What Happens When China Becomes Number One?

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Institute of Politics Harvard Kennedy School

Institute of Politics Harvard Kennedy School

3 жыл бұрын

What Happens When China Becomes Number One?
Date: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 06:00PM
More video info at iop.harvard.edu/node/1582
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The 2015 Albert H. Gordon Lecture by:Kishore Mahbubani Dean and Professor in the Practice of Public Policy , Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore

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@user-ottoyu123
@user-ottoyu123 2 жыл бұрын
The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian KZbinr’s comment: I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. Minorities in China Show me any currency in the world which also prints the language of its ethinc minorities. Chinese bank notes show 5 languages of 5 minorities living in China, including Tibetan and Uyghur. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. Muslims students get Halal food at the university cafeteria. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievements and success have been by hard work. Not by looting and plundering the world. I have deep respect and love for China for all the suffering and the hardship they endured, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
@zenalopez5043
@zenalopez5043 2 жыл бұрын
Can u send me this I tried to copy it won’t let me. Very good info
@jzbgtiger
@jzbgtiger 2 жыл бұрын
please provide link to the original Malaysia KZbin comment.
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791 2 жыл бұрын
yeh, but that is no longer true, and wasn't quite true then (China's propaganda is more blatant and see-through that Soviet Russia's). True, it is LESSER KNOWN about China and interference/warfare for it's own interests, but, partly this is due to their EMPEROR GOD making sure their ''truth' was known, and partly due to what was gleaned from the Khan dynasties in relation to OTHER means of domination without the waste and expense of blatant war. Whatever side of the ridiculous argument you take, none the less, you CANNOT debate with China! CANNOT! Whatever their modern take upon Emperor-godship says is ''true'', then IT IS TRUE! Even when you perosnally know it all to be fake. You'll get crushed. MAKE NO MISTAKE! It is BRUTAL! You thyink America is bad? Russia? YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET! But the rich elites will LOVE China. Things ''get done'' due to one party leadership continuity (I remember listening to a Scottish construction owner who works there all the time due to one party politics suiting him only too well because ''things get done''.. Money, bottom line! same old, same old), and like IDIOTS we'll get sucked up along with the bullshit this encompasses. Compared to China, the West is an angel! Democracy may be as yet infantile, BUT, at least we can CONEST our leaders, and sometimes even make chanages. try THAT in china! Also, Malaysia shows no contest to China, no threat. So China has no need to flex it's muscles with them. DIFFERENT STORY ELSEWHERE where they dominate subtly, by stealth buying everything up, especially Africa. And I guess taking advantage of the hate generated by the ''West's'' initial neglactful propietorial use of Africa up till, and including modern times. BUT, we CANNOT say THE WEST IS LIKE THAT! For THAT is not true Why? because the West is built of many people with many views, and many differeing motivations,. and we are patiently, still learning which ones work best for everyone. And we still need to detect and isolate harmful individuals who try to dominate everyone else, as this keeps us stuck in our primitive past. In effect, China, Russia, and North Korea, where NEVER communist, but re-inventions of Ancient Emperor God systems like Egypt, and more recently ROME. Whatever CEASAR says YOU DO! NO AGRUMENT! How do we know pervasive emperor god primitivism yet is? iran and iraq and Arab cultures call high leaders ''Shah'', germans Kaiser, Russias Tsar, and so on. ALL OF THESE ARE FORMS OF CEASAR, the word and name. not that this proves China is, as they have different lingual roots. BUT the mechanisms of Ceasardom, Emperor Godship are all there in their consecutive leaders and dynasties and all had their origin myths too. At end of the day what ONE MAN SAYS? GOES! END OF. It is a primitve and BRUTAL way to run a world system. As everyone works for it via FEAR! or desperation. noit that the West is innocent here. BUT, we have been making stridfes, slowly, clumsily, and sometimes mistakenly, into getting rid of this nasty highly evolve means of schoolyard bullying. China will ONLY benefit the mega rich, even more so than the so called ''West''. A West which consists of so many differeing entities, that it is not at all a ''West'' in the slightest. And what of the Uighar Muslims of china? The concentyration camps? JKust like Hitler denied his camps, so too are China. And JUSt like hitler, experiments, mainly in control, and mind stuff, are being employed upon thesde poor Uighar people. WHO IS HELPING THEM? Are Malaysian Muslims even caring? Or like Western leaders, burying their heads in the sand while business is good? Or really, is it FEAR to call the new bully out?
@thinkerr
@thinkerr 2 жыл бұрын
Superb write up and on point. The west and their hypocrisy can learn something from Asia.
@yesyes1842
@yesyes1842 2 жыл бұрын
Great write-up and good to educate people on. However, I think Chinese culture as well as Asian culture suffer from the same weakness. They are too apologetic and focus on explaining themselves too much as if to seek some form of validation in the world. I think the West believes showing strength and doing all these bad things to China is simply through the lens of competition and they are simply doing the best job possible to empower their country. The fact China only focusses internally and explain why they are not wrong means the west should continue to be on the offensive and explain why China is wrong. Because they are just doing their job the best way possible and their only interest is what is best for their country and that's it. This is why they were elected in the first place by their citizens. The west sees competition as the only way to decide who is more deserving in this world, because that is proof of who is better. So competition is a good thing and capitalism is also based on competition. Western culture prizes competition in business, athletic sports, politics, warfare, and like personalities that thrive in it. Competition validates who is the best and the best should get the most. That is it. I think from China's perspective they cannot grasp this culture from the west. They always feel trapped like the west truly think they are wrong and self reflect and try to explain. China needs to focus more directly at playing politics as oppose to blaming how politics is played. It is a sign of weakness when you explain too much because the west wants you to always keep your head down and maintain the debate about whether China is good or bad country. The only way to stay above judgement is to keep judging other countries, that is a western strategy.
@aakashPotter
@aakashPotter 10 ай бұрын
Im suprised by how clear the responses to the questions were. I was expecting diplomatic answers but Kishore was absolutely crystal clear in his answers.
@raintv8852
@raintv8852 6 ай бұрын
说实话 作为一个中国人 看到title就已经很为过去几十年前辈们的努力感到骄傲了
@whiteknight10
@whiteknight10 2 ай бұрын
See what the Chinese government did to its people in Tiananmen Square... Your legs will be stumble
@whiteknight10
@whiteknight10 2 ай бұрын
See what the Chinese government did to its people in Tiananmen Square... Your legs will be stumble
@whiteknight10
@whiteknight10 2 ай бұрын
See what the Chinese government did to its people in Tiananmen Square... Your legs will be stumble
@josebravo834
@josebravo834 Күн бұрын
The false narrative of a superior white race is slowly fading away thanks to China.
@wayne4971
@wayne4971 Жыл бұрын
馬凱碩太讚了,感謝李光耀與新加坡的識人善用,中國人要謙虛繼續加倍努力,不負世界所有人的期望
@Lazarov_Tweevles
@Lazarov_Tweevles 3 жыл бұрын
21:17 Brilliant observation by Mr. Mahbubani: "Be careful what you wish for .... because if the Chinese political system becomes more democratic it could very well become far more nationalist and far more aggressive as a power"
@mooooo6601
@mooooo6601 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@alantan9863
@alantan9863 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the same collective dictatorship is the only force that can moderate Chinese public.
@hoonztookoong5178
@hoonztookoong5178 3 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense, Just look at Taiwan and even USA. How the politicians rely on anti china sentiments to win votes. If China adopts western style democratic system, The Chinese people may become even more nationalistic then now.
@esp4yu
@esp4yu 3 жыл бұрын
@@alantan9863 Today there are more Chinese who are able to speak and write English when compared with the number of Western Countries combine who knows how to speak and write Chinese. Everyday there are 12,000 startups in China, 8 million graduate every year from Universities ... and the List goes on and on. This is due to exposure not seen in the 50's & 60's. Today Chinese and Asian Chinese are much smarter and able to decide what they want to do because of the Openness and Maturity of the Country and this is cannot be due to Dictatorship as we see in North Korea where movement (including access to Education, Connectivity; Internet ... etc) are Restricted. We have seen how Free Speech and Expression can cause Division, Racism in a Country like USA ... by 2047 Democracy would have failed due to Disintermediation (Dambisa Moyo). The Question remain: What freedom do you need? If there are successful People or Companies in China, why not you? How does dictatorship in China stop you from doing what you want but not able to stop others from succeeding?
@originalandrewmark
@originalandrewmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@esp4yu Thank you Phil. I myself could not have said it better, and I will incorporate your knowledge. Can't wait until serendipity brings us tet a tet (fr.) Attending Asian Solidarity in PHX this evening!
@ptan4120
@ptan4120 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore Mahbuhani has an excellent way of speaking without using flowery words, without speaking between lines, without mincing his words. Clarity, concise, precise and well-researched are his forte!
@witnessthewrath8061
@witnessthewrath8061 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph exactly
@gcj7771
@gcj7771 3 жыл бұрын
He is a chinese stooge paid to paint china as a beautiful garden of roses. Plain bull-shit. xi jinping bull-shit
@josephukpong2287
@josephukpong2287 3 жыл бұрын
He is a wonderful speaker, sound intellectual and a good diplomat. I could listen to him all day
@topherno
@topherno 3 жыл бұрын
@@gcj7771 Lol, classic brainless western response when you have no counterargument. Funny how the west, the purported bastion of free and critical thinking, produces people like you who knee-jerk react with "zOmG CCP bot/stooge spotted!" whenever anyone says anything other than "ChY-Na is eVlL man". Absolute weak sauce.
@joyzhou1604
@joyzhou1604 2 жыл бұрын
Did you read this book online named: "How the specter of communism is ruling our world"? it is kind of so popular now, I also found its 10 Ep. series on KZbin, it shows the answer of why the US is on the way to communism now, I was shocked by the truth mentioned in this book&video.
@lilily5454
@lilily5454 2 жыл бұрын
“ No country is perfect, every country has something to learn and to improve”. Jesus, what a point to make!
