The United States, China, and the Future of the Global Order

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NEW YORK, March 21, 2024 - Asia Society Policy Institute, in partnership with Perry World House at the University of Pennsylvania, hosts a discussion on the U.S.-China relationship and how it impacts global trends. Speakers include Kishore Mahbubani, 2023-24 Schlager visiting fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Perry World House; and Orville Schell, Arthur Ross director of the Asia Society’s Center on U.S.-China Relations. Rorry Daniels, managing director of Asia Society Policy Institute, moderates the conversation. (1 hr., 9 min.)
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@siokkimtan2020
@siokkimtan2020 Ай бұрын
I am from MELAKA, Malaysia. Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
@Liboch
@Liboch Ай бұрын
Actually China has been trading with this region for thousands of years. If you are a history buff you will have to refer to the chinese records to know about this region historic past. Since Melaka was founded only in 1402, a chinese admiral, a trade envoy started to visit Melaka in 1403, a year after its establishment. Once the Europeans managed to find their way to this region, they started to invade the kingdoms. Except for Siam, all kingdoms in south east asia were conquered by the Europeans.. portuguese, spanish, dutch, french, english, american for more than 400 hundred years.
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Ай бұрын
For centuries, not years.
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Ай бұрын
Ha, ha, ha - the European "founded" Melaka and many other parts of the world. Before them, Melaka in the Malay peninsula was lost, unknown, non-existent (to who, I wonder?}
@jatinpatel1224
@jatinpatel1224 Ай бұрын
@@Liboch Malay King of sanatani heritage established his capital in Malacca. CCP has colonial tendency to rewrite history. They are brutal occupiers of Tibet, Yunnan, Uighur and Inner Mongolia. King Camboj established largest hindu temple complex which stand up as historical evidence that zionist CCP does not want to talk about like colonial europeans.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Ай бұрын
And that is why the west are known as barbarians
@ganboonmeng5370
@ganboonmeng5370 Ай бұрын
Well I am Singaporean..and most older Singaporean with some wisdom...will tell you otherwise. ..we see America as the trouble maker😅😊
@raykong3907
@raykong3907 Ай бұрын
And Singaporean are wise enough to not tell Americans in the face, and quite frank to China about their problems, which led to an impression that US is seen as a peace maker in the region.
@samliew6610
@samliew6610 Ай бұрын
Yes, evil warmongers
@blackjackpinoko
@blackjackpinoko Ай бұрын
Anglosphere Colonial DNA never dies.
@vinnyboy1976
@vinnyboy1976 Ай бұрын
Need to watch iron man. America is like Starks industry, need war to sell swords and shields to make money, not peace
@ankHank-fs1zr
@ankHank-fs1zr Ай бұрын
weapon export helps their economy. that is one motive for making troubles worldwide.
@2annec97
@2annec97 Ай бұрын
There's only one country in the world that passes judgement on the internal political systems of another country - what an exceptional country....🤣🤣🤣Respect to Kishore!
@annehealey9988
@annehealey9988 27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@fahrrurrozi686
@fahrrurrozi686 Ай бұрын
Indonesians here, the majority of Indonesians are of the view that any country that becomes a superpower country for Indonesian has no problem, as long as the country is fair and does not create chaos, unfortunately the USA does the opposite.
@user-ei3fp8yj5i
@user-ei3fp8yj5i Ай бұрын
chinese here(fake). all the chinese are of the view that any country that becomes a weaken country for chinese has no problem, as long as the country is faked and pretended, unfortunately the USA does the opposite.
@macculu501
@macculu501 28 күн бұрын
They did support Suharto!
@jeanneng8320
@jeanneng8320 6 күн бұрын
exactly!
@poohbaby233
@poohbaby233 Ай бұрын
I am from Taiwan. My view is can US stop interfering TW and China. Leave us alone!
@kriswang9620
@kriswang9620 Ай бұрын
no way. US will use any what it can use to prevent China. and obviously, TW is a best tool just like ukarine for RUSSIAN。 As a 新中国er, i kinda feel poor about tw
@danielchiayizhen92
@danielchiayizhen92 Ай бұрын
u think u are the player... buy u re the pawn... no... u are the board. sorry... truth hurts.
@jsim5933
@jsim5933 Ай бұрын
Tsai Ing-wen is like Zelensky of Ukraine being used by US in proxy wars. It will only lead to the destruction of Taiwan and deaths to Taiwanese while US is unscathed thousands of miles away. Please don't be fooled by US. See what has happened to Ukraine. 😢 And foolishly used by US to support their Military Industrial complex through huge military purchases.😮
@johnnydeng3488
@johnnydeng3488 Ай бұрын
no way, Taiwan is the best place to counter China now
@khqa3763
@khqa3763 Ай бұрын
taiwan problem are mainly from taiwanese , most of the taiwanese younger generation have been brainwashed by their local politician and social media that demonize china
@user-ly7rp4il7m
@user-ly7rp4il7m Ай бұрын
We are so proud of Kishore Mahbuhani not only as Singaporeans, but as world citizens.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Ай бұрын
I am so proud of Singapore who has produced Kishore and Mr Chew of TikTok CEO.
@mcgaretse77
@mcgaretse77 Ай бұрын
too bad... we SG still have a large numbers like Calvin cheng + Bihari... who are anti-china and muslim ...😂
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
Kishore say other countries not now dominated by superpowers.... unless that superpower is China or Russia
@limayanon
@limayanon Ай бұрын
He is talking like a dick
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
I am a Singaporean and I am not proud of this person. Please don’t speak for all Singaporeans.
@leahlee8291
@leahlee8291 Ай бұрын
If the US can only mind its own business and take care of its own people, rather than meddling in other countries’ affairs, the world will be a much better place.
@blahblah-yx7bl
@blahblah-yx7bl Ай бұрын
and usa will be a better place too
@iROChakri
@iROChakri Ай бұрын
That aint gonna happen. If USA didnt invade other countries, how could USA steal resources?
@petergreen5337
@petergreen5337 22 күн бұрын
❤exactly well said and well REASONED
@t.w.3198
@t.w.3198 20 күн бұрын
Because wars make business for the US leaders.
@zartic4life
@zartic4life 8 күн бұрын
That's not what empires do let alone being a sole empire for over a century. No the Soviet doesn't qualify. That's finally changed however with China a true economic competitor.
@ktleung2419
@ktleung2419 Ай бұрын
Orville' couldn't let go of the American exceptionalism. He was naïve on world politics thinking that America means the world. Good on Kishore giving him a lecture.
@bpeng2000
@bpeng2000 17 күн бұрын
You actually got the point. From the American' perspective, the US is the world, ASEAN is its backyard, and China is threatening its "world order".
@jasmineloi7345
@jasmineloi7345 Ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, I am so proud of my country and so proud of Kishore Mahbubani.
@troutstalker7855
@troutstalker7855 Ай бұрын
I'm not Singaporean, but, I think SG is a wonderful country as a whole and kishore has demonstrated once again what a pro and an amateur looks like.
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 Ай бұрын
Singapore has a lot of brilliant people. My favourite politician and leader is Mr. Lee Kuan Yew.
@kongkong1364
@kongkong1364 Ай бұрын
be warned, usa has increasing influence on sg gov
@ggc7318
@ggc7318 Ай бұрын
Sorry, Kishore is the biggest smiling snake. The USA and the West are not perfect , but China ?
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Ай бұрын
Really??
@guyzer7006
@guyzer7006 Ай бұрын
I’m amazed …who has military bases surrounding China…who is the aggressor..Orville is so out of touch..anyway Kishore has this covered!!
