What Happens To Abandoned Golf Courses | WSJ

[@smith5018]

This video does not tell you what happens to abandoned golf courses

[@frat9]

@@tron23058 spot on. How can they do a video like this without talking about climate change...

[@TehPhuzzy]

They should be turned into disc golf course.

[@RipperStudio]

@@TehPhuzzy Yeah buddy!! 🤘🏼

[@micah_lee]

I agree lol

[@edwardd.484]

Turn them into community farms. Local food growth managed by the community.

[@azdbuk]

What a difference a few years makes. I have never seen my course this crowded....ever...

[@froobin903]

2019: Golf is in a Crisis 2021: Golf "and I took that personally"

[@1stGruhn]

As someone who spent 6 years working in the turf industry... I can say the reason I left was because there wasn't enough prospects given the difficulty of the work. The only people who make a decent wage are the superintendents. Given the wage competition between the nationals vs the migrant workers... it leaves little for those wanting to be in the industry yet live in the US year round. Then there is the environmental impacts of golf courses... the fungicide toxicity and health impacts are serious. The runoff and over-spray can impact those living near the area (and whole river systems if incorrectly applied)... grass just ain't worth it. Then you have these folks trying to grow it in the desert... water is a limited commodity in those parts... the fungus and mold issue due to irrigation are a growing issue in what use to be a basically mold free zone.

[@justbreakingballs]

Literally a growing issue

[@murdelabop]

At least the people who want to keep the courses seem to be willing to put their money where their collective mouth is.

[@MegaMijit]

closemindedness is nothing to brag about

[@pilotjonas8]

murdelabop I mean this is The way It works in Florida, many communities actually own The courses behind their houses

[@PastafarianLemur]

Oh they'll probably bribe, I mean "lobby", local governments to give them tax breaks and other gimmes to keep their dying businesses running.

[@Vnprid3]

Mega Mijit how are they being closed minded?

[@AlexMercadoGo]

They may be putting their money where their mouth is now, but they're also obligating the generations that come after them to do the same.

[@Bruvmode]

One year later, because of covid, golf is absolutely booming

[@vforvendettaMA]

One year after Covid is over, golf isn’t booming anymore.

[@Nope-sq6dv]

It is. I can hardly find a tee time here in NC.

[@stevenc9207]

You are correct, it's booming

[@ridegriff50]

I miss pre COVID golf🤨

[@joshbenson8039]

Yeah because all that golf course construction is just out of control these days

[@alanvanasch4793]

Covid and it's lockdowns have been the best thing for golf. Since it's a no contact outdoor sport, people took it up when gyms and other sports places closed and it boomed. Can barely find a tee time now where I am

[@CCSkater100]

Well said, golf courses around me are super busy since Covid, it’s difficult to find tee times anywhere

[@jeffreyhuston2017]

Golf is down because: 1. People having kids later, young kids during prime playing years. 2. Expense 3. Rounds take too long. Courses should add more tee boxes.

[@jtlegionnaire6310]

Agree, I think executive length courses are going to be more popular, shorter and cheaper. Which are two big concerns for most people.

[@jeffreyhuston2017]

@@jtlegionnaire6310 honestly, more tees between 6000-5000 yards is what would help.

[@RChyshkevych]

What young people actually play golf for fun instead of an informal business meeting? Problem with golf is that it's seen as a rich people sport and nothing else

[@bowlagrits]

I love golf and I’m 30. Just can’t get out there to play with work and a daughter.

[@stanleyyelnats1313]

I'm 50 and just starting!!! I personally love it. Going today!!!! ⛳🏌️‍♂️

[@MrJohnnyb74]

I'm mid 40's and not making 6 figures. Golf is hard to learn but easy to enjoy. Anyone can buy used clubs, join a membership group and play for pretty cheap. I used to laugh and think there was no physical demand to the game but boy was I wrong. Great way to unplug from life for 3-4 hours and enjoy the outdoors.

