What Happens if You Shoot a Dog (Legally)?

[@tvela595]

ATF: *nervous sweating*

[@mengx94]

No sweat*

[@wildcat8598]

You mean getting hard. This is like porn for those cucks

[@604cpr]

‘Qualified immunity’ and they’re feds, they got away with Waco, they’re not sweating over dogs.

[@tyrjohanson5658]

Winning comment!!

[@AWISECROW]

​@@RabbiShmuelShecklestienwhat's tyrannical about the ATF?

[@ThatMailMan]

As a mailman for over 18 years, this is solid information. It always sucks when dog owners can’t/don’t/won’t control their pets.

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

Have you ever been attacked by a cat in those 18 years?

[@atomicsmith]

@@thelittledetailscr7231sounds like you have a story you want to share.

[@ianbuick8946]

Can you carry while delivering mail? Not just ferocious dog but some other upright bipedal animals may want to rob your package

[@macriggland6526]

dogs are work animals, like a mule or ox. if they are bred away from their original intended purpose, they trend towards mental instability, nuisance behaviors, not unlike their emotionally immature owners.

[@geoffalpert3678]

WELL. BOYS WE FOUNDD THE ATF IN COMMENTS

[@shooteveryday1841]

Those CA judges who ruled that self defense can’t be against animals should read up on the feral packs of Pittbulls in SoCal that have attacked children.

[@jfruser]

I think you mis-wrote and meant that they judges ought to be _fed to_ feral packs of pit bulls.

[@Esper320]

Uh oh this comment will be full of unhinged poors soon

[@GigachadAKM]

The hood kids probably torment the dogs honestly.

[@GodsHound444]

Treat them better fkn weebs

[@firstnamelastname6216]

"feral packs of Pittbulls(sp.)... Are you serious?? Feral dogs in a pack are rare, pit bulls in a pack?... I'm having trouble articulating just how improbable that scenario is... The details matter. Have a good one.

[@TheLastArbiter]

0:45 a dignified way of saying “how the fuck is someone meant to research the behavioral history of a random dog as it lunges at them to attack?” I love it

[@EastCoastMan603]

Not so concerned with the dogs as much as I am the driveling muppets sitting in a jury box…

[@SallieSkull]

Judged by 12 is the saddest joke ever told. 12 people who are not smart enough to weasel their way out of jury duty. It's not even hard to find excuses or reasons to disqualify a person. Hell I haven't met a Democrat that can even pass their own Jim Crow test, it's like 6 pages.

[@vicdiaz5180]

Yup

[@HunterTN]

I was on a civil jury for 10 days, I will do everything in my power to never be in a position where a "jury of my peers" decides my fate. Several people spent those two weeks doodling, falling asleep, reading, etc. When it came to deliberation 3 jurists pointed to another guy and said whatever he decides I agree with. I had 15 pages of notes, most people had zero and just tried recalling things they thought they remembered from the last two weeks, often being wrong. This was a pretty frivolous civil case, imagine those people deciding if you murdered someone or killed them in self defense.

[@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330]

@HielNahblack = guilty

[@jcs6206]

@HielNah have you ever asked yourself if maybe you're the baddie? If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole... if you meet assholes all day, maybe you're the asshole.

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

We had an incident here in Arkansas probably around 17 years ago now. Small town. Someones wife was attacked by a neighbor dog encroaching on their own back yard. The husband eventually shot the dog where it ran back home and died. The husband notified the police, who responded and took a report and seemed to dismiss the incident as not a problem. Later the same day the patrolman returned on direction from his chief to issue a citation. Thus the long battle. Which only ended when the husbands attorney on the day of the trial happened to be friends with the Prosecutor discussed things before court and dismissed the charges. Couldn't believe it went this far especially in rural Arkansas.

[@2stroke438]

That police chief sounds like a jack ass no one likes.

[@MickyMonday]

I never meet a golden retriever that didnt need to be put down for aggression....

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

Never call the cops.

[@toast1012]

@@MickyMonday lol they are in fact one of the most violent

[@chazzcoolidge2654]

​@@bonnevillebagger9147Amen- I've had to shoot my neighbor's Wiemeraner after it attacked and mained my mom. She had to get 15 stitches.Keep in mind I live next to a gun range in bumfuck nowhere so no cops were called.

[@LKaramazov]

This country has gone completely bat chit crazy. To think you’d have to pay a lawyer against some prosecutor who pays no price for bringing a frivolous illogical case.

[@jcmartinez7527]

California purposely places district attorneys who fit their agenda and will defend it as much as possible.

[@nfaisnfgay]

Welcome to the Stein and Berg version of courts.

[@StrikeEagle784]

“Has gone”? America has always been “bat shit crazy” lol 😂

[@UtubeH8tr]

Bat shit.

