What happens to San Diego State Football now?

Discussing College Football conference realignment with SDSU and the Big 12
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[@davidstephens5603]

Since the PAC12 is completely dissipating, it would be cool to see the west coast schools all drop into the MWC and eventually become a power college football conference.

[@roris5882]

There is no more P-5 because it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's the Super 2 Conferences and everyone else due to the growing financial and talent gap. After the most valuable ACC schools leave for the Super 2 Conferences the Big12 and ACC will be no different then the G-5 conferences. They don't have any football blue bloods and they all have small fan bases. The Super 2 Conferences, with the 40 to 50 most valuable schools, will probably just create their own separate league and playoff system so they can keep all the revenue they generate so they can pay their players their fair share of the TV revenue and have all the best players. All the leftovers and G-5 schools and conferences can create their own league and playoff system to generate their own revenue but it won't be as much because they aren't as popular. It's eventually going to be a 2 tiered system because there is way too much dead weight in FBS that wants a free handout of the playoff revenue that the valuable schools generate. Plus more schools keep joining the FBS every year. It's getting ridiculous, the Super 2 Conferences no longer want the bottom feeders leaching off of them if they have to pay their players.

[@equalizer1946]

They will remain in the MWC

[@randylochtefeld2806]

B12 is out of money, all the TV money is allocated.

[@kamelkadri2843]

G5 super league wouldn't work because the money isn't good enough to cover the travel

[@roris5882]

The Super 2 Conferences no longer want the bottom feeders and leftovers leaching off them if they have to pay their players their fair share of the TV revenue. That's why they are consolidating with the most valuable schools so they can maximize their TV revenue to better prepare for the inevitability of it. After the Super 2 Conferences grab all the valuable schools they want they will probably break off from the NCAA, bottom feeders, and leftovers so they can keep all the TV revenue they generate so they can share it with their players, the best ones.

[@paulmezzetta6905]

Big 12 has stated no interest in SDSU and SMU at this moment in time.

[@michaelwall3393]

The Big12 can’t add anymore schools as it is. SMU will never get in the Big12. Never.

[@brettrobinson2901]

​@@michaelwall3393Never say never...they bring the Dallas market and rekindle an in league rivalry with TCU...The Battle of The Skillet....

[@jeffmorgan9337]

Bring in C carolina,E wash , would have a teal ,blue , red fields lol thats gotta be worth something.

[@penaltybox76084]

and Boise State..

[@trewells]

#aztec4life We’ve been trying to become a Power 5 for years. I have my doubts that it will ever happen now.

[@roris5882]

P-5 doesn't mean anything anymore. It's the Super 2 Conferences and everyone else. The ACC is about to collapse because their most valuable schools want out so they can join a Super 2 Conference. The leftovers will probably join the Big12/Leftovers League. The Big12 is closer to a G-5 conference because of the growing financial and talent gap. Plus they have no football blue bloods and all their members have small fan bases, just like the other G-5 conferences. The Super 2 Conferences will probably create their own league and playoff system, after they consolidate all the most valuable schools, so they can keep all the revenue for themselves. Why would they share it with all the leftover conferences when they have no realistic opportunity to complete with them?

[@bayareadoghouse]

Fresno too.

[@billl1127]

Boise St, too.

[@davkatjenn]

I hope to God it never does happen. I am an alumni from SDSU and the only time I cared about them joining the ranks of the big time money grubbers was when I was a kid. I graduated in 1981 and I almost wish they were a division II school so that they could really focus on the welfare of the students and not just the dollar signs.

[@donjuan914]

Maybe I’m biased cause I’m from SoCal lol but I think the Big12 should grab SDSU and Oregon State

[@TheDisruptiveOne]

Definitely biased lol. Not bad fits. But no reason to do it now.

[@rumblingcds]

The reason to do it now would be to avoid exit fees on oregon state if u did want them. Plus I bet they could be gotten at a discount.

[@johnsprague5889]

Sdsu will get in a p5 eventually.

[@TheDisruptiveOne]

I think you can always get them for a discount. The big 10 is never coming in for them. The only thing that makes them harder to get in the future is if they join the aac or mountain west and that conference somehow finds a way to become a new p5.

