi seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth, no one's been able to get in touch with her. (Jim Cummings came back for Siege of Dragonspear, but not Heidi.) Not a slight on the new VAs. They've mostly done a great job (the new Jaheira VA in particular I feels nails her accent and attitude very well), but the new Sarevok VA seems to lack Kevin Richardson's undertone of barely concealed rage and menace for his original performance.

[@TzarAugustus]

would've not would of

[@csmith4892]

He did Grom for WoW: Warlords of Draenor, so video games ain't out the ordinary

[@Agul1981]

I associate Redd Pepper's voice with radio ads, not exactly Sarevok material. Jaheira completely punks him.

[@Marsproject11]

Wait a second I was under the impression that Sarevok kinda rejected Bhaal, or at the very least, found peace at the end of Throne of Bhaal?

[@zerogrey3798]

Far to many videos has convinced me that Larian just fuck it with the already established lore of BG 1 and 2. They threw in some of the old characters basically as clickbait,,, for lack of a better explanation.

[@toprak3479]

Most of the returning characters completely break canon

[@ValkoinenShiro]

Pretty much, and as others have said, the returning characters are mostly "bait". Jaheira doesn't feel too bad and I guess you can excuse Minsc, but everything else doesn't feel great.

[@happymate8943]

From what I can gather there multiple endings you can choose in previous games and expansions. They seem to choose this route for this game.

[@happymate8943]

​@@zerogrey3798 Aren't they're multiple endings in the previous games?

[@ddynamite3835]

in my playthrough of BG3 I brought Jaheria and Minsc to fight Sarevok

[@zerogrey3798]

Did Larian just say fuck all to all the already established lore of BG 1 and 2,,, cause it sure looks like it.

[@DRourk]

I'm not sure the designers at Larian even played the games. If they did, they certainly didn't seem to like them.

[@StarMarshal]

This is just Divinity OS 3 with a BG skin mask.

[@toprak3479]

This feels like they played BG1 only and went "Yup that's Sarevok, let's put him in the game." but never touched ToB.

[@happymate8943]

From what I can gather there multiple endings you can choose in previous games and expansions. They seem to choose this route for this game.

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

Larian was always a horrible choice to make BG3. OS1 was a piece of trash and I can't stand their weird goofy style and lame tongue-in-cheek humour.

[@doublestarships646]

I know a lot of time has passed but this isn't how he use to be lolol. Dude is just chillin now lol.

[@fistan5447]

I mean they literally brought the whole cast huh, a couple of them i understand but it seems even the villains are back. Sigh, Larian did not need to do any of this, they already created compelling enough NPCs. This problem plagues D&D unfortunately, once they create something good they cannot let it go until all feelings of nostalgia gets squeezed out. Like Drizzt and his companions.

[@happymate8943]

He's not the main villain he's helping the player to fulfill their prophecy. he presented his divine sibling with a deal: If they gave up a part of their divine soul so that he may live again, he would offer information vital to resolving the Bhaalspawn crisis. In truth, Sarevok wished to travel alongside his brother. Despite his death he felt he still had some role to play in the fulfillment of Alaundo's prophecy.[4] His sibling appears to have accepted the deal, as Sarevok appeared again in Baldur's Gate more than a century later, during the Absolute crisis, as the head of the Murder Tribunal in the Temple of Bhaal. The cult of Bhaal in Baldur's Gate was by this point led by his granddaughter Orin the Red, the Chosen of Bhaal.

[@kevind3974]

Also as aidon most likely was the one who was forcefully turned into the new Baal once there was only one baalspawn left. saravak was forced into service again as he has half of aidon soul. Aka they won a monkey paws game. There was never an actual choice as Baal would always return and drag his spawn with him.

[@DeafSight227]

​@@kevind3974Who's aidon?

[@kevind3974]

@@DeafSight227 that is the canon name to the protagonist of baldures gat 1 and 2. Abden urgen he was the male fighter Also as a bonus. This time it seems like the canonical main is going to be the dark urge male white Dragonborn sorcerer by the name of tav I know people complain about this fact but as the games are part of dnd lore there has to be a set canon to the events and characters.

[@DeafSight227]

@@kevind3974 His name's Abdel Adrian not Abden urgen

[@SimpleReally]

crowbaring characters into the story just because they were fan favorites in the past has never been a good move

[@TheSynthesizer64]

i just killed all these guys lol met the guards at the door and exploded them immediately, went into the room and spoke one word to this evil looking bastard then got 2 crits in a row as a Paladin and killed sarevok in one turn

[@Sestze]

"Oh you're clearly evil. Got it."

[@Crim_Zen]

You didn't have to kill the guards at the front. They die right as soon as the battle with Sarevok is over. Just shut the door so they don't join in.

[@TheSynthesizer64]

@@Crim_Zen i wasnt worried about them joining in, i just didn't like the way they talked and they were the first ones i met lol

[@nsxybfydasdvcifdy6477]

The only bad move Larian did, is this. Sarevok got redemption in tob, most of us considered this canonical. Sad.