@skreety0455
@skreety0455 Жыл бұрын
Now let's talk about the marriage merry-go-round!
@alainwong185
@alainwong185 3 ай бұрын
Stupid mind ruin Jesus name into politic
@naveennandigum8630
@naveennandigum8630 2 жыл бұрын
I used to read Mabhubani and works that cited him during my international studies courses in early 2010s. Nice to come across this again and perfect timing I suppose.
@moonaz1163
@moonaz1163 3 жыл бұрын
Deeply agree with the conclusion of first story as a Chinese...ppl here really don’t care what political system we have, either democracy or community. Our country has long history, we proud of the culture and we also feel upset of the humiliation had suffered. All we care and pursue is better life , peace and happy.
@willd0g
@willd0g 2 жыл бұрын
Free the Uyghurs
@monophthalmus3254
@monophthalmus3254 2 жыл бұрын
@@willd0g Uighurs are free in China. If you are talking about the obviously over-blown number of Islamist terrorists that is detained in China in the same way that Islamist terrorists are detained in Guantanamo Bay, then yes, those exist. People are in those camps for a reason. If you would like to know more about the reason, please ask the CIA on why there are people detained in GB.
@monophthalmus3254
@monophthalmus3254 2 жыл бұрын
@Jo Piscine That is just red scare propaganda. Baseless accusations because you are too afraid of reality. But keep on being afraid while the world moves on and leaves you behind to cry in your tinfoil hat.
@monophthalmus3254
@monophthalmus3254 2 жыл бұрын
@Jo Piscine There are no factual basis for your claims for a genocide. The Uighur population in China has been increasing, and the Chinese government has shown zero intent on killing a group of people. So you can keep on claiming "gEnOcide" all you want, but that is just propaganda. You are the one is who in fear of the facts. Sad.
@absdef331
@absdef331 2 жыл бұрын
so you think its reasonable to assume that 1000 "western" media entities with hundreds of different opinions all somehow conspire to distort the truth more than a single opinion, heavily censored state actor?
@neroravtong
@neroravtong 3 жыл бұрын
The most important part: this is a lecture 6 years ago.
@lisashung9442
@lisashung9442 3 жыл бұрын
People, especially American people, have to be reminded of his lecture given 6 years ago because the people are deaf........
@tammystewart10
@tammystewart10 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisashung9442 is it really 6 years ago? Then Americans are intentionally ignorant and resistant to change and embrace the world especially Asia Middle Eastern Africa
@frankgenner782
@frankgenner782 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisashung9442 China committing genocide, forced labor and military aggression around the world . This was nothing but propaganda.
@lisashung9442
@lisashung9442 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankgenner782 I totally agree with you these china crimes are all America’s propaganda. I have watched Daniel Dumbrill’s interview Rushan Abbas, Uighur American activist. I was very disappointed as I thought her talk could be logic and evidence backed but full of speculations and imagination, even a lot of conflicts in itself, which was a deep insult to my intelligence.
@frankgenner782
@frankgenner782 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisashung9442 Imagine it's after midnight in China and you replied to my comment in less than 5 mins on a Sunday night.
@anthonyajibolaomoruyi8054
@anthonyajibolaomoruyi8054 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anybody in that hall had a millisecond of not being attentive to the lecture by Prof. Kishore Mahbubani; so soft spoken and at the same time very explosive in the content of the message.
@fingernecklace4817
@fingernecklace4817 2 жыл бұрын
I am so deeply grateful that lectures like this are available free of charge to anyone with internet access.
@ruthyang2011
@ruthyang2011 Жыл бұрын
American are too naive about Chinese communist。
@superman0391
@superman0391 Жыл бұрын
i never thought someone could have the knact of being so factual and well verse in the knowledge of history, economics and politics over the past century as the late LKY. His ability of linking all these events together and synthesising them to form the footprints for future scenarios is exemplary!
@pepelepew1227
@pepelepew1227 Жыл бұрын
China hegemony: - 60 working hours per week. - 90% maths score or no citizenship. - the word 'lazy' is taken off the dictionary. - every parent must pay for their children's education, wedding and first-home downpayment. - obesity is illegal for networth
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@leoncioco3305
@leoncioco3305 3 жыл бұрын
If this lecture is 6 years old, clearly Americans elites had not learn a thing. 🤣😂🤣
@oceanwave4502
@oceanwave4502 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you watch western medias and western politics for some time, you will realize that western politics exhausts politicians and people, for superficial issues. If the issue is small, exaggerate it to gain views. If the issue is sensitive, further provoke it to gain views. Politicians can never have a long term planning and vision with such atmosphere. Theid mind is always anxious...
@levelazn
@levelazn 3 жыл бұрын
Mainstream media audience are too dense for this level of political analysis
@anchored555
@anchored555 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, they’re either in denial or slow learners.
@plb475
@plb475 3 жыл бұрын
Americans politicians are controlled by big corporations, ie $100 million funding just for a senate seat, what that telling you.
@johnstockton8138
@johnstockton8138 3 жыл бұрын
They are already number one, they control the US through their proxy, Biden administration. Americans don't even realize they have been conquered. lol.
@pcstar123
@pcstar123 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore was being very modest in stating that Chinese individual's productivity only needs to perform at 25% level to exceed America at the national level! But the truth is they are actually twice as productive and gets paid at 25% level of the Americans!
@lofurry6
@lofurry6 3 жыл бұрын
Can not hear clearly
@johnwu3148
@johnwu3148 3 жыл бұрын
cannot agree more, China's national GDP will undoubtedly surpass US' in next decade or so, but the GDP per capita will be a long way to be caught up.
@ttemp2631
@ttemp2631 3 жыл бұрын
that's only small part of China's population. the majority, mostly in rural areas are still very inefficient. there is a huge potential there. With higher productivity, the work can be done by just a quarter of the people now. maybe 3 quarter of the rural area can be made redundant and be useful for higher productivity industrial work.
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 3 жыл бұрын
China because of 4.6 times of population need to produce only 23% engineers. To match America has to produce 100% engineers. Even if they exceed so what. They long exceeded Switzerland or Germany. Does it mean all Chinese have lifestyles equal to Swiss or Germans.
@tonytan6547
@tonytan6547 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@ReseCema
@ReseCema Жыл бұрын
The video is a lecture at the Harvard Kennedy School's Albert H. Gordon lecture series by Kishore Mahbubani, a Singaporean career diplomat and former dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy. He talks about China's rise as a superpower, its goals and aspirations, and the role of the relationship between the United States and China in influencing China's rise.
@arnoldjansen8737
@arnoldjansen8737 9 ай бұрын
Thanks to this channel! It gives us a remarkable lecture about the rising of political, educational, and economic systems for emerging countries, especially China, which has been progressively competing with the incumbent superpower country (The U.S.) for an extended period. Although there are some skirmishes along the way between those countries, but they're always learning and making something new in order to have a massive impact on their civilization and prosperity.
@frankharcourt7523
@frankharcourt7523 3 жыл бұрын
I am an Australian so I come from a very rich western civilized new world nation . That is due to the fact that Australia sells a lot of natural resources to China and we educate a lot of Chinese students in our Universities.. I bought an Apple Computer (an American company) on line. The computer was shipped to me direct from China (where it was made). I think that story tells you all you need to know about the way the world really works in 2021. The bottom line is Wall Street will not save America.
@14reasons58
@14reasons58 3 жыл бұрын
A very rich western civilized new world nation? Its bankrupt and running on banker credit system. And it's getting invaded and taken over by Asians.
@jamesjacobs3753
@jamesjacobs3753 3 жыл бұрын
Your computer was produced in several countries including the US. The high end, patent sensitive parts were produced outside China and then shipped there where they put them together. Chinese labor is easily replaceable, for every person in China willing to work for 1.5 USD an hour there is a person in Vietnam, Cambodia, India or Indonesia willing to do it for half that, which is why US companies are leaving China.
@EnriqueVivancoH
@EnriqueVivancoH 3 жыл бұрын
And your government is doing everything possible to destroy your economy by attacking the Chinese government, you will fight against the Chinese influence until the last life of the Australians.. haha
@EnriqueVivancoH
@EnriqueVivancoH 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjacobs3753 The United States only prints dollars and makes weapons to force us to use their dollars. If it weren't for blocking Huawei, everyone would be using Huawei technology, which is much cheaper and has as good quality as your western sh*t. I myself have used your sh+tty Apple, now I use Huawei (in my country it is not prohibited).
@jamesjacobs3753
@jamesjacobs3753 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnriqueVivancoH 😂 Do you guys have a script you’re all copying and pasting from? It’s the same ridiculous response every time. The US doesn’t have to force anyone to use the dollar. They use it because over that last century it’s been the most stable currency in the world. If the US employed the strategy you mentioned then they wouldn’t of allowed the Euro, which was specifically designed to rival the dollar, to come into existence in the late 90s. If we are attacking currencies then I have to point out the Yuan is trash, no one trusts the CCP to not devalue it on a whim to use it for international trade. As for Chinese technology companies they are extremely good using at copying US and EU technology, but that’s about it. But I guess time will tell if China can innovate on its own. I doubt it though.
@brendanlim3630
@brendanlim3630 2 жыл бұрын
All Americans should listen to this lecture so as to understand China better and not be affected by the US politicians trying to depict China in a bad light 👍
@jelmerwalsh8973
@jelmerwalsh8973 Жыл бұрын
Tianamen Square ....1989 is a good look.? When "Freedom of Speech " can get you locked up? Tortured? Your family Terrorized?....and even you killed?....is a Chinese "Good Light."?
@jelmerwalsh8973
@jelmerwalsh8973 Жыл бұрын
And you the unwashed Chinese masses have no say in who become "Dictator for Life." when last did the average Chinese get to vote for the candidate of his or her choice?