[@roris5882]

There is no more P-5 because it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's the Super 2 Conferences and everyone else. The Super 2 Conferences will control their new playoff system, starting in 2026, and after they grab the remaining valuable schools they want they will probably break off from the NCAA, bottom feeders, leftovers, and leaches because they don't want to share their revenue if they have to pay their players, the best ones, their fair share of the TV revenue. The leftovers should just create their own league and playoff system with similar small fan base schools.

[@fakereality96]

Epitome of "Shoot first. Ask questions later".

[@matthewtolman5598]

Here's a noodle-scratcher: There was a time SDSU was courted by both the PAC and the BigXII, they chose the PAC and the BigXII backed off. What if they had chosen the BigXII? Would they now be in the conference instead of Utah or ASU?

[@billl1127]

Not likely. Any P5 team trumps SDSU

[@cjhan9816]

Marshall Faulk is an SDST Aztecs alumni to possible help this matter. Lol!

[@bayareadoghouse]

Aaron Judge too!

[@billl1127]

That makes it a slam dunk. Not.

[@Paysoncougarfan.7885]

SDSU has missed the P5 bus. Forever G5 they will be.

[@ReisterJP]

They didn't make it to the Cult 12 with BYU

[@JoeBurke304]

Could've said the same thing about BYU. SDSU will be P5 soon.

[@Paysoncougarfan.7885]

@@JoeBurke304 If that is true, then SDSU should declare its independence, park all other sports in other conferences, negotiate their own 10m a year TV deal with ESPN, try to schedule 5-8 P5 teams a season for 12 years and see if that grows their brand to a Power level. Don’t forget to get all of the other Power Conferences to accept a games with SDSU as counting as a Power game. Good luck with that!

[@JoeBurke304]

@@Paysoncougarfan.7885 BYU could do that with an entire religion behind them. Not many schools have that luxury.

[@MattLindon-wv8jy]

Lets be honest P5 is complete nonsense.....

[@donnie2832]

I think Boise State gets a larger share of the conference revenue. That’s something Oregon State and Washington State would want.

[@billl1127]

That extra revenue to Boise St was ESPN driven. The Mountain West holds all the cards here. Wash St and Oregon St would not get a nickel more than base pay.

[@donkraemer50]

When all is settled down with the conferences, are any going to change names? SEC won't just be the southeast. ACC will cover more than the east coast. Big 10 and XII don't and won't make sense. The Big 8 changed to the Big XII, but wasn't at 12 teams quite often.

[@therealdarrell282]

SDSU got their reality check that they are the “Little Brother.”

[@TheDisruptiveOne]

Mountain west

[@DavidValentine3799]

SDSU to the ACC .

[@Patrick-sg7cm]

The level of bafoonery at SDSU is comical

[@billl1127]

Adela De LA Bafoonery

[@Patrick-sg7cm]

@billl1127 Yes. That level of bafoonery makes SDSU an unattractive expansion candidate.

[@phillipowens3612]

Wassau, Oregon State, Boise State, San Diego State are all stuck on the outside of a Power Conference🤔

[@johndotter351]

SDSU time is not yet but maybe soon.

[@DoctorEw220]

What about the American Athletic Conference?

[@bayareadoghouse]

Let’s talk about Cal! They are in a much more precarious situation given they are a public university and need football revenue. They can’t simplify go independent and need to dump Stanford, team up with OSU and WSU with the MWC. California board of regents isn’t going to approve travel for Olympic sports and needs to stay on the west coast.

[@petejimenez4775]

UCF, CINN, LOUISVILLE, TCU GOT AGGRESSIVE AND MADE THAT MOVE...SCHOOLS LIKE UTSA, SDSU, MEMPHIS, SMU AND ECU NEED TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE, ONLY IF UTSA HAD A GREAT ATHLETIC DIRECTOR THEY COULD GET INVITED TO THE BIG 12.

[@ChuckBdigital]

Why is it when everyone refers to SDSU and their stadium all we see is rendering drawings of how great it looks with fans there...when in actuality they have no fans, no buzz, no excitement. Ask anyone who lives in SD county, they don't care. SDSU is the Stanford of the MWC...elitist fans who don't show up.