@stevenkwan5589
@stevenkwan5589 Ай бұрын
USA could not always good but they do the right thing to contain China and North Korea after end of WW2 ! USA projected ahead of time what communism is about and cannot be trusted! Their 1st/2nd island chain is to contain China and is right that this is in place when u see what China is doing under Xi Jinping! Having USA intervene in this east part of the world is correct cos never let communism dictate this part of the world ! I rather have USA involved against China …simple
@RaymondLi604
@RaymondLi604 Ай бұрын
STEM + geographic deficiency 💊
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Ай бұрын
He has to be careful not to antagonise America too. Listen to how he lavished admiration of America. Listen to how he praised the American president whom many Americans are not even so generous. Unlike the American guest, he literally condemned the Chinese President. Now that is not tact, not diplomacy of learned professors.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Ай бұрын
I have the same thought too. And Kishore preferred Biden over Trump will put Kishore in bad light as Trump did not like Kevin Rudd, the Australian rep to US too.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
Do you know that the Chinese can only build the Tiananmen Square Massacre Memorial in the United States? Because it is illegal to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, and you will be arrested and imprisoned.
@guytruth5598
@guytruth5598 Ай бұрын
Kisore is the most sane, just,righteous without bias,partial and an intelligent brave speaker of all times.
@atky7032
@atky7032 Ай бұрын
Thanks for inviting Orville to debate with Kishore. Orville's naive viewpoints have enabled Kishore to bring out the best of his wisdom when responding to ignorance. Answering questions calm and composed. The best part: 'When 1.4 billion Chinese people decide to become prosperous, nothing can stop them.'
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Ай бұрын
Orville invited Kishore. Asia Society is Orville's territory
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh
@ScoobieDoo-zy1rh Ай бұрын
@@thegracienetwork7847 Orville = token nonasian.
@atky7032
@atky7032 Ай бұрын
@@thegracienetwork7847 Seems like Kishore has made it his territory...
@lvjinbin28
@lvjinbin28 Ай бұрын
Americans talk about issues in China or around China, do you see Chinese talk about Black Lives Matter, Cuba, Mexico?
@SometimesIamNot
@SometimesIamNot Ай бұрын
China is too busy , but not at competing USA
@mervynhing
@mervynhing Ай бұрын
ALL the time
@snowlee-ml7rr
@snowlee-ml7rr Ай бұрын
In recent decades, Uncle Sam has devoted too much energy to dealing with the affairs of other countries thousands of miles away, but it has no solution to the problems within the United States (such as outdated infrastructure, drug problems, gun problems, racial issues, and political line issues, medical insurance issues, etc.), the collapse of the United States will start from within.
@deanzaZZR
@deanzaZZR Ай бұрын
@@mervynhingIn the news yes, In the FM's press conference, no.
@lvjinbin28
@lvjinbin28 Ай бұрын
@@snowlee-ml7rr Because it is the United States that is pushing those issues to be greater, like sending congressmen to stand with Hong Kong rioters, funding overseas Uyghur jihadists, arming Taiwanese separatists, encouraging the Philippines to confront China, and blocking the free trade area between China, Japan and South Korea. It's all Pivot to Asia containment. This is why the United States keeps talking about China, and the United States blames China for its wolf warrior diplomacy. Americans feels angry when they failed to bully China. The way the United States wants to maintain its hegemony is to trip up its opponents. It's the equivalent of putting nails in Bolt's shoes. But China still hasn't interfereed in foreign internal affairs on other nations, China does not fund Black Lives Matter, Proud Boys, does not station troops in Cuba, does not encourage Venezuela to threaten the United States, and does not regime-change Mexico to be an anti-American regime. If the United States can take advantage of China's shortcomings, China will try to improve it. be better yourself to surpass rival.
@bauyeung88
@bauyeung88 Ай бұрын
As a HKer, I’m very happy seeing my country China stands up to challenge the Win/Lose strategy initiated by US. Btw, I’m proud to be a Chinese.
@tayan6041
@tayan6041 Ай бұрын
You are not really a HKer.
@user-vf4hj3np8e
@user-vf4hj3np8e Ай бұрын
@@tayan6041well it's none of your business, right? that's what you think a HKer should be....
@curtiswong7280
@curtiswong7280 Ай бұрын
@@tayan6041 I'm a HKer too and I agree with him
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Ай бұрын
Sorry to say, you are not HKer but a Xianggangren. HKers don’t think like you.
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Ай бұрын
⁠@@user-vf4hj3np8eit’s none of your business neither. Stay away from KZbin.
@patrickchong6579
@patrickchong6579 Ай бұрын
Orville , to me, is just representative of the typical western 'China expert' . He's just shockingly amateurish and one sided. Professor Mahbubani, as expected is his usual self and performed fantastically. All in all, a very entertaining talk.
@homego7222
@homego7222 15 күн бұрын
arrogant, this is the reason why US will lost when compete witch china.
@cwpv2477
@cwpv2477 5 күн бұрын
hes just there to sell a narrative, no real prof could work and think that biased
@PrimeroCanale
@PrimeroCanale Ай бұрын
All of the problems expressed by Orville, will go away when the US stays out of it.
@alexhuang1734
@alexhuang1734 2 күн бұрын
smarty
@eng80425
@eng80425 Ай бұрын
I live in SEA and I actually am rooting for China to win and be equal to USA. USA should not be the making the decision for the world and for us any more. If required, USA should be allowed to fade... I am actually not comfortable with USA... In fact I had never comprehend why gun control is so difficult when tiktok ban can move so fast.....Strict gun control saves lives..their priorities baffles me and I cannot trust a superpower who cannot seems to figure out what is important
@aslampervez2294
@aslampervez2294 Ай бұрын
Orville can't observe usa backed genoside in Gaza but he is uncomfortable with xi jingping
@JCSY1
@JCSY1 Ай бұрын
Yes. I think most people in SEA have the same opinion. IF you follow the US, basically it means you have to live in their shadows and follow their every command to the dot. Failure to do so will result in sanctions, chaos and wars. Is this what most people really want ? I think most don't want that route. It is a BIG BULLY ideology and attitude that does not end well for others. The signs are all over the world.
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane Ай бұрын
Westerners have nothing but contempt for SE Asians.
@singularityagi5562
@singularityagi5562 Ай бұрын
Cannot agree more with you!!
@maxdc988
@maxdc988 Ай бұрын
The White elite needs the gun to protect themselves against the Black and Brown people in case there is a riot or anarchy. They have been fearing that dreadful "revenge" scenario since birth. 😁
@marcs5117
@marcs5117 Ай бұрын
Im comfortable with Chinas rise…from the Philippines
@petervote7914
@petervote7914 Ай бұрын
There is a rumor going around that U.S. would allow Marcos to access the stolen money and assets that Marcos' father stashed in U.S. if Marcos follows the anti China line. What are the pinoys' views on this?
@aloyd6157
@aloyd6157 Ай бұрын
of course, everyone knows.
@danielng4454
@danielng4454 Ай бұрын
Sensible bro 😊
@n23404
@n23404 Ай бұрын
You sure China gonna eat the baby eggs you guys eat at 12 days old eggs 😂😂😂
@kevinwu8751
@kevinwu8751 Ай бұрын
​@@n23404But America is actually really weak. Become a paper tiger. While boasting that they are the most powerful country in the world, they can't solve the drug problem that even the smallest country in the world can solve, and they can only blame others.😂😂😂
@Hipstove
@Hipstove Ай бұрын
The event should be advertised as having two moderators and one intellectual. 😂
@akclau
@akclau 11 күн бұрын
One moderator, one maestro, and ond moron.
@user-yw5wf6kz5t
@user-yw5wf6kz5t Ай бұрын
As a Singaporean, I am very comfortable to trade with China. Orville, don't put your words in my mouth, and please stay away from destabilizing our regional peace. I want peace and prosperity, that is what China brings to our table.
@kaimingraymondchoi9909
@kaimingraymondchoi9909 Ай бұрын
Always a great applause to Kishore. He speaks for 88% of the world population.