@Fr.VeniceLAI
@Fr.VeniceLAI Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, one-year on, since posted, situation in CPC-China has changed dramatically...Covid-Zero Lockdowns continue in intensity..Chinese White uniformed Para-military troops carrying automatic assault rifles along with Armored vehicles are deployed onto the streets of China's major cities. Chinese Banks' frauds, with Citizens Bank Accounts frozen ...and there is now a general restriction on movement .. travelling within and outside of China, under "Zero-Covid Regime"..a new form of CPC-Movement Control of all Chinese Citizens. How can these be the ideas of a World #1 Nation in the making ?? Opine, China Leadership is making actually "CHINA POOR AGAIN"..becos if Chinese Citizens become wealthy and prosperous..the demise and collapse of the entire CPC-Org would happen..just like the former Soviet Union.
@anciagabe7804
@anciagabe7804 Жыл бұрын
He sounds like Neville Chamberlain landing in London waving the peace treaty with Germany.
@fargr5926
@fargr5926 Жыл бұрын
@@anciagabe7804 China is too bad a villain for US to digest, good luck!
@peterliu8964
@peterliu8964 2 жыл бұрын
What a profound speech, what a wise man he is ! I have learnt so much from you ! Respect and thank you!
@guestonearth1274
@guestonearth1274 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch, I learn more and respect Kishore Mahbubani more.
@skreety0455
@skreety0455 Жыл бұрын
Love his Sutras.
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 3 жыл бұрын
Lecture in 2015 by a very wise man and America, the West especially the UK has not listened to a word of it. Mr. Mahbubani must be shaking his head in despair.
@frankm4349
@frankm4349 3 жыл бұрын
Here is something Mr Mahbubani spoke 6 years ago however Americans are still struggling to understand today.
@midwestmeiliguo
@midwestmeiliguo 3 жыл бұрын
Americans have selective hearing. They do that to their own peril. It doesn't matter whether American are willing to listen, China has been moving along.
@margritwujing
@margritwujing 3 жыл бұрын
Not only Americans. Look at the European.....
@Rai_Koroshiya
@Rai_Koroshiya 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us were listening and paying attention back then and sounding the alarm.
@wisetour4ever
@wisetour4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Americans are reluctant to understand and not ready to accept the truth
@theq1621
@theq1621 3 жыл бұрын
@@margritwujing not all Europeans, EU yes but not whole Europe.
@garyhuntsr71698
@garyhuntsr71698 Жыл бұрын
melodious delivery of exceptional ideas in piercing precision! kudos! May I humbly devote one more Maxim= The way critics get treated in China tells everything! Could be applicable to any other cultures
@KingSolomon88
@KingSolomon88 Жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful, articulate and knowledgeable. Great lecture.
@Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes
@Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes Жыл бұрын
Hope my videos can reach those who want to learn Chinese. I’ve spent about 100,000 hours studying English humor and Western culture. My native language is Chinese. I’m teaching Chinese language in jokes and pictures. Culture exchange and laughter can make the world better.
@rudysetiawan7485
@rudysetiawan7485 2 жыл бұрын
"Those who can't stand to see the success of others will never experience their own"
@deanw8206
@deanw8206 2 жыл бұрын
That applies to people in a society. Not adversarial nations, especially when one is eager to annex or deprave its neighbors and destroy the environment like no other nation.
@christ7822
@christ7822 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanw8206 What you said is just not true. After the People's Republic of China was established in 1949 and onwards, it had border issues with its neighboring nations, if i am not wrong should be around 16 nations, and within the last 60+ years, China has settled and reclaimed its territory in a peaceful and diplomatic manner which only leaves 2/1 nations that is India. There are much more land that historically would still be considered to be chinese territories, but with now modern legalized international border, china hasn't even mentioned that they want to take those over by force. I will not deny there are existing problems, but those problems shall and will be sorted out, but it's definitely not in the manner you speak of, which i quote "eager to annex and deprave its neighbors and destroy the enviroment".
@deanw8206
@deanw8206 2 жыл бұрын
@@christ7822 , Tibet was taken over and the Tibetans didn't want it. Now China intends to annex Taiwan within the decade. Taiwanians certainly don't want to be part of China, just like people in Hong Kong don't want to reunite with China. The fact that these places were once part of China means nothing, especially when marxists take over the government murder dozens of millions of people.
@christ7822
@christ7822 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanw8206 Regarding the marxist comment is bit outdated now days wouldn't you say? when now days the chinese governement is clearly doing much better than other countries in terms of servicing it's people. History doesn't dictate but it certainly affects the way it will play out. Hong kong doesn't want to reunite, but the fact is that it was returned to China from the long colonization and ocupation of then United kingdom, which the cease was deemed a peaceful return by then. It is China's goal to complete itself and return to before what was lost when it was invaded and splitted. I can't say for sure that the means or ways are good but i certainly admire the cause. Taiwan is an issue on its own, evantually I don't think mainland need to intervene in a hard way, it is already presenting failings in social, economic and political areas, as you say there are people who don't want to return, but then at the same time there are people who are willing to, just as a story always has two sides. But an exemplary example no one ever mentions is Macau, which was another teorritory returned to China. why it doesn't present any problems? why no one puts it in the forfront for this so called cause for the rights and justice. There is no denying china is prospering, and these areas being mentioned are benefitted from it, so as long facts present that the mayority of people's lives are improving, I generally think it's better.
@deanw8206
@deanw8206 2 жыл бұрын
@@christ7822 Didn't read cause you indicated you believe CCP propaganda. You're cleary out to polish bolshevik knob
@cysiu4174
@cysiu4174 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore, you are very brave to speak your mind in front of the Americans !! Thanks so much for your wonderful speech!!
@benghwee7196
@benghwee7196 3 жыл бұрын
..just like LKY..but not loud at all.
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 3 жыл бұрын
In America there is freedom to criticize. Not like your culture.
@cysiu4174
@cysiu4174 3 жыл бұрын
@@rameshpudhucode6862 Have you ever visited China? Chinese citizens can critize the government but cannot promote subversion. I believe that applies to the western countries as well. In China, there is a direct line to lodge complaints against all levels of government. People can call 12345 to lodge all sorts of complaints.
@bircruz555
@bircruz555 3 жыл бұрын
@@rameshpudhucode6862 There are mobs in America. Cy Ciu has good intuition. I would not trust someone not going ballistic and going ballistic. I have seen it happen at academia. No kidding. It all means that the credit is as much to the audience as to the diplomat who skillfully stuffs bitter poison in the mouth keeping the audience rapt in his thinking. I sure would not stand and do that.
@danishapereira8637
@danishapereira8637 3 жыл бұрын
Can he speak his mind as freely in front of the chineese if it is not so palatable
@tonytan6547
@tonytan6547 Жыл бұрын
An excellent talk by the excellent professor Mr. Kishore Mabubani
@xingyiqian5258
@xingyiqian5258 2 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, I find this video very accurate. But sadly I’m witnessing more and more aggressive approach from the party and thus the population. But even that is the case, the Chinese people as I believe is peaceful, and I urge my fellow Chinese to not go the other way around. We are to bring back the glory of our civilisation, which builds upon the progress of ourselves, but not through the aggression towards others.
@zarine1958
@zarine1958 3 жыл бұрын
It's true about American media in US being extremely insular. Living there for 4 years in the mid 1980s was like living in a well. No Internet then, so no news of the world outside of USA. We had to call our families in Singapore to get Asian news. But in Asia we can read news about the world in our papers and on TV. But even with the ease of Internet these days, many Americans are still so insular. They know so little about the rest of the world.
@jamesjacobs3753
@jamesjacobs3753 3 жыл бұрын
@@gutemberguefelix7108 Because they pretty much are. The US has never imported a recession from another country and relative to GDP is one of the least interconnected economies in the world and considering Canada and Mexico make up about 50% of their international trade portfolio they are extremely insulated. The only links hold the US interest in the world is importing oil, exporting agricultural good and access cheaper labor, but with the shale oil revolution in the US the oil link is disappearing. Literally the whole eastern hemisphere could disappear tomorrow and the US would get a decent sized recession and have to figure out where to source new commodities from but after that the standard of living would continue to improve.
@jamesjacobs3753
@jamesjacobs3753 3 жыл бұрын
@@gutemberguefelix7108 😂 insults based on ignorance are hilarious. Dude go read an Economics book, almost every economy experiences a corrective recession once a decade due to the short term debt cycle. The difference with the US economy is when other countries have recessions they don’t spread to the US making their economy the most stable economy in the history of the world.
@triffinaunderwood1236
@triffinaunderwood1236 3 жыл бұрын
Totally concur with you - my experience as late as 2007, the insularity of, print media, MSM and the man on the street was and still is ‘mind boggling’ !!
@Anriko123
@Anriko123 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjacobs3753 To some people, maybe ignorance is bliss. The US may have never imported a recession, but they definitely exported them. The major financial crisis which started in the US has cost other countries trillions too, does the US take blame for that? No... The cause of that? Wall Street greed. And when you look at the size of our country's debt against our GDP, you know what you see? Capitalism can continue to thrive ONLY if there are other countries to rip off, otherwise, there is no sustainable growth of standard of living. If the whole eastern hemisphere disappear tomorrow, would US have enough farms to produce food to self sustain? How about manufacturing? When was the last time US manufactured enough to not need import? The United State is just like how many of the families within it, a family that is living beyond its means, and debt ridden, with their family income, barely covering debt payment. Now the US has to print money daily just to service their debt, not to pay off any of that.
@jamesjacobs3753
@jamesjacobs3753 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anriko123 Speaking of ignorance, do you think really think the US has to print money to service its debt when interest payments on that debt is 1.6% of GDP? Or do you think the FED prints money because of it’s policy of quantitative easing during a economic downturn? As a fiscal conservative I don’t approve of our spending levels, but seeing how the yield on a treasury bond is lower than inflation I see why the do it. Speaking of ignorance, did you know that for every calorie consumed in the US, US farmers produce 1.33 calories? In fact the federal government will pay farmers to not grow food to decrease the supply of food. Seriously, look it up. Speaking of ignorance, did you know that 1/5 of the world’s manufactured goods are produced in the US? Seeing that the US makes up 4.25% of the world’s population they can produce enough to meet their population’s demand. The US does import products from countries that have low labor costs, but on a whole the US is the least globally exposed economy in the developed world and almost the entire world with only 5 countries, such as the economic behemoths like Sudan and Nigeria, being less exposed. The US could lose access to every economy in the world excluding Canada and Mexico and after an adjustment period would be fine. Speaking of ignorance, during the time that capitalism has been the dominant economic theory death by starvation, war and disease has decrease dramatically. The average life span has by increased by 10 years since the collapse of the USSR. In 1990 almost half of the world’s population lived in extreme poverty, now it’s less than 10%. Seeing that this is a worldwide phenomenon it’s hard to see which countries wouldn’t want to be “exploited.”