[@bayareadoghouse]

Interesting point. Here in the Bay no one cares about Stanford nor Cal athletics. I’m a Fresno guy who attends Cal athletics events being in north Oakland but I’m a real outlier. Also attend Saint Mary’s basketball too. Rooting for OSU WSU and Cal to join the MWC

[@zenshinroshi186]

Give me a break San Diego State fans do not thinkl thry are sure there's always the certain Bunch you want to think they're the best but that happens with every school. no Aztec fan goes around calling itself the elite you need to stay off the hard stuff maybe drink some iced tea. yes attendance isn't good when the team is bad when you put an exciting product on the field San Diego State has in the past drawn 50,000 fans to a game and certainly could with 40k. you might have missed this for 2 years we played in Carson so of course there were any fans then. San Diego is a middle-class city and unfortunately, many people can't afford the tickets at Snapdragon I don't think you realize just how expensive they are. it's $40 for parking seats will cost you even on the 10-yard line about $200 so for two people that's $240 Plus food Etc most people can't afford that. You don't have to look at renderings there are plenty of pictures of the stadium as it is now it's a beautiful Stadium, if anyone does renderings of a stadium they're going to show it with a crowd you genius. Boise fans are good sports they're proud of their team and they can be a little arrogant at times but they're almost always gentlemen. you go to Fresno game you're liable to be hit with a urine bomb and the atmosphere is like a Raiders game only some of the fans aren't that sane. I was never interested except for the money aspect of joining the Pack 12. you know in 45 years ASU and U of A only produced two Rose Bowl teams both by ASU. I went to ASU in the '60s actually played a couple years under Frank Kush The dream was in for them to go to the Pacific Conference. we didn't do so well once we got there. I know full well that if you put a good product on the field San Diego State will do well in attendance. Ask for the P5 thing if you haven't figured this out yet the whole idea behind that is to have a super Conference of 64 teams and screw everybody else. that's the American way we live in a corporate plutocracy where money is God. also a good proportion of our population are morons of which we have prima facie evidence by the last two presidents we elected. FORM 2014 TO 2019 SDSU WAS 65TH IN with 33,901 collegefootballnews.com/preview/college-football-attendance-rankings-no-1-130-2019-cfn-five-year-program-analysis

[@russrichards6685]

Wherever they go, please take UNLV with them. Tired of both thinking they are special. Waiting room: Boise State.

[@newyorknole2225]

SDSU to the B12 makes 0 sense dude. Why would they pass on Stanford and Cal only to take SDSU? The smart move for the B12 is to wait for the eventual ACC raid. They could get VT, NC State, Louisville, and Pitt

[@Jay_Cannon]

0:35 San Diego State has NO leverage. Where are they gonna go? Pac-12? Nope. Big 12? Doesn’t want them. Big Ten? Don’t make me laugh. SEC? Get real.

[@billl1127]

Boise St gets better TV ratings than SDSU. Its overall viewership that matters, not TV markets.

[@BrendenBaker30]

Did you go to San Diego State, bruh??? They are not going anywhere.

[@leekato2722]

The SDSU AD called bullshit on this

[@billl1127]

Too embarrassed to fess up. He knows it makes SDSU look foolish, again.

[@davkatjenn]

I graduated SDSU in 1981 and the talk of them trying to get out of the Mountain West and seek another conference is really, really disappointing. It sounds like San Diego State has as much money lust as any other college in the country and that is not a good thing. I am thinking now about Stanford and Cal going to the ACC and I can hear the University Presidents of those school right now telling the old story about how their only interest is in the welfare of the student/athletes. Well how is that going to work for them when they have a mid-week contest back at Clemson and this is during a big midterm exam week? I wish to God that football and basketball were no longer on campus and the NFL and the NBA financed them and ran them as minor leagues. So SDSU wants to go down that road? As an alumni I would much rather see them continue to play the schools that they grew up playing and not worship at the altar of the almighty dollar. How about some loyalty Aztecs. Geez, this is disappointing.

[@kalisbestpttkoj692]

Cal, Washington state, and Stanford are power 5 doormat football programs except Oregon State. These orphans are lucky if MWC best teams join them or have them join the MWC. If they want to keep the PAC brand, they should act quickly and invite Fresno State, Boise state, San Diego state, UNLV, SMU, and UTEP.