[@ridegriff50]

Excercise for a millennial is sitting playing computer games in moms basement 😐

[@irbose9895]

If you suck please play behind me or let me pass

[@MrJohnnyb74]

@@irbose9895 Good luck with that right now. People are just jumping right on the course who haven't played in years without bothering to practice. The range by my house is PACKED on the weekend too. I miss pre-Covid golf.

[@chriscanzanese5063]

And now every golf course in the country is packed.

[@pathtobillions8070]

I like the idea of turning them into parks. Much better use for the land.

[@pathtobillions8070]

@Scott E I generally agree with the sentiment, but there are three issues with that. One if you watch the flyovers of some of these golf courses you'll see a large amount of the land is long narrow strips of land between houses which would make it difficult to build homes on due to zoning and the stiff opposition from current home owners . Also, with zoning you won't be able to build anything but single family homes within that land since everything else around it is single family. Third, if there is any attempt to build on that land the current home owners would most likely try to sell their properties and with a big sell off property values would retract which would cause the municipality to lose tax revenue. With a park the property values will most likely rise which would benefit them more than adding new homes.

[@pathtobillions8070]

@Scott E I'm seeing those same zoning changes around me too. However most of those zoning changes are in specific places like in small down towns or on large individual plots of land. Usually don't see them mixed in with the suburbs around me. I guess the local town would have to determine which would bring more tax revenue. Even having tree lined streets have been shown to increase property values.

[@pilotjonas8]

Path to Billions How is It a better use of the land?

[@scottcharney1091]

Affordable housing!

[@ciello___8307]

@@pilotjonas8 so everyone can enjoy greenspace. In cities, there can be a lack of park space

[@jimmyjohn8008]

The problems that people with money have.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Jimmy John Arizona is not that expensive stop crying

[@geezee769]

Golfing is quite accessible actually

[@shawnguinup6971]

People that work their whole lives so they can have a good retirement home are getting screwed on their prices they paid for their home next to a golf course. But I still like the idea of 18 holes and a park I'm a golfer make sense

[@tristanskipworth4377]

A municipal golf course costs as little as $11 for 9 holes if you can’t pay that you have other problems.

[@henrychubbs2823]

Tiger Woods was not big in the 80s and 90s. He won his first PGA Tour victory in 1996 and didn't go buck wild until 1999.

[@MrTimy06]

Golf courses in the middle of arid climate are a blight for the environment. Glad they're being abandoned!

[@pilotjonas8]

MrTimy06 not really! There is a forrest created in The middle of the desert in Israel and It helps The environment dramatically

[@bigredc222]

I believe most of Arizona's water comes from lake mead, and it's lower than it's ever been without much hope of it ever filling up again.

[@sidecar7714]

@@pilotjonas8 not analogous

[@bigredc222]

@vachief I've heard good things about charter schools.

[@bigredc222]

@vachief They are privately run, but they are still paid for by taxes, as of now the kids have to qualify, they are just using them to separate the kids that really want to learn from the rest.

[@London755]

Golf courses in urban areas are such a massive waste of space.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Thomas Nimmo it’s green space it’s good for air

[@MsEverAfterings]

@@iheartlreoy8134 But it's just grass.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Jackie grass isn’t a plant

[@yanzx01]

Thomas Nimmo not gonna lie I don’t think is something they lack in that particular part of America.

[@goosty17]

@@iheartlreoy8134 Green space? In Arizona? You don't see the issue here? The water usage in a desert just to keep a healthy grass in a DESERT?

[@KrosanBeast315]

1:46 "why would you abandon this?" There are several reasons. Golf is one of the most wasteful sports concerning the consumption of resources, it also is one of the most engineered sports known to man which makes it difficult to convert the land for alternate uses and it takes much longer for Nature to reclaim it. It's not worth putting money into something that is NOT a sustainable sport. It costs a tremendous amount of cash in upkeep and maintenance alone. Golf also takes a lot of out of a person. Playing Golf is a desert is exhausting.