@simonlai7377
@simonlai7377 Ай бұрын
More than that, my friend.
@priyanshshrivastava9013
@priyanshshrivastava9013 Ай бұрын
All except g7
@KiriAatam
@KiriAatam Ай бұрын
No, doesn't. The Chinese may like him as his views are bent towards them. Educated Indians don't regard him well. He is thought of to be a Chinese puppet and don't know much about India but pretends to be an expert on Indian affairs.
@Howaretheygonnaknow
@Howaretheygonnaknow Ай бұрын
Kishore’s opinion is extremely biased, and I strongly advise him to relinquish his Singapore passport and move to the ideal country he promotes. Meanwhile, he portrays the US as a reluctant loser, desperately fighting to maintain its status, which just makes me want to laugh out loud, especially considering that the platform of KZbin, where he is active, was invented in the US. In short, this guy is nothing but a traitor to the free world.
@PanLi-of7ru
@PanLi-of7ru Ай бұрын
@@Howaretheygonnaknow Isn’t the United States a reluctant loser? In 2016, the United States tried to launch a war against China in the South China Sea, but China accurately reported the location of its aircraft carrier and the United States was forced to flee. Since 2018, the United States has launched a trade war and a technology war in an attempt to prevent China's development. However, China is still the largest trading partner of more than 100 countries today, and China has already made 7nm chips. What other means can the United States use? Isn’t America just a reluctant loser? What's more, the "free world" you mentioned refers to the one that bans tictok? Really funny.
@TheTruth-88
@TheTruth-88 Ай бұрын
Uncle Kishore always amazed me.. wise man talking.. full of knowledge, no BS, straight forward, and very informative. Every young people need to listen to him. The white old guy definitely full of BS, full of hypocrisy.
@Western_Decline
@Western_Decline Ай бұрын
@@rr-rickycry harder. West is in decline due to its intellectually inferior population
@Djursnerable
@Djursnerable Ай бұрын
Ah a racist bot.
@joy1ess
@joy1ess Ай бұрын
harvard graduate. he’s no joke 😌
@wilsonlee8904
@wilsonlee8904 Ай бұрын
Spot on !
@vbch1396
@vbch1396 Ай бұрын
​@@rr-rickyI fully agree with Kishores viewpoints. Frankly speaking many world conflicts are caused by the US involvement. Without the US involvement, most conflicts could be resolved by the parties involved.
@helen2666
@helen2666 Ай бұрын
Thanks Kishore for telling the truth. However, you are still too polite towards the China haters. Most western people did not really understand why Taiwan became the most dangerous place on earth. They blamed Xi on the tension between Mainland and Taiwan. The fact is that Xi and President Ma met around 2015 when the two sides were really very friendly because both sides agreed to adopt the ambiguity of the 1992 one China Consensus. Unfortunately, when the pro-independent DPP got the power, DDP tore this agreement and started to change the textbook trying to remove any histories of Taiwan related to Mainland China. This is indeed the first move of chinging the Status Quo. The people in Mainland watched DPP using the huge surplus (U$150B/year) with Mainland China to buy weapons from USA. Is it a surprise that Chinese would be angry? In fact, if China holds a referendum about if they want to use force to bring Taiwan back, the overwhelming majority would vote for using the military force. If Chinese people elects the next leader. He will have no chice but starting the reunification by force immediately. So, Xi is actually trying to calm down the angry of his people. In fact, Xi and former president Ma of Taiwan may meet again in Beijing this coming week to promote the friendly gesture. The western media purposely ingored all these because they are trying to demonize China and Xi. In fact, the ruling party ,DPP, in Taiwan and the USA are to be blamed for causing the tension. This is similar to what the troublemaker USA is pushing the NATO expansion and Ukrainians to fight to death for the hegemony of the USA. USA would like Taiwan to become the 2nd Ukraine. As far as the tension in the South China Sea, the troublemaker of the newly elected philipine president Marcos is provoking China as he has been encouraged by the USA (Phillipine is the 3rd Ukraine). Marcus obeys the order from USA because his huge family fund (US$5-10b per Wikipedia) has been frozen by the USA. Japan is another watchdog for the USA. Japanese soldiers killed over 20 million chinese in WWII and they still tries to wipe the criminal hehavors from their history books. Japan is a criminal nation as they just release the contaminated water from the nuclear reactor accident to the pacific ocean. The USA has been silent because the USA wants Japan (4th Ukraine) to contain China. So, be very careful about what the Western media are trying to protray about China and Xi because 95% are lies.
@CorneyKAlone
@CorneyKAlone Ай бұрын
Very good situational perspective.
@HewbhurtGabon
@HewbhurtGabon Ай бұрын
As Filipino, you are absolutely correct about Marcos jr being uncle sam's doggy because of his family's frozen ill-gotten wealth in US.
@seaoooo
@seaoooo 19 күн бұрын
非常全面的观点❤
@mileszhang5773
@mileszhang5773 18 күн бұрын
Reasonable,intellectual
@luyongler4634
@luyongler4634 14 күн бұрын
A very correct and comprehensive viewpoint, supporting you.
@davidbenjamin9953
@davidbenjamin9953 Ай бұрын
Way to go krishore , you totally speak out the truth about china and US . US have to accept and work together with china and make the better world for all . What US did in HK is a shame to democracy.
@gingermintrose
@gingermintrose Ай бұрын
Mr.Schell exhibits Western-biased narratives about China but is not apt to debate Mr. Muhabani. Thank you, Mr. Muhabani, for your cogent and realistic analysis outside Western media.
@SingaporeMJ
@SingaporeMJ Ай бұрын
Im seeing as an Asian biased narratives from Mr Muhabani.. He has a myopic view on China i guess.. i find Mr Schell has legit reasons to question China intentions.. Like covid/their wolf warrior tactics/debt trapping/disregarding some International laws and norms! Its too costly to trust China with its expansionistic behaviour..!!
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
Absolutely good job USA USA USA 🇺🇲
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Ай бұрын
One is a very wise and peace loving man, while the other is on second hand oxymoron.
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Ай бұрын
Your insecure bias against USA makes you sound small and silly
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
Muhabani analysis is based outside western media but well inside CCP state media
@yanmuikam6160
@yanmuikam6160 Ай бұрын
Hi Mr. Orville you are very wrong about Singaporeans . Many of us Singaporeans feel that USA is a bully and love to " dip it's fingers into everyone's pie" so to speak. We want to trade and lead a peaceful life and not impose our wills on others . Please mind your business and may GOD bless you !
@snowlee-ml7rr
@snowlee-ml7rr Ай бұрын
In recent decades, Uncle Sam has devoted too much energy to dealing with the affairs of other countries thousands of miles away, but he has no solution to the problems within the United States (such as outdated infrastructure, drug problems, gun problems, racial issues, and political line issues) , medical insurance issues, etc.), the collapse of the United States will start from within.
@loveblindhate9318
@loveblindhate9318 Ай бұрын
@@snowlee-ml7rr It is...Corp/banks/fed/lobby$ > govt. = oligarchy colonization
@angelalim0502
@angelalim0502 Ай бұрын
@@snowlee-ml7rr US is trying to export these problems to the other part of the world by finding likeminded individual who will help them with it and yet, sad to say, some weak minded are still falling into their trap….
@samleong749
@samleong749 Ай бұрын
US wants to rule over other countries but is blind to all the issues internal in the US itself.
@mcgaretse77
@mcgaretse77 Ай бұрын
sadly... Calvin cheng also represented a large of sgeans that supported USA wholeheartedly 😂
@VictorACYang
@VictorACYang 24 күн бұрын
If possible,I’d like Dr. Kishore to be the Secretary General of the UN. Perfect fit!