[@kevind3974]

That’s still canon. But your forgetting something very very important Who’s the new Baal Aioden They share a soul. Redemption means shit if your forced back into service Shit luck

[@nsxybfydasdvcifdy6477]

@@kevind3974 Baal is Baal. Bane is Bane. No matter how they got back their powers. Bg2 charname has no influence over Baal.

[@kevind3974]

@@nsxybfydasdvcifdy6477 i never said he had power over baal just that he became baal you havent read the books have you. i got bad news for you man. sometime around the mid point between 2 and 3 abden became baal by force. it was a trap. the whole choice we had at the end of 2 was a monkey paws choice as their was a stipulation none of us knew at the time. that stipulation being the last surviving baalspawn is forcefully changed into baal. abden was the last surviving baalspawn after he kills vitken. dude turns into baal in the middle of balders gate during the founders festival. IT WAS A MASICAR you do understand withought that stipulation there would be no baal in this game as he would still be dead. hell abden would still be around. he would be around 60 in looks but baalspawn live to around 200 years. dude went into politics he probably would have stoped gorteshes rise himself while saravak like i already said just had shit luck. bad person to be sould buddys with

[@IndIViD80]

@@kevind3974 I still think that this damn book retcon of the game just to keep Bhaal alive is pure bs, cuz they did the SAME FUCKING THING with Myrkul in NWN 2 Mask of Betrayer where PC could just put to eternal rest a dead god what Myrkul was back then, to end the curse that he created so he can still have some thread left on material plane. But this time he just SOMEHOW resurrects himself as quasi-deity from fucking nothing. Why WotC can't do the same with Bhaal and NOT make absolute(kek) blasphemy what this damn novelisation is I don't know.

[@kevind3974]

@@IndIViD80 don't blame the devs then this is a wizards of the cost issue. they sighned off on the games. its there fault for going back on the deal years later for there whatever addition they were making then. plus who the fuck needs a murdur god and a fake god of death anyway. i get it the god of death in dnd is an agragor so it is nether evil or even well around/here (dosnt really have a body) but still who needs like what 5 god of deaths.

[@alexsolomon7991]

Too bad Sarevok fell off the wagon... but it's to be expected

[@XxRavenonxX]

It's kind of underwhelming, i was excited then went to meh

[@happymate8943]

Apparently he's trying get the player to fulfill. "he presented his divine sibling with a deal: If they gave up a part of their divine soul so that he may live again, he would offer information vital to resolving the Bhaalspawn crisis. In truth, Sarevok wished to travel alongside his brother. Despite his death he felt he still had some role to play in the fulfillment of Alaundo's prophecy.[4] His sibling appears to have accepted the deal, as Sarevok appeared again in Baldur's Gate more than a century later, during the Absolute crisis, as the head of the Murder Tribunal in the Temple of Bhaal. The cult of Bhaal in Baldur's Gate was by this point led by his granddaughter Orin the Red, the Chosen of Bhaal."

[@kevind3974]

Well what you expect when the person you’re sharing a soul with becomes the god of murder. Did he even have a choice

[@alexsolomon7991]

@@kevind3974 yes. Always. And even had the protagonist of baldur's gate one and two leading him on a possible path towards redemption. But he fell into obscurity after the Grand adventure..... Then fell off the wagon and into the spare and sure enough daddy Bhaal was there to pick him up and give him purpose in life again. So it is indeed true that Sarevok didn't exactly have the odds in his favor but he still had free will every step of the way.

[@kevind3974]

@@alexsolomon7991 ow no i dont think you understand this happens after balder gate 2. what your talking about is perceived by you but the thing is we know what happens because of the dnd source material. this happens in the century time period between 2 and 3 not during any of the games. aioden and savarak did win. completly and soundly but there was a hidden stipulation nobody knew about till it was to late and that was that the last surviving baalspawn was to become the new baal. no opting out alowed. there was no choice. viteke died and then aiden instantly turned into the new baal and rampaged thru baldures gate. pretty much the choice we made at the end of 2 was just a monkey paw's choice. there was no actual winning we were damed from the start we just did not know it

[@vaclavgembala6773]

Sarevok, Illasera, Sendai, Amelyssan.. OK, I am intrigued

[@BlackDiamond2718]

I like balthazar not bring here because he was a good guy but you had to kill him.

[@xchampionx9]

1:19

[@necrolicious]

Who does this guy's voice, he's also the voice of Shadowman, is it not?

[@Iqbalx1]

How does he react if he meets the Dark Urge who rejected Baal?

[@Jujstmeh]

You won't have fully rejected bhaal, yet. He will say though that you have been tainted and must regain your purity in order to truly be bhaal's chosen. Depending on the specific decision tree, he will eventually say he wants to see Orin dead, as you were magnificent, pure and perfect in the art of murder (and the only true chosen).