[@macrossactual]

boy I wish I could use my town's taxes to pay for my hobbies!

[@Dog.soldier1950]

macrossactual cities invest in supporting all types of sports with facilities; baseball, soccer, football etc

[@sidecar7714]

What hobbies do you have?

[@alfredoalcantar8691]

That’s a private course

[@heather9815]

@@alfredoalcantar8691 lol yeah until it stopped turning a profit & had to be subsidized by local taxes... see timestamp 4:15

[@brentkozel1992]

Start golfing and you can!

[@zvitms7233]

Interesting, little mention of the cost and ecological implication of these courses - especially, since it's located in such an arid zone.

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Yes! My thoughts exactly! Not only things like water waste (and I’ve never really seen animals on courses), but pesticides too. I didn’t even know they used pesticides on golf courses until recently.

[@ahastar1141]

@@user-pe2yx9kt4e Depends on the location but many golf course actually thrive with wildlife.

[@Cutterman62]

@@user-pe2yx9kt4e Most, if not all courses out there use reclaimed water.

[@XxJERICHOHOLICxX13]

@@user-pe2yx9kt4e Getting rid of every golf course wouldn't even put a dent in the water issue in the southwest. The biggest user of water is agriculture, and it's not even close.

[@RChyshkevych]

Golf: a sport dying along with it's core demographic

[@forefatherofmankind3305]

Hahaha

[@larrytits]

Roman Chyshkevych: a brain dying along with it's core intelligence

[@RChyshkevych]

@@larrytits they don't even know how to use a computer

[@felixahelixa3233]

Hope it gets eradicated.

[@joshbenson8039]

@@RChyshkevych to be fair... they have email addresses. Granted they all still end in “@aol.com”, but they have had contact with the tubes before

[@writerconsidered]

This is about the most first world problem I've ever heard of.

[@proletar-ian]

Cities & states should buy the courses up for cheap and turn them into parks. It'd be far better for real estate.

[@lawrencehamm1478]

I agree. An old private golf course that closed in my city became prime real estate.

[@alex6439]

Ian Henderson just imagine what kind of beautiful park you can make with that vista and that space. Add a bunch of courts and rent those out and it’ll definitely be much more profitable.

[@scottcharney1091]

Affordable housing!

[@jonathantaylor6926]

Golf is a luxury. Maintaining an 18 hole course is an immense undertaking that never ends. No way should taxes finance this luxury, especially in a desert with imported water.

[@yugandali]

Absolutely, right, in a desert you want to keep pumping water and chemicals so that grass stays green! Don't worry about the chemicals, they'll show up in the groundwater. Makes total sense.

[@TechFrontierX]

Wall Street Journal Should Update this story.

[@Bradlee297]

Good. Now replace the trees they ripped down

[@IMAWESOME-ro2bz]

Cause no one wants to waste money like boomers did

[@TheDjci]

imawesome 1260 and nothing’s more annoying than playing in front of a group of boomers.

[@bigredc222]

What a ridiculous statement, think that through.

[@bigredc222]

@@Mistro07 He was talking about boomers wasting money playing golf, the way I look at it, most of those guys worked hard, and saved and invested their money so when they retired they could play golf or whatever else they want to do with the money they saved over their lifetime. I don't know what the hell's going on with the government, conservatives used to be against spending, now both sides want to spend like there's no tomorrow, the last tax cuts that helped billionaires make more billions were criminal.

[@ridegriff50]

Didn’t waste it. They enjoyed it. Can’t take it with you.😐

[@Sam89365]

Lot of truth in that statement. I have to have conversations with my parents more and more frequently on whether or not that they really need to buy that new thing or not. My friends are seeing similar trends too. The materialistic mindset is rooted deep in that generation. (For context - I'm 26, parents are 61)

[@guinsfan87]

Listen I love golf and it has seen a resurgence due to recent events but is anyone really surprised golf courses constructed in a literal desert are having trouble staying financial solvent? Golf is an incredible sport but we've got to recognize maintaining that much grass puts strain on the water supply and is a relative waste of habitable land

[@Hosz688]

Golf courses and cemetaries are the biggest wastes of prime real estate.