@larryhasgonefishing1374
@larryhasgonefishing1374 25 күн бұрын
"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down with to their level and beat you with experience" - Mark Twain Good job Professor Mahbubani !!!
@kamwong8118
@kamwong8118 Ай бұрын
The scholarship and patience of Kishore put to shame the folly and bias of Orville.
@sam123sder
@sam123sder Ай бұрын
Kishore is wrong in saying that only 12% of western population has a negative opinion of China and the rest of the 88% of the world has a positive opinion of China. It shows his bias clearly. India alone is a significant population of the world and their opinion of China is even pore negative than America’s, which Kishore conveniently ignores, despite his Indian roots.
@VChong1991
@VChong1991 Ай бұрын
Orville alreaddy made up his mind to bash China the moment he sat his pale ass down on that chair.
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Ай бұрын
Is there any evidence to support your view then?
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
In the eyes of Indonesians and Malaysians, Singapore is a Chinese colony. If Singapore and China get too close
@sxyline4807
@sxyline4807 Ай бұрын
@@sam123sderok, you can minus another 20 % of that India in that calculation and how much % is that? US math is any good these days? 😅
@LanceyOwen
@LanceyOwen Ай бұрын
The Orville guy is just a typical Anglo-Saxon "media" on China. Kishore is the only adult on the stage and he handled Orville beautifully.
@user-qq7qr2uf3z
@user-qq7qr2uf3z Ай бұрын
Bro you get the point 😂
@user-if1ur5td1x
@user-if1ur5td1x Ай бұрын
Lots of these old white Bois are scared as shit...
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
Where do Anglo-saxons come from? Kishore uses that 'racist' term. Maybe by CCP standards he did well. He wouldn't convience anyone else. The only slightly vieled threats that china, no longer the mouse - if ever it was - is now an elephant and needs more room. Make room or get rolled over. Threat threat facing American allies and non-allies a like.
@orangekeita
@orangekeita Ай бұрын
Anglo saxon is no racisium. You can call me an Asian. I wont be offended. So whats your problem here?😂 Is it not true that the five eyes are Anglo-Saxon run countries?​@@Andy-P
@orangekeita
@orangekeita Ай бұрын
I would say the host was doing fairly good job too. She's giving opportunities to both sides to ask and answer questions and no rude interuptions which you have often seen in this type of dialogue. I only hope it could be longer😂.
@jameshack485
@jameshack485 Ай бұрын
Orville Schell is completely condescending when he speaks of China and Asia overall. He thinks with a 20th century mindset and is ill prepared for dealing with China in the 21st century. He is a caricature of the hot-headed American who acts before he thinks. A complete neocon who is overly confident of America's capabilities because our last wars have been victories against Iraq and Afghanistan. He should review America's massive failures in Asia during the Vietnam and Korean conflicts. I'm heartened to hear diplomats like Mr. Mahbubani who are much calmer and thoughtful in their speech. China is on the rise and there's not much America or the West can do about it.
@RSydneyChan
@RSydneyChan Ай бұрын
It seems to me that this other guy does not know much about China. He kept mentioned about the Tiananmen massacre when everyone knows that there is no massacre in Tiananmen Square and that that was a failed Color Revolution started by the US.
@michaelloo8985
@michaelloo8985 Ай бұрын
Kishore is excellent.. can't say much about Orville who went off his supposed talk but just attacked venomously at Kishore for his rational and insightful views. Kishore is calm, elegant, composed and as usual brilliant in his reponse. Well done, Kishore
@steveyeung4797
@steveyeung4797 Ай бұрын
"Orville who went off his supposed talk but just attacked venomously"
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
​@@steveyeung4797just remember either the United States wins or everyone will lose.
@ytfanlingeric
@ytfanlingeric Ай бұрын
Orville is so anti-China that he did not show much professionalism.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@alvinchua9436
@alvinchua9436 Ай бұрын
Not sure how Orville can be a China Expert when he only represented 12% of the population and has no Geopolitical view of what is happening outside US. He is so self-centred and unprepared. Like what someone mentioned here, he has no stand to what he is saying. I do hope that he knows where Singapore is on the map as 80% of the Americans don't even know where Singapore is. Asians are definitely not more comfortable with US. In fact, Asians are the true believer of free trade and fair competiton.
@ptan4120
@ptan4120 Ай бұрын
Kishore is a gem of mankind and a beacon of humanity.
@mervynhing
@mervynhing Ай бұрын
pathetic level of stupidity in this comment despite Mahbubani's exposed nonsense over the past decade. How do you do it?
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
Kishore is a wumao CCP shill.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
​@@mervynhingyes they should have never wasted their time bringing Kishore on the show knowing that he's a CCP shill.
@nizicike759
@nizicike759 Ай бұрын
​@@mervynhing only pathetic here is you ,don't be shame and admit it
@Youevilpeoplewillpay
@Youevilpeoplewillpay Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SH-np8hz
@SH-np8hz 20 күн бұрын
I am a proud S’porean. Great respect to Mr. Kishore. Next time pls invite someone who is competent or on par with Mr Kishore. Don’t waste his time. Mr. Kishore was calm and took the stage very well. Love his analogy of BOAT. Lastly, I have no problem dealing with China or any country.
@AndrewHuang-hq6in
@AndrewHuang-hq6in Ай бұрын
Just want to say that, Dr. Kishore, you're a legend!!
@WilliamBenedict
@WilliamBenedict Ай бұрын
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is very learned and speaks a lot of common sense. Thank you.
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Ай бұрын
Is it?
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Ай бұрын
Is it not? Provide the context then
@wangchienlooi1288
@wangchienlooi1288 Ай бұрын
I am so very impressed that KISHORE is so comprehensive, consistent and clear in his thoughts on CHINA. He has articulated his answers simply and persuasively and has DEFINITELY left his mark on the INTERNATIONAL scene as arguably one of the BEST ASIAN thinkers spanning the 20th & 21st century!!!! He has done Spore PROUD.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@Jason-gs7qn
@Jason-gs7qn Ай бұрын
看了大家的评论,作为中国人,非常感谢大家对中国的理解和支持。
@snwoody001
@snwoody001 Ай бұрын
天下苦美久矣!
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 21 күн бұрын
我是来自新加坡🇸🇬,可是祖先来自中国 🇨🇳。 世界和平,世界不要战争就好。
@user-tj2nm3db3e
@user-tj2nm3db3e 18 күн бұрын
@@tsunshinegal9102中国人也不喜欢战争,可是美国到处煽风点火!
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 16 күн бұрын
Be my guest 💓🇨🇳 💓
@Michael-nt5rp
@Michael-nt5rp 29 күн бұрын
Professor Mahbubani is someone who combines the intellect of the West and the wisdom of the East! 🙏👏
@JamilAgrami-jh2zz
@JamilAgrami-jh2zz Ай бұрын
The more I listen to t his discussion, the more I am convinced that Orville is completely lost in space. Thanks to Dr Kushiro for making the discussion worth watching.
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one Ай бұрын
Not lost, just an indignant curmudgeon peddling anti-China hate. I like the way Kishore finally couldn't hold it in despite his immense diplomatic civility and laughs at the idiot.
@waynezw
@waynezw Ай бұрын
Respect to Singapore for having a diplomat and scholar like Kishore! A country with meritocracy has shown the world what’s possible when the leaders are decent and capable.
@selenium-es7hl
@selenium-es7hl Ай бұрын
I kinda wanted the US to be a meritocracy.
@shanmugaretnam9868
@shanmugaretnam9868 Ай бұрын
Thank you , they broke the mould which Kishore Mahubhani was made from , similar craftsman who created Lee Kuan Yew : )
@zeniehudson7098
@zeniehudson7098 Ай бұрын
Such governance in Singapore and Malaysia, are influenced by The British ! Not China .not CCP! In China you are not allowed to own any land ! Not even your soul !!