@investing7883
@investing7883 2 жыл бұрын
42:38 American University 46:16 American News media 47:23 threat to American Supremacy 55:42 reserve currency and superpower 59:35 China in 1978 at the beginning 1:02:25 Singapore 1:03:27 London New York to Singapore of Asia 1:09:21 western education vs Asian mind
@addyred1861
@addyred1861 2 жыл бұрын
Ty my man
@msh9790
@msh9790 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@siramike2654
@siramike2654 2 жыл бұрын
only idiots thinks of supremacy. honestly i have explored a lot about the universe. ideally, i can't and different between a simple bacteria and complex one. universe simply treat us as a mere event of nature. you can let your stupidity carry you away, but the truth is there is no different between a poor and rich person. we are just delusional and can't to read through lines/universe. some thinks the level of material possession make you superior to others. but the defining question is, do your material possessions make you live forever?.
@hiway19891
@hiway19891 2 жыл бұрын
@@siramike2654 The purpose of life is to experience, and if you’re more rich and powerful, you usually gets to experience more than a begged on the street
@angecynthia347
@angecynthia347 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiway19891 he is talking about the within world,,our morals, our values.. A psychopath can go ahead to acquire all..what will it do to them if they feel no value, morals or rules in this life? What to feel?
@SG-hz9ys
@SG-hz9ys Жыл бұрын
Wish more American audiences be exposed to lectures like this. Very enlightening
@NicholasYoung-un8go
@NicholasYoung-un8go 10 ай бұрын
There’s no point in that. Americans are bogged down with culture wars, gun violence, racism and hatred of people who don’t look like them. How does the country progress?
@meganfoxbf
@meganfoxbf 4 ай бұрын
Kishore got kick out of Singapore civil service , know more before blindly follow him , now a China lackey
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo 4 ай бұрын
You have to be insane to think you could tell an American you'll be number two. The reactions would be so horrible.☠️
@jeanhuynh8548
@jeanhuynh8548 6 ай бұрын
Amazing speakers Kishore Mahbubani!
@wizkin4072
@wizkin4072 3 жыл бұрын
I am just shocked and stunned that this is a speech presented to Harvard 6 years ago.....what a vision he had!
@dagsmoko3889
@dagsmoko3889 3 жыл бұрын
At 21:30 KM is conflicted. He states the ccp as keeping Chinese nationalism in check, implying it is the Chinese people themselves who drive nationalism. Five years later it's more clear nationalism was driven by the ccp. Probably he believed the ccp would be successful greatly increasing nationalism( and a hatred of freedom and democracy) in the Chinese people; he was merely being duplicitous. What he didn't say was more important- that it is freedoms of individuals and groups, not democracy, that is the greatest threat to the ccp. Especially freedom of speech and association. KM's unwavering avoidance of the freedom arguments against the ccp detracts greatly from the worth of his views.
@annchin3464
@annchin3464 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagsmoko3889 copy and paste everywhere?
@superchargerone
@superchargerone 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagsmoko3889 says you who are obviously brilliant at reading subtext that isnt there... congrats on being fake news dude.
@andr3w131
@andr3w131 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagsmoko3889 Pure lies
@wy3131
@wy3131 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagsmoko3889 No, KM understand that adversarial electoral democracy will bring out the worst in people, all the selfishness of people. This fact has already been well demonstrated in the US and many other Western nations with similar system in place.
@slpuah7264
@slpuah7264 3 жыл бұрын
Professor Kishore Mahbubani is very open and honest is his answer "..........I don't know how to solve the problem". I admire people who answer the question directly and honestly. Yes, man, you're great!
@NazriB
@NazriB 2 жыл бұрын
Lies again? Jurong Institute
@daning9764
@daning9764 10 ай бұрын
What an excellent talk, thank you Kishore!
@ahmednassoro
@ahmednassoro Жыл бұрын
A very interesting presentation from Prof Kishore...Open Minded, Factual based..I think, Singapore has a great asset and a lot to learn from him.
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@johnnyguitar2929
@johnnyguitar2929 3 жыл бұрын
If the US government listens to Kishore, the world would be better off.
@EmilianButoi2
@EmilianButoi2 3 жыл бұрын
communist kills, - dont let you free! BESIDE THAT ASK THEM IS THIS AREA (MONGOLIA SOUTH WAS IT YOURS?) IT WASNT THEIR WALL IS BEHIND MONGOLIA SOUTH and now they force them to speak their language and have taken the books with their own mongolian language!
@user-us4hl3zr2b
@user-us4hl3zr2b 3 жыл бұрын
u.s.a brought matters of Xin Jiang but did not bring up Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq..... why? cause u.s.a bombed Syria and Iraq, australia murdered innocent Afghanistan people (where all of them are Islam and Muslim countries)
@rider2731
@rider2731 3 жыл бұрын
@@avalilley6505 Have you been smoking pot again?
@Mtmonaghan
@Mtmonaghan 3 жыл бұрын
@@avalilley6505 nonsense, hysterical propaganda
@PS-ic4bp
@PS-ic4bp 3 жыл бұрын
The US is completely dysfunctional- their demented president a sign of a demented and declining country - it may not look like it but in the next 20 years US will just be a second rung power with lots of nuclear missiles
@maryw1778
@maryw1778 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore demonstrates linguistic genius by delivering punches wrapped in humor.
@leochen887
@leochen887 3 жыл бұрын
Blame whom we wish, but what we are witnessing is the Abject Failure of the Indian Civilization, (such at it is and always will be), if truth be told. Blame whom we wish, but we are also witnessing the Abject Failure of India's body politic; India's Inability To Govern and To Benefit Their Indian People. www.economicsdiscussion.net/essays/main-causes-of-poverty-in-india/2277
@edinshealtiel3754
@edinshealtiel3754 3 жыл бұрын
@@leochen887 Try not to be dumb .....
@jordie4423
@jordie4423 2 жыл бұрын
and now we see Chinese incompetence. The decades of growth , funded by debt, are also coming to an end. Real estate is contributing 30% to the GDP. With the real estate bubble popping, China and the US have more in common than we could have predicted. Shit is about to hit the fan, the shiny sky scrapers are nothing more than a facade of a rotten system. It’s scary how fast the world economy (both the US and China) are u raveling
@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg
@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an American and this lecture opened my mind closer to understanding the Chinese perspective. And I wondered how the British felt when they were no longer the center of the universe, maybe a short period of resentment followed by acceptance? Please be kind to the world China, America by all means is transitioning the power quite peacefully…..thus far.
@kandam5517
@kandam5517 2 жыл бұрын
i agree, we’re always so harsh to china when it doesn’t something bad but when it does amazing things no one barely talks about it, it has gone to such an extent where people blame china for things that are barely connected
@donaldduck1322
@donaldduck1322 2 жыл бұрын
If you look the history you will know that when a rising power collides with the current one, it usually ends with one side dismember. British, Soviet union etc, America is transitioning the power peacefully but that is because they are unable to do it differently. If America invade China decades ago surely China will be domed, but you never know since both side have nukes. Also i'm pretty sure its America that starts wars all over the world in the name of so called democracy and human right, how many wars did China wage?
@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg
@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg 2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldduck1322How can you speak about China waging wars when they have barely entered the world stage? Let's see how they will do after 100 years of economic and military dominance. The U.S by all means has performed tremendously in keeping world peace, and I contribute this to their ability to welcome immigrants from all over the world and their generosity in sharing wealth and knowledge through their education system.
@donaldduck1322
@donaldduck1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnknownUnknown-hg7xg US started a lot of wars even before enter the world stage, only 20 years in US history that not involved in war, 4 years from Jimmy Carter, a great man and 4 years from Trump period. Dont mention US was build on Indian's skull. The US did something good during WW2, but the majority contribution are made by Soviet Union and China if you check the casualties. Don't mention the war crime that US committed from Afghan, Bikini island, Iraq, Yemen, Vietnam, Syria, Palestine etc etc. And you think America is fighting for world peace? Your entire country is run by the military- industrial complex, you think they get this rich by maintain world peace? As for welcome the immigrants, you are the immigrants and Indians took you in, now what happened to them and how many of them left?
@patrickchilds2987
@patrickchilds2987 2 жыл бұрын
@@kandam5517 sadly many posters are taking a defensive position about China nut are unwilling to take a middle ground. The perception of the CCP as being the same as in the days of Mao is ridiculous. If only they would visit cities like Shanghai, see their infrastructure it would blow their minds. Perhaps meet Chinese people and talk to them they would get over this malice your seeing in posts.
@funnyguyinlondon
@funnyguyinlondon 2 жыл бұрын
Since this speech, the US-China relationship has deteriorated
@NeMayful
@NeMayful 3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to find that this is a refresh upload of the lecture at a time right after the recent US-China high-level talk.
@rontsang4308
@rontsang4308 3 жыл бұрын
The Chinese diplomats were decrying why the Americans would treat them with lectures and sanctions. Like Mr. KishoreMahbubani said, Chinese would want to show world the decency of our culture - we have a saying that "anyone comes through your door, is your guest and you should always treat him/her with courtesy and respect".
@Alex-ig2xr
@Alex-ig2xr 3 жыл бұрын
Harvard university want Biden administration to know what is the right way to deal with China.