[@ItZaViBe89]

It's sad alot of people won't give golf a try. It's truly the most fun and challenging sports I've picked up. Nothing quite feels like hitting a 300+ yard drive I would maybe compare it to hitting a home run on a major league field. PURE JOY

[@sundog7094]

Keun Pruitt I agree. It’s the best game period.

[@x_x_6__]

@@sundog7094 best game? Seriously? Best at wasting space for sure.

[@sundog7094]

x_x muck off you knob

[@scottcharney1091]

BOrrrrriiinnnnnngggg

[@Nope-sq6dv]

And nothing more infuriating than duffing your next approach shot!!!

[@mixter7x7]

my daughter and son in law lived on an abandoned course. it was horribly mis managed and was not located in an area that would financially support the course. the course was a selling point for the surrounding neighborhood. they built and sold as many lots/ houses as they could which is only about 25% of the available lots. after about 10 years the course tanked and now the selling point of the neighborhood is defaulted. good luck trying to sell.

[@garydavis8213]

People pay money to play golf. People do not pay money to go to parks. You still have to mow the grass and care for it. At least some of that money is recouped by golf. Zero of that money is recouped by a park. A park will, in fact, lose more money for the town.

[@asaikw]

I like playing golf on nintendo switch ⛳️🏌🏻‍♂️

[@cullinhartle9016]

The issue is not the courses themselves.. its the massively inflated cost of memberships at courses in recent years.

[@lotto5742]

Meanwhile, the golf course in my city is always full of young kids and teenagers golfing.

[@buffaloben15golf88]

That’s wonderful to hear! What city?

[@felixahelixa3233]

Yikes..

[@dlvivlviv]

If you have nothing to do, you can go play golf.

[@dlvivlviv]

@vachief I know it, but I have to study, work, help my family. Golf is created for people who are not tied with everyday lufe routine.

[@dlvivlviv]

@vachief I am glad to hear that. I am not from the US, in my country it is considered a kind of sport for rich...

[@jamescusack6511]

Turn it into a godamn public park. Irrigation already built into the systems, bathrooms likely in place. It’s literally a seamless transition

[@surber17]

Maybe golf is dying in certain parts of America but not Columbus Ohio. 4 years ago you could get on just about anywhere and play. Now every non-private course is packed almost every day of the week

[@Nope-sq6dv]

Same in NC.

[@smithgraincattlesgc4940]

They make nice pasture farms with paved paths for feeding hay in winter

[@MatthewStinar]

My grandpa called golf "cow pasture pool."

[@jokotri2186]

My main issue is that they use an obscene amount of water, I don't whether it's clean water or waste water they use.

[@PatrickAndFriendsPRO]

ah yes, oro valley, arizona. in the middle of the desert. sure makes me want to waste massive amounts of water resources on golf courses.

[@treehousekohtao]

This doesn't answer what happens to courses that have actually been abandoned.

[@stripervince1]

The maintenance on a golf course is insane. The costs are crazy. I worked on a beautiful dual course here in Kissimmee fla. I did mowing, bunkers weedwacking etc. we had 20 workers on each course. We made $10 hour. Each course used 500 gallons of gasoline per week, at (2012 prices, $3.20 a gal) if a $40,000 fairway mower didn’t break a part, say a clutch for $1200 that week.parts for all the mowers, real expensive, sand trap machines, rough mowers, greens mowers, weed eaters all the seeds, chemicals turf stuff, shovels etc. all machines need small engine mechanics who don’t work for $10 an hour. Each course needs flags, cups, ball washers , soap drinking water, and a dozen other things. Then there are the golf carts, whether electric or four strokes need massive maintenance constantly. I could go on and on. People complain about $12 greens fees. It’s getting impossible to turn a profit. The expenses are just too much today...the hoa and taxes pay for a lot of the expenses and a lot of people are not happy about it. A nice course here in south Florida just closed, lekerika, been there since 1923. Developers are knocking on the door to build more dollar generals. Sad

