WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ADD AN OVERGRIP TO YOUR TENNIS RACKET

[@diegosalamanca9007]

Measuring the swingweight is equivalent to measuring the inertia of an object. inertia is weight multiplied by distance to the point of rotation. If you put an overgrip on the handle of the racquet, you add weight, but the distance is very small, therefore the swingweight does not have to change. greetings from Chile.

[@oliverdesouza5741]

Indeed, the machine actually grips about 10 cm up the racket handle, in the middle of the overgrip, so there will be just as much weight added above the pivot as below.

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@oliverdesouza5741 weight added in opposition, as you stated, doesn't affect SW until you begin to add a significant amount of weight above the 10cm mark and extending toward the head of the racquet. The farther from the 10cm pivot point, the more inertia or SW will be affected.

[@chuckfriebe843]

@Rui Dias absolutely well said

[@chuckfriebe843]

Well said

[@sjamr10]

tigrillo

[@icucicuFyou]

It’s not surprising that the swing weight do not change. It’s physics. Let me clarify: 1. Swingweight depends on moments, or what we usually call in car terms, “Torque”, it is the force about a pivot. 2. Since your machine is holding it at the pivot, any force that is on the pivot will not affect the torque. The further the force is from the pivot, the higher the Torque 3. Torque is calculated by force x “distance to pivot”. Therefore adding 1g at the 12oclock is the same as 5-8g just at the handle, because it’s further from the pivot 4. In reality, we hold our tennis racket at the handle and swing it, so our overgrip will be completely on the pivot (our hands is the pivot). Therefore, there WILL BE NO SWING WEIGHT CHANGE. 5. For calculation purpose, it’s 6gx0cm to the pivot, so 6x0=0 So yes, the grip changes your balance and overall static weight, but it have no effect on your swing weight. You have tested this for the leather grip too.

[@miguelbarahona6636]

But, even if the swing weight doesn´t change, the weight of the racket does, and that will affect how your racket feels in your hand, and therefore your strokes.

[@CykOfficial]

@@miguelbarahona6636 hi, I didn’t say the racket does not have any changes. I’m specifically talking about swing weight only, and why he should not be surprise by 0 swing weight change. I think you misread my comment

[@miguelbarahona6636]

@@CykOfficial Hi, I read your original comment and I agree totally. I only wanted to add something, because even if the swingweigth doesn´t change, your swing can be afected.

[@oliverdesouza5741]

Absolutely. Indeed I would guess that they design the SW pivot to grip at about the typical point of the top of a hand, so they are giving you a reading that corresponds to what you'll feel. They could have designed the pivot grip just to hold the tip, or hold the entire 20 cm of the handle area, but that would not correspond to an average feeling (unless you're considering a Nadal FH, or 2HBH). What is interesting is to consider what SW really is. Is it the actual feeling of swinging the racket? Or is that better a combination of SW, static weight and balance? For example, does it feel the same swinging a 340g racket with 330 SW, as swinging a 310g racket with 330 SW? I think to quantify the feeling of the racket you have to calculate something like SW/Static Weight x Balance Point, because if a racket has a high SW and high BP it feels much more hefty than one that is very head-light with the same SW. Overall I would say balance has the greatest feeling difference, in the typical ranges one finds, and that is where getting a stock racket that is on spec is very important too.

[@robocop6573]

tennis spin always gets schooled by u guys. great stuff

[@sportscastercanada]

The handle becomes thicker! 😆👏

[@ponchogp7870]

Vids coming up next week: What Happens When You Put Strings Into A racket

[@robocop6573]

@@ponchogp7870 yes

[@robocop6573]

@@ponchogp7870 then next video: what happens when you put a dampener on your tennis racket

[@robocop6573]

@@ponchogp7870 then next video: what happens when u change the color of ur overgrip

[@robocop6573]

@@ponchogp7870 then next video: what happens when u stencil ur strings

[@chtomlin]

Nice that you showed how it shocked you. This is good for many to learn.

[@_APV_]

That makes me think, what about same model rackets with 0 grip size vs 5 grip size, do they make them weigh the same no matter the grip size?