[@wayofthekodiak3118]

​@@nfaisnfgayIndeed

[@TheLazyLabrador]

I like these legal breakdowns. They’re akin to “lawyer reacts” videos, but you favor education over entertainment and that’s the right move.

[@robertsmith2956]

I true teacher EDUCATES with entertainment.

[@AlwayzPr0]

a couple from out church were attacked by their neighbors dog, he shot and killed it. His wife needed surgery to repair the bites. The dog owners sued them and cost them thousands in court fees and time before they lost their case.

[@austinhuber3131]

Sorry, who won the case?

[@daltongarrett7117]

if attacked you sue. if say that was at least partly their fault for not suing first.

[@Montross4440]

Shame the lawyers are always the ones who walk away with the bag. 😢

[@nfaisnfgay]

@@Montross4440the (((lawyers)))

[@mhicaoidh1]

That's why in civil court you counter sue for damages and court costs. Sounds like your church friends had a crappy lawyer.

[@DeputyBean]

The thought of going to trial after a self defense encounter freaks me out more than actually being in a dangerous situation in which I would have to defend myself or others. I find it very concerning when you have to worry about going to prison and being stripped of your rights even when you are just trying to protect yourself or those around you. Odd how we call it the justice system when often times, What occurs afterwards is the complete lack thereof.

[@RB-wt6pg]

Counter sue?

[@taylorsopko5807]

That's why we have a growing movement of people that have just thrown the towel in and are ready to defund the police.

[@SoNotMainstream]

That’s why you don’t protect people who aren’t you or family/friends.

[@ShrockWPS]

​@@taylorsopko5807 The police aren't the problem though, it's the judges, lawyers, and misguided jury.

[@taylorsopko5807]

@@ShrockWPS wrong, the police who arrest you knowing the system is corrupt are all bad. they know they are screwing your life up and act like its just nothing, they are awful people.

[@davidfields2290]

As far as the judge's ruling on self defense only applying to other human beings, I would argue that we have more of a right to protect ourselves from animals with no questions asked, because no matter what PETA says human lives and safety are more important than animals

[@rockchalk06]

Imagine sitting there after a self-defense shooting, calling your preferred carry insurance/guidance provider and getting Reeves on the line. The sarcasm mixed with professionalism and experience would be a trip! Thanks for this video sir.

[@BirdDogey1]

Hey Jim, can I get a second opinion from Hop?

[@mhicaoidh1]

I'd wager he's all business on those calls ... no sarcasm.

[@RedHuntsman]

Might happen if you are from Louisiana. They have crazy laws down there. They don't only use the English common law rules-you have to worry about French and Spain civil law precedence.

[@BruceWayneOfOz]

'Can you Cops Wait A Minute!? I'm talking to James Reeves!!' 😊❤

[@dillonc7955]

I'm a delivery driver who used to 100% love dogs until one day I went to one house where a large poodle snapped at me without provocation. Injured me and I spent the rest of my shift filing a police report. My company's policy about carrying weapons at all is very strict so I look at all medium to large sized dogs with suspicion and still carry a koubaton after that incident. The dog owners play it as some silly game but as a delivery driver its very infuriating when customers don't take precautions to keep their dog under control when it slows our workdays down.

[@Montross4440]

They love seeing people squirm while their shitbeast jumps all over them and slobbers. They love that shit. They are deranged.

[@HunterTN]

We have employees that make home visits and they're issued a citronella spray for defense against dogs. Supposedly it works but I haven't heard any stories yet.

[@Myjungleloveoeoeoe]

It's the owners who are assholes. They never want to control their dog and think you're overreacting even after it bites you.

[@basedWisco715]

Tell your fellow delivery drivers to stop giving dogs treats, that’s part of the issue

[@dillonc7955]

​@@HunterTNSounds better than what my company does: leaving us nothing but a "dog horn". Makes me feel about as defenseless as a women with a r word whistle in a bad neighborhood.

[@stoptrackingourdata8158]

Self-defense is self-defense. Idgaf what you're defending yourself from.

[@muskratondatra8294]

Barney trying to r*pe you.

[@colt-_-jonson1743]

anti Semite

[@BrassBashers]

California judge and jury for you... They're either corrupt or incompetent.

[@davemccage7918]

At the time of writing this I have accidentally pepper sprayed myself 3 times, twice in the face. I now consider myself an expert on how completely useless that little can of spicy aerosol on your keychain really is if your attacker is determined.

[@BrassBashers]

@davemccage7918 what you can buy is not the same as what the police, their's is much stronger.

[@vectorbrown9134]

I find it really sad how humans have lowered their rights lower than a dogs.

[@Montross4440]

It's pathetic isn't it.

[@nfaisnfgay]

Because the Steins and Bergs that rule our courts think we ARE lower than dogs.