@dagsmoko3889
@dagsmoko3889 3 жыл бұрын
At 21:30 KM is conflicted. He states the ccp as keeping Chinese nationalism in check, implying it is the Chinese people themselves who drive nationalism. Five years later it's more clear nationalism was driven by the ccp. Probably he believed the ccp would be successful greatly increasing nationalism( and a hatred of freedom and democracy) in the Chinese people; he was merely being duplicitous. What he didn't say was more important- that it is freedoms of individuals and groups, not democracy, that is the greatest threat to the ccp. Especially freedom of speech and association. KM's unwavering avoidance of the freedom arguments against the ccp detracts greatly from the worth of his views.
@traderloves6556
@traderloves6556 3 жыл бұрын
@@dagsmoko3889 I think it is better to break up China into different countries. We should sue China at the UN for anti-trust.
@nagabesar4163
@nagabesar4163 3 жыл бұрын
£pplppopppppppppppppppppppppppp
@anthonye4183
@anthonye4183 3 жыл бұрын
Proud to be a Singaporean. Thank you for your contributions and keep up the good work of trying to make the West understand, especially the US of the inevitable.
@donaldjoseph3903
@donaldjoseph3903 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore was removed from Dean LKY School of Public Policy to an obscure post.. what do you think?
@davidchen92127
@davidchen92127 3 жыл бұрын
I am more interested in what Singapore can do next since it has done a great job. Leading edge technologies were supposed to lead to next phase, but it is not working, why?
@mariposabay4006
@mariposabay4006 3 жыл бұрын
Inevitable what? China being a global bully?
@dagsmoko3889
@dagsmoko3889 3 жыл бұрын
Inevitable what?
@mariposabay4006
@mariposabay4006 3 жыл бұрын
@Boonhwee Sim He sounds like a salesman for PRC.
@ceceliachoo2764
@ceceliachoo2764 Жыл бұрын
Love this professor very much.Excellent and remarkable speech.👍👍
@kanlockmah6130
@kanlockmah6130 4 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@jzbgtiger
@jzbgtiger 2 жыл бұрын
To 十三鹰:there are surely many facts and logics in your posting. I enjoyed reading this posting. I would be very happy to see the original KZbin comments. For such a long quotation, it is better to recognize the original author by posting the link to the original Malaysian comment. Thanks.
@hijavaid
@hijavaid 3 жыл бұрын
Only after watching this entire event, what aspired in Anchorage Alaska 3 weeks prior makes perfect sense. Great world view
@chankwaichoi1
@chankwaichoi1 2 жыл бұрын
what did happen, i wonder
@metagde6402
@metagde6402 2 жыл бұрын
@@chankwaichoi1 they started fighting like kids ahahahaha Someone even leaked the footage The Uighur issue brought up but with americas track record with Muslims it was laughed off
@user-oj1im4xi5q
@user-oj1im4xi5q 3 жыл бұрын
No, we are far less developed than the United States. We still have a lot to learn. We still have many internal problems to solve, such as corruption, the gap between the rich and the poor, sustainable development, environmental problems, etc. (although we have made great achievements, it is still not enough for us). But we have a stable government, a reasonable mechanism for selecting officials, and a hard-working and united people. It is the consensus of the whole society that the government and the army serve the people. These are exactly what the West does not have and what the west is afraid of. The more afraid things are, the more they have to resist and lie.
@liza6162
@liza6162 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, I agree
@mickie2412
@mickie2412 3 жыл бұрын
So true👍
@astrolonim2032
@astrolonim2032 3 жыл бұрын
Damn he just does not miss lmaoo truly the consensus of the whole society that the government and the army serve the people
@eddyadityapradhan7960
@eddyadityapradhan7960 3 жыл бұрын
Lol China has Orwellian level Autocratic Dictatorship government ! Try fixing the mistakes of the CCP led Tinammen Square massacre first! Its very unfair for India to be compared with china because we are Democratric and our process is slow! Hopfully, China will soon be democratic like the rest of free world and move away from authoritative regimes...
@Mr-hn2bp
@Mr-hn2bp 3 жыл бұрын
China has succeeded in wiping out absolute proverty and is targeting simple proverty. I witnessed homelessness in a short block right across from the UN headquarter, more than 10 of them! Unfortunately, the situation didn't improve today. Average Americans are toiling along, going from paycheck to paycheck. The Chinese are very hard working which Kishore avoided to say. China was number one for millennia, not a couple of years. Chinese ships with sizes a hundred times Columbus's sailed as far as Africa seven times during the Ming Dynasty. How many countries are there back then? The South China Sea was part of China at least as far back as the Yuan Dynasty. Kishore was wrong about this.
@JC-kl1sw
@JC-kl1sw 2 жыл бұрын
I can say as a Chinese that he truly understands China.
@petervillalba3925
@petervillalba3925 Жыл бұрын
Ok pinky
@This_is_China
@This_is_China Жыл бұрын
just waitting 10 or 20 years,you guys will laugh louder and louder😀
@MissAwa515
@MissAwa515 Жыл бұрын
Glorify China? Kishore was sucking up the American audience so much with sweet words for the so called American political correctness here. I was gonna throw up😂
@woqunidaye
@woqunidaye Жыл бұрын
@@petervillalba3925 好的白皮虫豸
@pierremarckenley945
@pierremarckenley945 Жыл бұрын
@@MissAwa515 😅so funny
@chuhaowei44
@chuhaowei44 Жыл бұрын
33:15 It's so suprised to see Prof Ezra F. Vogel (傅高义) in this video as an audience. He is the most intelligent US sociologist in the field of Asian study.
@wll6777
@wll6777 6 ай бұрын
I thought he looks familiar😂
@benoitfan2712
@benoitfan2712 3 жыл бұрын
He even predicts the lack of global leadership in global pandemic. 39:43
@dyll1577
@dyll1577 2 жыл бұрын
This was from 2015!
@aussie.clippa
@aussie.clippa 2 жыл бұрын
Eye opening comments
@TheSejuice
@TheSejuice 2 жыл бұрын
the pandemic that originated in the same city as a virus lab that was researching the exact virus. you are right, the "leadership" 'there' complete fuck up (or well planned considering who suffered the most).
@SHsaiko
@SHsaiko 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSejuice proof? opinion≠truth
@knowahnosenothing4862
@knowahnosenothing4862 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a prediction when it's part of a plan.
@samahirrao
@samahirrao 3 жыл бұрын
For students who felt confused by long speech, the conclusion of speech is that US should stop aggressive unilateral actions. And if US stay bound to multilateral institutions China gets to peacefully rise to the top. And then..
@hoyle19771
@hoyle19771 3 жыл бұрын
So, why are you scared of this?
@aliezhasa9490
@aliezhasa9490 3 жыл бұрын
That's a childish comment.
@borano2031
@borano2031 3 жыл бұрын
"And then".... What? Please, tell us... Rgr
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoyle19771 why are you scared of this? 這句話是應該別人問你?否則怎麼叫做賤骨頭呢? 洋人像靜靜的貓,但凡盯上你了,你沒跑了,出手穩準狠 國人像叫囂壯膽的貓:白哥黑漢秀一下肌肉,跪地穩准快 我擔憂全球的反華高潮,還在後面,早點回去吧,賤骨頭同學,這裡不適合您啊 晚安
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 3 жыл бұрын
@Deplorable_Brian Hi ,Brian,I am sorry ,Although I am not happy for ur words , but I know that China is the most shameless and deceitful nation in the world, I feel soooo sorry for my nation.....
@henry_dschu
@henry_dschu 11 ай бұрын
Prof Kishore mahbubani knows China and Chinese so well, appreciated.
@stellabebes3999
@stellabebes3999 7 ай бұрын
Wow a politician that actually answers questions directly? This is unheard of in the US!
@suedong3573
@suedong3573 3 жыл бұрын
To my utter surprise that there is such talk in America soil, utterly different from anything from Washington, WSJ, New York Times, CNN. Kudo to Harvard.
@TROll-oe9ng
@TROll-oe9ng 3 жыл бұрын
@Blue Radio Our politicians love to arm and train our future enemies to fight our current ones. Gotta keep the wheel rolling!
@suedong3573
@suedong3573 3 жыл бұрын
Try to build friends, not enemies.
@ziggyelliott8094
@ziggyelliott8094 2 жыл бұрын
Kishore is a class act in strategic thinking around the East Asia topic, which few others in Singapore able to match - and always articulated brilliantly and politely. Have a read of his books...................
@TesterBoy
@TesterBoy 2 жыл бұрын
He is brain dead. He knows jack shit how inefficient and corrupt a crony capitalist-communist system is in Communist China.
@aliendude4064
@aliendude4064 2 жыл бұрын
@@TesterBoy yet that corny capatilist communist country has less people in poverty than US and they have 4 times the population of US and 4th hat too in a very short time.
@patrickchilds2987
@patrickchilds2987 2 жыл бұрын
@@TesterBoy Your post was pretty brain dead . Wierd as China is often used in business schools as the model of economic growth. Im guessing from your comment you didnt go to business school, or actually visited China. Sure China has corruption and has its problems. However the United States has it's own corruption and inefficiency. I suggest actually reading the book the talk based on before posting criticism of Kishore and perhaps you you might be able to contribute to te subject
@ragnarokofborg
@ragnarokofborg Жыл бұрын
@@patrickchilds2987 What was "Reality Check"'s comment *about*? The post was so brain dead it got deleted..
@cakecatgaming2400
@cakecatgaming2400 Жыл бұрын
@@ragnarokofborg That guy Reality check is just a troller funded by the US congress to spread false information about china..
@liaojohnweechun7454
@liaojohnweechun7454 Жыл бұрын
Watched the video once again after I year and still finds Kishor Madubhani a Brillant and Phenominal Speaker. 👍👏👏👏👏
@gauriblomeyer1835
@gauriblomeyer1835 Жыл бұрын
Admirable discussion, very good questions and excellent answers.
@PeterSodhi
@PeterSodhi 3 жыл бұрын
"When will the Dali Lama come back to Tibet?" - when will Snowdon be allowed back to the USA!
@nightster6378
@nightster6378 3 жыл бұрын
When will Julian Assange be released?
@level1selamat155
@level1selamat155 3 жыл бұрын
Tmrow. Why Mr Singh?