[@slach01]

Very useful vid - thanks for posting! Assuming a 68.6cm (27 in) racket and the numbers provided, I get the following: Base racket: mass=315.5g, bal=32.8cm, SW=314, distance from SW pivot point to balance point (call it "y")=22.8cm, recoil weight=150, polarization=0.48, MGR/I=20.7. Racket with overgrip: mass=321.5g, bal=32.4, SW=314, y=22.4, recoil weight = 152.7, polarization = 0.47, MGR/I=20.8. So while it's minor, the recoil weight (which fights against rotation recoil at contact) goes up, despite the balance moving down. As such, weight in the handle gives a bit of extra weight overall, leaves the sw effectively unchanged, and with the higher recoil weight provides a bit of additional stability at contact. This stability, while perhaps small, contributes to a minor increase in power (since power is lost in recoil), comfort and control. As an aside, while I've never been fully sold on the MGR/I calculation seen in many forums, when I tune my personal rackets, I do tend to land pretty close to 21.

[@chowchichang2922]

This is information overload ! Like a few grams is going to make a difference.... As a committed player you should be asking yourself what can I do get stronger to make up for that “added” swing weight !

[@JW-bw8nj]

Lol @ Harry being cocky and dismissive of those of us that prefer to use overgrips until he got actual scientific evidence that it doesn't affect the playability of the racquet the way he incorrectly assumed. Goes to show that even after 30+ years in the biz, an old dog can still learn something 😜.

[@KingRockets]

Except he still dismissed it even after testing twice! He even says i'm sure if I added a second overgrip it would change the swing weight. This is not the case as others have pointed out in the comments.

[@Lunchpgap]

i use the whole roll. i like feeling the overlap.

[@roybodin7301]

But you're altering the racquet by adding on an extra 0.8 grams!

[@boogie7778]

Great he just confirmed what I, and hopefully most, already should know. Adding anything to a racket adds some amount of weight. Even a shock dampener will add some, especially those huge, worm like ones. With my PS G3's first I re-gripped with a thin leather grip and overwrap, to intentionally slightly increase the grip size and add some weight to make it headlight for my swing.

[@trujr5295]

Keep it coming Harry. thanks for the videos and all your efforts. You have shortened my learning curve in details I would have otherwise never have known. You make a player understand the game better as far as equipment is concerned.

[@paulgowler5181]

But what did you learn here? That your racket's weight and balance changes when you put weight on one end? I really hope you already knew that. What we should come away from this video knowing is whether this is good or bad in general, or if it even makes a difference. The swing weight was identical, so will a rec player even notice the difference, will it have any impact on their game at all? Maybe it can improve your game for some players by possibly increasing control. Without actual on court data none of this means anything.

[@jamesvoudouris9668]

I believe that the swingweight is measured 10 cm from the end of the grip. Even in the machine used, we can see that the pivot point is not at the end of the grip but some cms ahead of it. So most of the overgrips' mass goes below that point. Maybe that's the reason why the swingweight didn't change (or didn't change enough)

[@chuckfriebe843]

Correct

[@jayp123]

Ah

[@sundaramirtanandha7058]

Actually the swing weight will not increase unless weight is added towards the head of the racquet. You can test that by adding another 5 grams to handle. If people put a vibration dampener then that may adjust swing weight very slightly. When weight added to handle, balance changes (HL) it makes it more manoeuvrable, but SW does not change.

[@chuckfriebe843]

💯% correct

[@oliverdesouza5741]

Great analysis Harry. How about seeing if you can replicate the specs of a stock racket by taking a light version and modifying it following the difference in specs? For example, take a PS97L (290g) and add about 17g to the handle area (leather grip / overgrip / butt-weight etc), and about 8g to the hoop (say 3g at 9 & 3, 2g at 6), then see if it feels like a PS97. The 8g in the hoop should add about 11pts SW, and the net 9g in the handle area should reduce the balance by about 0.7cm / 3pts. I sometimes wonder if the difference in racket models is thicker amounts of graphite, or if the manufacturers just use the same hairpin and wrap a few bits of lead to get to the different models.