[@Myjungleloveoeoeoe]

​@@nfaisnfgayyou should stop blaming jews for everything

[@Assdafflabaff]

Exactly.

[@shmoop357]

@@nfaisnfgaycome on dude, stop spewing that bullshit

[@Andrew-jm4tp]

I would argue that dogs themselves may be used as weapons. The police and military use dogs as weapons.

[@matthabir4837]

And if you shoot one, you will be charged as if you had murdered or assaulted a police officer or soldier.

[@Kosher_Slider]

@@matthabir4837which is a bs charge. I guess we are just supposed to get mauled because it’s a po po pooch? Nope, I’m unleashing (pun intended) lead on the dog.

[@f308gtb1977]

Wonderful that in America you can get charged with carrying a gun, AND charged with having a loaded gun, at the same time! So comforting that we live in “a free country.”

[@mengx94]

Amazing that majority of Americans know their dog breeds, but in cases like in the video the witnesses have no clue 😂

[@foxtrotunit1269]

Charged with charging a weapon and carrying it charged. Sweet.

[@SH-zv2wy]

Not America, California; these are not the same.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Not in my state

[@762x69]

California isnt in America lol

[@Lorenzo-fw3gx]

I find these legal videos to actually be quite interesting and I really appreciate you going through it combing through the details. thanks James!

[@dargyli5952]

The main reason I got my CPL was because nine years ago my 4 year old daughter was attacked by a pitbull(she is fine, and I didn't press charges on the owner). I was 20 yards away. It was the most terrifying moment of my life. I've never felt so helpless.

[@Thekulprit92]

I was walking my 3 yo boy who knew to ask people if it was ok to pet a dog before he could pet it (on a dog walking trail), he asked a person they said yes, next thing the dog lunged in for an attack, luckily the owner pulled the dog back in time, my boy petrified, owner laughing, and me feeling absolutely helpless, never again will I ever allow myself or my family be a victim

[@Thekulprit92]

I was stupid then, but it gave me a newsflash right then, when seconds matter, there is no time to call police or hesitate

[@oceaser6977]

Why wouldn’t you press charges?

[@dargyli5952]

@@oceaser6977 my daughter was ok and they ended up getting rid of the dog shortly after. I saw no benefit besides punishment. I chose to forgive and move on.

[@oceaser6977]

@@dargyli5952 that’s very decent of you

[@JTrox]

If former under cover officers cannot conceal carry in CA, then who can carry? I will keep my bottom here in NC.

[@NCrdwlf]

Same !

[@Darjan_Spasojevic]

Same. Eastern NC

[@SAGCTU]

Because you need to do the leg work. I've had a CCW for years in California with no LEO experience. You can't assume your former profession gives you more rights than the average citizen. A former LEO dhould know better but likely got a pass at some point and rolled with it. It's way easier these days in Cali to get a CCW in certain counties

[@Happyheartmatt]

@@SAGCTUthank you

[@ncbrothad]

Triangle here. Loving Nc

[@777SFINN777]

Ridiculous! And when you said that judge didn't consider self defense as person vs animal. Also blows my mind.

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

100% guaranteed that judge is involved in child sex trafficking.

[@GigachadAKM]

Activist scumbag judge

[@xenosayain1506]

Very insightful. Im still stuck on the first case. how could self defense not apply to an animal? Where i lived as a kid, a woman down the road got mauled by a mastiff that got out of it's yard. She didn't stand a chance. Since when does self defense not apply to any being, human or animal attacking someone?!

[@peterk2455]

When politicians are elected as judges

[@Thekulprit92]

I believe those lawyers need to first define "offensive actions" before they try to redefine self defense laws

[@larrnew]

@@peterk2455and when idiots are voted in as politicians…😜

[@jzxwannabe2685]

This is scary. As a dog owner in a neighborhood filled with other dog owners, I’m well aware of how many people out there are irresponsible dog owners. I was also chased by a large Rottweiler when I was in my late teens, so I personally know the fear that comes from the idea that you’re about to have teeth sink into your calf or hamstring.

[@iels7346]

I'm a plumber and go in and out of homes all day. I had to snap on a customer about a year ago. She had a pit in her basement that she said doesn't play well with new people. I had to go into her basement. I should have refused to go down when she said and I quote "I couldn't find him down there and I didn't wanna wake anyone up getting the dog wrangled." I got to the bottom of her steps and this dog snapps, chases me down a hall into a room. I slammed a door on it, made this lady get he dog and refused to work for her and left. That was horseshit, to know the dog would do something that aggressive and send me down anyway just because she didn't wanna bother anyone. I'm a dumb ass for even going to her basement after what she said, but she also a pos owner to know that was coming but let it happen out of sheer laziness. Needless to say, she's tagged in our system and we'll refuse work for her ever again.