@Wilson24678
@Wilson24678 Ай бұрын
@@selenium-es7hl Then how those "nobles" maintain their privilege?
@tayan6041
@tayan6041 Ай бұрын
It’s a shame to Singaporan
@lasercladjoe
@lasercladjoe Ай бұрын
LONG LONG LIVE KISHORE MAHBUBANI 🙏🙏🙏
@aharrr2017
@aharrr2017 Ай бұрын
Such Wisdom from Kishore Mahbubani, learning a lot from you👍💯
@MKhan-sd7hu
@MKhan-sd7hu Ай бұрын
No doubt Sir Kishore is a master-class.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
Wumao
@robertcwchin5872
@robertcwchin5872 Ай бұрын
​@@TacticalMayois a sour grape
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
@@robertcwchin5872 wait till you see what we do.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
@@robertcwchin5872 wait till you see what sour grape brings you.
@robertcwchin5872
@robertcwchin5872 Ай бұрын
@@TacticalMayo I wonder. Are you an agent?
@rinizhang6031
@rinizhang6031 Ай бұрын
As Singaporean , we are proud to have many leaders like Mr. Kishore. As for the west, the quality of the leader is so behind. Totally agreed with Mr Kishore.
@lukecheuk
@lukecheuk Ай бұрын
Likewise the "quality" of their "scholars" is on full display with this Orville character, with his emotion infused, catchphrase-laden jibber jabber, words like "wolf warrior" as newly christened by their so called "think"tanks...
@sydlilivale
@sydlilivale Ай бұрын
Exactly! Really don't think students from the world should go to american universities and try to learn some knowledge from Orville kind of people. He is one of the representatives of american jokes.
@geoff9858
@geoff9858 Ай бұрын
​@@lukecheukI agree with you, the quality has deteriorated the last few decades.
@samuelli3627
@samuelli3627 Ай бұрын
As a fellow Singaporean, I strongly disagree with this view, in fact, I am ashamed to have garbage like Kishore or George Yeo who are so shallow, so shortsighted, so stupid
@astroboy-mz9ne
@astroboy-mz9ne Ай бұрын
Mr. Orville Schell so stupid and arrogant. In my point of view, he seems so naive what happening to our planet, left and right like a killing field. Question, USA done all this horrible evils. God please bless us our wonderful planet for peace.
@sammytsang7479
@sammytsang7479 Ай бұрын
Orville getting schooled but doesn't know it. Everyone in that room does 😂
@houm7571
@houm7571 23 күн бұрын
This dude isn't even on kishore's level. He not only systematically dismantled him but also schooled him on every single issue. Hands down sir.
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 Ай бұрын
Kishore Mabubani is one of the best most insightful geopolitical realist analyst. He has been predicting most of the events unfolding today.
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Ай бұрын
Yes, but he gives a partial explanation. A realist, yes, but what about a visionary?
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 Ай бұрын
@@TheVafa95 Well I have read all his books written I think since before 2016 and listened to a few of his lectures and most of what he stated are unfolding just as he stated them. Also many of the suggestions he made would have solved many of the issues today that he identified. So I also agree he is also one of the best modern day visionary.
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Ай бұрын
@@seeker2118what is his vision for the future? Has he expanded on his analogy of the boat?
@TheVafa95
@TheVafa95 Ай бұрын
@@seeker2118 Seeker is a meaningful name you have chosen. These days many children know that through cooperation one can achieve more than through competition and fighting is bad.. Visionary is someone who knows where humanity "has to be going" like Confucius who 2,500 years ago said that, When the perfect order prevails, the world is like a home shared by all. Virtuous and capable people are elected to public offices; trust and peace are the maxims of living among the people..." The closest thing Kishore has said is that we are all on one ship and the ship has no captain. I have not heard him to say, what steps humanity has to take, to have a world governing system to avoid wars and bloodshed. And to guide humanity out of collective danger it is facing. If he has written anything expanding on the analogy of ship, please share it.
@seeker2118
@seeker2118 Ай бұрын
@@TheVafa95 The analogy he shared about the planet being a ship and we being all passengers in different cabins is from his book, I think "The Great convergence" where he goes deeper into the great dilemmas humanity now face. The idea of putting our differences aside and ignoring our selfish tendencies as if we don't learn to work together we will end together. His other titles: "Has China Won" and the very short but profound and in my opinion prophetic "Has the West Lost it" are extremely good as they basically predicted the issues that we face today and his suggestions on how these issues could have been avoided. His books will be more interesting for people from the global south as we are better able to relate, but more difficult to accept by Westerners who hold on to a sense of entitlement and superiority.
@kpewliu4348
@kpewliu4348 Ай бұрын
Khishor is truly an excellent diplomat. He's able to tell the Americans: "South East Asians are not stupid, you fool", in a very polite acceptable way
@edc4052
@edc4052 Ай бұрын
He is a CCP apologist.
@popcorn6931
@popcorn6931 Ай бұрын
He indirectly admitted that most south East Asian are blind to its neighbors’ interest when it comes to China territorial expansions…. Almost fully aligned with Sno-Russian interest more so than the west
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
Kishore is mouth piece of the CCP
@gabrielchong1322
@gabrielchong1322 Ай бұрын
You fot that right@@Andy-P
@edc4052
@edc4052 Ай бұрын
@@Andy-P Can I give you 20 thumbs up?
@hue4281
@hue4281 Ай бұрын
Very impressed with Mahbubani's character, intelligence and speech. A great person and definitely would be a great leader of the world if there's a choice.
@user-rd8zc8sr4r
@user-rd8zc8sr4r Ай бұрын
China was once the number one in the world like the United States is now, but in the past 4,000 years I have never seen China start a war around the world like the United States is now. From this perspective, the Chinese are the most peace-loving race. And..........I really sympathize with orville schell so much....his attitude to SouthEast Asia is full of condescending self-persuasion............
@tianlin4027
@tianlin4027 Ай бұрын
Orville: Of what nation are you a citizen? Kishore: Singapore. Orville: Are you a citizen of another nation? Kishore: No professor. Orville: Have you applied a Chinese citizenship? Kishore: Professor, I served my nation, Singapore. No, I did not. Orville: Do you have a Singapore passport? Kishore: Yes, professor. I served in Singapore government for more than 30 years. Orville: Do you have any passports from other countries? Kishore: No, professor.
@themarksong
@themarksong Ай бұрын
😂🤣😂
@eulescholz8530
@eulescholz8530 Ай бұрын
Is this a persiflage of the us senat grilling tik tok Ceo???
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK Ай бұрын
"Are you a citizen of Singapore?" "Yes, yes, I am." "Are you aware that you are not supposed to serve another country, if you served for Singapore ? Cos your army background should mean that you are tied to Singapore's civil service tier only." "But Singapore has no more room to live in and to stay. What am I supposed to do ?" "Should you not have thought about that before you applied ?" "Isn't Singapore using Common Law from the UK?" "Are you trying to force indirectly changes to the constitution of the British Common Law system, in order to advance your own self interests here ? Indirectly forcing Britain to be damaged ? " "But we have now globalised, and those old things, and constitutions are changed. I am loyal to my country." "Did you send out the memo? If you are loyal to your country, then why do you work for your enemy ? " "You implied that the are chinese first as a race, before you are an actual citizen of a nation ?" "Are you trying to find the gaps in the missing translation, and therefore get as much coverages as you could. And want ?" "Are you implying that there has been no changed since the first and second world war, and that we are still living in an actual wartime zone ?? "
@watchitontube
@watchitontube Ай бұрын
Yes, this represents the mentality of the US. Stupid and sad.
@localgai9182
@localgai9182 Ай бұрын
@Sy-wm9wq
@Sy-wm9wq Ай бұрын
the world need more people like Kishore, listening to him can prevent war.