[@shmimc1]

You should have taped off the over grip with the provided tape to make it a little more accurate but, point taken. Someone like me wants the head lighter effect. Thank you coach💪🏻🎾

[@Hedgehog1039]

I actually have 6 grams of weight wrapped around the base of my grip as well as two overgrips (+ grip) on my Aero Pure Drive. I find it plays better that way, as well as being the right grip size for me in that setup too.

[@eugenioaloisio8082]

I loved this video.... learned a lot..... as I’m in the process of personalizing my prince phantom 100 G .... I have two over-grips on my racquet .... plus a little bit of lead tape at 3 and 9....

[@jerome_morrow]

5:42 Talks about using scissors for “pretty” and “no hack jobs here”, but hand rips his finishing tape *every time*. 😁 What happened to the nice matte strip of tape that came with the overgrip? It leaves much less gooey adhesive residue than that aftermarket finishing tape you seem to like so much. Also, why bother with scissors to trim off overgrip when you’re throwing racquets and chipping their finish anyway?

[@aqewara1]

Hi Harry, the main reason I put an Overgrip is to add weight...Also because of hygienic reasons I want to change the grip very often. The third reason is to have a smoother feel and not to have blisters. The fourth reason is because L3 is to small and L4 too big, so I want something in between. Conclusion: I love overgrips 😆

[@Siloguy]

Is that 6 grams really perceptible? I'm somewhat new to the game but with or without overgrip the racquet feels the same to me.

[@JW-bw8nj]

@@Siloguy 6 grams can be perceptible, but it all depends on where that extra 6 grams is placed and how sensitive to minute changes the player is. Most would notice a difference if the 6 grams were placed at the 12 o'clock position on the head, however, most would not notice it if it were placed on the handle (like an overgrip).

[@hishamalshami1831]

Really in must time I remove the original grip after consume it, and put the overgrip it's thinner so i feel more connected to racket even it add 1-2 to balance

[@chuckfriebe843]

Wtf?

[@davidli3665]

Great info, now please do same analysis for dampeners and head tape, thanks

[@LarzB]

Adding a grip like head hydrosorb pro to a racket increases the swing weight by 0,4 points. As an overgrip is even lighter.. you swing weight machine measures full points, so yeah it rounding off points..

[@edge7799]

Swingweight can only change the closer it is to the top of the racquet from the beginning of the top of the handle.Handle weight changes static weight and head lightness.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Correct, for the most part.

[@GrungePopRecords]

QUESTION: does adding an over grip help any with tennis elbow? Thanks for the video. I’d love to see this exact video but have you ALSO add one more over grip (so there’s two on there) and see that difference too. Ok. Thanks

[@wenruli]

If don’t mind adding swing weights. Can put similar amount of weight at 3&9 to counterbalance it.

[@sarkology]

The swing weight didn’t change on that machine because of the way that machine measures. The center pivot point of the machine is almost at the midpoint of the handle. So adding weight below that point will be a counterbalance lowering the SW (for that machine not the true theoretical SW). weight above the pivot will increase the SW per that machine. The center of mass of that overgrip on the handle is just barely above the pivot point and apparently wasn’t enough to change the SW reading.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Adding weight in the handle NEVER lowers swing weight.

[@sarkology]

@@chuckfriebe843 I agree. But with the way this machine measures SW, it does (not saying the measurement method of this machine is the actual SW). Try it on a machine that pivots from some point up the handle and see for yourself. Actually that would be a good experiment for this channel if the admin is reading this.

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@sarkology they all work the same.

[@sarkology]

@@chuckfriebe843 well there’s other ways to measure SW without these machines. But yeah try it for yourself add weight to the buttcap and then measure SW with one of these machines. It will spit out a lower number. Is that correct in terms of the physics of actual SW? No. But it makes it easier to rotate about the pivot point since it will be a counterbalance. So the machine will give a lower number. The machines aren’t perfect. In your hand that counterbalance makes it easier to whip the racquet with your wrist. But more weight to swing overall since we swing with our entire arm.

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@sarkology yeah. I think I made that same comment to someone else. Really, the inertia of the racquet, as you alluded to, is dependent on how fast we swing with our arm as well.