[@justinglock20]

People are fanatical about dogs. I'd be more worried trusting a jury in a dog shooting case than one involving a person.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

People love their pets. Humans, on the other hand, are an annoying invasive species :)

[@JustinCoxEsq.]

The fact that James didn't refer to dogs as whores as he usually does astounded me. Your legal analysis videos are top notch counselor. Also, Legal shield could totally run a hotline commercial mimicking the commercials of the 80s and 90s. You know the ones, "hot girls lonely and wanting to talk." Spin is its attorneys in full suits on a mahogany desk doing the leg flitter landline phone cord twirl. On another note the hotline is a step towards real, impactuful, meaningful advocacy for a client and damn if it isn't more likely to produce results versus the arrest and roll back the charges alternative which is normally experienced for those without an attorney on speed dial.

[@andrewmiller1761]

Well hot damn. Just when I thought Mr. Reeves couldn't get any better. He starts schooling us on how to properly defend ourselves legally. Bravo, sir. Thank you for these awesome videos

[@bdub0983]

Those attorneys fees that aren't going to be covered by something like uscca. Because as soon as you're charged with a crime, uscca can (and will) deny coverage

[@Jonesy_Ripley]

Seriously...?

[@El_Kalvoda]

​@@Jonesy_RipleyYes, Seriously. Use a lawyer retainer instead. They will defend you absolutely no matter what.

[@bdub0983]

@@Jonesy_Ripley yes, it's right there on their website under their self defense liability policy. If you didn't catch it the first round you can go back and look for it. Click membership then click "start membership" scroll down to below the big "join platinum now" button, the blue button. Below it are two options, a membership agreement and the self defense liability policy. Once you open the PDF go down to section 2 subsection B (exclusions) and it says so right there. It's illegal for an insurance company to cover a criminal act. So as soon as you're charged with a crime your fucked. They try and make it seem like that's what they cover, using sneaky language, but it's right there in the fine print

[@23Butanedione]

I’m so glad you are my lawyer, thank you for the never ending legal advice

[@mediamonk100]

Thank you for this info James. I have a neighbor with a aggressive Pit Bull that gets loose now and then. My little girls are scared to play in the front yard now. Appreciate this video very much.

[@jimvargaco.6344]

The law in many states is different if the loose dog is on your property

[@michaelhenderson469]

My poor brother shot a dog that was loose and had a history of biting. His initial charge was aggravated animal cruelty. After hiring a lawyer, the case was thrown out.

[@danielcisco]

Always carry pepper spray especially if you walk a dog.

[@hourbee5535]

Stand your ground laws apply to aggressive dogs too, right? Right?

[@JTrox]

Does CA have stand your ground laws?

[@SallieSkull]

Can you sue the local police for killing your dog in a wrongful death suit. (Neighbors were bad guys bussed in from Texas border, cops kicked in your door and murdered family pet because GPS gave your home as neighbors home). Can you sue the county for killing family pet in front of your daughter?

[@Treblaine]

There's no such thing as stand your ground laws, only the ABSENCE of any unconstitutional "mandate to retreat" laws. Such mandates may be on the books, they may be considered constitutional but they aren't.

[@jonathansmith7306]

​@@SallieSkullask a lawyer, not KZbin comments section

[@SallieSkull]

@@jonathansmith7306 James himself is a lawyer, and his fans are 70-90yr old retired cops. George Floyd type choke a guy on the ground kinda cops. So,I'm in the right place.

[@RazorBrain1]

In most states, nothing will happen. Especially if the dog is acting aggressively. Pets are considered property. The only thing you need to be sure of is that you don't discharge a firearm illegally. That's far more likely to get you a jail sentence than killing a dog.

[@bobbybritoful]

Dear James, Thank You! Very timely and topical subject as I was actually there in the first video you referenced in your video samples (Miami Beach). Excellent review as I considered all of the options you mentioned (as well as each relevant consequence 🥹, legal and otherwise) in this ordeal. It was an incredibly chaotic situation as a Pitt-bull has just snuck up and clamped ‘jaw locked’ on my buddy’s dog whom was crying for dear life in the most terrifying, high pitched screeching scream you could imagine. In the process of helping to get the Pitt to release 2 of us we’re bitten in the ordeal…As it was not my Dog and I was not initially attacked I reasoned that I would not have been justified in any more lethal response but Boy, we’ve debated and considered all of the above since then. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on this, it was quite instructive!!!

[@czwarty7878]

certified pitbull moment

[@thomaszimmerman8682]

Dude thank you for this! I just bought a house in an “up & coming neighborhood” (aka, everyone has a pitbull so the houses are cheap). I’ve wondered what would happen to me if I had to protect my lil pooch from one of these wild ass monsters. Thanks for this, the info is really helpful!