@lzeng78
@lzeng78 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the chinese gov't's position is he can go to china whenever he wants. He was always allowed to go back to contribute to what he can to make Tibet more prosperous. But he needs to understand that he needs to stop all separatist activities w/ supports from foreign gov'ts and other covert entities including so called "NGOs" (american, Europeans, Indians, etc) to undermine the Chinese govt and nation, of course. It is very generous deal that the US gov't would never give, if the roles were reversed. For example, if the former ruling heir of Hawaii wants to secede and have tried w/ foreign help (including covert military support). The US would have just killed him as a terrorist long time ago. And that person, like Bin Laden, won't even have a burial place.
@navinstrument8353
@navinstrument8353 3 жыл бұрын
How tibet is taken over by china is quite interesting
@georgeinjapan6583
@georgeinjapan6583 3 жыл бұрын
Good if both can happen.
@liangyige5759
@liangyige5759 2 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed by this lecture. Hope more scholars like Kishore can give lecture to Harvard students and reduce western bias against China. In that way, the bilateral relationship will progress in a much better way. Can’t imagine anything unattainable if America and China work together.
@enriquepanganiban2103
@enriquepanganiban2103 5 ай бұрын
it is attaunable with the recent visit of President Xi Jing Ping extending Peace & Cooperation to work objectively with the US. 😍
@sinyeye5579
@sinyeye5579 4 ай бұрын
​@@enriquepanganiban2103😮😊
@felixlaupc
@felixlaupc 3 ай бұрын
It will not happen and it will never happen. The US will resort into all underhand tactics such as sanctions and warmongering. As witness from the latest development, the US government wanna ban sales of EV battery from China citing EV batteries can spy on US soil! 🤣
@hayden1770
@hayden1770 2 жыл бұрын
China is already the largest economy in the world in purchasing power, since 2015. It's about $6 trillion bigger than the U.S. The U.S. economy is only bigger if you count nominal GDP (which is a complete joke in how it's defined). There was almost $800 billion in trade between the two countries in 2021. The majority of the 21st century will be dominated by China. The industrial revolution that started in Britain 200 years ago and spread to America, western Europe, and later in Japan and other parts of Asia, that genie is out of the bottle and will be impossible to put back. China is industrialized, technologically advanced, and growing rapidly. If there's anyone who thinks they can stop it, just read them the story of King Canute and the Tide.
@hayden1770
@hayden1770 2 жыл бұрын
@@vitaboost For most of the last 1500 years up until the western powers industrialized which gave them a quick temporary leg up. Now lots of countries are industrialized and modernized.
@artyzinn7725
@artyzinn7725 Жыл бұрын
This talk was in 2015, how much has changed. Since Nixon, US policy was make China the good friend, the anchor of stability in Asia and 2015 was at the tail end of this policy. Now, as is well known, US military is focused on China, says it all. It would be good to revisit the projections of this talk over the next decade.
@Jell0zz
@Jell0zz 2 жыл бұрын
The most aggravating part of any Harvard lecture is their 10 minutes of circlejerking pre-lecture.. 🤢 Feel free to skip to 9:30 and not miss anything.
@brucemckay6615
@brucemckay6615 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@Dontdothat5300
@Dontdothat5300 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@yinlongliu2968
@yinlongliu2968 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@alihamdani6605
@alihamdani6605 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@simonmccamus7817
@simonmccamus7817 2 жыл бұрын
You're a mensch. Thank you for the tip.
@victorkmlee
@victorkmlee 3 жыл бұрын
What an apt observation by Kishore when asked about the US media perspective of the world in general (47:06) - "There is an incestuous self referential discourse among the newspapers, journalists... they reinforce each others' perspectives and end up misunderstanding the world .. the era of western domination of world history ... is coming to an end.". Basically, with the rise of China and developing world, the access of social media, internet and widespread availability of the alternative news (not fake news) the Western narrative is increasingly being challenged and exposed.
@STELLASCUTENESS
@STELLASCUTENESS 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more. China is caving, and the West will dominate another century.
@victorkmlee
@victorkmlee 3 жыл бұрын
@@STELLASCUTENESS I think you live in an alternate world, reality and universe. Your answer just reinforced the point made by the speaker Kishore.
@richardpate-cranium5282
@richardpate-cranium5282 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorkmlee Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a barrier of great censorship regarding the inflow and outflow of information penetrating the Chinese border due to its blanket ban on independent media and major social media networks? Again, I'm not well versed in this area so please feel free to rectify my assertion. I am also in full congruency with regards to what the incestuous self referential discourse is doing to the flow of information in western media.
@rap3208
@rap3208 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardpate-cranium5282 There is no blanket ban of foreign media in China. Facebook, KZbin, etc. were not banned, they voluntarily withdrew when China asked them to comply according to their policies. This was the time when Terrorrists in Xinjiang were using Facebook and other platforms in coordinating their movements/actions. Before that, they were in China. New York Times and some other US news media I think were banned in the midst of the pandemic last year for repeatedly distorting the news about China. BBC was just banned early this year in retaliation for UK's banning their CGTN.
@toddmaggio2032
@toddmaggio2032 3 жыл бұрын
This man is a shameless liar. He is being paid by the CCP to act as their mouthpiece and to pool wool over the eyes of the world. Only six years after he delivered his speech it has become clear that the CCP has global ambition, but the way of doing that is nefarious through bribe, extortion, predatory lending, honey trap and unrestricted warfare, such as unleashing deadly viruses to kill millions. To learn the truth about their plan listen to this CCP member kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4qrkJuLopZ-fZo
@gabrielkokolo4251
@gabrielkokolo4251 2 ай бұрын
Perfect lecture
@jaimealvarez9242
@jaimealvarez9242 2 жыл бұрын
Very truthful , smart man C that coming 40 years ago. My education elementary, farm worker
@hungmanxxxx2462
@hungmanxxxx2462 3 жыл бұрын
50:24 China invited KISHORE to Beijing to ask for his observations on 'What foreign policy mistakes China made?' ....the US never invited Kishore to Washington for his views lol ..... speaks to the arrogance of the US!
@simonyap6422
@simonyap6422 3 жыл бұрын
Coz America government is a arrogant regime
@11parmalat
@11parmalat 3 жыл бұрын
Coz Washington never made a mistake
@hg1288
@hg1288 3 жыл бұрын
Washington did invite Lee Kuan Yew to speak to their Congress
@xenuburger7924
@xenuburger7924 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore probably would have recommended tackling corruption -- the entire business of Washington.
@josephcheng4004
@josephcheng4004 3 жыл бұрын
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@user-im8yj9br3s
@user-im8yj9br3s 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese, I think it’s more than good for western and eastern people to understand each other more. We still have a long way to go, and even so, we’ll always be a responsible country.
@yttean98
@yttean98 3 жыл бұрын
Majority of the people in the west do think like that, domination or 'obey' is one of the few words they like to use as a key path to success in this world.
@waynejohn4614
@waynejohn4614 2 жыл бұрын
不要哈七搭八。 侬自家都不了解侬自家
@joshua2daniel
@joshua2daniel Жыл бұрын
the iran-saudi arabi peace agreement in mar 2023, just answered the first question
@yfkwan4145
@yfkwan4145 Жыл бұрын
I have no disrespect to the speaker, in fact, he is one of the few great ones that I would recommend him to the others without hesitation. Having said that, the topic "What would happen if China becomes number One?" is a little bit confusing as China (more exactly the ruling party CCP) has never and will not want to be number One. What they're always striving to achieve is to foster mutual prosperity and respect among nations, no matter a country is rich or underprivileged. In the history of CCP, China has never and will continue not to colonize any other country.
@aison2735
@aison2735 Жыл бұрын
It should be CPC
@chenxin4741
@chenxin4741 3 жыл бұрын
The speaker sounds so peaceful. Thank you! We just want our lives to be improved. We should not incite wars any more. All people deserve peace.
@Rex-ww4cw
@Rex-ww4cw 3 жыл бұрын
@SASA SASA go to Xinjiang and look it by yourself before commenting
@1Invinc
@1Invinc 3 жыл бұрын
@SASA SASA Now here's the thing isn't it? The Nazis wouldn't have allowed any allied powers to see what was happening. Meanwhile the Chinese are begging people to see Xinjiang for themselves. Big difference no?
@PS-ic4bp
@PS-ic4bp 3 жыл бұрын
Say that to India idiot. Brutal violent country
@tcyin1
@tcyin1 3 жыл бұрын
Give the damn SCS back.
@xianliu9510
@xianliu9510 3 жыл бұрын
@SASA SASA you can say that to the uighers all day every day. Their population count, life expectancy, education level, and income level have all improved since CCP became the ruling party of China. At least get your facts straight before you make a comment, if you are unwilling to go there in person to investigate. After all, no one is banning you from visiting xinjiang lol.
@rayqq674602808
@rayqq674602808 3 жыл бұрын
Much much respect to prof.mahbubani, this might be the greatest Q&A session I have ever heard period. He’s shown so many inspiring perspectives which enlightened me that the biggest resistance towards politics has to be the limitation of thinking “angles”, so many politicians are constrained by he mentioned self referencing discourse or I would call it both egoist and arrogant thoughts. If we really keen to understand the world, we need to accept the world first
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
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@DianaCaroleHartSistaSoulJaHart
@DianaCaroleHartSistaSoulJaHart 10 ай бұрын
​@@indiasuperclean6969 q
@NobodyNobody0508
@NobodyNobody0508 2 жыл бұрын
“When I turn on the television I feel that I’ve been cut off from the rest of the world “😂
@inderaputra2846
@inderaputra2846 Жыл бұрын
Well done, the 13th Eagle , cheers to you for the history lesson and the truth hard facts!
@user-nu7sg5gu4e
@user-nu7sg5gu4e 3 жыл бұрын
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@jessicadaniel316 3 жыл бұрын
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@raysonlogin
@raysonlogin 3 жыл бұрын
The CC generated by AI is mostly accurate - at least to me it's better than no CC at all.
@JnSobre
@JnSobre 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys want to kiss his foot?