[@RealJ8]

Hey for all you listener's, this guy is a Rec's player's best friend. He's got the tips for beginners and maybe intermediates. He loves to live the hype tennis brands feed the market. If you want to go advanced, or if you're already advanced, you know that all this "extra weight" from the end of a 10cm grip is negligible. In fact, it's not even a matter of discussion because when you're changing your over grip on court, who's got time to cut the excess off.

[@rsmith02]

It's completely meaningless, but still interesting to see the measurements. Can't say I ever changed grip on a court- I have two frames and maintain them before play.

[@chtomlin]

The key here is to remember that it is what you always do and compare it that way. So when the balance moves 4 pts, remember that is what you will do (roughly) with any racket you use by adding your normal overwrap. So the racket that is already 7 pts HL will now be more like 10-11 HL.

[@_APV_]

Even before he measured swing-weight I thought that the shorter balance point will counteract the additional weight, but was also surprised that it did so perfectly. Simple calculator that only uses racket length, balance point and weight calculates 305.46 for the stock and 305.14 for the wrapped. Edit: "I'm sure if you add another overgrip on it, the number should change" why don't you test that? :)

[@92edro]

i think that swingweight is not affected if you add weight below the balance point

[@almuhito]

Harry - adding weight to handle does not add to Swing weight. But obviously total weight and balance changes.

[@emmanuelbuenviaje6564]

most weekend warrior couldn't tell 6gms from 10gms. Does the weight of a sweatband alter your speed of your swing? How about a bandana or cap? Surely that would add weight to the body.

[@jerome_morrow]

It’s amazing how for some people, even trimming their nails can throw off their timing due to weight change in their hand.

[@benjaminjensen111]

Logic: You add overall weight to racket, but also change balance more towards the handle... thus more headlight... That all corrolates to same swing-weight. If all 6 grams you added was concentrated right at the buttcap, then you would add overall weight... but decrease Swing-weight.

[@ernie8117]

Yes, I have a curious question. When lead or weight is added in the handle and the same amount is added to the head to maintain the original balance of the racquet, does the swing weight change, because the overall weight has increased? Say 6grms in the handle, 6grams in the head, will the swing weight be the same? Thanks

[@jasonsalierno5577]

The weight of racket does not change in a noticeable way. Hold the over grip in your hand before unrolling it. You can't notice it in your hand due to how light it is.

[@eddiepearce5307]

Great video. You did not mention how much it built up grip size?? I am one of the weird/odd who does not use an overgrip, since the Tourna What a GRIP disappeared.

[@jasonbannan4024]

Putting weight in the handle doesn't significantly change the racquet weight forward of the fulcrum point of the swing weight machine. That machine is analyzing the energy required to swing the racquet mass in front of the fulcrum point. That is why you don't see a change in swing weight. All you have done is changed the balance which gives you a different sensation because it is now more head light. but you are still moving the same amount of mass in front of your hand's grip.

[@BIGLOVE4TRUTH]

So I use an over grip when it is warmer or when my grip is becoming worn and slippery. Now I always use bumper guard protection tape so I suppose that helps even things out on a stock 300 gram unstrung racquet .

[@justpar2012]

I'm 77 years old and played lots of tennis. We didnt have the option of an overwrap. The problem was this is that we would wear out our leather grio and have to replace it. An overwrap would of saved us money. I do string lots of rackets and most everyone uses an overwrap.

[@tennis4life1998]

What about the ‘compensation’ by the racket protection tape?

[@ferdinandbautista984]

Great video. Is adding to much lead affect your racket performance. I put 1 piece of tape on lower half of racket head .3 to 9 ‘clock thanxs

[@jeffreyyu5001]

Same SW because SW is measured from from the throat to the hoop of the racquet. So handle is negligible in this case

[@chuckfriebe843]

Actually, it's measured from the weight from above ten centimeters from the bottom of the racquet. Any weight added above the 10cm area can potentially affect SW.

[@icemandl6]

I think that by swapping the synthetic grip to a leather one will increase the swingweight by only 1 unit. Like you said adding 1 overgrip will not change it

[@jinnrice]

I remove the grip and put 2 over grip on. But the first one I put on. It is wrapped at the butt cap 4 times before going up the handle. 😄

[@jacexiong]

If you do add the lead in the head to rebalance, the swing weight will go up & the overall weight too..