@edwardlim7253
@edwardlim7253 Ай бұрын
Agree.. unfortunately if one "exceptional" country, U.S., does not listen.. there's nothing the rest of the 160 or so countries can do.. sigh..
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei Ай бұрын
Kishore having serve on the UN security council knows how the real world works. these scholar-journalist only know paper theory.
@westwoodly
@westwoodly Ай бұрын
Why aren't more world organisations or contentious countries tap on his wisdom?
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Ай бұрын
@@westwoodlywisdom.. really??
@davidwoon6402
@davidwoon6402 16 күн бұрын
Not forgetting. And Prof Jeffrey Sachs too. One of the last few Godly Americans. 🙏
@mrblueyish
@mrblueyish Ай бұрын
Agreed with Mr. Mahbubani on most things, with a few exceptions including in particular his diplomatic praise of the US (especially of Biden being a "careful, sensitive president" - that's absurd). -A fellow Singaporean
@haniahannslew4108
@haniahannslew4108 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I almost vomited when Kishmore praised Biden.
@nofakenews2041
@nofakenews2041 28 күн бұрын
He just being polite
@spadeysay6846
@spadeysay6846 27 күн бұрын
As usual, his diplomatic language. But you can sense the sarcasm.
@sstone123
@sstone123 18 күн бұрын
He was just doing it for polite.
@CorneyKAlone
@CorneyKAlone Ай бұрын
The very first opening remarks (supposed to be but turned out to be trigger questions) clearly demonstrates that Orville Schell was not meant to be on the stage in the exact way the U.S isn't supposed to be intruding and causing all manner of instabilities in South East Asia. Very telling. Kishore Mahbubani on the other hand enlightened and painted a well researched and factual (mostly) view of the sovereignty and intrinsic interests of the People's Republic of China, that needs to be understood and respected.
@NZkiwihaisun
@NZkiwihaisun Ай бұрын
Orville just keeps accusing Kishore with west ignorance. He have not answered any question effectively yet. How he can be selected to have a debate with Kishore. He likes high school study pretending he knows something….
@cirakchitocaldino7398
@cirakchitocaldino7398 Ай бұрын
Apa yang disampaikan Orville sangat tidak bermutu; ia memegang teguh pandangan tahun 1980-2010...., yang mana sudah tidak relevan dengan situasi dan kondisi geopolitik saat ini. Saran; undang pembicara yang lebih cerdas dan menguasai kondisi terkini....
@Aransa-Khan
@Aransa-Khan Ай бұрын
You are right. That Orville is like a high school kid.
@monipenny408
@monipenny408 Ай бұрын
U$ is practically a terror state, currently funding and backing Gaza ge no. This is all unfolding now, today!!!
@dut5766
@dut5766 Ай бұрын
Lol
@troutstalker7855
@troutstalker7855 Ай бұрын
ither he is very navie or thinks the rest of us are stupid. Why do I need to listen to him? He is simply parroting what the US government is saying, for that I can watch CNN.
@dypk.2all
@dypk.2all Ай бұрын
Why doesn't Shnell talk about Okinawa, Chagos, Gracia Diego, Hawaii? Why the US comes all the way to South East Asia to tell Asean what they should or should not do? China is the largest exporter to the world. So isn't it China's interest to safeguard the waters in the South China Sea. Why has the Us poking its nose into the affairs of countries in the Far East?
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 Ай бұрын
To keep their hegemon. No country is allowed to surpass usa.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
​@@greentea8852and they will not.
@greentea8852
@greentea8852 Ай бұрын
@@TacticalMayoYes, they will not be able to keep their hegemony.
@Cheesecake99YearsAgo
@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Ай бұрын
​@@TacticalMayoit is a gradual process through dedollarisation Welcome to the new world 😅
@sheavelte2917
@sheavelte2917 Ай бұрын
​​@@TacticalMayoThe US play dirty game to keep his hegemony, but soon China will surpass the US without doubt.
@TheFantomRogue
@TheFantomRogue 27 күн бұрын
Kishmore is a LIVING LEGEND!!!!!!!
@Fortune-md5jk
@Fortune-md5jk Ай бұрын
This untidy American was boxed into a corner by the neat Singaporean every time the former opened his blabbermouth. China is extending its hand of COOPERATION to the US but the latter spurned it, it views China as a competitor and rival all because of envy because of the meteoric rise of China economically. President Xi in fact went out of his way to welcome the US executives of big companies in Beijing. US businessmen have a cordial and harmonious relationship with China but the US politicians in Washington are adopting an antagonistic attitude toward China.
@clee1347
@clee1347 Ай бұрын
Another quote of you Orville: “I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated and we stole. We’ve a training course just for that”.
@elenadublin2
@elenadublin2 Ай бұрын
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is pure style and grace. There's no contest here.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
He is CCP mouth piece. Behave like CCP state press. Will not acknowledge criticism
@martintsang1662
@martintsang1662 Ай бұрын
​@@Andy-Pname calling is displaying your lack of intelligence. Go read more then go debate him on his points.
@gust5992
@gust5992 Ай бұрын
Without a doubt! Hear…..hear.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Ай бұрын
@@martintsang1662 Where is th name calling. I've watched the debate and Kishore doesn't answer the questions. It's you who are name calling "..your lack of intelligence" maybe I should go to one of those camps in Xinjiang?
@rr-ricky
@rr-ricky Ай бұрын
kishore makes wrongful generalizations about ASEAN. ASEAN tolerates china because of chinese economy, but most DISLIKE chinese oppression and bullying. communist china is not harmonizing as kishore pretends, they are the main oppressors in ASEAN territory.
@junlin7042
@junlin7042 Ай бұрын
Respect to Mr. Kishore
@walking_luggage8105
@walking_luggage8105 Ай бұрын
Mr. Orville, please sort out your facts. The so-called Senkaku island is actually called the Diaoyu island, and it belongs to the Republic of China (AKA Taiwan), but it is occupied illegally by Japan.
@anandachong
@anandachong Ай бұрын
that american guy answered none of the questions raised to him but instead keeps demonizing China and tried to push Kishore to a corner of which Kishore was able to retort so well and eloquently.
@angusmckenzie9622
@angusmckenzie9622 Ай бұрын
@anandachong "that american guy answered none of t..." You didn't watch this video, did you. "push Kishore into a corner" ? One question about Chinese aggression which Muhbubani avoided by passing China's "difficulties" with India, Japan, Vietnam as difficulties. In his vanilla, benign portrayal of CCP China, Mahbubani overlooks the pacifying influence of the 7th Fleet.
@yaucharles91
@yaucharles91 Ай бұрын
​@@angusmckenzie9622 Kishore did mention great power have their own interest! The point he stress is that we need to standup to China and also live with China. He also state it is normal to have dispute anong countries. Do not have a "snap view" on China. Look at broader pictures. China have dispute but did not result into a war.
@angusmckenzie9622
@angusmckenzie9622 Ай бұрын
@yaucharles "K ishore did mention great power..." That illustrates, perfectly, the weakness in Mahbubani's position on China. In 1950 China invaded South Korea and Tibet. 1962, invaded India. 1979 invaded Vietnam. All that restrains CCP from war against its neighbours is the US 7th Fleet. Don't be fooled by Mahbubani's avuncular musings, he's out of touch.
@budawang77
@budawang77 Ай бұрын
Hardly. The "American guy" (it would be polite of you to use his name) asked some good questions of Kishore who was also quite good at avoiding answering some of them.
@alanbgtan
@alanbgtan Ай бұрын
And I was surprised that Rorry did not ask Orville that either and brush it off
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 Ай бұрын
Just one question for Orville: name me a third nation other than Canada and Murica that abducted a top-level manager of a company without any charges. Murica did it to the French Alstom! Canada did it to Huawei! What do those actions say about Canada and Murica?!