@joyzhou1604
@joyzhou1604 2 жыл бұрын
Did you read this book online named: "How the specter of communism is ruling our world"? it is kind of so popular now, I also found its 10 Ep. series on KZbin, it shows the answer of why the US is on the way to communism now, I was shocked by the truth mentioned in this book&video.
@kakayou546
@kakayou546 3 жыл бұрын
50% of americans never had a passport, 11% have never left the state they were born in.
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 3 жыл бұрын
99% of Indians do not have passport. 90% of Chinese do not have either. When you have a vast nation with great beaches in Florida or Hawaii. Great skiing. Thousands of national parks. Hundreds of man made entertainments like Disney or Las Vegas, why do you have to leave. America is 3 times the size of India. With varied climate too. Artctic, subarctic, temperate, subtropical and tropical. Smaller nations do not have that luxury. Hence people have to travel. Plus reasonably good infra to travel within the nation.
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 3 жыл бұрын
In any nation for that matter. There will be many people do not move. There are generations of people in India who probably did not move across districts in India. In the same state I am talking
@alohatic
@alohatic 2 жыл бұрын
It's the "slow gradual boiling cooking of the frog in water." China is slowly raising the temperature of water to acclimatize the frog till it's boiling itself to death.
@robbo9982
@robbo9982 4 ай бұрын
Kudos to him for talking so openly and directly about the US right from their own turf.
@CJ-re7bx
@CJ-re7bx 4 ай бұрын
Wow, it's almost like there is freedom of speech or something. Crazy.
@randomVlog555
@randomVlog555 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading the great lecture from 2015 .
@lllsofia6210
@lllsofia6210 3 жыл бұрын
from 2015? not 1 math ago?
@randomVlog555
@randomVlog555 3 жыл бұрын
@@lllsofia6210 Yes
@lllsofia6210
@lllsofia6210 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomVlog555 👏 wow! then he is really a supper smart Indian. he can even foresee better than many Chinese leaders.
@randomVlog555
@randomVlog555 3 жыл бұрын
@@lllsofia6210 Isn't it a good thing ! I am glad that he could lend a fresh perspective to the opposites
@joyzhou1604
@joyzhou1604 2 жыл бұрын
Did you read this book online named: "How the specter of communism is ruling our world"? it is kind of so popular now, I also found its 10 Ep. series on KZbin, it shows the answer of why the US is on the way to communism now, I was shocked by the truth mentioned in this book&video.
@loozhenghaoupm5830
@loozhenghaoupm5830 2 жыл бұрын
What a great great talk and sharing from Mr Kishore! I've learned a lot from the sharing and I'm looking forward to his other sharing as well.
@thehumbleworldtrotter691
@thehumbleworldtrotter691 2 жыл бұрын
excellent and brilliant analysis.
@alexzhang1017
@alexzhang1017 6 ай бұрын
Great person and wisdom person. What he said is quite objective. China has democracy,It is the China-style democracy not the western style.
@hemchandhurhangee484
@hemchandhurhangee484 3 жыл бұрын
This is the result of having a superiority complex and looking down on everybody.
@Miodrag.Vukomanovic
@Miodrag.Vukomanovic 3 жыл бұрын
America rose in prominence as a result of having helped win WW1 when being allied with Serbia, a country which sponsored terrorism (Black Hand) and their downfall was because of terrorism were they got baited into attrition just like the USSR.
@panama2468
@panama2468 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miodrag.Vukomanovic america rode on the coattails of the USSR in ww2. And what kind of nations attempt to take central Asia after a regional superpower fails? Not too bright
@snoopdogg7407
@snoopdogg7407 3 жыл бұрын
@@panama2468 are you bright?
@panama2468
@panama2468 3 жыл бұрын
@@snoopdogg7407 I mean, does somebody need to be bright to post historical facts?
@dvidfmar
@dvidfmar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miodrag.Vukomanovic America rose economically because of it's large land territories and huge natural resources. They had the largest steel production in history. And being away from conflict(World Wars) helped a lot as well.
@wb6csh
@wb6csh 3 жыл бұрын
What Kishor Mahbubani, who is lecturing here, is saying is most probably true. I've been aware that the USA's downward financial slide since Aug. 15, 1971 has been caused by USA's total disregard for basic financial stability practices within their country. The unilateral disconnection of the US Dollar from the gold standard by Nixon in 1971, despite international agreements, was only the beginning. Our (USA) inability to balance our budget, stay within our fiscal limitations and have a relatively harmonious relationship between our two political parties "scares" some of the foreign purchasers of our national debt. I believe we show signs of "circling the drain".
@tyronewillins8486
@tyronewillins8486 Жыл бұрын
@Moonland Almond gģgr
@Fr.VeniceLAI
@Fr.VeniceLAI Жыл бұрын
..despite China's long history., however in the last some 70 years of PRChina’s recently history, PRChina had become so extreme impoverished, where tens of Millions Chinese Citizens died from starvation & deprivation during the 1950-1960s Great Leap Forward Policy..and multi-Millions more Chinese Citizens perished during the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s-1970s. Only, after the 1972 Richard Nixon visit to Beijing to meet Chairman Mao and following Mao's death in 1976, the late-Paramount Leader Deng Xiaopeng then implemented "Capitalist economic reform” and “opening-up reform”, to permit China companies & its private citizens to accept foreign investments, set-up Citizens' privately owned businesses, as well as foreign JVs, that the economic development of China commenced and progressed forward rapidly, departing from the EXTREME Poverty Status, which were direct results of the disasters & failures of previous CCP policies implemented (1949 - mid 1970s). The USA-CHINA friendly relationship following visit of Richard Nixon, eventually led to the U.S.A. under then President Bill Clinton, in 2000, to convince the U.S. Congress to approve/grant permanent MFN trading status to PRChina, which provided the PRChina accession to full W.T.O. membership in 2001. Following, China's W.T.O. status, hundreds of billions$$ of FDIs inflowed annually into PRChina, along with massive unprecedented transfering of tech know-hows and manufacturing from Western /Japanese/S.Korean/Taiwanese etc. companies & factories, established into PRChina, making the country as the World's Manufacturing Center Hub and also the main Global Supply Chains Hub. It propelled PRChina's GDP then in 2001 at just only USD1.2 Trillion to reach USD 17.5 Trillion in 2021. Present times, PRChina has already clearly indicated that it does not anymore adhere nor to follow to the U.S. Led World Order, (as evidently conveyed publicly during, perhaps the most historic & openly frank (international broadcasted) exchanges between China - U.S.top officials, at the Anchorage Meetings, March 18-19, 2021. i.e. PRChina will actively desire to disengage from this U.S. Led Order and to seek to replace the U.S.Dollar’s World Premier Reserve Currency status with RMB. This is obviously an EXISTENTIAL THREAT signal to all American Politicians and to U.S. Citizens. Opine, moving forward, it will be interesting to observe how PRChina be able to once again manage those incredible high economic growth rate, without the previously un-restrained backing & support (financial and Techs IAs etc.) of U.S. and Western Countries & its allies, as PRChina moves away & disengages from the U.S. economic umbrella with PRChina forges its own Sphere of Influence to generate & create its own economic and geo-political development. Perhaps, a new Bi-Polar or even Multi-Polar World Orders is being created. One thing is certain, whatever, this new situation or different New World Orders be created, the once relatively stable World economic growth model status, since ending of WWII in 1945, led by U.S. Hegemony may not return. With de-globalization of manufacturing and de-globalization of raw material sourcing…..shortages of all essentials and cost of such essentials raw materials & as well as those commonly used household manufactured goods will be impacted. Worse, present time as at Dec. 27-2022, current Covid & medical & domestic economic Crises happening simultaneously/concurrently in PRChina, have now clearly exposed the incompetency of the CPC- Government's ability to prepare for contingency nor capability to manage in a difficult serious crises status. Reports coming -in, even when Citizens making emergency calls for police and ambulances emergency services , these are now left unanswered in most parts of PRChina, including the Capital Beijing. Opine, such is the state of affairs in present times PRChina, it will have likely serious ramificiations on future PRChina's Investment Profile and Country Risk Level Assessment, to attract the desperately required future & further FDIs and other Foreign Investments into China’s based Assets, equities, China Government Sovereign (SSA) Bonds etc.
@chubascomohd2688
@chubascomohd2688 Жыл бұрын
Tiananmen incident caused by far more misery than the great leaps forward and the cultural revolution combined. You should not forget this part.
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 Жыл бұрын
I like China to be No 1 too so that the world market become more active and lucrative!
@spartaotano1906
@spartaotano1906 Жыл бұрын
Most of the people & countries will always have their hatred to China, but me. I'm one of a few people that love and admire China as a country. A lot of lesson that we can learn from them. I don't know what it's all about with all those hatred towards them. British with their sins. Spanish with their sins (almost entire Indigenous people of South America were killed). French with their sins (read what they did to Haiti). Japan with all their sins (those killing & rape thing in Nanjing & all of Asia). US of A (do I have to write what they've done here?). But people never hate them. That's western propaganda for you. Keep growing & rising China. Warm greetings from Indonesia.
@TheEnzedone
@TheEnzedone 11 ай бұрын
Don’t waste your time trying to convert muppet Trumpers.
@sudhanshusharan5720
@sudhanshusharan5720 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant lecture by Mr. Kishore. It’s the first time I have listened to him but, brilliant. Eye opening in some respects
@zhoubaidinh403
@zhoubaidinh403 2 жыл бұрын
If India can become 25 of US GDP...the Salut my Brotha!
@jordie4423
@jordie4423 2 жыл бұрын
and now we see Chinese incompetence. The decades of growth , funded by debt, are also coming to an end. Real estate is contributing 30% to the GDP. With the real estate bubble popping, China and the US have more in common than we could have predicted.
@lamunsoleil2609
@lamunsoleil2609 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordie4423 Don't you think that China has been making its economy grow more slowly to a sustainable level, after leaning from Japanese burst in 1990s?