[@GodsHound444]

Make sure to wipe your tears before you wipe your ass snowflake

[@pdbnc]

Manages to throw shade at the Springfield XD even during a legal lecture. Respecc.

[@johndilday1846]

You never know James, as a client of Lawshield, you could be my lawyer some day! Thanks for the video. I have had more sketchy encounters with dogs than people, and this seems like a possibility. You can reason with people, but you can’t reason with a dog.

[@richardgates5786]

These videos are great, please keep covering stuff like this.

[@mortem-tyrannis]

100 years ago being judged by a jury of my peers would be comforting to an extent, now it's like being judged by indoctrinated morons in love with their chains and the actual judge is most of the time worse than the jury ignoring the law and going off personal views.

[@Rejoice.]

Yeah I mean, unless you were black a 100 years ago 💀

[@mortem-tyrannis]

@@Rejoice. yeah that would have been bad depending on where you were, but I'd take that over today's insanity

[@danielbeck9191]

I chuckled when you related the testimony of the "witnesses" to the Lee shooting case----were these people even in the same county when this occurred???? I remember Vincent Bugliosi saying much the same thing about "eyewitness testimony" when he was interviewed about the La Bianca--Tate murders trials. THANK YOU for your interesting and informative videos!

[@paulstevens7528]

A shooting of a dog in Nashville, a couple months or so ago, stirred some people up after a "witness" met reporters from local TV stations at the scene and told them what happened. From the statements to those reporters, the "witness" seemed to think the location was 8 or 9 miles from where it actually was. The "witness" also claimed the man that shot the dog was cocking his handgun (a .380 semi-auto pistol) between each shot, and her count of the rounds fired was at least twice what police told a reporter had been fired in the incident. A few days later, a local news report quoted police as saying that none of the witnesses interviewed by police had actually seen the shooting.

[@dvonehrlich]

Would this play out similarly if you used a knife to kill or seriously injure a dog in self defense? Not getting into all the different knife laws from every jurisdiction but assuming that it is legal to carry an edged implement instead of discharging a firearm it might avoid serious charges. Not that I want to get into a knife fight with anything I always carry OC with my handgun but just curious.

[@thistles]

It would certainly help prevent charges related to carrying a gun/loaded gun and endangering the public. Stray bullets are scarier than a stray stab 🤷‍♀️

[@sk8erdude872]

The gun community is lucky to have you on our side. Thank you for everything you do.

[@onthespiral4054]

No cat ever called me a BARK BARK

[@sieve5]

Hey James! My friend told me he saw you in Indianapolis recently! Glad to hear you stopped by Upland that's a great brewery.

[@tudyk21]

Former TX governor Rick Perry shot a coyote while jogging with his dog. Ruger released a commemorative pistol in homage.

[@NiNeGTuRN]

Didn’t know you worked for us law shield man. That’s cool dude. Been a member for over 4years now, I pay for me and my wife. I signed up after I got my ccw. I Never needed you guys yet. But everyday, I’m very pleased to know you guys got my back. 💯 Hopefully I never need you in a dog case man. 😂😂😂

[@Y34RZERO]

I live in rural Louisiana and man I always have to deal with random dogs, especially if I'm on a bicycle. I go on long rides between towns and even across my Parish so I'm usually alone for the most part. Thankfully I haven't had to shoot any, but one time was close was when I was riding my bike uphill in the middle of nowhere on a highway, no houses or anything and a group of dogs were aggressive. That was a tense few minutes of me going up the hill using my bike as a shield between me and the dogs. Eventually I got enough distance and a downhill descent to get away fast enough. I couldn't outrun them on my bicycle going up hill.

[@allenc4909]

How do those stray dogs survive with all them alligators in Louisiana?

[@vast9467]

@@allenc4909 alligators wait for animals to come to them, if they just drink from a river too small for a gator then they’re not in danger

[@kennethrisner8648]

I didnt realize you are an attorney James, This is cool. I first was with uscca for a year or so but then attended a seminar with U.S. Law about 5 years ago, switched on the spot and have been with them ever since

[@catharsis89]

James - almost every tort from before like 1900 has "trespass" or "trespass on the case" as the cause of action. This is because lawyers before 1900 were mostly apprentices who never went to law school and were too stupid to think of other torts or figure out what their names might be. When the federal reporter was invented around the turn of the century, judges started actually requiring you to state a cause of action instead of using a catchall tort and then telling their client to perjure themselves before a bunch of drunken farmers. Hope this helps.

[@JM-fb4kz]

Hey James, I really appreciate these videos where you act as my personal lawyer and give me specific legal advice!

[@JamesReeves]

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[@Dstev98141]

Good talk, Mr. James!

[@jonosterman2878]

James, can you do a video on rubber bullets and the legality and potential case law on it? In terms of civilian use.