[@rubencasanova4018]

Nice video...I think that already from the factory two racquets of the same brand, like Wilson on my experience, may differ to a greater extent than with an overgrip. I have seen two Wilson clash delivered at the same time and one of them was longer than the other one🤷🏽‍♂️

[@YSMiracle]

So "overgrip adds weight", a next video about "vibration dampener adds weight" would be great!

[@roybodin7301]

LOL I'm waiting for the "Headbands and wristbands add weight" video

[@Eliath1984]

@@roybodin7301 Tacos add weight

[@_APV_]

And the follow up "WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PLAY ON SUNNY DAYS" about physics of direct sunlight adding weight.

[@rsmith02]

Thicker strings add weight

[@adrianlin107]

Hi, enjoyed as always. You've got your hypothesis and you tested it. That's nothing more than scientific. An answer is an answer, no matter if it fits your expectation. Keep going!! Oh, just wondering is there any downside of putting one or more overgrips? Thanks for your videos!

[@vexlyz5280]

You may lose feel over the grip as it is getting larger. If you prefer, you should take the old one off and apply a new one.

[@niceguy5430]

also tell us how much weight is increased on applying dampner on strings

[@georgebozinovski9401]

2 grams

[@javierfernandezskaf486]

My Yonex dampener weights 4 gr.

[@hansolsson3409]

The racket becomes a little more head light?

[@ivanscardaoni3025]

Hey, nice video as always, love your content! I have a question, i’ve been told my racket has to be the heaviest one i can handle (meaning i’m not tired in the first 30 minutes and i have no difficulty in the swing) what am i loosing if i’m, let’s say, 15 grams under my limit, is it a huge difference if i add those 15 grams? And if i add them, where should i? I’m using an ezone 100 300grams 2020! Thank you in advance!!

[@miguelbarahona6636]

15 grams is a lot!. To keep balance put 5 grams on the handle, 5 grams at 3 and 5 grams at 9. That will make your racket more stable. But be careful, as I told before 10 grams in the head is a lot. Don't swing at full speed (specially on the serve), till you get used to the new weight.

[@TennisOnAction]

Currently my tennis elbow pain messed me up with heavier RF 97 in first 30 minutes already. 🙃

[@Lunchpgap]

try adding 15g to your racket. get some #16 rubber bands and tie them to your racket. it should take about 20 bands for 15g. as Harry says, as rackets get heavier, weight is added towards the grip and not the head. it's hard to tell what you may gain from more weight because there are variables like where you prefer to add the weight or maybe your preferred balance is not preferred at a heavier weight. anecdotal, but i recently moved up about 30g to a heavier racket and i felt more power and stability in my serve. less pain in my serves because i was swinging too hard with the lighter racket. much more stability and comfort in my groundstrokes. i'm barely 3.0 so i'm no expert. also, i'm sure there is a max and min threshhold for everyone. i went from 10 oz to 11 oz so i'm in the middle.

[@ivanscardaoni3025]

Thank you all! I will add it progressively keeping the balance in my racket 👍🏽

[@miguelbarahona6636]

@@Lunchpgap Instead of the rubber bands, as I don´t like lead (because they say it´s toxic), I cut, from an old bicycle tube, 30cm x 1cm pieces, that weights about 5 grams each, and I wrap on my racket at 3 and 9. Cheap and safe way to customize your racket. As I use 2 overgrips, I don´t have to add weight on the grip.

[@johanmelander4521]

If I would change the pallet, or handle, on my racket to one a size smaller - does that change the balance of my racket?

[@a2casius]

Congress should vote to kick Harry off the Swingweight Committee :))

[@robertspiegel3628]

How do the grip sizes in the same model racket affect the weight? Do you think a 4 -1/2" grip makes the racket appreciably heavier then a 4-1/4" grip. The official manufacturer's specs to not quote weight by grip size. ROB

[@chuckfriebe843]

Than*

[@Jvperilo]

You should try another and show us. Thanks have a great time.