@gazz01
@gazz01 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordie4423 actually this is what western youtube, politicians think about China. you need some intelligence to understand that debt is nothing in comparison to growth. Watch lessons by different economists in India, Japan,South Korea, Turkey and Indonesia to understand the big picture. Actually It needs lot of research to come out of western propaganda
@danielchuma369
@danielchuma369 2 жыл бұрын
We .
@seafood_hater
@seafood_hater 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing his accent makes me proud to be a Singaporean. Thank you, Professor Kishore Mahbubani for your wisdom.
@gerryward6931
@gerryward6931 3 жыл бұрын
He speaks so clearly!
@Andrew-ib7gs
@Andrew-ib7gs 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerryward6931 He does lah
@nr9926
@nr9926 3 жыл бұрын
He is an indian
@whistlebloer8254
@whistlebloer8254 3 жыл бұрын
I needed to increase the volume of my hearing aids to max. Then came the commercial. Now I need to go back to my doctor to have my ears reexamined.
@gracewright7938
@gracewright7938 3 жыл бұрын
I'm proud of him and I'm not Singaporean. His accent is very nice.
@michaelquah8411
@michaelquah8411 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you so much sir!
@JolynZhao-zr3xo
@JolynZhao-zr3xo 8 ай бұрын
As a Chinese rubber machine factory, we are doing better and better. Welcome friends from all over the world for cooperation.
@Ldsyldsy
@Ldsyldsy 3 жыл бұрын
Kishore is not only very intelligent but he understands China well. The Chinese culture does not have that “missionary” mentality and a Chinese is often surprised/shocked at the missionary zeal of western countries in both religion and colonization of other lands. Two dominant philosophical schools ingrained in the Chinese thinking is Confucianism, which values harmony of nations, and Buddhism, which values peace and interdependence; both schools looks down upon forcing others to believe in your ideology or way of doing things. Confucius said, “To rectify your mistakes is to do great good,” so it is not surprising that Kishore was invited to China to point out their policy mistakes. China has made huge mistakes, but it is on a constant learning path. On the other hand, the US is so proud of its achievements that it has blinded itself. Its reaction to China rising is to demonize China instead of objectively looking at what it has done right. Many Americans accuse China purely on the ground of being “communist”, when they don’t even know what that term means in current Chinese government. The CCP has reinvented and realigned itself so many times that the only thing that didn’t change was the term “Communist” in its party name. Kishore pointed out that (one of) the greatest contribution of the US is to educate the best minds from the world in its universities. This is where the US’s true influence on the world is, not bullying other countries using force or the dollar.
@Jordan18561
@Jordan18561 3 жыл бұрын
If the Chinese government is ‘communist’ in name only why do they still make speeches about Karl Marx calling him the most important thinker in human history? Why does XJP extol Marx above Confucius?
@joey3291
@joey3291 3 жыл бұрын
why is youtube finally start promoting unbiased china-related contents?
@RFD16
@RFD16 2 жыл бұрын
Good Point. You know the saying: even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me 2 жыл бұрын
Because I think at this point the US actually is worried now and kinda gave green light for anti-China content.
@happyhappynuts
@happyhappynuts 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't anti China content. Since Harvard re-loaded this in came up in the feed. Whilst we are discussing this, in China there is O positive content about overseas. It's all rubbish from clickable Weibo articles, and brain washing from AI Weiwei
@kwoktony121
@kwoktony121 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyhappynuts Goods and bads are comparative. For example, Iran people democratically elected a strong government that believes Middle East belongs to those living in Middle East, instead of the US or Russia. Good for them but bad for the US. Meanwhile, you have to admit that it's quite difficult to find some positive content about the West. And as Putin says, "Don't blame the mirror when you're ugly."
@user-pr9vi4ze4j
@user-pr9vi4ze4j 2 жыл бұрын
While anti-China, neutral channels are also recommended. The algorithm is not perfect yet😝
@think-tank6658
@think-tank6658 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with last point on india ... I have seen in 90's and 2000..my parents and uncle where having great difficulty in jobs..working for less money money ..my average generation are earning 5- 10 times there salary and I can see myself in my own eyes ...amazing growth it is happening..example in 2021 india had 12 unicorn 🦄 startups ..everywhere people want to start something new product ,ideas and not settling for ordinary 🙂 😌 ..
@josephzhang1797
@josephzhang1797 Жыл бұрын
Indian is an amazing country. You people are doing great job around the world and now you bypassed U.K. In my view, there is a lot to learn from Indian and grow better.
@victorquinn8641
@victorquinn8641 2 жыл бұрын
Very objective, and wise man, keep the spirits.
@kitkam5003
@kitkam5003 3 жыл бұрын
MR Mahbubani is a man of wisdom, he is one of the rare intellectual that understands Chinese history and China in the 21st century. I look forward to reading his great books.
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 3 жыл бұрын
I think you Need to understand the current world situation. This is what a wise man should do.
@ningthoujamelvis6103
@ningthoujamelvis6103 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-lb1ry4yp1z I too have read world current issues. But for me personally, every media have different outlet and story to be told so as to glorify one. Perhaps, reading the root cause is far more crucial is a must before pointing one's finger (just a suggestion)
@toddmaggio2032
@toddmaggio2032 3 жыл бұрын
This man is a shameless liar. He is being paid by the CCP to act as their mouthpiece and to pull wool over the eyes of the world. Only six years after he delivered his speech it has become clear that the CCP has global ambition, but the way of doing that is nefarious through bribe, extortion, predatory lending, honey trap and unrestricted warfare, such as unleashing deadly viruses to kill millions. To learn the truth about their plan listen to this CCP member kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4qrkJuLopZ-fZo
@danluzurriaga6035
@danluzurriaga6035 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, China is not in a position to be a world leader of Western Culture. As he says, China must and is on a path to restore its own culture but its own culture was hollowed out (and devoured) by the cultural revolution. The only remaining vestiges of Chinese culture that could be a basis upon which to provide world leadership is Taiwan, and was in Hong Kong. Basically China needs to re-create its soul. And, by the way, the speaker vastly overestimates the status of Chinese military power. Will 150 countries invite Chinese presence for bases on their borders? America is present in 150 countries for good or for bad (but it is true) and China's military is present in zero countries. Also, although the US has been generous in the past in giving the Chinese military technology (for good or for bad), the US weapons systems are vastly superior. The speaker's expertise seems to be in economics and he makes many good points but he seems unaware of the huge gap in military technology between the two countries.
@toddmaggio2032
@toddmaggio2032 3 жыл бұрын
@@danluzurriaga6035 What the CCP means by cultural rejuvination is the communist ideology with Chinese characteristic. As you said they destroyed every trace of their own culture. For example, the CCP now realizes that they can make a big profit by manufacturing and selling the Chinese traditional medicine, but they destroyed that knowledge in the cultural revolution. So they are trying to relearn it from the Japanese who preserved it. Talk about irony.
@EclipticRaisin
@EclipticRaisin 3 жыл бұрын
So the statement is not “If China becomes number one”, it’s “When China becomes number one”. Good to know
@adilkhanindore
@adilkhanindore 3 жыл бұрын
@@amon5124 yes and trump is GOd agent
@Michael-qd1rj
@Michael-qd1rj 3 жыл бұрын
@@amon5124 yes, all the ccp bots and pro-china. then you can stfu
@jodikyo7101
@jodikyo7101 3 жыл бұрын
@@amon5124 You Americans hate Muslims and hate China, but you love Muslims in China the most, what hypocrisy!
@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320
@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 3 жыл бұрын
@@amon5124 you married her because you love playing on the submissive asian stereotype. As for how china feels about muslims, there are five times more mosques per capita than the US. And didn't they murder a million iraqis? Please, if you really care about muslims so much, just stfu
@TheBranjoez
@TheBranjoez 3 жыл бұрын
@@amon5124 Yeah.. were the Chinese the ones who obliterated Syria, Iraq, Afganistan and Libya? Were the Chinese involved in creating IS? You need to help your brains to read facts and not watch rubbish on the television.
@leonildearaujo2741
@leonildearaujo2741 2 жыл бұрын
The mics given to the public for questions have a normal sound, but the the mics of the stage which the guest speaker uses for their lectures are inaudible. Please, please fix the problem. Thank you.
@EMOtions12
@EMOtions12 2 жыл бұрын
Great insights and fair comments on both US and China 👍
@FortunateWildcat
@FortunateWildcat 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how and why this video of 2015 is only posted in 2021, but more importantly, is to attest how relevant even in today's context or not. I like Lee Kuan Yew's video as it has been proven time over and again, his words of wisdom do apply with the test of time. I suppose the same as with this one.
@zoomzoom3950
@zoomzoom3950 2 жыл бұрын
Posted on youtube in 2012, a lecture at University of Melbourne (AUS), entitled "When China Rules the World". Worth a look; many statements the speaker made we're seeing now. The West ruling elites and oligarchs enabled this, and were effectively Sun Tzu'd for decades. Welcome to the Chinese century. Enjoy the decline America, there's no going back, the golden age is behind us
@juliezhu7508
@juliezhu7508 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to a knowledgeable gentleman who speaks the truth. Thank Harvard Kennedy School so much for sharing this great video.
@joellis5915
@joellis5915 10 ай бұрын
Following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian KZbinr’s comment: By 十三鹰 1 year ago, That deleted. Re-Posting by me. 十三鹰 1 year ago I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once have they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy.m(Kissinger's At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. Minorities in China Show me any currency in the world which also prints the language of its ethinc minorities. Chinese bank notes show 5 languages of 5 minorities living in China, including Tibetan and Uyghur. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. Muslims students get Halal food at the university cafeteria. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievements and success have been by hard work. Not by looting and plundering the world. I have deep respect and love for China for all the suffering and the hardship they endured, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
@martabenavides5658
@martabenavides5658 Жыл бұрын
I wish this man and so many of the minds attending this lecture, to care to study discern on what is going on in El Salvador and the measures being taken on socio-economic-political- environmental and detained thousands under a regime of exception...for territorial control to deal with violence ..this is urgent, and now the citizen president of that country plans to go to Haiti and do the same...!?
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