[@deboramunoz1084]

This commentary is too long and repeats the same

[@davidfloyd9134]

You very much don’t understand the Big12

[@bradarmstrong7467]

SDState is not all that. They are a good school (athletics wise) but not great. Both Fresno State and Boise State are better. Since 2012 in Football Fresno State has 4 conference championships and 6 more division championships. Boise State has 4 conference championships and 6 more division championships. San Diego has 2 conference championships and 5 more division championships. Head to head In the same time frame Fresno state has a 7-3 lead in basketball, historically Fresno State has been somewhat better with the last couple of years (particularly last year) San Diego has the edge. FSU has national champion Baseball and softball teams and both have been consistent national powers (baseball since the late 50’s) although both have come down a notch to regional powers in the last 10 years or so. They also announced a 275 million dollar remodel of an already nice stadium to take it up a level and have a really nice on campus basketball facility. Bottom line while San Diego St. is a good school in college athletics, it is in any given year, 3rd or 4th best in the Mountain west over all. So, what, really do they have to offer a bigger conference other than the Southern California tv market and history has shown that the fan base there is behind a winner but anything less than that, they disappear.

[@bayareadoghouse]

Well put Brad

[@rbbrooks6338]

Just add the MTN West to the Pac-12 and call it a day. If not you loose the Pac-12. I think being in the Pac-12 other school may get better recruits as everyone wants to go to all the good schools but will not get in or start etc. where can you be a superstar and been seen. Team Leader and top dog. Go to the Pac-12/MTN West.

[@Yaboose]

Nice

[@tompiper1480]

I think they will stay in Mountain West or Big 12 could be a good fit

[@goose4284]

Nothing. Need to stay where they are!!

[@lastpme]

Nothing…but they are lucky that the PAC 12 didn’t offer them an invite last summer since it would cost them $17 million dollars.

[@billl1127]

LOL, $17 m and your conference implodes. Like buying a new car and totaling it on the drive home.

[@donaldawillis11]

NO ONE WANTS SDSU EXCEPT FOR THE PAC12

[@bayareadoghouse]

I’m going to put the Rat on the table and tell you that SDSU doesn’t have a real fan base. They are a destination school and graduates leave and don’t support the program thereafter. Not knocking our brother SD but Fresno State is really a college town and even when/if we move we care about the community’s college. SDSU just doesn’t have that feel. Saturday night in SD what are you going to do? Something other than college football. Saturday night in Fresno it’s about the only show in town and we care from elsewhere.

[@bayareadoghouse]

Fresno Sounds a lot like Corvallis and Pullman. I don’t blame SDSU for reaching for the stars, get whatever you can my brothers but the actuality is they are a lot less of a fan base than Fresno who the Dogs are the only show in town. Very Big 12 ish.

[@penaltybox76084]

they will move to the new Pac 8 .. 😅

[@gregpayton6935]

I have 34 million reasons they won't

[@penaltybox76084]

@@gregpayton6935 i said it as joke 🤣 ..

[@disneyland3716]

MWC should increase exit fees for all California schools. Make them pay!!!!

[@MrJara1018]

That’s petty and dumb ,if SDSU follows the rules everything is free game.

[@bayareadoghouse]

It would only apply to Fresno and SDSU. Boise is already getting a better deal than both those schools. Sounds unfair.

[@riccorich]

Acc should go get SD and UNLV

[@DopeItzTheeOne]

This is wild at one point they seemed like they was Pac-12 bound and now the Pac-12 is all but dead. Honestly I won’t be surprised if the Big 12 made a run at them.

[@roris5882]

​@@FH-zv1ke ND, FSU, Clemson, and UNC are going to the B1G to maximize their revenue for sports AND academics. ESPN is broke because they didn't even have enough money to pay the SEC to expand to 9 conference games. The B1G negotiated a better TV contract with escalator clauses for adding new members. The money keeps going up for all the valuable schools they add. So they might be making double what the SEC earns.

[@jdwilmoth]

Well maybe they could get Fresno State maybe Long Beach State if they even play football and a couple more of those other West Coast schools enjoying the four remaining pac-12 teams and start a new version of the wac conference They can call it the woke athletic conference

[@bayareadoghouse]

LBSU? Okay sounds like the old PCAA which I loved! Don’t think Stanford will not associate with us dregs from the csu. But like where your heads at.

[@DavidValentine3799]

SMU to the Big 10 .

[@HughJass-id8iq]

hell will freeze over before that happens.

[@DavidValentine3799]

@@HughJass-id8iq Big 10 wants a piece of the Texas market .

[@FelixChavez-cd9tf]

MWC should trade SDSU to C-USA for NM State

[@xijinpooh8534]

People should know when they are conquered…