[@gk-qf9hv]

So, in order to balance it out, i should put 6g to the head. But where? On the 3 and 9? or on the 12? Thanks

[@rsmith02]

The answer requires you to do math...

[@charlesasch]

Since swing weight didn’t change with the standard overgrip, can you do an experiment if you add 1) 2 over grips. 2) lead in the grip (how and where do you do this?) 3) a leather grip

[@juju-rt8ek]

All that will definitely make the racquet feel heavier.

[@charlesasch]

@@juju-rt8ek It’s interesting, because I have heard of people adding weight in the handle to INCREASE maneuverability, as the racket therefore becomes more head-light. Of course the overall weight increases as well, so it’s an interesting customization. I personally find that adding a medium-heavy white overgrip of about 6 grams increases the ability to move the racket through the air and balance, even though the racket is heavier. So adding weight at the handle may chance the balance point to more head-light, while keeping the same swing weight.

[@juju-rt8ek]

@@charlesasch I find that to be true. I think Harry said that too.

[@PeterDMayr]

Most people add an anti-vibration device. That's 2 grams up the racket head, cancelling some of the overgrip weight. Not much, but ...

[@movdqa]

I use Wilson Pro - they include the tape - shouldn't have to bring your own tape to the courts; or scissors.

[@chrispaul1117]

Hello. I pre stretch my over grips before putting on. Good idea? Bad idea?

[@feistybastard]

Oh no. You better consult with a pro before ever doing that.

[@fungi4591]

Is 3 overgrips too much? If you don't care about weight

[@coachhannah2403]

It's OK, I also add head tape to counterbalance!

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

I use a 4 5/8 grip but now I'm restricted as there are not many racquets with that size grip and I do not want 3 over grips.😊 I looked at the new Yonex Vcore 2021 and the biggest grip size if I remember correctly is 4 3/8 or 4 1/2 Why no 4 5/8? Thanks

[@chuckfriebe843]

It's a trend started by the theory that a smaller group enables you to impart more spin. I.e. Rafa Nadal uses a very small grip and people started buying racquets with smaller grips because they believe that it helps them hit the ball like him. A lot of pro players use smaller grips. Does it assist the average club player? Jury's still out on that one. Maybe it helps 4.5 and above where they swing the racquet faster, but doubtful with players under that skill level.

[@BorisBecker1872]

When Harry said “you guys like starting at 2 o’clock” what did he mean? That the general consensus is to start the grip at Bevel 3? I start at 11 o’clock. In the end, does it really matter?

[@rishijai]

I always start at a corner bevel

[@chuckfriebe843]

It doesn't matter at all. Just personal preference in the end. Literally

[@myviews469]

You forgot to talk about the size how much does it adds to the original size??

[@MariusTurcuPhotography]

I first customized my blade adding leather grip plus overgrip to be 332g and 33cm balance strung having 329 SW. Today I addded also silicon and goes to 345g and 32cm balance strung. SW did not chance as expected. But my game is better

[@chuckfriebe843]

It only makes the racquet more headlight, but doesn't change the SW.

[@kaushik7777]

If we play a pronstaff 97 V 13 racket 315 gms without using a overgrip dosen't its original grip wear off??

[@Eliath1984]

what he's basically trying to get at is replace the grip.. which they do sell replacement grips to be used instead of overgrips.. price is about the same.. I've honestly just always used Overgrips because I like heavier rackets anyways and also my hand is between 4 3/8th and 4 1/2s.. so the added size makes it fit perfectly in my hand so that I can actually properly grip the racket.. 4 1/2 is too big.. 4 3/8 is SLIGHTLY too small... 4 3/8 with an overgrip=perfection

[@johnsonchen7127]

I try it very good, just right extra bum on the grip tip.

[@adrianconley5811]

Almost if not completely irrelevant. With or without after 30 minutes of playing weight will change do to absorption of perspiration. Most players 4.5 or under will not be affected above that level players usually play with a heavier racket. Just minuta.

[@TennisOnAction]

Especially leather grip i noticed feel heavier then soft original with an over grip.

[@zacharywan2004]

Normally leather grip adds 8-12 grams to the racket

[@johnyang1420]

I dont like overgrips. I just replace my Babolat Syntec Pro replacement grip on my Pure Drive Roddick Plus. It is more consistent. Overgrips wear unevenly.