@blang7017
@blang7017 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@samliew6610
@samliew6610 Ай бұрын
Good questions 👍🏻
@joelturley4847
@joelturley4847 Ай бұрын
Huawei is a criminal organization
@donkeykong8792
@donkeykong8792 Ай бұрын
National security!
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 Ай бұрын
@@donkeykong87921 hour ago National security! THIRD NATION!!! English is your second language?
@ashwindaftary4561
@ashwindaftary4561 25 күн бұрын
The questions raised by the US expert on Geopolitics very much wonderfully answered by Mr. Kishore of Asean countries.
@yjia7396
@yjia7396 Ай бұрын
Mr Kishore Mahbubani's level is much more higher than Mr. Orville Schell's.
@peacesoup1008
@peacesoup1008 Ай бұрын
Great push back, Kishore! And backed with truth, not insinuations and propaganda 👏👍
@user-wi7it2mx6z
@user-wi7it2mx6z Ай бұрын
Certainly, Kishore is skilled at hiding his propaganda under the veil of knowledge and the ability to articulate that knowledge. He is skilled at being SUBTLE. And that's dangerous.
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 21 күн бұрын
@@user-wi7it2mx6z: what propaganda? While USA interferes in other nations … China is building bridges over land, over mountains 🏔️, across seas & underneath waters too, improving their infrastructure, transportation, tele communications etc. I think 🤔 if America 🇺🇸 starts to care & build their own nation & infrastructure- it would be good. Eg Baltimore bridge needs strong anchor ⚓️ & repair ! Care about your own backyard than interfering in other peoples backyard.
@mkang666
@mkang666 Ай бұрын
Seeing how this American speaks make me understand why the US is declining. Blinded by arrogance and I am quite sure what is in their mind. If America goes down, make sure all others go along.
@limayanon
@limayanon Ай бұрын
your mind is twisted
@user-tr5vs9gm4r
@user-tr5vs9gm4r Ай бұрын
@@limayanon America is twisted. America has no power on its own population so it needs to dominate foreign population instead
@sebastianbarthez
@sebastianbarthez Ай бұрын
​@@limayanonI bet the twisted mind is yours not his.
@limayanon
@limayanon Ай бұрын
@@sebastianbarthez maybe it is yours read it again
@kmsb1one
@kmsb1one Ай бұрын
@mkang666 Dead on! @lim-sh..t hahaha, just stay in your delusional space with the unkempt finger wagging Orville (popcorn) boy.
@zafarm6101
@zafarm6101 Ай бұрын
Feels like this day a very polite and patient Headmaster (Mahbubani ) had to look after a rude and impolte brat for long hours.
@allblacks405
@allblacks405 Ай бұрын
This Orville bloke seems pretty pretentious and bigoted. Is he even an academic?
@dryeoh2023
@dryeoh2023 Ай бұрын
Kishore has my highest respect for being direct and impartial.
@user-wi7it2mx6z
@user-wi7it2mx6z Ай бұрын
On the contrary, Kishore EVADED answers to some CHALLENGING questions. He seems to have a personal agenda that is aligned with China's. Kishore seems to be a China PROPAGANDIST. He hails China's economic success while IGNORING the PROCESS of China's achieving such success. He does not acknowledge the RESPONSIBILITY that should go with China's BULLYING actions and other MISBEHAVIOR.
@tsunshinegal9102
@tsunshinegal9102 21 күн бұрын
@@user-wi7it2mx6z: 😂aren’t you biased ? Your world 🌍 map 🗺️ has America in the center ???
@wyphonema4024
@wyphonema4024 Ай бұрын
I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Since 15th century China already trade With Melaka. They never conquered us, only trade. BUT the west Portuguese, English and Dutch came with cannons to conquer us and said we belong to them. They each stayed for years.
@wooyyeah
@wooyyeah Ай бұрын
I'm from the US, but my parents are from Singapore, the western colonial powers didn't conquer us for years, they did so for Centuries! Hundreds of years! They even fought each other to conquer us.
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev Ай бұрын
KARMA IS A B ITCH
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev Ай бұрын
THEY DESTROYED WORLD WITH GUNS VALLENTINES AND PLASTIC YOUNGSTERS@@wooyyeah
@jrpark05
@jrpark05 Ай бұрын
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@try_dc6366
@try_dc6366 Ай бұрын
Chinese Bots activated in comments to enforce Chinese narrative.
@jw7518
@jw7518 18 күн бұрын
Kishore is a very educated, wisdom and respectable man! I have to say this one more time.
@seemingen6790
@seemingen6790 Ай бұрын
thumbs up to Speaker Kishore Mahbubani and host Rorry Daniels.
@user-ep7dx1fp1v
@user-ep7dx1fp1v Ай бұрын
Prof. Kishore is the kind of person that get respect and admiration when he start talking.
@bummers
@bummers 29 күн бұрын
As a Singaporean, I am very very comfortable with China and I am happy to express very loudly my dissatisfaction with US. Thanks but no thanks to US bullying Orville.
@peterchen952
@peterchen952 Ай бұрын
so much respect to Mr. Kishore Mahbubani. to represent Singapore and the entire ASEAN in response to Orville.
@petervote7914
@petervote7914 Ай бұрын
I am Chinese Singaporean and I am completely, totally, absolutely and fully comfortable with China's rise. The more China rises, the more powerful it becomes, the louder its voice gets, the more satisfied and comfortable I am. Kishore is Singaporean, I am Singaporean. Kishore is an Indian Singaporean, he is not as pro China as Chinese Singaporeans, that is a joke.
@russiasucks7170
@russiasucks7170 Ай бұрын
China’s rise ? What rise ? Economic or military rise ? China’s economic miracle is also gone !singapore is comfortable of China’s military rise ? You clearly do not know what you are talking about bout
@petervote7914
@petervote7914 Ай бұрын
@@russiasucks7170 I am Chinese Singaporean. On China, I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. It would be ludicrous for an ang moh to teach me things about China.
@rr-ricky
@rr-ricky Ай бұрын
kishore is a joke. communist china is a danger to ASEAN.
@Unknown-sh8kw
@Unknown-sh8kw Ай бұрын
Kishore is Chinese spokesperson since years
@russiasucks7170
@russiasucks7170 Ай бұрын
@@petervote7914how do you know I am Ang moh ? Can’t I be another singaporean too ? Only you know ? You must be too full of yourself ! Again , assuming you words to echo those of whole Singapore ? Your a joke !!!!! A complete joke
@user-fu5ng2qi2d
@user-fu5ng2qi2d Ай бұрын
One is a intellect and the other is lost in space....floats from one anti China point to the next but does not have a comprehensive logical argument... It's really not fair to put this guy in the same room with a intellect.
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
Exactly and Kishore is pro-china. You're on your side and we are on ours 🇺🇲
@Lonelyheart1776
@Lonelyheart1776 Ай бұрын
Can’t agree more with your assessment. We know who is the intellect and who is the lost guy. 😂😂😂
@Queen731.
@Queen731. Ай бұрын
It is fair because he calls himself a China expert.
@gust5992
@gust5992 Ай бұрын
@@Queen731. 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@user-tr5vs9gm4r
@user-tr5vs9gm4r Ай бұрын
He is just repeating what he read from Western medias. Can't blame him on feeding his brain on it
@user-bm5tc4bb8v
@user-bm5tc4bb8v Ай бұрын
Without the United States, our earth would be peaceful for a long time.
@haniahannslew4108
@haniahannslew4108 Ай бұрын
💯 Correct 👍
@chrisseanbala
@chrisseanbala 25 күн бұрын
As a Singaporean and Asian I am proud that Kishore is providing a much more balanced perspective to this matter than the so called China expert who seems to be so clueless.