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

Thanks for your work, these are well versed pieces of info!

[@Crangaso]

Tressp's!! As Ned & Uncle Jimbo says on South Park "It's coming right for us!!!"

[@slackleashdogtraining3598]

She is some kind of LEO right? Well she made several strategic errors: 1) She had no method of intermediate force everyone would benefit from having something between a harsh word and a gunshot she had nothing, big mistake. 2) She was apparently unable to prove reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm, 3) lack of marksmanship, she hit something but not her assailant, 4) she was in California.

[@jonosterman2878]

😂 that’s funny, that’s like the same exact assessment I had. Always use spray first, especially on dogs, and maybe also carry a walking stick (I know some places hate collapsible batons), only use deadly force when you can easily articulate a clear and ongoing imminent threat of harm or death to you or someone nearby in a situation you can’t retreat from (unless in a stand your ground state, even then it’s a good idea to just gtfo there instead, if possible), never use deadly force as a warning for future use of deadly force (lol), and last but not least, don’t live in Cali

[@fedbia2003]

Wow.. This is the second video I've seen from you. Thank you so much for all of this information! I'm absolutely looking forward to more.

[@romandavidmusic4315]

Can you imagine you just been involved in a traumatic self defense situation and here come James in his 4” inseam American flag short shorts 🩳 to be your legal representation? 😂

[@glockparaastra]

Love these “lawyer” videos! Keep them coming. Greetings from South Africa. 🏉

[@soggycracker5934]

Please do not start digging up my back forty...

[@chrsjeffcoat]

I’m glad somebody asked about this topic. I have been thinking 🤔 of.

[@evenmoremax2540]

My neighbor has 2 aggressive pitbulls that they don't restrain (or even observe... they just "let them out"). They've charged me about 5 times over the last few years (and I've seen it happen at least another 5 times to others in the neighborhood... including delivery guys that will eventually just take my house off of their route) and I finally had enough and started calling the sheriff when I saw it happening. It took three separate events before they were even ticketed. Even after that, the neighbors did 100% of nothing to control their dogs _until_ I put up security cameras. Suddenly there was a new need in their minds to install an invisible fence (which I don't think is going to work on its own) and start using chains and leashes. Even after all of that... the guy is now fighting the ticket. He has a bench trail scheduled for 8:45a on December 21st... So now I'm waiting for a summons to show up, a few days before Christmas, because I may have to testify against this guy when he tells whatever lies to the court (we wasn't even home when it happened... his kid let the dog out). Anyhow... I'm about done with warnings and assuming that today isn't the day the dogs are going to actually bite me.

[@Montross4440]

Shoot Shovel Shut up

[@Sig_P229]

Sue for private nuisance to your property. You can’t be outdoors on your own land because of their acts or omission to act. Water tight case. A reasonable person does not fear their yard because of the neighbors

[@evenmoremax2540]

@@Sig_P229 This is a rented house. It's not worth the legal expense to do all of that if the cameras, tickets, and other clear deterrents don't work. I'll just move. My job situation could force that at any time anyhow (which is one of the reasons I let this slide as long as I did... and shouldn't have). It's also worth mentioning that no one else in the neighborhood has done anything to remedy this situation either and I've seen those dogs go after their kids. They'd apparently rather let their kids get mauled than even be bothered with calling the sheriff and filing a complaint. I don't want to live around people like that anyhow. Frankly, I don't want to live around people at all anymore.

[@jaynecobb3701]

​@@evenmoremax2540 Even better, sue the owner of the house.

[@evenmoremax2540]

@@jaynecobb3701 I may have misunderstood your comment, because it really doesn't make sense in the context I'm living within. The house I live in is rented. Suing my landlord for the neighbors behavior would just get me kicked out (or the rent tripled). If the _neighbors_ were renting, oh for sure would I be on their landlord about this. My landlord doesn't even allow dogs for exactly this reason. 😆

[@jaihawkins]

I have to say the second channel is just as good the first, thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍

[@BoSmith7045]

Self defense doesn't apply to DOGS!?! How the hell do so many idols get to be judges?

[@scoutrifle6827]

James, great info on this channel lately, and appreciate the lack of short-shorts. :)

[@andrewstoll4548]

Why the hell do cops get to shoot any dog they feel like??

[@Montross4440]

Qualified immunity. 😂 Special extra rights.

[@medula]

I found you through your shotgun meltdown videos. I thought you were just an insane guy in daisy dukes that loves recoil! Anyway, I appreciate that you are highly intelligent and equally a goof. Great vid!

[@MoneyShot_CM]

I love these series of videos James, great shit

[@jimbush8325]

Another awesome video from James, even tho it's not advise, it is good to know. Plus having a less than lethal backup is the right thing to do in self defense.