[@Crim_Zen]

He gets pissed, but you can lie to him about being evil and then he accepts you as his master. He even wants you to kill Orin, since she stole your position and isn't deserving of the "chosen" status. Note, when he accuses you of forgetting bhaal's lessons you can intimidate him and make him beg you for mercy.

[@KirkTacticz]

I just beat the game and this was such an intense moment like many others 😭 Game of The Decade

[@gymnodinium9]

tense moment? I am seeing all the contrary, its so underwhelming. And that doesn't sound like Jaheira at all.

[@LordRobaZe]

@@gymnodinium9 yes it does

[@chrishendry1031]

I had enjoyed Bg3 quite a bit up to this point, but what a garbage way to deal with Sarevok. The voice is WAY off, he's kind of just thrown in there as an "Oh by the way" when his presence in the city would be monumental, and they didn't even remake his battle theme for it. What an absolute letdown in every way, goddamn. I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of ToB endings too bad, but everything here feels like a cheap fucking knockoff.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Yeah imagine all the people that play this game with no context of the previous games. The pleasure of laying waste to these bhaalspawns.

[@kevind3974]

“Still tied to daddy’s apron strings” He Hera you should know he doesn’t have a choice. With him alive it means one thing is for sure canon. Aidon shared his soul. Meaning Saravak had his redemption arc as they tied their fate. So why is he evil? Jaheira you’re hiding from the truth again girl. You were there the day his fate was sealed. The day aidon became baal forcefully and rampaged thru the city. They share the same soul meaning he was dragged right back into service as well with no choice of his own

[@Soulsharkyy]

In one of his endings it was about him being conflicted and vanishing after he buried his loved one... I mean... He could be broken and Bhall (since alive) could just contact him in a way to make last use of his shattered persona

[@kevind3974]

@@Soulsharkyy true it could be that way as well. Ether way he was fucked. One way or another Baal was going to get his hands on him again. The gods like there toys after all

[@TheGentlemanGamer]

A lot of people whining that Sarevok found redemption in ToB when you had more than one choice of how to handle him. It's a roleplaying game with multiple routes through it: of course it's not going to be exactly how you expect it.

[@Crim_Zen]

Yes, but it feels like the canon ward they chose was the best of the best good character. Some of the characters still being evil, Viconia and Sarevok , seems off. They should have been redeemed due to the established canon character they used. Note you can spare Viconia in bg3 by knocking her out and talking to her. She spills everything and you can chose to finish her or leave her so she can find redemption, again. Shame you can't do that with Sarevok.

[@kevind3974]

No those two probably were redeemed but things happened that ruined them. Saravak soul is tied to aioden who became baal, thus like aioden he was forced into serving While Veronica it was a bad god who whispers sweet nothings, a bad life, living to long that she outlived almost everyone and aidon going murder god that probably broke her. A century is a long time and those two had shit luck from the start. Plus they only really Jaheira around. They were doomed. No halp and no choice made all that progress go right down the drain Life ant kind especially to these two

[@diegoaespitia]

more stupid fan service. Saverok is a mere mortal after ToB, a fragment of Abdel's soul. yet here he is, evil and at full power. why?

[@ce5122]

Sarevok was heavily nerfed going into bg3 actually, dude was a legendary fighter by the end of ToB.

[@MegaAngryspoon]

Sigh... why can't they just leave classic characters alone.

[@happymate8943]

Probably because they like him , so they brought him back.

[@adrianmoore2750]

Um.... Because I enjoy tf outta this. Better graphics and a new experience with what was a part of one of my childhood summers? Yes please thank you.

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

Sounds like the fucking 'Honest Game Trailers' guy :\ I could not be less happy about Larian making BG3. If only it was Obsidian!! Massive fan of BG1+2 and I literally hate everything they've done with BG3, especially that fucking turn-based combat.

[@TheKingProto]

Hilarious because a lot of people don't like BG 1+2 because of the extremely janky real time combat. But as someone who came in from playing tabletop DnD I much prefer the more turn-based or hybrid approach that more recent cRPGs like the Pathfinder games and BG3 have taken because I have always found older cRPG's combat to be extremely clunky and frustrating.

[@lando_ch0n748]

If you think Obsidian could've "saved" this game, you have NOT played or seen outer worlds.

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

@@lando_ch0n748 Different type of RPG. They did a great job with Pillars 2 and Tyranny. And yes, I have played The Outer Worlds, like 3 times. It's a good game.

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

@@lando_ch0n748 Pillars 2 proves them capable of making a great game. Never mind 'saving' anything. I wanted an isometric CRPG, like BG1 and 2.

[@lando_ch0n748]

​@@Molotov_MilkshakeOuter worlds was just OK. Which made it look good in the sea of shit that is most RPGs. BG3 is a similar position where it's a good game posed a masterpiece just because of the shit state of modern gaming. PIllars and Tyranny suffer the same problem as BG3 where the first parts are fleshed out and well thought out while the 3rd and final act falls apart as it ends.