[@quinby123]

I don't wrap mine way up high like you do cause I have a 1hb. I doubt if I would add 6grams.

[@tennis-fan]

the black tape was the heaviest :-D

[@Emolga6274]

If u have a racket wit a big head size , u will need a thicker handle or u won’t be able to control it

[@lesslobiso4159]

What is that dark red/maroon racquet with Federer's face on it? At the bottom @08:13

[@Moist.croissant]

Wilson triad 5

[@jebronlames9061]

Feel of a racquet>weight of a racquet

[@albertozabeo77]

Measured SW never change if u add weight to the handle. But in reality u never swing ur racquet like the prince does for SW calculating.. on the court the racquet becomes more difficult to move. SW Is a theoretical units of measeure

[@chuckfriebe843]

There is also inertia created by the speed of your swing, as you said, on the court.

[@extraryes]

That explains why i feel my racket becomes a bit lighter on the head when I added 3 overgrips

[@Eliath1984]

you gotta add 7 to really understand

[@extraryes]

My racket for some reason had a thin handle and it feels weird using it with one overgrip. And I can feel so much vibration going on so i added more and now im comfortable using it

[@Eliath1984]

@@extraryes I've done 2 at a time before for the comfort level so I can understand.

[@saameerasheed4888]

Balance swing weight what does this all mean??

[@chuckfriebe843]

Swing weight is two things 1) the way the racquet feels when you "swing" it and 2) the inertia that is exerted upon the ball when actual contact is made with the ball. What also affects this inertia is how fast you swing as well. So the swing weight provides resistance to the inertia of the moving tennis ball. You may hear the players at a Tennis Warehouse review refer to the "plow through". This is to what they are referring.

[@morningmanna671]

Was wondering does the way you put on grip change for left handed players?

[@miguelbarahona6636]

The same. (I'm a lefty).

[@Ahelow]

If rafa does it normal, so do I (also lefty lol)

[@miguelbarahona6636]

@@Ahelow Actually Rafa is right handed, as he said.

[@Ahelow]

@@miguelbarahona6636 obviously plays with his left tho

[@BIGLOVE4TRUTH]

I am a lefty and I usually roll my new grip on the opposite way. But I don’t think it makes much difference.

[@zacharywan2004]

I normally apply the grip on reverse😝 so the stick on part goes on top.

[@miguelbarahona6636]

No problem at all. That works too!

[@cd8145]

Me too, so much more convenient

[@jerome_morrow]

I do this as well. No need to mess with scissors. Also, starting with the broad end at the buttcap increases the buttend flare slightly, which I like. YMMV.

[@JackdawLifts]

@@jerome_morrow the buttend flare?

[@rsmith02]

@@JackdawLifts There was another video on this channel about how to do that.

[@RustyRaceHorse]

Love you channel, but why do you always put your overgrip on upside down. Try it the other way.

[@morningmanna671]

Thanks to watching your videos I do carry scissors in my tennis bag.😁

[@mylesgalos6465]

SAK cadet in 10s bag

[@MrMSS22]

I find it Hard to believe that for some people it isn’t supposed to be obvious what you were telling in the video. Why would you believe that adding mass away from the balance point wouldn’t alter it and increase total mass?

[@chuckfriebe843]

He was surprised by unchanged swing weight, not by the change in total mass.

[@rsmith02]

@@chuckfriebe843 I'm surprised he's surprised, though.

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@rsmith02 consider the source. 😂

[@1iquid5nake]

Just one overgrip is enough for me.

[@redbullwiseman4805]

U shouldn’t be suprised about the swing weight Your over thinking it sir 🤪

[@lucidlagomorph5809]

Hey just wondering how far did you get in your tennis career? Where you a pro? - Also did you win any major titles?

[@rsmith02]

He's a professional racquet seller.

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

I carry a scissors. 😊

[@mkong88]

Lol instead of finishing tape, try lead tape

[@dailyoptions7832]

Both federer and djokovic like white overgrip lol

[@juju-rt8ek]

I was surprised you thought it would change sw. Add another one. Probably won't change

[@a2casius]

Nothing surprises me here anymore .... Congress should vote to kick Harry off the Swingweight Committee.