[@jeffbetts4254]

The attorney was a damn coward. But all is good know.

[@originalterrorsquad]

This video is why tfbtv & James are just superb . So well rounded videos & topics

[@igogun]

I've been watching you for a good while and through all the pew reviews, box openings of gun nutz, and over all shenanigans you talking about real court cases is a good look for you! I like this content!

[@sawyer4981]

How does a judge, a supposed intelectual, come to the conclusion that you are not entitled to self defense from a dangerous animal? Should send them back to grade school FFS

[@JimYeats]

Might be more to the story than this brief description we got?

[@sawyer4981]

@@JimYeats there is. That judge is a bitch and just wants anybody who owns guns locked up 😂

[@Florida_Man_Cam]

James, I love the channel and would be elated to see more case law videos. Even though you're a Noles fan.

[@Sig_P229]

I am shocked the grip safety worked on the Springfield XD. He got lucky

[@seth7131]

I'm still on the ad, but I can answer this! The ATF will hire you.

[@CS-xm3be]

As a LEO in a large southern city that is not a leftist cesspool...if it can be articulated it was self defense and there is no hard evidence to the contrary...it's highly unlikely you'll be charged with anything here. If the circumstances are a bit sus (no witnesses/no injury/conflicting account)...or your actions were grossly negligent in the process (wildly mag dumping putting others at direct risk of injury or death)...we'll more than likely confer with the State Attorney's Office before making a physical arrest. If it's a clear cut BS story...there'll probably be a one-way ride downtown that night. In short...elections have consequences...

[@HircineDaWolf]

Yeah cops get away with shooting dogs all the time. We are talking about normal folk. Laws dont apply to your cabal.

[@phuckyou6314]

Well said, but the last presidential election was rigged!

[@macriggland6526]

while it is laughable to assert that red-state politicians have their local crime problems under control, it is a decent consolidation to know that the boys in blue will take the civilized mans side in these proxy issues. still not sure if it justifies voting for them.

[@macriggland6526]

*consolation

[@nfaisnfgay]

Your last sentence - voting doesn’t matter. Literally votes aren’t even counted. Those in power get put into power beyond our control.

[@garrettboone4306]

Love the content james! Keep it coming! So refreshing to watch gun content that doesn’t reduce IQ

[@NoOne-zm4rb]

She shot the car. It could have been a person. It doesn't matter how much training she has. Shes a doofus and a danger.

[@marblemarble7113]

Thank you for pointing this out, surprised how no one else has talked about this considering how absurd it is.

[@AndyCigars]

Excellent stuff, James. Love your point about pepperspray...a great option if you don't want to go the full Monty. Cheers!

[@allenc4909]

11:15 Crime against morality 😂

[@DeepSouthEdc]

Bro, out here in nola I see people with agro dogs of leash attacking people and other dogs all the time. This is great info! Thanks Brother!

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

ATF trains on dog silhouettes.

[@tudyk21]

ATF trains on Constitution silhouettes.

[@jonosterman2878]

@@tudyk21 huh? 😂 why would they use a silhouette when they can just use the actual thing? Do you know what a silhouette is?

[@joemo1033]

Thank you for the great legal advice!

[@bpri9880]

So I EDC and when I go on walks with my wife in the evening there are dogs that are randomly doing thier dog stuff, one time there was a pit bull mix that snuck up on us from behind, he was literally on my wife’s heals when we noticed him sniff her leg she kinda freaked out as did I but we didn’t run or anything, she goes “what are you going to do in a scared voice” I said “unfortunately let him bite one of us and then a drop his ass” and she goes “really”? And I told her if I shoot this dog right now I’m probably going to jail, so yes let his ass bite one of us” anyway I turned and looked and the dog was walking back in the opposite direction. In short only shoot something that you have no other choice to shoot, let the dog bite you, let the criminal give you no other option, and don’t be a hero. We are not the police and we will not be given the benefit of the doubt for our actions.

[@bpri9880]

@Blippitybloppitybloop thanks!

[@stephenrosenfelder4452]

That Springfield XD line was savage!

[@Sig_P229]

True Story: Woman calls the medics and police (agency I worked for). Her husband was having a heart attack. Medics arrived and one cop. SHE let the medics in but did not put away her large vicious dog. Dog attacks a Medic. Cop plugs the dog. She did not care less about her husband receiving any medical help after the dog died. SHE SUES THE CITY AND GETS MILLIONS. Put aside the ATF shoots dogs joke for 2 seconds. Are we the A**holes? You called us. We try to help. Your dog severely injured us. Dog gets shot after attack. Thoughts?

[@Montross4440]

Dogs are mutants that we keep around for our own selfishness. They cause more problems than they solve!