@RohankrishnaB
@RohankrishnaB Ай бұрын
I am happy to see Asian superpowers! Its always good to have a counterbalance to western narrative on global issues
@TacticalMayo
@TacticalMayo Ай бұрын
There will only be one superpower and that is the United States of America 🇺🇲
@rameshpudhucode6862
@rameshpudhucode6862 Ай бұрын
Rohan, don’t forget Arunachal Pradesh claim by china
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
A large number of Chinese people smuggle into the United States. Have you ever seen Americans smuggling into China? The Chinese are engaging in fraud in Myanmar, the Philippines, and Cambodia. Have you ever seen Westerners engaging in fraud in these countries? China is reclaiming reefs and building islands off the coast of the Philippines. Have you ever seen Westerners reclaiming reefs and building islands in the South China Sea?
@tvc3mye
@tvc3mye Ай бұрын
It was the fault of the British colonial government. Neither India nor China should be blamed.
@user-vw9mm7xt4h
@user-vw9mm7xt4h Ай бұрын
The first foreign bus workers strike in Singapore was initiated by the Chinese中國人. Most of the fraudsters in Myanmar, the Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, and Malaysia are from China. Then you told me that China is a friendly country. Do you have cognitive impairment?
@hh8397
@hh8397 Ай бұрын
Applause to Dr Kishore, as a Chinese from Hong Kong, and as a citizen of SE Asian. What I (we) personally experienced of all the chaos of the riots funded and instructed by US, most of us awaken as it hurt every single families so deeply. That craziness broke us all apart yet at the same time, we all got united because we learnt that we have strong and determined leaders to protect us from enemies!
@leahlee8291
@leahlee8291 Ай бұрын
Spot on 👍
@azzamatic4190
@azzamatic4190 Ай бұрын
As a fellow HK resident I couldn't agree more
@tayan6041
@tayan6041 Ай бұрын
Little pinky 😂
@watchitontube
@watchitontube Ай бұрын
The US is so desperate now that they don't care if you know or not that they played a big hand in the HongKong riot. I have no respect for the US anymore.
@atta1798
@atta1798 Ай бұрын
what enemies? The US trained China and generated jobs for your people
@jiejian3008
@jiejian3008 Ай бұрын
it is really interesting that you are discussing on China who has not joined the conversation at all. If you are so interested in China, please come and visit it.
@TomW-ks3gp
@TomW-ks3gp Ай бұрын
The host is great, Mz. Daniels. Mr. Mahbubani performed well. Orville Schell didn’t do his job. He didn’t use the chance to explain the standing, analyze the opponent, or the practical approach. He remained aggressive but unfortunately nothing more than a unprepared journalist. If USA relied on these kind of scholars for decision making, they need to rebuild the org and re-consider the decisions.
@user-db6iy7lm1v
@user-db6iy7lm1v Ай бұрын
Prof. Kishore brilliant answers and rebuttal.
@rr-ricky
@rr-ricky Ай бұрын
kishore is a a joke. ASEAN tolerates china because of its size and economic power. but ASEAN knows of chinese agenda of dominating the region. ASEAN likes the US because of its ideals and needs its military to combat a bully dhina. kishore always plays to his pro-china narrative.
@Western_Decline
@Western_Decline Ай бұрын
The gap in IQ and knowledge of history between Kishore and this Whit-e creature is astounding.
@jamessethi5792
@jamessethi5792 Ай бұрын
It's a joy to listen to Kishore Mahubani we need people like him in power.
@bobl9117
@bobl9117 28 күн бұрын
It is stunning how little Orville Schell had to say beyond judging China with ideology and how little self reflection on the US policy toward China. As a liberal writer who is supposed to know China better, he was completely destroyed by Kishore.
@twq318
@twq318 Ай бұрын
Kishore has so much depth & vast knowledge about China. Why did the US send some Dumb Shallow Propagandist for this intellectual conversation - it's a waste of his time.
@laowantongchau
@laowantongchau 25 күн бұрын
It was an insult to professor Kishore.
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984
@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Ай бұрын
I only came here for Kishore and having heard the entire discussion, it's obvious to me that he was the only one worth listening to.
@nizicike759
@nizicike759 Ай бұрын
Kishore is treasure that for mankind
@ninersnation3298
@ninersnation3298 Ай бұрын
i wish the chinese have superb english speaking trash talkers like kishore, vijay prasard or john mearsheimer.
@donkeykong8792
@donkeykong8792 Ай бұрын
​@@ninersnation3298Chinese don't speak good English in general😂, the only scholar I can think of who can deliver his message properly in English is 李世默
@ninersnation3298
@ninersnation3298 Ай бұрын
@@donkeykong8792 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!! Chinese can't just take bll shtt everytime from the west, both from western media or western politicians. The only chinese diplomats that fire back the bull s that i could think of are: yang jiechi in the alaska summitt and hua chunying's on her X account. I'm like we need to fire back garbage back. we can't take blows every time. we need good english speaking chinese to defend ourselves. we can't rely on people like jeffrey saks or john mearsheimer to defend us every time. We need to fight back ourselves!!!
@russellfloyd2732
@russellfloyd2732 Ай бұрын
Maybe ccp
@joellis5915
@joellis5915 Ай бұрын
@@ninersnation3298 All the names you mentioned are the top scholars speaking justification and truth. Trash is within yourselves as a trash person.
@ciarankelly4338
@ciarankelly4338 29 күн бұрын
Enjoy listening to Mr Kishore and his calm,clear demeanour,as for Mr. Schell he claims to be a expert on China,he comes across as a China critic but respect both gentlemen point of view and worked in Asia for twelve years and so glad that I did as I had a blurred view of Asia and thankfully I have a balanced view now. Greetings from Ireland!
@kttec4485
@kttec4485 26 күн бұрын
So proud of KISHORE. Very wisdom, well analysed and explanation. Applause to you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@michaeljiang960
@michaeljiang960 Ай бұрын
Only 1/3 into the conversation, Kishore totally overwhelmed the white guy.
@porchheu1137
@porchheu1137 Ай бұрын
The white guy belongs to a kid stage not the adult stage.
@2012meditation
@2012meditation Ай бұрын
I would say from the start.
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Ай бұрын
"The White Guy" hahaha you bums all wish you were white
@holymackerel6200
@holymackerel6200 Ай бұрын
I've only watched about 30 minutes so far, but already I'm seeing what a good escape artist Orville is. When it's his turn, instead of answering the question directly put to him by the moderator, he focuses his guns on Kishore again and again. He throws his own question at Kishore without ever answering the moderator or expressing his own point of view. The art of deflection personified.
@michaelzm76
@michaelzm76 Ай бұрын
👍
@onnmohdyusoff
@onnmohdyusoff Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@tandennis5817
@tandennis5817 Ай бұрын
So true. Sadly he taken over the role of the moderator 😢
@vamoua4036
@vamoua4036 Ай бұрын
I believe that Xi is just one of the most patriotic person for his people for serving his country tirelessly since he was 18. All that he wants to do is to better his people but nothing is perfect and some people do get stepped on in the process, basically competitors.
@issactian3143
@issactian3143 Ай бұрын
😅 nobody beat Kishore in logical argument, he just hit the bullseye on point, 1-0 to kishore❤❤
@supermelville7838
@supermelville7838 Ай бұрын
Professor Mahbubani won this debate.
@fffwe3876
@fffwe3876 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@thegracienetwork7847
@thegracienetwork7847 Ай бұрын
Kishore was angry at the end because Orville told him over and over again: China is on the wrong path
@meheretnardos1894
@meheretnardos1894 Ай бұрын
Definitely
@user-xv3bl7jz7t
@user-xv3bl7jz7t Ай бұрын
Orville was stupid. anyone with smarts would have clearly won over this Kishore guy.
@shineluvslambiel
@shineluvslambiel Ай бұрын
@@user-xv3bl7jz7tyeah ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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