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of this info :)

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Ugh, Dollar Generals? That’s disgusting, especially for a course that old. They should just let the land be. Doesn’t even need to be a park (an official one at least) as far as I’m concerned, with fees and unnecessary infrastructure, but I guess they would want to suck money out of it however they could. Also, Dollar General sucks. False advertising in my opinion. Dollar Trees > Dollar Generals Wish they could just let the land be or use it for agriculture (community garden/pasture?) or something. Wonder if they’d hike taxes to do that...

[@philrabe910]

Golf schmolf- What About the Water use? In the desert I mean, I don't care about that in places that aren't in a 1200 year drought.

[@garymcaleer6112]

A Jack Nicklaus designed course in Clifton, TN closed down over 10 years ago. Beautiful landscaping with a local airport adjacent to it.

[@LeftyPlaat]

imagine what stresses you out is the uncertainty of you own backyard golf course...

[@jaridkeen123]

Plant Trees!

[@scottcharney1091]

Affordable housing!

[@Zerpersande]

Free golf

[@TJBellamy99]

All the golf courses are becoming large subdivisions and shopping complexes in my area!

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Ew that sucks

[@joshuaadi2754]

Turn it into to agricultural land and tree reserves.

[@smithgraincattlesgc4940]

Joshua Adi they make nice pasture farms I know of two little that

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Apparently a lot are being redeveloped into housing complexes or storage lots :( it’s just sick

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

I totally agree though

[@J.QNobody]

No we don't have any water in Arizona.

[@capitalruben]

Turn them into giant mini golf courses. Duh.

[@diarmuid858]

Not 100 percent sure but I think giant mini golf is called golf🤪🤣🤣

[@joshbenson8039]

The best thing that’s ever happened to that sport is Top Golf

[@Collwila]

It's a global problem. Letham Grange in Scotland ( 3 miles from my house) closed for good last week after being run by members for the past year but they just couldn't sustain it anymore

[@johnalmond5444]

Well, that being said, right now the golf business is booming, COVID keeping people at home plus a good economy, more and more people joining private clubs, dues are increasing.

[@akeiai]

Answer: Do both. Redevelop the not green areas into suburbs The green areas will be an amenity for normal people

[@ahastar1141]

Adding more houses is probably something the people living around the golf course wouldnt vote for

[@silverbackgorillagang8906]

Just let them go to waste. Man, it’s one on Dunham Rd, Garfield Hts Ohio that was my favorite. Crazy.

[@Asianevermore]

Old golfers are dying off and no new generation... go figure.

[@zico739]

Golf is lame.

[@pinkpenzu]

Golf is dying just like its demographics

[@radar0412]

Most golf courses can survive lean times if they conserve water and simply downgrade to a Single line irrigation system, water the tee boxes only, eliminate fairway irrigation on par 3's, and start the fairway irrigation on par 4's and par 5's one hundred yards from the tee boxes. Kinda the Anti-Augusta National.

[@anonymouscommenter2278]

In 2021 Rancho Vistoso Golf Course, at the north end of Oro Valley was purchased by a conservation fund as a permanent open space.

[@SuperLooneyrooney]

NEVER,EVER buy a lot or property along side a golf course. I learned that lesson the hard way.

[@ahastar1141]

Broken windows?

[@chichan9013]

There's alot of homeless in Cali. Maybe you could do something about that...

[@alecnolastname4362]

Nah the Homeless can still be profited off of so capitalists have no reason to actually help them.

[@mscislawin]

What did you do about it?

[@alecnolastname4362]

@@mscislawin I give the homeless in my area giftcards to restaurants. This however will often make them upset because they ask for cash... for you know...