[@elblitzb]

I know this is not legal advice, specially taking in count that i live in another country, never the less, the logic behind the pepper spray is flawless. We have to convince prosecutor that we dont want to be playing far west out there. Thanks james.

[@scaldedape6213]

The blame is on everyone who adopts an spca mutt and calls it their fur baby. "Hes my baby but he doesnt like guys, so dont make eye contact or any sudden movements. Also he isnt good with children or other dogs."

[@KylerLikesGuns]

This is a really good topic, glad you covered it

[@Ghiaccio-x1j]

A bigger question would you kill someone to stop them from killing your pet?

[@dandylion1987]

I wouldn't . But I'm pretty sure I'd have a reasonable fear of my own safety too...

[@lignorof8475]

@@dandylion1987if someone is evil enough to do harm to a dog or any other animal like that, to harm another human being it is just a matter of time.

[@migmag_9789]

My pet will always be on my property, so sure.

[@darklyripley6138]

Depends. Pets are considered property. So theoretically, if your state allows deadly force against actors attempting to steal your property, than you would be legally justified to do so. This however does not apply to military or police working dogs. If you try to steal a police or military dog, they are allowed to use deadly force against you…assuming the dog doesn’t get you first.

[@SallieSkull]

You can.

[@dwaynewalker986]

I feel obligated to mention the Velo Dog revolver advertised in a catalog circa 1890-1910 . Bicycles were called Velocities and the snub- nosed revolver was their version of a Hush Puppy.

[@srbontrager]

"Springfield XD, that's just a crime against morality" 😂

[@petesheppard1709]

Thanks for the spray reminder!

[@tsufordman]

A UPS driver once told me to "call my dog off" multiple times while keeping his hand on his pepper spray and eyeballing my 19 year old deaf and sleeping collie mutt. So yes, people can have very different perspectives of the same situation.

[@Montross4440]

Yeah right. 😂

[@JimYeats]

STOP RESISTING!!!

[@aikimechanic]

Outstanding info. I have a dog and have always been concerned about this. I'm all about your law info briefs.

[@SallieSkull]

Cops kill more dogs than.......what kills more dogs than cops??????.....cheese?onions?chocolate?

[@houseofhas9355]

Dunkin donuts sugar. And fried food.

[@Sig_P229]

Call a crack addict next time you need help then. Or just stop calling the cops or stop committing crimes

[@SallieSkull]

@@Sig_P229 You Are the Reason they invented RED FLAG LAWS. Internal Affairs?? They know of you. They've a file, on you. Bad shootings....I run a check. Good luck, these things get tricky in court. Did you say you need to call someone? I suggest you do that.

[@Sig_P229]

@@SallieSkull You don’t even write English properly. You are either not an American or you are very dumb one. Please stay away from the voting booth. Here, let me, speak way u rite English….is better for u???

[@immikeurnot]

What scares me more about the conflicting stories, which is a case of people simply not noticing and processing the same things, is that all of these people who are horrible at noticing and/or processing things going on around them all have driver's licenses. And we share the road with them. And in at least some cases, ARE them.

[@1xayekim]

We had an employee that shot a dog while working in the capacity of armed security in Oceanside, CA . He was responding to a noise complaint knocked on the door and asked the tenant to control his dogs barking and the tenant was drunk and argumentative. Our employee asked him to just please calm his dog down turned to leave and the homeowner basically let his dog out and the dog charged our employee and our employee got bit turned around and put about 3 rounds of .45 ACP in it. This happened in Southern California and it was pretty cut and dry. Oceanside PD basically congratulated our guy on a job well done because all the shots were controlled and stopped the threat. The homeowner tried to sue us for damages (dead dog and distress) and the case was dismissed immediately. The only true pain in the ass was as usual the Department of Consumer Affairs under the Bureau of Security (BSIS) who wanted to disarm the employee despite the police report that absolved him from any criminal wrong doing. That took about 6 months and cost us a lot of money because we were trying to pay him his normal wage while working unarmed until that was resolved so he was basically getting paid 9 dollars an hour over our unarmed rate for doing unarmed work (watching cement grow type jobs). Its not always the lawsuits that get you , its all the other outside agencies and nonsense that will get you in California.

[@82lowe36id]

Great topic. This is a possible situation that my wife and I face walking in our neighborhood. There is another neighborhood near us that has people that do not take care of thier dogs. They end up loose and in our neighborhood. These idiots don't give a crap about thier neglected dogs. Oh but they will be all emotional if someone puts a round in "fluffy" while being attacked.

[@flyoverkid55]

It comes as no surprise that a Circuit Court in California denied the defense the right to argue self defense in this case. Apparently, you have to be injured before you can defend yourself if you live in CA. Nothing quite like suffering permanent damage or gross disfiguring before attempting to drive off your attacker, especially if it's a dog. You gotta love that kind of " logic ".