[@juju-rt8ek]

@@a2casius lol, easy fella. It's a good experience going into Harry's shop. Very friendly guy. Good bedside manner. I added a shrink down, replacement grip, and over grip to increase grip size from a 2 to a 4. It did change the balance, but I didn't feel much difference in the swing weight. I also only added the shrink halfway.

[@a2casius]

@@juju-rt8ek All Harry had to do was to go on the internet for 5 mins, do some research and learn. Instead he does a video and people have to laugh at his ignorance. I'm not doubting he's a nice guy and a good retailer but we have seen far too many videos from him which are naive and misinformed. I also know nice retailers but they know better than to publicise their very limited knowledge. Not good PR.

[@juju-rt8ek]

@@a2casius could be true. It is from your prospective for sure. I don't the show that seriously. He had his shop near where I lived, so I enjoy it for various reasons. Since I live in Thailand now, the pro's that teach here are a welcome change.

[@ispeakasiplease]

A 4 3/8 plus one layer of overgrip is perfect for my hand.

[@Eliath1984]

same plus I honestly like the feel of the additional weight.. plus additional give when I squeeze.. standard grips(non overgrips) feel like they slip alot in my hand..

[@alexdavis3428]

Maybe you need to calibrate your swing weight machine 😝

[@mfmukhtar786]

Adding grips, or even overgrips doesn't add anything to the swingweight because you are essentially adding the same mass to both sides of the pivot point. This guy literally did a video a while back where he switched out the normal grip with a leather grip (leather grips are on average 10 g heavier) and found no swingweight change. He was surprised back then too. I'm surprised he forgot haha

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@mfmukhtar786 I'm not surprised he forgot. He's thick🤣🤣🤣

[@DanTuber]

6 grams is nothing

[@cybernetennis]

I still don't get the balance; how many points head heavy or light and do the racket weight in ounces please!!!!!! this is a USA podcast hehe

[@jerome_morrow]

Haha, I get what you mean. But even US based pro-racquet customisation specialists now use grams and mm’s because they regard oz’s and inches as being unwieldy for the fine level matching they do.

[@miguelbarahona6636]

As long as I know, this is an international podcast.

[@jerome_morrow]

End of the day, it’s up to Harry how he wants to present his stuff in the videos. I prefer traditional units, but learned over time to be equally comfortable with metric. It’s just arithmetic and hardly difficult.

[@bengray5013]

His machine works in grams and mm’s

[@miguelbarahona6636]

I think it´s easier for racket customization, to work with grams. Adding 5 grams is the same as adding 0,176 oz of lead, but I prefer measuring 5 grams. Metric system is very easy and logic.

[@paulgowler5181]

So basically it makes almost no difference. At the rec level I bet not a single player could feel that difference, especially since the swing weight is identical. I bet even pro baseline players would find it difficult to tell thr difference. Probably only feel players who volley and dropshot a lot could tell the difference. If you make a video like this, you need to be results-oriented. It doesnt matter how much the numbers change unless it has a noticeable effect on the court. Otherwise this is a bit of a pointless video. If you want to know how to do a test, go watch some Essential Tennis videos. For example, the video that Ian did on comparing different types of balls, he didn't just say, oh this one is extra duty so A will happen, this one has a cheap, thin latex so B will happen. He got two players in to blind test them and give live feedback about how the balls felt off the racket, how lively they were off the court, how easy kr difficult it was to generate pace or spin, what the impact was on the wrist, elbow and shoulder. I just think the video was a bit of a waste of time because we didnt learn anything of value. If tour goal is just to get views and thus get paid, fine, but if your goal is to inform and educate you audience I really think you need to focus more on the end result, ideally with a blind test

[@santinojessieavilapreslie9851]

I think your over trying to compensate. I think your just to fussy Dude.Dont try reinventing the Wheel.Just try finding a Racket that feels right for you without adding to much Bullshit.

[@GershonBenYitzhak]

Everyone uses overgrips except you...

[@brianyoung2349]

0:23 vor.in.net

[@Jkan2001]

Duh video