[@mscislawin]

@@alecnolastname4362 it was a question to @Chichan

[@ridegriff50]

Caddies.

[@BatMan-xr8gg]

The first issue is Private members. Make it available to the Public at reasonable prices and then you will get more. I live in Perth Western Australia, and every Private Course has public days and the prices are reasonable enough to afford for most people. And the public course near me has 27 holes, charges $35 for 18 and is full all the time. Very hard to get on and very profitable. Also 7 Golf Courses in a place with 44,000 people is way too many. 3 would be enough if they are 27 and 36 holes. They need to start thinking outside of the box. As said, the course near me, also has mini golf, and that is always busy with families, plus a very nice Bar and Restaurant. All making money. Now 4 other course here have done the same and are reaping the benefits. Also, have decent driving ranges that can cater for a large group of people, practice greens for putting and chipping. That will always attract people, who then have a drink afterwards, and that is more money going in.

[@logancrawley2634]

good thing golf is super popular again

[@joelcrow]

Sounds like the right choice... homeowners want to live on a golf course or community and players want to play... so pay your fair share to keep it. Don't ask the entire county at large to help pay for your luxury lifestyle choice.

[@ahastar1141]

Home owners and members agreed to pay more too so sounds like its a win

[@adiposerex5150]

We had a small course walking distance from our home. It is now redeveloped into high density ugly condos. The course owners made a good profit, I hope.

[@user-pe2yx9kt4e]

Yuck :( they could at least use the land for farming or something

[@commentor3485]

Disc golf is way better than regular golf. George Carlin did a skit on golf courses. But I think leaving them as green spaces is the best solution when they do close down.

[@TheJttv]

I don't like golf, but the courses are good for fires and floods. They serve an important part of infrastructure in many places.

[@mikeilkenhons8896]

Another issue that affects the industry... owners and companies that own courses who should not. I worked for a company that owned or leased the management rights to eight course. They ran all of them into the ground, used revenue from some of the courses to keep a premier course with wealthy members green. That company went bankrupt, with a reputation that was the laughing stock of the other courses in the area.

[@amishjindal7538]

Abandoned golf courses 2020: HOLD MY ...

[@davidbach7003]

The golf course behind my house closed last year. The owner stopped watering and cutting the grass. Now it is covered with weeds and is an eyesore. A few volunteers have cut the weeds, but not the entire course. Trees have been planted, but homeowners want the weeds cut on a regular basis. They have petitioned the county to make it a law.

[@davidbach7003]

@peter barlow That would be trespass on private property

[@zico739]

Golf courses are a waste of land.

[@KaiSosceles]

I was so confused about this video until I realized it was made before Covid. Golf is nuts right now.

[@calebreasons]

You haven’t really told us what happens to abandoned golf courses though. It also doesn’t reflect what’s happening in my city of Overland Park, KS. The muny down the street is packed almost every day of the week. People, young and old, are out on the golf course daily. This video should just highlight the supply and demand. Yes, it will ebb and flow.

[@namelast6982]

Should of planted trees.

[@justrandomthings319]

*should have

[@namelast6982]

@@justrandomthings319 Nee-naw Nee-naw it's the Grammar Police.

[@justrandomthings319]

@@namelast6982 Just take the correction and move on. Nothing wrong in learning something.

[@Dontworryaboutanything]

In the desert? Nah bruh

[@Dontworryaboutanything]

chancy319 dbag

[@siddharthchowdaryvunnam525]

Glad to know i'm not the only millennial who's bad at golf!

[@lwc2009]

they wind up as PG&E storage yards... a total blight on the local neighborhood....

[@hamburgermatty]

Man that’s a lot of water being used. Lol

[@MegaMijit]

they shouldve closed down half in favor of building a park. much more versatile better use of the land. stubborn fogies

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

Thank God plebeian opinions don't matter, otherwise, the whole country would have been turned into a big commie block.

[@MegaMijit]

@@1N73RC3P7OR thank science, christians opinions dont matter cuz theyre idiots

[@TreLimes]

They turn into Disc Golf Courses 🥏🏌🏼‍♂️💚

[@guerillagardner3876]

FirstWorldProblems.....

[@hackwilson1467]

Ok so let me get this straight. The people who want the course for themselves are going to pay more for it's upkeep? However the vast national golfer volume is decreasing steadily. So let's golf clap for having lots of money to buy your fun!

[@burnabyemergencyphotograph8683]

We won’t mind some of these golf courses coming to Canada

this aged like milk and the fact that these places are shutting down is good. now lets actually reclaim them.

[@malsprower]

Park with community garden!

[@barski8885]

Where did this video address the question of "what happens to abandoned golf courses"?

[@scottcharney1091]

Affordable housing!

[@zombiehunter1152]

People who don’t play golf are for the redevelopment, cos no golfer would vote for it. We just lost our local driving range to redevelopment this year, Unfortunately money over golf always wins.

[@7saany]

Restore them into natural habitats... they already take up so much space and are quite useless IMO

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

Oh, there is no golf issue....there are tons of courses where I live in Chester county PA and I'll tell you, tee times are ALMOST ALWAYS booked up

[@raymondg8672]

Ive started playing golf as a social distancing activity. Ive found its actually a lof of fun and Ive come to understand many new players have taken up the game in 2020.

[@buffaloben15golf88]

The municipal golf courses of Detroit are in the same boat. They’re not making a profit. At least not one to make the payment to maintain the course. However each time the vote comes around to the local committee every two years they vote to extend the golf course contracts. Why? The golfers love them. Ever since 2008 when the courses of Detroit first filed for bankruptcy, extend extend extend. I’ve played Rackham Golf Course outside of Detroit before and it’s an excellent course in excellent condition, it’s gone very much uphill in the past two years. It’s been in business since 1923. I can say with near certainty that it will live to see its centennial anniversary. The deal with Signet Golf Association was a huge help for the course. The course is open year round and is a melting pot full of all kinds of people. I’ve never had a bad experience there. I hope Detroit keeps it going strong! #RackhamGolfCourse

[@valtaylor2425]

Who was the reporter than created this story?

[@olivierauberger]

44,000 people, 7 courses. Need we say more?

[@will.m1110]

Why do municipal's need to "make" money ? When a town town puts in a park or a ball field do they need turn a profit???

[@michaellyons3643]

The worst course is in Wayne New Jersey the packanack course which is 9 holes and a dump.

[@michaellyons3643]

Sure why not have the tax payers for the golf course hahaha what a joke.

[@mwafrika4]

Casual golfers are getting out more so it seems like they're doing better BUT there's still not a boom in new golfers

[@youKnowWho3311]

Enter Covid, 2020..... A trend can quickly change.

[@DanBurgaud]

Let them KEEP the holes and maintain it with their $$$. If they can't put up the $$$, then turn it into parks. Bottom line: $$$ speaks.

[@DanBurgaud]

@Harrison Rands Let me put it in a another way: Assume I own a luxury $25M yatch but because of the economic downturn, I can't afford to maintain it. So I ask public to finance my yatch on the promise the public gets to use part of the yatch (say hold the anchor), but I still get to own it and use it 360 days of the year....

[@larmoran4885]

Mike sounds like he does a good Gerald Ford impression

[@dxelson]

1:03 jesus christ as a non american i look at that miserable land use and cry. No wonder everyone has cars.

[@GoodNight0wl]

I don't play it because I didn't grow up with it. Millennials grew up during the video game, and early cell phone era. Parents bought that for their kids, and that's what we like to do. You grew up with golf? Great, now you're 50 still playing. Same concept. But if you don't actually do those things with your kids, and push them towards that stuff, they won't grow into it as an adult. Granted, they might not even if you do push them towards it, but chances are way better.